The Daily Zeitgeist - Balloon Terror, Pence WISHES He Had Classified Docs 02.06.23
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hello the internet and welcome to season 274 episode one of der dailies i dice
a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
And it's Monday, February 6th, 2023.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I am also known as Potatoes O'Brien.
And I'm thrilled to be joined today by a very special guest co-host who is always joining us in a way.
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this very podcast it is super producer justin connor yo yo yo what up it's your boy justin
connor aka hypebeast harry aka childless millennial man i'm here i'm coming out i'm stepping from behind the scenes and uh
jumping into this tdz uh pool let's go guys how are you there we go what's up man this is
it's it's long overdue it's long overdue yeah i have a lot to say god i feel like you're just
shaking shaking some some things off oh yeah sounds so free yeah yeah yeah uh you're gonna see a new
me today um usually you know you've got some shit to get off your chest bro you don't even know the
half of it let's go let's get into it well you are here for a banger of a guest because in our
third seat we have one of our favorites a hilarious stand-up comedian actor writer who's written issues of
batman for a little outfit called dc comics and dropped a new stand-up special called bury me
loose a year ago please welcome back to the show the brilliant the talented yadoye travis
what's happening i'm back it's me yadoya. I didn't prepare a bunch of nicknames.
I wish you had said something up front before we got to this point, and now I'm embarrassed.
Bro, I almost embarrassed myself.
That was off the top of the dome.
I stumbled a little bit, but we got there.
Yeah, I do feel like that's a lofty endeavor to take on off the cuff, you know?
Yeah.
That's a big risk you took.
I respect that.
Hey, man, I'm here to i'm here to
take risks that's what i do yeah sorry my voice cracked when i was shouting your name i apologize
that's okay i have that undignified yeah i just get i get nervous you know it's okay that's okay
by the way i'm coming to you live from my batman chair you probably can't see it because it's dark
as hell but i got the batman death got batman lighting going on oh yeah
yeah i got the little you know i got the the screenshot from into the spider verse behind me
yeah we're all black nerded out over here yeah you got a bisexual lighting situation going oh yeah
very purple right now definitely going yeah yeah if batman was in high school all right yeah
i'd love to see it are you pitching something
oh it's already pitched oh the ball's in your court oh shit all right let's talk after the
after the recording let's go are you is the dc stuff ongoing are you still still writing batman
stuff or what and what was that like you know yeah it's ongoing i just uh i just finished my
second one end of last year you know it's one of those things it's cool it's ongoing i just uh i just finished my second one end of last year you
know it's one of those things it's cool it's a badge they're out there it's it's a very it's a
very exciting thing but you know it uh it also doesn't pay the rent so i'm like you know it's
fun it's cool but i'll do another one when i do it let me i might be putting you in the hot seat
here but what comic books did you really gravitate towards when you first were
coming up in the game?
I was a manga kid growing up.
So I was reading like Naruto and one piece and all this stuff.
I actually grew up on like comic book cartoons more than anything.
I was like watching the,
and the Spider-Man animated series,
Batman animated series,
uh, X-Men. That's like what really got me into it. And so like, yeah, like watching the and the spider-man animated series batman animated series uh x-men that's
like what really got me into it and so like yeah it was a little weirder that they asked me to do
this up front because i was like oh i read them but i don't like i'm not a huge nerd like that
well how did they find you because i was doing anime videos on youtube got you got you oh wow that's really cool
yeah i i also came up similar the the x-men cartoon the uh mask of the phantasm batman film
i probably wore that copy out yeah a lot of that i wasn't super into the comics um that was more
my sister's bag but yeah now that i see they're coming back with the james gunn slate of the that
brave and the bold title in there that really got me excited because, you know, the for, you know, the comic book nerds out there, you guys are familiar that Brave and the Bold title coming from the Silver Age and Golden Age of comics is really he with you know the popcorn flicks and and marvel and you
know i i kind of i kind of enjoy that but i want to get back to the roots of like you know not just
the entertainment factor but the philosophy of comics yeah yeah i mean bro i just i feel like
like a lot of people i'm living the life that i wanted to live as a teenager right now you know
while we're still semi in a pandemic and i'm just i torrented a bunch like the entire x-men batman
catalog just all of these things i wanted to read my whole life torrented very legally obviously
you know yeah you know for the law purposes above all yeah i'm just like finally getting to
to like a baseline level of knowledge that i wish i had my whole life that i felt like i didn't have
access to right you know i feel like there's a bunch of nerds that grew up that like didn't
have access to the shit that they liked yeah i was i was just gonna say there's so many people
it's it's hard to keep up now especially as a nerd now i mean it's the you go online there's
so many takes i i can't keep up people are bringing up you know, oh, I've been a fan of this guy for 30 years.
I'm like, I never heard of this dude in my life.
The research is intense nowadays, for sure.
Yeah.
You know what's one of the craziest imbalances of power is going out as someone who's now written Batman.
And my view on Batman is that, dude is a fascist.
He's a whole fascist.
He's a cop.
Yeah, I was going to ask that. I think's a whole fascist he's a cop i think that's
very obvious right and it's and it's hard to write for for him and sort of think about the
themes of it rather than like diving into this brooding character and like romanticizing him
and then like going out and tweeting stuff like that and getting responses from people that i
know have read more of the comics than me but they still think like no he's not a he's not a cop what are you talking about
no he doesn't and so i can't like argue with them right but even though i know the real world
politics more than they do right but they know that they know the fake world politics more it's
so like it's such a bizarre batman asks the question what if there was a cop
that was competent didn't fuck up every single time that he tried to do his job i mean he fucks
up he fucks up a lot yeah i guess a lot yeah recidivism rate of batman is through the roof
yeah it's ridiculous.
Yeah.
Everybody's just right back.
