The Daily Zeitgeist - Biden vs Late Stage Capitalism, Black Mirror Bezos 06.03.22

Episode Date: June 3, 2022

In episode 1261, Jack and Miles are joined by actor, writer, and producer Behzad Dabu to discuss… wHy dOeSn’T aNyOnE LiKe BiDen?, Speaking of capitalist dystopias…Amazon workers su...rveilled CONSTANTLY and more! wHy dOeSn’T aNyOnE LiKe BiDen? Inside a Biden White House adrift Speaking of capitalist dystopias…Amazon workers surveilled CONSTANTLY LISTEN: Let Me In Your Life by Asha PuthliSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:01:25 podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 239 episode 4 of their daily zeitgeist it's a production of iheart radio and this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is friday june 3rd 2022 which of course means it is national donut day oh i love the donut oh Oh, man. The best. Oh, Carl Tart in the most recent episode of Mad Boosties reveals his biggest Achilles heel as an athlete.
Starting point is 00:02:32 What's your favorite donut? You got a favorite donut? Aside from the Dunkin' sour cream that you put me onto in that fateful East Coast trip. I mean, the Dunkin' sour cream is not the main sour cream. It would be Bill's Donuts or Bob's Donuts. I forget. Like, we have a very similar one out here that's Bill's or Bob's in L.A.,
Starting point is 00:02:51 but I think it's Bob's Donuts in Centerville, Ohio, has the OG really, really dope sour cream donut. That's basically just a cake donut with real, deeply embedded ingrained frosting. Oh, I like that. It goes all the way through. I like sweetness. A donut cannot be too sweet for me.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Oh, that's the challenge? There can never be too much garlic in a dish for me? It's impossible for you to encounter a donut too sweet for your palate? I want them get physics involved try to cram as much sugar as possible onto and into the donut and then you know put push the laws of physics to fully saturate it even more with sweetness that's just that's just yeah you want the scientists who are working on like climate change and cancer vaccines to be like no no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Try and make me a donut that will turn my mouth inside out with sweetness. Yeah. When people say something is too sweet, I just. You say give it here. I don't have that part of my brain. Yeah. Give it here. Like the, the Krispy Kreme.
Starting point is 00:03:59 My favorite Krispy Kreme is the frosted and then glazed or the glazed and then frosted. Oh, with chocolate? Like just double up. Wow. Double me up. Okay. Daddy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Double daddy. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. And this is a series of dictator Mountain Dew flavors. The D-Zite gang surface from the Discord, a.k.a. Benito Dusolini, a.k.a. Robert Dugabe. surface from the discord aka benito dusolini aka robert dugabi those are from scouting magoo aka papa mountain duvalier and then i think the real pinnacle baja al blastad wow and that's from bottles and fans look at that so shout out to you this is i I do think that we're headed in that direction where everything gets a Mountain Dew flavor, you know?
Starting point is 00:04:50 And why not? Some of the most impactful monsters from history. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yes, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. I've been kissed by a rose in Portland. I've been kissed by a rose in Portland. OK, shout out to me. Shout out to the homie on the street of Portland who pulled up to me and I saw his brother in the street. He said, Miles, what's up? And I I'm sorry that I said, do I know you? And you're like, I'm like gang. Miles, what's up? And I'm sorry that I said, do I know you? And you're like, I'm Zeitgang.
Starting point is 00:05:30 And I was like, thank God I love this town. I'm in Portland for a little bit. Shout out to everybody who's been giving me little recommendations. Everybody has told me to go to the restaurant EAM, which I will be going to, which sounds delicious. But in general, shout out to the Pacific Northwest. I realize being a desert child child how refreshing it is to look at a whole bunch of trees and you've been kissed by some roses while you were there because it went to the rose city yeah i went to that rose garden you know i tried to go to the japanese garden but it was closed so i couldn't make it before the recording but you know that's that's on my list well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented actor, producer, and activist. He originated the role of Abe in the Pulitzer Prize winning and Tony nominated play, Disgraced.
Starting point is 00:06:11 That's where I know him from because I'm cultured. But, of course, we also know him as Simon Drake on How to Get Away with Murder. I'm here on the shot from TV shows like The Good Place, Chicago PD. Ever heard of him? He's also a founding member of the Chicago Inclusion Project, which seeks to provide resources for underrepresented people in the arts. It's Beza Dabu! Beza!
Starting point is 00:06:33 Hi! I'm so happy to be back again. I love doing this podcast. Oh, man. We love having you. Good seeing you, man. Good seeing you, too. Where are you right now?
Starting point is 00:06:43 I'm in Los Angeles, but I want to chime in on the thing that I wish NASA scientists would create more of and I could never have too much of. And for me, that is cilantro flavoring. Oh my God. I love when something has cilantro in it. I had a chicken curry the other day with cilantro in it and I was like, more cilantro. They're like, you just ate a mouthful of cilantro, sir. More cilantro-y. You want the molecular gastronomy where they take 7,000 pounds of cilantro and then put it into one tic-tac-shaped thing and you're like, your mouth may not recover from this. And you're like, please.
Starting point is 00:07:24 like tic-tac shaped thing and you're like yes your mouth may not recover from this and you're like please there's a dish uh i'm not sponsored by this restaurant but there's a restaurant called chin chin it's like chinese food they have one in beverly hills they have one in studio city yeah it's like a chain from the 80s but yeah so so they got this restaurant so you know the other day i was like just hungry i ordered something and they have this thing called anthony's special noodles attention and i was like well what's special about Anthony and like why is noodle special but it really just they have they put a cilantro dressing on it I was like let me get that these noodles were delicious oh man so and it had adequate salon I mean what's what do you what's how are their levels to it I mean like most of the time we see it as a garnet a garnish I go if you go to like a taqueria like
Starting point is 00:08:04 it's going to be with onions chopped up like how do you want like in your mind in the ideal world are you just seeing handfuls of cilantro on top of stuff that doesn't that doesn't deter me uh like when you get when you get like a taco off a food truck and there's like almost like a whole like vine of cilantro oh yeah i love that i love got the good flavor oh you don't mind the stem you you no i don't mind oh i don't mind the stem at all i don't mind the stem but and the stem kind of gives you a little crunch yeah but the cilantro noodles it was like more than just a garnish like there was cilantro like right flavor in the noodles and i like that because you don't really get that flavor with like asian dishes always so that was that was pretty great anyway that was just listening to you talk about cilantro has convinced me that I have the soap thing.
