The Daily Zeitgeist - BBQ Burnt Trends 12/4: Jay-Z, Euphoria, WEED, LL Cool J

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

On this edition of BBQ Burnt Trends Jack and Miles discuss today being Jay-Z's 51st birthday, Euphoria dropping a 2-part holiday special, the MORE act passes the House more or less along party lines, ...and Twitter is recounting the tale of LL Cool J wearing a FUBU hat during a GAP commercial. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Renee Stubbs, and I'm obsessed with sports, especially tennis. Tune into my podcast each week to hear me and my friends in the community break down the latest matches, including the US Open. Plus, hear from some of the biggest names in the sport about what the future holds. It's about belief, and once you break through that, then you know you can win a Grand Slam. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast every Monday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever
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Starting point is 00:02:22 That's the first time a show title just kind of derailed me for a second. And I'm just thinking about food. I'm like, I need to eat. Anyway, yes. Burnt ends. Delish. That mixture of kind of char with the fatty of the beef. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I can feel it. I can taste it. Let's talk about what is trending, shall we? Okay, let's do that. Okay. On the mind. Look at that. How about that?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Jay-Z is trending. Today is his 51st birthday. It's also the 51-year. Fred Hampton is trending because it's the 51 year anniversary of his murder. Uh, he was murdered by the FBI, uh, which started hearing about co-intel pro. Yeah, that's right. Oh, it's like the government was identifying leaders who were fighting for equality. Anyway, it's a, that's, that's a very interesting overlap. You'd think
Starting point is 00:03:26 that maybe you'd wish Jay had a little bit of Fred Hampton in him. Maybe that NFL decision would have gone a different direction. The Fred Hamptons. So Jay-Z mentioned Born on the Day Fred Hampton Died and the song Murdered Excellence from Watch the Thrones.
Starting point is 00:03:43 But Born on the Day Fred Hampton Dpton died like saying he died is a little bit a little passive Jay when he was assassinated by the FBI well at the end of the day Jay's told people he's a capitalist you know so you can't really expect much from someone who's like entire career
Starting point is 00:03:57 is like look I'll take three dollars and make it five billion dollars that's my thing but Fred Hampton Jr. was like this called him slave Slave G or Slave Z, and said that, criticized him for invoking his father's name and not saying he was assassinated. Fair, fair, fair.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Yeah, yeah. Jay-Z though, wow. What a life, huh? 51 years young. Yeah. And you think Fred Hampton died when he was 21 or not that he died he was murdered assassinated when he was 21 years old and that whole thing is murky as i mean like obviously we know the chicago pd murdered him and it was all coordinated under
Starting point is 00:04:36 this program but my god yeah is it 13th that talks about that that was a concerted strategy to rob the black community of their leadership by assassinating them? Do they discuss? Man, it's been so long since I watched 13th. But I feel like any documentary talking about anything to do with the push for racial justice has to mention that if you're going to be respons responsibly describing the environment where black activists are operating in yeah but just the idea that it was systemic um hopefully they didn't destroy all the documents so we can finally one day just point to them and be like see are you are you mad that trump remember he said he had all these JFK documents he was going to release early on? Yeah. Whatever happened, they never dropped.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I mean, promises made, promises broken, as we all know. Yeah. I do feel like that would have tainted it a little bit, because then you can't really trust anything that's coming out from the Trump administration. Also, I know who did it now. Oh, yeah, we already know. But anyway, tune in next week for that cliffhanger. George Bush Sr. Euphoria is trending.
Starting point is 00:05:56 They're dropping a two-part holiday special, which I think is an underrated move for TV shows in this streaming era of ours. Yeah, taking a book out of, like, I feel like UK series do that sometimes. an underrated move for TV shows in this streaming era of ours. Taking a book out of like, I feel like UK series do that. Yeah. Black Mirror did it and had a couple of really good episodes drop.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah. But it makes sense because like in the streaming era, era, error, uh, in the streaming era, the shows like, remember making a murder came out, like I think it was over Thanksgiving break maybe.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And like everybody. Christmas I think 2015 going into 16. Yeah. And everybody just watched that shit. It coincided with me being very dismissive of Donald Trump's campaign. I was like, yeah, I'm making more of that. Yeah. This guy was like, this guy's got too many negatives.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Don't worry. Don't worry guys. Fuck. Nate Silver says it's cool. But anyways, let's get more holiday. My understanding of the Euphoria holiday special, more melancholy than merry. Oh, no. That's a direct quote from the New York Post review of it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 How do they go hand in hand at all? I mean, is it meant to be a holiday special or they're just doing something around this time and it's euphoria content? Probably just, but I mean, I guess if you have a two-episode story arc, then maybe you're just like, why don't we drop it around the holiday?
