The Daily Zeitgeist - Booing Racists Works? Death By Hot Dog Cannon 6.21.18

Episode Date: June 22, 2018

In episode 174, Jack and Miles are joined by Couples Therapy Podcast host Andy Beckerman to discuss the White Civil Rights Rally in DC, racists getting their karma, Stephen Miller being an actual evil... monster, the executive order Trump signed not really fixing anything, an update on Scott Pruitt shenanigans, the suspect in XXXTentacion’s shooting being arrested, cultural recommendations, a world cupdate, a Philly Phanatics fan being shot in the face with a hot dog gun, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 And so I wake in the morning and I step outside and I take a deep breath and I get real high and I scream at the top of my lungs, I'm Jack O'Brien. That is courtesy of Travis Stock still. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Whoa, we're co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Whoa! We're half-graving! Whoa! Living on a grail!
Starting point is 00:02:53 Take Miles' hand! We'll make it, I swear! Whoa! Living on a grail! Living on a grail! Deceptive Cadence. Okay, so that was courtesy of at Sir Brentsworth. Shout out to you, my man, because I'm just trying to scream it out.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Just getting all my energy out. And our guest just walked out of the room. Yeah. Well, so I guess we'll call it Jamie Loftus. Also, Jack, your singing voice, really, that was, you did something new there. Oh, did I? I brought it. You brought it.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I heard some nice tone in there. I've always been inspired by the four non-blondes. I mean, yeah, Linda Perry. Uh-huh. She's the best. We are thrilled to have in our third seat today, he is a hilarious comedy writer, comedian, and podcast host of a show called Oh Beginnings, not Oh Just Beginnings, which is a long name. No, it's just called Beginnings.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And the soon-to-launch Couples Therapy podcast, which he co-hosts with his hilarious fiancee, Naomi Perrigan, who you heard a couple days ago. Yep. He is Andy Beckerman. Hey! Hey, man! You might know me from the harmony on the first note
Starting point is 00:04:07 of Miles singing. See, I had to, you know, I was... And just so you know, we were all standing back-to-back singing into the microphone. Real Bruce Springsteen-like. Yeah, yeah. And Super Producer Nick Stumpf was just hitting the bell on the cymbal the whole time. Andy,
Starting point is 00:04:23 it's a pleasure to have you, man. Hey, it's a pleasure to be here. Your show is so great. We're going to do an episode where you and Naomi come on right when we're about to launch and we can dig into it more. Yeah, let's do that. Just a big fan. If anybody is in the Los Angeles area, when a couples therapy is going on, it's the best live show I have seen in my time out here in this city. Oh, that's kind of you.
Starting point is 00:04:47 And before we get into more about you, my friend, we like to take our listeners through what we're going to cover so they know what they're in for. Ooh, foreshadowing. Yeah. We're going to talk about the upcoming white civil rights rally. It's about time you ask me. Come in D.C, August 12th, we're going to talk about some good news about white supremacists
Starting point is 00:05:11 and how they just keep getting served. We're going to talk about served at restaurants and by people at restaurants with them. We're going to talk about a prudent update, update on the summer of Scott. We're going to talk about a prudent update, update on the summer of Scott. We're going to talk about just the latest goings on in the clusterfuck of a reaction to the border mess and families being separated. We're going to talk about the story behind that G7 photo, which is even dumber than you probably imagined. And you're probably imagining something very dumb.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Wait, you mean the photo that has like Merkel? even dumber than you probably imagined. And you're probably imagining something very dumb. Wait, you mean the photo that has like Merkel? Yeah, Merkel leaning over and Trump sitting like a child. There's a backstory to that? Yeah, there's a, well, somebody explained what happened before and immediately after that picture. And that's wonderful. We're going to talk about the latest. Trump shit himself? Yes. Surprisingly, that is not what, I think whoever the anonymous sources
Starting point is 00:06:07 behind this story was just taking that as a granted. They were like, well, you know, he's wearing diapers and just pooped and just did a boom boom.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I mean, he does have a diseased, rotted mind. So I'm assuming control of his bowels is part and parcel of that. And all he eats is just McDonald's
Starting point is 00:06:24 without the buns. So that's probably constip eats is just McDonald's without the buns. So that's probably constipated. So that's why I go. Yeah. He hasn't shit in weeks. We're going to talk about the latest. There was an arrest
Starting point is 00:06:34 in the murder of XXXTentacion. We're going to talk about just the fact that the NBA drafts tonight and do some cultural recommendations. And finally,
Starting point is 00:06:44 we're going to go out with a story, another shooting that happened in Philadelphia. This one, much funnier than any of the shootings we've talked about before on the show. Non-fatal shooting. Non-fatal shooting. And not a problematic shooting. Yes. So don't get worried. But first off, Andy- So someone shot Stephen Miller? But Andy, first of all, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? This is just from the last couple of days.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Okay, that's perfect. I'm just setting it up. Okay. Yola Tango, snowman, t-shirt. Yola Tango, snowman, t-shirt. Yola Tango, snowman, t-shirt. Isn't that a band? Yola Tango, wonderful band.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Love them. One of my favorites. Yeah. I've seen them the most times probably of all the bands I've seen. And I've been looking up t-shirt designs because I want to make t-shirts. Ah. Oh. Love merch.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was an indie rock band when I was in college and we never made any merch. We just made... All we did was make music. Were you even in a band at that point? Play live shows. Where's your merch, man? And go to CMJ and make albums.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Right. But no, T-shirts. I've always wanted to make T-shirts, and we're making Couples Therapy T-shirts. And so I was looking up designs, and I was looking up some of my favorite shirts. I used to have a Yola Tango. I think it was from one of their Japanese tours, one of their tours of Japan. And I used to have it, and I have no idea what happened to it. So I was like, oh, well, you know, we live in a time where you can buy anything online.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Of course you can. I have found no evidence that this t-shirt existed online. Come on, Yola Tango fans. Get out there. Get on eBay. I think it has like a snowman on it and it has kanji. I'm not sure what the... You know what?
Starting point is 00:08:23 I'm going to hook you up. I'll Google it in Japanese. And then maybe that's... We can harness the power of Japanese Google using Japanese characters. And then maybe that will render a photo. What if, though, here's the thing that I thought. What if this is one of the Berenstain, Berenstain...
Starting point is 00:08:39 Oh, right. ...kinds of things. And I just imagined that I had this T-shirt. We were just talking about this yesterday. And I never really did. Yeah. And it doesn't exist. That would be crazy that I had this t-shirt. We were just talking about this yesterday. And I never really did. Yeah. And it doesn't exist. That would be crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:08:48 That'd be awesome. Like, I'd be worried about your mental health. Yeah, but, you know, but more power to you. I'm getting older. It could happen. Yeah, no. We all have weird memories. We were talking about people having just crazy lapses of memory.
