The Daily Zeitgeist - Bieber vs Cruise … But Like, WHY? Stalin So Hot Right Now 6.11.19
Episode Date: June 11, 2019In episode 410, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Eric Lampaert to discuss the new Jamba Juice, Justin Bieber challenging Tom Cruise, people pretending to be black on the internet in the worse way..., Beto not doing so hot, a story about Kawhi Leonard and apples, a video game wrap up, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. meet the new jamba: how this iconic brand is growing up with its guests2. Justin Bieber challenges Tom Cruise to MMA fight in bizarre tweet3. "Jive Talk"4. CNN Iowa Poll: Biden leads a tighter top tier in first caucus state5. People Actually Believe This Ridiculous and Fake Kawhi Leonard Red Apples Anecdote6. Russian Communists See Red Over 'Sex With Stalin' Video Game7. ‘Sex With Stalin’ Developer Reveals What Led Him to Create Bizarre BDSM Game8. WATCH: Dizzee Rascal - Bassline Junkie (Explicit) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Miles, we have a disclaimer up top.
An important disclaimer that
I want to share with the Zeitgang
because we talk
about a story during the course
of this episode about Kawhi Leonard
and about halfway
through we learn that that
story is fake.
We do learn, we do correct the record
live, but it would drive me crazy if i
was listening to a podcast and hearing them report on a thing that i knew to be fake and i wouldn't
be able to think about anything else so you should know that we know the kawaii story is fake yeah we
knew that so like don't you know it's like we're chill so yeah yeah no we're actually reporting
we're actually recording this disclaimer before we even recorded the episode.
Because we knew that, and we're just like, you know, trying to get ahead of it.
Yeah, we're just like, we thought it would be cool if you thought we thought that it was like that,
but obviously we didn't, because we're smart.
Okay, on to the episode.
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cause we're never really
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forget the men in white who took that right from me.
And I'll proudly kneel down next to you and defend black life today.
Cause there ain't no doubt I'm scared as hell.
God save the USA.
Woo!
Yeah!
That was just more of a take on God Bless.
I'm proud to be an American.
Not quite an AKA for me, but I like the lyrics.
And that is from Allison Rosen at AllisonRosen5.
Yes.
None of these, let's be honest, none of these would work really well as AKs, as nicknames.
No, you wouldn't say it.
An entire Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle.
Oh, what else do I go by?
I go by Miles, Mr. Gray.
I go by I'm Not Proud to Be an American.
That's a song.
It's a parody song.
How you been, Miles?
This is the first I'm seeing you in days.
Oh, man.
Well, yeah.
And yesterday, you know, we were flying off cold brew.
I know, man.
And just so you know, I don't know if the listeners can hear this, but this is cracking another Kirkland Panther Colombian cold brew. I know. And just so you know, I don't know if the listeners can hear this, but it's cracking another
Kirkland Panther
Colombian cold brew.
Is that what it was?
That's what you guys were high on?
That's what had Matt Rogers singing the fucking
Matrix.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined
in our thirds by the hilarious
and talented Eric
Lampert. Hi, gentlemen.
Hello, sir.
Great to be back.
It's great to have you back, man.
It's like the fourth, fifth time that I'm in your presence.
We don't even keep track anymore.
No, it's just normal now.
You're a mainstay and ever-present.
Can I just say, I really like that at the end of your song,
there was a bomb sound effect.
Yes.
I was like, that really adds the American touch.
Exactly.
I like it.
That's called foreign policy.
Yeah, yeah. That is how you do's called foreign policy. Yeah, yeah.
That is how you do it.
Diplomacy, baby.
We're here to help you give us your oil.
Eric, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about.
We're going to talk about the fact that Jamba Juice has gone with an AKA.
It is their 30th anniversary, and they just want to go by Jamba now.
We're going to talk about Justin Bieber
versus Tom Cruise for some reason.
Yeah, like Bonnie.
White people being bad at pretending to be black people
on the internet.
Go home, Beto, just being a general vibe,
general wave that's out there.
Yeah.
GOP snowflakery.
We're going to talk about Trump's rousing rendition of no deal or no deal.
Yeah.
With the Mexico border tariff thing.
We're going to talk about the fact that Kawhi Leonard is an alien and the Apple-based conversation.
Not Apple, the company.
Apple, the food.
And then we're going to do a
quick video game roundup because we don't do that enough and as everybody knows i'm an expert on the
subject and people are just dying to hear my takes uh but first eric let's get some of your takes
what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh the uh the m drive
scientists have discovered that they can sort of
uh create uh convert electricity into microwaves and channel this electromagnetic radiation through
a conical chamber uh it was like basically they're working on this thing to see how far they can get
in space right like can humans travel to like another galaxy and we need a different type of
engine yeah yeah right and so they they they had this mythical idea of something called an M-drive,
and they recently discovered that they can do it.
Oh, cool.
Now, they haven't actually tested it out in space,
but they tested it in a sort of lab, and there was a slight movement,
and they're looking into it.
Wow.
And that was my latest search.
Now I have been converting
electricity into microwaves
in my kitchen for a long time.
With a neuroscientist.
Do you work for NASA? I do.
Actually I have a
highly secretive device
called a microwave. What were you
going to say Miles? I'm sure it was better than that.
I was just curious. Was the M drive something conceived
in science fiction first,
or it was just a thing that was theoretically
people were thinking of?
Oh, interesting.
I don't know,
but the beauty of science fiction
is that they do sort of come up with these ideas
and then scientists are like,
huh, maybe.
But it was an idea that most scientists were like,
no.
Which is such a stupid thing for a scientist to say.
Right, exactly.
Until you've got evidence, it's all possible.
The history of science is so full of scientists just being like,
preposterous about ideas that it's like, I don't know,
don't you guys know by now that shit is going to get very weird in the future,
just like 40 steps from now oh please in the
future it's right weird now in the weird in the year 2000 uh things are gonna get real weird man
uh yeah they were talking about on last podcast on the left they were talking about a movement
among sci-fi writers to try to write more utopian science fiction because uh there's a belief in the sci-fi community that basically science
fiction has been manifesting itself. If you look at a lot of the sci-fi, like Watchmen has a
president or a leader that looks a lot like Trump. So the idea is that rather than writing dystopian
stuff, you write utopian sci-fi and we will somehow manifest into that
because we've also manifested a bunch of the technology from sci-fi yeah and actually i think
that makes sense you watch the latest black mirror season i have not um so episode one i'm not going
to reveal too much but it's actually one of the beautiful episodes oh uh oh so it's one of the
nicey nice ones yeah and it gives an idea of like, it's not all scary in the future, as long as we
guide it towards a beautiful way of looking at it.
Right, right.
So yeah, I quite like that.
Nice.
What is something you think is underrated?
Underrated?
Well, actually, the study of mythology.
Okay.
My dad, I read a book called Mythos by Stephen Fry earlier this year. And I also read Norse mythology by Neil Gaiman earlier this year. And my dad saw me with those books. He was like, what are you fucking reading these for?
Right.
I was like, oh, I just want to know like about the past. He was like, it's history, isn't it? Like, forget about it. I was like, dad, like, no. And I like his attitude and like, yeah, okay, it's in the past, you can sort of move forward. But I think the only way to really move forward is by knowing our past.
And mythology, it's about all these, you know, multiple gods,
which I don't believe in.
But at the same time, you then read about it and it's like, okay,
the first god was chaos, which is the universe.
I was like, okay, great.
And then you look at other gods and it's like, whoa,
the etymology of these gods and how, like, they're still in our language. You know, and then you, I was gods and it's like whoa the etymology of these gods and how like they're still in our language you know and then you i was kind of overwhelmed after i read
it because i was like whoa they're still around right yeah you know and then it was kind of
it adds poetry to life which i really like like wind is a god and so now when i feel wind i'm
like i'm being kissed by god what about fire Fire's in there. Heart. Heart.