He also kidnaps children and puts them in harm's way like all the time.
So, you know.
Yeah.
That's not super fun either.
That's a good point. Yeah.
There's a deep, deep, deep commentary about Batman that is not even getting touched on.
Yeah.
Right.
What if there was a cop who was like all the other cops except he dressed as a bat? That's the question that Batman. Yeah. right. classified documents. Like, no, I guess there were no classified documents in Biden's beach house, but they're looking for classified documents in Pence's house. And like, I just, I've come to the
realization I don't give a shit and have never given a shit about this story at all. I think
the mainstream media has kind of misjudged this one. So we'll, we'll, we'll talk about that.
We'll talk about jobs are booming. You guys wages are not. So we will talk about that. We'll talk about jobs are booming, you guys. Wages are not.
So we will talk about that.
We will talk about the balloon that was traveling over the western United States for much of the end of last week.
I've got so many questions about this.
It's very strange.
The video is fun and creepy.
Jordan Peele at it again.
It does look like a Jordan Peele footage.
It's a viral marketing for the next Jordan Peele movie.
So we'll talk about all of that.
Plenty more.
But first, Yedoye, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Oh, I got two things from my search history.
I was just double checking because I saw somebody post they were reading a gloria stein book and i had to double check that she really worked with the cia
because i uh i read that recently so i googled gloria stein steinem cia and then i also for some
reason googled uh uh which is the aztec sun god that they would sacrifice people to i was uh doing research for a tweet oh wow
glorious dynamite for the cia yeah when it was a whole thing i think she it was in the i think
60s and 70s and she was like weirdly proud of it wow she go to princeton no she went to smith
huh yeah yeah but all the all those people did like I think there's a lot of speculation that like Woodward and Bernstein were working for the CIA frequently.
Like all the all the celebrities from the 60s and 70s that were supposed to be smart.
I feel like a lot of them were working for the CIA.
Yeah. I mean, I may I read a whole Twitter thread about how Dave Chappelle's mom may have been complicit in Patrice Lumumba's assassination.
So I feel like it's so it's so much more widespread than we yeah at this point like
what celebrity isn't a cop or affiliated with cops like yeah it's fucking every single day
we come up with something new i don't know man it runs deep it runs chris pratt i think i think
oh chris pratt 100 oh yeah the jury's yeah jury been decided on that. Oh, you don't think he's cool?
Actually, you know what?
I feel like if Chris Pratt was CIA, he would be way more open about it.
Right.
Yeah.
He'd be bragging to everyone.
Yeah, that's right.
He'd be the new Jack Reacher.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chris Pratt is a cop and Jim from the office is CIA.
I think.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Feels like it. what'd you find out
about the sun god uh what was the what was the tweet you were writing oh i was just confirming
the spelling really i i guess i had read i'd i'd listened to a whole podcast about uh the fall of
the aztec empire it was it was a whole thing now i was tweeting about how the u.s practices human sacrifice but they just
do it way over a way longer period of time you know just like could you just cut my heart out
with a obsidian blade i would really rather do that just throw my yes yeah just throw my body
down a pyramid while the while the blood flows down like a normal person you fucking weirdo
dignified yeah yeah just like at least
if you're gonna do this like let me look cool yeah yeah that's how i feel have mel gibson do it
right yeah let's go let's go apocalypto on this yeah fuck yeah i love that idea i think that was
a kukulkan in that one right yeah yeah Yeah. He's in Minds. Yeah. Oh, I thought you were talking about Wakanda Forever.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
I think both.
Yeah.
I mean, yes.
Yes.
He was in both.
Yeah.
And the sacrifices didn't work, it seems like, for like they didn't get the desired result.
You know what?
I would say probably not.
I would say probably not, given the results.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
What is something you think is overrated? I would say probably not, given the results.
What is something you think is overrated?
I mean, you know, I'm on the internet a lot.
I feel like people are very aware of the state of the world right now.
And I would say what's overrated right now is all that Doomer shit.
Y'all keep pushing all this Doomer shit like there's no way out of this situation that we're in.
But there absolutely is.
You know what I'm saying?
We can do stuff.
We can still save the world if we if we put our minds to it yeah it's a silly way to say that but you know it's a it's a soundbite it's not a comprehensive plan as someone who who can fall
into that doomer spiral sometimes i'm very anxious about the where the world is going how do you keep
yourself in check like how do you make sure that you know you carry that positive attitude like oh no no we can figure this out we can find a way through this
i mean first of all i put the mark fisher down every i feel like people are reading
mark fisher too much that capitalist realism shit and i just like i mean i got i got homies i
work with talk to every day just about like actionable things that we can actually do at our level you know i'm saying
and that if we if we actually put mind and practice to all these things that they can
expand out and set examples for for shape that can spread out across the world you know
got global implications yeah for sure the the good news doesn't get a lot of uh light shined on it
and i mean there's so many different things like the the example my sister likes to bring get a lot of light shined on it. And I mean, there's so many different things like the
example my sister likes to bring up a lot is like, I don't know, she did some project on like acid
rain and stuff. And now that was a I mean, that was a big deal. I don't think I've heard that
term even once in the last like 10 years or so. But, you know, the climate like, you know, making
statues porous and stuff and melting the foundation of shit down. That was a real,
real, real big problem and uh we
we reversed that layer yeah the ozone layer the whole one of the holes has been completely closed
i think there's still two left but yeah it's there's a lot of positive things that have
happened but we just it's i think you know with the whole if it bleeds it leads thing you kind of
you have a hard time some especially me i have a hard time even believing in the good stuff like
even when i read a headline like oh that's good news it kind of just fades into the background so quickly because
the urgency i think is on the the extremely like violent stuff yeah yeah well there's the urgency
and there's people thinking on this massive scale that's incomprehensible to them you know
it's like yeah people think about things in terms of like what the president can do, what the even what local government can do.