Starting point is 00:08:58 But I feel like we remember, like, you know, I remember band shirts that I bought. Yeah. You know what I mean? Or that I had because I really liked them, you know, I remember band shirts that I bought. Yeah. You know what I mean? Or that I had because I really liked them. You know? There has to be some photo of me wearing it from when I was in college. We'll get to the bottom of this. We'll get Starley Kine on this.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Yeah. That should be the next season. Mystery show. Yo, what's up? Did this shirt ever happen? That was a great and impossibly expensive podcast, the mystery show. Yeah, by the time. I'm going to go fly to Texas to try and track down this one belt buckle.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Like, I'm going to buy a $2,000 Britney Spears ticket. Yes. I have an old Patrick Ewing t-shirt. It's the thing I'm most sad that I lost. I got it for free at a Knicks game when I was seven years old. I wore it until I was, like, in my 20s. It used to, like, it used to drape down over my knees. And you grew into it.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And I grew into it. And like it was like super, super tight, but it was so soft that it didn't matter. And if anybody has that, shout out to me. I mean, you're just any shirt with Patrick Ewing on it? No, no, no, no. Just my shirt. I could make you a shirt with Patrick Ewing on it. I want my shirt.
Starting point is 00:10:02 How much would you pay for that shirt? Oh, in the hundreds. All right, Andy, let's talk about this. Is that true? Yeah, man. That specific shirt from when I was seven. No, I don't know. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Now, how much money do you make? Right now. Let's talk about it. What's your net worth? No, just look on Celeb Net Worth or Second Rate Celebrity Network. That thing is insane. We looked up Naomi and it's something like $15 million. Yeah, it's...
Starting point is 00:10:26 We've never seen it. I was still checking my bank account before I went and bought Trader Joe's groceries a couple months ago. So we're obviously... She's holding out on you, man, clearly. And you just described a scene where you were fighting ants off in your bathroom as a daily problem. So I don't think the 15 mil is accurate. Yeah. Andy, what is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Overrated. Now, guys, I might get a lot of heat for this. Okay. All right. You probably will. I came up with a trifecta that is under an umbrella of a concept. So the trifecta is New York Times, The New Yorker, NPR. Under the trifecta of middle-brow intellectualism.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Okay. Okay. Okay. Love low-brow jokes. Okay. I love like real intellectual stuff. Right. Love reading your Heideggers and your Hegel's.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yeah. And your Simone de Beauvoir's. Just incomprehensible. But like, so I thought of this because i was listening to uh the new yorker podcast the other day um hannah gadsby was on okay and hannah gadsby's show was amazing i don't really even have words for it because it was comedy but it was also like probably one of the most emotionally heart-wrenching shows i've seen yeah um she's a comedian right yeah she's an australian comedian and she did a show i don't
Starting point is 00:11:46 want to spoil it i saw the live show i haven't seen the it just came out on netflix yeah i saw the trailer and i got emotional i was like i'm gonna save this for when i have more time to cry incredible and i haven't seen the netflix one yet but i assume it's the same kind of thing and they were interviewing her on this podcast and they were just talking about like so incidentally in the show there is a she discusses like a philosophy of comedy like she's talking about like you build tension and then you surprise them to like to cut the tension right and that's and that's just like basically one theory of comedy there's also lots of others but she is talking about that specifically and she does that not because she's necessarily interested in talking about the theory of comedy on stage, but she uses that to set up other things in the show.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Right. any of that stuff. But like the NPR person or the New Yorker person. David Remnick. Who was the one that wrote that terrible Incredibles 2 review that was just like. Anthony Lane. Yeah, that was just like, man, when I'm having sex with my wife, all I can think of is Mrs. Incredible. Oh, right. Yeah. That was a New Yorker review? There was something, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 There was like film critic couldn't hide his boner while talking about the headlines I read on like Reductress or something. Yeah. So, but like they were focusing on that, on that part of it as if that was like the main understanding of how comedy works. Like that's the only way to understand comedy. Yeah. kind of like middle brow pretension just really like gets at my core like really annoys me because it's not a real thorough understanding of like any kind of uh intellectual topic right and yet uh it suffices for like dinner parties for like people who don't really right know much yes i
Starting point is 00:13:39 totally agree the the new yorker podcast sucks uh david remnick is not a good podcast host. He must be a good editor because he's been the editor of the New Yorker magazine for many of its good years. I still think as a magazine, like they do some things like better than anybody else does. Sure, isn't Cy Hirsch right for them? Yeah, he does. And just in terms of in-depth investigative journalism, they do that really well. But I agree, their podcast sucks and it's part of this npr sort of conglomeration of podcasts that i agree it's like they get
Starting point is 00:14:14 they yeah i don't know exactly it's like they boil down a intellectual idea into like the dumbest form of it and then just like kind of spit it out for the sake of it being, like making people who carry tote bags feel smart. But then use it as like a badge of honor. Like use that kind of thing to like demean, like not really demean other people or to put other people down, but like, oh, I'm smarter than you.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Like that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the kind of like, it's like Maggie Haberman's kind of like politeness like maggie haberman's kind of like uh politeness politics yeah they're all fucking well i mean the new york times even this week they they bowed to the white house and like because stephen miller was going to be on the daily podcast and they asked specifically to not use the audio of his sort of like unfiltered like rants on immigration uh and they were like oh okay and they didn't do that and then they just
Starting point is 00:15:05 they posted some weird op-ed today about like the contagion of incivility that is like so just odd of this like you know both sides are really like really falling down like by the wayside now we don't know what to do i don't know where they i don't know where they are anymore to be fair when they did play the audio the first time all all animals within a 10 meter radius died. Committed suicide. Committed violent suicide. I think it's kind of like a ring type. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:15:33 The ring type thing. If you hear it, then you get a phone call that says seven days. I'm going to defend the New York Times here. Okay. Cool. Oh, hashtag. Cool stance, Jack. The paper of the hashtag resistance.
Starting point is 00:15:44 Right. No, just that reporting is a like with maggie haberman she's always thinking about like she has hundreds of anonymous sources who she has to worry about and she has gotten scoops that nobody else was going to get because she does these things that look really shitty when she does them and the with the stephen miller audio i mean they still came on and said exactly what he said so but i think these things that look really shitty when she does them. And with the Stephen Miller audio, I mean, they still came on and said exactly what he said. But I think there was more, wasn't there? I don't think they just took anything that he said out of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:16:16 I just think that they just couldn't use the actual audio. Part of it. But I want to hear the clicking of his gross little fangs. Right, right. His little slime covered. But also Haberman, she was pretty complicit in all the weird anti-Hillary writing that was pretty unnecessary. Yeah, no, I agree. They totally fucked up the 2016 campaign, as did all the journalism.
Starting point is 00:16:37 But I get it. Because part of being a journalism, you've got to get scummy people to trust you, so you've got to kind of play the parts. And we're at a point where nobody's paying for journalism anymore so it's uh like we're just all taking what we can get from the five people who are still paying for journalism so hey look there's the intercept there's pro publica yeah no there's democracy now there's plenty of places that are doing fantastic journalism. Yeah. No, there are, but... That aren't, you know, don't have super ideological blinkers on.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Right. Yeah. So, New York Times, I just put you on blast. Go fuck yourself, New York Times. I think that was an actual piece on the Daily Beast or something, too. It was like, oh, go fuck right off. New York Times is something with the headline. Andy, what's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:17:28 Okay. Thought about this. The New York Post. All Murdoch. The Inquirer. Yeah. So I was like, I could say something that makes me look cool.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Yeah. Right? There's bands that I love that I don't think are getting enough attention. There's Samus, wonderful rapper. There's this band Crying from New York that I think is great. They're this chiptunes prog band. But you're not going to say any of that.
