The Daily Zeitgeist - Beyonce Melts Coachella, Alex Jones Melts Down 4.16.18

Episode Date: April 16, 2018

In episode 127, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Jamie Loftus to discuss Robert Durst trial coming up, James Comey's interview about his new book, the airstrikes on Syrian chemical weapon facil...ities by the UK, US, & France, Alex Jones' meltdown, the incident at the Philadelphia Starbucks, Beyonce's life changing performance at Coachella, the yodel boy's appearance at Coachella, The Simpsons show runner Al Jean retweeting an alt-right site defending their show, the truth about the Pulse nightclub shooting, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:02:01 New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 27, Episode 1 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. For April 16, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. No Woman O'Brien. Bob Marley. Love it. That is courtesy of the a.k.a. guy, Chapman Rice, and I am joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Ooh, Miles, things are gonna get easier.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Ooh, Miles, things will get brighter. Hey, I remember Miles Gray used to sing to me. Had me feeling half black was the thing to be. Ooh, a little Tupac mashup, a.k.a. from the one and only Tandy Fleming on Twitter. I don't know him, but I like that. Tandy? Yeah. His name is Taylor, but his display name is Tandy.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Wherever you want to get down, bruh. Also, really like your Twitter banner profile. It was the Lee Carvalho Simpsons game. Remember that? No. The Lee Carvalho's Golf Challenge when it's like... Anyway, it was a Nintendo game. As a Deep Cubs Simpsons reference for anybody who fucks with Carvalho
Starting point is 00:03:05 and you have selected Power Drive. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious stand-up comedian and all-time great podcast guest, Jamie Lofto. I'm sorry, I actually go by Jamie Swoolsaasazla. Oh, what happened? Are you betrothed?
Starting point is 00:03:25 Has been rekindled. Well, first of all, Anna and I did decide before we started that you can also take your husband's terrible nickname along with their last name. So I now identify as Jamie Swolsauce Zaslow. So Swolsauce and I,
Starting point is 00:03:40 because we did meet basically on this podcast. Yes. So you guys are obviously all invited to the wedding. Thank you so much. I'm finally going to actually meet him. Well, see, you said that last time and you didn't meet him. So our first time listeners, Swole Sauce is somebody who, how did he first come to your attention?
Starting point is 00:04:00 He came to my attention when he left a comment on a viral internet video and starting a scathing hot or not thread about me He came to my attention when he left a comment on a viral internet video I was in starting a scathing hot or not thread about me that really hurt my feelings. So I followed up with him while we were all here together, and I tried to get him to Venmo me $50 for emotional damages. Fucked it up. Did end up accidentally paying him $40 because I didn't understand how Venmo worked. It's pretty easy.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But he was good, refunded me my $40, and we went into negotiations and he ended up giving me $20. For calling you a seven? For calling me a seven, yeah. But that wasn't, whatever. Latest update.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You're a high eight. He called you a high eight. Well, yeah, because because he was based on personality related things oh right so once he got to know you right he was like wait it's like you know what your face is less crooked to me now because of you being nice to me so we're gonna meet up for coffee keeping it cash yeah let's see i going to bring a secret witness to watch because he is, okay, predictions for Swallow Sauce, he is five foot nothing. Really? I'm going to pick him up and put him in my backpack.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But he might be so swollen, you might be worried. You might have to get that EpiPen out. My swollen friend. Yeah, he's like, do you need epinephrine? You look like you're having an allergic reaction. He's just swollen. He's really swollen. Oh, God. It's like swollen. He's really swollen.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's like, were you stung by bees or are you very strong? He's like, is your lotion have shellfish in it? No. But he's a trainer in Queens. I was like, what time of day is good for you? He's like, well, I'm a trainer, so I kind of make my own schedule. I was like, okay, chill out.
Starting point is 00:05:43 You make your own hours, kind of. I make my own hours to sw like okay chill out hey but you should get that you make your own hours kind of i make my own hours to swole sauce i'm just not strong okay okay all right jamie what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are uh just this morning i googled duncan radio personalities was trying to figure out who they are it's the radio station when you're in Dunkin' Donuts. Oh, there's a radio station in there? Yeah, all my hookups happen to Duncan Radio. It's just a mood setter. But yeah, it's like a man and a woman,
Starting point is 00:06:15 and they're talking about egg sandwiches and just having a great time together. I was like, are they friends in real life? Couldn't find any info. Did Google James Comey shirtless. No results. Damn it. He's, I mean, lots of integrity.
Starting point is 00:06:33 Rami Malek hot. Like Rami Malek? Oh, yeah. I saw you tweeting about him. He's like, he might be the only man on earth or some shit like that. Who is actually, he's the only hot person who exists. He went to my high school. Really? Yeah, him and his brother. Whoa. I don't know. I do not know him. K the only hot person who exists. He went to my high school. Really? Yeah, him and his brother.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Whoa. I don't know. I do not know him. Kirsten Dunst, yes. She went to my elementary, junior high and high school. So did the Olsen twins. Dude,
Starting point is 00:06:52 Rami Malek and Sammy Malek is his twin. Twin brother. But I just started watching Mr. Robot, so I'm very paranoid and very attracted to Rami Malek right now.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Rami Malek is the titular Mr. Robot, right? Yeah. Well, it depends. Noami Malek is the titular Mr. Robot, right? Yeah. Well, it depends. No, you don't want to spoil anything. I just think it's funny. Rami Malek asks. That's your assumption, it's just about a guy
Starting point is 00:07:14 who's named Mr. Robot. Who's just a robot. Hello, I am Mr. Robot. That dude looked like a robot. This sounds like a job for Mr. Robot. And finally, I did Google my own WikiFeet page again. Nice. Oh yeah, how's your, yeah. Good, I did Google my own WikiFeet page again. Nice. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:25 How's your year? Good. I did a bunch of shows in Michigan over the weekend and was really encouraging people in the audience to vote on my WikiFeet page. So I am up to rating beautiful. Nice. Is that a five? That is a five.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Well, it's like a 4.7. There's still- You know what, Jamie? Get out. I don't want to look upon you until you come back with that five stars. Every guest on the show brought in based on how dope their WikiFeet pages.
Starting point is 00:07:52 We only bring in fives. 100%. That's actually, yeah. We're starting the show off completely wrong, Jack. You don't ask Google search history from now on. You go, what's your WikiFeet score? I don't have a WikiFeet. Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Besides your feet on WikiFeet, what is something you think is underrated oh underrated uh i would say is making an exit because i i don't know i like to just disappear from social situations you like to make an entrance but not an exit right i like to crash through the ceiling but then leave quietly. But last night I did a show at a Christian college. I was doing a bunch of time before a Princess Diaries screening. Was this in a theater? It was in the mansion that the Princess Diaries takes place in. Wait, for real? Yeah, it's at Mount St. Mary's College.
