The Daily Zeitgeist - Best Music & Movies Of 2022
Episode Date: December 29, 2022In this holiday special, Jack and Miles are joined by super producers Anna Hossnieh and Becca Ramos to talk about the best music and movies of the year 2022.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inf...ormation.
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Zeitgeist. It's a production of iHeartRadio. And this is the episode where we're cramming in two eps in one baby get ready we're
just really jamming it in like some of my favorite movies this year which really packed a lot in uh
this year yeah yeah this year i'm jack that's miles yeah and this year just that's called a
tease you're gonna get to hear him say this year and then put thoughts
after that pretty soon.
We also have super producer Anna Hosnier.
Hi, Anna.
Hello.
And we're also thrilled to be joined by
super producer Becca Ramos.
Hello.
I had to do it with you.
I had to do it with you, Becca.
Hello.
Hello.
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Ana Jose in the building.
It's so wild.
We were all talking about like, I don't know if I even saw a movie.
And all of us like, oh, yeah, I saw that.
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
I only went to the theater for Elvis.
Everything, everywhere, all at once in Jurassic World. Everything else I saw
on streaming. Well those were the three best movies
so you did it right. Yeah yeah yeah
Yeah I think in theaters I only saw
actually I saw quite a few of these in theaters
I saw Nope in theaters, Spider-Man in theaters
Everywhere Everywhere, Everything Everywhere
All at Once. Everywhere Everywhere Everywhere
and Batman
I think are the movies I saw and I saw
the new Black Panther. Yeah. Okay. I think those are the movies I saw. And I saw the new Black Panther.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think those are all the ones.
So Becca, you and I have a similar in our top five here.
You're the only person who actually like went through and made a list.
But I only made it to movies.
I didn't make it to the other things.
I mean, I could only force myself into remembering four films I saw
and then jarred it with a list of like Netflix listings.
So you have at number one, which is probably my number one or like, you know, top top three everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, everywhere, everything, everywhere, all at once.
Absolutely.
Hands down.
I have that.
He's in the decade.
Yeah, it's really I think it's inarguable this was the
movie of the zeitgeist this year like just a movie that came out of nowhere and was massively
successful without like a huge marketing budget it was just everybody was telling
it's all everyone else about it all at once um and it just blew up it was one of those things where you had to ask people
like hey did you see everything everywhere all at once absolutely and they're like no like you have
you like that was the thing i'd be like you have you have to go go see that shit go see that shit
go see that i mean it's a movie that made me really be like gosh that's why i love movies
you know like it's the first time i felt inspired watching a movie in a long time in the sense of
like inspired by art and cinema and what the
medium is, I was like,
this is why we go to the movies. Not to be
cheesy like Nicole Kidman ad
vibes, but this is why we
come to the movies. That's how I
felt watching it. It inspired me to
go back to karate class, getting my
first green stripe on my white belt
for some of the fighting that happened in that.
What was your best movie, Emma?
I know you're over here being like, what did I see this year?
I don't know. I feel like movies failed this year in a way.
I just feel like I didn't hear or see a lot of film or hear about.
I always thought my big example is Black Adam, which I finally watched.
like black adam which i finally watched and i felt like it's so strange that a movie that stars like notably one of the biggest stars in the world outside of michael jordan uh the rock i feel
like it should have like the rock is finally playing a superhero and i feel like i wasn't
like um in a way like beat to death with marketing and advertisement for it you know like i feel like
it slipped by in a way that was like oh my god did you hear black adam anyway and that was like
surprising for me because i'm like but it's the rock like we all like we love the rock
we love the rock i've been falling it and this is something that my couple's therapist and i've
been talking about i've been falling out of love with the rock for the past four or five years.
I see a couple therapists just about my relationship with the rock.
And,
uh,
it's been,
it's been rocky these past days.
Uh,
he's like de-sexualized that I think it's cause he's too vague with his
politics.
Yeah.
He's,
he's vague with his politics and like vague with his whole charisma and vibes and i just like can't anybody wakes up that early to work out and is just like
so ceaselessly positive but like it's not clear what they're positive about like i don't know
it's just right he he's starting to weird me out a little bit huh and i think for a movie like black adam where he is a
superhero i think he just wanted to be a superhero like he wasn't embodying the like the dc comic
character that is black adam like he was like i the rock deserve to be revered as a superhero
and i'm gonna be a superhero but he made it very clear that he did not want to be a part of the Shazam movie that's coming out,
which like Black Adam is a supervillain to Shazam.