Like you still don't have you still don't have control over local government like that.
You know, you can organize people around you.
Like I got a bunch of neighbors that I still don't know that I could just go knock on a bunch of doors, organize us on that level and just like, you know, grow out from there.
Also, people talk about acid rain.
People don't talk about how much fun acid is. It's a good time.
You know what I'm saying?
You can think about it in those terms.
Oh man, if that's
what acid rain was, the world
would be a much better place.
It would be so sick. A friend of mine actually
was talking about how the Western imagination
is obsessed with
the big solution
always. The example he was using was like the trojan horse
was like they everybody was fighting and dying in this war and then they came up with this like one
big idea that like solved everything the trojan horse that like tricked the people and it was
like this one big and like that's rarely how history moves like usually the way history moves
is like you try a bunch of different things and like slowly like and fuck up a bunch and it's not
like push all your chips in on one solution that you are like reasonably sure of because a lot of
this shit we're reasonably sure of ends up being wrong in the long term yeah and people have this like idea that
history necessarily or progress necessarily moves forward you know what i'm saying right and uh
if you think about that in terms of the entire scope of human history and how we're just kind
of a blip in all of humanity even let alone like the history of the universe it just promotes this
like inertia because you think you think
everything necessarily gets better so i don't have to do anything right now true or i can't do
anything it's it promotes this like like this predetermination yeah that you can't bring like
a lack of imagination yeah yeah i feel like it's always that that fucked up my imagination when i
like can't when i got this idea in my head that it was like all just like on this set
course of like slow progress,
everything's getting better.
Science has it covered.
Science is going to figure it all out.
And the world just became like much less interesting to me.
And then when I got older and out of like the public school and,
you know,
even college,
that's when I realized,
Oh,
it's like,
it's a mess out there and
it's very like mysterious and interesting just gonna say like i think it the part of the problem
lies in the way you know we're taught history in the u.s like in our public schools we i think
america has a problem with idol worship and and we pick out these figures in history and like they
portray them to you in history class like these are icons like they're bigger they're much bigger than you they're larger than life and i kind of got the
point i'm like oh a jfk will come along to save us at some point or something and that's not gonna
happen um and i i think jfk will come along and save us while declaring war on us right different
people overseas and sexually assaulting all of his employees like they really
they really whitewash a lot of the stuff but and but as a kid i'm like oh it's taken care of and
i think there's a there's some sort of if i can give them as much benefit of the doubt as i can
possibly give there's some sort of benevolence in that of like i'm trying to paint this world
for my kids where they don't have to worry. Like I'm teaching them about this, this dangerous, dramatic, like war where many people died,
but you know, there are good people and that's ultimately what wins over.
And, you know, that's not necessarily the case.
And I think that's dangerous rhetoric when you start making it, you know, to the point
of like, you know, perfect example, MLK, u.s government told him to kill himself and then
we hold him up as a icon at the same time after his death it's so two-faced yeah spokesperson for
many great brands in the united states you know peers and lots of lots of commercials yeah yeah
might have been the first place i saw him yeah when. When I was a kid. Funny shit, man.
What is something you think is underrated?
You know what?
I was going to say imagination and the indomitable human spirit.
But I also think it's learning.
Learning is good.
I feel like I rediscovered, it sounds so stupid, but rediscovered just the power of learning shit as an adult. I feel like we, to the point of imagination, we just kind of like give adults the impression
that they're too old to learn new shit.
You know, I'm 31 years old.
I'm not that old.
I've like, I've been convinced that I couldn't learn new stuff since I was like 12 or 13
years old.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
It's like to be like, I'm too old to it's like to be like i'm too old to learn
how to play music i'm too learned too old to learn how to learn like math or science all these things
just like i don't know man we got to reframe our whole idea of education in this country man you
can do a lot of this shit on your own youtube is a youtube is free youtube is free there's a lot of
shit on there libraries are cool i don't know man i thought
this was gonna be funnier but it's not it's just a serious point it's just a real serious point
it's making such good points learning is fun dog like the t-rex like the t-rex with sunglasses
said on the uh poster in my fourth grade classroom learning is fun wasn't that one of the ones yeah
yeah yeah i mean i i mean i've had this before, even like in my final couple years of high school, like junior, senior year, I started thinking I was like, you know, as when Wikipedia was, you know, like everyone was doing their research assignments based off of Wikipedia entries. twenty thousand dollars a year for is already available for free you just have to know how to form a curriculum and guide yourself through it and that's that's the part that's hard to do
but it's not impossible and it's figuring out how to like make it stick in your brain but it's all
out there it's all available for you to just look up and and have it change your life yeah i mean
it's it's like you gotta reframe education to be like how do i meet my own needs and how do i
my own needs including the shit that i'm just curious about you know how do i learn for myself
instead of learning how to prop up this like whether it's like a nation state or some other
institution you know like just learn for yourself instead of learn what people need you to learn
after making you say the pledge of allegiance and whatnot you know
oh yeah there's i feel like there's a general belief that life like peaks when you're young
in in the u.s especially because that is when we're most valuable to corporations as consumers
that's why like 18 to 34 is the target demographic and it's like so that that's the part
that gets like glorified and that's the part that gets shown to us but it's as someone who is an
incredibly slow learner like that you you just get you can get if you're willing to like go through
uncomfortable shit you can just get better yeah and like just peel back layers of the onion that is your you know all the shit like i was i
was so full of shit for most of like most of my adult life like so full of shit and had no idea
you know yeah here i mean it's it's i think people also have a big problem with looking foolish or whatever that means to them or, you know, or failing, like attempting something and not looking cool while doing it or like looking like you don't know something while you're doing it, I think, is a big fear for a lot of people.
