The Daily Zeitgeist - Bathroom Battle Royale, Gerard Butler Has Fallen 01.18.23

Episode Date: January 18, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 271 episode 2 of dirt and lee's eye guys stay production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is wednesday january 18th 2023 you know what time it is national michigan day okay michigan yeah if you're in the glove you know shout out to you over there the hand or hand or the mitten or whatever y'all like in your state to a hand uh national winnie the pooh day national National Pecking Duck Day. National Thesaurus Day. Everyone's favorite dinosaur. You are nailing those pronunciations.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The emphasis is always in an interesting place. Did you see that tweet that was like, hey, kids who learn vocabulary through reading books, like what's a word you epically mispronounced because you'd only interacted it in books? I'm curious if you have a word like that. Because I don't. You know, acrid. I would say acrid.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Acrid. Yeah. And then I was in a writer's room. Like acid with an R in there. Yeah. And somebody was like, what'd you just say? I'm like, you know, that acrid taste in your mouth. They're like, acrid?
Starting point is 00:02:41 I'm like, fuck, man. Hey, hey, everybody. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. on hold on miles miles could you just could you just repeat that real quick what you just said quietly in the back of the room to me that acrid taste in
Starting point is 00:02:52 your mouth from the smoke in there i'm sure our listeners can tell me all the shit that i've mispronounced our guest has one just go ahead comfort table oh no. You said comfort table? Mm-hmm. Wow. Comfort table. I said comfort table for a long time. Comfort table, stay for the seat. Right. There you go. Okay, I like that. Anyway, my bad.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Right back to the word. Just a comfy table. Yeah. Yeah. It also suggests a childhood where you were so rarely comfortable that you just didn't have any use to say that word out loud. You just read about it in books. Never seen that word.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Also, when your parents don't know how to say a word, you don't learn what that word is until much later. Right, right. I thought it was bullshit. Bullshit? And then a bowl of shit. Hey, bullshit. Yeah, you're like, okay.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yeah, a bowl of shit. That's a bowl of shit. Miles, you said something very funny over text. You instructed an entity to drink your shit earlier. Yeah, I said drink my shit. Which really made me laugh very hard. You doing okay, Miles? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm just... It had to do with the Laker game. No, it had to do with the Laker game. So it's nothing high stakes, but Jack and I had a face-off over the weekend, the Sixers versus Lakers. But anyway, it's nothing important. John Woo, and I had a face-off over the weekend, the Sixers versus Lakers. But anyway, it's nothing important. Yeah, John Woo, Nick Cage, John Travolta style.
Starting point is 00:04:10 I mean, it sounds like you want to talk about it. I want to take my face off. We'll get to it on maybe another podcast. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. They're plump, they're plump, they're plump. Look at my legs. They're plump, they're plump, they're plump look at my legs they're plump they're plump they're plump like pony kegs that is courtesy of the one the only christy amaguchi main just talking about these little pony
Starting point is 00:04:34 keg legs that i walk around on and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles this bullshit all the grifters get a load of this shit few times to be around that track so it's probably just gonna happen like that but i ain't no russian hack george i ain't no russian hack george okay shout out to lacaroni for that hollaback girl george santos mashup yeah there you go i saw an article that was like, while the cries of appropriation ring out in the U.S., Japan merely shrugs its shoulders. I'm probably like, what was going on with that? I'm like, yeah, the Japanese people are not easily offended
Starting point is 00:05:13 about cultural appropriation. Let me just say that. That's just kind of the stance I think most Asian people have when they're like, oh, y'all talking about us? Okay. Because over here, we do it really wrong. That's right. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian writer director viral sensation the
Starting point is 00:05:31 brilliant the talented sorry i forgot an aka because you guys uh you don't tell me to do it so i always forget about it but you know what my name is a song in itself. It is. Indeed. It's a beautiful song. It's a lot of songs written about me, named after me. Yeah. Wait, so Comfort Table. Comfort Table. Bullshit. Bullshit.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Bullshit. I just love it. Bullshit. How long did you start saying it? When was the moment you had to have that reckoning with the real world you're like i'm sorry what did you just say with with bullshit yeah it was after i don't know i i think i read it and then i heard somebody else say it i heard a different adult say it and i was like if you step away from the two options and then come back to them with fresh eyes i don't know why bullshit makes more sense because it's just specifying a animal like an animal's type of shit that's probably less
Starting point is 00:06:33 offensive yeah a bowl of shit at least specifies a quantity yeah and it's like you're trying to serve me this shit yeah like you want me to eat it from a bowl yeah i call bullshit i call bullshit yeah i call cuss try asshole i call bullshit oh wow they said it comes from a french word god bullshit bullshit bull which means like liar or lie in old french from the old french bull meaning fraud or deceit i I don't know. Whatever. It's like one of those things we'll never know. I just prefer someone to be like, no, man, that's bullshit. That's not food that the guy just served you.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That was bullshit from out back. That was bullshit. That guy's a bull. You gobbled it up. And a bull, too. All right. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:07:22 to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about uh we're going to talk about a fight that might may or may not have happened in the capital bathroom it happened reports are it happened between lauren gogurt and mtg yeah so the mtg is that the the marvel cinematic gooniverse that's exactly the one i knew it i knew it. I knew it. Yeah, we're big fans here. You always got to keep up with the latest installment. The bloody, bloody Murdochs. The South Carolina corrupt legal family decades, generations of having power in a small South Carolina town.
Starting point is 00:08:06 And then there's a bunch of murders and deaths and that implicated them. And the trial is starting next week. The New Yorker sent a reporter down, which meant that I read a New Yorker article, which means that I have to share it with everybody. So it's a it's a doozy, so we'll check in with that story. We're going to talk about, there's a new Gerard Butler movie over the weekend that did kind of good, made like $14 million, even though I was not aware of its existence. And we're going to talk about just sort of a long-standing trend
Starting point is 00:08:43 we've seen of sort of conservatism in the politics of his action movies. And yeah, all of that, plenty more. But first, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh, well, it's funny you mentioned reading a single New Yorker article and then having to tell everyone about it because I did the same thing. But it was a different New Yorker article than the one you read, which meant I couldn't read the one that you linked me to because I'm not allowed. No more free articles. Yeah, I was locked out of the Murdoch story. Can you just use a private browser window?