Starting point is 00:08:46 You know, you know, like some people taste cilantro and they're like, it tastes like like soap water. Like I was going to say, oh, have you tried the Mountain Dew flavor soap water that's cilantro based? But I didn't say that because I think there's just like when you look up like cilantro flavor first article why does cilantro taste like soap and they they treat it like it's a like it's a preference for those who appreciate it cilantro tastes like but I don't think it's appreciation because like when I've never had cilantro and tested it tasted something that is citrusy which is what I'm seeing people describe it as it does not at all taste like soap to me. But what does taste like toothpaste to me is root beer.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And I think that's a thing too. Like root beer to me is just toothpaste. It tastes like Crest. Whoa. I think you might be right. I think that might just be preference. And you putting that in people's heads might have just infected them and ruined root beer. Because I'm thinking about the taste of root beer and I'm like, damn, that is the problem with root beer.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I love root beer. I do too. But like, think about it. I never even thought about that shit. It does have like a minty crest flavor to it. Well, they said if it depends, but likely the shared ingredient is wintergreen which is like some like an extract wintergreen in my ear of root yeah it's just interesting what our brains like attached because for me like i take a sip root beer and i'm like that's what i brush my teeth
Starting point is 00:10:17 like that's what i brush my teeth with yeah but that yeah it gets it gets you all fucked up but you start brushing your teeth with root beer because you're so confused. Your dentist is like, you have so many cavities, Bazar. What are you doing? Like, I'll brush with root beer. When it's a similar frothy foam that comes about when you're really getting down on some toothbrushing and also just what naturally happens on the top of root beer. I have gone from ever appreciating root beer to ginger beer. I like a ginger beer.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Oh, yeah. I like a ginger beer, too. Now that I don't drink, I like ginger beer as my, I like the bite. And you can't make it spicy enough. You can't. You can't do it. Oh, okay. You can't.
Starting point is 00:10:55 That's true. Give it to me. Tell me the spiciest ginger beer. I mean, I feel like in order of, like, spice factor, I feel like Reed's is pretty good. Yeah. In order of spice factor, I feel like Reed's is pretty good. I think Reed's is the one that has the version that is pretty commonly available that says spicy on it. And that's the one that I fuck with the most. Right. Cock and Bull also has bite to it, too.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Oh, no. Reed's is not the one. Reed's Extra, that's the one that I have. It introduced me to ginger beer and has since. Okay, so where do you want ginger beer, OG? What have you moved on to? I got to find it.
Starting point is 00:11:32 You got to let me do some research here. You're like, what I do is I take a whole ginger, I soak it in a two liter of Sprite for seven days. Jack says that there couldn't be, he wants NASA scientists to inject all the ginger. Now I have had like concentrated ginger juice He says that there couldn't be, he wants NASA scientists to inject all the ginger. Now, I have had like concentrated ginger juice or like whatever you get at a smoothie bar. And that is painful and mean that they even serve that.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Because they know people are coming in being like, oh, I've enjoyed ginger on sushi. I've enjoyed ginger beer. And that just tastes like concentrated pain. So maybe I just haven't had the right ginger beer that like, like puts me in my place. I think the thing I'm thinking of is main root ginger beer, which has the, that's available at like, you know, Ralph's and Whole Foods and has a spicy varietal, you might say. Ah favorite word today's bonus word yes yes all right basil we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today we got another article that is scratching his head
Starting point is 00:12:37 and wondering why can't joe biden catch a break so we we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about what Amazon has set up at their warehouses. It's wild. This isn't something they admitted. It's black mirror. It's straight up black mirror. Yeah, it is straight up black mirror. Ooh, I can't wait for this. I'm very curious about this.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I can't wait to put my application in. I can't wait for this. I'm very curious about this. I can't wait to put my application in. Unfortunately, you saying you can't wait for this is actually taking me off task of trying to intro these stories for later. And that is time off task. And that will actually get me fired, Beza. Yeah, Jack, I have to talk to you.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Please no longer interrupt. Thank you. You are a top offender for your TOT score, your time off task score. A top offender time off task over here. We'll have a chat later. We'll have a chat.. We'll have a chat. We'll get to all that shit. But first, Beza, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:13:34 My latest search history was from this morning. I woke up and searched, how many snakes are there in the world? Because, because I think actually many. Spe species or like alive at a given time, but this is actually why I'm, I'm having trouble with it because when you Google it, they just keep all the answers tell you how many species, but I want to know how many individual snakes are there in the world?
Starting point is 00:13:57 Because I want to know, are there more snakes than humans? Yeah, this is that just reminded me that i had just i had promised to google how many fish are in the world for my kid and i never did it but that was the that was the impetus of that question is like wait there's more fish than people that's kind of scary and the reason why i wanted to google it is because i'm terrified of snakes and i don't know why i woke up but i woke up with this like feeling that like there are more of them than us so that's the little insult uh insight into my neuroses i mean yeah it is really hard even if you search like snake population you know like snake species snake snakes global population they say brazil
Starting point is 00:14:48 has the most species if anyone's wondering about fish it's 3.5 trillion they have us outnumbered by a lot if they ever used to learn guns the thing that scares me is like i go i don't know years at a time without seeing a snake so like if there are more of them than us, then like, are they all in one fucking place? That's terrifying. I don't want to go near there. Right. So you're afraid that you're going to pull up to like inadvertently like stumble upon like snake freak Nick and you're going to be like, what? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I thought it was sparsely populated. And you know, like my brother lived in Australia. My grandparents live in India. Like these are places where there are snakes. So like when I am on those 23 hour flights to visit my family, believe me, like 12 of those hours are like, am I gonna see a snake? What am I gonna do if I see a snake?
