The Daily Zeitgeist - Caitlyn Jenner = Poor Person? Vaccines Make You Magneto? 6.11.21

Episode Date: June 11, 2021

In episode 928, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Zahra Noorbakhsh to discuss Kamala Harris telling people from foreign countries not to come here, Caitlin Jenner's new attack ad for Gavin Newsom,... the new vaccine conspiracy theory, Florida's fight with cruise lines, China's wandering elephants, and more!FOOTNOTES: Kamala Harris suffers bumpy baptism over immigration on first foreign trip Caitlyn Jenner's astonishing net worth after the Kardashians saved her from bankruptcy Jenner campaign labels California governor 'King Newsom' in new ad Cleveland doctor tells Ohio lawmakers COVID-19 vaccine can leave people magnetized, interfaced with 5G towers Anti-vax doctor mocked for claiming that shots will ‘magnetize’ people OHIO: Anti-vaccine *expert* witness claims vaccine causes forks and keys to stick to your forehead and it’s linked to 5G network towers…. Up there trying to out-Tennessee us!  Dr. Sherri Tenpenny: FACE MASKS ARE NOT EFFECTIVE AGAINST COVID-19: HOW MASKS ARE BEING USED TO CONTROL THE POPULATION Fact Check-No evidence mRNA COVID-19 vaccines affect sperm Wow. An anti-vaccine nurse in Ohio tried to prove the Vaccines Cause Magnetism theory in an state legislative committee. The demonstration did not go to plan Hot New Conspiracy Theory: Vaccines Turn You Into a Magnet Covid-19 Vaccine Magnet Challenge: Videos Claim Magnets Stick To Arms After Vaccination No, COVID vaccines don’t make you magnetic. Experts debunk social media videos People who claim the COVID-19 vaccine made their bodies magnetic probably just need to shower WATCH: Randi_busts_Magnet_Man Famed Magnetic Boy Is Probably Just Very Sticky Carnival Cruise Line in 'active discussions' with CDC to return to sailing in July What we learned about COVID-19 from the Diamond Princess Cruising could resume from U.S. ports in mid-July — if passengers are vaccinated Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Blames COVID on Chinese Communist Party, Signs Bills Thwarting Chinese Influence in Schools Ron DeSantis issues executive order banning 'vaccine passports' in Florida Cruise lines and Florida Gov. DeSantis square off over vaccine passports Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Is Crafting A Cruise Line Exemption For His Vaccine Passport Ban Battle of the Seas: Cruise Lines vs. the C.D.C. Cruises still on hold after federal hearing in Florida v. CDC lawsuit Cruise Lines May Avoid Florida Ports Due to State's Proof-of-Vaccination Ban Royal Caribbean Cruises will now allow non-vaccinated passengers after Ron DeSantis threatened to fine them Royal Caribbean won’t require vaccinations on U.S. cruises, except in Seattle As DeSantis takes aim at cruise industry, Republicans step up attacks on longtime allies in corporate America Most Americans Would Specifically Look For A Cruise Line With A Vaccination Mandate, Per Survey China’s wandering elephants becoming international stars LISTEN: Hiatus Kaiyote - 'Red Room' (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 188, episode 5 of The Daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is friday june 11 2021 the season finale my name is jack o'brien aka i like the way you chew that right there because lucid thighs when you're walking let down your hair i like the way you chewed that right there Cause those are the thighs when you're walking Let down your hair I like the way you chewed that right there Except I do when you're talking that make me stare That is courtesy of Adult Monster
Starting point is 00:02:33 And I'm thrilled to be joined as always By my co-host Mr. Miles Gray And I may find myself Hosting a podcast with Jack And I may find myself hosting a podcast with Jack and I may find myself in another part of LA with a comfortable couch and weed in my pipe and I may ask myself how did I get here and let me go to the part where the thing comes in um I'm Miles Gray and i host a podcast as the days go by daily zeitgeist all i know and to the news again into the silent twitter under the rocks and stones there are hot takes underground oh my god gray as it ever was gray as a panoramic view View. Damn. I see you, Hannah Soltis. I even know that
Starting point is 00:03:25 Discord. Coming back with a vengeance. I know that display name. Thank you. One of the greats right there. That was one of my favorite AKs of all time. Right there. I will be pronounced, for the entirety of this episode, I will be pronouncing there as there. Oh, Jack O'Brien. You lived in
Starting point is 00:03:41 East St. Louis for a little bit? Of course. You said it? Okay. So far east that it was Columbia, Missouri. Well, we are thrilled, Miles, to be joined by a very funny comedian and activist and just one of our favorite guests on Daily Zeitgeist. She was the host of the award-winning podcast, Good Muslim, Bad Muslim. She's the senior fellow on comedy at the Pop Culture Collab. She's written in the New York Times, wrote and performed a piece on NPR's Fresh Air for some lesser podcaster known as Terry Gross. And yeah, just one of the greats, the hilarious, the talented Zara Norba!