Starting point is 00:09:17 That doesn't work. You have to do some other shit. They're on to us, Miles. They're on to us, Miles. You can't even do like reader mode or whatever? Oh, maybe reader mode would work. Maybe I should try that. Sometimes reader mode can x-ray a website. I'm behind on the hacks.
Starting point is 00:09:30 I used to use 12-foot, but that doesn't work anymore. But I did, as a result of reading a single New York article, my last Google search is Kendall Getty website. There was an article in the New Yorker about the Getty family, which is a super, super massive, very, very rich family, very big California family, a lot of the lawsuit, all of their tax avoidance strategies are being discussed as part of the court record, which is really fun. And Kendall Getty is one of the Getty heiresses. She is a multimedia artist, and I really urge you guys to Google her and go to her website so you can look at her art. Sometimes I think that i don't
Starting point is 00:10:25 know anything about art and i don't know if it's good or bad but it turns out i do know you have some sense yeah sometimes you go to a museum and you go i don't know i like this one i don't like this one i don't really know why i don't know what art is good and bad i just know what i like but then you see some art and you're like that's bad art you know i didn't have to go to art school to to know this art's bad was it was this the same getty that like had that inexplicable like spread like cover story done about him in a magazine like in the last year and people were like what the fuck is going on they're like they're a getty yeah and then it was like oh that's why yeah the family has like a lot of heirs because j paul getty who
Starting point is 00:11:05 was the one that made most of the money had like a ton of children by a ton of different mothers and so uh and he like cut a couple of them out of his will like it's very dramatic the the article gets into it it's it's very good so she's like shitty billionaire bob marley kind of like you're like yeah man of course you j paul Getty's grandson. Everybody's fucking related to J. Paul Getty, man. Yeah, so, like, for example, Kendall Getty's Instagram bio includes the phrase, bastard princess, because she is an
Starting point is 00:11:33 illegitimate Getty heir. Wow. What is Game of Thrones or some shit? Yeah, also, it's, uh, she's in the Democratic Socialists of America. It's a great article. Good for you, Kendall.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's good. It's all about how money managers help their millennial clients invest in more ethically responsible portfolios. Right. Start one. Point one. It's really good. All the millennials have portfolios they're trying to diversify. It's the most exciting article about tax evasion that I've ever read.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I'll say that. Right. There's a lot of that. That actually ends up being not really tax evasion, but like complicated financial crimes that are just by design so complicated that your eyes glaze over two sentences into the paragraph where they're describing it. Yep. It seems to be at the heart of this Murdoch empire. Yeah. It turns out that the whole money making money thing is like legal, but all of the lawyers that know about it are like,
Starting point is 00:12:34 we got to do this as much as we can before it becomes illegal. Because once people, once people's eyes stop glazing over and they realize what we're doing, they're going to make it illegal. Yeah. The overall shape of it is them stealing money from poor people. eyes stop blazing over and they realize what we're doing they're gonna make it illegal yeah the overall shape of it is them stealing money from poor people like that that is what is happening but also just avoiding taxes like avoiding taxes for generations and generations by passing things
Starting point is 00:12:56 down in these trusts and pretending that they don't live in california so they don't have to pay california property taxes even though they do live in California. Like, you know, it's succession shit for sure. Right. Yeah. I mean, they even have a fuck up named Kendall. That's who has artistic aspirations. That's that rules. They made their money, though, in like a really smart way where they just like had this brilliant idea that nobody thought.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Oh, no, wait. They just found a bunch of oil. Yeah. Yeah. Became you used their influence from finding some oil to find all the oil it's called entrepreneurship jack thank you dude this one piece of art looks like a deer with like a human face on it my favorite is the one that's a video called happy birthday mr president which i'll just spoil it for you guys is a shadow play uh where you see the silhouette of a girl sucking a man's penis,
Starting point is 00:13:48 and then he kills her. You should watch it. It's on Vimeo. Wow. Oh, yo! This website is wild. What do you think that's implying? Like, that's deep.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Well, it says that it wants to be a disruption of visual literacy, and I think that's what it is. Have you seen that show, Nathan Barley? It was a British comedy that came out in the early aughts. I've heard of it, but I've never watched it. It, like, presages all this kind of shit. Where it's like, dude, check out the newest art.
Starting point is 00:14:20 And, like, this one picture she did is literally she clipped out a scene where like jean-claude van damme is holding something but she like collaged it in with like a porno where like some collages and honestly they're not the worst like of all the art on the website this one's just a wild to look at i'm like why is jean-claude van damme doing this to this woman but it's just the juxtaposition of like the things like, yep. And this one's my two in my 2D medium. But anyway, it feels like this very like provocative for provocation's sake kind of art. But it's really like a 14 year old. It's really a 14 year old's art. It speaks to me.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It speaks to me. You're in a 14 year old. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because like this, I mean, I remember when I was younger, like I did not, I could not understand art, could not understand poetry because I just hadn't lived enough and wasn't in touch enough with, like, meaning of life. So this, I'm like, yeah, this shit where Van Damme has, like, a sword to this naked lady. Yeah, I get that. Shit's wild.
Starting point is 00:15:17 That's the point. This speaks to me. What is something you think is overrated? Tara? Ugh, I mean, I'm just looking at this website now again. When I search Kendall Getty, I get a lot of Getty image results for Kendall Jenner. It's Kendall with an E. It's K-E-N-D-A-L-L-E.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah, Ken Dolly. It says, who is kendallygetty.com? I love it's like like like what is thematrix.com when that fucking trailer came out who is she found it what what is something you think is overrated besides the works of kendall getty sorry she's on her own instagram posting at ny times somebody please report on ir. Thank you so much, Kendall, for your support. Okay. What is something I think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:16:09 Preventative Botox. I think it should stop. It should stop. I know you guys are on that tip hard. Yeah. The whole getting Botox at 23 so that your face never has a chance to form wrinkles. Oh, like saying, like, I'm not even going to let y'all see some wrinkles on this fucking face. That kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Oh, okay. Yeah. It's really weird. And there's a lot of like teens. I mean, literally they're like 19 on TikTok and they're like, you know, it's like one of those memes where they're like, everybody's saying I'm crazy. Me getting preventative Botox at 19.
Starting point is 00:16:44 And like, you know, it looks weird. It looks weird. Everyone can tell. It doesn't look good. Getting wrinkles is fine. Aging is okay. You know?