Starting point is 00:15:41 If I see a snake, like how do I run from it? Do I, you know what I run from it do i you know what i mean right so you know how like people give those uh statistics where they're like yeah you know you're way more likely to die from being crushed by a cow than you are to die from being like eaten by a shark like shark attacks are rare to the point of being statistically an impossibility almost. So I was looking for that same statistic on snakes. And what I found instead was that globally up to 138,000 people die due to snake bites every year with nearly 2.7 million people suffering serious injuries. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:16:27 That's a lot of people. You're terrifying me. Like I'm terrified. Me too, man. You are correct. Your, your, your snake phobia is correct. Snakes are terrifying. There's something like both spiders and snakes are like, I, I, I know I came into this world with afraid of those two things like i did not have
Starting point is 00:16:47 to learn that shit like i'm like a snake agnostic or like it's not yeah i mean i would i'm ambivalent with snakes i would say spiders i fuck with spiders like you like spiders oh yeah yeah i like spiders all right so like so like you're you walk in your house you see a cool look you see a spider like in the corner. Do you kill it? You just chill with it? I have like a whole thing, like analysis I go through of does this spider deserve to live or die? If it's tiny doing its thing, I'm like, you're not going to bite me.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You're not one of those spiders I got to worry about. So I'm like, do your thing, man. Just chill. If they're big and they look like nasty. Sometimes I look on the phone just to kind of identify it, make sure I'm not, you know, taking a needless spider life. And if it is something that bites, I smush the shit out of it and I leave it there as an example for the other motherfuckers. Oh, no, this is your homie. You do not want to fucking be here.
Starting point is 00:17:43 But if you're a chill spider, I got your back. I might even throw you an occasional fly you put a little little torches next to the one that you smashed just so they bring oh yeah to it yeah oh yeah i use a microscope and i do all kinds of very interesting art with the corpse so yeah like i i think i have a penchant for being able to spot snakes. I've been on a hike with people before in rattlesnake country. And I was just spotting them. They camouflage pretty good. And people were like, how did you see that? You have an evolutionary trait that would keep you alive. Whereas me, the times i've been on like a
Starting point is 00:18:25 nature walk or with with somebody who was nature saying like oh yo check out that snake over there i'm like bro i i was just over there and i didn't even realize that shit yeah so okay i mean there's there's advantages to this gen i maybe maybe i'm just you won't get caught for the rest of my life yeah just don't don't go to the subreddit. What could go wrong? Uh, and look at any of the snake content. Cause it's always bad. Oh man. What,
Starting point is 00:18:50 uh, what is something you think is overrated? Beza. Overrated. You ready? Yeah. Uh, celebrities.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And I don't mean, and I don't mean celebrities like, Oh, I'm a fan of someone. They inspire me. I know their story. Their journey is inspiring. I love that. If someone they inspire me i know their story their journey is inspiring i love that if someone says like oh you know um i'm a fan of denzel washington because i followed his
Starting point is 00:19:11 whole career or something like that that's awesome when i mean celebrities i mean what's happening is like you know last week i read that gwyneth paltrow kim kardashian and snoop dog all endorsed Rick Caruso. And I'm seeing like that is an overrated. Why does that matter? Like, why does why does if Snoop Dogg endorsed a new young rapper, I would like to listen to that. If Kim Kardashian is endorsing a reality show or a skincare brand. Cool. But like when they're endorsing politicians, I'm like, why do we care? That's an overrated thing that matters. The Amber Heard Johnny Depp trial is overrated for us to care about. It's all like, to me, the sort of influence that celebrities have on things that are outside of the thing that made them celebrities is overrated. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think we live in a world where we
Starting point is 00:20:03 just say, well, if this person is successful they must have their shit together and therefore if they like this guy who's you know his whole career is about like displacing people in the you in the city of LA to make malls and shit yeah he must they must have something right I mean with the Amber Heard Johnny Depp thing I think that's dangerous because it's the that verdict has basically it's given a lot of people on the right, this idea that they're like, you see the me too movement was completely blown out of proportion. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:30 And it's like, that's not what this is about. And also, but that's why it's so fucked up because we're look, people are looking at that shit so uncritically and they're like, well, I don't wonder what happened there when it's like, this is a,
Starting point is 00:20:41 this has created a very, a much more hostile environment for anyone who's been through any kind of domestic violence, because this is sort of the precedent that we're beginning to see is like, oh, yeah, don't even don't even name the person who may have abused you. And then all of this shit can go down. It harkens me back to a Chappelle skit when I was in college where Ja Rule had a political opinion. Chappelle skit when I was in college where Ja Rule had a political opinion and Chappelle was like, I don't give a fuck what Ja Rule thinks about like my vote. Like just wrap. Seriously. You know? Right. And, and I don't want to, it's dangerous because I don't want to make it sound like I'm doing like the shut up and dribble thing. Right. I'm not saying like LeBron James can't have an opinion. He should shut up and dribble. That's about human lebron's a human it makes sense but like the celebrity endorsements matter a lot and it's a it's a fine line because i'm not an advocate of
Starting point is 00:21:31 the shut up and dribble stance right but i i don't know why i have that line but i do i just wish he hadn't chosen ja rule because ja rule is where i get most of my political opinions from and all my ideas on, you know, what like parties to go to and stuff like that. And I feel like he doesn't miss a lot. You missed out on the whole G unit era because you were so mad about that. Yeah. You're like, 50 Cent doesn't respect
Starting point is 00:21:58 Ja Rule. I got to go to a pretty cool party with some pretty great cheese sandwiches. So who's laughing now, assholes? Yeah, for people who aren't in Los Angeles, Rick Caruso is, you know, a pro-police, anti-choice Republican who is running as a Democrat for mayor of Los Angeles. And he's also a billionaire who made his money building malls and displacing people. I have a feeling, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:29 there's that there's all for all the people listening at home, too. This is the primary. And if he gets 50.1% of the primary vote, there will be no election. He will automatically win. Yeah. And that is maybe looking likely
Starting point is 00:22:42 or not likely, but possible. Yeah. Well, he, he is like outspent his, his opponents. Like I, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:51 I, I could wallpaper one of the rooms in my house with all of the mailers and shit that have like come into my, you know, mailbox for, for the Rick Caruso campaign and just like shitting on anybody who happens to be running against him it's like he bought my neighborhood when i walk in the morning like i have a little daily walk no he may have actually bought your neighborhood it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:23:15 there are signs for this man on every lawn and i'm like really like how has he tricked you all all right let's take a quick break we'll back. We'll talk about something that's underrated. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Hey, I'm Gianna Prudente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when i'm feeling overwhelmed or can i negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job girl yes each week we answer your unfiltered work questions think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice and if we don't know the answer we bring in experts who do like resume
Starting point is 00:25:03 specialist morgan sanner the only difference between the person who doesn't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:26:09 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:27:23 Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Beza, we also like to ask our guests, what is something you think is underrated? Okay. I'm very excited for this. I don't even know the word for this,
Starting point is 00:27:50 but I'm going to use the word like kitchen accoutrements. Okay. So I have lived alone for 15 years, you know, majority of that time single. And for me, I had like, you know, I have plates. I for me i had like you know i have plates i have smaller plates i have bowls i have slightly larger bowls for like cereal and then i have like spoons forks and knives and that's it oh and then like glasses like eight ounce glasses for water like that's it recently my girlfriend moved in with me okay okay and brought with her every style of bowl spoon cup
Starting point is 00:28:31 uh serving plate this plate a plate for this a spoon for that a little knife for this and when we were unpacking i said what could you possibly need this tiny dish where she's like oh that's like what you would put like condiments in. Yeah. And I'm like, OK, well, then this bowl is like what you would put like nuts in. OK, well, this thing is like what you would put like this is like a serving bowl for like a salad. Well, this is a serving bowl for like a soup. Well, this is a serving bowl. I'm telling you, there is a there is a thing for everything. And I was I was bashing it and I was making fun of her.