Starting point is 00:04:25 What up? What's up? Welcome back. It's my birthday. It's your birthday? It's your birthday! Oh my goodness. Happy birthday.
Starting point is 00:04:35 Tabalo, tabalo. You're back! I'm about to get down. Tabalodit Mubarak, Mubarak, Mubarak, Tabalodit Mubarak. It's Mubarak, Mubarak, Mubarak, and I love it, Mubarak. Hey, when I used to do birthday parties in LA, I knew how to get down and happy birthday in so many languages. So yeah. I'm so impressed.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday. Thank you. You doing anything special? So last year was a pandemic birthday. This year is like a half pandemic birthday. You doing anything? So I'm a new mom.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I know. Congratulations. Congratulations congratulations we got to meet boba before uh we started recording he's a puppy and one of the cutest puppies i think i've seen super cutie and uh that's wookiee that's how he just came in oh yeah he's like he's like i'm still here i'm the oldest i'm the babysitter. I hate you. How's that been? A delight. I love walking into pee puddles around the house. Nice and cold.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So it happened like a while ago and it set in. That's the best. And there's something too about puppies. They're just like emitting oxytocin. You don't feel mad at them. You're just happy all the best. And there's something, too, about puppies. They're just, like, emitting oxytocin. Yeah. Like, you don't feel mad at them. You're just happy all the time.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Right. Just like. Yeah. You're like, oh, man, like, that was a family heirloom you destroyed. But your little tail's wagging. Right. There's something about my hormones. They're just delighted.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yeah. So, happy birthday to you. Thank you. I'm going to be playing with my puppy. Yeah. So happy birthday to you. Thank you. I'm going to be playing with my puppy. Yeah. I'm going to watch Jaws. Yes. Is that your favorite movie?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. That's my favorite. Me too. Dunno. Look at the two of you. And we're almost the exact same age, I think. Oh my God. You're 25?
Starting point is 00:06:21 What? Yeah. I'm turning 20. I'm also turning 26 in July. So yeah, something about that age, even though we were not born yet when that movie came out, it was just really hitting a cultural moment when we were like four. Well, I hope you guys come to my 21st birthday.
Starting point is 00:06:39 It's going to be really fun. It's going to be really cool. Are you guys worried about the 27 Club? Oh my God. I remember 27. Okay remember 27 okay no for real i'm 41 shout out to all the woman i know above 40 40 and uh i tried to keep my organs till 50 lost one uh-huh but uh hey I got a puppy. It all works out. Shout out to you. Shout out to Jaws. One of the greats. Did y'all think your life was going to peak at 27?