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah, don't worry. So what? Your forehead's going to look like Kylo Ren's mask in a few years. I'm trying to get my forehead to look like that Geordie Bishop cover. In 4D. Yeah. kendall getty's art did you see under the 4d section of her art i'm sorry it's just videos i know i'm like that ain't the fourth dimension can art whatever anyway they're like let's smell some oranges while you're looking at it yeah yeah yeah man i love that smelling while looking at art yeah this the you know it's
Starting point is 00:17:30 true like the whole thing with your face being frozen like it affects your ability to emote like yeah i i know i was the only person i was like yo like aubrey plaza is really playing this whole character deadpan and white lotus and i was was like, oh, no, shit's frozen. Get ready. It froze up. Get ready, Miles. Everybody's about to be that deadpan. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:17:51 We're not even going to recognize it as deadpan anymore. People are always talking about, like, the dead eye look. And it's like, it's because your face is frozen. Right. To, like, the person who just doesn't do that. Like, the way they were emoting. I've never seen anything like this in my life. They were trying to express emotion, but everything around them made it.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It was so restrained. You know, that's going to be the word you hear a lot when it comes to performances. Restrained. So very, very subtle. The subtlety of their anger was very clear. But studies have found, and i like a lot of studies that came out in the 2000s that you know were like whoa and like you know i i wrote about them in cracked and then you know i i probably need to do some re-research on that but like there were
Starting point is 00:18:40 studies that found that people who do botox report feeling less emotions because they can't move their face. And like, you know, you don't want to go down the slippery slope to like just smile and you'll feel better. But it does seem like there is a two way street that happens between the face and the brain. between the face and the brain. And so like if you get Botox, you just like feel dead if your face is not able to make the same expressions that it normally would via emotion. That's depressing.
Starting point is 00:19:13 There was even the thing that they're saying. You can't tell that I'm feeling depressed, but it's depressing. Yeah, that really hits sorrow. Yeah, yeah. But you played it really subtle. So shout out to you. I remember like,
Starting point is 00:19:22 I think we even talked about on the show about how like some like doctors are saying like if you go too hard on that like you're like like parent infant communication skills also begin like that also look oh for sure like babies are like oh yeah this motherfucker's not impressed at all facial expressions are like pretty important to our communication as a species like extremely extremely important extremely important. And, you know, it's kind of a it's kind of a hack joke of like somebody getting too much Botox and can't make a facial expression. But honestly, it's fucking terrifying because, yeah, babies learn to make facial expressions because they see you make facial expressions. And that's why it's important to smile at babies so that they can smile and why like them smiling is a really important developmental milestone. And like, if babies don't make facial expressions, it's like a potential sign that they might be autistic. You know, it's like, it's an important thing to be able to do. And like autistic children
Starting point is 00:20:16 are taught facial expressions and how to read facial expressions. Like that's how important it is. It's like, if you don't instinctively understand it, it's important enough that you have to learn it. I don't know why I have to explain that facial expressions are important. Yeah. Right. Turns out it is something that's just not even like factored into the equation of whether or not to get Botox as opposed to like wrinkles that
Starting point is 00:20:37 only somebody who is staring at themselves in the mirror for 45 minutes straight. Well, that's why they got levels to it. You know what I mean? Like they dilute it, you know, they get the water color i heard my home right talking about that one it's like yeah just a little bit all over so you still got a little control i'm like all right wow that's what they call it like i think they i think they water it down like it's
Starting point is 00:20:58 fucking base like they're cutting the rack or some shit to like yeah you just water it down a little bit and then it gives a little more of a natural look. But anyway, you know, to each their own. Because I know, I mean, I remember my dad was like, he had headaches or some shit and got it. But then it didn't work. Yeah, it's an actual medical treatment that works for some things. But then, you know, the plastic surgery industry. Yeah, when you need a muscle to freeze, it's really useful.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, I still got time. I'm all right. What is something you need a muscle to freeze, it's really useful. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, I still got time. I'm all right. What is something you think is underrated? I have so many more underrateds than overrateds. Overall, I'm just a big appreciator. I... Okay, so before December 31st,
Starting point is 00:21:36 all three Rush Hours were on Netflix. I watched them in a row. And I do think they're underrated. I would love to talk about them. I think Samin Nosrat is underrated even though she's extremely, she's gotten a lot of praise. She won the James Beard Award,
Starting point is 00:21:50 but I still think she's underrated. I think people don't appreciate her enough. This woman is the Juliet Child of the 2020s. And then the last thing that I think is underrated is rain catchment. We got rain barrels where I live and they filled up really quickly. And now I'm obsessed with how
Starting point is 00:22:05 much rain catchment we could be doing on a municipal scale. And, you know, I live in Los Angeles. It's a very dry place. We have a very low level of rainfall and we have a lot of water problems. And now I'm like water rich and I'm going mad with power with all the water I have. You're like, look at this cistern I built. Just slapping my barrels like, look at this cistern I built. Just slapping my barrels like, look at this. Feel that. Listen to that. And when I turn on the spigot and it sprays out, I just laugh maniacally. Yeah, it's amazing. It's really mind blowing when you've lived in a place like Southern California for a long time and you're used to thinking of water as
Starting point is 00:22:44 an extremely precious resource, which it is. If I lived in a place like you know southern california for a long time and you're used to thinking of water as an extremely precious resource which it is you know right if i lived in a rainier place perhaps i wouldn't uh worry so much but you know you're like oh water it's all it's so expensive and i gotta get it from the water company and then it's just falling out of the sky and you're like i can put it in this barrel yeah yeah so how does the catchment system work like do you is it just a barrel that sits out and the rain that happens to fall in it or is there like some collecting mechanism it's a the downspout you know how like your roof has gutters and the gutters feed into downspouts and then water just goes out you just connect the downspout to a barrel to the top and like there's different ways of doing it you can have like if you have an open top barrel then of course once the rain's
Starting point is 00:23:23 over you got to seal it so that bugs don't breed inside but the the kind that we got was like a closed system so it just goes from the barrel i'm sorry from the downspout into the barrel and it's all sealed and then you just turn on the spigot when you want it it's it's it's so cool and now wherever i go i'm just thinking about the catchment possibilities and large buildings and paved areas and i'm like looking at the gutters and all of the all of the runoff that we get in la just go straight to the ocean which you know yeah it seems like something they should address we were talking about that last week that we are a place that is like chronically out of water and then we have this one huge downpour every six months and we were just like