Starting point is 00:17:55 I thought the documentaries of Adam Curtis make me sound... I genuinely love his documentaries, but also like, oh, he's smart. Stanley Elkin's books. Okay. Again, Andy is cool. Andy is smart. Yes. And in a way, you're already accomplishing that by even describing these out loud now.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Right. Huh. So I thought, but here's the thing. I thought I would go with something that hit both those. Okay. Both shows Andy is cool and smart. And that is the Amazon show, Bosh. Bosh.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Is that good? No., Bosh. Bosh. Is that good? No. I see you both looking confused. Actually, here's the thing. It is genuinely good. I genuinely enjoy it. It is not fantastic. I don't think it's in the annals of the best TV show out there.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Right, sure, sure, sure. But I think it is very well done. It scratches a particular itch because we've seen so many cop shows at this point. First of all, I think the acting is very good. I think Titus Welliver, is that his name? I think he's – He was on Lost, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:52 He was also on Deadwood. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I think he's genuinely good. I think everyone around him on that show is very good. But we've seen so many cop procedurals that we know how an investigation should actually go. And most ignore that. Most ignore the procedural part. The actual
Starting point is 00:19:10 real procedural part. But Bosch follows it almost, I would assume, to the letter of the actual law. And that scratches a particular itch. I like things that are grounded. Because if you ground something, then it gives you license to do weirder or more fun
Starting point is 00:19:27 things later on if like you you who as close to reality as possible then it gives you license to do some fun things right right and most shows ignore that yeah they just start off in fun town yeah like i was watching diet land and it's already in cuckoo town from like moment one right and it lost me right i mean i i may not be the audience for that show in the first place, but, uh, about a woman who is, gets entangled.
Starting point is 00:19:52 She's a writer and a baker and she is writing. She answers the letters for like a Vogue or glamor type magazine for the editor. Oh, and she's also a baker on the side and then it gets tangled in some conspiracy. I'm probably not the audience for that show in the first place. But I could have been. I like the show Unreal.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I liked Girlfriend's Guide to Divorce. I like The Good Fight so much. You have dropped a lot of TV shows I have not watched, even before we started recording. And I was like, oh, he is tapped in. I exercise a lot and I have to have something on to keep my mind off of yeah boss is something I always see on Amazon uh and I've always just kind of been like no one talks about it so then I just don't watch it because I'm like no one's even really talking about it I feel like there must be so much culture
Starting point is 00:20:38 like that that just because there are these things that get recognized as okay Breaking Bad is now the show that everybody watches and agrees is brilliant so that's going to be like one of the shows but they make so many fucking shows like i i love this recommendation because yeah i don't know i haven't seen it but i just feel like there must be so many overlooked shows that like in the same way that in his time shakespeare was just like seen as like another playwright who was like the Michael Bay of his time because of how violent his plays were. There's probably TV shows right now that we are totally overlooking that will
Starting point is 00:21:12 be seen as brilliant 100 years from now. Where's the ultra-violent TV shows of the right now? It's called The News. I started watching Patriot on Amazon. Oh, is that right? I was surprised because my friend Nick was like, yo, check it out.
Starting point is 00:21:27 It's kind of like has like a sort of a Wes Anderson-y aesthetic at times. But then it's about like Patriot. I thought that was. Yes, I really like. And I was surprised and I was like, damn, what the fuck? Amazon is not doing a good job of letting people know that they have good shows. I thought you were talking about that Jack Ryan thing. No, Patriot was really good.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah, Patriot. I'm not all the way through, but I really enjoyed it. Or I'm enjoying it. Yeah. His folk song in the middle, I forget, episode four or five. He has this folk song that's incredible. Pretty good, yeah. Bosh is written by Michael Connelly, who is a famous author of crime fiction.
Starting point is 00:22:01 I don't know about the books. I'm not recommending the books. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's been this new trend since the first season of True Detective where writers of crime fiction, like those paperback books that you see at airports, are getting TV shows, and a lot of them have turned out
Starting point is 00:22:17 to be pretty worth your time. So, cool, man. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? All right, I want to give you guys a choice What's something people think is true that you know to be false? All right. I want to give you guys a choice, whether we get real serious or, you know, real fun. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Here. I wrote down a bunch, but I'll give you guys. Ayn Rand has an intellectual slash philosophical point to make. That's one. People who use human nature slash evolutionary theories to back up their reactionary point of views are smart. That's like the Jordan Peterson. Let's go Ayn Rand. Or cats are aloof.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That's the third one. I think we're going to just have to have you back on two more times, but let's go with the first one. Let's go Ayn Rand. Oh, okay. So I've hated Ayn Rand forever because I remember I went to grad school at Temple for philosophy. And I remember going to the bookstore on University of Pennsylvania or Penn, as they call it. I remember going to their bookstore and seeing Ayn Rand was in the philosophy section there.
Starting point is 00:23:20 And I was furious because to be part of the philosophical canon means to in some way wrestle with the history of that. And it doesn't have to be like the Western canon. You don't have to go back to the Greeks. It could be like African philosophy. There are different traditions. But Ayn Rand isn't wrestling with any of them. And she has this very monstrous and moronic point of view about selfishness that is based on her own understanding of the world without there being any kind of empirical evidence or any kind of basis in how humans actually work. For philosophy to be really good, you have to have some kind of basis in reality. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You have to like argue it out and do like a ontological like approach and then like, you know, think about it and try and describe it. If your philosophy is only appropriately expressed in a novel where somebody has created a complete fictional universe in which your philosophy like actually functions correctly then like there might be a problem with your philosophy maybe read a book in which it is described like purely uh logically it doesn't even but like it just totally misunderstands how human beings work right and how we like the idea uh like libertarianism always bothered me as a as a political philosophy because it ignores that for you to do anything requires other people to have already laid down a groundwork right so there's no such thing as the pure
Starting point is 00:25:00 individual right and there's no it really it's if you want to understand you have to understand complexity theory and you have to if you want to understand society you have to understand how complex dynamic systems work right and that requires you to understand how people in a system affect that system and then how that system affects the people yeah absolutely this kind of like individualism or extreme individualism doesn't understand any kind of system and just says like I'm a particular genius
Starting point is 00:25:34 and therefore I should get all the money it's just wish fulfillment it's a lot of people being born on third thinking they hit a triple or her born underneath the dugout and crawled out to say that she hit a triple. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Well, that was far more intellectual than we usually get in our myths. I gave you Cats Are Aloof. I know. You could have chosen. No, I like that. You could have chosen Cats Are Aloof. You made the decision. Hey, man, whatever you want. All right. Look, you wanted to get philosophical. We got into complexity theory. I was a philosophy major. I wanted to hear some
Starting point is 00:26:16 philosophy and you delivered. And you were a philosophy professor for a while, right? I was. That's a little known. I got kicked out of grad school. Hey, it happens. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. La Platica, like you've never heard it before. We're breaking the stigma and silence around sex and sexuality in Latinx communities. This podcast is an intergenerational conversation between Latinas from Gen X to Gen Z. We're covering everything from body image to representation in film and television. We even interview iconic Latinas like Puerto Rican actress Ana Ortiz. I felt in control of my own physical body and my own self. I was on birth control.