Water.
Well, here's a beautiful story of heart.
We're talking about Captain Planet now.
Oh, I like that.
Remember, because they all each had earth, wind, water, fire.
Everyone had the African guy's voice.
Heart was more for like, yo, let's make this bear chill the fuck out.
Right.
Oh, okay.
Well, is heart love?
Yeah.
Which I think you need, right? You need love to take care of the out. Right. Oh, okay. Well, is heart love? Yeah. Which I think you need, right?
You need love to take care of the planet.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I've been looking at trees lately.
Can I just say that my dick is hard for trees right now?
Wow.
Can I say that?
Dendrophile?
Oh, my God.
Is that what it's called?
Something.
I just remember someone in the show was...
I won't obviously procreate with a tree.
I don't think that's possible.
Yeah, dendrophile. But lately lately i've been looking at trees like shit i breathe out what you need and you
breathe out what i need let's just hang out let's just kiss wow it's been nice it's been a weird
adventure how many uh home depots have you been kicked out in the gardening areas they're like
that guy's back in the nursery he's back he. He's licking the palms. I would not go to the nursery.
Well, okay.
Okay.
We meant, yes.
Robin the cradle.
Yes, yes.
Only fully over 100-year-old plus trees.
If you had to fuck a tree, though, what tree would it be?
General Sherman.
Okay.
Wow, you knew.
Off the rip.
I was going to say, are you an expert on just what you call people who want to fuck inanimate objects?
Or do you really want to fuck trees?
And that's why you had that on the tip of your tongue.
You know what's funny?
There's this performance artist named Paul McCarthy.
Oh, okay.
I was going to say, I don't know if you've heard of Paul McCartney.
He's been in a little band.
No, yeah.
John Lemon.
John Lemon.
He does a lot of really freaky art and i remember
one of the like when my dad was in grad school like for art you know he didn't there was no
babysitters and whatever like you know my both my parents were working so he would drag me to a lot
of art shows and there's this one piece that or this show that paul mccarthy did where one of the
there was like an animatronic of a lumberjack
just fucking humping a tree.
And I remember seeing it as a kid
and I was like, what the fuck is,
it was like one of my first times going,
like remembering going to an art show.
That's cool.
Huh.
But that's imprinted on you.
That's imprinted.
And now you want to fuck trees.
From the Helter Skelter show.
Right.
So now, yeah, now I just think about,
I have a little, you know,
I have like a catalog of trees I look at
and just admire them.
But you know,
I don't think I'm going to take my relationship to the physical level.
That's fair.
I enjoy the breathing.
I have to say, gentlemen, I once received a blowjob inside a tree.
Inside a tree? It was a hollow tree.
Like Pan's Labyrinth style?
Yeah, it was a goat.
It was actually a goat, that.
It's also a goat, man.
Someone with hand eyes.
Hey, you haven't said which tree you'd do, Jack.
Oh, yeah.
Interesting.
Mine's eucalyptus, just because I think the height...
Oh, yeah, you are kind of eucalyptus-y.
That's a good question.
Seems like a seagull, man.
Probably the big redwoods up in North Carolina.
Yeah, General Sherman.
It's a good choice.
Oh, General Sherman.
It's one of the most famous ones, you know?
Oh, okay.
You can drive through it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Really?
Exactly.
Oh, I need to see this tree, man.
Exactly, bro.
You already know.
Yeah, you know what it is.
These trees know what time it is.
Yeah.
No, mine is actually a bonsai tree.
Oh, damn.
Just so I would feel big. Yeah. No, mine is actually Bonsai Tree. Oh, damn.
Delicate art.
I feel big.
I feel like a man.
The opposite of General Sherman.
Oh, look at what happened to our show.
What is something
you think is overrated?
Videos of puppies
and kittens online.
Is it overrated?
Yeah.
So I understand
that we need them.
Okay, Mr. Tree Man,
what happened to me?
Why?
Because I love them.
There's nothing better than seeing a puppy or a kitten do something beautiful.
I thought we were going hard floor and no fauna here.
But I find that they are sort of numbing us to the fact that there's loads of pain in the world.
And it's like, oh, don't worry, just look at these puppies and kids.
Eye bleach, eye bleach, as we call it.
And so that's the one thing that I find beautiful in a way,
but also frustrating
is that the internet
is like the most retweets
will be like a video of a cat
doing something hilarious.
And then someone going,
hey, Flint doesn't get any water.
Yeah, 50 retweets, mate.
But the dog licking a cat,
100 million retweets.
Well, I think it's just because
people feel so powerless over those other things, right?
So it just builds on itself.
No, the power's within you, Captain Planet.
He's a hero, gonna take pollution down to zero.
Used to do the remix in school.
I would say, take pollution up to 100.
And my teacher didn't like that.
Wait, your teacher was familiar with the Captain Planet?
Yeah, she was like, we're the Planeteers.
You could be one too,
because saving our planet is the thing to do.
Looting and polluting is not the way.
Here's what Captain Planet has to say.
Wow.
With your powers combined.
Yo, I was fucked up off Captain Planet.
Captain Planet had bars, man.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that was the Planeteers.
All right, my bad.
Yeah.
I am not familiar with that show.
Did you just miss that generationally, I guess?
I don't think I missed it generationally.
I just think I wasn't paying attention to that particular show.
You're like, shit was whack.
Exactly.
But yeah, I also probably might be too old for it.
Yet Jason Pargin writes, says David Wong,
sometimes we'll combine the two,
so he'll write a really depressing article and put in images of kittens and puppies to like sort of break it up.
That's also a way to go about it.
That makes sense.
A bit of balance in everyone's lives.
Yeah.
And finally, what is a myth, Eric?
What is something that people think is true that you know to be false or vice versa?
Well, so we were just talking about before going on a podcast that i believe that people that experience mania are not actually mad but they're actually tapping into something
bigger than ourselves which i find interesting so i experienced mania two months ago wow and it was
honestly one of the best experiences of my life and it's changed how i view things and i used to
think that i knew everything and now i'm like I feel like I'm back
to square one you really thought you thought you knew everything no but like I was I am quite smart
like I used to be ashamed of saying I'm quite smart now I'm like no you know what I right I
was such a nerd at school I read all about the science maths right all about the I'm just a nerd
like I love it and I got to a point and Albert Einstein even says it the more you study science
the more you start believing in God and I wasn't into that because I was like a point, and Albert Einstein even says it, the more you study science, the more you start believing in God.
And I wasn't into that because I was like, no, no God.
And now I'm like, well, I don't know.
And mania is what gave me that little flavor of like,
what am I experiencing?
And it's a nice balance between, you know, I keep a journal now because I'm going, hey, you could be mentally ill.
And the way I, like the one thing i said is
some psychiatrists came to see my stand-up show in london and they came up to me afterwards and
they were like you need to do to do this show to like psychiatrists and patients right and i was
like yeah i'd like to do that and they were like and they said because psychiatrists they know how
the brain works they know the details but they've not experienced it and to explain it to like a
really simple way which i sort of i'm trying to work on, I guess,
is someone that could create beer might know the ingredients, exactly how to make beer.
But if they've never tasted it or if they've never been drunk on it, they don't know everything about beer.
Right.
And that's how I feel about psychiatrists is that you might know exactly how to make beer.
You ain't drank any of it.
You don't know about beer.
Shut up.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's good that the people making your beer aren't drunk.
Right.
I think that's true as well.
Right.
So I feel like it would be nice if a scientist out there would explore mania as not a mental
breakdown, but as a possibility that it opened a gateway to something else.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that's really interesting.
That's where I'm at.