Starting point is 00:07:16 Oh yeah. I really did. Going into that year, I was like, this is it. This is it. Get ready. And I'm like, unemployed, living at my mom's house. Are you for real 27 right now? No, no, no, no. Oh my God. Wow. What a compliment though. Yeah. Thank you so much. No, I just never know anymore. I will be 37 this fall, but yeah, I just think about like the really like these seven these like numbers in
Starting point is 00:07:45 your mind of like truly like man like the great like the five people like artists that i fucked with is like okay that's an interesting coincidence and somehow i thought like i would get in touch with some kind of like super artistic power or something didn't happen that way you just harness it i just harnessed it to steal food uh my PA gigs when I worked on Hell's Kitchen. Oh, my God. When my mom was my age, she had four kids, a mortgage, and three jobs. Yeah. Oof.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And now I still go to her house, same house, to steal her groceries. Right, right, right. And come home to my apartment. Yeah. When my dad was my age, I was getting in trouble for drinking. Like, that's... I was old enough,
Starting point is 00:08:33 and he was just that old man who was always on my back. So, yeah. It's... Ooh. Yeah, just, man, how different it was. I saw a meme recently
Starting point is 00:08:43 that was, like, you know, baby boomers, like, starting families in the 80s, and they're just like, I don't know, I guess this is what I do. And like, it's easy to get a mortgage. I don't know if this is even what I want. And then it's like, yeah, a lot of our parents kind of went into life being like, I think this is what I'm gonna do. Maybe not. And then they're like, sorry, your mom and I kind of we've that sort of wasn't it. It turns out. Right, right. Moving on. Oh, hold up. My husband's home. I'm not a single mom anymore. Uh-oh. Hey, husband! Come get the boys! Get the kids!
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Starting point is 00:09:36 Every time I try to do a joke with American idioms, I just fall on my face miserably. Please take it away. What were you about to say? Now you have to tell us. I can't look at myself. Spare the rod. Break the child.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I have no idea. Spare the rod. Spoil the child. True to this day. Give them what they want. Don't hit them. It means if you don't hit your child, you're going to spoil them. Oh, not like, yo, spare the rod don't hit your child you're going to spoil them oh not like yo spare the rod spoil your child no no no it's not i don't believe that's how it originated that might be yeah ain't nobody sparing the rod in my house yeah unfortunately call my mom rod strickland
Starting point is 00:10:20 rod strickland yeah all right czar we're gonna get to know you better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk about kamala harris's immigration trip uh we're gonna talk about caitlin jenner's new attack ad we're gonna talk about the latest vaccine conspiracy theory, which this one has been debunked for decades, I believe. We're going to talk about those Chinese elephants. We're going to talk about the state of the cruise line industry and why Florida is screwing them over. Ron DeSantis, not so good for one of his state's biggest industries.
Starting point is 00:11:04 All of that, plenty more. But first, Zara, we'd like to ask our guest, as you know, what is something from your search history? I gotta read this to you. It's so good. White supremacy culture in organizations. White supremacy culture in organizations. Okay. What are you working on? I'm dealing with some stuff. Some folks just not being cool. You know, while I'm an artist trying to put together portfolio works.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Right. Please Venmo me so I can finish my comedy special, guys. Just Venmo me. What's your Venmo? What's your at? Z-A-H-R-A. Comedy. There it is.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Easy. Easy. Z-A-H-R-A. Hey, everyone just hit her with a buck real quick. Boom. Yeah, yeah. Do it. A buck, throw a couple zeros behind it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 We got 500 million listeners. That's a half billion right there. Hey! Just a dollar each, all of you. I love always that math, being like, yep, if everyone's a dollar, that's a million dollars right there. We're good.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So this is a special, I saw you say that you sold out a 700 seat show and you're now trying to just do the post on it. You got the material. It's good. The world needs to see it. Come through, Farzad. Come through, folks. I want to share it with the world. It's called on behalf
Starting point is 00:12:25 of all muslims and while i was kind of like working on how to put it together and get it out there and make y'all muslim that's the goal of course a friend of mine sent me this amazing article and it's okay so check this out there are sort of like tests to see if you're perpetuating white supremacy culture in your organization, your place of work, or in your relationships. Are you highlighting perfectionism, including the worship of the written word, like one right way to do a thing, or either or thinking? Do you feel a right to comfort, including a fear of open conflict. And of course, individualism, hyper individualism, and progress is bigger, or more. So like progress as in like, anything that's