Starting point is 00:07:24 Right. i couldn't imagine it's like taking place during you know the holidays and like these kids are like fucking drugged out of their minds at like the dinner table and you know but the holidays are a tough time for you know right but that's like is that the best content to put out when already like you're counteracting like a dark period for this across the world you know in general but i don't know whatever it's not like i'm saying euphoria is responsible for the well-being of earth no i blame you for you um all right well yeah yeah you're like uh you're like that my neighbor who's uh the 63 year old woman who's always petitioning outside of our
Starting point is 00:08:00 street with a euphoria is the devil's work sign uh but yeah shout out to anybody who's struggling with addiction this is uh when we usually see a big influx coming into the rooms people are happy to help uh so yeah it's not it's not hopeless there's people out there who are dealing with the exact same shit as you uh yeah yeah and. And a community to help, too. Yeah, exactly. Weed is trending. Weed? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Weed, weed, weed.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Why is weed trending? Oh, man. Weed, cannabis, THC, more act. They're all trending because House of Representatives side of Congress passed a a bill 228 to 164 mostly on party lines uh to help decriminalize weed it's called the marijuana opportunity reinvestment and expungement act uh and basically saying removing cannabis from the you know federally controlled substances list and then also facilitates canceling of low-level federal convictions and arrests that are related to marijuana. Also creates an excise tax on cannabis sales. Obviously, like most states
Starting point is 00:09:11 that are doing it legally, directs the money to be targeted to communities adversely affected by the war on drugs. I mean, I like what is being said on paper, but hopefully that will actually come into practice. And as well as adds um, adds incentives for like minority owned businesses to get into the cannabis market. Cause I think a lot of the thing people talk about, especially around cannabis legalization is it's been such an illegal, it's been a, you know, banned substance, uh, and people of color have taken the brunt of it when it was, you know, a banned substance or illegal. And now that it's there, we have we cannot forget about like what
Starting point is 00:09:45 the effects were on this war on drug and the ability to allow people to find an opportunity in these spaces too so uh you know we'll see what happens in the senate uh but you know the republicans are very much just looking at it very narrowly as you can imagine because anything that's restorative to uh you know address any of the shortcomings of policy is like, oh, what are we going to do? Just give people free blank or let people out of jail because we fucked up and had barbaric drug policies in a fucking war. We love whatever. So but 228 to 164 is pretty like that's pretty resounding, right? I mean, it's on party.
Starting point is 00:10:23 They did get uh five republicans five republicans came through okay uh to vote with them six democrats said no so you know i think those that's it that's a good sign to see like who you're who's who's mobile in terms of going across the aisle there uh but yeah it's i think like like most people are seeing states are just sort of taking the charge on their own now because they see that you know obviously there's still a huge piece missing on how to correct like the the restorative justice aspects of it and correcting the drug war parts of it and the people have been locked up when uh during prohibition of cannabis from a legislative
Starting point is 00:11:01 standpoint it's like it's a whole new revenue stream like just tax this shit and now we're we're we're creating more revenue to do things but it's really you want these bills made that it's predefined it's not like the governor decides that this is part of a movement to rehabilitate these communities right and what what be the, so if the legislation passes and you know, the, like, is there something that says that just makes it available for people to appeal and like get their record expunged or like, is there some automatic trigger that would help people who are in prison for. I don't know the fine, fine language of it, but essentially it's opening the door for that process to begin, and it might not be as difficult. But this is just the top-line version,
Starting point is 00:11:55 so until we kind of really dig in, I don't have the full, full picture. But at the very least, I think just to take this as a moment where marijuana legalization is starting to percolate a little bit more on the Hill. Yeah. And finally, Miles, let's open and close uh today's show with some old ass rappers uh ll cool j is trending why is he trending i actually don't know on twitter he's trending and it's apparently because i mean hold on to your butts. Regan Gomez, if you remember her, the famed performer from the 90s, I think she was on what the,
Starting point is 00:12:32 was it Townsend? The Parenthood. Okay. That's where I remember her from and many other things. She was tweeting about that. I don't know if you remember in the 90s, there was that LL Cool J Gap commercial
Starting point is 00:12:43 where he's wearing the white shirt and he's rapping on the, you know, like when the Gap was doing those white background ads and people were just wearing Gap jeans. Oh, right, right. Well, they're talking about it because he was wearing a FUBU hat during that Gap ad. And it's just kind of a legendary marketing story because FUBU, if you don't know, for people who aren't familiar, was the brand For Us, Buy Us, black-owned fashion brand. And it basically came to this moment with LL Cool J appearing in this Gap commercial. He basically hijacked a Gap commercial to be a FUBU ad and even said the words For Us, Buy Us in the lyrics of this Gap ad. And people were associating that with something you could buy at the gap.
Starting point is 00:13:25 So people were coming to the gap, be like, Hey, do you have FUBU? Like from the commercial? And they're like, what the gap people didn't think twice about his hat when he was wearing it.
Starting point is 00:13:33 What? Absolutely. No. And I just didn't notice. I think it's just that. I mean, we've seen the decisions that have come out of the marketing offices of these brands.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Like there's a lot of group think going on there and a lot of not a lot of nuance when it comes to race or what anything so i have a feeling they were just very dismissive right like yeah let him wear his little hat who cares and then yeah and then cut to boom uh here's ll cool j uh with some with a little little subversive advertising for you yeah Yeah. Hey, working within the system. Exactly. There you go. Just like Jay-Z would have us do. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:13 What's LL Cool J? Where's he at in his political journey? Starring on NCIS, right? Isn't he on that show? Oh, yeah. Right. I think he's reading Engels or anything. Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Almost definitely. He's in the lab based on his performance seems very informed by socialism uh on ncis absolutely yeah yeah uh we i mean doubtless uh all right miles that's the week man uh we are back on monday with a whole ass episode of the show uh until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Wear a mask. Wash your hands.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Stay inside. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. Have a great weekend. We will talk to you all on Monday. Bye. Bye. I'm Renee Stubbs, and I'm obsessed with sports, especially tennis. Tune into my podcast each week to hear me and my friends in the community
Starting point is 00:15:12 break down the latest matches, including the US Open. Plus hear from some of the biggest names in the sport about what the future holds. It's about belief, and once you break through that, then you know you can win a Grand Slam. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast every Monday on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, fam, I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with Latin Grammy winner, author, and TV personality,
Starting point is 00:15:49 Chiquis, about raising her younger siblings after the death of her mother, singer Jenny Rivera. I would do it over and over again. All of that has molded me to become the woman that I am today. Like, I wouldn't change anything. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.
Starting point is 00:16:16 All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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