And I think it's, I feel like just one thing you briefly touched on
is that people at the mental health facility were actually helpful
because you rarely hear that in popular culture just any
culture in general it's always the one flew over the cuckoo's nest nurse ratchet type shit don't
get me wrong like it i felt like that a little bit you know like i had to learn how to trade
cigarettes for things right which was really interesting yeah uh they they you know there's
this shot there's a lot a lot of time in movies you see this shot of these mental patients just wandering the halls.
And you look at that and you're like, man, they're so mad.
No, they haven't got anything to do.
I was doing that.
I was just wandering the halls just going, all right, got to kill some time.
Right.
And then, like, for example, I would start making myself laugh because I'm just on my own kind of thing.
And then I was like, whoa, from an outside perspective. I'm that extra.
I'm that.
But it wasn't that I was mad. I was just
enjoying myself. I'm just trying to fill
my time. Yeah. Well, this definitely
warrants some
follow-up. People should go
see you live or read
whatever book you eventually write on the subject.
Well, I appreciate that.
All right. But we have important things to get to because Jamba Juice turned 30.
Sorry, mate.
Sorry.
Jamba Juice now.
Jamba Juice has important things to tell us.
So they are celebrating their 30th anniversary as an institution,
and they're doing so by doing a thing that all brands are now doing,
it seems like.
Just cut the other part.
Just Jamba, baby.
No Jamba juice anymore.
That makes sense because I'm guessing that they are exploring different avenues,
not just juice.
Same thing when Dunkin' Donuts was like, call us Dunkin'.
Or KFC is like, we're not really Kentucky Fried.
Let's just go KFC.
Or IHOP, which we still have to do battle in the seventh circle of hell with IHOP
over their stupid-ass marketing.
But, yeah,
I think, well, yeah, exactly. For the exact reason
that Jamba Juice wants to be like, look,
we do more than juices, but we do
more than sugar drinks, basically.
We do other weird things
like pretzels that aren't that good.
But, I mean, look,
I support them them you know
in their journey yeah 30 years discovery i didn't think it was that fucking old yeah but i guess i
don't i was only around like when it fully like crested the way it crested and all the franchises
open we weren't aware like during the first five years when they were probably just like a couple
shops here and there but um yeah i I'm going to now go by Ja.
Wow.
I'm shortening it.
You mean Ja?
Ja.
Oh, Brian.
Just Ja.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You got one little dreadlock going?
Uh-huh.
That's just, I haven't showered in months.
Yeah, I haven't brushed my hair.
Oh, damn it.
Locked up again.
The weekend one dreadlock.
Yeah, I mean, I hope, again, I wish you luck.
I hope, I don't know if this is going to help your business,
but, you know, they're really like,
all the stores have like facelifts
or they're in the process of changing everything.
So I'm just, you know, I will have,
I think I drink about one Jamba Juice every three years.
So yeah, yeah.
I think that's about right.
Do you keep a diary?
Yes.
Or I just, every, like multiples of three. So in 2022, I. I think that's about right. Do you keep a diary? Yes. Or I just every, like, multiples of three.
So in 2022, I will have one.
Okay.
Because I had one this year.
I didn't have one since 2016.
Wow, that's amazing that you can keep that going in your head.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Certain things, you know, that's how we...
Does your body just naturally recognize it, like, has an every two-year craving for...
I try every three years.
Three years, my bad.
Yes, and just somebody i wake up
and i go i need a caribbean passion yeah so they're it sounds like who wouldn't yeah i mean
exactly i don't know what i don't know what the taste is like no i want some caribbean passion
yeah everybody loves caribbean oh yeah i mean i'm not a strawberry so with juices and bowls uh it's
it sounds like they're going they're trying to be sort of a lower price point cafe gratitude.
Less-
Without the affirmations?
Yeah, exactly.
Are there cafe gratitudes outside of LA?
I don't know.
Are there?
Who knows?
It's a very LA thing where all the menu items are basically affirmations.
Right.
You're like, I'm going to have an I Love Myself.
It's a vegan restaurant with, yes, each menu item is named after.
And I think, didn't the placemats or, like,
didn't their coasters have, like, sacred geometry on it?
So when you put your water glass on it, like,
it's feeding back the sacred geometry to your water or some shit.
I mean, I'd never heard that, but I just felt it as I drank the water from Cafe Gratitude.
Check out, like, Lateralis by Tool, dude.
They use a whole fucking sacred geometry to fucking basically write that off.
It's next level.
Is that Cafe Gratitude that you said?
Yeah.
That's an interesting, I'd visit that place because, you know, it sounds silly,
like calling a coffee, I love myself.
Right.
But generally, if you walk into there, you'll then pick up that, all right?
It'll go in your head.
So subconsciously, you'll be like, I love myself.
100%.
Which is actually quite smart sort of psychological
way to trick people and manipulate them into helping themselves right and also people into
being hippies it's our liberal agenda that we've all been talking about for years like yeah because
the guacamole is called connected so in alabama fuck off all right i'm out sorry fuck you fuck
yeah oh fuck yeah what would be an Alabama coffee shop?
Like, what would that coffee be called?
I don't know.
Alabama's got some cool parts.
In Alabama?
I don't know.
They might be like, not today.
But I think with Cafe Gratitude, you know, it's the same way.
Like, imagine if you went to a restaurant where, like, the water's cold.
Fuck you.
Right.
Then you'd be like, yo, the vibe in here isn't fucked up.
So it's true.
Like, if you just switch it, if everything's positive, then I don't think you're going to go in there and be like, oh, I don't know.
Unless you're a real cynic.
Or you have that culty look in your eye and you're like, hi, welcome to Cafe Gratitude.
And you're like, mm-hmm, I'll just have guacamole.
They're like, um, you mean connected?
I'm sorry, what?
All right, we're going to take a quick break.
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And Justin Bieber is back in the news because,
and this is just going to be a real brief check-in,
but he has challenged. Just read the tweet out loud.
Okay, so Justin Bieber, quote,
I want to challenge Tom Cruise to fight in the Octagon.
Tom, if you don't take this fight, you're sick.
Y-O-U-R.
Scared and you will never live it down.
Who is willing to put on the fight?
Question mark.
Dana White?
Question mark.
No one knows what this is.
Yeah, no context.
No context.
Nobody knows what the fuck is going on.
Nobody.
Conor McGregor stepped in and was like,
all my company will put the fight on if Tom Cruise agrees.
Did he?
But like, what the fuck are they going to do?
I don't even understand why they would fight.
Yeah.
Did something happen?
Is it...
Because what, Tom Cruise is what, 56?
He'll be 57 in July.
Justin Bieber, how old is Justin Bieber?
What's Justin been up to since he's sort of not been up too much?
He's 25. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It seems like this up to since he's sort of not been up too much? He's 25.
I don't know. It seems like
this might be... He's married?
You know? Is he?
People have been concerned about his mental health
in the tabloids, which are
always...
How old is he? He's 25.
And he's been basically
deified since the age of 13,
14. Yeah, that makes sense.
Because the prefrontal cortex,
the part of the brain that sort of deals with complex thinking
and social skills and just your thoughts,
it takes about 25 years to develop.
So if he's 25 now,
it means that his brain has developed during that time.
And yeah, he has been this sort of deity to the world.
So like his brain must be, like I was telling you about how like we've all got different
brains.
He's looking at Tom Cruise right now.
His world must be insane because he's actually developed as a sort of superstar.
Well, right.
And he's only had people saying like, yes, Justin, whatever you need, Justin.
Oh my God, that's so great, Justin.
And then, I mean, who knows where that takes you? The self-edit function is not highly developed on him.
But I mean, first of all,
I think Tom Cruise will beat the fucking shit out of Justin.
Oh yeah, experience.
Yeah, and I mean like-
Plus, he's his own stuntman.
