The Daily Zeitgeist - Biden Slidin’, Too Many Tens 2.19.20

Episode Date: February 19, 2020

In episode 572, Jack and Miles are joined by Couples Therapy podcast's Andy Beckerman to discuss All Star Weekend, a check in with the polls, Subway's new deal, Boy Scouts of America filing for bankru...ptcy, and more!FOOTNOTES: NBA All-Star Weekend Winners and Losers: New All-Star Game format shines; Aaron Gordon robbed again Sanders opens 12-point lead nationally: poll Subway’s latest deal great for customers, potentially disastrous for franchise owners Boy Scouts of America Files for Bankruptcy After Surge in Sex Abuse Lawsuits WATCH: Drugdealer - Suddenly Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 121 episode 2 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iHeartRadio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers and Buck Fox News. It's Wednesday, February 19th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. O'Bri. On the DZ. That is courtesy of Dr. Studley Batman. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host mr miles gray hey great my
Starting point is 00:02:49 name is miles of gray forever a host of the dailies at guys and that is from christy christopher christina william yamaguchi main i will abide neither of those, I think is what our guest is saying. Okay, well, I would just like to say a shout-out to Chris Yamaguchi-Maine. Yeah. Pulled up in real life. In real. To the show. Great to meet you, amongst many other people.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Shout-out to the man at the DC show who was the listener who came up with Mangazi. Yeah. Who we will continue not to say his name. I told him, I was like, I'm going to forget, but tell me your name again so I can properly shout you out. He tweeted it at us. Ah, damn it. Can I shout out some sidekangers? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Shout out, I forget their names, but to the two wonderful people that came up to me and said hello. They don't even know who you are, bro. At the Mythic Quest premiere. Okay. And they said they heard me here. And what kind of people they were. Awesome. Where was this at? What city? This is here in sunny
Starting point is 00:03:52 Los Angeles, California. Hey, guys. It's the morning drive time. Squeeze. Just keep doing that. I want to see you go. Come on, don't. Yorf. No. Yorf. Yorf.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Bing, bing, bing. Hey, it's everyone's favorite Michael Winslow impersonator here on Daily Zeitgeist. Michael Winslow impersonator. He does impersonations of impersonations of sound effects. They're not great, but. It's even worse. It's a white guy in blackface. And you're like, oh, bro, you're going to have to do all of thisations of sound effects. They're not great, but... It's even worse. It's a white guy in blackface. And you're like, oh, bro, you're going to have to do all of this.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Oh, bro. Wait, I thought that was part of the impersonation. Yeah, see, no one asked me. We might as well introduce you. I learned how to do impersonations from Al Jolson himself. Jesus. Oh, a double Jesus. That voice you hear is the hilarious and talented Andy Beckerman.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Hey. What's up, man? Hello. How are you doing in this beautiful morning? Oh, Lord. How are you feeling? Terrible. With your caffeine.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I know you've been kicking the DC, the Diet Coke. You just got a little bit of that Celsius in you. I got the Celsius. It's got sucralose. I took a caffeine pill. I will be off. Wow. That is his promise to you.
Starting point is 00:05:10 That's a promise. Jokes will be flying. Well. Miles. Yes. The energy took a real 90 degree turn there. On that note. You're like, all right, I can't deal with this guy.
Starting point is 00:05:27 I feel like, Jack, that is our energy in general. When we're having conversations off mic. You're like, I don't know how to deal with this guy. A lot of energy coming at me. I'm a low energy type of person. Your kids get all the attention for that. And you don't have it for the strange weirdo in your professional life in my closet
Starting point is 00:05:47 I do by the way he rents me his closet well sometimes you just show up and unannounced hey man we all gotta get back on our feet in one way or another alright Miles we are going on tour we've been on tour you and I and
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Starting point is 00:06:39 For tickets, go to dailyzeitgeist.com and go to the Live Appearances tab for links to the tickets. Andy, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about. But you should feel free to chime in if you'd like to as we're telling them what we're talking about. We are going to do our standard four-day-old news story and tell you what we thought of the All-Star festivities this weekend in Chicago. NBA All-Star
Starting point is 00:07:07 weekend. It was an eventful, fun weekend. I had a weekend. Thank you for clarifying NBA. Yes, NBA. Indeed. Did you say NDA? NDA. The NDA All-Stars. We can't tell you who they are. Mike
Starting point is 00:07:23 Bloomberg's NDA All-stars. The NDA all-stars. We can't tell you who they are. Mike Bloomberg's NDA all-star weekend. All 64 women that have accused him of sexual harassment. More than Trump. That's wild. We're going to check in with the polls. Speaking of Mike Bloomberg, he is surging. Because despite the fact that he wasn't in either of the first primaries, because Bernie won New Hampshire.
Starting point is 00:07:49 And Iowa. It turned into the. And Iowa. And Iowa. He won the popular vote in Iowa. It became a Mike Bloomberg bounce where the mainstream media was like, well, what about this Bloomberg guy? What about this rich guy that's giving us all this money? What should we say about him? Yeah. guy because what about this rich guy has given us all this money yeah what should we say about him yeah uh we're going to talk about klobuchar because uh how she picked the colors of her campaign we're unsure if this is a bit or if it's reality but if it's true uh she is our new queen
Starting point is 00:08:17 uh we are going to talk about the white house correspondence dinner uh making a comeback wait that happened there no it's going to. Oh, okay. But they actually hired a comedian this year instead of a conservative writer or biographer. Oh, yeah. Who was it last year? I think it was the guy who wrote Hamilton. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Not Lin-Manuel Miranda. The guy who wrote the Hamilton biography that Lin-Manuel Miranda. Yeah, exactly. Wait, are they getting the guy who does those song parodies? Yeah, finally a return to comedy. I'm wearing
Starting point is 00:08:58 tights. All I can think of is the parody of that guy. I can't picture... I don't know what he was actually like. I know the Mr. Show parody of that guy. I can't picture. I don't know what he was actually like. I know the Mr. Show parody was very funny. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We're going to talk about Boy Scouts because they are declaring bankruptcy. Moral bankruptcy.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Moral bankruptcy and literal bankruptcy. And strategic literal bankruptcy. Yeah, should have sold some Boy Scout cookies. We're going to talk about Subway going, putting their, what are the people called who own the? Franchisees. Franchisees. They're putting their franchisees in a difficult position. We're going to talk about National Chocolate Mint Day.