Starting point is 00:08:40 I didn't mention that earlier. Yeah, it was in the mansion that Julie Andrews lives in. Oh, they shot at Mount St. Mary's College? Yeah, they did. And so they were showing the Princess Diaries there. It was a big old Catholic sleepover. Little Jamie came in with her little jokes. And I was trying to leave. I was trying to get to my Uber after that show. And I couldn't figure out what the way out was. And so I ended up- What do you mean? Like, isn't it my time's over? Thank you, transaction transaction finished i have to go home oh no so i left the building and then i couldn't figure out how to get out of the campus okay because
Starting point is 00:09:10 i was like oh there's probably an exit over here and that's where my uber was waiting and i was calling him and he was just like where are you i was like i can't figure out how to get out and he was like okay we'll figure it out uber pool full a brimming uber oh you must have looked like the fucking asshole when you pulled up so what i did was i scaled a gate which i've never done before it wasn't a high gate but it was a gate so i was scaling the gate entire uber pool is watching uh and then as i'm climbing the gate the gate swings open oh my god and i was right next to a gaping exit that was so it was like it looked like a gigantic moron and then anybody get it on video you were gonna be famous that is unbelievable it was i mean the frame for that video would have
Starting point is 00:10:00 been clear exit right and someone on a gate that is not even hinged closed swinging open with them on it that's one of my favorite videos just in the history of the internet is that happening to a police officer as he's scaling a wall to go in on a raid and then he like gets stuck on the on the fence right with his like crotch at the top of the fence right And then the door swings open and the rest of the cops just walk right through. Yeah, there's another one like that of this old, it's from Russia or something. There's guys trying to get through this really awful hole in a chain link fence. And he just keeps getting caught. And I think he might be drunk or something because he's got a black bag.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And then they pan over. There's an actual just cutout of the gate. And these kids are walking but it's like the best reveal of like watch this guy watch this guy struggle struggle then pan oh look that oh okay so that was uh that was deeply humiliating and then i was in that uber pool for a half hour after that and no one said anything yeah it was very wait so the exit that that you made that taught you that making an exit is underrated was just from the sleepover? From the sleepover, yeah, on the gate. Nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:13 All right. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated, I would say, is watching your crush's ex-girlfriend's Instagram stories as if it's your own religion. Okay, hold on. There's a lot coming back there. Because you will get caught eventually. Watching your ex-boyfriend's... Not even your ex.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Sorry, I don't... Ex-crush. No, your current crush's ex-girlfriend. Not ex. Because you're trying to get single white female with it and you're like, what are you about? I'm sorry, is this based on your experience? Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I do think that everyone does this to some extent. Of course we do. It's called reconnaissance. I don't make like, some people make shell accounts or whatever. Like this is my creepy account. Yeah, I don't fuck with that. I don't have time. Sometimes I use my podcast Instagram to.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Don't tell Caitlin that. Whoops. I'm pretty sure she does it too. It's a good way to monitor your enemies. Yeah, right. Bechtelcast, great podcast, by the way. And great Creeper account as well. Great Creeper account.
Starting point is 00:12:13 If Bechtelcast is watching your Insta stories, look out. Yeah, look out. But so yeah, I was doing that. And it's like the sort of thing where you do that and then it just becomes a part of your weird internet routine to the point where i was like she seems fine like she seems nice and then i was you know there was i was watching it at some point i'm like wait why am i watching whom is this what yeah but then she must have noticed because yesterday i was looking at my insta stories and she started watching mine she's like what is this bitch about i like yeah they're like
Starting point is 00:12:43 who is this psychopath who's always posting pictures of her Wikifeet account and is addicted to my Insta stories? Yeah, oh, right. She starts reporting you. She's like, I'm worried about this person. A scary woman. So I would say that's overrated, and I'm going to briefly retire from doing that. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:13:00 from doing that. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? Ooh, that hot people can date less hot people and not be very weird and braggy about it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Okay. Okay, I'll unpack this. So I was out last week with a couple who, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:21 one is extremely hot and then she's got this new boyfriend who's a guy, you know? Right. He doesn then she's got this new boyfriend who's a guy you know right that he doesn't look like shit he's he can read hey man you don't look like shit i like how literacy is part of how you appear it's like he don't look like shit he's literate all right i was like i was quoting santa university he doesn't look like shit he can read so a viable romantic candidate for anyone for sure uh but there was like this vibe of the whole time my hot friend was just like it was like she was waiting
Starting point is 00:13:55 for a round of applause of like can you believe he looks look and me? No, really? Yeah. That's shitty. But he, I don't know. He was like, yeah, I'm pretty gnarly, huh? Yeah, I look like a foot. I can't even read. I'm curious if anyone has had a similar experience. Because it was never stated, but it was very much a vibe of like, wow, i'm really among the people right now because i'm
Starting point is 00:14:25 dating a regular looking person i mean is that is that for your friend to feel that they are like uh like humble and and like in every person or do you think that they sort of resent that they're with an ugly person or not no less attractive no i think that she thinks she's doing him the favor of a lifetime right i almost admire it because sometimes there will be like a tremendous mismatch or like you'll have a friend who's with somebody who you're like what do they see in them right and there's just like pure cognitive dissonance they're like isn't he great and you're just like yeah that's no not really and like but so her being like he's kind of shitty right but i still like him i don't get it but i'm into him it's weird and then he's like kind of on board i feel like this happens with like when actors
Starting point is 00:15:09 like start uh dating like writers where they're like look what i'm so cool and accessible because i'm like look at who's involved with this person who like kind of looks like shit guess what i'm not fucking that face i'm'm fucking that brain. Exactly. I think it is an attempt to look smarter, too. Yeah, it would be interesting to hear Brad Pitt talk about his MIT professor. Yeah, he's bragging about it. He's actually beautiful, so it wouldn't count.
Starting point is 00:15:37 He has an MIT professor? Yeah, he's with an MIT professor. Hooking up with an MIT professor. Whose Twitter is fantastic. It's whimsical. Really? Yes. I'll show it to you later.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yes, please. She's actually very pretty, but she looks like a normal human being and not some strange alien goddess like he's used to dating. An alien goddess? Wow. She's just very... Yeah, she's got a vibe about her. It looks like she was constructed out of beautiful features to be some
Starting point is 00:16:09 exaggerated form of... She's a shapeshifter. Sounds like what you're saying. Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't trust her at all. We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness, what people are thinking or talking about right now. We usually stray a little American because we're very American because we are Americans.