Tom Cruise is not scared of breaking a bone.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, I respect Justin for his music
because I saw him do a bit of drumming when he was like six.
And I was like, holy crap, you're good.
All right, kid.
But I've not seen him get in a scrap.
Well, Tom Cruise, he'll break bones from falling out of a helicopter.
And then Xenu, the lord savior of Scientology, will be like, you're healed.
Exactly.
Jump back up.
Who's Justin Bieber coming in the ring with?
Because Tom Cruise is bringing Xenu in there.
He's got that Jesus calf tattoo man
that's true
but I mean
I don't know
Jesus versus Xenu
they have to dress up
as those deities
then you have a real
then we've got a fight
and they've completely
made a mockery
of both of their beliefs
I'm like great
fine
Xenu versus Jesus
as played by
Justin Bieber
and Tom Cruise
but yeah I mean I don't know I'm really curious what is this also the cynical Like, fine, Xenu versus Jesus, as played by Justin Bieber and Tom Cruise.
But, I mean, I'm really curious what is this also the cynical part of me is like, okay, what are they promoting?
Right.
Because this clearly you're just now you've put two names together and now there's a ton of write ups about Tom Cruise and Justin Bieber.
What will happen?
It could be as simple as like he's just like had a weird episode and yeah he was like who's the
most powerful person in Hollywood which you could say Tom Cruise is one of them right right and he
was like feel like this is a very old man reference for a 25 year old like I would expect him to just
be finding out who Tom Cruise is maybe he was watching something and he was like yeah I bet
I could beat Tom great ass and. Nah, come on Justin.
This dude's tight. He's on a motorcycle shooting
guns. Come on Justin. Maybe he watched Tropic Thunder
where he's got a bit of a bald head.
He's seeing
Tropic Thunder for the first time and go
damn, Tom Cruise let his shit go.
I'm beating this version of Tom Cruise.
Alright, never mind Justin.
I do like the idea of the psychology
of somebody who's just been watching Tom Cruise's career the whole time just being like, God, I can't kick that guy's ass.
When am I going to be able to kick that guy's ass?
And then he's finally like, whoo, got it.
Oh, yeah, whenever he tweeted that, whatever, he did his like 300 push-ups in a row.
And he's like, I promised myself when I could do that, I'm ready to beat Tom Cruise's ass.
I'm ready to beat Tom Cruise's ass.
Beating up Tom Cruise as your monomaniacal Captain Ahab goal,
I like that character.
We need to develop that.
So watch this space.
We're just going to check in here with a reminder that white people are bad at pretending to be black people on the internet.
I wanted to revisit this trend.
Can I just say, as a comedian, I really wanted to do some sort of voice as you said that.
Right. That would have been the comedy moment.
Yeah. But I was like, no, go on. Just be real.
No, I would love to hear it. Okay. Here is my black voice.
Hello everyone. Hello everyone. You don't know that I'm not black.
Yeah. Very measured. Oh, I'm sorry. Did I not meet your societal expectation of what I was supposed to say?
Then I believe you are the bad person.
Oh, shit.
So there is a trend that goes back probably as long as there's been the internet where, you know,
white people do a bad job sock puppeting their own politics with burner accounts, meant to convince other white people
that black men usually are who they want them to be. In the very early days of TDZ, we covered the,
I forget what the name of the street is, some famous Houston street loot crew in the aftermath
of Harvey in Houston, because white gun owners have a recurring fantasy that they'll get to shoot people who are trying to enter their home
and get to shoot looters who are trying to loot their home during a hurricane.
And it was just horribly, clearly your grandfather trying to do a rap.
It was like someone saw an episode of A Different World
and thought that's how black people talk.
And it was from
1988 and then plus on top of all the slang was oh it sounded like what you hear at a like if you
ever hear somebody do a bad impression of what they think african-american person talks like
is what those tweets read like and you're almost reading this shit like yes what the fuck is this? So somebody did a search, an image, reverse image search on the avatar of somebody on Twitter named The Dope Conservative.
Oh, that's a paradox.
And they found that their avatar was a stock photo for black guy glasses.
Oh, if you just search black guy?
Yeah, it's one of the early Google image searches, and it's on one of the stock photo houses.
And his tweets include such gems as,
What is it about black conservatives that confuse you crackers so much?
He exists!
Clearly.
Why did this account come up?
Did somebody just discover, they're like, yo, this account, there's something going on over here with the dope conservative.
Yes.
I think somebody just pointed out the fact that they were clearly not the avatar that they had put up there.
I mean, these other tweets.
Yes.
Magalish83 pointed out that there's another tweet.
I'm just going to read it to you guys.
Brother just trying to work his way out of poverty and Democrats be like, stay on welfare, boy.
And then, so that would be enough to blow your mind.
That does sound like a white writer.
Yes.
On the nose it is.
But then that tweet closes out with this gem fuck out of here
with that jive talk
that was close fuck out of here is very
that's very modern
or not modern but like that's a very
east coast thing it would have been better if he
just did F-O-H
and with fuck out
fuck out of here like not even fuck
out of here fuck out of here
with that jive doc.
It does feel like whoever wrote this, if he had to create a French character,
it'd be like, oh, I can't believe.
Sacre bleu.
Like, everyone, because I'm actually French.
I don't sound it.
And every time people are like, oh, sacre bleu, right?
And I'm like, no.
No.
No one's ever said that in France.
Like, this is only in Disney movies.
What does sacre Bleu even mean?
Sacred blue.
And it's like an expression like, oh, fuck.
Which I'm sure existed.
Right, right.
At some point.
But no one's ever going to say that in France.
The only time I hear it is when Americans are like, hey, Sacre Bleu, no?
Right.
Sacre Bleu.
And so, like, I believe that this guy, guy whoever this white guy is should write actually
some spoof accounts for like every country yes sure just to see what he comes out with was this
was the account trying to sort of basically just pretend that there was sort of this
black conservative person who was like man trump really fucking pulling up for my people y'all
yes exactly with a z on the end right because that's tight yeah because
they were you know they they were tired of being called racist by their kids and everybody at
thanksgiving and so they were like what if i create i'll do the twitter version of loquisha
this exactly the twitter version they're like, kids? Your old man's behind that account. You think I'm cool now?
Oh, my God. I talk like the brothers.
Let's talk about Beto O'Rourke, you guys.
Yeah, that's enough.
Enough of that.
So Beto is still out here running.
Run, Beto, run.
Yeah.
And the newest polls out of Iowa are,
everything's tightening up, up top.
You got your Bidens and your Bernie Sanders
and your Elizabeth Warrens and your Pete Buttigiegs
all getting like closer together.
So it's not like a runaway thing in Iowa.
Yeah.
together um so it's not like a runaway thing in iowa yeah uh and uh kamala harris is at five percent uh with seven percent support uh bedo where's bedo bedo bedo bedo where are you at two
percent oh no um he says there's still plenty of time yeah i don't know you know bedo it was a
terrible announcement you made it didn't't, everything was wonky.
Then you just started jumping up on tables.
You became a meme and you wasn't able to quite convert on that Senate run.
And it seems like a lot of people, even in Texas, or, you know, at least the respondents
to a certain poll of Democrats in Texas, 60% of them want him to just knock off the
presidential cosplay and just come run for Cornyn's seat in the Senate.
Right. Which is great because I think that
is something the Democrats really need
are some very good challengers
in the Senate because that's where
the fucking, the real gridlock
is happening. Right. So
yeah, I don't know, Beto, you know
it's a, you know, if you feel like
there's more time, maybe something will
happen. Who knows? Maybe Joe Biden will pick you to be the running mate.
And that's why you're still in it.
I don't know.
Yeah, that was a rumor, right?
Yeah, some people say something like that.
Yeah.
But, yeah, good luck to you.
Very cool.