Starting point is 00:09:41 We're going to talk about Target's shipped. We're going to talk about one of the great places to work, Target Shipped. Dog Owner Poll and Kickstarter actually may be a good place to work. But first, Andy, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, great question. I searched. I mean, there was like basic things
Starting point is 00:10:06 like I was searching like the cast of High Fidelity, but Electrolyte Tab. Electrolyte Tab. Yes. And then when that actually got me to tabs of stuff with Electrolyte and then I had to look up Electrolyte Tab REM. I was looking up how to play.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I've been listening to New Adventures in Hi-Fi lately. It's a good album. It really is. It is a... Agreed, sir. It is kind of one that... It's the last one with Bill Barry. Is it really?
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, it's the last one. Then he had the aneurysm, and then Up was the first one, the next album. What band are you talking about? REM. Oh, okay. Electrolyte is, I would say, a top 10 R.E.M. song. It's just pure. It's like they took the pure kind of pop goofiness of shiny, happy people,
Starting point is 00:10:58 but actually did it earnestly instead of ironically. And it's just really a pure pop piano jam. It's fantastic, and it's very easy to play. I was too lazy to just figure it out on my own. When you said electrolyte tab. Latest conversation we've had on this show in a long time. No, I mean, yeah. At first, I thought you were talking about that there was a tab soda
Starting point is 00:11:20 that was fortified with electrolytes. And I was like, that's a weird hangover. I was assuming it was. Look, I quit Diet Coke. What else am I supposed to do? Do the electrolyte tab. You've already talked about caffeine pills. I thought you were taking pills with electrolytes in them.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Just purely pill-based diet. I need Diet Right with electrolytes. Yeah, there's some great songs on that album. Yeah, it's a fantastic album, and I think people kind of gloss over it. Right. For whatever reason. I guess, you know, like post-Automatic for the people, I think Monster really turned
Starting point is 00:11:52 a lot of people off. Monster's really good, too, actually. Monster has some good songs. Monster's got some bangers. Overall, I would give it a B. A B in terms of their catalog. In the R.E.M. canon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:04 Miles, where do you think it falls? Oh, that one? Quick, top 10 R.E.M. Is that one? Let's turn this into, are you talking R.E.M.? Yeah, right, right. Oh, I mean, what is the frequency, Kenneth? Hey, he knows it.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Is that literally the only R.E.M. song you know? Nah, Man on the Moon. Everybody knows the hits off of Automatic. I only know the shit. Yeah, exactly. I know those. That's why when you start going to other albums, I'm like, I didn't follow them enough to know that much.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I don't know who Michael Stipe is, but that's about the edges of my R.E.M. knowledge. Favorite song on Murmur? Oh, God. Favorite song on Murmur? Oh, God. Favorite song? Andy, what is something you think is overrated? Great question. Let's keep this all REM-based.
Starting point is 00:12:56 What's an REM album you think is overrated? By the way, let's start with Miles. Honestly, when I was a kid, the one with uh green and document were the ones where that made me not want to listen to r i i only discovered rim because of automatic for the people because when document and green were they were kind of like cheesy like losing my religion but you go back and there are great songs i'm losing my religions on out of time sorry out of time thank you right i love that i Time. I meant Out of Time and Green.
Starting point is 00:13:25 That's funny you didn't know that. Because I didn't really pay attention to those until like last year. I was like so into Losing My Religion when that song was a hit. I like made my dad listen to it. I was like, what do you think they're talking about there? All I liked was the weird owl on his owl TV. He did a version of it where he was just making
Starting point is 00:13:42 fart sounds. Oh really? And it was great. Overrated? Yeah. Okay. By the really? And it was great. Overrated? Yeah. Okay. By the way, when someone says great question, that just means that they haven't heard that question before or they're stalling for time. Mine was stalling for time as I opened my phone.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Great question. What's something that's overrated? Great question that I've answered the other three times I've been on the show. Great question. Green is the sixth studio album by American rock band R.E.M. released on November 7th, 1988 by Warner Brothers Records. So that's my input. True.
Starting point is 00:14:12 The children of famous people doing the same thing their famous parents did. Yeah. I have been thinking about this a lot lately. Yeah. Especially since moving to Hollywood and being like, oh, this isn't a meritocracy i see i think if you are the child of a famous person whatever they did whether they're an actor a
Starting point is 00:14:33 musician uh miles in your case a famous uh collage artist not only recently i won't i won't give him that wow there should be a 10-year moratorium on doing the same thing that they're... So if, say, you're like the child of an actor. Say you're Michael Douglas. Right. And you're like, I want to be an actor. You can't be an actor until you're 10 years old? No, 10 years later from that decision.
Starting point is 00:14:57 You should have to wait 10 years. There should be a federal nepotism commission. Oh. Not to root out corruption and nepotism. Right. Because that's just everywhere. Just to make it. We're going to have to, once Bernie wins, we will start reforming the system.
Starting point is 00:15:10 You want to make nepotism a little more equitable. Yes. You want them to have to experience the slog and grind a little bit. I want to take back the nepotism from the billionaires and redistribute it. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Socialist nepotism is what I'm looking for.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Nearpotism. I'm going to change nepotism into nearpotism. Is there someone you look at specifically? Because it sounds like you've been thinking, who's on your list here? Why are you doing the thing your parents do? No one I can say and still have a career. I was going to say, ah, missed that one.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yes, so I can just say, Michael Douglas. Who is a good actor? Taking shots at Michael Douglas. Well, no shots fired for Michael Douglas because he's a good actor. So I'm like, okay, that's a safe one. Come on, put your career on the line right now. No! It's worth it.
Starting point is 00:15:57 We have three beautiful pets whose mouths need food. Oh, yeah. I was just going to say something, but I'm not. Okay, yeah. No, the pets' mouths need food. Naomi and, I was just gonna say something, but I'm not. Okay, yeah, no, the pets' mouths need food. Naomi and I both self-made relatively. Our parents working in middle class, so I feel safe in saying this. Saying.