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Starting point is 00:30:50 That's like fun and energetic. What do you want? We just want to whistle Dixie or something? Yeah. So the man behind the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville last year just had his application approved to have a white civil rights rally in lafayette square in dc on august 12th on the anniversary of the charlottesville rally so his application has been approved but the permit has not been issued technically yet so there's still a process for that where they need to get more details hopefully at that point
Starting point is 00:31:20 they will realize who the fuck is behind this and they'll'll be like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't need this. Y'all can do that just in private somewhere in a field. But yeah, so I think there may be some possible public pressure on the Parks Department out there to sort of reconsider issuing a permit for that, considering what that man had to say about Heather Heyer. Yeah, what's this guy's name? It's Kessler, right? Yeah, Jason Kessler. Jason Kessler. What a surprise. about Heather Heyer. Yeah, what's this guy's name? It's Kessler, right? Yeah, Jason Kessler. Wow, what a surprise.
Starting point is 00:31:47 A German last name. Yeah. Hey, not that there's anything wrong with German people. It's just that they happen to have a very strange history. He said about Heather Heyer, the young woman who was killed by the alt-right dude driving a car into her and a crowd of other resistance people.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Kessler said Heather Heyer was a fat, disgusting communist. Communists have killed 94 million. Looks like it was payback time. I mean, I think that alone should pretty much be the answer to his permit right there. Be like, oh, revoked my guy. So take that somewhere else. I know he's also suing the city of Charlottesville to have another rally there, too. Good.
Starting point is 00:32:24 But I can't imagine that they're going to. You realize we're all in America. I mean, his thing was approved probably like years ago. Yeah, yeah. I mean, with the optics around last year, though. November 9th, 2016. I'm sure this white rally thing was stamped in perpetuity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Well, we'll see. Your million creature march if there is a white civil rights rally in dc on august 12th uh i think i will probably go out there yeah whatever counter we need to sense for that because that is just fucking ridiculous and unnecessary and that's not the new america we're trying to create if someone did want to rent a crop duster and put a nerve agent inside the thing that would maybe do like a little flyover. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Fly a banner, subscribe to the daily zeitgeist. Oh yes. With the bank. So, so hold on. So you want to, you want to use this as a way to promote your podcast,
Starting point is 00:33:20 the dropping a nerve agent on a bunch of white, the nerve agent, but the podcast itself acts as a nerve agent. Yes. There you go. No, no. I think we should try to brand murder in the future. There you go.
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Starting point is 00:33:45 But anyways, fuck this guy. But anyway, let's get on to more. It really ties into our- Better news. Better news. Fuck Ayn Rand thing that they would have a white civil rights movement. Like, well, we're all just on equal playing ground or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 We don't have any advantages. Yeah. Well, look, the white supremacists they're getting theirs because look there has been a lot of movement around the whole immigration issue and the family separation because of a lot of public pressure and i just want to commend people for standing their ground we have to keep we have to continue to stand our ground on this uh but it's clear that yeah so take that phrase back i like to hear yeah stand your ground yeah exactly i mean honestly that's that's where we we have to
Starting point is 00:34:28 sign to begin to really just say no no we cannot go past this line so there's been a lot of push back on a lot of the racism and shit that's been going on there was a musician in alabama who just said some really wacky racist shit on facebook talking about uh he said he's like i'll tell you this is literally from a facebook comment of his uh talking about talking about, he said, he's like, I'll tell you, this is literally from a Facebook comment of his, talking about the immigration issue. He said, I tell you what, I'll volunteer to shoot their asses when they approach the border. Problem solved.
Starting point is 00:34:54 No more illegal fucks coming in here. Period. I don't give a shit about them. Blah, blah, blah. Goes on with some other ignorant shit. The thing that's always so crazy to me about this stuff is that, I mean, forget for a moment that these racist pieces of shit are just at their core racist. Forget that they have such a lack of understanding of what America has done in Central and South America. Like, why might people want to flee these places?
Starting point is 00:35:22 They're like, I don't know. Has America had a history since, what was it, 1954? Since the beginning of the Cold War. With the overthrow in Guatemala? I think it's 54 or 56. I can't remember exactly. But of fucking around in South America. Yeah, and creating power vacuums that inevitably lead to people having to come to America.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I mean, Kissinger alone should be in jail in the Hague for all the fucked up stuff he did in Chile and wherever else. And like, and what's funny with all this fear mongering around MS-13, like people really don't, you know, I mean, like really go back and look at what Reagan was doing in El Salvador at the time, putting all of this money into El Salvador to fight communists, basically, and, you know, giving training through the School of the Americas to groups like the Ataclá Battalion, who like perpetrated one of the craziest massacres in Central America. Then all the people fleeing El Salvador to come to the U.S. and then Clinton letting their protected status expire, which forced a lot of people to come back to El Salvador. And a lot of
Starting point is 00:36:24 those people were people who were dissenters from the army there, or guerrillas, or other fighting groups. They come back to El Salvador with nothing except their fighting skills, and then the seeds of these gangs now that he's like, oh, these are all, yeah, there's such a lack of historical context. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:36:40 this man who was in his band, he got kicked out of his band. Yeah! He got three of his solo bookings just fucking axed i mean my guy you should really be careful how you talk when one of the venues you're playing at is an actual mexican restaurant where the booker is an immigrant okay my guy so then he went on back on facebook with like oh man i'm getting screwed for voicing my opinion man and blah blah and this idea of i'm just voicing my opinion, man, and blah, blah, blah. And this idea of I'm just voicing my opinion, I'm so tired of that shit. Like, my guy.
Starting point is 00:37:07 There's also this thing is there's freedom of speech, and what you are thinking is freedom of consequences from your dumbass speech. Freedom of repercussions. Yeah, exactly. So he had to take a giant L. Let's move on to Stephen Miller. Yeah, he showed up at a Mexican restaurant. Yeah, the fucking balls on these people.
Starting point is 00:37:26 First you have Kirsten Nielsen showed up at a Mexican restaurant. Yeah, the fucking balls on these people. First you have Kirsten Nielsen pulling up at the Mexican restaurant. Now Stephen Miller, who was also, I guess, doxxed. Like, his cell phone number got out, and I just saw a bunch of comedians, like, posting about it. They were doing some cold calling. But he was, again, Stephen Miller was at a Mexican restaurant yesterday,
Starting point is 00:37:41 and a lone fucking hero just pulled up on him and was like, hey, guys, look, it's an actual fascist who has to beg for money for his like racist immigration policies or whatever. And some people booed. And the way they report is that he scurried off. Yes, that makes sense. Skidded under some furniture. Yeah, exactly. Into a hole in the wall. in the wall. So, yeah, I mean, this is the kind of stuff that I think when we can't vote certain politicians out and the ways we can obviously create an atmosphere to communicate to these people that this is not going to stand. This is part of that. When you see somebody who is
Starting point is 00:38:15 fully engaged in this kind of racist shit, we have to speak up and we have to check these people and just let them know, hey, this is not how this shit works. Yeah. And this is not going to say for exactly a lot of. Yeah. And they when the DSA for spearheading a lot of this. Yeah. And when the Kirsten Nielsen thing is, they got a tip and they literally were just like, yo, who can make it to this restaurant right now? And like those 15 people showed up and booed her out. And also shout out to United Airlines, American Airlines, even Frontier Air.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I've never flown on there. But they, for, you know, just wholesale refusing to transport any of these child prisoners because when you read the descriptions from some of the flight attendants, it was a little bit like, boy. Let's see if they follow through. I always thought the same thing like with the when people were boycotting. Kneading dough? Oh, the way your hands were. I was like, are you kneading dough?