Very cool ticket.
But, yeah, I mean, I'm surprised how much, you know, Buttigieg is now,
he's really in the mix with Bernie and Elizabeth Warren now.
And Kamala Harris, yeah.
Kamala Harris is now, she isn't even in double double digits so yeah yeah it seems like the judge has surged warren has
continued to surge so yeah and her ideas there's been a few there are a few pieces that came out
over the weekend that were sort of pointing to the fact that her just prolific output of policy
papers is actually helping nudge many of the other
candidates to get their shit together on policy.
So, you know, she's doing her homework.
Well, thanks for both teaching me that because I didn't really keep up to date with American
politics.
Yeah, you don't need to, honestly, because it's all a hellscape.
Right.
You know?
In all fairness, in the UK, it's not much better.
Exactly.
Yeah, well.
Let's talk about our grand old party, the Republicans.
So the House Judiciary Committee is having their Lessons from the Mueller Report presentation this week.
It started yesterday.
And the Republicans wanted to kind of set the guidelines for what you were and were not allowed to say.
Yeah, because this is kind of like Jerry Nadler's way of saying like, well, let's get experts
in here to talk about the Mueller report in a very clear way.
So American people could just like hear what's happening.
Even if you didn't read it, we'll have former U.S. attorneys, people who are involved in
the Watergate investigations just to explain things like obstruction of justice, just to kind of get people on board. But Doug Collins from Georgia is really wanting people to
be civil throughout this whole process. And he's doing it. It's so lame. He's like basically saying
like, don't don't like come with the president too hard during this thing. OK, just I'm just
going to read part of this letter that he sent to Jerry Nadler, who is the chairperson of the
committee, said in light of Monday's hearing entitled Lessons from the Mueller Report, I'm just going to read part of this letter that he sent to Jerry Nadler, who is the chairperson of the committee.
He said,
In light of Monday's hearing entitled Lessons from the Mueller Report, Presidential Obstruction and Other Crimes, I'm compelled to remind you and request you remind the majority members of the committee the rules of the House prohibit members of, quote, engaging in personalities with members of Congress, senators or the president.
This appears to be part of a strategy to turn the committee's oversight hearings into a mock impeachment inquiry rather than a legitimate exercise in congressional oversight.
So then he basically goes on to say, like, there's certain language that shouldn't be
used because of, like, certain decorum, rules of decorum in the House.
Under the standard, the following remarks regarding personal conduct, demeanor, or attributes
have been held out of order as unparliamentary references.
So these are things that Doug Collins is saying, don't say this stuff during these hearings,
which is, one, discussing personal conduct even as a point of reference or comparison.
Two, cowardly or cowardice or lacking personal courage.
Three, quote, a little bugger.
Four, quote, disgusting and, quote, despicable, quote, disgraceful, quote, disgusting and indecent rhetoric.
Why is he scared of a little bugger?
I don't know.
Like that's going to be the thing that ultimately brings Trump down.
That sounds like a very British insult.
I know.
Oh, he's such a little bugger.
I know.
I'm like, where did that come from?
Floor of Parliament.
Someone must have been watching Downton Abbey before they made the floor.
You know, you were talking about like language and how it should be used.
I'd love to just hear maybe the first couple of sentences of that letter,
but read as a love letter.
Can you just give me a little taste?
In light of Monday's hearing,
entitled Lessons from the Mueller Report,
my beloved, presidential obstruction and other crimes.
No, I don't think it works.
The point is still, please don't use adjectives
that are to
describe the president's behavior or conduct yeah and then there's still more like saying quote not
a large enough person to apologize arrogant mean-spirited cruel ill-tempered or lacking
temperament or infantile throwing quote hissy fits, was rooting against or was turning ones back on the American people.
So this is a list of things that they know are true about the president that they don't want
them to say. Or that's what he's saying. He'll be triggered, right? It is not. Yeah. It is not
in order to call the president a, quote, liar or accuse such person of, quote, lying. Right. And
then just goes on with more things don't talk about deception deceit
acting in a duplicitous manner so yes very much trying to say like they they have to be coddled
through this because i think as you know you want to deal in self-delusion so much when you're having
to be confronted by these other people who are looking at and being like this is actually
reprehensible for a president what are you you guys doing? Their only defense is like, can you guys not just remind us?
Right.
But use the civility shield.
It is interesting.
It's like, how do you talk to a child who's been spoiled?
Right.
Because essentially the word infantile is perfect.
And we even discussed it about the brain again.
The first 25 years of your life is how you develop.
Imagine the world that Trump developed in, in the first 25 years of his life is how you develop. Imagine the world that Trump developed in
in the first 25 years of his life.
His dad probably was away all the time,
hated him. I don't know
anything about his mom, so I'm not going to guess too much,
but he had to never
be hungry.
He has no concept
of struggle.
I don't think he has none of it.
I think aside from maybe his like
his baldness right you know i mean like that's the kind of thing he'll be like yeah damn it
let it have to be me this is bullshit but it's never like oh i can't afford my medical bills
there has been and i hope i don't offend anyone in a way but also get over it uh that there's
been studies about how like you know very rich people who don't experience
struggle in that sort of development stage they remain in this sort of infantile stage
because they have no idea of struggle while poorer people have to balance everything yeah right and
so they're actually like puzzle they're all puzzle solvers because they have to just do what they can with the best they can.
While rich people just go money, throw money at it.
Right.
Right.
And it's really interesting to like observe that.
Like since reading that, I'm like, oh, yeah.
Like and I'm not talking about rich people that like made it from nothing.
Right.
I'm talking about the ones that were just born into it.
Right.
And they are like, well, money.
Trump inherited millions of dollars.
Like he was a millionaire by the time he was two or three years old.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was a self-made millionaire as a baby.
Right.
Let's not forget that.
Let's not take that away from him.
He was born.
Yeah.
So that was his greatest achievement.
So it is interesting that they have to go, look, don't talk to him like a kid because
he is 69, even though he is a kid in his head.
Right.
It's wild it also has the distinct
ring of like when you when you hear about how celebrities are treated like it's very much just
like shielding them from very specific things they know are going to set them off yeah and it's just
like like the john mccain ship thing yeah yeah he gets mad so guys like we we all have to look he
hits me he hits me in the face, but he does love me.
Or like a mean boss or something.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's just everybody has this sort of cover your ass from a temper tantrum.
That's why I think it's doubly important for people when they look at presidential candidates.
The thing I'm most concerned is, does this person actually have a real experience with struggle or the imbalance in this country?
Because if it's someone like Donald, that's abstract to Donald Trump.
That is fucking abstract to Joe Biden.
That is abstract to a lot of candidates.
And then there are the few that actually you can tell by the way they talk
and the issues that they see being the biggest problems in this country
are coming from a place of being like, I understand.
Or even if I didn't experience it, I can very deeply empathize
with the situation
of somebody who's struggling to make ends meet on a very basic level.
Because most people, they still have their class blinders onto the world and think everything
is just this one way.
And if you didn't make it, it's because you weren't good.
You should have made better deals.
That's why Ocasio-Cortez is just coming out of the darkness and everyone's like, I like
this lady.
Yeah.
Well, exactly.
And just connecting to very real things. And it's not like these big, broad,
overly generalized takes on the economy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, right, growth versus like,
hi, is your asthma inhaler like bankrupting you
because it's so expensive?
Because I know that's happening to people.
And if you're not a millionaire,
then that is in a terrible situation for you to be in or what other other medications or whatever so
yeah you know yeah medica so exactly i think we should ask all presidential candidates at the
debate like what kind of uh broke person meal they've they eat right like what kind of broke
struggle meal they've had and if they're like what is that i'm like okay never mind yeah they're like what is this they're like, what is that? I'm like, okay, nevermind.
Yeah.