Starting point is 00:16:16 But like Michael Douglas, there would be a federal nepotism commission. You would have to pass a test. Right. And you would have to show that you are as, say you're an actor, as charismatic or more charismatic
Starting point is 00:16:29 or as skilled in the dramatic arts. Right. Or more skilled than your parent. Right. Who did it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:36 Just leave it alone at that point. Yes. And if not, sorry, you're just going to have to live on their riches or find something else to do.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Right. Find another way to soothe your ego. One of the other things that rich people funnel their children into finance, nonprofits, politics. Trying to think of examples where the, the,
Starting point is 00:16:54 the offspring was more skilled than the previous generation. Yeah. And are we only saying, well, but Kobe Bryant. So I think there's a thing in sports. There's a lot of athletes who are much better than their parents. There's a thing in sports, yeah, where it is a pure meritocracy and somebody gets, like,
Starting point is 00:17:13 just has the ability. First of all, it's not a lot of information that needs to be passed down, but you get it at an early age. Right. And then you're also just constantly around the game. So, like, you pick up things that can't be put into words. By osmosis, you're getting 10,000 hours by age four. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I think it happens in football coaching a little bit. I don't know about basketball coaching, but football coaching with... Jack, only one way to find out. I know. With Mike Shanahan's kid is like pretty brilliant. Like he's. He's a coach of the Niners. He's a coach of the Niners.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Yeah. Here's a question. Besides Colin Kaepernick, are there other political. So sports does feel like the true meritocracy. Right. If you're good at it, you will get a chance. Right. How many people like are there like Colin Ka kaepernick who who um are politically
Starting point is 00:18:06 blacklisted and even though they are good right and are like top tier uh performers right top tier in whatever sport they're playing are blacklisted i mean every baseball player before jackie robinson's like they should be be viewed as skeptically as anybody during the steroid era. If you're looking at their stats, they're playing against half the best players in the country. Whitey Ford.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Who I only know from a Simpsons episode. And that one album. Whose album was Whitey Ford Sings the Blues? Oh, Everlast Blues? Oh Everlast It was Everlast Would you say Chris Jackson Mahmoud Abdul Raouf
Starting point is 00:18:50 Yeah he was kind of blacklisted He wouldn't stand for the national anthem Back then because he was like this is a symbol of oppression But he was doing that in the 90s And they were like you're Muslim The mainstream media was just like fuck you When the mainstream media Was Islamophobic and not anymore. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Unfortunately, we fixed all that. What is something you think is underrated? Great question. Thanks. I had a lot of thoughts for this one, but I think I'm going to go with John Sayles films. And I think underrated in terms of like culture at large,
Starting point is 00:19:27 I think within film, within the like people who know about film, John sales is exactly rated as he should be, which is as a fantastic filmmaker. Right. Do you guys know John sales films? I do. No.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Uh, eight men out, uh, lone star. Okay. No, no. Yeah. Brother from another planet,one Star is one of my favorites. Made Wands. Okay, I know Lone Star.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Brother from Another Planet. Passion Fish. There's a ton. The Secret of Roninish is one of my favorites. Passion Fish. I think it's Passion Fish is the one where it just blew my mind. It starts off as a rom-com, and then halfway through it turns into a thriller. The genre just changes.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It's not jarring, though. I think it's Passion Fish. It's one of his. I think that's the one of like mary mcdonald and david strathairn but he makes films that are social films but they're not like issue films if that makes any sense like crash is a issue film right not the jg ballard crash crash, the one that's about racism. It's an important film about racism. The one that solved racism. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:29 But the characters live in a social reality, and they are like – do you guys watch The Expanse or read The Expanse books? No, I know a lot of people are loving it, though. They're pretty good. They're not great, but they're pretty good and they have the characters living in a political reality and they're affected by politics without there being like this is this book is going to deal with terrorism right without having like a capital letter issue that they're going to deal with they're just like they live in a social reality and that affects who they are and what they do same thing with john sales except down to earth and more believable characters. And, you know, it's about the world we live in. He's been making movies,
Starting point is 00:21:06 uh, or he hasn't made a movie since 2013. Yes. It's tough for him to get financing. Yeah. Um, but he makes a living as a screenwriter. He's been making films.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I was reminded of John sales because he was on Michael Moore's podcast. Oh, and I was just like, Oh God, I love John sales films. Yeah. I just haven't watched one in a while, I guess, because he hasn't made one in a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I like the two that I've seen quite a bit, like a lot, Lone Star and The Secret of Roninish, and never bothered to go out and see the other ones. So I got to do that. Oh, they're all great. I haven't seen a bad one. Okay. Yeah. John Sayles. Shout out to John Sayles. I haven't seen a bad one. Okay. Yeah. John Sayles.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Shout out to John Sayles. I think he's made 18 films? Yeah. He's made quite a few. Finally, what is a myth, Andy? What is something people think is true that you know to be false, or is something false that you know to be true? Right, so... Or something people think is false you know to be true. I was arguing with a friend on Facebook, which was already...
Starting point is 00:22:04 I love every story that begins with this one. Look, I was arguing with a friend on Facebook, which was already... I love every story that begins with this one. Look, I get it. A friend or some random asshole you used to work with at a t-shirt store like years ago? No, a friend from UCB. Okay. But look, I was on Facebook to procrastinate from a writing
Starting point is 00:22:20 project I should have been working on, okay? Just so everyone's clear, I'm not 70 years old. I don't regularly go on Facebook. I was just like... Do about eight push-ups Just so everyone's clear. I'm not 70 years old. I don't really go on Facebook. I was just like, do about eight pushups. And then you're like, I'm ready. I was so tired of Twitter.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Twitter was like fecal fine. My brain, it was just like, just like unrelenting with political stuff. And I'm like, Oh, maybe I'll go to Facebook. Much better.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It'll be better. It wasn't, but he was saying that like, he was angry I'll go to Facebook. Wow. Much better. It'll be better. It wasn't. But he was saying that like he was angry. He's like that people were saying rightly so that Bernie was the most feminist candidate running. And he was like, there are two women running. I'm sorry. And I'm just like, I thought if I engage with him without being like an asshole with just being like, Hey, I, I, when I was a philosophy professor, I taught a class on philosophy of feminism.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I was just like, without saying that, without like throwing my credentials in his face, I was like, Hey, that's not what feminism is. It doesn't just mean that whatever your genitalia are, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:16 if you happen to have female genitalia, you're a feminist. Right. It doesn't mean that like, it means that you are fighting, whatever your policies are or whatever you're saying is fighting for equality. It is fighting for, you know, fair wages for everyone. It is bringing men, women and all non-binary people all onto the same level. That's what true feminism is. I don't know. My favorite feminist is Barbara Bush. So like feminism has nothing to do. It has to do with like the policies.
Starting point is 00:23:49 What was this person saying exactly when you were bringing up your point about feminism exactly? This person was purely narrowly just saying because there are two women in it? Yes. That therefore they are more feminist. That Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren are more feminist that Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren are more feminist Elizabeth Warren I don't have much of a problem with besides I don't think that she her policies
Starting point is 00:24:15 are as radical as Bernie's and I don't think she has an actual movement behind her by radical you mean the 90s skateboarder sense yeah yeah yeah she's never ollied I've never seen her once do the thing where her skateboard By radical, you mean the 90s skateboarder sense, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's never ollied. Right. I've never seen her once do the thing where her skateboard is sliding.