Starting point is 00:38:59 Boycotting the people who sponsored NRA TV or any of that stuff. I want to see if any of those companies actually followed through. And I wonder if there is anyone that is actually holding their feet to the fire. Right. Because like the same thing with, and then some report, again, who knows how accurate this stuff is because I'm seeing it on Twitter. But like someone was saying like, well, American Airlines United was flying kids yesterday. So who knows?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Again, how long does it take the policy to actually filter it down? Sure, and to know. And then, I mean, how do you know at that point who the passengers are? But yes, I think at the very least it will – because for a while I was really worried of really how the greater public was viewing this thing. And it takes as many people to be vocal about it as possible. Yeah, it's the only thing that's given me a little bit of hope, that there is a hard line in the sand that it seems like people are reacting to.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And that hard line is child concentration camps. We're okay with everything else. Yesterday we were talking, there were even some people who were even kind of disconnected from that. But I think for the most part, clearly there was pressure because it created some change, I guess, from Trump. there was pressure because it created some change, I guess, from Trump. Yeah. And just a note that a outside White House advisor told Vanity Fair's Gabriel Sherman that Stephen Miller, quote, actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border. He's a twisted guy.
Starting point is 00:40:16 The way he was raised and picked on, there's always been a way he's gone about this. He's Waffen-SS. So that's somebody within the Trump administration being- Said he's Waffen-SS? Yes. Oh somebody within the Trump administration being like... Said he's Waffen-SS? Yes. Way to go, Teenage Mutant Ninja Goebbels. He slithered out of his mother's womb as a little galmy character, so sure, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:40:36 If he has a human mother. I feel like it's like the Red Witch in Game of Thrones. It's smoke. Just smoke came out and it's like, is that my child? I think he has liberal parents. He's just, yeah, he was just formed in such a way that, you know. In the fires of Mount Doom.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Teenage Ninja Goobles. So what else? Yeah, it looks like the pressure got to Trump, though. Yeah, so apparently Trump has done a 180 or a 540 or after tripling down, he has supposedly done a 100 percent about face in the sense that he is asking his cabinet to devise a strategy for reuniting kids with their parents and has told Homeland Security to no longer prosecute people who arrive at the border with children. So basically just completely undoing the thing that he seemed to think was so necessary for the past month, essentially. Right. And, yeah, I mean, the right is not happy about this. They, you know, he really led people out on a limb and then was like, Oh man, that's terrible.
Starting point is 00:41:45 What the fuck's wrong with you guys? Uh, so that's, that's what you get for following him anywhere. That's literally everyone. I just, it, it boggles my mind that the creatures that have surrounded him have not
Starting point is 00:41:58 caught on that either. They are, I feel like it's like breaking bad season three or four. They're like into deep and they're like, well, I guess we're stuck in this pit that he's dug. Either that or they're so stupid. Like everyone gets tainted that's around him and he somehow survives. Right. I can't believe they haven't figured that out by now.
Starting point is 00:42:18 For anybody in the administration, you're not in too deep. You can get the fuck out and maybe just do some truth talking, blow the whistle on these motherfuckers and you could probably save yourself but yeah take a bottle of sleeping pills there's other ways out yeah this is kristen nielsen i'm sure you have well she looks like a fucking idiot now because the whole time she's like well you know this is this is not the congress has to do this and like you know we have no power the president has no power meanwhile then he issued that executive order that was a cool pr stunt that effectively did fuck all. I guess when people caught on to the fact that it was like sort of linguistically not really doing much aside from more or less saying, oh, we'll put families together, but then we can detain them indefinitely.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Indefinitely, right. And then that's, you know. That's probably going to be blocked by the courts, at which point... So after 20 days, the law is that you can't keep people in detention with children up to 20 days or longer than 20 days. So at 20 days, there would have been this... They would have to split them up again. Yeah, they would have had to figure out what to do. Because of that Flores settlement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I mean, everything is so either calculated because that could have just been a thing where he thought it worked on its surface without knowing it was illegal or he did know it was illegal because it would have just then he could have shifted the blame to the courts when 20 days happens and there's more separations. There's no history of the Trump administration or any of the main Republicans breaking the law anyway. Right. of the main Republicans breaking the law anyway. Right. I feel like the minute Merrick Garland, the minute Mitch McConnell denied Merrick Garland that seat, and there were no meaningful repercussions,
Starting point is 00:43:56 there were no repercussions at all, meaningful or meaningless, and we didn't do anything, I feel like that was a real decisive moment for them. They're like, oh, we can do whatever we want. Holy shit. We just stole a supreme court yeah yeah so uh yeah the executive order doesn't really solve anything uh it doesn't even address reuniting the families it's uh being reported by anonymous sources to the washington post that trump is now talking to his cabinet and like you know just 100 undoing all the damage that he had done up to this point.
Starting point is 00:44:26 But we'll see. I mean, he's going to kill himself. Up to this point with specific regard to that policy. Yeah. But anyway, we got to just stay on this because this is really the antithesis of what this country I thought on paper was supposed to be about. Right. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I mean, again, we can all. For a country founded on the genocide of the Native Americans and the the slavery of course i mean what african people but what it became to people also who tried to come here for safety or a better life my my mother included or whatever sure the myth yeah sure uh but at the same time i think there is it is possible to begin to create that version of this country because we're at a point where there are more people who are a little more in tune with the reality of just the world at large. So, again, I'm hopeful. And Melania, are you mostly hopeful because Melania traveled down to the border
Starting point is 00:45:15 in a jacket that says, I don't care, do you? Yeah, so she went down to Texas to visit with some of the children that had been separated, and she was wearing a Zara jacket that on the back said I don't care what is it? I don't care do you? and then what the fuck is that like a signal to people is that she clearly
Starting point is 00:45:35 doesn't know I don't think any of them are smart enough to signal like that honestly or understand the symbolism I honestly think that they were everyone is either incompetent or stupid or just cruel in a way that is unthinking. So there's not one in the administration. There's no one who was like,
Starting point is 00:45:55 this is going to really piss off some libs. Right. We're going to own the libs with this jacket. I think she just threw the jacket on and they're just all one of those three things but i'm also like she's wearing zara right come on girl you know what i mean because she's she wears other like real fashionable shit so going to fast fashion that's where i'm like what the fuck maybe zara paid maybe it's a right brand sponsorship wow that would be amazing but yeah i guess yeah