Starting point is 00:16:28 So therefore, vary up our own asses. So first of all, I just wanted to check in on a alternate timeline, the timeline in which Hillary Clinton won, the stuff we would care about in that timeline. Because on my drive in today, I got two updates. about in that timeline because on my drive in today I got two updates one was about the Cosby trial and the other was that the Robert Durst trial
Starting point is 00:16:50 is about to happen and I was like oh yeah I used to really care about that trial other stuff wasn't happening in the world oh hold on I forgot we have Rob Durst fanatic over here as someone who almost chose the twitter handle JamieDurst666.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It's true. As someone who's almost got a Beverly with an extra E tattoo on my shoulder but was advised not to by literally everyone I asked. I'm encouraging it. Thank you so much. I think it's really funny. And as someone who tried to go to the Durst trial last February when it was supposed to start and then was postponed until April of the next year. Like as a fan? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:30 So this Beyonce Coachella resonated with you a lot. She was supposed to be there last year. She canceled on everybody. Now she's back. This is like your Coachella Rob Durst. Durst is my personal Beyonce. Why are you so obsessed with Robert Durst is my personal Beyonce. Why are you so obsessed with Robert Durst? Like to the point, I mean, I know you're an interesting person, but like to go to be like, oh, I want to go see this trial.
Starting point is 00:17:50 I mean, as you were saying, Jack, I kind of slipped because there just hasn't been Durst news coming out. Right. And I forgot it is April of the next year now. Yeah. Like, I mean, why everyone likes him. He is like the cartooniest version of getting away with it. Like peak American excess, getting away with it with no remorse. Right. But I don't, like when Durst kills people, it feels like a weird Robin Hood.
Starting point is 00:18:16 I don't know. Like I'm just, it's. He murders them for the little people? He like murders people to get back at his daddy. It's so bizarre. There's so much weird shit tied up in it. There's so much to unpack. And he's just a compelling ass lizard man.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I think he did come out and say that he was on meth for most of the filming of that documentary, which makes a lot of sense of some of his facial tics. But then he says that that's why his confession is void valid right oh god when he came because i've never seen i've never seen anyone a more low energy person on meth than robert durst though right i don't believe it i mean he is all pupils in that documentary but like he's just like he's so good at getting away with shit when it's so obvious that when he came out in the neck brace last year and was like, I was on meth. I was like, man, he's going for a wide swing.
Starting point is 00:19:10 But this is the same man who's gotten away with murder by saying he dismembered someone in self-defense. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's true. What an icon. If you haven't seen the, what is it? The Jinx. The Jinx. The Jinx.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Come on. Directed by Andrew Jarecki. Jarecki. The man behind Catfish. The man, yes, yes. People don't realize that. That's his other contribution. The man who appears to be dressed up in a Halloween costume of himself the whole time.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Jarecki straight up looks like a magician. He really does. Like, why is this documentarian walking around like a magician with a little shit beard? But he did make The Jinx and so we are... And if you guys haven't seen that, you should definitely watch The Jinx because my goodness, if you want to look at American
Starting point is 00:19:56 men who have lived in a consequence free world and see how that snowballs into something crazier. A perfect piece of art. It's so good. And then it ends with a great bow on top. Typically these things don't end like that. It's a perfect piece of art. It's so good. And then it ends with a great bow on top. Typically these things don't end like that. It's the perfect ending
Starting point is 00:20:09 to a true crime documentary. It'll ruin all other true crime documentaries for you. Oh yeah, because you'll be like, man, you never gonna get
Starting point is 00:20:16 that ending anywhere else. Exactly. So you mentioned him being all pupils and that's something that I'm just learning about. No, but it's something that I'm just, uh, learning about. No,
Starting point is 00:20:26 but it's something that I'm just learning about that people were, I guess, analyzing, people were analyzing Stormy Daniels pupils during the, uh, 60 minutes interview because it was like bright lights, but her eyes were just like all dilated and shit. And they were like,
Starting point is 00:20:42 she must've been on drugs. Uh, that's, I don't know. It's a weird bit of sort of mass detective work that we're seeing on the internet. Yeah, I mean, if you go to like ConcernedChristianParent.com, dilated pupils means so many different things.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Uh-oh. Yeah. We'll probably avoid that website. Also, I didn't make one this year. Usually I make a Robert Durst calendar every year and give it out for like holiday gifts. Didn't do it for 2018. Oh, like a hand-drawn one?
Starting point is 00:21:09 A hand-drawn one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I did it for 16, 17. But 2018 was Stedman and Jeffrey Garten having fun together. That was the 2018 theme. Right. Now you know. And Cosby's trial has started and there are stories being told in the court and direct confrontation.
Starting point is 00:21:29 And it's all very troubling. But we would be talking about that all they, who apparently is not topless as frequently as most people would like. Jim Comey, not shirtless. Right. We can Photoshop something for you. Thank you so much. He's releasing his memoir from his time working for President Trump and, I guess, before that. But those are where the big revelations are coming from. Basically, his reflections on Trump. They're about what you would expect, I guess.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Yeah. There's nothing really new. I think the thing that really stuck out to me, I mean, clearly he was like, you know, he's not mentally unfit. He's like, this talk about his dementia, I don't really believe. I just think he's morally unfit rather than mentally unfit, which I can see that. But he never actually even called for impeachment he was like oh that would be like an easy out for the american people or whatever the american people need to vote him out of yeah which okay fine i think the one thing that was interesting was that like he definitely was willing to suggest that he believed that there was a strong possibility that the president had been compromised by russia seemed to be like the thing that was like, ooh, and then referencing a Russian hotel
Starting point is 00:22:45 incident, which we all know is pee pee tape. Right. So I don't, that was, that was the thing that stuck out to me. He specifically talks about that in the memoir, doesn't he? Right. Specifically that the president seized on the pee pee tape and was like, I would, come on. First of all, why would a guy like me need to be with prostitutes?
Starting point is 00:23:01 Germs? Yeah. Second of all, I'm a germaphobe. Why would I watch people pee on each other? Which is exactly what a germaphobe would be into. Hey, you going to the bathroom? What are you going to do with prostitutes. Germs? Yeah. Second of all, I'm a germaphobe. Why would I watch people pee on each other? Which is exactly what a germaphobe would be into. Hey, are you going to the bathroom? What are you going to do with that pee? Do you want to do it in a Ziploc bag? Guys, really quick. Can we all get matching tattoos that says pee-pee tape?
Starting point is 00:23:14 If that stops you from getting a Robert Durst tattoo, then I will do that. Yeah, let's do a same trip. I'll get two tattoos in the same trip. Beverly on one shoulder, pee-pee tape on the other. There you go. The saddest 2018 tattoo ever. I'll get two tattoos in the same trip. Beverly on one shoulder, pee-pee tape on the other shoulder. Almost the saddest 2018 tattoo ever.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But yeah, I think with this whole thing, that was very interesting because, yeah, Comey does, you know, like everyone has pointed out, this president is very unwilling to directly criticize Putin. Even in private, he said he wasn't even willing to say shit. So who knows what's going on there? Again, I don't know if there's anything really new. I mean, like the White House could have totally been like, you see, he didn't say anything about collusion because Comey himself wasn't like, I don't know if that's really the biggest story about Trump is about collusion or more so that he's like this corrupt person who is trying to bend the law to his will constantly. Right. My big takeaway is that President Trump is probably not 6'3", as his doctor claims. Comey said he's shorter than he imagined, which sent me researching. I found a picture of Trump standing next to Mark Sanchez, the NFL quarterback who is 6'2", a confirmed 6'2",
Starting point is 00:24:18 because he got measured at the combine in front of cameras, you know he's six two and trump is shorter than him uh so but trump is claiming how tall he is six three he says yeah that's not possible right wait show show uh show jamie the photo because when you look at it and go yeah i'm six three how tall are you six two yeah i'm six three yeah that's literally what he's saying. You're shorter than him, you asshole. Actually, this is a simulation and I am 6'3". So, fuck right off. No, Donald Trump is like, what, 5'4"? Probably at this point. He's tops.