They're like, what is this?
They're like the most creative thing you've ever done with top.
Yeah.
What's tap Raymond?
Oh, what?
Tap ring.
You'll get him out of here.
So, but the idea behind this lessons from the Mueller report presentation is that it's
sort of impeachment light or beginning the impeachment proceedings.
Right.
And like, let's start doing a show here.
Let's start getting people experts out in front to describe what is,
what the Mueller report is.
Cause we can't get Robert Mueller to speak on it.
Right.
Have people who are just as,
just as much experience in the department of justice or being an attorney for
like a federal prosecutor to say,
I've tried many crimes to me.
This is obstruction.
The only difference is it's the president.
So there's weird rules around what we can say about it.
Right.
But if we remove all the labels and just –
if we distill this down to what it is, this is obstruction.
Right.
Or, you know, all the myriad of other things that disturb me in that report.
Yeah.
All right.
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark vs. Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
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And we're back. And guys, I want to talk about kawaii leonard um who's that may i ask he is
apparently the best player in the nba uh it wasn't clear heading into the playoffs but he has
loaded the country of canada onto his back and just dragged them to the promised land.
Yeah.
The promised slowly.
And I'm wondering if this is all part of a viral marketing stunt for men in
black international,
because they do have a campaign where Anthony Davis turns out to be an alien.
Uh,
and I'm,
I'm wondering if this is all a slow roll where like once he's on the podium accepting the award, he'll reveal that he's an alien or something because I don't know.
This is very convoluted.
Yeah, no, go on.
No, no.
But anyways, I just have this one quote that is further evidence that he's definitely an alien.
So this is about his time with the San Antonio Spurs years ago.
While with the Spurs, Kawhi was known for his love of red apples.
One time after practice, everyone decided to go out for a team dinner.
Pops, like, team dinners are legendary.
And he would take them to, like, amazing restaurants and, like, share.
He's, like, one of the best wine minds in America.
Greg Popovich, he's like a Soam?
Yeah, he's like Soam's respect the shit out of him.
Of Greg Popovich?
Yes, Greg Popovich.
Wow, I like his new skills.
Yes, but anyways, at one of these meals,
he takes everybody out after practice for a team dinner.
When it was his turn to order,
Kawhi waved off the waiter meals he takes everybody out after practice for a team dinner uh when it was his turn to order kawai
waved off the waiter and instead pulled out a bag of 12 apples coach popovich asked what he was
doing and kawai simply replied apple time apple time he then ate all 12 apples with a knife and
fork yo like on a plate?
Not even like peeling it or whatever?
Let me fork and knife job this.
I like him.
Apple time?
Apple time.
That's somebody who knows the shit out of themself.
Yes, exactly.
I can pretend I want to participate in this meal
or I can honor apple time.
And this shit is apple time.
Also, he's made a memory.
Like, if I was at a table, because sometimes you don't remember every restaurant meal you've
had.
Yeah, yeah.
You'll remember this one.
Oh, I was there when he brought out apples and he was like, apple time, baby.
It's like, how was your food?
It's like, I don't know.
I just remember apple time, to be honest.
And he loved it.
Do they say what kind of red apples it was?
No, they don't.
This actually came up
this was shared no it wasn't this is just he's a very strange guy we need to show you some clips
of interviews with him uh because he doesn't he doesn't know how to laugh uh he's like has this
bizarre laugh uh but people describe it as he sounds like he has broken ribs he's laughing but like trying not to like
move his body yeah it's it's something else yeah but this guy this anyway sent me down along
it was shared with me uh by one of my friends in a thread my friend was like oh i thought i
liked red apples and i was like oh what's your favorite kind of red apple? Because I'm a big apple fan. And he said Red Delicious was his favorite kind of apple,
which is unacceptable.
Yeah, Red Delicious is not a good...
I would never reach for a Red Delicious on its own.
Yeah.
I mean, I will have the hybrid, the Fuji,
which I know is a descendant of the Red Delicious.
Yeah, Fuji is great.
It's crisp.
So in a way, you're being racist towards apples.
I think that all apples taste brilliant.
Do you really?
No, no.
Come on, honor that take then.
So you think every apple tastes delicious?
Well, okay, let's just do this.
So every apple has a purpose.
Oh, fuck off.
Come on, everyone.
Just get them.
Look, I actually brought you some apples myself.
Yeah.
I did tweet about this, and somebody called me out and was like,
this is, Red Delicious was all I could afford growing up.
And that's fair.
They are cheaper than, like, the Honeycrisp is a good apple
that was apparently engineered by somebody who, like,
tried to engineer the perfect combination of apple traits.
Oh, man, the Mutsu.
Also Jazz, Envy, Fuji, those are all great.
Mutsu.
Mutsu.
Japanese.
That's a good one.
Japanese apple.
Siju.
Fuck.
I think the reason I had this weird take on it
is I actually don't know any differences between apples.
So I know what I like, which is it looks red.
And when you crack it, it proper cracks.
So that is my problem with Red Delicious
I don't know if I've just had a bunch of
they don't crunch that well
they're like kind of mushy
so somebody was saying oh you've just had like some bad batches
of Red Delicious but I feel like they
must have a very short window
of crispness because every time I've
had a Red Delicious they've been like
real mushy yeah it sounds like you're eating a plum
yeah I'm like oh Every time I've had a Red Delicious, they've been like real mushy. Yeah, it sounds like you're eating a plum. Yeah.
I'm like, oh, I'm cracked on that one.
Is there a fruit that you do like enough that you know the difference between the varieties?
No, I don't.
Are you a big fruit eater at all?
No, I love fruit, but I'm never really in one place enough, like geographically speaking.
Right, right, right.
So every country, every place just has different things that I just accept
whatever's in front of me.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's like,
I go,
every time I eat something,
I'm like, yum.
Even if it's kind of crap
because that's the only choice I have.
Right.
You're so blissed out.
I cannot believe it.
So I go,
ooh, yum, yum.
Yum, yum.
That worm tasted really good.
This like,
a couple of months ago,
we had like horrible red wine
at this party
and this woman was like, how can you drink that? And I was like, that's all ago, like this, we had like horrible red wine at this party.
And this woman was like, how can you drink that?
And I was like, that's all we have.
And yeah, right.
Because I was like, I was like, I was drinking it like that.
Oh, and she was like, what is wrong with you?
And she's like, that's all we have.
So I might as well enjoy it.
Right.
And she was like, oh, that's an interesting viewpoint.
Well, I mean, it's true.
That's like everything, right?
You can either accept or resist.
Right.
And resisting your reality in front of you is only going to lead to more displeasure.
I mean, I've always said resistance is futile. Thank you so much, Borg.
Very nice. Mr. Borg Jack.
It's interesting though, because now that I think about it, there are no other fruits that I pay that much attention to. Like bananas are the types that I know are not ripe.
There's plantains and bananas.
Too late.
Yeah.
Too late.
Too late.
Yeah.
But, and I wonder, I wonder if there are other,
like I know there are pears that come in different forms,
but like are there people who are like,
oh, this is not a good banana.
You have to try the-
Bananas I've not heard-
Honeycrisp bananas.
Talk about varietals.
I hear about Bartlett pears and Asian pears and them shits from Harry and David that agents send for gift baskets.
I read a long article about strawberries and the different-
Because they're trying to grow breed strawberries that are pluckable by robotic hands.
breed strawberries that are pluckable by robotic
hands, and so they have to be
a certain type of, in addition to being
shelf-stable, sweet,
big, red, like all the
things that... I like that they're changing the fruit
rather than just making a robot that has
man hands.
Just get some man hands. But apparently
they're very...
I think it was strawberries. It might be a different berry.
A strawberry's not actually a berry.
It's not?
No.
Take that, you bunch of fact freaks.