Starting point is 00:13:16 quote unquote, progressive value, as objective, looking at, you know, constant sense of urgency. I don't know how those two fit together, but I'm just going to condemn people for it from now on. Constant sense of urgency, in my experience, in organizations means that there is a, like, just a constantly shifting set of priorities. And so you will have people put forward, of priorities. And so you will have people put forward the importance of progressive ideals in one moment, but then there's not the sustained, and this might not be what this thing is saying, but that is something that I think you see inside organizations is that there's always just a new urgent task that needs to be accomplished and you can't exactly always behind always chasing
Starting point is 00:14:08 no time for reflection usually my search history especially on a friday morning would be more like you know two milfs 69 uh subway sandwich two milfs 69 a subway sandwich Hold on That's an American idiom right I just get them wrong But to me it's smart Yeah That sense of urgency thing is It's sort of like you know
Starting point is 00:14:38 It hijacks the energy to do Something substantive Because if everything else is so fucked Then how the fuck could you get to this? Hold on, you want me to change everything right now? We're barely getting... So I get that because that is... I think you see that across society.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Well, and I was just going to say we just came out of four years of just constant urgency. Right. With a white supremacist Cheeto maniac. Did that happen? Yes, it did. Is he a white supremacist, Chester the Cheeto? Come on. He's the least racist
Starting point is 00:15:10 person you'll ever meet. According to him. Oh, God. And nobody else. Him and his big, below average son. What is something that you think is overrated? Overrated is sweets i'm just
Starting point is 00:15:27 gonna say i'm not a sweet person yeah i'm coming in hard i'm 41 i'm not here to make friends anymore yeah i did not come here to make friends i want the cheese and bacon scone i don't care about the blueberry Okay Do you like desserts? I love that like in all the times I've done this with y'all This is the first time you guys Let's recalibrate on this I want to understand where you're coming from
Starting point is 00:15:58 Because I'm the same way Pastries like if I'm at a coffee shop I'm not getting a sweet pastry I'm getting savory pastry I love a sweet with uh with some coffee but no i to me i'm usually so hungry i'm like man give me that thing because i'm hungry i want to eat like a fucking meal and like fruity pastry like with sweet shit is not like it doesn't feel nourishing to me i'm not talking about fruit man always chocolate cream or icing yeah, just in general.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I opt for the savory when I'm at the coffee shop, for sure. I'm trying to get myself to a place where I live my life as though I believe that sweets are overrated. I'm just keeping all very sugary things out of my household so that I can't eat them like right before I go to bed and, you know, feel like shit. But I'm like at my core. Jamie Loftus mentioned her Dunkin Donuts order to me a week ago, I think. And I've not been able to stop thinking about it and like wanting to go get that shit. It's just been like echoing in your head like yeah no plan lisa needs braces you're like oh my god i need what's what was the donut that what was the so it's i've never had it because i always assumed that their uh cream-filled
Starting point is 00:17:20 donuts were were filled with that like kind of custardy thing that isn't pure sugar and she revealed to me that actually they make donuts that are filled with icing which is like that's just an icing bomb that's just a sugar bomb and that is what my brain craves wow yeah okay yeah i mean i i try to eat less sweets but then the second I walk through the grocery store and it's just like, yo, man, buy six pints and they're like basically two bucks each. I'm like, fuck, say less. Let's go. Get the Talenti gelato, the fucking, the Magnum thing that has just like that plate of chocolate
Starting point is 00:18:00 on top. Oh my God. Yeah. But I feel you with the, as you were saying in a pastry world and I'm like there to order something. I, I opt for the savory. It's more,
Starting point is 00:18:14 I don't know why it's more interesting to me. Agree. What's your favorite savory snack? Zara. In San Francisco, there's this joint craftsman and wolf. They have inside of a bacon and cheese muffin, a soft boiled egg. Oh my God. That sounds amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:33 What? That is, I'm like, just like envisioning that in my life. World's changing. Yeah. It is just life altering. You bite into that gorgeousness, that yolk just envelops you. Yeah. And they take the shell off and everything of the egg?
