The Daily Zeitgeist - Black Out Rage GalTrend 2/24: BORG, Cocaine Bear, Succession, Deborah Ali-Williams, Creed 3, About My Father
Episode Date: February 25, 2023In this edition of Black Out Rage GalTrend, Jack and super producer Justin discuss BORGing, Ray Liota's final performace in 'Cocaine Bear', the final season of 'Succession', the magic of Deborah Ali-W...illiams' busy work, the reviews of 'Creed 3', and Robert De Niro's new film 'About My Father'!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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hello the internet and welcome to this episode of the borg or blackout rage gal trend um which
i'm told that i am late to by super producer becca i'm Jack O'Brien and I'm thrilled to be joined by
super producer Justin Connor!
Hey!
I'm back. Here we are.
Listen to those teeth.
Listen to them.
Listen to how straight and perfect they are.
That is just such a weird
thing that somebody
said about you. Your appearance
last time was that for some reason
you gave them the impression that you have perfect teeth yeah i like it though yeah i mean
although comments have been weird but like fun like they've been uplifting weirdly i mean even
being called a stoned middle schooler like i felt you know that that's a fun vibe i think that's a
whole vibe yeah that's great man that's a career right there yeah think. That's a whole vibe. Yeah. That's great, man. That's a career right there.
Yeah.
A guy who comes off as stoned middle schooler.
Truly.
I mean, yeah.
I have a niche for myself.
Hey, speaking of stoned young people, they've come up, they've done it again, folks.
Is stoned something?
I feel like I heard somebody refer to being stoned as being drunk in the 70s.
Yeah, I think it's changed over time.
Let's have a drink and be stoned.
What?
Yeah, it's all cyclical.
It's all cyclical, Jack.
I mean, even speaking of this blackout rage gallon thing,
we were talking about it a little bit before the record.
It does feel a little bit like Four Loko because I came up um in in like that was my early college experience was for loco was going crazy in
the streets and uh this being caffeinated it's it scares me i've i have be caffeinated i mean it can
be well i mean that's what i'm saying it's i feel like they're going extra hard with it because of
the name like the blackout
rage thing.
You have like a whole title to live up to.
And, uh, it sounds like safe, but it also sounds like it could be dangerous at the same
time.
Blackout rage, Gallon.
Um, the pitch is that, are you tired of like going to parties and having to drink out of
their dirty glasses, risk frat boy date rapist putting
something in your drink well now you no longer have to worry about that thanks to milk gallons
just like the thing that you used to buy milk in uh people still do that right like that's what
still comes in um well now you put half water, half vodka.
I would recommend more water than vodka,
even if I had to give you a recommendation, folks.
And then a mixer of your choice,
like, you know, a little,
I think people were recommending some electrolytes
so that you're avoiding a hangover yeah how what's
the time management on this thing are we trying to drink this all in one go like i don't is this
happening this is all you're drinking all night and you're carrying it around like as a yeah like
it's your purse for the night. You just have this in hand.
It's not like an accoutrement to more like drinks that you are partaking in.
I hope not.
I think, you know, the way that I drank, it would have been, and I would have ended up waking up in backyards of various places.
That was the problem with Four Local.
I swear to God, like my first time drinking Four Local, I wound up in the backyard of a pool of someone I didn't know. I was just punching the side of their pool and someone had to wrangle me away from that shit. Like, yeah, that's...
You're inside a pool? There's water in it?
There's no water in it.
Oh, okay.
I forgot to mention that. It was an empty pool. Yes, it was an empty pool.
Not to mention that it was an empty pool.
Yes, there was an empty pool.
Nice.
Yeah, so I don't know.
Binge drinking is obviously very popular in college.
I wish I had done less of it in my college days.
But this seems like a practical way to go about doing it. I just feel like blackout rage was not the thing I was chasing when I was drinking.
I was hoping to have more of a mellow time.
So people who are like, blackout rage, Galen.
Even when I was a mess, that was not the type of mess that I was seeking.
No, I wasn't proud to be punching a pool.
That wasn't my best hour.
So I don't think, just be careful out there, kids.
If you're trying this, you know,
I understand some of this comes from a place of safety of,
you know, just not having anyone drug you with any substances.
That's, I'm all here for that.
But you can do that with like a little, with a water bottle.
You don't need a whole gallon, you know, I don't know.
Yeah, you could exactly you could you could just have a poland springs bottle with like a splash
of vodka pour some salt in there since that's basically what electrolytes are and have yourself
a night where you go pee a lot we would just go to 7-elevenven and get the Slurpees and then just throw some vodka in that
and call it a night.
You could do that.