So apparently, like, this is such a nerdy little loser fact that I have in my head.
But a berry needs to have the seed inside of its sort of coating.
And so strawberries, the seeds are on the outside, while a banana is a berry.
Right.
Because there are the seeds are on the outside, while a banana is a berry. Right, because there are the seeds on the inside. The inside of its coating.
This is like that time that we found out that sushi is a burrito.
Yeah.
What?
It was just somebody tried to do a...
You know the garden strawberry first made?
Brittany.
Brittany?
Oh.
Yes.
Oh, interesting.
You are welcome.
Sacre bleu.
Yeah, sacre bleu. Sacre red. Thatittany? Oh. Yes. Oh, interesting. You are welcome, Sacrebleu. Yeah, Sacrebleu.
Sacre Red.
That's right.
Fuck.
Oh, the evolution of fruits and vegetables, guys.
We can have a whole lot of fun.
Yeah.
You know that carrots used to be purple?
Yeah.
Take that and you'll know.
We haven't even talked about the Columbian Exchange.
Guys, there's so much.
Oh, man.
So, so.
Let's do the fruit and veg podcast.
So much.
Sure.
Also, corn started out with a single kernel on the end of a thing,
and then somebody had to breed it to be shaped like a giant yellow cock.
I like it.
Wait, a corn just used to be one kernel on a tip or something?
You know what would be better?
A dildo made of this.
A dildo just coated on the outside with the kernels.
Can you imagine?
Yeah, how are you going to do that?
I don't know, man.
I'm the idea guy.
You guys figure it out.
That was what science was focused on.
Now we're focused on curing climate change.
But back then they were like, how are we going to make a corn that is coated on the outside of a giant yellow dildo for future generations?
What you technically refer to a berry as, since it's not
a berry, it is an aggregate
accessory fruit.
Oh, I like it. That's actually what I was already
referring to them as even before
you told me that. Oh yeah, I love
most aggregate accessory fruits, AAFs,
but I guess meaning that the fleshy part
is derived not from the plant's
ovaries, but from the receptacle
that holds the ovaries. Each apparent seed on the outside of the fruit is actually one of the the plant's ovaries, but from the receptacle that holds the ovaries.
Each apparent seed on the outside of the fruit is actually one of the ovaries of the flower with a seed inside it.
Oh, you said ovaries three times there, and I liked it.
Yes.
Have you ever seen what cashews look like on a tree?
It looks like a fruit is pooping out the cashew.
Really?
Yeah, it's really weird.
Anyways, let's talk about video games, guys.
I am in no way stalling because I don't know shit about video games.
Let's talk about, we're going to cover one cool game and one WTF game.
Let's start with-
The cool one?
The cool one.
Okay.
The cool one.
Sex with Stalin.
Yes.
Oh, sorry.
No, that's the wtf uh yeah i think we are talking about 12 minutes right dj danil our producer engineer and just
overall game game board enthusiast esport enthusiast influencer esport fucking marv albert
so dj danil's like yo there's this new game because e3 is happening right now it's all the
game developers.
People are rolling out new content and things like that.
And he was like, did you see this trailer for 12 minutes?
I says, no.
He says, he says, he says.
So he says to me, he says, you need to watch this trailer for 12 minutes.
Cut to us watching it.
This game is basically taking like it's a thriller, but it's a Groundhog's day scenario in which you are this couple you are
this man and you are having dinner with your wife and there's this 12 minute memory keeps looping
in which a detective comes to your apartment kicks the door in and beats you to death and then you
start the memory over unless you can figure out what the fuck is going on so you can break this
like groundhog day loop that sounds amazing so everything
it just plays over and over and the trailers i i was like this is like a movie like where is this
this woman's like i got you this and he goes like it's a baby's outfit i know you're pregnant but
i'm just like wait what are you talking about and he's like look this guy's about to come just
it gets all freaky he's like we've lived this before so it's like memento slash every other
weird you know psychological thriller as a video game.
To me, it's so interesting because they're playing with just the form.
We have a ton of first-person shooters, sandbox games, fighting games.
This is sort of like, what if we played out a movie concept?
It's made by Annapurna Interactive, which is basically the gaming arm of Annapurna Pictures.
Where did you get it?
What console is this?
The ad I saw is on Xbox
and I think it'll come on PC as well.
Wonderful.
I mean, look.
I have not played video games in nearly a decade,
but I still love hearing about like really cool concepts,
like storytelling concepts people are doing with games.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And this is one of those that I'm pumped.
Yeah, it's just, again and this is one of those that i'm pumped yeah
it's just again it's one of those conceptual yeah it's just gonna be over our like shoulder
what's that what's that no tell her no fight the cop fight the i'm like dude i've already did
yeah and the dude shows up like right after you wake up right and is it you have like 30 seconds
to figure no no it's like from what it looks like it's all overhead right So it's like you're seeing almost like a blueprint of an apartment like with everything.
But it's all the action is from like an overhead, like God's eye.
Oh, that's exciting.
God view.
Yeah.
And, you know, they have a pretty, you know, like when you think about the films that Annapurna
makes, it's interesting that like they're venture or they've been doing video games,
but I had no idea.
Yeah, I didn't either.
been doing video games, but I had no idea.
Yeah, I didn't either.
Well, speaking of games that get me excited from not necessarily a storytelling perspective in this case, but there is a new game called Sex with Stalin.
And it's a video game where you have sex with Stalin.
Oh, so it's not just a clever name.
No, it's not.
So this is being published on Steam.
And you were explaining to me that's basically the YouTube of video game publishing.
You can put any video game on there in that sense.
Just because it's on there doesn't mean it's the most professional or legitimate thing.
Right, right.
So this might not necessarily be a game that ends up changing the world, but we do have a screen cap where a naked Stalin
is standing in front of a portrait of Stalin,
and he's giving you the bird.
He's flipping you the middle finger.
But the idea is that it's like a time travel game
where you can go back in time and have sex with Stalin.
You can seduce him.
You can try and kill him.
You can try and do various things to
change history. It is
developed by a Steam user named Boobs
Dev, whose other game was called
Boobs Saga, which is
why I am led
to believe that this might not end up being
this might be one of those stories
that's just driven by having a funny
title. Yeah, I mean, it's very
aggressively just called Sex with Stunton but the description of the game is absurd too this is
on the fucking steam page says you being the young time traveler get the opportunity to meet the
greatest dictator in history stalin and what's next it's up to you communicate with stalin and
reveal his most hidden secrets share advices and help the leader to reach worldwide supremacy,
or show that mustache guy what real love is.
What's real love is?
Your choice is capable of changing the future.
Several variants of endings.
Tired of enduring the dictator?
Show him where the hell is.
Hit him in the stomach.
Plug in the electricity to his nipples.
Jump on his back.
The possibility to seduce Stalin.
Several unique authentic locations.
I mean...
That was my first clue.
When I saw that they called advice, advices...
It does read like a sort of an email scam.
It's either a clever reference to Arnold Schwarzenegger
and Pumping Iron saying,
it's not that hard for me to give him the wrong advices.
Advices.
Or this person is just, you know.
Yeah, but now you're going to have sex with Stalin in the video game.
But our writer, J.M. McNabb, was pointing out that this game is coming at an interesting time in Russia
when Stalin is actually rising in popularity.
Like over half the Russian population considers him a, quote, positive figure, according to a recent poll.
And they banned the movie The Death of Stalin.
And they banned the, I guess there was a negative reference to Stalin in the new Hellboy movie.
And they replaced that with Hitler for its Russian release.
Dignity maintained.
You know that Franz did it with the book Animal Farm.
The pig is called Napoleon.
And it's illegal to name a pig Napoleon in France.
Really?
Yeah, so they changed it to Caesar.
Just in the book, yeah.