Starting point is 00:24:54 And he's swole as fuck. They call him the little pee-pee boy. Little hands man. In terms of wildly unsurprising revelations, he talks about the meal when Trump asked for his loyalty. He was like, it was him talking almost the entire time, which I've discovered is something he frequently does. Which is just, yeah, of course. Can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:25:15 Rambling on. Yeah, just what it's like to be in a room with that dude. But yeah, I do think the intelligence thing is a key takeaway. Because he's like, look not he's not this demented elderly like doddering idiot just a sick fuck who's used to getting what he wants so he does whatever the fuck he wants to achieve that i'm sorry are we talking about robert durst right now a lot of really smart people on the left tend to want to make that like portray a picture of this guy who's like too dumb to even like
Starting point is 00:25:45 put his shoes on. I think because it's harder to deal with someone being that consciously fucked in the head. Right. Like as president and it's easier to be like oh it's this sick old guy. Right. And he's just you know. Yeah. Nah. He's just a scumbag. Probably important to
Starting point is 00:26:01 take him seriously. Oh yeah. Oh yeah yeah yeah sure. Yeah. Oh for sure. Oh yeahag. Probably important to take him seriously. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah, buddy. Sorry. Good ASMR, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's the first thing I'm going to search after this recording is ASMR true crime
Starting point is 00:26:18 because that is apparently a thing. Oh, yeah. ASMR, Unsolved Mysteries, Lily Whispers ASMR, one of my favorite ASMR series going right now. I don't think I can hear people talk about unsolved murders in whispered tones. Dismembered in Kansas. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
Starting point is 00:26:55 The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
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Starting point is 00:30:07 This message is brought to you by the Ad Council. And we're back. And the other big story from this weekend is, of course, after we recorded on Friday, the president, a coalition of United States Armed Forces and British and French Armed Forces attacked Syria, bombed three separate facilities that apparently are part of the chemical weapon production in Syria with the goal of preventing further attacks by al-Assad on the people of Syria, which seems totally justified. Oh, by the way, not that we needed to record anything after the attacks because we totally predicted it on Friday because we were like, Fox and Friends was like, I mean, wouldn't bombing Syria make this Comey story go away? Wouldn't it? And it didn't. And it didn't. And it didn't.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Which is weird, too. Right. And I think with the Comey thing, again, the White House could have just been like, you see? He didn't say nothing's different. Right. But again, it's like their whole thing, they really doubled down on trying to discredit him. It just looks so fucking weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Yeah. My takeaway from this weekend is that it seems like striking back and retaliating at them for the chemical weapons attacks seems justified, but it's totally unclear what the broader strategy is. Yeah, because it seemed like before this, Trump was like, we're about to pull out of Syria. Right. And then suddenly we were now doing sort of targeted strikes on these facilities and clearly trying to avoid any Iranian or Russian forces because we don't want to have direct armed conflict with those countries. And it is an interesting question because on one hand, you have the U.S. saying like,
Starting point is 00:31:52 now, like, you know, we're going to hit it and quit it. And then you have Macron saying, I talked Donald Trump into staying through because we have to be there. All the military advisors in the Pentagon are telling Trump we are going to need to stay there. It's not clear what we're doing. all the military advisors in the Pentagon are telling Trump, we are going to need to stay there. It's not clear what we're doing. And it's very confusing because it seems like over the weekend, there are people who felt like, you know, we shouldn't be going to war. This was, it was unauthorized and they have valid points about sort of how the checks on the executive branch
Starting point is 00:32:17 are sort of not there. And they've sort of been eroded since 9-11 essentially. But then it's like, where does the moral imperative come in for Americans or just people looking at something like this going on where people are being killed by their own leader? In horrible ways. And do we intervene? Or do we also have a plan to actually do something about it? Because sure, we can hit those facilities that are making the chemical weapons and they're responsible for that.
Starting point is 00:32:41 But what are we doing to ensure that it's really not going to happen again? And I think that's kind of the mystery that like, what, is there a plan? Or was it sort of something that seemed politically advantageous to the US? Or you know what I mean? Like, yeah, and by international law, chemical attacks are illegal. And right, you know, regular bombings are not but, you know, from a purely like ethical perspective, is there really a difference between him killing his people with chemical weapons and killing his people with explosives, which over 400,000 people have died already from this war and from Bashar al-Assad attacking his own people? So I don't know. During the Cold War, it seemed like America and Russia
Starting point is 00:33:27 didn't openly fight one another. And this weekend had the weird situation of al-Assad the day after the attack, straight up celebrating that Russia shot down US missiles at a meeting with Russian leaders present. So that seems at least seems at least like warmish, like a warm war. Right. Like we're openly shooting each other's missiles down. And, you know, that's direct Russia on American military action, which we didn't really have much of in the. in this situation there yeah i was also confused with like the is the executive branch overstepping by doing this like that was a question that i was trying to and it's like yes and no i i don't know i feel like it's safe to assume there's no plan like i based on everything we know yeah and based on everything we know of this administration i feel like it's safe to assume there's not a cogent long-term plan in place yet. Well, right,
Starting point is 00:34:29 especially after he tweets mission accomplished. Right. It's hard to know. And I mean... That's like a Michael Bay tweet. That's crazy. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But he knew what he was doing when he tweeted that. Yeah, of course. He just, for the optics of... He tweeted mission accomplished and then he was like, yeah, I know why that's weird because of the Bush thing.