Starting point is 00:18:52 How? How do they do this? What the fuck? That's amazing. What is something that you think is underrated? Chocolate mixed with fruit. Mm, okay. Mixing it up. Okay okay so sweets are overrated
Starting point is 00:19:07 i love it i love it okay go on just walk in contradictions y'all which what's fruits fruits i hate okay i'll say this i don't like orange and chocolate never was able to get down with that if it's overly citrusy i've been i've had trouble but i appreciate that my brother's the same way oh okay and we don't know what happened to you guys uh that ruined you but uh you know it's i i feel you a little bit that like that having those like strands the citrus like fibrousness used to fuck with me a little bit to combine that with chocolate, but I got over that real quick. The fibrousness? I would have thought it's the acidity. That could also be it. That could also be it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:52 This feels like the most curmudgeon-y conversation to have about sweets. How do they make you feel? What's your ideal fruit-chocolate combo? Berries. Berries with milk or with dark chocolate? Always dark chocolate. Wow. Okay. Miles, so you don't fuck with orange and chocolate.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Is there a chocolate fruit combo that you... Cherry? The ones that make sense, like bananas and chocolate. I can get down with that. Like a chocolate banana crepe. You know what I mean like when i'm in japan i eat that like yeah like they're so good yeah like you know that's when i those combinations kind of get to me but yeah i don't it's it's really because i remember once like some
Starting point is 00:20:37 like european orange chocolate or something my parents had laying around the house and i thought like oh here we go chocolate and it just felt it was such a violent combo in my mouth that i was like i can't this isn't my childish mind cannot handle this combination it's a lot of acidity yeah it was a little too much a little too much so you're just talking about like a chocolate from like a box of chocolates that had like an orange cream filling is that no Or like they have ones that are innately like infused with like. It's like an orangey chocolate flavor. Or like I've had the ones where it'll be like candied sort of citrus fruit with chocolate around it. And I'm like.
Starting point is 00:21:15 What are we doing here? Wow. Fuck that. I'm a purist. You know, I'm a little. I'm a little close minded when it comes. Venmo. Zara comedy.
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Starting point is 00:25:26 But, you know, she was down there on official business as the the head of the immigration policy, which is a very difficult job. And objectively, like, how do we think she did? I don't I mean, look, you some people are like she's been sabotaged by being put on that. And I get that to a certain extent because it's it's like the one issue Americans have just no imagination for. So it ends up always just turning into a thing where it's like if you if you show any kind of empathy, Republicans go, oh, it's open borders, no borders. Yeah. Well, who gives a shit shit Anyway like what the fuck are these borders That we're even talking about but It's like it's open season on everything
Starting point is 00:26:10 And blah blah blah blah blah So that's going to be the one side where It's difficult to show any heart Because you're afraid of the outrage on the right And then progressives will always Feel like it's always lacking Because it's going to be something like Well we have to project strength And it's always lacking because it's going to be something of like, well, we have to project strength. And it's like, do you? I'm not sure that's the solution.
Starting point is 00:26:31 And I understand that. And all of that is looked at through the prism of her being a woman of color. So it's just it's a very hard thing for people to have, like, clearly on the right, there's no way for them to have any kind of objective analysis of like what's happened, because it's just going to be like like she's angry and look at her. And now she's just and she just laughs off questions when Lester Holt says, what should you do? She doesn't take it seriously. And then there's also people of color who are like, yo, your mother is an immigrant. And like, don't you also understand like what that means, the ability to want to pursue something better for yourself and your family or to escape some kind of oppression or violence and i think yeah it's a really charged
Starting point is 00:27:10 debate i think she was damned either way and i'm not really as focused on like what she could have said or couldn't say the thing that really strikes me is this idea of like well we're here to go after the root causes of the immigration like you know that's why I'm not at the border, because I want to go to the places where people are coming from. That's why she was in Guatemala and flatly said, do not come. Whoa. Excuse you. Yeah. Do not come.