So it is just like,
I think also part of,
in terms of like comic book land,
he did not respect the genre in a sense
or respect like the comic book lore
in the way that like a lot of these marvel you know
superheroes and villains embody those characters like actually like you know i mean that's disney's
policing too of like this is what we want the cinematic universe to look like but dc doesn't
have that same realm or you know like hold on their universe i think as you know disney does
with marvel so i think that's a big part of it too is that like he just didn't want to play the game
that is to be a superhero
like he's like no I'm the rock
yeah he's not a superhero he's the rock
and he would have made more money if he came out with a movie
that was about the rock
I'm not even joking
if there was a The Rock movie
where he just had superpowers
or like if it's just
it's called like young rock isn't it
or like if you like sort of
play within the reality of him when
he was the wrestling character like the rock
like I feel like more people be like
oh my god this like if he did
the unbearable weight of talent
type thing that Nicolas Cage did but
it was about the rock people would beat
that shit up people would like the weird
owl biopic.
Yeah, he's too self-serious, I think.
I mean, he has a sense of humor,
but to your point,
the Black Adam felt like,
here I am now.
I guess, yeah,
I guess DC does not have a good grasp
of what they're doing.
The DC universe is a mess.
It's such a mess.
They just blew it up, right?
They had a structured demolition
fairly recently.
What's his name?
What's his name? Cavill?
Henry Cavill!
But he did agree to come back.
But that doesn't make sense.
Well, this is all...
None of it makes sense.
But he also is at the end of Black Adam
showing up as Batman.
Wait, what is he? Superman.
That would be wild if he showed up as
batman and they were like it's clearly superman it's so confusing but he's like drunk and he just
put the costume on it's like it's me batman they're like henry man get the fuck off camera man
so i just want to say because anna and i do kind of have this ongoing conversation where she's streaming. I am more of a movie person and I actually think movies had a great year and
that movies kind of figured out what they do better than they have it.
Or at least for me,
it became clear,
like,
I don't know.
Movies are not just short streaming series and streaming series are not just
long movies.
Like everything everywhere all at once are, are, are, are are are just these like maximalist things that they just it's like the
whole thing is a is the finale of a firework show it's just everything all the synapses are firing
the whole time that you're watching it and those were both movies that i felt like had a lot of
energy this year a lot of energy this year.
A lot of people were excited.
I'm not saying every movie has to be that,
but it does feel like movies found a second wind because of things like that.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
You said we talk about this a lot.
We don't talk about it a lot.
No,
the theme of the show,
though,
I would agree.
Like,
on a streaming corner,
you know?
Yeah,
yeah.
I mean,
I enjoy streaming. You're right, because you feel the prestige is there. I just don't think movies do would agree. Like, on a streaming corner, you know? Yeah, yeah. Like, you are a TV. I enjoy streaming.
You're right, because you feel the prestige is there.
I just don't think movies do it anymore.
Like, they don't give us enough.
It's not that interesting.
They're just, like, rebooting the same thing over and over and over again.
To that point, that's probably why Everything Everywhere All at Once was so refreshing,
because it wasn't based on existing IP, and it was just so...
The idea itself was kind of went against all the
traditional thinking of the kinds of films that are developed by studios and you're like oh wow
they trusted these two creators to just book and go off like that is really how you know that's how
you're gonna get these more creative projects but um what else was there what else maverick
the top gun maverick movie uh maverick was very fun very i mean i heard
so many good things i didn't catch it in theaters i was a little bummed but i think that's okay
it was political propaganda and also of course it was so apparently rrr is like really like
problematic propaganda in india like i i just don't know all the details of the forces at work,
but yeah.
So,
so as Maverick,
Top Gun Maverick was definitely political propaganda,
but also a very good time at the movies.
I think it's more interesting,
like all the sort of stories you hear afterward about how like Tom Cruise
wants you to die for every role you do in a movie of his
and yeah oh yeah i think is more problematic than the actual like propaganda of it all because i'm
not joining the air force but i'm kind of like you should get jet fuel poisoning like what are
you talking about how is that okay wait what happened yeah you know remember that article
that came out where like Miles Teller He got like
he got like jet fuel poisoning
and like had to be hospitalized.
And then like he came back
I hang on the side of the airplane.
Why can't you hang
on the side of the airplane?
Yeah.
You know,
he came back.
He told Tom Cruise.
Tom Cruise was like,
welcome, man.
That's how it goes.
Basically,
his reaction was like,
same bro.
Get used to it.
And it's like,
that's not okay.