It's it's not healthy. You need to get over that shit. No one cares about that as much as you do. it's holding you back go out there and live your life yeah yeah and you know maybe maybe the death of twitter you know in the coming week
will uh will change a lot of people's attitude about that you know so is that they're just
gonna start charging for like the baseline like just to use the shit yeah there's gonna be a
there's gonna be a basic tier i guess they announced yesterday good because i've been
wondering when the collapse was gonna happen it's been talked about for so long and it's this and
i feel like miles waiting on this baby like i'm like when is twitter gonna fucking collapse right
when will i be free when will i finally be able to let go of this stupid ass platform okay all
right y'all hit me with the discord invite that's where i'm i'm coming to hang out with zeitgang and the discord that's yeah yeah same here i i'm i i'll join the discord i swore i wouldn't i think on air once
but i'm coming there now let's do this all right well what's your what's your twitter so they know
oh i'm not on twitter you're not on twitter no where do they hit you up? Instagram. You can find me at jconthesmith, J-C-O-N-T-H-E-S-M-I-T-H.
I haven't decided that that's a Raekwon the Chef reference yet.
I like it.
All right.
We'll hold each other accountable.
Both Justin and I will be in the Discord in the coming days.
So hit us up.
All right.
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And we're back. And the media, like, I'm mostly observing this through headlines that I just like see shuffling across the New York Times, Drudge Report, CNN. There's always like
an update on like, no classified documents biden's beach house last week and now
they're looking for classified documents and pences and i haven't given a shit about this story
like from the start and at first i was like and that's because i'm anti-trump and like you know
i was like critical of myself for not giving a shit about it. But it's just like, I don't know.
I couldn't be less concerned that Joe Biden is like hoarding documents to sell them to other countries.
Like because he's like trying to make money off of being the president.
Like that's what we were interested in from Trump.
And that does sound like some shit Trump would do.
Joe Biden is not that cool. Like he's
not doing that shit. He's not that interesting. He he is doing this by accident. It doesn't matter.
It's just a talking point for Fox News to be like, well, what about this? But I feel like the
mainstream media just I don't know, they they like have this logic puzzle in their brain where they're like, well, if
president also has documents he's not supposed to, then other president who did it gets away free.
And it's just, I don't know. It's nonsense. I think it's kind of like an inertia machine too.
Once you have a headline that whoever's running the website or producing the show,
and they're seeing like, oh, ratings go up when we mentioned this thing. We didn't expect the
documents situation to go where it went with Trump. We expected it to be like a one day story.
Then it's like, oh, hey, here's some more. Oh, hey, here. Whoa, this is looking nefarious. This
is looking weird. You know, and they're like, oh, shit, President Biden. Oh, shit. And it just
becomes more of like a like oh well this story got mentioned
and it gets headlined so now here's another thing we'll just bridge these two things together
and here you go here's another story for tomorrow it's so lazy yeah i just don't understand what
the president can do with classified documents at home that he wouldn't just do at the office
like he's not naruto yeah i'm picturing him just reading ninja scrolls and
doing the same jutsu for 500 episodes but beyond that i don't know i don't understand what what the
concern is and how much of this is just old men having poor record keeping like i just i don't
where's what's the story here i just don't give a fuck the trump one is intriguing that's different
they is vaguely because they were like, hey, you have these documents.
He's like, I do.
They're like, give them back.
And he was like, fuck you.
And then he was like, it's like, I don't I don't have those documents.
And then they were like, hey, man, we're here.
Like, look, the documents are right there.
You were holding them.
That that was weird.
And he's the type of person he does have like
nefarious relations with yes like the saudis and all all sorts of wild shit so like it's just it's
a it's another one of these things where you're like trying to pretend that trump is like other
presidents yeah and it's just like that's yeah that's not that's never gonna be the case i mean bro i i got a framed magazine cover i
stole from the vice offices in 2018 is that bad you know am i should i give that back i don't
understand like what's the problem they canceled the show yeah so now the way these searches are
being conducted is like they're confirming what the person the person's like okay come on in i think pence might actually plant documents so that people think he's more
interesting because like he's so whack like the the idea that they're searching and pence is just
like so sad yeah there's no way this motherfucker's up to anything or is like not so careful that
he would actually do it but like i feel like to like get the pop and to get the headline
i think pence might like plant some documents he's like hey man these are from j store what is this
these are like research papers these are available yeah all right on the subject of kind of relearning stuff scientists believe
they've just discovered the secret to rome's self-healing concrete which i didn't really
know that's what was going on with rome's concrete i did know that there was like a recipe that
rome had figured out and that we like that just got lost and that yeah like oh man we should have
should have hung on to that one but yeah it's always interesting to me to be reminded that
like we forget shit all the time like we lose books to history we lose important secrets recipes
yeah it's something with limestone right some like crazy yeah recipe situation yeah it's something with limestone, right? Some like crazy recipe situation.
Yeah, it's like hot lime, it seems to be,
which I think that's also just like a flavor of Tostito. But I think it's something that interacts with it
in a way that creates heat.
And they thought that what they were
seeing was like an error and and they were like there's all these like white chunks throughout
the thing i guess they didn't mix it well enough and right it turns out that was like the signature
that they should have been using to be like oh no they were really on to something and when this shit cracks and that
like all you need to do is get it wet and it reforms right we lost so much cool shit to history
like we don't even know about like wasn't there like a like a birth control plant or something
existed around the time as well that went completely extinct and like something what was that some like flamethrower technology or some shit that they had greece greek fire yeah
greek fire yeah yeah just i mean i'm i constantly wonder like how much cool shit like because this
stuff is equivalent to what we're you know i mean maybe even more technologically advanced than what
we're dealing with today and i think we kind of have a bias of like if it's old
it's not worth it but this is fascinating it's like okay so so we got this cool technology and
i know i see i understand that it's cool and practical and all this stuff but what we could do
is let the mafia infiltrate all the workers unions and uh and we can and we can just build
infrastructure that's that's destined to crumble in like two to five years. And, you know, we just stimulate the economy by having these people.