Starting point is 00:46:21 so she made a surprise visit down there and said, you know, we have to figure out how to reunite these families as quickly as possible. I wonder if she just went there on her own because a lot of people are describing that visit as a surprise visit or just unscheduled or whatever. If she was just kind of like, if you're not gonna do anything, I'm going down there. So you better figure it out. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's possible that the I really don't care to you was directed at her husband.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Like, I don't give a fuck. Or who knows? She probably just maybe she doesn't even read English or something. And she's like, those are cool designs. Right. I don't know. I don't know how to think about this anymore. I like this art on back of jacket.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah. The best. Meanwhile, the conservatives are owning the libs by showing them on the Daily Caller. There's this story that was all over the front page of Drudge where they were like showing pictures from obama uh administration detention camps and being like can you believe this trump stuff and people would be like yeah that's crazy i hate it then they're like ah it was obama this is from obama's camp uh and yeah it wasn't good under obama right he didn't have child concentration camps. I wasn't a fan. I mean, he was what called like deporter in chief.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Right. Right. It's not like we were all like, oh, man, Democrats in the White House. Totally cool with deporting people. Yeah. So, I mean, under Obama, I guess there were centers where they would detain kids if it was necessary. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:43 If they're unaccompanied and they show up, clearly like some of those people, if they didn't have family, they could release them to, did end up in some kind of facility. Right. Or if they came across and the person,
Starting point is 00:47:53 the adult they were with was like a felon or something. Or like had committed a murder or whatever in their country of origin or something like that, then yes, they would. But yeah, the policy of just saying, oh, you showed up,
Starting point is 00:48:04 we're going to charge you, therefore you're a criminal, criminal we have to separate you it was the thing they were trying to avoid whereas trump the trump administration made it their entire policy to automatically do it which is the problem creating the crisis and the idea that uh once you uh let these people out on bond or whatever that they won't come back is a total myth. Like, I mean, especially mothers who come here by themselves, like 97% of them or something like that come back. So, you know, it's been pretty fucked up forever. Ever?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yeah. Welcome to the new show. It's been fucked up forever. Since Reagan? Was Reagan the real downfall? No, Nixon. Nixon was fucking the worst. he was the first person to make like racism i mean he wasn't the first person but in the modern era he was the first person to
Starting point is 00:48:52 make implied racism the entire policy of the republican party right but like was there i'm saying like culturally was there like a moment with carter because carter seems like a moment with Carter because Carter seems like a genuinely decent human being. He's a cuck, dude. Come on, bro. Putting fucking solar panels on the White House back then? Yeah. Alright, cuck peanut boy. Letting fucking Willie Nelson smoke Mary Jane in the White House. Oh, he did? Come on, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah. I don't know if he even let him, but Willie Nelson was like, I smoked a joint in the White House. Willie Nelson is Bill Clinton for some reason. Yes, I smoked a joint in the White House. Willie Nelson is Bill Clinton for some reason. Was your Willie Nelson a Bill Clinton impression? I smoked a joint in the White House. I'm Willie Nelson. And I did inhale.
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Starting point is 00:51:41 your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian,
Starting point is 00:52:03 now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask,
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Starting point is 00:53:33 This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And it's time for an update on the summer of Scott. Oh, yeah. Scott Pruitt is back, baby. Guys, our favorite kleptocrat is back at it. There was another Freedom of Information Act request to get more documents from the EPA.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And this time we find out that our boy scott costanza has spent over three thousand dollars on quote tactical pants and tactical polos whatever the fuck those are and tactical polo sounds like the most racist shirt you could ever wear i don't know if it's like because it's made by like a tack gear company like 511 or something like that or it's like stab proof or immigrant proof or whatever the fuck proof it whatever it is. It's yeah. It's to keep. Okay. Maybe you guys will get this.
Starting point is 00:54:34 You know, at the end of Akira, you know, when is it Tetsuo turns into that big blob monster? uh if Scott Pruitt is so full of evil the tactical shirt is to keep him from turning into that cancerous blob monster at the end of because if they didn't keep it in he would expand and destroy all of DC or the earth probably at that point but yeah so I mean another classic Beckerman reference to something everyone knows um yeah I just feel like it's part of that whole racist person costume that they've... Jack, you look genuinely weary. You look like having to read the news every day has just like...
Starting point is 00:55:19 It is killing me. But it seems like tactical polo is... When you go to certain parts of the country, every piece of clothing is under armor. Everything. That's the scariest shit. Titleist caps. Yes. Titleist caps.
Starting point is 00:55:32 The, you know, knockoff Oakley or actual Oakley, depending on if they own the roofing company or not. Sunglasses with a beard and a titleist cap and a tactical polo tucked into tactical fucking hunting shorts or whatever the fuck they were. Cell phone clip? Yeah, cell phone clip. Oh, the bell holster. Yeah, if you got the cell phone holster, I'm walking the other way. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:55 You don't have to worry about me, sir, because I'm worried about you. But that suggests that Pruitt used to dress like a hipster. He was blending in, and then now he has to try and blend in with his new people. I would be surprised if he was really trying to get into high fashion, too, on the side. Right. Oh, I was saying he used to wear Brooklyn Industry stuff all the time. Yeah, yeah. He's like, yeah, now I'm wearing off-white.
Starting point is 00:56:17 So, cool. Hit up Virgil for that plug. Yeah. Every time we do a racist voice, so far I've noticed- It's George W. Bush. Mine was George W. Bush. It's a Southern voice. Apologies to the non-racist Southerns.
Starting point is 00:56:29 The non-racist Southerns. Southerners. And there are plenty of them. They're mostly not racist. For the most part, they are just extremely polite and friendly people. So there has been an arrest in the shooting of XXXTentacion a tattoo artist who bragged about how people better not fuck with him while wearing
Starting point is 00:56:50 a chunky gold bracelet that people think he might have stolen from the rapper he did that on Snapchat which makes him the most millennial murderer ever he was flexing with the stolen jewelry on the gram there was. God, he was flexing with the stolen jewelry on the gram?
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, I mean, there was a post where he was rocking a bracelet that people were like, uh. Snapchat or Instagram story? Yeah, that's why you don't fuck with me. I'm not sure which it was. Was it IGTV? But yeah, he's in custody now. So that's good at least.
Starting point is 00:57:23 What else? What else? What else? What else? The has draft us tonight. I don't know anything about any of the players cause college basketball is boring. Uh, but let's do some cultural recommendations. Uh, let, let's get people up on some things. Andy, you had a good one that I really liked.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Oh yeah. I've been rewatching parks and rec. Okay. I've heard of this. It's great. But why though? What are you using it for? You're sitting down and engaging with it.
Starting point is 00:57:48 It's on the background. How are you rewatching? I have a very specific need for when I go to sleep. I need a show that is interesting enough to take my mind off my anxieties. Right. But that is not so interesting that I get engrossed and can't fall asleep. And I've seen, this is maybe like my second time or third time through Parks and Rec. So, because I'm not saying it's like boring.
Starting point is 00:58:10 It's genuinely a wonderful sitcom, probably one of my favorite sitcoms of the last decade or so. But rewatching it at this point is, it hits that sweet spot. Yeah. So it gets me to sleep. It's fun to watch. It gets me to sleep. It takes my mind off of the living hell we're in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Do you have dreams starring Leslie Knope? I do have Parks and Rec dreams. I've had a lot lately. With Ron Swanson. Yeah. Running into his arms. Yeah. And him being like, this won't continue.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Him hugging me like my father won't hug me. This won't continue. I will stop Trump. So yeah, that's mine. Alright. I will recommend the Malcolm Gladwell podcast. I'm gonna be the aggressively uncool person who still likes Malcolm
Starting point is 00:58:55 Gladwell. His podcast is I don't know. You don't like Malcolm Gladwell? No, it's like, it's what Andy was describing in the New Yorker, sort of like mid-brow intellectualism. Oh, right, right, right, yeah. But I don't know. It's a really efficient version of the thing he does well.