Starting point is 00:27:38 What the fuck are you talking about? And then saying, well, you know, that's also because it's not that, you know, obviously that we understand the situation there, but we want to invest a lot of money, billions of dollars into these countries to try and address the issues that are even having people flee. But it's like this, the most American shit where you're like outwardly being like, we want to help them and we're going to do everything we can. But at the same time, you completely ignore how the region got to where it's at. Like the U.S., it the root cause is the U.S. It's American intervention and the propping up of corrupt regimes that do as they are told. That is the root cause. It's not. Oh, man, it's the corruption in these.
Starting point is 00:28:24 It's like, what do you think it's all born out of? Because when people in Latin America were, you know, say fruit growers were asking for a fair share of profits or there are popular leaders who were, you know, gaining a lot of popular support for being critical of a corrupt class of wealthy oligarchs. Or maybe your local military didn't have enough training or weapons to put down uprisings uncle sam will come right in and help you do all that shit and that's the root cause of so much of the societal ills that are being experienced by these people so that's i'm just like what the fuck this is so american root cause at this stage like now you want to look at root causes right some stuff's happened maybe maybe after you know addressing some immediate need then let's take a look at root cause but to like step into something in the middle of a crisis and be like let's unearth the root cause right here yeah yeah let's do some
Starting point is 00:29:25 therapy let's uh think about our childhoods yeah no people aren't fleeing the country because of like potholes and you fill the potholes and they're good like it's there's lots of problems you need a two-pronged approach that is yes you acknowledge the root cause and also acknowledge america is part of it but you also have to be willing to accept people who are fleeing for their lives like you can't just be like sorry we'll uh just have a little patience for us yeah this is and this is the weird shit that they hand some muslims all the time where they'll say like you know let's take a look at the root causes of terrorism and it's always just an opportunity to label people as innately violent. You know, like the number of times that I'd be in high school and college history classes and, you know, teachers
Starting point is 00:30:16 were hosting quote unquote healthy debate to understand if like Muslims are just innately violent. Like that was a question, you know, and I'm sure it's still a question people ask. So like to hear them be like, you know, what's the root cause here is like, what are you hoping that's going to be? Right. Right. Yeah. It's just I don't know. And it's just, again, it allows another opportunity for America to act like they're trying to fix a problem that they created while ignoring their hand in creating the problem like you know a lot of the violence you see in these countries it's because of the civil wars that were that happened because the united states were being
Starting point is 00:30:54 like uh we want more like we want someone more autocratic that we can kind of like tamp down these like you know and these like communist sharing society type feelings that are coming out of here and then you get these guerrilla factions that grew up and now you have a civil war and now it's completely destabilized and you wonder why they can't get it to like what's happened well look back look look at ronald reagan's policies like it's look at the just the history of invasion of the invasions that have happened in latin america throughout the years and then to just keep it up as like man they don't just have enough jobs over there i think that's the deal and like maybe if we can do some infrastructure like come the fuck
Starting point is 00:31:34 on all that to say just it's it was more just to me be more exasperated saying well you're willfully missing the point here because really you'd want to say yeah you know what like we need to figure out a way to like revitalize these economies in a way that all of the people of these countries are able to benefit from like whatever, whatever is happening. But that's a model. That's a model that the United States has been violently avoiding for a century now. Yeah. Is that really what they want? I mean, also the other thing that's bizarre to me is that the level of destabilization that Trump instituted at the border is like on par with the same kinds of destabilization that George Bush was accused of with Iraq and that region and the terror cells that also wound up creating.
Starting point is 00:32:26 Am I right? Like, is this, I'm less of a foreign policy person. I'm more of a shoot for my jock. Is that another? Shoot for my jock. Right? It needs to be if it's not. Yeah, no, I mean the, like. I got some feels in my jock about this.