Starting point is 00:29:07 But over the last couple of months, can I tell you, like, it is amazing. Like, she has a small electric whisk to whisk a cappuccino with. Oh, yeah, a little frother? Yeah, a little frother. You sound like you've been living in a van or some shit. She got this cup with a blade at the bottom. You put ice in it, hit a button and it crushed. I'm telling you, I live, I've just lived with like plates, bowls, forks, not like, like she's got, there's like little spoons that are good for this.
Starting point is 00:29:38 These got like, I mean, I'm telling you, it's amazing. So that is underrated like if anyone out there is living the way i was living go out and get yourself one of these things they call a girlfriend who can bring you some kitchen accoutrements along to the house are you do you cook a lot i mean i thought i did until she moved in i i have like yeah i have like turkey and spinach in a frying pan yeah i had like a crockpot i was a crockpot chef i'm a crockpot chef okay yeah there you go i can make some spinach in a frying pan yeah i had like a crock pot i was a crock pot chef i'm a crock pot chef okay yeah there you go i can make some meals in a crock pot and i'm really good at the fish i can do the fish because i watch master class fish spatula fish spatula i do actually see okay that's
Starting point is 00:30:17 interesting so you have these like very narrow moments you're like why because as a guy was like i got forks knives plates bowls cups that's it and they're like, well, because as a guy who's like, I got forks, knives, plates, bowls, cups, that's it. And then you're like, but I got a fish spatula. That's because I learned to cook by watching Masterclass, like all those chefs on Masterclass and like Gordon Ramsay was like, you must have this. Wow. Okay, so Chef Ramsay
Starting point is 00:30:38 puts you on to the fish spatula. So anyway, but no, I mean, I thought I could cook, but now I know I cannot cook i'm i'm the inferior cook in the household by a magnitude of 10 i have like the the inability to match but like keep a matching set of bowls together we just have so much mismatched shit and like and i go to other people's kitchens and they have like one set of like cooking you know utensils and then like a set of bowls that all match each other and i'm like did you did you guys just like win this on the prices right like a kitchen set how how does how does one live like this and have everything in its place and no
Starting point is 00:31:28 extra things from like you know 12 years ago that you haven't used since then but still like kind of stick around i think you know i mean you got kids have your kids broken stuff you probably have to shift what you eat off of when you have smaller kids. I feel like me as a newlywed, my shit's looking like what you're talking about. Where I'm like, my bowls match now. My plates match now. Because what's that? Zola.com told me how many plates I'm supposed to ask for for being married.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Because I don't know what the fuck you're supposed to do. But yeah, I definitely enjoy the consistency. But i'm also seeing like i break shit too and you know six cups become five become four and then you augment that with two that don't match and then total chaos it's it's a it's a madness it's total chaos it's total chaos down there babe babe. Come on. This is total chaos. Hold on. This is Crate and Barrel. And this one's CB2. These don't match.
Starting point is 00:32:33 All right. Let's talk about why doesn't anyone like Biden? It's a whole genre of think piece. Yeah. Yeah. I think all of these pieces ask the same thing over and over. What can Joe possibly do to get people to like him? Have BTS visit the White House?
Starting point is 00:32:57 What needs to happen? Harry Styles? We can get him. Will that help? Tell us. And so this article in the New York Post, referencing these two articles that have come out from The Washington Post and NBC that are like kind of talking about the tension that exists in the White House where Joe Biden is like really confused, pissed and like no one knows what to do. This one is from the NBC article. It says, quote, Biden is rattled by his sinking approval ratings and is looking to regain voters confidence that he he can provide the sure-handed leadership he promised during the campaign, people close to the president say, rattled he is. He's absolutely rattled. This other one, this is from the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:33:40 The White House launched a new push Tuesday to contain the political damage caused by inflation after President Biden complained for weeks to to aids that his administration was not doing enough to publicly explain the fastest price increases in roughly four decades it's not what is that can't be me what's their explanation well it's it's a bit it's a bit of a double-edged sword because on one side you can say well there's inflation there's also a lot of wacky price hikes going on from companies who have not, who've just, their lesson from the pandemic has been like, yeah, man, people going to pay through the teeth for fucking anything. So let's just keep turning the heat up. The other part is that $1.9 trillion stimulus, they love pointing at that one.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And that's when Janet Yellen was like, I was wrong. I should have said that that was going to fuck everything up. Yeah. Every mainstream media outlet, it feels like they've all kind of come together on that one, even though we have evidence that a lot of it is caused by just corporations being like,
Starting point is 00:34:39 what if we had record profits though, instead of just like a lot of profits? What if we had like the best profits ever uh during a pandemic when people said oh is there less gas in the ground no no no we got plenty of gas just that you know there's there's a war and shit and i can use all these explanations to just get these shits to eight dollars a gallon i forget who it was uh one of those you know one of those far right uh senator people i think it was Madison Cawthorn or something like that, had posted on Twitter that they had posted a sign of a gas station in France. And it was like, see how cheap gas is.