Starting point is 00:34:45 But I'm doing it on purpose because I want to take that term back for military victories because it's a great term. It's actually meta commentary on a shitty catchphrase that has damaged the country. Right. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah, it's just again, it's one of those things where, you know, clearly even this decision even fractured Trump supporters in a crazy way. But I think there's also this other factor of this conflict that, you know, America really does have to pay attention to is that if the U.S. pulls out, right, that means, you know, Iran is definitely aggressively trying to build bases in Syria, like as they've been doing. have been doing. And the more that happens, the more that makes Israel nervous, which is, you know, some are speculating why that one base was attacked by Israel, because it seems like their policy is we do not want to have... A base in Syria was attacked by Israel? Yeah, we do not want Iranian military infrastructure getting closer and closer to our border.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And that's something that eventually could escalate into just direct conflict between Israel and Iran. That's why there needs to be a plan. It can't just be like, yes, we did a good thing here. If that's how they're trying to spin it, I'm like, yeah, we attack these chemical facilities. Therefore, these attacks will no longer be perpetrated against the people. There have been many attacks even since the last time we bombed Syria at the beginning of last year, like of chemical attacks too. So I think we're just waiting to see what is the plan. Like, is there a plan? Is there not a plan? And it's just very
Starting point is 00:36:10 confusing. And it's very it puts things in flux over there, too, because people don't know, you know, where the U.S. is going to land or where Western allies are going to land on this. Meanwhile, Russia and Iran are both claiming that the attacks were not effective. Or, no, that the chemical weapons attacks were, like, faked by the CIA, I think is their implication. Or Alex Jones says it's like Al-Qaeda. So, I mean, as you can tell from our trying to figure out where we stand on this, it's a very complicated situation. But one of the more interesting things was just seeing different people who are usually pro-Trump or anti-Trump kind of scatter
Starting point is 00:36:52 or fracture in different directions than you might expect over the weekend in response to this strike. Specifically, Alex Jones was not happy about- He was heartbroken even, you might say. Right. I haven't seen this yet. Yeah, I mean, and I'm not totally, like I think he's isolationist and he is pro-authoritarian and because of the way that this conflict breaks down,
Starting point is 00:37:17 it's like Russia and Syria and Iran are like the authoritarian side and so by America intervening on behalf of like Democrats, maybe that's what he just. Well, no. And also he thinks that Trump has fallen for a hoax. OK. Like that attack was meant to induce an American response artificially and that he's fallen victim to this trick. Oh, so he's like my boy got duped.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Exactly. My boy got freaking duped. He didn't see this for what it was. It was a fake attack. Why isn't there more? You know what I mean? He's been pushing conspiracy theories about this thing
Starting point is 00:37:53 since the chemical attack. Okay. Yeah, his whole thing is that he can't believe that Trump fell for the globalists' bait to pull him in. You know what I mean? And those are sort of like the...
Starting point is 00:38:04 Yeah, I guess America allying with the UK and France is very globalist of them. And those nations are a bunch of cucks, so that makes sense. Mike Cernovich apparently also believes that the chemical attack was a false flag because of the famous philosophical maxim, Occam's silly straw, which states that the most convoluted, tangled, and impossible to follow explanation is probably the right one. But I think we have some clips of Alex Jones.
Starting point is 00:38:36 He really lost it. I think Mike Jones, Mike Jones, not Mike Jones, but Alex Jones, it starts off with him dealing with it. He kind of goes through these phases where it's sort of denial, disbelief, and then straight up anger. All right. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:50 This is BS, man. I mean, the damn rebels are Al Qaeda, ISIS. They launched the chemical attacks. They've been caught three times before. And I'm not going to shell out my morals for fucking Donald Trump. God damn it. See, I can't even go live. I'm so fucking pissed right now.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Fuck Trump and fuck these fucking people. And now you got Mattis and fucking all these people shitting all over us. Pieces of fucking shit. You fucking assholes. Fucking support this. Fuck you. You fucking goddamn degenerate fucks. You know, stop supporting Trump trump and it's the opposite
Starting point is 00:39:28 what my ex-wife says she says you know huh oh the system took the kids away from me no you got the kids back because who i was part of the time and then they sit there and they're like you know if you just turn against trump things will be better but he was doing good and that was makes it so bad this is where he starts crying literally oh and that's what makes it so bad. This is where he starts crying literally. Oh, and that's what makes it so bad. If he'd have been a piece of crap from the beginning, it would be so bad.
Starting point is 00:39:52 But we made so many sacrifices and now he's crapping all over us. It makes me sick. So he definitely has like a fecal obsession. Yeah, a lot of getting shit on. It's weird hearing someone say crapping all over us through tears yeah while weeping also was that his diary like is this his voice where he's the subtext to a lot of that to me is i miss my kids so freaking much yeah it's really he's talking
Starting point is 00:40:19 about it's almost like he's like i aligned myself with trump and i lost my kids right look where it got me i have no kids and no country anymore or whatever the fuck he's like, I aligned myself with Trump and I lost my kids. Right. And look where it got me. I have no kids and no country anymore. Or whatever the fuck he's thinking. What's crazy is that in that clip, he's crying. And all you see is a close-up shot of him. Then they cut to a wide where there's a dude sitting next to him. And he's so uncomfortable just like looking off. And he's just like.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Because I'm telling you, those Infowar guys, they don't do well when men cry around each other. Right. It was just the dude looks so shook by like, he's like, he's like this is actually not protocol this is not good i don't know alex jones is such an like a throbbing emotional member that you're just i don't know i like it's so bizarre to hear him talk about this in a way that it's like my bro freaking turn his back on me right there's no regard for people. It's just like, I lost my kids, and now my fucking bro is not doing what he said he would do.
Starting point is 00:41:12 He sounds like a drunk girl at a bar. It really does. I don't understand. I do wonder if he had had a couple drinks between the first two and the last two. Maybe had a couple drinks to balance out whatever, the natural cocaine that is always coursing through his yeah just it's it's also caused a split like with the trump supporters because they're saying well some people are supporters of the president and other
Starting point is 00:41:35 people just support have an agenda and they'll only support trump when it serves their agenda and a lot of trump supporters are pointing at people like alex jones and mike cernovich who have been like fuck this like he betrayed us as being like see you only supported it because it aligned with your agenda you were never really with the president right and like that's caused like you know like Mike Cernovich this guy who's always owning himself on Twitter uh to like lose a lot of like followers really quickly and apparently like there's like even grumblings that like Donald Trump Jr. is gonna like unfollow him which would trigger like a lot of people to like abandon cernovich it's like wild drama and that's what happens right yeah like yeah he had a periscope stream i guess where cernovich was even saying
Starting point is 00:42:14 like you fuck the whole family and blah blah blah so the maga train has derailed yeah uh so that that's what's going on on the right in response to this. And then I think there's also sort of general disapproval for the attack on the far left. Yeah, or just people who have always been worried about what kind of war powers the executive branch actually has. Because some people, you can look at this through the lens of, oh, well, what stops Trump from preemptively striking North Korea without the approval of Congress to drag us into some much larger armed conflict? Also, where are the men crying on the far left? I feel like that would be good. I just want more men crying. Hey, have you heard this show?
Starting point is 00:42:58 It's every day, man. Oh, yeah. I forgot we do cry breaks now. We're the men on the left not crying. But the best thing I think was, like, I think Mike Cernovich also said something yesterday. He was like, yeah, man, if you're a Trump supporter, you might as well be a cuck. And I was like, whoa. Whoa, sick freaking burn.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Yo, bro, talking to that spice. All right. And then we also wanted to talk about a story that is about Starbucks. It's about Philadelphia, which, as we said, had been on a roll. Yeah. But so two black men were arrested for sitting in a Starbucks. Yeah, because black, because America. I guess these two men were waiting to meet up with a friend who showed up while they were being arrested.