Starting point is 00:24:32 The middle of it is sliding. A board slide? Yeah. I've never seen her do a board slide. Hold on, bro. You're not equipped to talk about what's radical. You don't even know what a board slide was. This dude's a toy.
Starting point is 00:24:42 I go to the skate park every day. I have not seen Warren there once. Right. How many times have I seen Bernie at the skate park every day. I have not seen Warren there once. Right. How many times have I seen Bernie at the skate park? She says she's in favor of half pipes, but her policies don't support it. How many times have I seen Bernie at the abandoned pool where we all skate? Right. Once a week.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Yeah. But Beto's there every day. Right. Well, he's not in the, he's not in it anymore. All right. Focus on the Borden dude. Man, I was just born to be in it. That was one of his quotes. I think that was the quote on the boarding, dude. Man, I was just born to be in it. That was one of his quotes.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I think that was the quote on the cover of Vanity Fair. It was just like, what? I saw Didgey Beto there listening to classic Black Flag, pre-Rollins Black Flag. Look at him. So you know what? Skateboarding barefoot. Credit where credit's due.
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Starting point is 00:29:39 but it wasn't the weirdest national anthem. It wasn't Fergie. Right, it wasn't Fergie weird. What was Fergie's? It was just... It was like scat jazz from hell. It was like she really took creative license. Humpity hump, humps, humps, humps, humps.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Nearly. What was it? She just went... Yeah. Chaka Khan went just more like... She just had a different melody. It had a different melody. It was a different. It just sounded different enough that I had to check the lyrics to make sure she was singing the same.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Yeah, I'm not going to come for Chaka Khan. No, but exactly. It's like, what did you did you think she was just going to do a straightforward rendition? No, no. Was Fergie also the NBA All-Star Game? Yes, it was. I feel like the NBA is like, and also, have fun with this one. Remember she was all,
Starting point is 00:30:31 and everyone was like, are you fucking the National Anthem? Hey, man. The only people that do straightforward renditions? The CIA. Thank you, folks. Oh, boy. Straightforward renditions. Here we go. The dunk contest was, I mean, some people are mad about the outcome.
Starting point is 00:30:51 It was still, like, I don't remember dunk contests by who wins. I remember them by, like, the dunks that were done, and there were some pretty incredible dunks. The scoring system is obviously fucked. Terrible. Always has been. The dunk contest, I was watching it, and I could not stand how many perfect 10s they were giving out.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Yeah. Which sort of makes, there's no way to actually discern or differentiate between these dunks if everyone's getting perfect 10s just because they executed. It sounds like the MTV basketball game. Rock and Jock? Yeah. Which needs to come back.
Starting point is 00:31:24 It's similar. Rock and Jock must come. Which needs to come back. It's similar. Rock and Jock must come back. Viacom, if you're listening, I know you are because I owe you money. But please bring Rock and Jock back. That's a game we deserve. Overall, it was one of the best dunk contests I've ever seen. Wait, you owe Viacom money? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:38 It's a lot. They owe me money. So do you want to just pay me straight? Yeah, let's straighten that out. I'll be like, yeah, I give to Andy. But yeah, look, Derek Jones Jr., people debate whether he should have won or not. I think he did fantastic. I really think the people, Aaron Gordon can be upset because of the scoring system.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Ultimately, I think things come down to dunks that need to be scored a certain way. And if everyone's really tight going into the last round, then just any deviation ends up meaning throwing the the entire thing when yeah he kept escalating he was uh you know yes anding on every day i think he had the best dunk of the contest with the off the side of the backboard thrown by markel fultz by the way shout out 76ers who also missed the backboard with his first toss i was like of all the people of all the people to put in a high-pressure situation, you're putting Markel Fultz, the dude who just forgot how to shoot after being the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:32:34 He's doing better now. Yeah, he's doing much better. That dunk where he threw it off the backboard, caught it with one hand, and did a 360 was one of the craziest dunks. And then the All-Star game was also dope. The fourth quarter where it was like first to, I think it was like 157 or something. And they started playing defense and getting real competitive.
Starting point is 00:32:56 It was really fun. It was definitely the most fun stretch of All-Star game I've ever seen. Yes. Also, get better judges for the dunk contest you know like shout out to common and chadwick boseman but like put people judges put people in who like can dunk yeah or have like a great idea of like body mechanics like get misty copeland in there yeah who's your dream judges for the dunk contest? Vince Carter. Okay. Misty Copeland.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Simone Biles. Dominique Wilkins. Who? And Michael Irving. Yeah. Wait, what? Hey, he was dope in the celebrity dunk contest like in the 80s. But I just think I would love to see people who understand movement too.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Right. Like Simone Biles or Misty Copeland might look at it very differently. I do think Simone Biles. Yeah, right. Somebody. I just like, you know, and I get it. You want to have like Chicago people in there too thematically. And I get that it makes sense to get people in it.
Starting point is 00:33:57 But I also would love to just see like get people you can also see having a bit of expertise in there. I feel like the more scientific you make a judging thing like that, the worse it becomes because it'll then become like the Olympic, like Olympic gymnastics or Olympic diving, where it's like, you have to like hit these three points and then you like, so people like get, start gamifying it where this is more all around phenomenological. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:23 so then how are you a technocratic solutions? Yes. Are not the way to go. Or all around phenomenological. I agree with you. Technocratic solutions are not the way to go. Always the way to go. No, not the opposite. We're saying that they're not the way to go. You have to understand it as totality. Right. It's a Hegelian understanding of the dunk contest. So then what would we do?