Starting point is 00:35:18 And first there was the euro dollar equation they didn't make, but also that gas there is by the liter. Yeah, that's a few people and so yeah when someone did the math they were like actually equivalent would be like seven dollars and 50 cents and so it was like it was like their way of you know shitting on biden's gas prices but it was like no it's a global thing my my friends it's cool don't look at exxon mobile or shell don't don't ask them what's happening it's it's easier for the right wing to be like it's joe biden rather than our donors it's fucking easy like they pay you to say that shit and this whole article goes on like what's
Starting point is 00:35:55 the secret to turning this around like they go on to talk about is it the inflation is it the covid is it over promising and underselling you know and when they say underselling, underselling his own accomplishments. And it constantly references like how even if Biden is like, you know, confirming judges at a record pace and unemployment numbers are low. And the author of the piece realizes, too, it makes no difference to most voters because it's all about what they're feeling, what they're experiencing living in the United States. And right now it feels like utter chaos and nothing is being done about anything and everything costs too much. Yeah. More than something like, well, I mean, even Mitch McConnell helped confirm some judge, like nobody gives a shit. Like people really don't give a shit about that. So let that go. I think what would have been better if this article
Starting point is 00:36:41 just kind of says, yeah, Joe Biden can't get out of this hole because he is what we call a president during late stage capitalism. You know, like it's since the 21st century, like every president has been basically underwater, except for a few specific moments, whether that's like, you know, Bush being like Iraq war is good or Obama's first few months in office. Other than that, most presidents are not, you know, they don't poll well. And I think because for decades, inequality has been growing, but there's been sort of this silent issue until like maybe the last 10 years. And like our ethos as a people in America is to just never admit we're hurting, that we've just the problem gets worse and worse and worse. It's just unbearable now. And Biden finds himself at a point where nothing he says will actually change anything because we are beyond the point of like empty gestures and like platitudes soothing people's like, you know, fears around the future. Like people need action.
Starting point is 00:37:36 That's really the only thing. That's all he needs to do. And the only like, you know, policies where people are given money and people are given direct help, like the, you know, the U.S. immune system, as I've called it, like the the way the U.S. protects itself is so allergic to anything like that. that like now there is a confirmed national narrative that giving people money during a national a global pandemic is is like causing all of our problems is just yeah like that's what he needs to do more shit like that but there's no way he's going to get that message because the media is just so trained and so like down to a cellular level up at like the level of the superego of like this entire like you know political civilizational body like it is all about preserving like hyper capitalism and yeah hyper capitalism protecting itself this well this article even mentions right like a big thing when there
Starting point is 00:38:46 was like we had a guest a while back who was like oh well what could joe biden have done differently one of the things to talk about is the child tax credit how massively important that was for people and in this article the way they talk about it completely undercuts like how a human being would experience this like they're saying you know they said for all its inflationary impact the initial 1.9 trillion dollars the stimulus has given kept the unemployment rate well under four percent and it's now expired provision expanding the child care tax credit cut the monthly child poverty rate by 30 percent yeah now expired provision so you can probably say that the child poverty rate has increased. It's just gone. It just swung right back to being, you know, gone up 30%.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Right. But that's, it's just easy to be like now expired. That's really fucked up. That's a lot of people talking about how that child tax credit came, couldn't have come at a better time for them when they're trying to put food on the table and, you know, wrestle with like terrible wages or unemployment and things like that. So yeah, there's just a lot of this bizarre kind of like, I mean, I guess it could have been that, but we're just really, it's like so much of the stuff we complain about with like the modern reporting of like what america is right now is like we're just locked in this shitty cycle of looking at solutions but letting the ideas die over and over and over again you know it's like police violence oh well activists come out other people who are working in the streets with
Starting point is 00:40:21 community saying actually we need more community support We need less like armed thugs. And then the first question is, we're going to all perish without the police. It's not even experimenting with that. It's just saying, if we don't keep the status quo, we're all fucked. Yet we're seeing in real time how fucked up the status quo is.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, and yeah, we, there's this weird thing that's happening is that we're blaming people getting a child tax credit, which is people under a certain income threshold getting like $1,200 or something. When I, we recently read, we know now that more billionaires were created during the pandemic than any, any point in history. Every 30 hours,
Starting point is 00:41:04 a billionaire in America was created every 30 hours during the pandemic. any any point in history every 30 hours a billionaire in america was created every 30 hours during the pandemic i mean that's that's insane so we need to be focused on the on the on the on different things we're always focused on down below and never focused on like up above right and it's really interesting my my dad is an architect and he always said he's like i spend so much time building beautiful ceilings and no one ever looks up when they enter my buildings. And that's like a metaphor for life right now. We need to look up. We're so focused on.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Yeah. Yeah. I think the police, like, we should understand the wave of crime stories that were all about shoplifting and how shoplifting is out of control that, like, weren't true, were not actually a problem other than, like, you know, the standard problem caused by inequality and poverty. But that is the American, the U.S. immune system responding to the push for like more progressive police policies and all of the inflation stories and the stories about, you know, how inflation is out of control and the explanation that has just been very, very clearly like settled on by the mainstream media. just been very clearly settled on by the mainstream media. That's the immune system responding to the money that the government gave people. A couple of weeks ago, we were driving home. We were passing a pretty busy intersection in the valley. And there were, I don't know, 12 or 13 cop cars, a checkpoint created, including a big paddy wagon. And there was the whole thing set up. and when we finally the traffic was stalled for a while, when we
Starting point is 00:42:47 finally got to the front, the cop was like, we're just checking registrations on vehicles. And I was like, there are like 36 of you here at this intersection, in multiple cars, stopping traffic to just get people, just to get you on a
Starting point is 00:43:03 expired registration on your vehicle. It was a checkpoint. It was a checkpoint. And I was just like, yo. Is that even legal? That's the auto equivalent of stop and frisk, though, right?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Yeah. Just trying to shake some change out of people's pockets, basically. That's exactly what it is. It's not public safety. And then this idea that like, oh, well, they keep us safe. us safe it's like well there's 36 people here making i don't know how much a day some someone do the math on how much taxpayer salary that was happening during that time period to just like is it even worth the money they're gonna get out of people it's just
Starting point is 00:43:40 it's it's brutal no because what the whole the way this whole system operates it's like that m night shamalan movie the village where in amer, we all live in the village and we're trusting these motherfuckers to be like, oh, no. Oh, no, no, no. Outside the village is so fucking spooky. You don't want to learn anything about except what we got here because this shit, the truth. And a lot of people are like, man, I don't know. I'm pretty sure I saw a fucking plane fly above. You're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you didn't.