That's not okay. You shouldn't have to get jet fuel poisoning. like, same, bro. Get used to it. And it's like, that's not okay. That's not okay.
You shouldn't have to get jet fuel poisoning.
Oh, he had jet.
You say he had jet fuel in his blood.
Yeah.
Jet fuel in his bloodstream.
Like, that's not.
That sounds like some shit.
That sounds like some shit Tom Cruise would look at you and go, that's right, man.
In your blood.
This is how I was born with jet fuel in my bloodstream.
Really absurd.
Like, you know, like, yeah, like, I have it in my blood right now.
And it makes me strong.
Something that you're like, whoa, you need help.
Yeah.
Because that's not okay, in my opinion.
You shouldn't force a person. Like, the fact that he was like, you have to be down to actually be in these planes and actually flying them.
It's like, I'm an actor.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm not acting.
Wasn't that that other headline
that other headline too or like emily blunt said like on edge of tomorrow he was like don't be a
pussy to her because she was talking about like one of the like the costume was like super fucking
heavy and that was him like just snapping back at her about it he was like sorry i just heard
that phrase for the first time i don't i, I'm using it with everyone. Um,
he's like,
why are you trying to live?
You're like,
Hey,
jump out this plane with me with like,
no shoot.
And let's just fucking see what happens.
Maybe we'll die.
I don't know.
Maybe we'll live.
See,
that's like,
I get it.
We love Tom.
Wow.
He's so crazy.
He doesn't sound.
He's sitting on top of the,
uh,
uh,
Dubai.
We love Tom.
That's the energy people give off.
We all love Tom Cruise, Becca. This guy is trying to kill people. We love Tom Cruise. That's the energy people give off. We all love Tom Cruise, Becca.
This guy is trying to kill people.
Or himself. Or it's all like the king of
Scientology. Did you see the other one,
Anna, where he jumped out the helicopter over
South Africa for the Mission Impossible thing?
The latest one. And it's the same energy of like,
Hey, I'm dying inside!
Later!
It just falls out of a plane.
He's on a plane
and he's like hanging off the top of the plane
and the audio is so gargled
and it's like this isn't worth it
okay here I go
and then the plane like mirrors away
and you're like okay did he die
that was the thing that
when I was watching the helicopter one I was like
wait I've seen this before he basically just ran it back from a previous one right he's always somewhere higher
yeah but he's always somewhere being like hey man it's me bye basically the gist of every tom
cruise thing and it's like wow he really almost died he's gonna be like yeah i am at the top of a volcano that's erupting and i'm going inside it
oh okay those volcanologists have no idea the power within these volcanoes
xenu told us what is inside of these and i will unleash its power bye-bye that would be great if
that's how he went out just one of these like weird little yeah because of the zinu just and i have such faith
that i'm jumping into the volcano oh no tom that's not what we discussed just bones that's all
unnecessary in my opinion not me i want people to die for my entertainment uh soon enough that's
i feel like within two years tlc will be showing people dying in slow motion as like a reality show.
I mean, don't put it past them.
I think the only person who should be allowed to die during filming is like a jackass person.
What do you mean?
What do you mean allowed to die?
I think that's what I'll be like.
That was pretty crazy.
But like, that was like, they did what they love.
I can't be mad at it.
They're like, I mean, he should have known.
He wanted to light a fart underwater that imploded the entire tank.
He wanted that.
And I'm supposed to be upset?
No, God bless.
He's smart.
Check out forever.
You guys all saw that, right?
Check out forever.
I'm eating an apple.
Did you say check off forever?
Check off forever. I didn't want to see it it's definitely
like that is my least favorite genre of thing is the jack the jack off movies
oh yeah as an elder millennial i it was calling me and i watched yeah same i was seeing the
originals back in the day but you know i'm good I'm good. I still haven't seen this one.
I don't think I've seen any of the movies end to end.
It's not as much as a bummer as I thought it would be.
They threaded the needle there.
But at the end, you're like, damn.
That is a resounding endorsement for a comedy movie.
Well, and part of me, at that point, you're like, look at Johnny Knoxville, dude.
He has like CTE probably and all this.
Like, just put himself through it.
No question.
You know, and then you're like,
and you're like,
y'all are getting the gang back together one more time.
I had like, I got nervous when they announced it.
And then when I saw it, I was like,
I was like, what could this be?
Yeah, it's whatever.
At the end of the day.
Best poster of the year.
I can say that.
Best movie poster of the year.
Some people never learn.
And then him just being shot out of a cannon
with angel wings on.
Yeah.
Classic.