Exactly.
That's what I think that's really it, though.
I do.
I like even like without the mafia, like you sell more concrete if the shit, you know, like you sell more iPhones if they break after a couple of years, like after the fourth update.
Like with that phone.
after a couple years like after the fourth update like with that phone like i i think and also like i didn't realize so making concrete accounts for seven percent of global emissions and concrete is
the most consumed material on earth second only to water yeah i uh read or watched or something very recently that we could cut down 95 of all production
and consumption and have plenty for everybody everybody in the world right but we don't want
to but we don't want to it's not creating jobs you know it we're not creating jobs and that's
what's most important you gotta create jobs that don't meet anyone's needs and
don't pay very well either you need three or four of them just to live but you know keep busy yeah
they got them busy so that they have to work so that they never stop for a moment and be like
wait a fucking second here we gotta deify the state yeah we have to deify the state that's what it's all about everybody yeah i really do
think it's important like my understanding even even the fact that they've known that there was
this better form of concrete and they just like haven't been able to like figure it out completely
blows up my understanding of like our scientific capabilities which admittedly is driven mostly by movies like
face off and iron man but like you know i just assume you take a little chunk of
the roman concrete and you put it in like a little machine you analyze yeah like a microwave
looking matter analyzer and it's like it is this and this and this and then you're like boom i mean
it's like you said they just thought they didn't mix it well and they never tried to like just do it that way
yeah right it's just like recreate this yeah i don't know man i think that's some military
industrial complex shit because you know all science is for the military and whatnot
like you mentioned iron man every like every couple years i feel like the biggest science
news is they're making a real iron man suit and nobody is like for who yeah not one time is that
have i seen an article that's like for who who is that for yeah they're making real they're making
gundams though they're making real gundams they did everybody, the context they put it in was a construction site. sitting position like leapt to its feet did a backflip like threw this massive like bag of
weight onto this platform over its head leapt onto the platform and it's like we built a gazebo in
20 minutes like that's not what that was for come on you don't need that for the fucking construction
site like that like what is that killing like have it going through a you know obstacle course
with machine guns or something if you
like just be honest about what you're building this shit for right like what and even even when
it comes to this concrete shit i think they're gonna like even if they figure it out like 100
the way you know we're gonna get the watered down version of that it's not gonna heal itself
they're gonna make it so you have to replace it even more you know how they give us the cheap
shit where it doesn't doesn't work right right yeah right they uh they got the police dogs already uh the little black
mirror police dogs out there and i've seen people push those over right you know yeah they're very
vulnerable that's the thing that's what i that's what i was saying about like so i i had a big
thing like earlier like a few weeks back where I was talking about how amazing like somebody figured out something about the second bounce in our in the human gate, like the human, they've tried to make walk on two feet.
And like, they just always seem like they're not good at that.
And so somebody sent me this video of the new Boston Scientific construction killer robot to like just prove it.
But yeah, I feel like when you get them in the field and it's like not you can't program it.
So so like they know where everything is. And, you know, it's like not, you can't program it. So, so the,
like they know where everything is and you know,
it's like the Tesla self-driving car,
unless they've like scanned the course and like cleared it ahead of time,
you know,
but there might be a banana peel and in,
in its path.
Right.
Upends everything.
Think about all,
all of that.
And they,
they figured out how to make the titties bounce in dead or alive in like 2002 but we're still but we're still stuck on walking yeah it shows you
where our priorities are as a nation you know i mean that's right i put the second hitch in my
stuff to avoid creasing my my jordans i think i think yeah that's what i yeah by the way you know
your great jordans and your uh special yes oh hey thank
you those are what kind did you wear uh the blue the greats oh fuck yeah i got a pair of those
yeah a lot of people shit on mids but those are fire yeah no i'm i'm a big fan of those they were
actually uh they were stolen when i was in oakland on tour for real but you know i had a good run
with them yeah there you go never got him creased before
beforehand yeah the problem with those is the suede you know the the color is like the crease
on the you know what we don't have to get into all that yeah but they do turn greenish yeah yes
they do yeah all right and then there's uh and the last week labor department announced a surge
in new jobs biden is taking credit for the job boom,
arguing that it's now crystal clear that his economic package was rock solid.
A rock solid package from Biden. Okay.
That's right. Yeah, he's virile. But it was actually led by bars and restaurants opening
back up after the vacancy sparked by the and it's there's also a vast downward
trend in so like technology finance and manufacturing firms are laying off workers
and then like leisure and hospitality is adding jobs so that that's what we're seeing. But like the quality of jobs is going down,
but there's just like more of them. The quality of life you can live with
between like the tech job and the leisure and hospitality jobs is like the, it's a shame that,
again, this goes back to our point earlier. They, it seems like just there's an active push to just
preserve jobs that will grind you
into dust.
So you have absolutely no time to think you might need to have two, three, four of them
just to make it by.
And I truly do think we brought this up a number of times on on the podcast, but I think
they really do not want to have what happened in 2020 happen again.
And it seems to be in the system incentivizes, you know, this
this immune system you bring up a lot, Jack, of like just there's like a sentient capitalistic
organism that just wants to preserve the jobs and the the things that are going to grind us down to
the point where we just cannot think. Yeah. Make the most money. It doesn't matter if it's make
the most money for the most people. Let's just make the most think. Make the most money. It doesn't matter if it's make the most money for the most people.
It's just make the most money.
So the most money needs to be changing hands.