Starting point is 00:44:09 That's bullshit. Because we have to keep reinforcing this idea that the status quo is the be all end all. And if we deviate from that, it will only end with our demise. Right. So if the police start feeling like, well, people are starting to think we're not really good at what we do. OK, we need to seed more stories that create the illusion of this like massive crime wave. So our existence is justified. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:32 Like, let's we need that. So now the sentiment is, oh, God, thank God there's the police not preventing all these things that I'm seeing over and over again. Or like even with capitalism, right? People people right now are experiencing, you know, the worst parts of American capitalism, you know, fully. And people might wring their hands at the mere mention of socialism, but we are actually living in the worst test case for capitalism right now. You can't blame socialism for jobs leaving the U.S. You can't blame socialism for the levels of child poverty that we're experiencing. You can't blame socialism for the lack of protection for workers and consumers. That's squarely on the doorstep of capitalism. So how are you going to tell me what happens outside of that if all I'm seeing is you proving every fucking time that this shit is not working? is you proving every fucking time that this shit is not working right you know and i think that's and that's this like threshold that we're we're like waiting to cross is to be able to to like
Starting point is 00:45:30 sort of shake off this like weird you know blind allegiance to like the business class of this country and start realizing we got to do what's right for people like look at what happens when you keep entrusting our policies and the direction of this country with the wealthy all of that means every single policy is going to be aimed at protecting their own interests and that's all we see so that's why joe biden it's hard for you to get popular because the popular kids aren't fucking with capitalism right now whether they know it or not right and that's and i think that's the and i think this is this whole dysfunction that our politicians and you know like media
Starting point is 00:46:11 class just can't begin to voice and just finding every other way to say like maybe it was like the afghanistan thing yeah yeah that's the other that's the other one that they've like uniformly come together and been like he bungled the afghanistan withdrawal and inflation's out of control it's not like well like we're about to lose the right our like bodily autonomy around abortion they still can't pass gun laws he's still like dancing back and forth on forgiving student debt and that like those never get mentioned those never get mentioned by the mainstream i think yeah i think the biggest thing i as i because i've been thinking about this a lot because i've we've i think so many of us have just felt so fucking powerless every fucking day as the news gets worse but it's that like in general we're not we need to normalize demanding better yeah for ourselves from like our our fucking our system of governance
Starting point is 00:47:14 that it's not like it's the democrats or poets we need to actually start saying this is what we all deserve right and if you're not if you're not able to deliver on that that's the only litmus test or you know rubric that we need to judge people on right now is that we need to be we need more people to understand that we need to deliver more tangible results for working people for poor people that's just it and getting so you know i mean whatever this is and i think this is the ultimate this is the constant back and forth in this country is like we're so caught up in this like binary of left and right republican democrat politics while like the majority of people are absolutely bearing the brunt of all of it and not realizing like you know we've got our we've got our sights set on the
Starting point is 00:48:05 wrong things like bezod saying like we need to be looking up yeah and being like oh y'all got it there's that quote or as a cartoon or something where you have like you know the sort of evil billionaire class elite above down making the middle class be afraid of the lower class like they've all convinced the middle class like well you need to be be afraid of the lower class. Like they've, they've all convinced the middle class, like, well, you need to be really afraid of this lower class or these immigrants or these people over here or this minority or that disenfranchised group
Starting point is 00:48:32 instead of to keep them looking down to, to, to keep everybody distracted from looking up. So, yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:53:35 I got to pee in a bottle or like I can barely go to the bathroom. We've heard about how like they're really on top of like people's productivity. So we're finding out that they're using a lot of the people that work in these warehouse have like these radio frequency scanners that report or record their T O T or their time off task. And the thing is even 30 minutes of not making Jeff Bezos is space mortgage payment can get you fucking terminated at an Amazon warehouse. So crazy. Can you just say this is like, can get you fucking terminated at an Amazon warehouse. Crazy. So you're saying they have
Starting point is 00:54:07 a thing on them that, like, a tracking device on them. Because if you're processing stuff, you might be scanning it, and please correct me if I'm wrong for people who actually work in an Amazon warehouse, but my idea is that they interact with this piece of hardware that is able to sort of monitor all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Like, it's a smart device that's doing all kinds of shit. And because of that, it's kicking up this information of when they're not quote unquote working. So the way this works is this is from this vice article, quote, workers can receive a written warning for accumulating 30 minutes of time off task in a day, one time in a rolling one year period. They can be fired if they accumulate 120 minutes of off time task or time off task in a single one-year period. They can be fired if they accumulate 120 minutes of off-time task or time off task in a single day or if they have accumulated 30 minutes of time off task on three separate days in a one-year period.
Starting point is 00:54:54 So three separate times that you take a 30-minute break in an entire year is grounds for fire. And it's not a 30-minute break. It's a cumulative 30 minutes in a day. You could take like six five minute breaks and that's 30 minutes. You could text your sick parent 15
Starting point is 00:55:13 times for two minutes. And that's that. I'm really interested in the people that don't work, the people that work at Amazon but not in the warehouse. The people that work in the offices in front of the computers that work Amazon, how many times are they scrolling Facebook or reading,
Starting point is 00:55:33 you know, articles about Johnny Depp and never heard. And that's how many, how many class works, how much TOT are they doing? Yeah. I have heard that, that that level is also a fucking waking nightmare.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And you get dinged if you don't respond to an email from a higher up within like five minutes at any time of the day. Yeah. So like when you look at sort of like these the way they document the time off task, it looks like some cia black site interrogation record or something it's like date gap time from 1822 to 1837 aa went to floor one and was sent to floor two uh like raw time off task 15 minutes 2030 to 2040 aa was in the bathroom then they adjusted it minus 10 because they said okay okay that's that's fair you're in the bathroom we're they adjusted it minus 10 because they said, okay, okay, that's fair. You're in the bathroom. We're not total monsters here. Then they said 2304 to 2315, AA does not remember. The AA being like the shorthand for this employee, like does not remember. So the way this works is
Starting point is 00:56:40 when they're monitoring all this time, they begin to then, you know, look at who the person sort through the data to find the person who they have to find. The term for this is a top offender. That's the quote. That's like the language they use at Amazon because it is a penal colony. And they are basically support like a manager supposed to give the top offender a talking to. And I'll just read the process from this Vice article about how this whole thing goes. Quote, after identifying the top offender for every shift, the manager is then required to have a conversation with the worker to let them explain, quote, if there are any true barriers that would warrant the deduction of time from the total time off task tracked by the scanner.