Starting point is 00:32:41 I mean, the like. I got some feels in my jock about this. The way in Iraq, it was the U.S. backing Saddam Hussein because he was an authoritarian who they felt like they could control over anybody who had like, you know, social progressive ideals on their side. Yeah. The George the George W. era. Right. It was like so destabilized yeah and then they were like you know go in fight him take him down and then assume that democracy would blossom because i don't know just because yeah i think it's just going in messing messing with entire societies without having a a plan or doing the necessary uh ground
Starting point is 00:33:28 work in addition to that that there were these interrogation spaces that were specifically to like you know torture yeah quote-unquote terrorists right and what they found was that it wound up actually creating terrorist sub-organizations folks would, you know, like hang and and then come together. And when they, you know, sort of just like left the George W. presidency, like they just were like, peace out on like all of that mess that they created. Yeah. Yeah. of that mess that they created. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:07 And then those folks went on to get funded by probably Putin, Vias, Saudi Arabia, all these webs of funding that came out in the Panama papers and became part of groups like ISIS. Right. And then you've got a similar kind of thing happening with what Trump had done at the border. And, you know, with putting children in cages and separating families and creating these divides and throughout the region and then just being like, peace out. And it's bizarre to me that we're not thinking about like, OK, those were
Starting point is 00:34:38 tactics to create terrorist factions and create destabilization in the Middle East so that it would be perpetually at war as a method of control. So what are we doing with a guy that we're still not sure about when it comes to treason who did that on our border for us to enjoy for years to come? Yeah. Yeah. And it's what I think because what it also does is we've seen the industries that immigration enforcement has created, like, well, or whatever, you know, these companies that build these facilities and things like that. And we haven't seen the funding really dwindle from this administration either. So, you know, it's it's all just this sort of like self-perpetuating issue that as much as you want to talk root causes, it's like that's just it. It's like that's just it. It rings hollow when you're not really talking about the root causes or at least wanting to bring the clarity of historical context and what the United States hand is in all of this to then begin talking about root causes. Because, again, it's just a disingenuous way to absolve the United States from any responsibility for why people are coming here. And I think people were able to see a little bit more clearly after the year 2020 and the Black Lives Matter movement and the George Floyd protests. They were able to connect a little more clearly what they were seeing happen to Palestiniansians to kind of the oppression that americans were seeing at home and
Starting point is 00:36:27 i you know same shit in you know central and south america same they were using the same tactics they used on the black panther movement they were for the past century assassinating leaders who the the more promising the leader the more likely they were to assassinate them so that they could put just some military dictator in place that they thought that they could control but like things like that like individual moments where you murder fred hampton in his bed or take out a leader who has like this groundswell uprising of like populist support like that is incredibly impactful that just kneecaps any sort of movement like what what do you do after somebody gets away with assassinating your most promising most talented people and then nothing
Starting point is 00:37:23 happens like no there's no justice like that immediately takes all the power out of the you know any any sort of ideals of justice in that society and then we come in and be like gotta get at the root cause here guys it's just yeah someone keeps putting bombs on these people's planes, huh? What's going on? Weird. Let's talk about Caitlyn Jenner. She has issued a new attack ad on Gavin Newsom. That is, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Oh, man, she's really running. She's running. Coming for his neck. Dude, coming for his headpiece right now. Right. I mean, look, she's running as a Republican. That's already the biggest head scratcher. You know, the party that's engaged in an active campaign to erase trans people.