Like that's what the system is designed to,
you know, drive towards, grow towards,
and then protect once it has it.
Yeah.
I can't, I don't remember who the specific example is,
but I feel like there's been a big spike
in people kind of going mask off with that rhetoric
and explicitly saying this is a time we need to punish the working force and whatnot
and we need to uh limit the power of the the buying power of the working class and all of
these things i mean i feel like they're being a lot more explicit about it because people are
stuck in this mindset that there's no alternative to capitalism even though we have this critique of it which is why i which is why i talk about doomer shit up top yeah i
think people are so stuck in that mindset that this is the way it has to be right and you know
there are obviously barriers to finding our way out but there are barriers to just being in it as
is so you know yeah why not give it a shot?
It already is uncomfortable.
Yeah.
It really is impossible for, like, there's this, I forget who said it, but it's easier to picture the end of the world than it is to picture the end of capitalism.
that it is to picture the end of capitalism because we're like,
capitalism is so thoroughly, you know,
ingrained in not only our society,
but like just in everyone's mindset.
So,
so like it,
it's either like a modern day world,
like where that a movie takes place in,
or it's like the apocalypse.
It's just like,
you know,
everything has fallen apart.
They,
nobody can imagine some alternative where it's just like, no everything has fallen apart they nobody can imagine some
alternative where it's just like no things are things are actually better here yeah i mean i do
know who said this that uh capitalism seems inescapable but so did the divine right of
kings that was ursula le guin you know yeah and that's real as fuck that is you know i i feel like
there is a way out margaret thatcher only said that shit in the 80s. You know, that's not that long ago.
You know?
I don't know, dog.
They said I couldn't write on the Garfield reboot.
And I feel like, what do we need a Garfield reboot for?
There's another way.
Exactly.
There's another way.
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And so you've probably seen the headlines by now you might have even seen the
videos there was a chinese spy balloon that was spotted over montana and i was having a hard time
picturing what that meant like someone saw a balloon in the sky and what what what was so attention grabbing and so i watched the youtube video and
it is fucking eerie it is very strange looking i'm not gonna argue that it doesn't look weird but
my whole thing is like i was like what is the u.s government telling us this for like why is this
story getting so out there now because i mean i feel like we've
had the i mean they've said this has happened before a number of times just this one's a little
different because it's sticking around is more persistent and acting you know strangely or
whatever but i kind of feel like the u.s government is really putting this out there because if they
didn't want us to know about it we wouldn't know about it right now and i feel like you know they're doing this like see look
what the chinese government does trying to surveillance they're all fucked up it feels
like a like an op like an advertisement for like hey we gotta we gotta you know increase our
military funding because the fucking the u.s military they do this to us they've collected
data on us without our knowledge and then they don't tell us about it
but then you know the the chinese government does that and they kind of use that as a mascot
to be like hey guys you know it's bad out there because evil governments are doing this to you
and it's like well you're being a little bit of a hypocrite here right yeah i want i'm like
i'm on tiktok already what am i scared of you know it's a why are they my question is why would they be so
conspicuous about it right now like if that's really what's going on like why would they not
just like they have so many other means to do to do like sinister shit yeah like what is a balloon
gonna do that a satellite couldn't i'm just i'm well justin funny you ask because uh but did you
see did you guys watch the video i did not i watched some of
the video yeah let's just watch this video real quick because the thing that's weird is that it
is just stationary it's just stuck there in the sky and this person who's like taking the video
of it has like a magnified lens but it's it's just a white dot that is just like sitting there in the
sky and also like at that same time montana like had to ground all their airport like their this
this china just take all of its surveillance shit from movies because they got Skynet. They got the they got the note balloon.
Like, what's going on?
Yeah.
You just stop.
Just stop making movies.
Like, what is going on?
It's like so it looks like it's a photograph, right?
Yeah.
It looks like a photograph of like a white dot on a blue background.
Yeah.
It looks like the moon.
Like, if you weren't really paying attention.
Yeah.
Kind of just floating there. We didn't land on the moon the moon landed on us this guy spends the whole video like if you turn the audio on he like spends the whole video being
like this is not the moon i know you're gonna think it's the moon it's not the moon and then
at the end he's like there's the moon oh shit no but i know the moon right there i not the moon. And then at the end, he's like, there's the moon. Oh, shit. Nah, buddy. That's the moon right there.
I know the moon when I see it.
That's no moon.
Sorry, man.
That's Kashyyyk.
But anyways, the big thing that's changed is that the spy tech has gotten so small that you can just like tie it to a balloon and launch that.
And it's just as good as the shit that you can launch in a satellite.
Like it's gotten so
tiny that balloons work.
The thing that a balloon can do,
at least these types of balloons, is
they can just stay stationary
whereas a satellite, you
need multiple passes
from different satellites to get
multiple looks, whereas this one
can just hover.