Starting point is 00:57:19 The manager makes any adjustments to the total time off task and provides feedback in disciplinary write-ups when appropriate. This is where it gets fucking even weirder. If the top offender during a shift is found to have justified time off task, the manager is then required to coach the worker with the second highest amount of time off task. A tool allows managers to sort through the top offenders on any shift. The documents also indicate that Amazon uses surveillance footage to corroborate employees' claims about their whereabouts and describes an instance in which a worker's alibi was later disproven using video footage so it's everything it's surveillance capitalism you got it all in one go and you're in one place one of the one of the times off task summaries from 1113 to 1123, the employee was talking to another
Starting point is 00:58:09 employee with no barriers identified. And that is 10 minutes off task. And there's no excuse for that. That is being a human being. That is what is there you you are not allowed to talk to your fellow employee and vent to them about how fucking you are currently existing in a black mirror episode that that is the reality that you are both in you you're not allowed to do that and like how do they expect people to they don't have mental health problems but i'm saying they like that's what's so clear about these documents like you we talk about all the time these are these people are in a spreadsheet they're not fucking people they're like this drone was pooping for too long and we gotta we gotta yell at them because it's not functioning correctly for our like you know
Starting point is 00:59:11 massive prop hyper profit aims the way they defend it is like or internally it's like to make us the most customer-centric company on earth a the employee went to floor one and was sent to floor two. So that presumably by, by a higher up 15 minutes time off task, not, not adjusted. So that's just like, well, you should have been quicker essentially.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Well, you should have known you were on the wrong floor, but I was sent by someone else to go, ah, well, I'll have to look into that anyway. Goes into the time off task. But it's,
Starting point is 00:59:44 it's, it's, this is not how human beings work and and i think yeah that's how someone who is not human works someone who does not have the rights to exist as a living human and you are 100 of like a cog that is just made of blood and guts. Yeah, and it's kind of like, we want to hire robots, but if we hire all robots, we'll get a lot of pushback.
Starting point is 01:00:12 So let's just treat our human workforce as robots, as close as we can. Like you said, it's like they're a cog in the machine. They're treating them like a drone. And if the robots were good enough, they would have hired them already. The robots aren't there yet. That's the reason that they have people. Z-Bots, this is why we need robots.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Well, they'll fire everybody the second that they can replace them with robots. Have y'all seen, all of us are in LA, have y'all seen those little delivery things that drive with a flag up? They're like little ice boxes. Yeah. I've seen them. I've kind of wanted to follow one one day if I'm not busy. I'll follow one. I just want to see what happens.
Starting point is 01:00:52 We know what's in there. Like, I do feel like I think I almost feel like it's our delivery duty. Our humanity. Kick those over. Right. I wonder like and if it's food, like what would happen happen if I, like, did kick it over and, like, eat the food? Like, is that illegal? I'm sure they have it, like, on a lock where it, like, only releases the product, like, once it's at the thing.
Starting point is 01:01:18 What if I, like, Bugs Bunny, like, pulled out a sledgehammer from my pocket? Just walk. You just tiptoe behind one of those with a giant sledgehammer. A big mallet. Yeah, a giant mallet. A big wooden mallet that expands out of your pocket. When the robot turns around, I pull over a bush.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Right. And your eyeballs are just coming through the thing, blinking. But the robot's like, Everybody at home, just trust us. We are hilarious in the Zoom video. Oh, they can picture it. They've all seen it. They've all seen it.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Who of us haven't fantasized about doing a knocking off a robo food delivery robot? All right, Zyte gang, let us know if, I'm curious, like, have you seen one of those? Have you kicked it over? Are you currently incarcerated for doing that? Because the... I've seen more videos of people helping them, to be honest, like on Twitter. Oh, interesting. Of, like, the robot being so stupid.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Right. The robot gives off the impression of a child. The robot gives off the impression of a child. It's like watching the show with the children who are going on because it looks helpless. It's moving very slow. Old enough. Yeah, old enough. It doesn't have eyes.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It just looks like a hopeless piece of shit. And you're like, you know, I want to help this little guy along. But like that thing represents just purely like grinding the humanity out of like late stage capitalism, which is where they want to head as this spreadsheet. It just never occurred to me to kick one of those things over. And I've in fact, before I've been like, it's weird that people like, like Boston dynamics had that cross country robot that was like going across the country and it just kept getting the shit kicked out of it and i was like that's funny and also like kind of perplexing that humans are just like robot kick its ass but now that i've seen how much they want to treat us like robots from this amazon spreadsheet i'm like oh the
Starting point is 01:03:22 people who are kicking that boston dynamics cross-country robots ass we're just like a step ahead of me pop pop culture has showed us in every movie since i was a child with robots that like they take over and and annihilate us that is i mean every movie that happens except wally but i guess in wally they're they're in another they're advanced they're they're even there they're advanced they're they're even there they're more advanced than us so it's always they're cute which and humans have destroyed themselves right exactly which yeah i think that's more like the wally thing is pretty accurate in the sense that we're going to destroy ourselves just we're gonna create robots that are extra good at helping us do that and do
Starting point is 01:04:06 it and be comfortable while we do it but also the idea that like robot robots aren't that i guess there's that boston dynamics uh dog robot that is scary but like for the most part like the way they're first appearing in our lives they they look kind of helpless and dumb. Well, yeah. I think it's like the frog boiling thing where it's like the robots look dumb now. And then we slowly get used to it. And we're like, ah, this one can't even one-arm shoot like an M60 machine gun. It's not stable enough.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And we're like, wait, what? Oh, my God. Wait, no. What happened? Wait a second. Jack, to answer your question, here's a report from the University of Tennessee. Two students arrested for vandalizing food delivery robot. Yeah. Back in March, two students, 19 and 20, quote, both attempted to shove the antenna of the robot inside the top compartment after receiving their food order. Oh, so they got their order and then got aggro with it. Then Callahan picked up the robot and slammed it into the ground to replace one of these robots. It will cost around $5,500. But this is the question.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Like, do you know when you're ordering food from an establishment if it's going to show up, be a robot or human? I mean, you might order food from wherever. And then all of a sudden it's like, beep, beep, bop, bop, bop, bop. It's here. You're too high to be able to handle it. Yeah. Get back in there. You poisoned me.
Starting point is 01:05:35 You poisoned me. Oh, man. Yeah. But that's, they'll make it like, there'll be a point where it's as bad as assaulting a human. Because corporations have more rights than people do. Effectively. Not necessarily by law, but effectively. That's the only thing that gets protected in this country.
Starting point is 01:05:59 That's the only thing that has enough money to spend on lawyers to actually like back that shit up in court so yeah you're gonna a cop could go into your house and shoot you dead while you're asleep yeah and do maybe lose a couple weeks pay if you fucking fucked up a cop car man they'll put you underneath the jail right and it'll lose fucking up a cop car but the gofundme that the people will make for you to recover that will probably end up being a million dollars a month for hours. Right, exactly. When they're like, we need to protect our enforcers of private property and white supremacy. Damn.