All right.
Let's take a quick break.
We'll come back.
We're going to talk about,
nope.
We're going to talk some other movies that came out this year.
Some that we didn't like as much.
And then we're going to talk about some music,
I guess the Kendrick album the whole time.
Cause that's really the only new music that I listened to.
Um,
I just heard this new Toto album.
That's sick,
but it's from like 84.
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network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back and all right, another one that we have in common in our top five, Becca.
Yeah, Nope was my top three.
I put it on there, not that I felt like it was my favorite movie,
but I felt like it was new IP, which I really appreciated.
I love Kiki Palmer.
And obviously, big fan of all of Jordan Peele's work.
I feel like it's been really hard
to recreate the magic that was Get Out
when Get Out came out.
Because I would say Get Out is in, like,
my top five favorite movies of all time.
Yeah.
But, you know, Us was a little disappointing to me.
I didn't like Us as much.
But I really liked Nope.
I thought it was really fun,
especially me as someone who doesn't really love,
like, sci-fi worlds.
I thought it was a great venture in the sci-fi.
It was like not too long.
It was obviously like an incredibly artful movie.
So that's why it's my top three.
Yeah.
I had like the images that stuck with me longer than anything.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
So the costumes that came out of it for Halloween were very fun.
I saw people make giant alien spaceships and the flags and the ladders come out of them.
It was,
it was great to watch.
Oh shit.
Oh,
that's,
yeah,
that's a pretty in depth.
And it's exactly what I want it.
Like,
because I,
I like being excited about filmmakers and like,
it's the movie that I was like,
yes,
like that,
that is the perfect movie everything about that is
like awesome and it's like amazing in like a new direction that i hadn't seen him do i don't know
i know nope is amazing people definitely should have seen it on the big screen but yeah i didn't
catch it on there caught on my tv though and i turned the volume real loud and it still hit decent it was just
I thought it was really it was real fun
it was like very
tense when it needed to be and like
in these very subtle ways I mean that those whole
flashbacks with Steven Yeun when he's like a
kid on the set of that show those
that shit but
more than anything I was like
shit this fucking part
always like I'm getting goosebumps
just thinking about that.
That part had me really stressed out.
Yeah.
That might be the best, like,
five minutes of any movie this year,
I think is my opinion.
The chimp turning up.
Yeah, that shit was, whoo.
Yeah.
Anna, what'd you think about Nope?
I enjoyed it.
I like...
I mean, I haven't seen Us.
Too scaly.
But I do like basically anything Jordan Peele puts out that's not too scaly for me.
But I really enjoyed Nope.
That is a quote on the poster for the movie.
Too scaly.
From the visionary mind of Get Out.
And then in quotes, too scaly yeah no but i i mean like you
know like get out nope all of them um other than the too scaly one i really enjoy like i really
can't you can't go wrong i feel like his mind is so interesting like even from like the um oh my
gosh the new twilight zone series he did that was really good that was great i enjoyed
that so much and i'm sorry to bring it back to streaming i know i'm sick i'm sick he could do
a movie about me i'm so sick in the head but anyway you would bring the movie about you back
to some streaming show unrelated sorry what are you pitching to us anna it's about me and i'm
sick with it but i love coming back to streaming what? sick with streaming disorder
no but yeah I just really enjoy anything
he makes and so
I really I can't go wrong like
people have critiques of like well this one's better than
this one I was like it's all different he just has
like so much going on in that
fascinating mind of his
that I can't help but enjoy it
I just I
can't wait to see what he does next.
And I will be first in line
to be, well, depending if it's
too scaly.
I will be first in line if it is too scaly.
Too scaly?
I'm like you, when it's too scaly?
My mind is
scaly enough.
I don't need help.
I gotta shout out uh barbarian
which came out this year wait question was that um written and directed by one of the
whitest kids you know yeah it was written direct by one of the ways could you know i just learned
that that's starring somebody that we had on the show uh the day before i saw the movie and uh very
embarrassed in retrospect of the questions we asked him.
Yeah. So what's up
about this Barber?
This movie about a barber?
Bar-bar-bar-bar-bar-bar.
It's about Bar-bar-bar-bar-bar.
What's the elephant?
The little elephant?
Babar?
So Babar, he
joins up with the Aryan Brotherhood?
Oh no.
Oh no.
This guy's like, what?
I do just want to say there are two movies that also suggest to me this is the year of maximalism
because of how bad they are, but how much everyone is fucking with them.
Elvis is on all these top 10 lists and was a certified hit.