Does this not show up on radar? Since civilians can see it from the ground it seems like you could
take this shit out with a bb gun i'm not sure why this is more threatening than right something else
yeah no it's it does make you wonder why they are using the same technology that winnie the
pooh used to steal honey yeah but yeah yeah
i feel like if i saw that i would be like hey man i got my phone on me you're good yeah
get somebody else right you just just turn the mic on you could you know you could just call me
right like i know you're i know you're listening we're like if you want to talk if you want to
talk just come just hit me up does this not feel like this story is getting too big for what it actually it just feels like people are like pointing to this as like
some sign of something like some encroaching something and i don't feel fear about this so
i'm wondering if i'm being foolish or if they are yeah i'm not scared of it you know what one of the
a quote that i've been really dwelling on recently is that uh is that
prisons exist so you don't think everywhere else is a prison and i think that's what this is i feel
like i feel like this is like if you see the balloon you'll think there aren't little tiny
balloons everywhere got it yeah yeah exactly it's like being in a panopticon prison and then
a guard comes and looks you in the face like okay i know i'm already being
looked at what are you okay right yeah that's the spy we're not spying on you with your phone yeah
everywhere that you go yeah yeah there's also the usa isn't shooting the balloon down because of
potential falling debris which i don't know if you've ever cared about falling yeah what debris that that's the
that was the part where i was like all right something is going on here that we're not we're
not even talking about a game we're talking about a debris yeah it's like they want it to be a hanging
example of like china's impending like doom over it but it feels but that's such a that's so fucked up i feel
like if there was something that scary like that's happening it probably is happening and they aren't
telling us about it like yeah we're not that stupid it also feels like they're making up an
excuse why they're not shooting it down because like the truth is they just don't want to piss
off china yeah they're just like yeah that guy staring
at me menacingly i'd go tell him to fuck off but i'm worried a fight would ensue and i might push
him over so hard that he'd fall down on somebody yeah i mean they're doing the same thing the you
know the communist party was like okay now that is ours i i will say that but it's not it's a citizen's airship that's all it is
it's like come on y'all everyone's lying and it's like we're in this play and no one's believing
anyone we're all terrible scene actors or scene partners together this is fucking this is
infuriating they're like it blew off course but then it's just like sitting there, like clearly being controlled by something in Montana, just hovering over Bozeman.
Like, how do you blow off course from China?
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
We're just testing the weather.
Isn't there a second one up in Canada right now?
I know this one blew in from Canada, but I thought there was like a second one that the Canadian government was monitoring as well, like in their territory.
Just blew in from Canada and boy, are my flaps tired.
There you go.
That's a balloon.
Some balloon humor.
But I mean, that's the thing that we've been hearing that China and the U.S. are like spying on each other with like mobile phone networks in the Caribbean that surveil U.S. mobile phone subscribers.
2018, America was writing about how they were stepping up surveillance of the South China Sea
because growing fear that China will try and, you know, take full control. So it's just a bunch of,
yeah, it's like an open secret that both countries are spying on each other
so so let me ask you this jack you being super into ufos and all that yeah the the wild orbs
that we were seeing just defy physics and and all that do you think yeah yeah do you think there's a
slight possibility that spy balloons yeah yeah well not necessarily balloons but that's i guess that's
what i'm saying is like that seems like the freakier you know story like the scarier potentially
maybe thing it's like this thing works in a way that we don't know and we have no idea what it is
or where it is or how it works or anything and and this thing is like we know who it is we and
it's floating right here you can look at it right now and it feels like more of like a
kind of like a band-aid for like i know there's a lot of existential fears out there right now so
let's go ahead and float this little balloon boy out there and let you guys worry about that
yeah like a fear you can you can recognize man we do go crazy over balloons don't we that balloon
boy story that was like crazy people went nuts for that no was that when
the kid was like up there like it was moody's point is that yeah he was just like hiding at
his dad's house or something okay yeah but yet none of it really scares me that's the thing is
because like if the technology is as advanced as they say it is the scary version of that is like
the second you get this super advanced
technology they're just going to take everyone out because they have that power like that's
yeah kind of how the like military industrial complex tells us to think about the world
and like so every time i see advanced technology like that i'm like well whoever has this has the
ability to like just fuck us up dramatically embarrassingly like quickly yeah and
they're not so like there it just makes me think that there might be something some more hopeful
version of things than the extremely depressing one that we get from the military industrial
complex which is that we need to spend you know billions and trillions of dollars on weapons or else we're
fucked because whoever has the best weapons is automatically going to just like try and kill you
the the second they have better weapons than you that makes sense like this really this story feels
like it recertifies that for me because i mean if we're talking about like just some wild tic-tac
floating thing that defies everything we know about physics and science and then a balloon that's kind of stuck.
I mean, I feel like I just feel like, you know, the ladder is a thing that, you know, it makes me not scared of the technology that's out there at all in any way, shape or form, because it's if this is the best they can offer then shit i'm i'm good i mean at this point i'm like i'm gonna kill myself like
what do you what am i supposed to be scared of like what do you what do you want me to be you
know i don't care this high fructose corn syrup is gonna take me out you know i'm saying like
right i don't need to be worried about some balloon right something's gonna get me it'll
just i would like statistically it's gonna just be a guy so like what am i worried about a balloon for
you know right i'm a black dude just being outside like what am i worried about china for
right now i'm here yeah yeah also it to your point that like why is this suddenly a major news story
a bunch of balloons were spotted spying on the u.s in 2019 you might remember that is not a
thing that happened in the media like nobody in the media was covering that shit uh that was
because they were launched by the u.s military part of a surveillance test to spy on americans
in order to locate and deter narcotic trafficking and homeland security threats so yeah they're
allowing this to be a story oh yeah and it didn't allow 2019 to be a story so we do everything but
the right thing always it's everything but no let's not let's not fund you know care and whatnot
let's just let's just put balloons in the sky and deter drugs, which are fun.
Deter people from having fun.
They're fun.
Let's take this fun thing, a balloon,
and use it in the least fun,
the most fun deterrent way possible.
Right, that's fucked up too.
They use balloons, which are also fun,
to stop shit that's also fun.
That's fun.
They're more than fun they're they're
whimsical they're almost like there's a majesty about them and they just use it for drone
surveillance like right like come on bro they're gonna have like a skywalking penny farthing nest
that just like comes across the sky shoots lasers at anyone who has a thought that's like
ruled controversial oh shit. Oh, shit.
Damn, bro.
Could be using that shit
for travel.
We could be getting around
in airships and whatnot.
Right.
Bring back the blimp.
That needs to happen.
Yeah.
I think we can all agree
on that shit.
For real, though.