The AV Club is counting down posthumous performances
of late movie stars in honor of Ray Liotta's final performance.
I don't know if it's necessarily his final final,
but Ray Liotta does play a kingpin boss crime boss in cocaine bear
and he did pass away at the really young age of 67 within the last year um tragic very tragic
the av club article is suggesting to me that the av club has started writing their articles with chat GPT is not great, man. It is
a bad, they have done a bad job. I w I was assuming they would have, did you see triangle
of sadness? I haven't, I was fascinated by the trailer and the message it's trying to send. I
haven't had time to see it yet. The lead actress in that who like plays a young influencer and she's,
uh,
was playing younger than she is.
She was 32,
but she died in the last year after triangle of sadness came out,
which is wild.
They don't mention that.
They just mentioned like very cursory.
Like if you just did a Google search and like,
and only wrote down the names you had heard of that that seems to be what
they've done like to the point that i went to the comment section of the ab club and i was like
are people saying something about this in the very first comment was like so like where did
people go after they left the ab club because this is bad right like everyone was like yep
yeah it's really bad uh vulture's still doing it. And yeah.
So I don't know,
but I mean,
the onion still has their hits.
So I think there's just a different,
I think they fired a bunch of people and it's not good.
Yeah.
This article isn't,
well,
you can tell this was written by AI because this article isn't for anyone.
Like you reading this,
you're not going to get anything.
You're like,
huh? I'm glad i
read this and it was worth my time it's literally just dry facts of people you mostly some you've
heard of some you might recognize the face it's not a compelling thing to read no no it is not
but um people seem to be fucking with uh cocaine bear it dropped i believe last night
midnight previews and uh so far i've heard i've heard good things from a couple people i know
who've seen it um the reviews are not good which i think i would have been a little concerned if
they were it seems like it is as advertised, which is just a fun time.
And that's what I'm looking for.
A fun B movie,
hyper-violent shit show.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh,
succession is ending after this season,
which not great news.
Uh,
our thoughts are with super producer on a hose.
Yeah.
In this difficult time,
please keep her in your thoughts and prayers.
The session is just devastating her at this moment.
It's yeah.
The interview is like with the guys like we've known and it just feels good to get it out there and let everybody know that it's happening.
He's like, we could have taken it in like a fun, weird direction or we could have given it a good ending.
And we've decided to give it a good
ending well weirdly enough i think that might compel me to watch it i have not seen this show
yet i guess i i hadn't i hadn't necessarily like been off-put by it i just hadn't put it in my
plans as a priority necessarily but now that i know like i can catch up to the ending pretty quickly it's like a consumable
thing I might compel me to watch it a little bit more um I I like a tight story but I also
am a person who like I will hang on to a fandom and continue to like watch something well past
the point that it's still good and still cape for it so I can understand the especially with
when you have a cast
that works this well together.
Like, again, I haven't seen the show,
but I've seen it weirdly enough,
like plenty of interviews with the cast.
They're fantastic together.
They're so funny.
And I might want to check this out now
that I know it can, you know,
go down in four seasons.
Yeah.
As far as shows about rich whites,
it's a pretty good one.
I will say the finale of the last season was the point at which I had the thought,
oh, this show needs to end, that it seems like it's hitting a similar rhythm over and over every time.
So it feels like this is the right decision.
So shout out to them for making it.
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Deborah Alley
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And we're back.
And Super Producer Ana Hosnier brought to our attention
a viral TikTok star
Debra Alley-Williams,
the president at all people's funeral
home, and
the thing that she does
that she's kind of going viral for is
doing things
without doing anything seems
to be the thing.
If you've ever, if somebody's
just look busy at your desk without doing
anything like that seems to be i i came up in restaurants in my early college trying to make
some extra money situation and like if you got time to lean you got time to clean like mentality
that kind of just forced you to do busy work but not actually be busy and i think i get it
like this is like a visual asmr in the sense that you're someone is clearly doing this with intent
but there's nothing actually happening which is like a fascinating like you know you can break
that down for for years i think trying to understand why something like this is so yeah viral right now
yeah there's like a a falseness to it a self-consciousness to it uh where it's like
you know you're being watched and so you're doing the gesture of busyness and doing things
so like what one of the videos she's going around like preparing for preparing a funeral for people to enter
and she
picks up and puts down
a drape,
a blue
velvety draping thing that is on the
ground and doesn't move it at all.
It doesn't change anything about it.
She was like a giant
lamp, literally half an inch over just to make it perfect.
I love it.
Yeah, I do too.
It's great.
It reminds me of, did you watch the rehearsal?
The Nathan Fielder show?
Yes.
Yes, I did.