It's the fucking Oscar marketing. I swear to God. Because why is it on all these top 10 lists and was like a certified hit.
It's the fucking Oscar marketing.
I swear to God. Cause like,
why is it on all these top 10 lists?
I was like,
I thought this was a bad movie.
It's because of the,
the what's his name?
The Austin Butler of it.
Austin Butler.
But like everybody went and saw it.
Like,
like not everybody,
but a lot of,
yeah,
I guess that's true.
But it's just so much it's i think that's what
it is i also saw a movie uh babylon that is like i walked out of it i was like man what a stinker
like is that guy gonna ever work again damien chazelle and then i think it'll be fine yeah i
went and read the reviews and everyone fucking loves it. But it's again, it's like, there's cool shit in it.
There's so much of it.
There's so,
so much of it.
And like,
that's what it's just like,
there's so,
so much of it.
It is the most movie I've ever gone to see.
I mean,
we're going to go full maximalist in 2023 with a Barbie movie.
And I am stoked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Barbie movie definitely looks maximalist and definitely looks like it's going I am stoked. Yeah. Yeah. The Barbie movie
definitely looks maximalist
and definitely looks like
it's going to be a hit
and one that I enjoy.
I'm very excited.
I think Elvis was also like
really forced
down our throats,
you know?
And it's continuing
to be forced down our throats
with all this fucking
Oscar shit.
It's so stupid.
Then you got like
Austin Butler being like,
oh, so I never spoke
to my family again
after doing this role
and they reported me
missing to the police
and then on SNL
they made him sing
Blue Christmas
that was crazy
oh my god
he's like oh I really can't
oh hell
for blue
I shouldn't
I really
Christmas
without you
I was like they really
got him singing
Blue Christmas
and he screamed at me I really shouldn't oh I really without you. I was like, they really got him singing Blue Christmas.
That's really me.
I really shouldn't. Oh, I really...
My psychiatrist says I have to stop.
I put that behind all of the room.
His psychiatrist
is like, please, dude.
Thank you very much.
Thank you very much.
I even married a teenager to get in the role.
He's like, oh no, I'm back.
I can't lose it again.
It was wild too because look, we all went to that movie together
to be like, yo, this looks like straight trash
that we can laugh our way through
like a fever dream.
And then again, I remember coming out of it
and other people were like, yeah, it wasn't that bad.
And I was like, can you tell me, good person of earth,
what your description of why
you liked it? And they're like, it was fun.
And blah, blah, blah. I was like, why you liked it they're like it was fun and blah blah
blah i was like were you not put off by like the like just the whitewashing over of like
all the shit that's wrong with elvis like it was truly being like it's called ignoring it
yeah it's a it's a celeb and someone's like it's a celebration of elvis i was like all right man i
can't even y'all are not serious it's like he married a teenager And then he would kiss other women on the lips
I mean, why don't you guys understand?
That part was wild
There was some good information in there
About him kissing other women on the lips
In front of his wife
And her being like, ha ha ha
I am gonna divorce this fool for everything he has
Just kissing every woman on the lips
But I get it
Shout out to, what's her name?
Priscilla? Priscilla. Priscilla.
Priscilla. She literally was like,
mm-hmm, I'm gonna take you for half,
bitch. Like, she knew. She knew.
She's like, this fool's gonna die of a heart attack
and then I'm gonna fucking have this guy's
damn empire. Hey, you want any more fried
peanut sandwiches?
Yeah, get him what he wants. Let him kiss
whoever he wants. Jesus Christ. Have another bite, LV christ you can see it in her eyes she was
like she's like i'm in control yeah she was like yeah yeah also that was also the beginning of
like didn't that kick off the weird tom hanks roles too yeah this year like yes yes because
pinocchio came out and i did not see it. But I will put that on my
worst, even though I didn't even see it. I'm like,
there's no way that movie was good. There's no way.
It was awful.
Tom Hanks' performance in Elvis
is, and I'm a
Hanks fan, and a lot of stuff
he's been in, big, one of my
favorite performances.
I think it's the worst
performance in anything I've ever seen absolutely
because it's because of like what it does to the movie it's distracting it makes the movie not make
sense it adds an accent that makes the movie not make sense you know what someone's counterpoint
was when i brought that up to someone who loved it they said i thought it made it fun
i was like you know i gotta hang
out with this person what is this accent even it's like i don't know but it doesn't matter
and i'm like it was so confusing it made me angry the whole time i was like it could be
you're supposed to not be american but you're from louisiana i don't get it what is this right
because he's like dutch right uh but, I thought he's like a Polish,
like Eastern European accent.