Starting point is 00:43:44 showed up while they were being arrested but someone who worked at starbucks was like getting real nervous uh because of their implicit bias uh and thought you know oh these people haven't bought anything they're up to something called the police and the cops hauled them off and all the while this woman was recording it and that video went viral i'm sure most people have seen it uh and the root actually interviewed this woman who who made the video who was white and she was saying that her friends afterwards were like calling her and being like, what really happened? Or like there must have been something else. Something else must have happened. It's hard for me to believe that two men of color were just arrested simply for sitting and someone thought they were suspicious.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And it speaks, I think this incident kind of speaks to something a little bit bigger is that there is still this idea that I think people think that people of color exaggerate when they describe the discrimination they experience. Because I'm sure for some people, based on their life experience, it would be very hard for them to imagine something like, I was just waiting for a friend at Starbucks and I was arrested? That's crazy. But guess what? Because especially black men in this country are looked at as people who will probably take your life. That's the default position of police who take the lives of black men is like i feared for my life right meanwhile think about how many of these mass shooters who are white somehow get taken into custody without getting shot it's i mean this is 2018 and this is kind of still the same shit
Starting point is 00:44:57 and you know i would take an opportunity for uh people if you want to be an ally to people of color if you even hear people think that people of color are suspicious for any reason, you have to really unpack why it is you have this sort of idea in your head. Is it because you really believe that? Is it because you've been conditioned to believe that? And I'm sure there are many people who say, well, I would never do that. But there are also many white people who have friends who are not white, who are fine with
Starting point is 00:45:22 people of color if they know them. You know what I mean? Like mean like oh i have black friends but it's the black people they don't know who are suddenly suspicious to them or whatever and i think this is just again this is something that people need to really evaluate and you know i think the response to this has shown that some people still really struggle believing that this kind of discrimination happens and that it's real and yes you simply can get fucking harassed or discriminated because someone just thinks you're dangerous. It really does seem like the absolute least you can do is to start challenging.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Like when someone in your life says something like casual and careless, like, I mean, for me, it makes trips home very stressful. But it's like, you know, we're at a point now where you have to do that. Yeah. Because there are so many real world implications of casual shit like that stressful but it's like you know we're at a point now where you have to do that yeah because there are so many real world implications of casual shit like that where it's like you know if you hear someone talk about people of color in a way that is super dismissive and like oh you know they're sensationalizing stuff or if you heard people talking about like women like i like when
Starting point is 00:46:20 shit was hitting the fan and people you know give a fuck for the first time and however long. You know, it's like I had to talk to my dad about it because he's like, oh, man, this is pretty crazy, right? And it's like, dude, what? No, hold on. Hold on. Please stop. Yeah. So it's hard.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Like, I don't know. I don't like talking to anybody. Period. I'm sure a lot of people feel the same way. No one wants to talk to anybody. People are a nightmare. But yeah, it is truly the least you can do is to point out that someone is being dismissive of a very real thing. Yeah, because if you go along or not saying anything, then you allow this person to operate in this fake reality. You are complicit, bitch.
Starting point is 00:47:00 But Starbucks, at the very least, they're saying, oh, we're going to a something about like invisible bias or i don't know some kind of weird training i mean like sure we're bringing back oprah chai jesus fucking christ we're gonna put something about equality on our cups oh yeah remember when they were like let's start conversations about race yeah remember that whole fucking thing they do yeah i like I like when Burger King is like, we're queer now. They're just like, we're queer. Does that really happen? They had like queer cups for a while. They had like rainbow cups.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Burger King's like, actually, we the Burger Kings are queer now. We the Burger Kings. Yeah, I mean, if they really believe about having it your way, you've got to be all inclusive. Right, you can't be... That was one of my favorite... We, the Burger Kings, have always been about having it your way. And today, we...
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Starting point is 00:51:44 And she had a terrible performance. Just really bad. Really embarrassing. We feel bad for her. God. Yeah, when are you going to throw in that towel? I mean, God. I think she jumped the shark finally with this performance.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And we can say, sorry, B. She jumped the shark a long time ago. Yeah, you're washed up. You're bringing up old band members. Come on. This is one of those performances that I didn't watch it as it was airing, but the second I saw how everyone freaking out, I was just like, I need to wait until I can watch this alone.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Yeah, no, exactly. That's how it was too. You have to watch it alone. For people who think we were serious, we're not. The earth shifted somehow because of Beyonce's Coachella performance, and people are lauding it as like one of the greatest performances ever from what i've seen it looks like definitely one of the top three performances of all time at coachella maybe yeah i mean not since the it's like tupac hologram kanye uh and this are the ones that basically stopped the world yeah coachella performances And the Tupac hologram was just a trick anyway.
Starting point is 00:52:46 You know what I mean? That was a trick of the life. That was just a circus trick. Yeah. And I saw it. Man, let me tell you. I saw this shit live. And aside from the Dodgers and Giants fans that were fist fighting around me as it was
Starting point is 00:52:56 happening, the hologram was very underwhelming from where I was. You were at Tupac hologram? Oh, yeah. I was at Tupac hologram. Hot frag. And I mean, from when you're that far away. Actually, Miles knows the Tupac Hologram? Oh, yeah. I was at Tupac Hologram. Hot frag. And I mean, from when you're that far away. Actually, Miles knows the Tupac Hologram. Miles hangs out with the Tupac Hologram.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Zach, you know what I mean? I don't like to get into it, but yes. I saw Miles in the Tupac Hologram at the Cha-Cha Lounge the other day. So crazy. He's my bro. He's my bro. But yeah, it was amazing. And that just makes me look forward to On the Run Tour 2.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Yes. Oh, my gosh. Have you watched it yet, Jamie? Yes. The performance? Like, last night when I got home, I was like, the time is now. Like I said, and just took it in. You need to experience it alone and then reconvene with your group and be like, that I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Tell anybody, ask anybody who's on the fence about Beyonce. Watch this performance. Yeah. My favorite tweet about the performance was from somebody who's not normally a Beyonce fan. At Almighty Dosa tweeted, I really might have to apologize to Beyonce fans for calling them mentally ill. If my favorite artist was cooking like that on live performances, I'd wish death on innocent people via Twitter too. Which, yeah, that seems to sum it up. It was just like anyone who didn't get it up to this point for some reason or another now must admit.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah. Also, if you didn't get it at this point, congrats on being a devil's advocate career-wise. Like, there's – you stupid idiot. I don't know any reason to look at that and objectively be like, that's not good. You don't have to fucking etch it in your skin or anything. But I feel like most people can acknowledge there's no one with that level as a performer right now right and sure maybe they're i don't know but i'm just part of that world so and also it's virgo season so watch out so for the actually crew just like chill the one other thing about coachella that kind of bummed me out was that
Starting point is 00:54:39 the yodel boy was there and i was talking about this i was unpacking it with anna who's my therapist and i realized i was just hating on him that i wasn't on stage like he was right but it was crazy to see how quickly the internet went from one week you're a meme then you're on Ellen and then you're on stage at Coachella somehow like taking pictures backstage with Justin Bieber the life cycle of a meme is constantly mutating right Right. It's interesting. I heard Yodel Boy actually already has a really bad coke problem. Right, exactly. Yeah, he's spinning out of control. Yeah, he had to sell that belt buckle.