Starting point is 00:24:06 oh man that water later useful in a month yeah yeah well i think that's the other part too is like even locally right like in my yard like i dug a swale to like basically have more ways for the water to re-enter the like the ground because have grass. That shit ain't doing it. So I put a swale in. I think that's one way I've been dealing with. A lot of my anxiety about climate and shit. Is like. Part of me is like. Man why the fuck do I gotta do this shit.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Because all these motherfuckers. I think fucking Exxon. Who knew this shit for decades. But I'm like god damn it. I guess I gotta do this shit. Because they won't. But it feels good. Because in a way. That's a really beneficial. like they're really trying to encourage that more in L.A.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Especially because too many people have grass lawns. And you could actually be doing shit to like when we have rain like that. You could feed that water back into the ground. And also like rewilding shit because you look at all the loss of like biomass and the insects and things like that. It's as easy as like taking your, like people's vanity plants that they put in their yards and just putting back local fucking just shit that grow that grows here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And it's so much easier to, that's the thing. It's so much easier to take care of. It's so much easier to use water. You literally just throw seeds on the ground before it rains. then boom like a month later you got flowers yeah all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back to talk lauren marjorie and uh all sorts of shit i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:28:55 And we're back and so yeah exactly that's the tone principal mccarthy lauren and marjorie are fighting in the bathroom that's what happened a couple of weeks ago apparently and like for all the shit talking we do about our elected officials in washington it's nice to get the occasional reminder that we aren't wrong and that a bunch of malformed ego ego freaks do in fact make up the majority of congress but the latest goss is it's quite literally out of the capital bathrooms where reports are emerging of a friendship ending fight although no it's debatable between whether or not these two people are friends but between low and i said low hold on hold on let me get into my sleepover position where i hold the phone to my ear and i kick my feet behind me yeah exactly hold on three-way
Starting point is 00:29:41 the cory line the cording your finger yeah. Here's some other words that rhyme with Corey. Story? Allegory? Anyway, shout out to the Simpsons reference. But this latest gossip, right? They're in the bathroom. It's Lauren Golgurt versus Majorly Tainted Fiend. And they had to face off.
Starting point is 00:29:59 And look, the way this even works, again, I'm not even sure these people even have a functional understanding of what a friendship is. But at the very least, they will not be sharing Klan robes after this bust up. I will. I can say this. So the showdown happened as the speakership vote kicked off and McCarthy was taking more L's than a drug dealer whose plug is in Canarsie. Boom. Please, please bomb drop that. Did I do that right new york hip-hop thank you so much that was so good you know i mean take the elder canars anyway uh so margie taylor green confronted lauren in the bathroom and the exchange goes as follows based on quotes from the people that uh reported this in the daily beast first margie taylor green comes up apparently blows out of a bathroom stall like a fucking villain and is like so quote you were okay taking millions of dollars from
Starting point is 00:30:47 mccarthy but you refuse to vote for him for speaker lauren lauren turns around don't be ugly and then allegedly according to the witnesses that were there quote ran out like a school girl wait there were other people in the bathroom yes one was uh representative debbie dingle uh from massachusetts shout out i mean michigan from michigan she's a democrat but she when the Were other people in the bathroom? Yes. One was representative of Debbie Dingle from Massachusetts. Shout out. I mean, Michigan. From Michigan. She's a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:31:09 But when they asked her, they're like, yo, were you in there? And she's like, look, what happens in the bathroom stays in the bathroom. She kept the G code. She said, that's where we go to handle shit in the bathroom, like a public high school. Now ask me off the record. Now ask me off the record. She ran out like a little girl. She may have been the source for this story.
Starting point is 00:31:28 But yeah, this is like, apparently this has been brewing for years, which makes sense because they're both like the same version of like a guano-brained racist whose reality is formed by Facebook shitposts. But I think what the problem was was there could only be one you know like yeah completely out there right wing ethno-nationalist spokesperson well you always hate the person who's most like you you know right right yeah and on one side you had tough marge and then you had cutie gun gun in the form of low and lauren gogurt and i guess it makes sense that it came to, to a head there, but a lot of people are still trying to figure out what the millions of dollars comment was because they're like, hold on.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Like was Kevin McCarthy's pack sending Lauren Bobert money. They couldn't quite, it doesn't matter, but it's just wild because the GOP is now entering like the kids being banished from the cafeteria. So they have to eat their lunch in the library now phase. Yeah. Which if we all remember,
Starting point is 00:32:27 that is the first cancel culture. When too much drama, you get banished to the, when you like lose your social cache, like in high school. And they're like, you're like, yo,
Starting point is 00:32:37 they don't eat with them now. They eat with them now. And you're like, ah, they were canceled. I think the first cancel culture is a timeout. Yeah, truly. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. When you're little and you're like ah they were canceled i think the first cancel culture is a time out yeah truly yeah i guess yeah when you're little and you don't share you get canceled yeah for five mtg's line reads like it was scripted ahead of time and practiced like just
Starting point is 00:32:57 the way it's oh a hundred percent you were okay taking millions of dollars so right exactly yeah door flies open to like come on this is true and yet this is true the thing that people say all the time in conversation very gossip girl yeah exactly i love it but ran out like a little school girl uh so it's getting it's getting ugly over there but i would love to hear more reports of what goes on in the congressional bathrooms, males included. Yeah. Yeah. McConnell just did an absolute paint job in the congressional bathroom. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:33:35 They're like, dude, have you ever pissed next to Lindsey Graham at the urinal? Dude. He's giving himself pep talks. His flow's all week, dude. It's so awkward. And then I feel bad that I'm peeing on normal. And then he gets all just down and out next to me. See, this is what people used to do before Twitter is just be mean to each other in the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Right. Yeah. And I'm right about it literally on the bathroom wall. Yeah. And then everybody would be like, did you hear what happened in the bathroom? Right. Did you hear what happened? Lindsay has a weak stream.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Did you hear what happened in the bathroom? Right. Did you hear what happened? Lindsay has a weak stream. That is one of the worst, like when you're peeing next to usually an older person and it's just evidently very painful. That's like one of the first moments you have about your mortality, I think, as a man entering the workforce. about your mortality, I think, as a man entering the workforce. I remember one of my first big office jobs where you
Starting point is 00:34:27 interacted with one of the higher-ups who's 75. Then you both are in the bathroom. I'm over here being like, shh. Then my man's over here fucking the Green Mile, like Tom Hanks.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Tom Hanks' major character conflict. Sounds like a Hanks. Yeah. Look, Tom Hanks is my heart goes out to them. Sounds like a trap song. It's like, beep, beep, beep. Yeah. A lot of breath work happening. They've discovered Kundalini yoga through just having to
Starting point is 00:34:59 piss all the time. I remember this one job I had where people... Hey! Got some kidney stones you're like whoa kidney stones but yeah i just you look it's it's the passage of time and it comes for us all but anyway drama for me no prostate yeah hey good for you anyway guys get your prostate check yeah yeah all. Let's talk about the Murdochs. We checked into this. Is it Murdoch? I thought it was Murdahl.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Murdahl is what it looks like it should be pronounced. No, respect names here. This is an example of this. I was saying it wrong. The New Yorker. I don't know what you were saying. I'm asking. One of the opening paragraphs said Murdoch. And this will be the first time I've been pronouncing their names correctly.