He was supposed to be a con man who had convinced everyone he was from
the South West Virginia.
Yeah.
He called himself the colonel was convincing everyone he's Southern,
but the whole movie,
he talks like,
like in a accent like this i'm the snowman and
then so bad at one point in the movie the people are like and we know you're not from west virginia
you're like you know shit of course you know that he'll listen to how he talks and then you go back
and watch a video of the guy and he spoke with a southern accent yes it's like it's so confusing
because it's just it's a exaggerated it's like i's so confusing because it's just it's a it's a exaggerated it's
like i don't know because every aspect of the movie was distracting awesome butler was distracting
yeah and he only went because of that one scene where he was gyrating his hips and people's like
hair was literally shooting off their head and that went up to the height exactly as advertised
also there's a korean movie decision to leave by the guy who made Old Boy that I highly recommend people check out when it's available.
Wait, say again?
Decision to Leave.
He's mentioning good movies now for some reason.
What do you mean by Decision to Leave?
It is the title of the movie.
Oh.
It's called Decision to Leave.
It's by the filmmaker of Old Boy.
It's got a lot going on too.
It's great.
Is it like Elvis or Nope at all?
No.
Also not like Sonic 2, which is on my list of bad movies.
But this is kind of a sneaky endorsement for the first Sonic,
which was actually pretty fun.
But Sonic 2 is a wreck.
Sorry, folks.
Sorry, folks.
We should get to music, though.
We should.
But I do want to mention the rest of my list before I move on.
My top five.
Actually, before we get to the rest of your list, did we do a second ad break?
That's your job.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Well, if we didn't, let's do it now.
All right.
Let's do it now.
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Okay, before I move on to music, I do want to give my top five best, plus my honorable mention, a shout out.
Number one, Everything Everywhere All at Once, we already went over it. top five best um plus my honorable mention a shout out um number one everything everywhere
all at once we already went over it uh number two spider-man no or whatever the new spider-man
i don't think i wrote down the right name but the newest spider-man that came out this year
i think that was right no way home but no way home boys in the home this year when i googled it
did i was i wrong i think it came out in december oh maybe it did and then we all saw
it in january then i will cut it from the list to be technically correct oh yeah okay then number
three would be turning red it was so good so cute highly recommend as a pixar movie um then number
four coming in at the new father of the bride on HBO max, one of my
favorite rom-coms of all time.
Now it is a Cuban on the original.
Love it.
If you are Latino, I feel like it hits home a lot.
You're like, wow, dads are really controlling, but they love you.
And I just, uh, it makes me cry every day.
It's not a movie that should make you cry, but it makes me cry from the representation.
Um,
and then my number five is bodies,
bodies,
bodies.
I watched it on a plane recently and I actually really loved it.
It was a lot of fun.
It sounds like a lot of bodies and it goes with my maximalist theory.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a maximalist slasher film.
So this was also the year,
speaking of the Spider-Man no way home where i got off
the like i i saw that the new dr strange movie and i was like well this is no longer for me
and uh i like sam raimi i have enjoyed uh you know hit or miss like 50 50 marvel movies in the past
and i now feel like i don't i don't have to watch them anymore after that strange one i did see
spider-man no way home and thought it was fine.
I cried.
I thought it was the best.
I was like,
this is the best Spider-Man movie I've ever seen in my life.
I went back and saw it like three more times.
I loved it.
Wow.
Yeah,
you did love it.
I really did love it.
Amazing.
All right,
guys,
music 2022.
We had a Beyonce album.
We had a Kendrick album.
Those are kind of the only things that i
like went and sought out uh and then like just other otherwise just random music i heard and
shazammed i heard this other album from aerosmith called get a grip wait get a grip on what i don't
know there's a cow on it it's pretty sick so you're like gripping on the cow i it's so wild i've only there are only like a few
full albums i listened to because there was like uh they came like thick and fast i felt like over
the summer there was like a streak where there was like four weeks where like you had a lot of
homework to do caught renaissance caught mr morale big steppers caught the and see this is where i
started forgetting the names that the band that tom york is in that he put out that oh yeah smile
yeah yeah the smile smile um i caught a light for attracting attention i think it was called
i'm halfway through the new sisa album i haven't heard the whole thing yet but i'm like so far i
like what i've heard.
But yeah, I definitely... This was a year
that I was discovering a lot of music
backwards than keeping up
with all of the latest things, I must admit.
So you listened to it backwards first
and then... For the message, man.