Starting point is 00:34:39 A 60-40 split? How many? I think, look, if you're doing five judges, three are people who like know the dunk and then two are just people who are going to give you like the oh shit score right yes yeah i would go three two the other way so you couldn't game fight because if you still are winning on three judge cards okay yeah democratize it a little bit yeah democratize and then whoever has a movie coming out they're right right like queen and slim yeah if queen
Starting point is 00:35:04 and slim's coming out you have them as the or you have yeah sonic the hedgehog right you have ben schwartz and cyclops what's his name james morrison anyways that was all-star weekend it was it was a rousing success miles you were there are we talking about that yeah i was there you were there that's all we got to say yeah i was there look i love you were voted to the eastern also or the western all-stars but you were injured so you i was injured so i let lebron hop in we're classmates we're both uh shout out class of 03 so out of solidarity i was like you know maybe you should do this one yeah yeah all right let's check in with the polls where the democratic primary is polling
Starting point is 00:35:45 at the moment npr pbs released a poll that has bloomberg surging and biden slipping and that's all the mainstream media seems to be yeah or you look yeah there's uh who i wonder who's at first what is what's the number one i don't know what you're talking some guy named bernard sandars right uh by the way this is a clang on name bernard sandars yeah yeah uh he's at 31 percent and up nine points since the last uh poll from last month biden has gone down nine points to 15 percent bloomberg second place with 19 that's 15 percentage points that he shot up since the last poll and then with that that means uh elizabeth warren she had a five point slide amy klobuchar had a five point increase and mayor pete uh also had a bit of a decrease as well he went down five points to be fair though, Amy Klobuchar has that increase
Starting point is 00:36:46 because she was throwing things at the people that were taking the poll at the time, and she was screaming at them to vote for her. She's got a lot of, you know, there's a lot of interesting momentum around her. Clubmentum. Clubmentum, sorry, yeah. You mispronounced that.
Starting point is 00:37:01 The clubmentum. And, like, it's funny to see after Iowa, like the media try and figure out, do they want to lean more into Mike Bloomberg or sort of treat Amy Sanders or Amy Sanders, Amy Klobuchar sort of like a outsider Cinderella picks quite possibly. Well, the New York times has been constantly pushing for Klobuchar.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Yeah. Like when she was, when she had absolutely no club mentum at all, they were like, she's going to be great. And so it's – now that that pushed her a little bit above, it's interesting to see – it's interesting to see propaganda play out in front of your eyes. Right? Like Bloomberg using his vast wealth to press propaganda. It's like, oh, wow, it's working with because most people, their brains have not been fecalfied by online politics. Right. And they just kind of like if they hear an ad like Naomi and I were.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Oh, when we were at Sketch Fest, we were in a lift and they had the radio on. We heard it was just like one ad for Bloomberg, one ad for Buttigieg, one ad for Bloomberg, like over and over again. One for me and one for you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's but that's the point, right? Like in these campaigns, targeted ads are meant to get your numbers up.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And I guess when you saturate, that's what you're seeing. And if you went off the ads, you would think Obama himself was like, this is the guy. This is the guy. And the ads, you would think Obama himself was like, this is the guy, right? This is the guy. And the ads are very slick. So I, you know, when you look somebody who is not really keeping up with what the stakes are in this election or what the backgrounds are of some of these candidates,
Starting point is 00:38:35 you'd look at a Bloomberg guy and be like, damn, this guy sounds pretty good. He put on like this black, uh, does like architecture firm, but like has been trying to, and then put them in jail.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah. Don't no mention of that. Although gosh, some of the rallies were very interesting when like a protester put up a sign that says he protects racist systems on the podium. And then like, you're like, get that off,
Starting point is 00:38:55 get that off. I would totally vote for this cruel bloodless vampire over the vulgar screaming white supremacist. It's if it becomes Bloomberg versus Trump, it's officially, democracy is officially. The darkest day. Yeah, it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:13 that's funeral, like November, whatever, third. What is it going to be this year? Is officially as the bedtime for democracy for the dead Kennedys. Yeah. As Beto O'Rourke was telling me when we were skating together. So 538, which has a blended average, has a lot of very bad news for the DNC in their projection.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Because they have Bernie up by a lot on any other candidate, but he's tied with nobody getting the majority, which ends in a brokered convention, essentially, which both seem like apocalyptic scenarios for them, because I don't know which one they want less, I guess, is my question. They would probably prefer a brokered convention right they're willing to destroy the part we you saw it in iowa they're they were willing to destroy the iowa caucuses that's one thing in order to prevent bernie they
Starting point is 00:40:15 are willing to destroy the party because they are it doesn't for the top people in the dnc and in the democratic party their lives don't change if they destroy the party. They are still very wealthy. They still have a lot of power. Well, we were talking about how Tom Perez had this golden parachute built into his DNC contract, whereas if shit went south, he was still getting a payout. So even if the worst case scenario to the establishment happened and Bernie were to get the nomination, he could jettison and get a check. But then people were like, there was so much scrutiny on it.
Starting point is 00:40:47 They'd be like, Oh, I was just joking about that. I'm not, I'm not going to take a check. If I leave, I will say, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I don't know. I haven't made my decision fully whether Iowa was like specifically, uh, engineered incompetence or actual, just like dumb incompetence. personally that's i i don't know but uh but even in the wake of it i i agree we i don't think there's enough information to know but even in the wake of it where they've where they did everything they could to not come to a decision quickly or leak out information when it was when it helped buddha judge right
Starting point is 00:41:26 right when they're like at 60 why 62 that's the questions i have where it's just like oh well because or like the uh sdes right a metric we've never used in the fucking entire existence of the iowa caucuses no one said i thought that's what it usually was. But you've never decided, you've never, when have you ever seen someone be like, oh, I won because I have more SDEs? Right. Well, I think- Right, state delegate equivalents? Isn't that what it is?
Starting point is 00:41:53 Yeah. But I think the reason, I think the popular vote was the thing that wasn't typically reported. Well, because it's about the delegates. Right. It's usually about the delegates, I think. Do you think it breaks the party? I don't know. It's about the delegates. Right. It's usually about the delegates, I think. Do you think it breaks the party? I don't know. It's tough to know.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I mean, because it's a really dark situation to be in. You go to a brokered convention. Where they will steal it from. You use the superdelegates to rat fuck in whatever way you want to. And then people are going to be like, what is this? Because the will of the voters is one way. Because I think the superdelegates this because the will of the voters is one way but now you're and like because i think the super delegates control about 16 of the delegates there so if like it's split with like bernie has a third and the other two thirds are spread around
Starting point is 00:42:35 four or five candidates that's 16 if it goes all into one person that can do a lot yeah and i think that's where it gets interesting and you would I just think it would be a terrible, terrible, terrible thing to have a brokered convention because I could just see how much momentum, excitement, enthusiasm is just taken out at that point. But again, that's the kind of chaos that the right would love to see, because that's sort of what they're used to seeing the Democrats sort of do. It's like somehow they've created their own problem and weakened themselves. Yes. But because they really do want what the right wants. I really do count centrists on the right. I don't think there really is an actual center.