Starting point is 00:59:11 You learn something interesting in every episode that applies to a thing that you're probably thinking about right now. Yeah. There was a recent episode where he talked about when America went from having basically open borders along the Mexican border to what it is now. And he follows the story of the general who was a Vietnam Marine general who kind of fortified the borders and how it was like based on a personal failure, he couldn't like fortify the border in Vietnam. So he came back and was like, oh, I'm really going to fortify the border in Vietnam. So he came back and was like, now I'm really going to fortify this border. And he succeeded in making it really hard to sneak across the border. However, he also interviewed all these sociologists who had been tracking migratory patterns of Mexican people into America. And they said that prior to this change, it was 100% circular. Like 90% of the
Starting point is 01:00:07 people who immigrated into the United States would do it for a couple of weeks, work in the United States and then go back. Their family just lived in Mexico and they would just come up. And then the only time that changed and it became more permanent is when it became harder to get across the border because you had to like bring your whole family across yeah so they caused the immigration problem by enforcing the borders weird weird how that happened yeah weird how every time a republican or a conservative uh tries to tighten things they make it worse why is every fucking evil shit born out of someone's personal fucking failure yeah i mean like i fucked up and not because then they take it out of the's personal fucking failure. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I fucked up in NAMM. Because then they take it out of the world. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And then you get fucking... There's pure resentment. Yeah, you'll all see. If you read Nietzsche's, is it Beyond Good and Evil? I think that's where he talks about resentment. It's one of my favorite books. That was the first book that I read after I graduated from college. I was a philosophy major, and I was like, man, I'm tired of reading.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Like, the stuff they had me read as a philosophy major was not good. And then I was like, this is what I'm... Oh, God, it was like Frege? Yeah, yeah. I like bull crap like that. It was a lot of classical stuff. I like your deference for the bull crap. Bullshit.
Starting point is 01:01:14 A bunch of bull crap. That's bull. I really pulled back. Yeah, but that was a good one, Beyond Good and Evil. Miles, what is your cultural recommendation? Oh, you know what? Honestly, it got me thinking because you were talking about Bososh is actually that show patriot that i'm not all the way through but i'm really liking it because it's combination it's about this guy who's basically
Starting point is 01:01:33 like a cia operative whose dad works in the government and he's like this really efficient sort of agent but he's also kind of really fucked up and like he gets a lot of his anxiety out by doing open mics and like singing his folk music that's like literal descriptions of like kidnapping people and his brother's a politician that's like come and get it's a it's just a kind of this fun show that kind of straddles like all these sort of weird uh like geopolitics and folk music and the spy world and his father is lock from law yeah and his father is Locke from Lost. Yeah, and his father is Locke from Lost, who is the Lost character I identify with most because I'm an emotional cripple.
Starting point is 01:02:09 And I'm hoping to walk on my own two feet one day after crashing my plane on a magical island. Yes. So, yes. Is that a metaphor for therapy? No. No, no. Dude, therapy's gross.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Miles doesn't do metaphors. He really wants to crash his plane. You're about to get on a plane. I'm about to get on a plane. I should actually inform TSA about that. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy, easy. But 4, 8, 15, 16, 42.
Starting point is 01:02:30 4, 8, 15, 16, 21, 42. That was the last numbers. But so yes, I would say check out Patriot because yeah, Amazon, yo, hit me up. You know what I mean? Hit us up. We're promoing the shit out of you. This episode's sponsored by Prime Video. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:45 And there's another cultural thing happening. I can't remember what it is, though. What is that? Is something happening, I think, in Russia, probably with some people? Oh, shit! Oh, I thought you were talking about... It's the World Cup date.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I thought you were talking about This Is Russia. Oh, no. Well, there's also that song. There is apparently a Russian version of This is America called This is Russia. It's all in Russian, so I don't know what they're saying, but the subtitles seem okay. Very quickly, there's not much to say aside from telling you the scores, which you can
Starting point is 01:03:13 check online. By the point you hear this, you probably already know if you care about the World Cup. But a couple things I do want to point out. There's been this whole goat debate happening about who's the greatest of all time right now in this tournament. Is it Messi? Is it cristiano ronaldo you know messi posed with a goat for like an ad thing for i think for adidas and then uh ronaldo scored his hat trick on his third goal he was like stroking his chin like a like a goatee or like the goat thing would be and then now ronaldo
Starting point is 01:03:39 is now rocking a little bit of a goatee uh after scored the hat trick. One of his teammates was like, oh, you should keep that. But are these guys like, there's no Jordan who is the guy who everybody agrees is the GOAT? I mean, the people who, like the Tupac and Biggie is Maradona and Pelé. Those are the two people that,
Starting point is 01:03:57 you know, you can't fuck with them. Then underneath there, then you have your Zidanes and other players who are epic. And then it becomes a matter of taste right uh but you know those really the people that are held up as like the gods are Pele and Maradona then you have like yeah like like Fat Ronaldo and Zidane and those people they're like legends and to some people they're the goat but yes they're and do you think Messi and Ronaldo
Starting point is 01:04:21 are on their level dude Messi is a fucking magician. He's an artist with the ball. And there's no, yeah, he has to be in that conversation. The thing that separates him from the others is that he hasn't won a World Cup or a major trophy with his country where those other players have. They could put the team on their back or just contribute to a really great team and we're the focal point to help them win. So I'm not going to get into all that. And Ronaldo's just the most efficient finisher.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Like, he scores goals. Like, they're going out of style. Right. And they're not. Hot Ronaldo. Huh? Hot Ronaldo versus Fat Ronaldo. Fat Ronaldo, who we did see in the lobby
Starting point is 01:04:55 at a hotel in Hollywood, and I nearly lost my mind. I fainted. You turned into an eight-year-old child. And I started screaming, Deus, Deus, God in Portuguese to him. And he was like, what? And quickly got an elevator
Starting point is 01:05:07 and his lady told me to get back. He's like an American, recognizes me, what the fuck? And talking to me in Portuguese. Also, guys, check out Neymar's hair on the Brazilian team.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Literally looks like mom's spaghetti on his head. He's got a weird cockatoo look going on with his hair. And lastly, the Colombian defender, Carlos Sanchez, apparently he's,
Starting point is 01:05:24 it's reported that he's getting death threats in Colombia because he committed a handball during the Japan match. So, you know, never want anything like that. At the end of the day, it's a game. People don't need to be in danger like that. They do not fuck around in Colombia, man. I mean, I wonder how much of it is like you go into every match being like, well, if I fuck up badly enough, I could be killed. I mean, I don't know if anyone has that kind of anxiety going into it. I hope.
Starting point is 01:05:50 I mean, I would, but yeah, that's why. Then you would just be so terrible in the game. Yeah, it would be so awful. Just like have my arms tucked inside my jersey. Yeah, just bound in the front. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't they just do that? Never forget Escobar, the two Escobars.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah. Why don't they just bind everyone's hands, except for the goalies? Balance. You've got to pump your arms, baby. You don't have to. You've got to pump, baby. You've got to pump.