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anna, any
music recs? I mean, I only
really listened to the new Kendrick album,
new Beyonce album.
I listened to the Maren Morris album.
I listened to Meg Thee Stallion.
And then I listened to the new Richard Cheese
Besame Queso album.
Besame Queso?
Yeah.
Kiss My Cheese?
Yeah, Jack.
Besame.
Besame Queso. Oh, like Besame Mucho. What? Besame. Besame queso.
Oh, like besame mucho.
Oh, besame queso.
So it's saying kiss me cheese.
Yes, yes, yes.
God, it's a joke.
Jesus Christ.
Kiss me cheese.
Did you guys not get parody?
No.
I was at the other day.
Karaoke with some friends.
And they were playing all these songs
and the whole time i kept thinking god the weird albion has been i think i'm just a parody music
person i think i just enjoy parody music more than actual music when i look at my like top
songs of the year like they're like again it's only those like three albums that are represented everything is just backwards like it's all from years past um so in that sense
you know i encourage listeners to always recommend things but i i usually keep up on the the main
releases i think this one artist fred again probably had a like one of these years for me
where i like it started off me being kind of interested in their music and then slowly being
like oh i really like what this person makes they seem to be having a year
not fred again yeah no indeed fred again becca hit us with the music you're young i mean i am young
come here young lady what are you listening kind of all over the place but obviously you know
renaissance was on replay in this house
she had a chokehold on my throat um so renaissance is number one for me and then probably um un verano
senti by bad bunny uh and then after that i feel like i'm like i don't know how much new music i
listen to after that um i've been catching up on the sZA album
i listened to midnights and did not like it sorry hot take and then i thought it was definitely one
of taylor swift's on the worser albums um and we already had that conversation come for me
i listened to new independent artists i mean i feel like she's been out for a little bit, but she didn't have a full album come out. I think just an EP.
Chapel Rowan.
I really liked her stuff this year.
What genre is that?
I feel like it's like indie.
Think like King Princess
vibes. Okay.
Yeah, I'm like looking through my
Spotify rap. But it's a lot of
old stuff. It's a lot of
old Beyonce. I got Maggie Rogers on my spotify wrapped but it's a lot of old stuff like it's a lot of like old beyonce uh i got
maggie rogers on here oh megan's new album i feel like that was that was good on my top list too
um yeah and the rest of it is it's a lot of old beyonce and old bad bunny and old megan
that's what i listen to it's like weird like weird old... Is Dawn FM this year?
Or Dawn AM?
Dawn FM?
Yeah.
The Weeknd is like my second most listened to artist,
so I guess I got into that a lot.
Kendrick, The Weeknd, Kevin Morby.
Anyone else?
Kevin Morby?
Seals and Crofts.
Anyone else?
No?
I actually...
The Pusha T album I listened to a lot of
that came out early this year right
yeah like it's going dry or it's drying out
what's it called
came out this year oh yeah
Moto Mami I had that I was I was gonna fuck out that
album but we'll say that Drake's albums
were the worst
those were fucking you use that to prop up
your like table that is like has a wobbly leg.
That's what those albums were this year.
Wobbly leg albums.
And also couldn't like do more to just like tank his standing with people like even more and more and more.
Like I used to be like, oh, you got a new album.
And now I'm like, man, shut the fuck up.
Like, here's a 42.