Starting point is 00:43:15 They actually do want fascism. They just want people to be nicer to brown and gay people. Sure. That's really all they want, but they still want basically fascism. I think that, yeah, I think whether that's through like oppressive systems of like,
Starting point is 00:43:33 you know, our, how our financial systems work. I think that's really like the overlap there. Cause they're both like, look, we're both not going to like make it hot for the rich. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Be real here. Yeah. We can, we'll differ on those other things, but we will hold the line for like the billionaire class yeah and that's that's where their similarities are for sure yeah that's what i meant i don't mean trump himself ripped the mask off i mean his election that was the end of us being able to pretend that there is a rational discourse that can be had yeah no i don't think he yeah i didn't think you were conscious saying he like consciously no he's a yeah yeah he's a turd yeah but i think genuinely i do think he's
Starting point is 00:44:11 a symptom of you know a lot of problems we're seeing going on which is i think people are generally becoming more aware of you know the how the system works and like some myths that we were all uh buying into as a culture and as a zeitgeist are kind of going away because people are getting i don't know uh one thing that i do think just in talking about uh 538's analysis which has Sanders and broker convention tied, is in kind of explaining how they came up with these numbers and what the model's predicting. Nate Silver was saying that the model was surprised that Bernie didn't get more of a bump after Iowa and New Hampshire. And they were saying that could be because he has a ceiling in terms of his support. But I think it has more to do with the fact that the mainstream media just didn't cover him as a winner. Did you see when de Blasio endorsed him?
Starting point is 00:45:17 It was either CNN or MSNBC says the headline was de Blasio endorses Democrat. It wouldn't even. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't sayes Democrat. It wouldn't even. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They wouldn't say Bernie Sanders. It wouldn't even name him. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:45:32 It would be funny if there weren't real repercussions. Yeah. And if people's lives weren't on the line and like a better society wasn't on the line. Yeah. It would be genuinely hilarious. Yeah. So I just want to say that like I think 538 does a pretty good job of like bringing all the
Starting point is 00:45:49 available statistics together I think one huge blind spot they have is that they are owned by a major media mainstream media corporation and so they don't take the mainstream media bias into account. And I think that really the rest of the primary is going to be a story of whether Bernie and his supporters can overcome that sort of blind spot and that bias. Because it seems like the mainstream media is going to try and focus on whoever is the moderate. Again, despite the bizarro coverage, the numbers still increase. Yeah, just not as much as they were expecting. Yeah, and I think that's where you see, again, the blind spot. And we've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:46:34 There's no element of class consciousness in the discourse in the media. So there's a few candidates who are, who have made that, and they're not being talked about because that's really the most disruptive thing that could happen in this election are people really understanding what the stakes are and then deciding from there what the solution should be. Because I think we're past the days of like, it's the people on the right are screwing this up or it's immigrant, whatever it more to like no we are in a system that is completely fucked yeah it's completely rigged yeah and that's what we that's the first step to changing yeah and i mean we've talked before about how that's not just the mainstream news that's everything about our zeitgeist and our founding uh identity myth that america is a place where you pull yourself up by the bootstraps. And it almost seems profound when like a movie talks about class because
Starting point is 00:47:29 that's like, I mean, John sales, John sales or Joker or a parasite. People were like, Whoa, wait a second. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:41 It was, it is so funny to watch like Neil Brennan or anyone who's like wealthy and has been wealthy for a long time or I don't know his class background. He used to caddy was something he said in that thread of like something about like struggle. He's like, I grew up caddying. And I'm like, what? Maybe that was a joke. I just remember seeing that and I was like, this has to be a joke.
Starting point is 00:48:04 It's so funny to watch people who have never had to think about class before suddenly have to grapple with it. And they, it blew, especially wealthy people. It just blows their mind that anyone could be again. Like I don't personally hold wealthy people. If I was wealthy or I came from a wealthy background, I wouldn't want to give up my money either, which is why you have to create a system that. Well, right. And I think that's when those arguments sort of go out the window. And when you see people start like having solidarity with billionaires, because they're used to this argument is like, well, if they get a hit, that means the people that work for them also take a hit rather than being like, hold on. The inconvenience actually trickles down to the
Starting point is 00:48:43 person at the lowest rung not the highest they're not saying none of these people in these boardrooms are like all right man we we took a hit we're gonna have to take smaller salaries next year they're like no fuck that just fucking cut off one of these offices and then we've we've we've saved ourselves a couple hundred million how many fucking viable businesses have we seen in the last year or two? Either online, look, Meltdown here in Los Angeles. They raised the rent. It was a viable business. It was one of the linchpins of the comedy community here.
Starting point is 00:49:13 A wonderful comic book store. They raised the rent so that they couldn't exist there anymore. Right. All right. What just closed down? HQ. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:22 The trivia game closed down, not because it wasn't profitable, because they wanted to be extremely profitable. And they. Yeah. Right. The trivia game closed down, not because it wasn't profitable because they wanted to be extremely profitable and they wanted to. Right. Same thing with what was the comedy thing that just shut down like two weeks ago or three weeks ago? Not sure. Not funny or die. College humor.
Starting point is 00:49:38 College humor. Yeah. College humor just shut down, not because it wasn't profitable because they wanted to be extremely profitable. Right. Right. All these things where people just want to they're just extracting without having any kind of social consciousness or care for uh making a better or more interesting society they just want to suck out as much value as possible so they can buy like what a 20th boat yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:50:01 well no that's where you see like who's who who benefits and who bears the burden of it right and it's constantly people on the lower end of the financial spectrum are the ones who bear the burden while the people just laugh their ass off on their boats and then they're like betsy devos has like you know when her 40 million dollar yacht catches fire people are like hell yeah right uh because what the fuck is are of us going to know about owning a $40 million yacht? None. Did that happen? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Like some shit happened to her yacht. There was like a kitchen fire. Or something. Or it fucking was, it got loose off the dock. She was like, see, I face adversity. Yeah, in a way. But like what you're saying, I don't know. There is this, I think people are now hopefully, and i think they are slowly starting to see who the people are
Starting point is 00:50:46 that are actually standing in the way of them being able to flourish or to be able to live in a way that feels like you have dignity and respect right we just don't you have to afford to be able to live with dignity and respect and that's the bottom line is like we're just saying there should be no price tag on that rich people eat so well the handful of times i've gotten to have a fancy meal oh my god it's so delicious it's so good or like this is the thing that drives me like the example i always use is like air travel right which is like in your face first class i mean it doesn't like it's snow pierce there's no class system yeah first class first class and broke ass class everything is commodified in air travel and
Starting point is 00:51:26 it is the worst fucking experience unless you are wealthy yeah and they make it that way too so like in a way it's like watching cribs where you see how they do it and you're like oh i would love that because where how i live is not like this and then when you're on a plane you're like these seats are so fucking small like over there the fucking shit's wider it goes back more it gets you sick because they don't clean it like the whole fucking thing is really bad could you imagine if uh sort of what we were talking about though one of the last episodes is like the cleaning is even different on the on the plane like first class like eco lab comes through and like make sure it's like surgically sanitized meanwhile like in the back they're like i don't
Starting point is 00:52:04 know for breeze of shit yeah but you can pay 10 extra dollars if you want yours cleaned well if it's like surgically sanitized. Meanwhile, like in the back, they're like, I don't know, Febreze the shit. No, but you can pay 10 extra dollars if you want yours cleaned well. If you want your seat cleaned well. If you don't pay that 10 extra dollars, you're gambling with your health. I would fucking pay that because it's really bad. You don't want to get COVID-19? I always forget to bring those wipes
Starting point is 00:52:20 that you can just wipe down your whole seat with. Always find a parent on the plane exactly they're always you're like hey let me get one let me score one real quick yeah all right dog owner yeah let's take a quick break we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months these events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
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Starting point is 00:56:46 Yeah. I did not know that $5, $5, $5 foot long went away. They killed it two years ago. Yeah. But that song is so catchy that it's still in my head to this day. Oh, yeah. Is it because Jared was so associated with the $5 foot long? No, it's because it was doing in the franchise owners.