Starting point is 01:06:12 If you want to take it to the next level. Just to be fully safe. Take it to the max. Finally, we wanted to talk about that shooting that happened in Philadelphia. Yes, yes. And not to be conflated with the actual awful shooting that happened in pittsburgh right where that unarmed 17 year old black man was shot in his back uh when
Starting point is 01:06:31 fleeing after a traffic stop just want to remind people that this is still america uh but uh onto lighter news uh in philadelphia the philly fanatic basically clapped a woman up in the face with a hot dog gun a hot dog cannon and busted her shit up yeah and just kind of knowing that apparently they do this all the time at the games they shoot the hot dogs whatever this has always been like a thing that i've wanted to see happen because whenever they come out with the t-shirt cannon there will be somebody who's five feet away in the first row being like me me right right right and i just want them to just be like okay you you asked for it, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And just like take aim. Take this pneumatic cannon to the face. Send that person five rows back. The hot dog gun though is actually a decommissioned bazooka. So it's really dangerous. I'm sure it is. It's not the same thing as the pneumatic thing for the t-shirts. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yeah. It's an old World War II bazooka. But they've just like retrofitted to shoot hot dogs. Made the barrel smaller so itfitted to shoot hot dogs. Well, the thing is, they fortify the hot dogs with duct tape so they fly out. Anyway, so this woman got caught in the face. Just listen.
Starting point is 01:07:34 This is the local news just talking about the event. Monday night at the Phillies game, she got hit right between the eyes by a hot dog fired from the Fanatics hot dog cannon. The injury's bad enough she got sent to the emergency room. Now she has a message for other Phillies fans. Oh my gosh, I never thought a hot dog would could hurt. It just came out of nowhere. He
Starting point is 01:07:56 shot it in our direction and bam, it like hit me like a ton of bricks. My glasses flew. Kathy McVeigh loves the Phillies and doesn't plan to take legal action, but she does have a message for fans. Just to be aware, you know, because you never know, you know. I mean, you would think I understand a baseball, but not a hot dog. She has a message for fans. Don't get no hot dogs at the Phillies. Go get a
Starting point is 01:08:27 hoagie over at Wawa. Yeah, I mean, dude, also, they wrap the shit up in duct tape, and you know, honestly, my lady, that is very un-American of you to not sue. Right, I know. What is your problem? If I get hit in the face with a fucking hot dog wrapped
Starting point is 01:08:43 in duct tape, they'll call it the Philadelphia Mileses by the time we fucking double them shits. But yeah, I was pretty surprised by how she had a full-on black eye and looked like the bridge of her nose was busted. Probably from wearing glasses at the time. So yeah, guys, just be careful with your hot dogs. That's a public service announcement from Miles Gray. From the Data Zeitgeist. Andy, it has been a pleasure having you here on the Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Where can people find you and follow you other than here? Why, thanks for asking. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Andy Beckerman. The Beginnings Podcast, which is a very serious podcast about artists' childhoods, is at beginningspod.com. And Couples Therapyy coming soon to this very network. The next live show, if you live in Los Angeles, is
Starting point is 01:09:32 July 14th. Okay. And it's got Brian Safi and Aaron Gibson from Throwing Shade and a bunch of other awesome people on it. It's so good. It's like a new type of stand-up you've never seen. It's like a looser stand-up where two people are on stage together and they're interacting as human beings who have a relationship,
Starting point is 01:09:49 but it's also just so funny. I don't think I like stand-up as much as I used to now that I've seen this version of stand-up because it's just so fun. It's like a mix between improv and stand-up. That's a lot of fun, and it is going to be such an amazing podcast. Thanks, Jack. That's really nice of you.
Starting point is 01:10:09 We're excited. And we also ask our guests to tell us about a tweet that they're excited about. Oh, yeah. I never tell people until the last second. I'll give you a choice. Do you want a political one, or do you want one that is not political? The political one is a joke. The other one is just a funny thought.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Funny thought. Okay. Here is your funny thought. This is Rachel Brown. At Rachel Brown, she's very funny. She's the lead singer of Field Mouse, which is a great indie rock band that's in Philly. And she said, so sad to think that Kurt Cobain never got to experience eBay.
Starting point is 01:10:50 That's true. Which I think is a, of all the things that you could regret that he didn't get to see, is that he didn't get to experience eBay. Poor guy. It tickles me. And guys, we have a extra special announcement get your phones out
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Starting point is 01:11:35 I have been on an episode. I did an episode on The Rock, which went really well, surprisingly. I mean, you'd be surprised if whether or not that passed the Bechdel test. And I did an episode on Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, and you would not be surprised as to whether that passed the Bechdel test. It's such a great podcast. We're so excited to be bringing it over. Go check it out.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Go subscribe. Miles. Huh? What's going on, man? Oh. What's going on? Nothing, man. Got one foot out the door.
Starting point is 01:12:02 I know. We're sending you on assignment to Europa. Yes, I'll be there. I guess we'll just let people know now. I'll be gone for the next week. Yeah. And maybe I'll just send a little reports from the field out there, my observations, my musings. Maybe not.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Maybe I'll actually have a vacation and not worry about everything that's going on in America. My biggest fear, though, is that I'll go to Denmark and then never want to come back. So we'll see. I think I'll come back, though. So this might be it for you. So this might be it, y'all. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:31 If not, where can people find you? First, you're going to want to follow me on Instagram because the only time I use my Instagram is when I'm on vacation. Because that's the only time I really have something to flex on people with, unless it's a custom-made bong. Shout out to James Schick, the Android gambler. But if you want to follow me.
Starting point is 01:12:47 I'm excited. Yeah. Yeah. All right, cop. So you can follow me on Instagram and Twitter at MilesOfGrey. And a tweet that I really like just because I'm going to be doing some air travel is from frequent podcast guest Blake Wexler. And it's just boarded a Spirit Airlines flight. And I swear to God, another passenger just came up to me and begged for money.
Starting point is 01:13:09 That very much encapsulates the fear and stress of being on a Spirit Air flight. But I will not be taking Spirit because for whatever reason, they don't fly to London. So still waiting for that. All right. And you can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can also follow this guy you've probably never heard of called Rob Delaney on Twitter. He posted a tweet that I liked. He said, gang, I don't post on here to make friends.
Starting point is 01:13:34 I do so to teach inner city kids celestial navigation and impress my almost unbelievably large wife. That's just Rob being Rob. Oh, man. Yep. All right. large wife. That's just Rob being Rob. Alright, and you can follow us, the Daily Zeitgeist at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We've got a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com
Starting point is 01:13:57 where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we're going to write out on Miles. What's that going to be today? Today, since I'm headed to the UK, I'm on the little band that I used to really be into when I was in college called Fujiya and Miyagi. Oh, they're not Japanese. No.
Starting point is 01:14:18 The final countdown. No, never heard of that song. But this song is called Reebok's In Heaven, and I just like their style. It makes me feel like I'm driving a Lamborghini with the top down on PCAs in 1988. The bass line got a little funk to it. I believe it's called PCP. Oh, okay. Zaddy.
Starting point is 01:14:36 But, yes, this is Reebok's In Heaven by Fujiya and Miyagi from their album Transparent Things. All right, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys tomorrow. Bye. Bye. My cherry clients. Propellers and aerodynamics. I'm in consultation. My cherry clients.
Starting point is 01:15:12 I'm in heaven. This monologue is not dialogue. So listen. My cherry clients. Professor engineering mechanics at in aviation yeah yeah you described Thank you. Transmission, vibration, professor to you We're Reeboks in heaven?
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