So there's one part where they have people like actors studying people with boring jobs
and like trying to recreate them.
And so like,
there's like an actor doing the work of working at a deli and there's like
real basic gestures and everyone's like,
yeah,
it kind of feels like that where it's like just putting on the performance of
a job that really doesn't need to be done or like that you
don't fully understand what's happening yeah i think there's an appeal to that like again the
idea of like humor and comedy it kind of shifted when i was you know especially in the internet
age when like youtube videos and vines and stuff were coming out and just the idea of of random
um i guess is like a as a point of hilarity became i think more present in the social
consciousness and it's kind of this this is so it is very random but i i understand it like i mean
a real you know shout out to the camera person just being there and filming all of this stuff
for i mean what's a really good point apparently the artist is who was like this shit is fascinating
yeah and you you kind of get that with the intention of the of the camera angles like i
truly think if if a film uh teacher wanted to bring this into their class and be like why is
this so popular like let's break this down let's truly understand why this is happening i think
it'd be fascinating yeah super disappointed so she has background actor energy like just when they're
like all right so like look busy like you you are at the table the other booth in the diner from
seinfeld like yeah do do the act of sitting at a diner very interesting anyways uh the funeral home is in houston if you
want to go uh watch a live performance of uh this no i actually don't don't recommend that
anyways um creed 3 dropping soon the critical embargo is over this is just a a sad thing about
me is i get excited when a critical embargo is over
and we start to see what the critics are saying
about a film.
You'd rather see the box office than the critics.
I like to see the box office. I like to see
the critics. I like to see everything about
the movie, the trailer,
except the movie. I mean, I also
like to see the movie, but I will
be satisfied by watching the
other things happen around the movie.
Yeah, the discourse. Yeah, absolutely.
This is exciting. Michael B. Jordan,
I don't know if it's his directorial debut,
but it's certainly the biggest
movie that he's directed, and
people seem to think he's got
it. The kid's got it.
It's interesting. He's a very good
actor, but he's very much
leading man, handsome.
It's always interesting to me which actors make good directors.
Yeah, yeah.
It takes a tremendous amount of ego, but also a tremendous amount of collaboration.
And having those things at the forefront of your mind at the same time, it's hard to embody that in one person.
So whoever can pull that off, congrats. i'm excited to see this movie it looks good i
didn't see the second creed i don't think i'm going to i don't think anybody has i think yeah
nobody saw no i've definitely heard from people who are like oh you'll love it but it's more like
sports jockey people tend to like it yeah the type of people who might like
the new transformers movie you know yeah you were saying that it's directed by the creed 2
directed by the person who directs the new transformers movie um gorilla robot see if
they had put a gorilla robot in creed 2 i might have checked it out but yeah that's who he should
have been fighting instead of ivan drago so yeah um and there's also a new Robert De Niro movie about my father uh I would
say that this is actually pitched as a Sebastian Maniscalco movie but it does seem to be I think
this is going to be the Sebastian Maniscalco star making film where it's like italians am i right that seems to be i think
that is the uh tagline about my father colon italians am i right i'm not familiar with
sebastian's work so what was he in uh he's a stand-up comedian he posted the vmas one time um which was very strange because he's like he's a
guy who like makes jokes about his mom's fried zucchini and his like wife doing shopping and
stuff like that like just like real sounds charming yeah yeah like uh italian american tim allen type vibes without the like right
wingedness but they put him on the vmas one time which is just one of the strangest miscastings of
a host of all time what year did he do that it's like five years ago yeah four or five years ago
yeah yeah he opens his hosting thing coming out there's like a bunch
of smoke because that's just like an effect a stage effect and he said whoa was my mom burning
her fried zucchini backstage and they're just quiet what the confusion i love in the room
i love it was just yeah yeah that's not the right energy,
but I don't think that's...
I enjoy it.
I like the...
If they're not going to hire...
Because award shows are never funny.
You should hire someone who doesn't fit
and I'm actually probably going to watch it more.
Yeah, definitely.
All right.
Well, Justin, where can people find you, follow you?
You can find me at jcondesmith on Instagram and Instagram only.
That's at J-C-O-N-T-H-E-S-M-I-T-H.
Yeah, he doesn't exist anywhere else.
He's an Instagram artificial intelligence.
Chat GPT amalgamation only existing on Instagram.
All right.
Well, that's going to do it until Monday morning when we're back with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you on Monday. Bye.
Bye.
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There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
That's where we come in.
Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
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If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on
the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films
and Shekinah Church. And we're the host
of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the
unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese.
Every great player needs a foil.
I know I'll go down in history.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Listen to the making of a rivalry,ry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese
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