Starting point is 00:35:42 And I apologize. I should have put more respect on your name, the Murdochs. So this is a story that's been kind of had our attention in drips and drabs, going back to old people pissing, as the details kind of leaked out. But the New Yorker went down because the trial of Alex Murdoch, So the New Yorker went down because the trial of Alex Murdoch, the sort of patriarch and main criminal defendant in this thing, is about to start. So basically, they were just like running this town. They were the most powerful attorneys. They were connected to all of the most powerful judges.
Starting point is 00:36:23 All of the law enforcement kind of answered to them. The thing that kicked it all off, their son got really drunk, which was kind of what he was known for, just always being hammered. Got really drunk and crashed a boat into a bridge with a bunch of people on it. And it resulted in the death of a young girl. Was it Labor Day? That sounds like a Labor Day crime. I don't remember. It was like a few years back. It was 2018.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Impossible to say, sorry. Okay. What day it was. No, it's in the article. I just didn't write it down. So they hire an attorney for him by the name of Dick Harpootlian. And it turns out Dick Harpootlian is a powerful state senator a member of the senate judiciary committee in south carolina and i can't emphasize this enough is named dick
Starting point is 00:37:12 harpootlian and so he comes in it's looking like he's gonna shoot holes in the case and like get this dude off and then suddenly uh that that young man the chronically drunk son of this you know huge powerful family and his mom are murdered in on the night of june 7th 2021 got that date they're they're found dead outside the kennels on their 17-acre hunting estate. And then three months later... That's, sorry, 1,700. 100. 1,700-acre hunting estate. Jack, they're not poor. Sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I had to... Was it not in my Murdoch mindset? How can you hunt people on 17 acres, Jack? Exactly. People will be able to hear them scream. Oh, you only need to give them a 15-second head start? No, come on. That's just poor form. That's non-sporting. Three months later, Alex. So Alex was the one who found his son and wife and called 911. Three months later, he calls 911 again, telling the dispatcher he'd been
Starting point is 00:38:20 shot in the head by a stranger while changing a flat tire on his car and then people quickly realize like an eyewitness like it looked really weird when i drove by like it looked like a setup quick quickly it becomes evident that he had someone like shoot him but nobody can even like find the wound so he like it might have just been that he asked the local law enforcement to say he got shot. Oh, so he said he got... Wait, I remember this, right? Because then he was like, I'm on opioids, man. That's what's going on.
Starting point is 00:38:54 But he didn't actually even get shot in the head? He showed up in court two weeks later. And there was no evident wound on him. Oh, my God. There are a lot of other body parts you could pretend to be shot in. Right. Exactly. Or just take a real one and be like, yo, I'll just get in the muscle.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Come on, let's go. But instead, he did a fake head shot. Come on, Alex, let's go. And so his like ne'er-do-well cousin Eddie, who was supposedly the person who shot him, according to Alex, because he paid him to. So Alex basically went with the like, hey, man, I'm on a lot of opioids. Like I need I needed the money for opioids. when the reporter asked Harpootlian about the fact that Alex showed up for a bond hearing with no sign of injury to his head two weeks after the incident. Harpootlian said, good hair. That was his explanation.
Starting point is 00:39:54 So these people just like don't give a fuck. What does that mean? So fucking brazen. I think he's just trying to be like, he's got good hair. He had a head of hair that you couldn't see a bullet wound in his head. Oh my God. Yeah. There's something wrong with Harpootlian.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Yeah. These people are drunk as fuck on power, man. Incredibly powerful. The most powerful Harpootlian in the galaxy. Yeah. He's the most, like people say he's the most powerful person in South Carolina. Damn. How do you get away with like becoming that powerful and having the name Harpootlian i don't know it rings or maybe it helps maybe i like thinking that like
Starting point is 00:40:31 he's from the planet harpootli which is so wild though that the the most powerful armenian american in this country isn't a kardashian it's this motherfucker harpootlian right it was like yeah man i can i said my client got shot in the head he fucking did it fool and i'm still banging out here like wow yeah so the two new cases crop up like now that people are like looking at this they they start to assume that alex was involved in the murder of his son and his wife and in fact now he is accused of being the sole gunman in the murder of his son and wife. And also two new cases have cropped up that were people who died on their property. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:12 That it sucks. It's really suspicious. Like there's this guy, Stephen Smith, who had been found dead in the middle of a road near their 1700 acre hunting estate with a serious head injury. Superficial appearances suggested he'd run out of gas, begun walking home, been accidentally hit by a vehicle, except there was no evidence of a hit and run or like any vehicle. There was no vehicle debris,
Starting point is 00:41:37 skid marks. And then people are like, I, the, the rumor starts to spread that he was murdered by paul and buster the the oldest of the scions of this paul paul is the younger one who would eventually be murdered and but that is like the official state coroner comes back and is like or no wait it's the official it's what so some official comes back and is like he was hit by a car. Nothing to see here.