Here's my 42 engagement rings
necklaces yeah after his bullshit with the 21 savage album i was like nah like after he took
down meg for no fucking reason he let people know what side he was on you're like oh sir
you have no idea he's going in like an elon musk direction where he's just gonna like make us never
even want to fuck with his old music i don't know
because i feel like he has such a desire to be liked that he like tries really hard not to sway
but i think but we're seeing him in his pleasing like stage of career where it's like truly he's
just thinking like i think people like this and they're like what yeah and we'd ask for a club
album from you like that nobody was asking nobody thought that was
necessary i think he's probably and i think like anything too like i it may be hard for him to
switch up his formula when you've been doing it one way for so long that's what i'm saying like
hey that's why there's plenty of new artists that's why i love discovering new shit because
half the time it's like there's so many new artists that like you're always feeling like
i wish i was hearing music like this and there's like a hundred percent chance someone is making
it you just have to go find absolutely wait do you have a favorite song you recommended this year
miles my favorite song that oh man i like scotty pippen that was one of my favorite year
recommendations i don't know if that song came out this year oh yeah that that track was dope the one that you just recommended the brazilian song was super dope
oh yeah yeah yeah there's this one artist mima that i really liked didn't put out anything new
this year but this like puerto rican artist who like they're do like folkloric music but it's
a little modern but the lyrics are like actually like like they're talking about real shit um so i like that and it's wild down rodeo by fucking rage against the machine it was
like one of my top 10 played songs this year because that shit go that's maybe that y'all
listen to down rodeo by fucking rage against the machine on evil empire because that shit
fucking goes that's an example of an old song that was in the zeitgeist i think people were yeah because there was a ton of reaction
videos this year where people had clearly never heard rage against the machine and then they hear
the first fucking line of it which is i'm rolling down rodeo with a shotgun these people ain't seen
a brown-skinned man since their grandparents bought one and people were like oh my god
every reaction video like it's so funny because there's a lot
of black people who are like just starting to hear raids for the first time they're like hold up
yo what did my mans just say you rolling down rodeo with a shotgun these people ain't seen up
what it's i love it uh evil empire goaded but yeah i don't i have so many tracks i like it's so hard to do
keep track of this shit because i listen to yeah it's probably too hard for you oh i'll give the
people dj just search djgb.disney oh yeah that track goes that track goes and uh sarah
knows minor kata and then the, who's the artist of this? Keita da Jiglake na Situra.
DJ GB da Disney.
I'm sorry, I zoned
out so hard. What
is happening? I'll play it
for you later and you'll understand everything
because it's all Brazilian Portuguese.
Oh, got it. Okay, so these are artists I wouldn't have
heard of. No, no. I found this in
a TikTok because I got lost in Brazilian
TikTok about,
I think it's called
Cajeta FuraƧao or something.
It's like these buses
that go around in Brazil.
People could wear costumes
and they just turn up
dancing in the street
and people like want to
get down and dance
along the bus.
And this track was playing
on one of them
and I was like, okay.
Oh, that's fun.
Yeah.
Big Brazil vibes.
We should have done a,
and I'm sorry,
this is irrelevant really to what we're talking about on this show,
but we should have done a weird subcultures of the year that popped up episode.
Write it down for next year.
Freaky obsessions, put it in our doc.
No, I won't be here by next year.
I will have floated to heaven.
Yeah.
No, don't say that.
No, no, no, no, no.
Our consciousness will be in the clouds.
See how you're already trying to make me do work for next year?
This is what I'm talking about.
Oh, no.
All right, I'll write it down for next year? This is what I'm talking about. Oh, no. All right.
I'll write it down for next year.
Get it tatted, Jack.
I got into some weird
subcultures this year.
A little taste.
Prison wives.
Water.
Water truthers.
Oh, my God, y'all.
Actually, let's just do it
on our year in review
and review.
We'll find a...
Yeah, everyone bring
a weird obsession,
weird internet obsession
to class for the next one. Honestly, sometimes TikTok will have you being like yeah why do you have 15 kids
or you'll be like huh so you just live in a camper all year long i don't know man
the oh i'm in a crazy one right now where it's um a really really rich family that has 15 kids
and they all make music videos when they come home for the holidays.
Anyway.
And their names are all like
Paisley, Presley, Bessley, Cressley,
Tessley, Jessley, Nestle. I'm not even joking.
You think I'm joking? I'll send you a link.
I'll send you a link. Don't worry.
Hesley? Is that one?
Hesley, Gessley, Nestle, Pessley.
I'm not joking. Their names are
literally like that.
Best C.
And then they fight over who has the cleanest room in a mansion.
Anyway, these subcultures.
This is doing harm to my mental well-being.
Anna, you're going to get white people pilled or something.
Going down that rabbit hole.
You think I'm not all deep on
at nomad family?
Oh no, what the fuck is that?
It's a family that lives in a camper
year round. But like one of
those high tech campers that the second
all the sides of it pull out is a
mansion. You're like, what?
You're like, one of my kids
sleeps in a loft over the
camper. And you're like how that's outside anyway
anyway so i think we should do a strange strange obsession that you will discover over time that's
pretty much all my likes on tiktok no for real same all right well that's gonna do it for this
episode thank you so much anahnia, where can people find you?
I'm at Ana Hosnia on Twitter.
I'm at Selling Hosnia on Instagram.
Okay.
Becca Ramos, where can people find you?
You can find me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S, Ramos on all platforms.
All right.
That's going to do it for this one. Back tomorrow with another one.
Hope you're having a great holiday
and we'll talk to you all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
Why do you say that holiday thing
so threateningly like?
Hope you're having a good holiday.
Be ashamed if something happens to it.
Okay.
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