Starting point is 00:55:10 But he also has a fragrance. But his fragrance is amazing. Yeah, but you were going to launch your Yodel career this week, and the fact that he hit that before you. Yeah, it hurts miles as somebody from uh southern california who uh was apparently hanging out with the tupac hologram what's the uh what's the best coachella show i didn't tell you ahead of time that i was gonna ask you this but i'm just curious what's the best coachella moment you were there for man how are we basing this like how objectively good the performance was or how smacked I was?
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, combination. I mean, literally everyone's on drugs at Coachella. I really loved, I mean, I've seen Radiohead there. That was amazing. I've seen Nine Inch Nails there. That was amazing. I've seen the Outkast reunion. I saw the first week.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I fucking, I'm so bummed about that. You know, actually, one of the craziest things I saw that like really moved me was when I saw like Flying Lotus in, like, 2012. Like, it was, like, an end-to-end, nonstop, like, ride if you were on Ecstasy. Right. And then you just, by the end, you were like, how am I? Like, you really didn't know what to do after you're so frazzled.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Yeah. But I like, I mean, when I was still going, you know, I would put Flying Lotus in 2010 up there with Radiohead in 2012 probably. Radiohead's incredible live. Wow, you're in a room full of boys right now. Radiohead actually is. This is the most vulnerable I've seen both of you. I'm like weeping. Radiohead actually made me who I am today. I take that back.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Gautier in 2012, man. Gautier, oh, beautiful. So like my favorite performance, totally based on like the chemicals that were in my body at the time and like just the atmosphere was Calvin Harris. I was like, this guy is amazing. Like the sun was going down.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Right. Like everybody was having a good time. I've never listened to it. Yeah, now I'm too old and I don't have enough money to throw away like $1,500 at a weekend like that. Right. No, definitely not. Because back in the day, I used to just have enough money for the ticket and I would just sleep in like the tent city or like you know bum off someone's hotel room floor and when you try and do that shit in
Starting point is 00:57:29 your 30s you realize you're like i need to sleep in a bed with like an actual toilet i am a man yeah i uh i i'm east coast uh and so the one big festival i've ever been to was bonnaroo 2013 i volunteered sleeping in the tent city you take a shower it smells like eggs I was 20 so I could not drink and I was afraid of drugs and I oh well this is kind of interesting I went alone I was convinced I was like this is a great idea I took a mega bus from Boston to Tennessee holy shit with it I'd never pitched a tent in my life. Borrowed a tent from my aunt that was huge. It had two rooms in it. What? Jesus. And so I met
Starting point is 00:58:10 these kids from Albany on the bus which I needed someone to help me pitch my tent so I allied myself with these Albany kids. But then they made you say the 14 words after? No. Then they were like, we will with the agreement that we can use your second room. And I was like okay.
Starting point is 00:58:25 So they were just finger banging each other in the other room in my tent for all of Bonnaroo. It was horrifying. So your tent was half your domicile and half like teen sex tent. I think about it every week because I do still follow one of them on Instagram. And they're like, found another sucker to let me crash in the tent. There was a hula hooper who was getting violently finger-banked in my tent adjacent
Starting point is 00:58:53 for in 2013. Now she's a mom. She has a small business. She's killing it. Good for her. So maybe magic can happen in this tent. Wish you hadn't gaslighted me out of my own tent, but what can you do? You live and you learn. And then a quick update on the Simpsons story, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Al Jean, the executive producer of the Simpsons, decided to comment on the backlash to the controversy over the Apu episode. And the way he did was by retweeting the one article that was defending he and the Simpsons written by the National Review. Oh, wow. Very conservative. Noted conservative publication. And he also pointed out that the problem with Apu got a 4.6 on IMDb.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Does that mean it's worthless? No. I think there were valid points made. But the fact that he brought up the IMDb score got a 4.6 on IMDb. Does that mean it's worthless? No. I think there were valid points made, but the fact that he brought up the IMDb score was just weird. What he doesn't mention is that there's... So he's basically aligning himself with the alt-right in this particular argument. Inadvertently.
Starting point is 00:59:59 And he doesn't realize that the reason the problem with Apu has a 4.6 on IMDb probably has to do with the fact that alt-right groups have been targeting and downvoting user-generated movie ratings on sites like IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes. I think that a pretty direct line can be drawn between that and how people have treated my WikiFeet page before. The four people who have said my feet are ugly are clearly i mean we know very wrong they're my feet are works of art uh but there are haters who have never seen them and just want to
Starting point is 01:00:30 you know yeah just want to suddenly are experts so when you think about it this story is about me right right so go on please finish telling how does this end when you think about no actually i'm just gonna give it back to jack uh But yeah, other movies that have lower than you would expect Rotten Tomatoes reviewer IMDb score are like, you know, the latest Star Wars movie because it's full of women and trying to turn the men gay, according to a guy. Is that a quote yeah guy who runs the Facebook fan page that's like Disney's abuse of franchise fans like needs to be stopped he came out and said that the movies trying to turn men gay and wipe white people out of the history book right yeah so yeah the point is just to go back to algae and the problem with those scores is some people may be aware by now but they're
Starting point is 01:01:26 being hacked uh and other people aren't and they think that they can just use those scores to help criticize a movie awesome like algae and way to actually address the issue rather than being like being like whoa look look at this thing this one website agrees with me and the raw tomato scores 4.6. Right. That's why I was so disappointed. I think we talked about it last week. The Simpsons can do better as a writing entity to handle that situation than the way they did, which was like, I don't know, politically correct,
Starting point is 01:01:56 can't do nothing about it. Right. Which is just like, man, everything comes to an end. Right. Yep. How will Beyonce's fate end? Oh, God. No, we need hope.
Starting point is 01:02:08 We need this. The two people who are still perfect are Beyonce and Robert Durst. That would be a good ticket for 2020. They can't be touched. Beyonce, Durst. They cannot be touched. And then just a story that I hadn't realized I had completely wrong was the story of the Pulse nightclub shooting. The podcast On The Media from, I guess, WNYC talked about the...
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah, it is a really good podcast. about how basically the whole story about the Pulse nightclub that the guy was closeted and he was, you know, shooting up that club to target gay people was actually incorrect. And it was part of this misinformation campaign started by the FBI to try and build a case against his wife. to try and build a case against his wife. So basically what happened is he abused his wife, as many mass shooters do. They say that spousal abuse and eventual murder or mass shootings go hand in hand. And then he was just radicalized by ISIS and watched a bunch of ISIS videos, watched a bunch of anti-American videos.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He started the night of the shooting going to a town called Disney Springs that we need to talk about at some point on the show. It's a town owned and started by Disney. I've never heard of this. Like Burbank. Yeah, exactly. But like more officially. But the security there was too great. So he put into Yelp Orlando nightclub, went to a straight nightclub.