That would bring America together.
Just Zeppelin.
Did you know the Goodyear blimp
is just full of helium?
Is it really?
Yeah.
That's just a helium balloon up
there. We just learned nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I want to do that. Take me up. All right.
Yedoye, truly a pleasure having you as always on the show. It's been a great time, man. Where can
people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I'm at Yedoye on everything i think it's yedoye underscore on twitter i'm also
i mean hopefully gonna be bouncing off social media soon enough with this uh twitter fiasco
but uh i got a podcast called jaded forum that that i would love for people to check out we talk
about a lot of the shit i'm i was just talking about you know know, get into granular shit.
And I feel like, I don't know, man, it's a good time.
Go check it out.
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
I guess I've had, this is a music thing,
I've had Herbie Hancock's album, Sunlight, on repeat the past week or so.
Got it on vinyl or are you just listening to it on a streaming i'm just on
i'm just on streaming i've i've picked up the bass again so i've just been like there you go
it's a vinyl is a hard way to you know reset and learn shit oh yeah oh yeah yeah 100 justin
where can people find you is there a work media you've been enjoying yeah uh thanks it's uh it's
been really fun and you know dipping a toe out
there into the into the public world uh you guys can find me at j con the smith on instagram i am
not on twitter or anywhere else i debated on whether even telling you guys where to find me
but you know i feel comfortable with with this crew zeitgang has uh seems like the least toxic
fan base you could be a part of. So,
yeah, you guys can hit me up there.
I promise you, I'm not kidding
when I say I barely dipped at
all into the messy
waters of social media. I think I've accepted
less than a hundred followers, and my account
was private. I'm making it public
today. You guys can look at
pictures of my dog, and
me just traveling around LA. Yeah, lions, the goddess. And, yeah, hit me up if you guys can look at pictures of my dog and uh me just traveling around la yeah lions the
goddess and yeah uh hit me up if you guys want to talk about any nerd shit or just you know have
someone to you know bounce an idea off of or two i love art i love tattoos i love sneaker culture
love all that shit um so that is again at j con the smith j c o n-O-N-T-H-E-S-M-I-T-H on Instagram.
And I do have a work of media I've been enjoying.
I've been getting really into like buying jewelry
and stuff lately.
Like my grandma gifted me a few of her old like gold rings
and necklaces and stuff.
And it kind of sparked this joy in me.
My uncle also, rest in peace, Uncle Tony, he owned a jewelry
store in Chicago. And there's this goldsmith that goes by the name of Castro Smith on Instagram
has some of the most beautiful custom pieces you will ever see. He uses rare materials. He uses
all types of minerals, gold, rubies, emeralds, and they just look amazing they're 100 just pure works of art
and um so uh yeah that's castro smith on instagram and uh you can find him there all right i'm gonna
go old-fashioned go a couple tweets i've been enjoying uh well i didn't even click that this
was the tweet section i had another okay you want to give us a tweet? I don't say tweets anymore.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got confused.
It's a TikTok.
There's visual to it, but
just know this man is watching
a mukbang video and his friend
walks in.
Hey, bro, I'm just trying to go downtown.
What?
I'm all good, bro.
All right.
What are you watching?
It's what you're doing.
What is this, bro?
Why are you?
Come on, bro.
It's what I like.
It's what I like to watch.
Oh, shit.
He's fucking it up.
Grab her like a motherfucker.
And she... And we see. Boom. that's from uh shoddy what makes you tick tock i believe to the account
oh that's good yeah uh all right this uh tweet is from cool math game underscore
and i'm calling it out because i want to hear you guys thoughts as you know comic book fans aficionados cory cool math games tweeted spider
man would be useless in a small town no buildings to swing from he would just be a regular guy at
that point has anybody tried to do that has anyone done the spiderman in smallville type shit i think so but that's also completely false
i mean he's got he's got super strength super agility he can sense things before it's gonna
happen uh just because he he's like on skyscrapers doesn't mean being you know two stories up above
everyone else is is gonna be kind of helpful you got the high ground we know that's helpful from
star wars i don't i don't see this being i don't see him taking l's in a small town no yeah
shut the fuck up yeah stupid he can he can web other shit yeah bro he can just wrap you up into
on to the side of a fucking bus stop it doesn't matter yeah he can sling himself like locomotion
might be a different a different But, like, combat?
No.
That's it.
You know, that's a wrap.
He's good.
Sophia Benoit tweeted, I'm going to say something that might be fucked up.
250 should be divisible by three.
And I just agree with that.
250 should be divisible by three.
And the fact that it isn't is a fucking travesty.
It's all math to me.
I don't know.
Man, what the fuck
no bro what now it's huh should be right no man this is some like this is some uh
terrence howard math yeah that's what right this. This is the new, this is the new math.
The new math works in my brain.
One plus one actually equals four.
No,
bro.
All right.
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We link off to the information that we talked about in today's
episode, as well as a song that
we think you might enjoy. Super Producer
Justin, what is the song that you think
people might enjoy? If you
want to feel like you're sea-walking
through Lavender Town and the original Pokemon
Yellow on my 90s brethren know what I'm talking about, throw on this song, bro.
This shit is so good.
This is Floating by Schoolboy Q and 21 Savage.
The beat is so fire.
It reminds me of that.
You're going through a little ghost town in Pokemon and you're just seawalking on all
the hoes.
So you can find that in the footnotes that's floating by Schoolboy Q and 21 Savage.
What is it? Is it off an album?
Yeah, it's off Crash Talk.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's even a little reference to it.
I think, how does it go?
Swag on mascot, no legs, bitch, I'm floating.
Might turn into a ghost punk, bitch. Yes, I'm floating.
God damn, the song is so good.
Turn that shit on.
You're going to have yourself a good Monday.
I promise.
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