Is it still illegal to name a pig Napoleon?
If you do that in France, my dear friend, I will tell my people.
I'm sorry. Please don't.
But I don't know if it's still a problem.
Like, if I went to France
and I saw a pig named Napoleon, and it had
a little hat, I'd be very pleased.
I mean, trusted British outlet,
The Sun, confirms this,
so I'm sure it must be the right thing.
Oh, well, then I don't know if it's true anymore.
But they're saying, basically that like Stalin's popularity,
this is the first time that he's seen a rise in popularity since he died in 1953.
Oh, if only he knew now.
I know.
Would he be so mean?
What's your favorite dictator, guys?
Oh, God.
Oh, Pol Pot.
Pol Pot's a good one.
Huge fan.
Huge fan.
Oh, my God.
I went to the Killing Fields.
That was a hardcore day out in Cambodia. My God's a good one. Huge fan. Huge fan. Oh my God, I went to the Killing Fields. That was a hardcore
day out in Cambodia.
My God.
I'm sure.
I was like,
I was all excited
to like learn about,
you know,
culture.
And I had like the tour guide
like headphones on
so I could learn.
Oh, right, right, right.
Man,
I was crying all day.
That's a heavy,
that's a heavy historical.
That's a heavy genocide
that people forget about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What's funny though, that stat you talk about how popular he is.
Like, the other part is that only 5% of those people who were like, yeah, I think he's positive.
Only five of them were like, yeah, I would live under his rule.
Right.
Everybody else was like, nah.
Positive to a point.
I mean, I look at him positively.
I like him for other people.
Oh, we just got breaking news, Jack.
What's that?
DJ Daniel just held up a sign through the window.
The Kawhi Apple story is fake.
Oh, really?
Yes.
For the win, the subsection of USA Today,
making up fake stories about Kawhi Leonard
is NBA Twitter's favorite new exercise.
Oh, no.
Shit.
But what does it represent?
Maybe the story is fake fake but the moment is real
it's the same thing like when we were talking two weeks ago about the keanu reeves being a lonely
guy story which is also fake but i was like it still remains the discussion that is born out of
that story still remains yes and look what we talked about we learned about berries not strawberries
not being berries i found out that i was dying to talk about apple variants. Yeah.
So we all learned a little bit about ourselves.
But also it seems like
one of those things
that I would believe.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I don't know enough about
like what he does
off the court that much
where I would be like
There's a little bit
of a Jesus metaphor to it as well.
You know he came to a meal
and he brought out
12 apples for his pals
and then he ate them all.
Right.
And it's like
here's the fruit of knowledge
and truth and the evil. Eat it. And they mind i hate him again uh anyways uh but yeah back
to stalin there's a bunch of uh stalin statues that have gone up in uh russia over the past
couple years and there is even a housing complex uh called st Stalin House that is being planned as a new real estate development in a city where the enemies of the Soviet people were exiled by Stalin.
And that's where the Stalin House is being built?
Yes.
Weird flex, but okay.
Yeah.
I mean, are they just trying to, just sort of this whole attempt at revisionist history is just to be like, see, it's chill when people are crushing you.
Putin being like respecting
that authoritarian style a little bit.
I could see that. He's trying to normalize
what Stalin did. And I mean, they seem to be cool
with Putin. Jesus, Stalin house?
That's an absurd. That's a real estate development
where exiled people were sent to.
Yep.
Guten Abend and welcome to Hitler bungalows.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
The hottest lofts in Berlin.
Ah, shit.
I bet that's going to happen
now that I think about it.
Well, shit, guys.
We've told you fake stories.
We've told you real stories.
Sorry about the kawaii stuff.
I need to do my fact-checking better next time.
Well, this is what happens, you know? It was live fact-checking.
But here's the deal. You were honest
in live. Don't beat yourself up, man.
We got some good shit out of there.
We learned that bananas are berries.
That's right.
Which we all need. We all need that.
We all need the truth. And I found out Greg Popovich
is a world-renowned, a world-respected
wine expert.
That is true.
Well, Eric, it's been a pleasure having you.
Where can people find you?
Obviously, all the social medias.
I did a comedy album last year called Alien of Extraordinary Ability, which is available on all the platforms.
And you can tell I've got anxiety in that album.
I'm just hypermanic in that album. I'm just hypermanic in that way. And if you're going to the Edinburgh Festival this year in Scotland,
in August,
I am doing a show
which I'd love
for you to come to.
Yeah.
Damn, we got a lot.
I mean, Jamie Loftus
is going to be out there.
You'll be out there.
Zeitgang.
Hey, yo, UK Zeitgang.
Pull up.
You know,
come see these shows.
And is there a tweet
you've been enjoying?
Well, actually,
you know what?
I'll do a shout out to a tweet by Daniel been enjoying uh i thought actually you know i'll do a shout
out to a tweet uh by daniel tomko says miles gray next time eric lambert's on daily zeitgeist you
should play it you should play the baseline junkie song uh and i don't i don't know if you are going
to play it or not but i thought i'd shout him out oh i'll give him a little shout just say hello to
him okay well what is baselineies? Just a music video
that I did with Dizzy Rascal
who is a rapper from the UK.
And in it,
I play like his bitch.
And, you know,
I've got a very expressive face.
I'm quite a scary looking
white dude next to him
just trying to push drugs
onto kids.
Pretty fun.
It's a fun video.
Oh, dope.
Okay.
Miles, where can people find you
oh i guess you could find me on twitter and instagram at jambas of gray yeah or you can
catch me at this jamba juice or i mean sorry jamba respect respect well in 2020 all right
uh yes i don't know 2022 nice try nice try motherfucker uh is there a tweet you've been Nice try. Nice try, motherfucker.
Is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Oh, gosh.
Yes.
This is from Dan White.
At Dan White.
Hitting up the new Chernobyl pop-up bar with the boys tonight.
Just felt like a really thing that would happen.
Right.
Yeah.
It's happening, man.
It's all happening.
Poorly Drawn Turtle at KnowTheOtherJohn tweeted,
How much are these apples?
Those apples are $72 for $3.
I see.
And how much are these dried apple chips?
The dried apple chips are $68 a pound.
And, you know, apples are out here in the zeitgeist right now, guys.
Also, TheDad at TheDad tweeted,
If eating alone is so sad, then why did the waitress at Denny's just call me
a party of one? And I
respect that as a dad.
It makes dad jokes. Oh, I like that. That's a nice
way to look at it. There you go. Party of one.
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What do you think it should
be, Eric?
No, I mean, what do you think? What are we thinking?
Oh, I have no, like, I'm not very
I like to learn about music. Oh, I was going to do you think? What are we thinking? Oh, I have no, like, I'm not very, I like to learn about music.
Oh, I was going to shout out your Dizzy Rascal track.
Oh, do it.
But he should do it.
You have the honor.
In honor of that tweet, we can only go out on Dizzy Rascal, Faceline Junkie.
Please watch the video.
All right.
Please support Eric.
Yeah, yeah.
Please watch his face.
Because he says it will scare you.
You think it will scare you? No, I just have Please watch his face. Because he says it will scare you. You think it will scare you?
No, but I just have a very expressive face.
Very large gums.
Very wide eyes.
The scariest thing of all, large gums.
In 2009, there was...
Apologies for the naughty word that's about to come up.
But in 2009, there was so much abuse about my face online
that if you typed an ugly man on Google,
I was on page two.
Oh, I remember you saying that.
So, uh,
it doesn't cause me pain anymore, but like,
oh my god, in 2009?
I didn't realize the ripple effect of like
how it destroyed my self-worth.
But I like it.
I like that I have this sort of very expressive
face.
That only you could do.
And that's your purpose.
To be expressive. i appreciate that yeah we're all expressing ourselves the daily zeitgeist is a production of
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