Starting point is 00:42:05 This is a normal collar. Leave it alone. And so no Murdochs were ever questioned in that one. But there's some rumor that Smith was gay and his name was linked to Busters in the gossip mill of former high school classmates. And so it was like done to cover up any homosexual activity by buster i can't believe there's a real buster in this tale of familial financial i know it's it's wild uh then there was a housekeeper who died in the house and they used the basically he then reached out to her sons and was like hey you could sue me for $500,000 and then I will get
Starting point is 00:42:47 collect the payment for you and pay you back. And the sons were like, OK, we're you know, we don't have any money and we are about to be evicted from our our mobile home. So they agreed to that. Never saw a penny. And like as the local reporters were kind of going through all this shit, they discovered that he had in fact collected the $500,000 Alex Murdoch and just like took it and didn't pay the children of the housekeeper who died on their property. And so that then leads to them being like, and in fact, that is really the only way this guy ever made money. Like that's all he did was his law firm basically was like really good at suing people for like,
Starting point is 00:43:37 that was kind of the main industry in that part of town because like all the factories had closed and, you know, just capitalism,ized capitalism all over the place like they had there was a bunch of farming that happened that just had no long-term respect for the land and it like leached it of all its minerals and like so the place is just the only the the only industry is this law firm suing people, essentially. And then taking their settlement money.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And then he would find ways to siphon off settlement money. It's a tale as old as time, Jack. Tom Girardi was the real housewives taught us all about this recently with another guy who is like the he's like, oh, man, these people blew up in a gas explosion in the Bay Area. I'm also going to keep the money. Yeah, i guess like that's how these people get down and like they talk about how it is still like a big industry in south carolina like that's how the laws are set up is that they will basically treat these settlement payments like you, cash payday loans. And they basically take advantage of the fact that the people who are getting these settlements need the money. And they're like, here, we'll pay you 30 percent of that now. And then we get the rest, like as it comes out later
Starting point is 00:44:56 on down the road. And that's on the books. That's not even like against the law. And what this guy, he can do whatever he wants because the republicans are protecting him right no no no no no so we also get this interesting detail alex's attorney still harpootlian as he's facing murder trial is super well connected harpootlian a former chair of the state democratic party has talked of playing golf with President Joe Biden. And his wife was recently made U.S. ambassador to Slovenia. Who hasn't played golf with Joe Biden, Jack? Right. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:45:33 We've all played golf with Joe Biden. Yeah. Yeah. He doesn't remember it, but I do. Yeah. But you can say it and he doesn't want to admit that he doesn't remember. So he'll always say yes. He'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:44 How you been? See, I told you. Wow. So Joe By byron i mean look it just it's wild again no matter where you get powerful like this it's the game's the same it's like yeah man there's rules for us but if you know enough people really you can do whatever the fuck you want i said alex got shot in the head bro he didn't anyway i'm still cooking out here like is this guy in trouble at all or is he actually still the attorney in this guy's because you said alex murdoch's trial is starting now or like he's starting in the 23rd of january and harpoolian is his attorney and that's just the way it is like the thing that i was talking about like that there's
Starting point is 00:46:26 something called factoring that's that's the practice of like basically lending people money or like taking people's settlement payments or siphoning it off and it's all just it's all just you know the most immoral use of money to make money as you said earlier sorry like that's just they use the fact that they have a ton of money to take advantage of people who aren't capable don't have like the massive staff to understand all the legalities and like business complexities that they're using to take away their money. And that is the U.S. economy. It's not isolated. We have way too many fucking fancy words for stealing from poor people.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Exactly. This part is really amazing. Factoring companies can offer cash up front to victims in exchange for part or all of their settlements at an average rate of 25 cents on the dollar yeah in one case judge had allowed companies to buy a young woman's entire settlement in a series of deals culminating in the purchase of her remaining trench for about 10 cents on the dollar the woman had suffered brain damage in a train collision at the age of 12
Starting point is 00:47:41 and the settlement was intended to support her for the rest of her life. A retired judge dryly underscored the state's tolerance of such practices by saying, we're all entitled to make stupid mistakes. Okay. There's no such thing as predators. Only stupid idiots that make
Starting point is 00:48:00 mistakes, huh? All right, Your Honor. Thank you. Stupid idiots with their injury settlements in their home and their what'd you have a tbi when you're 12 years old come on who makes a deal like that like what where's the m like i mean there is yeah i mean it's literally like why would you take out this home loan when you knew you couldn't afford it because i need a home yeah right you idiot who would give that to you you you encouraged me you said this was the one to take this is the way I was going to
Starting point is 00:48:27 realize my dreams you fucking targeted me it's just a bunch of like people privileged people like golfing together and you know letting each other do this shit and when Alex Murdoch like we'll
Starting point is 00:48:43 update you guys as the case unfolds, but when he appeared before the trial, like, there's a painting of his grandfather in the back of the courthouse. I love the South. Yeah, well, I don't even think it's just the South. It's not just the South, but I think the South is one place in America where a lot of the generational, like dynastic generations have stayed in one place. You know? Also, this also really makes me think of, you know, that no one wants to work anymore thing. And it's like, yeah, because we found out that the work that you were doing was just stealing from poor people. So, yeah, no, I don't really want to do that.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Wait, so hold on. You got all of this from just stealing? Yeah, yeah, fuck that. I'm not lying. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's like you become a... I mean, who becomes a lawyer and then is like, well, can't wait to spend the rest of my life sucking the blood out of everybody
Starting point is 00:49:42 around me. But the reporter is like still they're like i just can't get my mind around this person like killing their son it just seems so far-fetched because like he everything up to that point would have suggested that he was you know doing everything like using the machinations of his power to protect this kid. And like, it just seemed it, but I feel like they're not taking into account like what addiction can do to your brain. And the fact that like on a broad scale, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:15 you, you have these people who are making all this money and, you know, just completely immorally have no, like no, any social currency or like friends to to speak of they're just nothing yeah produce nothing and then they are at the top and they're like and then you can buy all the drugs that give you the brain chemical that is produced by the human interaction that we're that we've replaced with these capitalist machinations. And so, like, it actually makes perfect sense to me that this person who had replaced who had like become drug addicted as at this point where they were just like nihilistically stealing from everyone and knew they couldn't be caught, that they would get to that point, because that's, that's kind of what happens is just completely alter your brain chemicals to
Starting point is 00:51:08 the point that you're kind of inhuman. And that's like kind of the whole complete system that we've found is like you, you have a system that completely siphons the humanity out of everything. And then your reward for that is like drugs that give you the brain chemicals that you used to get from interacting with people. I'm like going bowling with people. Well, it sounds like a perfect system to me. Yeah, perfectly self-contained system. Sign us up.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Yeah. It's regenerative. Anyways, it's worth a read. We'll link off to it in the footnotes and we will keep you guys updated as the trial unfolds he's gonna walk jack what's the over under on it it's funny the the reporter's like i was expecting everyone was like oh he's this good old boy you drop him in any southern town he'd just like come off as just one of the guys he'd be fine and then like he walks in and he's this like tall guy who looks he'd just like come off as just one of the guys he'd be fine and then like he walks in and he's this like tall guy who looks like he just like stepped off of a yacht and it's
Starting point is 00:52:11 just like that that's who it is he's and he's in a courtroom again with a painting of his grandfather in the back of it you think he walks in and kisses his hand and then goes and then touches it to the painting goes that's my grandpa my grandpa probably what what love you gramps love you grandpa love you pappy love you gim gim all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
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Starting point is 00:54:56 I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints of a lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies, when the civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that.