Starting point is 01:06:35 You know, it's always something new. It's all headed in the same direction. Total annihilation yeah did not think that the way amazon treats its workers would lead me down the path of we got to take down our robot overlords but like it's yeah how quick till those robots right like where people who are hungry see that as something that has food inside and try to open it so they can survive. That's what I was saying. I was just, you know what I mean? Like,
Starting point is 01:07:06 and then they're going to outfit these shits with like electrocuting fucking pros or some shit like anti-theft thing because people are star. It's, that's what I mean. Like the technology is going to be more into being like, and don't worry, destitute people have no way of getting your howling rays, hot chicken sandwich.
Starting point is 01:07:26 That's exactly. I was just thinking that I was like, if it, you know, goes by an encampment Or something like that It's just like a bucket of chicken in there It's like, you're asking people to get it Well, we also, yeah, we just live in a world Where like survival crimes are only going to increase As inequality increases 100%
Starting point is 01:07:44 But then again, like the like and then we're going to spend more fucking time making the robots hungry people proof yeah then solving the problem of hungry people yeah and funding the police because you know they'll because the crime wave of the crime wave of like people robbing robot delivery bots. And then, yeah, just ramp it up. And then Merrick Garland will announce an anti- robot hate crime bill.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Right. In preparation for the Olympics, we need to put 5,000 more cops in to make sure the robots don't get attacked. Right. In preparation for the Olympics. That's what it is. Yeah. It's such a bummer, like, how much the people who were the most paranoid in, like, the 80s and 90s have just turned out to be exactly right.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Like, exactly right. Like, the running man is about five years away. The running man. The RoboCop. Like, all those. is about five years away the robocop like all those uh the like a radio head like when they were like putting out an american flag with nazi symbols instead of stars and like shit like that that like at the time you know i was like just being basted in popular culture i was like all right guys that's a lot but they they were all exactly fucking right i like
Starting point is 01:09:07 this right okay hold on i don't know if we gotta go that far uh maybe we should cool it a little bit you're listening to like evil empire by raids for the first time you're like i don't know i don't. Does Zach really have to go there? Yeah, man. Yeah, he does. He does. He absolutely does. Because it's there.
Starting point is 01:09:32 And we're there. We don't have to go there. We're here. Yeah. Well, Bezod, truly a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? On Instagram and Twitter, I am at Bezod Dabu. That's B-E-H-Z-A-D-D-A-B-U. Nice.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I'm going to do this for my friend, Jacky Sneal, who has been on the pod. Jacky Sneal was permanently banned from Twitter for saying something like, I hope you trip or something like that. I think he said stub your toe. I hope you stub your toe to somebody who retweeted some really hateful shit. So he's been permanently banned.
Starting point is 01:10:19 And for those of you at home thinking, what's the big deal putting him on Twitter? Jack Keese is a comedian. He's a producer. He does a lot of work on podcasts. Twitter is kind of a vehicle for a lot of people. And a voice for good.
Starting point is 01:10:30 And a voice for good, you know. And Jack Keese, Twitter can be a huge part of your career. And to be permanently banned off that, it's really hard. It's been impossible for him to get a hold of somebody.
Starting point is 01:10:41 So I'm using this platform here of like, is there a tweet or content i'm following is like it it's jackie so let's if anyone out there has a way to help get him back on twitter that'll be great yeah i've been i've been asking through people i know who like used to work at instagram and like other things it's fucking it's so absurd like the how many times he's been like suspended even for 24 hours over the most like tame shit that uh you know that just kind of underlines the bizarre standards that exist and i feel like you know maybe people are like mass reporting anyway all that to say if you work at twitter if you know somebody who does yeah just let us know we'll
Starting point is 01:11:25 we'll hit them up but just let us know let us get in there and it's because it was a blue check mark that he was you know saying he hoped mildly uncomfortable things happened to them right oh he said that to a blue check yeah maddie glacius fucking like the dude who's like everybody's favorite like supposedly progressive but actual centrist yeah bullshit i don't even know who that is he like co-founded vox i think or like one of those shitty like what if the new york times had a shorter name and was mainly a website anyways fuck that guy and please help get Jakees his Twitter account back. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:12:10 What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. If you like basketball, Mad Boosties is the basketball show and we're getting into the NBA finals. Yo, invite me onto that. Oh, yeah. We'll have you on soon enough that's my jam
Starting point is 01:12:28 oh we know i mean i feel like half the time before we ever record we're always talking about basketball uh and also check oh and then this week we had carl tart on uh so for those of you who you've heard of carl check out carl tart on mad boosties also check out 420 day fiance uh a tweet that i like. Man, there's been some good ones. Here we go. Megan Gailey at Megan Gailey tweeted, unscientific poll. The anti-vax people from my high school support Johnny
Starting point is 01:12:53 Depp. Oh, that tracks. Tomato Frog at Violin B01 tweeted, do you think my therapist is ever like, man, I hope it's a gossip day today and not a trauma day. I like that one too. That one okay, right? therapist is ever like man i hope it's a gossip day today and not a trauma day yeah a part of me is like because part of me really did has thought about that where sometimes i'm just talking shit to my therapist uh and other times i'm trying to sort through some stuff but yeah let us know therapist if you if you ever think about that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Some tweets I've been enjoying. Brian Bahi, a former guest, one of the greats, tweeted, Pride Month taught me it was okay to be a corporation. And then Kiefer at Danny Vegito tweeted, yeah, Top Gun is propaganda. I'm taking a propaganda at Jennifer Connelly. Oh, okay. Like a propaganda. Yeah, saw that.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Propaganda, more like Topagunda. That was our killer title this week. Still my favorite title we've ever done. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're a genius. I've said it enough times.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Like, I don't need to say it again, but. No genius. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Starting point is 01:14:25 as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Okay. This is going to be a track that was, I just started listening to some tracks by this Indian artist who came and started, kind of like started a new career in the U.S., Asha Putley in the the 70s and this track is called let me in your life and it's got like those like disco mini ripperton vibes so if you
Starting point is 01:14:52 like that kind of uh you know very wonderful voice and disco-y production you're gonna like this and a lot of the other work from asha putley is fantastic too so this is let me in your life all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to y'all then. Bye.
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