Starting point is 00:57:06 So the deal is great for the customer, but for the restaurant owner, terrible. The margins are absolute dog shit, and you're giving money away when you sell $5 footlongs. So they – look, I love Subway, okay? I love the tuna sandwich. People know I'm certifiably, verifiably, maybe disturbed when it comes to my sandwiches. No, there's something wrong with you for sure. You're twisted. But I love the franchise owner.
Starting point is 00:57:32 You're twisted, man. I'm twisted. I fuck with Subway tuna, bruh. So the $5, they did away with it two years ago. And in the two years since, around 1,100 stores went out of business. A lot of them were saying because of this deal. Like, it's actually terrible for us to sell these sandwiches at that point. So they have a new promotion, which I'm sure franchise owners are livid about this time, starting March 5th. Subway will offer people buy one, get one free on all footlong sandwiches as long as you order online or use the app.
Starting point is 00:58:08 That's going to be terrible for the restaurant owners. What is the benefit of that? Okay, so right now- Why get people to use the app? So this is where it goes back to what's happening in the C-suite, right? Yeah. So at the very top, they're trying to say, look, we really need to make up more mobile and online business because it only makes up for one point.
Starting point is 00:58:27 This is like boardroom talk. Only 1.4% of our business. How can we grow that? Okay, so that if they do this, hopefully this promotion can get a jump to at least 5% of their sales coming from mobile or online. But what does that do? Like if it's that low, why increase? Because those are numbers that matter to Wall Street now because they've seen, like, and so it's just,
Starting point is 00:58:52 you have every quarter, you have an earnings call where you get, like, your CEO gets on the phone and talks about the quarter you just had based on the numbers that you have in front of, like, the people who invest. And then analysts ask you questions. And so a lot, basically all of a company's strategy is driven by that hour and a half long call. And people, you feel the ramifications of that all the way down the
Starting point is 00:59:22 corporate ladder. And you'd be able to say like, Hey, we increased online sales, but here's the thing. The franchisees are all asking what is, is there going to be compensation from corporate when I'm giving away a fucking sandwich every time they buy it through the app? Their answer is similar to other offers.
Starting point is 00:59:39 There is no additional compensation. Right. So, so some, so the Mark Zuckerberg of Subway. Mark. Subber. Subberberg.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Supperberg. There we go. Supperberg. Supper, dude. There we go. That's the best we're going to do. Sorry, folks. So his pocketbook gets bigger.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah. Or it's just a weird way to show weird growth that actually is negatively affecting your franchisees the guy who they have running it is like the former ceo of burger king and one of his last things he was doing at burger king was he was like wanted a one dollar double cheeseburger like promo and that was going to be sold at a loss to the franchisees they voted to reject this promotion twice and then he overruled them and was like no you're gonna sell the franchisees. They voted to reject this promotion twice, and then he overruled them. And it was like, no, you're going to sell. The franchisees.
Starting point is 01:00:28 The franchisees voted to not, to reject it, but the CEO overruled them and they had to do it. Wait, the CEO is not held accountable to the voters? This is what's weird. I mean, this is a thing that you see, like this reminds me of the overall Walmart model where like Walmart is going to all these communities and putting mom and pop shops out of business. So, you know, that money doesn't stay in the community. And it's almost like there are these vacuums that are just like sucking up all the money and like taking it to some centrally located place.
Starting point is 01:01:02 taking it to some centrally located place. And it's like, if when it comes to like, whether they're driving value for the centrally located corporation or like that local business, it's always going to be like moving value to the central headquarters. And that's why you see a lot of suffering, like all over the world where there's not these giant mega corporations located um and with this it's just another version of the same thing where it's you know
Starting point is 01:01:31 the thing that drives value for the central group is is what's being valued as opposed to you know what drives value for marks what was uh no No, it's true. What was Mitt Romney's company? Bane. Now there's a group that does it right. It's like we live in a comic book now. We do. It really does feel like that. Because they're just like,
Starting point is 01:02:00 yeah, we're going to be outright villains and you can't do anything about it. That's basically it. But they did that with... It was a Toys us or was it kb they did it with one of the toy franchises again a company that made money they went in they leveraged debt on it and then sucked out what they could and then let it fall apart raiden baby right raiden it yes raiden from mortal kombat yep yeah the one thing, though, I just wish, look, I want some franchisees to do a rogue. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:27 I'll support a rogue Subway. Yeah, what stops them? I would actually, that would be a great thing. If we said right now, if there is a Subway franchise that says, fuck you to the corporate whatever, corporate center, we'll support, we will rally around you. Because I'm like, just give me that same well i guess it'll be slightly different but at the same time i i want them to bring the u gouge back a lot of the sandwich artists don't know the u gouge like they used to yeah the u gouge is the one needs to take the top part off like it was right out like a u-shaped yeah he's taken off the top and do a
Starting point is 01:03:00 little bread canoe yeah it's almost like a bread bowl for a sandwich dsa you need to start a subway justice committee right let's talk about uh two two related stories uh boy scouts going bust and the fact that it's national chocolate mint uh they're not related to each other causally at all yeah but my my explanation for why the boy scouts went bust is they should have created boy scouts that's really dark concerning the reason why they're filing for bankruptcy it's But my explanation for why the Boy Scouts went bust is they should have created Boy Scout. That's really dark concerning the reason why they're filing for bankruptcy. It's because of all of the sexual abuse claims against them. So it's not cool for me to be like, they should have done this smarter.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Check your mentions. Let me know how cool that was. What did the Boy Scout Pope have to say? Well, this is funny because it's very similar to what the archdiocese, like certain archdioceses in the Catholic Church have done and also USA Gymnastics. So with the Boy Scouts, they're looking at hundreds of sexual abuse lawsuits at the moment. And they're filing right now. They said their liabilities range from $100 million to $500 million in assets of less than $50,000. It's ranged from $100 million to $500 million in assets of less than $50,000.