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Starting point is 00:56:00 So, last weekend saw the release of Plane, which is the newest action movie starring Gerard Butler. P-L-A-N-E. Plane. Yeah. Just Plane. First off. We just want to really let's sit with that. His new movie. Plain. Yeah. Just plain. First off. We just want to really let's sit with that. His new movie. What's it about?
Starting point is 00:56:10 I think the farmer. Oh, it's about, uh, let me just look this up. It's about plain, uh, plain,
Starting point is 00:56:15 good. Yeah. Plain have bad guy, Gerard Butler. Good brown skin people. Bad. I think is what the, that's his next movie.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Brown skin people. Bad. Uh, you can't wait to see either but yeah so plane came out so the the reviews were actually like pretty decent like that people are like it's so simple and dumb that and it like seems to know that it's simple and dumb but it does have this kind of political bent that a lot of his movies seem to have we've talked before about uh den of thieves and how that is supposed to be like a gritty movie about that has in the
Starting point is 00:56:54 background of it like the la sheriff's department gangs but he's the like anti-hero and he's like part of those gangs and the bad guy in it ends up being like just a Kaiser Soze, like international criminal mastermind. Like they have to like invent this wild criminal conspiracy to so that you're rooting for the L.A. Sheriff's Department gangs, basically. basically. And that's kind of what like through throughout his movie. So, so first there was the 300, which was wildly racist. The war between the Spartans and the Persians was,
Starting point is 00:57:35 you know, both the depiction depiction of the Persians was like super racist. It was also a pretty clear allegory and justification for the Iraq war. Like we needed one. Right. Thank you. Jack, I was there. They had WMDs. But Marines of the time took inspiration from Butler and talked about it in the media being like,
Starting point is 00:57:56 we're like the hopelessly outnumbered Spartans fighting heroically to the death. Except, you know, we're doing it from Apache helicopters. Except the power dynamics completely reversed. It has nothing to do with anything at all, we're doing it from Apache helicopters. Except the power dynamics completely reverse. That has nothing to do with anything at all. But yeah, it's like that.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yeah. Olympus has fallen, came in 2013, a few years into Obama's presidency. And it was one of two movies that summer about a black president. In this time, in this case, it was played by Morgan Freeman, who allows the White House basically to be overtaken by terrorists and like has to be saved by a white Secret Service agent. White House down being the other one. And basically, yeah, it's just like, I don't know. There's a bunch of why I never saw that movie, but people seemed to think that it was like pretty pretty clear-cut it's like this guy doesn't know what he's doing and then there's also like a a subplot
Starting point is 00:58:51 with russians interfering on behalf of morgan freeman to like get him elected essentially so like they're 4d dude that's sick that was in that i didn't even i just i just noticed everyone exploding when i first saw the movie i had no idea it was about anything yeah it's like even plane right is like about dude the description of plane this you know what the fuck his fucking character's name is brody torrence okay that's fucking hell yeah that's like some cool that's some porn shit i like they said pilot brody torrence saves passengers from a lightning strike by making a risky landing on a war torn island. Only to find that surviving the landing was just the beginning when dangerous rebels take most of the passengers hostage.
Starting point is 00:59:37 The only person Torrance can count on for help is Louis Gaspar, an accused murderer who is being transported by the fbi oh i hate rebels except in star wars right yeah and it's people completely missed the point of that one too yeah it takes place in the philippines which you know is a place that the u.s intervened in and you know that just one of the most heavily fucking colonized countries on the fucking earth yeah has like destroyed and basically the the movie just treats it as like well this is a hellhole but u.s is here and we're here to like save the day and also by the way brody torrence he is only a i'm sorry when you say brody torrence i just imagine a 14 year old a 14 year old white boy who's skateboards who wrote this
Starting point is 01:00:26 movie that's right yeah or i feel like it's a character brody reed would have been very upset about because like torrence ain't in the fucking valley dude brody torrence is fucking serious that's that's my first yeah yeah no it sounds like a guy on the oc right he is only flying this difficult shift because he was filmed attacking a rude passenger one time and it went viral. Oh, so he was canceled? Yeah, it's also anti-cancel culture. So glad they worked that in. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Oh, because I assaulted a passenger? Like, what? I'm sorry, that's supposed to make you sympathetic to the audience? Yeah. Haven't you ever assaulted a passenger on a plane, Miles? It's relatable. No. Yeah, seriously.
Starting point is 01:01:09 London has fallen, the follow-up to White House down. They were like, can't say London down because they're too fancy. So we have to say London has fallen. But it is basically, it was decried immediately for its blatant Islamophobia, ugly reactionary fear-mongering. At one point, Butler's character tells an assailant, get back to fuckheadistan or wherever it is you're from. That happens in a movie that came out and that was popular. People cheered in the theater.
Starting point is 01:01:41 I remember. What's that? It said people cheered in the theater i remember really no it's just the vibes of these films just sound like some guy who's like clearly has like he has a writing career but his entire perspective is just shaped by like like cursory glances at fox news right and he's just like oh yeah i get i know geopolitics man watch this shit man yeah fucking they're dirty and he's the hero and that's it yeah so do they do the bad guys in this movie are they they're from from where do we know or is it fuck how to stand i i actually don't know but i don't know if it's ever treated with more. I'd love if they never say. Yeah, they're just like, yeah, no, that's actually where they're from.