Starting point is 01:03:56 The security there was too great. Typed in again Orlando nightclub. They know all this because of phone forensics. nightclub they know all this because of phone forensics uh and got pulse as like the second option went in there and literally asked the security guard where all the ladies when he got there uh so like he didn't even know it was a gay nightclub so his wife was just let off so fortunately i guess people realized that she wasn't uh, but they tried to build a case that he knew he was going to target that specific nightclub, and she was involved in the plan. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:04:32 It was all bullshit. Wow. Jesus. I mean, again, the time-honored tradition of being deceived by American law enforcement. Yep. Because, yeah, the FBI loves to fucking Get people trapped against a wall or something And get them to admit to a crime Or something they didn't do
Starting point is 01:04:47 Or like inadvertently frame people For trying to do terrorist shit And being like you were setting them up the whole time And then the argument is always like Well a big picture it's fine If we are deceptive and lied to everybody So big picture I'm surprised the White House
Starting point is 01:05:03 Isn't jumping on some shit like this and be like, you see? That's what the FBI does. Then they would have to really confront many other problems with how Anyway, guys, what a twisted web that we live in. Exactly. A very chill web. Chill web. Dying in the web.
Starting point is 01:05:19 It's my favorite kind of ED music. Chill web. My favorite form of erectile dysfunction music, ED music. What is it? EDM? Electronic. Electronic dance music?
Starting point is 01:05:29 Dance music, yeah. It's my favorite kind of EDM is chill web. Chill web. Oh, cool. Chill.web. Please join me on my new social network. Jamie, where can people find you other than at chill.web? You can find me on twitter.com at Jamie Loftus Help.
Starting point is 01:05:48 You can watch my new Comedy Central digital series called Irrational Fears. I got it pinned on my Twitter, but you can look it up. It's on YouTube, the website, the whole bit. So check it out. See Jamie in video form. Yeah, see my face. Yeah. You can.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Watch it act. Great actor. Yeah, really good actor. Hey, thanks. Great actor. Yeah, really good actor. Hey, thanks. High, solid performance. I did my freaking best. Oh, and you can find me on WikiFeet always. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Under my normal name. Right now, I will say that someone sent me an essay because it says somewhere on the internet that I'm 5'4", and so they took pictures from when we take pictures here and tried to figure out what my foot size is and so right now my shoe size is 5.5 that is not true so are you going to tell them what it is
Starting point is 01:06:31 no my challenge to work harder to the foot freaks is I'm six feet tall so do the math again six feet tall and you weigh like 220 yeah I weigh six feet tall 220 I'm swole. Yeah, you're swole.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Extremely swole. You're swole as fuck. Shoe size 5.5 is wrong. Figure it out. Miles, what about you? How tall are you and what is your shoe size? Oh, man, I am six foot. Look, I'm not going to tell y'all because I'm lying.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Anyway, don't worry about that. I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray, so just follow me there. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on You can find me at jack__obrien on Twitter. We are at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes!
Starting point is 01:07:16 We'll link off to the sources of the information in today's episode. That is going to do it for today. Miles, what are we going to write out? Man, God, it's such a holy week for me. You know what I mean? It's going to be good Friday. It's 420. And, you know, I want to drop a fact on you guys.
Starting point is 01:07:34 It's projected that by 2030, legal weed will outsell soda. So get ready for that wave. A new study that came out that will be in the footnotes. But today, for a song, I just want to drop on you, like, oh, just an OG sort of stoner classic. This is Devin the Dude, who, you know, like, not many people really know about his solo career. You know him as more featuring on, like, Trey's album and other artists. But this is from Devin the Dude.
Starting point is 01:07:58 The song is called Doobie Ash Trey. And, you know, this is just one of those, like, old stoner hip-hop songs. It's amazing. So enjoy that. Yeah. Do Be Ashtray by Devin the Dude. Enjoy your Monday. And also, guys, again, just contribute to the atmosphere of positivity, love, and if
Starting point is 01:08:15 you see some dumb shit going on, say something. You know what I mean? Man, even cool pot smokers are such dorks about pot. It's so funny. Do Be Ashtray. Yeah. Oh, man. I love so funny. Do be ashtray. Yeah. Oh man. I love that weed culture is officially lame.
Starting point is 01:08:29 I'm so glad it's sanctioned by the law and therefore lame. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you then. Bye. What you gonna do when the people go home And you wanna smoke weed but the reef is all gone And somebody had the nerve to take the herb
Starting point is 01:09:01 I love the doobie ass tray, why they do me that way? What you gonna do when your friends go home and you wanna drink a beer but your ends all gone? Somebody had the nerve to take the herb out my doobie ass tray, why they do me that way? You probably don't have a big ol' house on the hill, but if you did just imagine how would it feel if your phone got disconnected no cash your gas cut off and the gal that you had that was helping just step the fuck off she took the kid the dog and the kitty and everybody know you're at a low they feel pity and what's really fucked up is now you're just normal no morees, no more clothes Can't go to the show cause it's formal And you wonder why, why, why, why, why And you resort to getting high
Starting point is 01:09:50 But you can't find your stash And you never took the time to ask yourself What you gonna do when the people go home And you wanna smoke weed but the reefer's all gone And somebody had the nerve to take the herb out of the doobie ass tray why they do me that way what you gonna do when your friends go home and you wanna drink a beer but your ends all gone somebody had the nerve to take the herb out my doobie ass tray why they do me that way? You probably don't have a lot of money
Starting point is 01:10:26 But if you did, would you find it funny? If you lent it and you spent it and you didn't invest Or put it in the bank so it can gain some interest You just went and got the biggest car you can find And a couple of mo' just like it so your friends can follow behind Never mind how much it cost, you cop the best weed to smoke and for her or for a coat you got jet skis and boats and next thing you're broke and the yacht that you got it won't sail or float you look back and try to catch someone's attention for help you made a right at the license they made a left and you ask yourself
Starting point is 01:11:03 what you gonna do when the people go home And you wanna smoke weed but the reefer's all gone Somebody had the nerve to take the herb I love the doobie ass tray, why'd they do me that way? What you gonna do when your friends go home And you wanna drink a beer but your ends all gone Somebody had the nerve to take the girl But my doobie ass say
Starting point is 01:11:27 Why they do me that way Why they do me that way? Ain't no more doobies in the train What you gonna do when the people go home? Wanna smoke some weed but the reef is all gone What you gonna do when your friends go home? You wanna drink a beer but your end's all gone Gone, gone, gone Gone, gone, gone Gone, gone, gone Oh no
Starting point is 01:12:50 Oh no Uh oh Uh oh Shit I think I found I found Hey I found a... Hey! I found a bag of weed! And it...
Starting point is 01:13:11 Smell pretty motherfuckin' good. Yeah. I'm gonna call up some more potters and stuff in there. Smoke. Bring the cigars, nigga! I don't know a fuck about the smoke Bring the cigars, nigga Don't front Don't front Don't front
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