Starting point is 01:04:11 But the whole reason is they do this because it puts a halt to any kind of existing litigation. And then they have an opportunity to have a larger settlement for all the people that have sued in one final resolution. But again, this is very similar to the same thing that USA Gymnastics and certain dioceses have done. But yeah, it's wild to think that this thing has been around for 100 years, basically. Is it because the weights on your derby cars kind of looked like testicles? I don't remember that. You guys never made a Pinewood derby car? No, it's funny.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I don't remember weights. The little counterweights you would have to put in them looked like testicles. Oh, really? Weren't they like washers? They were like the original truck nuts? They were, yes. The original truck nuts. Pine nuts. And then I just remember kids in my class were doing it.
Starting point is 01:04:54 They always had graphite dust or some shit they were using. I'm like, what the fuck are you making? They were dusting for fingerprints. Oh, nothing. They were getting their cold case badge. Was that one of the merit badges you could get? Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Well, shout out to the Eagle Scouts. I have a few friends who did that. I'm not sure what you do with that now. Oh man. Oh, it's retroactively taken from them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:18 Um, well shit, Andy, it has been a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you,
Starting point is 01:05:24 uh, at Andy Beckerman on all your social media platforms um i have two podcasts one i just had the 10th anniversary of wow it's called beginnings and i have uh fairly serious almost freudian talks with artists i like about their childhoods and on on the 10th anniversary, it was Stephen Merritt from the Magnetic Fields. Holy shit. I've talked to a lot. I mean, Damon Lindelof, Abby and Alana have been on the show before a couple times.
Starting point is 01:05:53 Great folk duo. Abby and Alana. That's Broad City, Abby and Alana? Yeah. Also, they were a Simon and Garfunkel cover band. Right. Yeah. Talb Quelly.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Holy shit, man. In the 10-year history of the show. And also on this very network, Couples Therapy. This very network. This very network. The very network you're listening to. With my dear wife, Naomi. Wonderful stand-up who you have seen, listener.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Dear listener, you have seen everywhere from Comedy Central to Apple TV. Yeah, yeah. But we have, we do a live show, and we cut it up and put it where we have comics who are close to sets together about their relationship. And we bring it to you. Sometimes we have people in studio. This week it's Wendy McClendon-Covey from the Goldbergs.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah, yeah. And we answer your advice questions it's great awesome uh and is there a tweet you've been enjoying yes oh um this is i hope this doesn't disqualify her because she is my friend um but uh at howie keifer she's wonderful she is a great stand-up she uh writes for vulture not disqualifying at all. Okay, great. Well-dressed, great skin, seems rich, strong silent type. I'll say it. Who wouldn't fuck Brahms? The composer?
Starting point is 01:07:14 The doll from the horror movie. I don't know if that's how it's pronounced. Brahms? It's the doll. That's great. Yes. Wait, which movie? What is it called? I really don't know the answer to that I
Starting point is 01:07:28 just know that it's I know I knew enough of the reference to laugh out loud at that and I picked a tweet whatever tweet made me laugh out loud boom the boy the boy boy from the boy and the boy too okay but if you're question yeah it does look like Jerry From The Boy and The Boy 2. Oh, it kind of looks like Jared Kushner. Yeah, it does look like Jared Kushner.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Holy shit. Hey, ow. Ow. Okay, The Boy. And that is what Trump calls him. I couldn't think of what's his wife's name. Ivana? Ivanka.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Ivanka. Yeah, that's silly. That shouldn't be her name. Miles, where can people find you and follow you? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Also, my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra, talking about 90 Day Fiance, the wonderful garbage fire of a show
Starting point is 01:08:16 that will help you feel good about your relationship comparatively because that is always healthy. Some tweets I like. From Reductress. Wow, this woman cut out the toxic people in her life but still follows them on Instagram. And also this one just as a child of the 90s, coming of age then.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Also from Reductress. Whiteout celebrates 60 years of being nail polish of choice for girls in study hall. And also for anyone trying to customize their jam sport. Yeah. Tweet I've been enjoying. Rob Delaney tweeted my first job in Hollywood was doing the
Starting point is 01:08:53 big poop that Laura Dern reaches into in Jurassic Park. And then, I'm just going to play this part out loud. Your favorite Zo tweeted shout out to the black queen that told Jennifer Hudsonifer hudson to sing bitch during the kobe tribute sing it bitch it's like dead silence let him know jennifer hudson backed by a huge like portrait
Starting point is 01:09:22 of kobe just like very poignant so it's just like overcome, overcome with the moment. It was amazing. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.
Starting point is 01:09:45 We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song, We Ride Out on Miles. What is that going to be today? This is from the group Drug Dealer. Oh, yeah, they're great. Also, former guest on Beginnings. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Michael Collins? Yes. Oh, dope. Yeah, he's an L.A. guy, isn't he? Not originally. He's from the East Coast, dope. Yeah, he's an L.A. guy, isn't he? Not originally. He's from the East Coast, but I think he made his name out here mostly. He rode the rails. We talk about that on the show.
Starting point is 01:10:11 He spent a lot of time like a hobo riding the rails. Really? Yeah. That's where he's from? The rails? Used to be Run DMT, if you remember that group. Yeah. But yeah, this track's called Suddenly, and it's just got, how would you describe it?
Starting point is 01:10:25 It's like very, I feel like I'm in a fever dream where like maybe like some session tapes from Elton John got a bunch of acid poured on them or something. Is it a cover of that? Suddenly? No, that's Finally. Finally? Wow. Sorry, I got that song on the brain.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Yeah, so this one's Suddenly. Yeah, so check that one out. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning. We will be back this afternoon to tell you what is trending.
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