Starting point is 01:02:27 He was correct. You know, movies do occasionally invent entire nations. So maybe that's what they did. I did actually misspeak earlier. White House Down is not the one with the Putin-Russia election hacking plot because that came out too early for that to speak to the mega base it was actually angel has fallen the third in the series the sequel to the one where he says get back to the fuckheadistan angel has fallen was criticized for uh lionizing trump while also like making him a villain. But the villain turns out to be Morgan Freeman's vice president who wants to
Starting point is 01:03:07 go to war with Russia and make America strong again. But then it turns out that like Morgan Freeman, the former Obama stand in was secretly elected thanks to Russian interference. So it's like, so really we're all bad, man. Everybody just needs to show up. They photoshopped Morgan Freeman in to like an image with Putin.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah, that was the last scene of the movie to be like, he smoothed it over and everything's good. That's cool. We also need to talk about Geostorm, which is a disaster movie supposedly about climate change. But the real villain turns out to be a Democratic president's incompetence and also his secretary of state who straight up sabotaged the futuristic satellites that could fix climate change in order to attack America's enemies. So climate change isn't solved by humanity altering its destructive behavior, but rather a magic gizmo invented by dr gerard butler all right but i feel like that that is a thing that like i think in the future people will look back on these movies that came out at this time and be like oh they just thought that oh we can just tech techno wizardry something up and it's gonna fix climate change like. In the world of the movies that take place at this time,
Starting point is 01:04:26 the action movies, it doesn't really make sense that climate change would be a threat because we are able to fix everything with technology. There's no way Tony Stark wouldn't fix climate change in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I'm just reading about the guy who wrote angel has fallen he he started the karate kid franchise oh wow like back in 84 yeah it was apparently that guy it was based on his own life because he got beat up by bullies in night at the
Starting point is 01:05:02 1964 new y World's Fair. And then he started learning martial arts to defend himself. But anyway, so that guy is a guy who got beat up by bullies, sought the help of an Okinawan karate teacher, and now produces wine on his vineyards. So it's a story that all's well that ends well. Oh, my God, Jack. look at the guy who wrote look at the guy who wrote fucking london has fallen and white like olympus has fallen his name is creighton rothenberger yeah there that looks like the face of someone who goes like oh
Starting point is 01:05:40 god like poor people are disgusted like he's like, there's, that looks like a face incapable of understanding anything beyond, like, his own desires, which is, sometimes it's nice when people are, wear it that transparently on the outside of their face. Those are some shiny veneers. That guy's got a little fence in his mouth. Yeah, Jamie would have been, she's already analyzing the veneer game on this guy.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Well, Sarah, as always, such a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Instagram at Sara2BotherYou, S-A-R-A2BotherYou. You can go to my website, SaraJune.online, and on both of those,
Starting point is 01:06:19 you will find links to my short film, Bathroom Time, which was a Vimeo staff pick last year and is playing some more festivals so you can go watch it on the internet for free there you go you're welcome also go watch is it bird is that his bird yeah yeah bird is so good oh thanks jack yeah really funny and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying oh absolutely i really enjoyed uh this tweet from at quarto core it is um at quarto core uh rick and morty creator being an awful person is like 9-11 for smoke shops it was my first thought oh my god i was like what is santee alley going to do like every smoke shop is every there's murals in my neighborhood i'm like they're gonna have to change the mural
Starting point is 01:07:11 there's yeah i'm pretty sure they're not and everyone's just gonna be like yeah we're actually good with this now i don't know dude it seems like some amber herd type stuff which i've already seen like in the the comments of like their rick and morty fans already trying to dismiss it all but yeah i that was i think there's a i went to a head shop in burbank which i think like they lead with rick and morty graphics like on the outside of their like they have like graphics on the windows where it's like yeah dude get your fucking rick and morty grinders and dab rigs in here. Hell yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:07:49 Some tweets I like. First, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Also, check me out and check out on Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Our basketball podcast. Also, find me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we complain about 90 Day Fiance uh some tweets i like
Starting point is 01:08:06 first one is from uh at our ally maynard uh at miss m-a-y-n tweeted my theory is suburbanites fucking love disney world because it's their chance to enjoy walkable dining and entertainment experiences with convenient mass transit without having to see homeless people yeah that might that might actually be it uh then another one at who are man this display name oh at blaze 4490 tweeted so apparently the numbers on the toaster are in minutes for the last 33 years i thought it was for different levels of toastiness and sir so the fuck did i wait a minute how the fuck would i know what three minutes i don't know i'm like yeah i want my shit level three yeah level three level three toasty this is this is fucking me up it's it fucked me up so bad i'm like why are they presuming i know
Starting point is 01:08:58 what a minute of toasting looks like why wouldn't they would they write minute on there? Right. I don't know. Or just an M. I don't know. I don't know, and I don't like this. I don't know! This is all fucked up. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that information. I'm gonna choose. My brain has
Starting point is 01:09:20 rejected it, unfortunately. You know what? I'm gonna go watch Angel Has Fallen. Right. Ian Faria tweeted, I was just mugged in Park Slope by two beautiful parents and their gifted children. Find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
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Starting point is 01:09:55 Yo, I just read that. That's bullshit. The minutes thing? Yeah. There is some rubbish going around on the internet about how the numbers on these toaster dials are actually meant. Okay, you know what? When an English person says it with their chest out like that, I'm gonna believe it.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah, they love toast, too. That's my own confirmation bias. Like, I know I didn't fuck up that bad with the toaster thing. I know that's not right. Anyway, what's a song that I like? Well, this is actually a compilation or an album called star point tactics from this producer 3dmg and i think this is a german producer and like label but they make really dope like lo-fi hip-hop and this is just a really uh you know wonderful wonderful uh like
Starting point is 01:10:43 remix of Ghostface Kill It called Mighty Deadly. For my people who really know. Shake that body, body, that guy. Anyway, and this is like, again, the beats are boom bap, lovely, and it feels like, I don't know, it feels like an old
Starting point is 01:10:58 DJ Shadow mixtape or something. I don't know. I'll fuck with it. Check this out. Mighty Deadly 3DMG. All right. We'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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