Starting point is 00:38:10 OK, well, sure. If I even get over that mental hurdle, this latest attack ad, it's almost like, do you not know who you are, Caitlyn Jenner? And like the things you have access to. So this is her new ad that's calling Gavin Newsom, King Newsom. Fox 11 in Los Angeles obtained these photos of the governor and his wife at a party at the French Laundry,
Starting point is 00:38:38 a Napa Valley restaurant, one of the most expensive on the West Coast. Nobody's faces were covered, but the governor has been preaching something different in public. Wear your mask. Practice physical distancing. I think it's highly hypocritical of him. The governor just is not practicing what he preaches.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That's factual. What on earth were you thinking? Gavin Newsom doesn't deserve to be our governor, is what it says. And then it says Caitlin for California it's first of all congratulations on jib jab for continuing to get production work uh this late because it was what was this if you see it it looks like it was produced by jib jab that's all they that's all they have though like I thought you know what when people were talking about gavin newsom being recalled be like around the french laundry thing i thought that was going to be like a foothold that they then used to build a larger case about like you know his mishandling
Starting point is 00:39:38 of things but that is that's he's i mean based on that ad that's what they got man that's all he got who is running your fucking campaign that's i i here's the thing you know like it works i i don't understand right like the french i get it i get the hypocrisy of him saying doing this and then yeah you're popping off at the french laundry okay yeah that was bad but like jenner's missing the entire point even of like what what her own wealth is like while she's over there hurling things like this person thinks they're king. Huh? Can you believe how they're just flouting shit with their ability because she was texting on her phone and, you know, was able to skirt charges, even though that could have been a manslaughter charge and even had the audacity to tell the stepchildren of the person that was killed. Oh, I don't owe them shit. It's not like they were supporting them and they want to come soon. Like their their whole the whole energy from the gender camp was like they don't they don't deserve shit so um it's a i'm i'm i'm starting to miss the part where caitlin jenner's is benevolent god
Starting point is 00:40:55 who has a track record of not maybe doing the same shit that gavin newsom is i even when you read like she does live pretty humbly miles like in the divorce from Kris Jenner. She was like, I'm not going to I'm not going to buy one of these like gaudy mansions like my kids that my kids live in. I'm just going to buy a three thousand five hundred square foot bedroom clifftop home in Malibu. That's all. Yeah. So that's it's a humble little. OK, this is a direct quote. Yeah. It's a humble little, okay, this is a direct quote. Yeah. It's a humble little place. I bought an airplane, just a small one, because I've always been into aviation, and Chris didn't like that.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So I've been out of it for 15 years. I bought a couple little race cars, she said. What? Also, on top of that, when they talk about their divorce, in the divorce, they said, Caitlin got the $250, dollar Sherwood Country Club membership that Chris bought her two decades earlier. Oh, oh, wow. What?
Starting point is 00:41:54 You are a country club card carrying private plane flying little race car having just oligarch. You royalty, too. I don't know what the fuck you're trying to say here like you're more real people don't seem to hear that though people don't seem to get that right because then like the same thing happened with trump where people were like oh he's a straight shooter he's a businessman and it was like he's a businessman that's filed chapter 11 what's that more time what what do you mean he's a successful businessman you know like that and it's interesting to me that she's steering the conversation into a battle on lifestyle because
Starting point is 00:42:31 that's one that the kardashians can fight right seriously you know like it's like when you're hanging out with your old grandpa whose memory is kind of failing them and every conversation they have they sort of like steer toward the conversation that they know how to win right right right you're like hold on hold on hold on a what wait is that we're talking about i because their whole like their whole rhetoric right with like kylie and everything is like the self-made billionaire you know the self-made kardashians like this whole yeah by the way we need to take down the country clubs in Los Angeles. That needs to be. We'll do a longer story on that.
Starting point is 00:43:07 But that is. You mean the parks that we fund? The parks that we fund for rich people that we're not allowed into. Yeah. That have the most prime real estate in Los Angeles for parks that are just playgrounds for 55 year old fucking business executives to wine and dine each other. Yeah. No, that's enjoy some invisibility.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Don't they? Oh my God. Yeah. It's wild. I mean, anytime I remember the first time the, the Wilshire country club, when I drove,
Starting point is 00:43:40 like when I saw what it actually was, I always just thought like it was this weird thing, like a, like the back of a neighborhood that i didn't know what was going on and then i knew somebody who's who's like they some kid on my hockey team their backyard butted up against it and i was like yo what's all this shit back here they're like oh that's the country club i'm like the what the huh yeah yeah it's it's in the middle of right where I've been walking through all the time and I didn't know. What the fuck is this? Yeah. There used to be this like golf course right in the middle of this housing complex where I grew up.
Starting point is 00:44:16 And if they chucked a golf ball through your window, you just got like a $500 check on your door. Just a sorry about this. Yeah. We got people to take care of that for us. Yeah. Thank you. That was like standard practice. That would be an interesting domino to fall.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Like if somehow there you could create enough of a groundswell publicly where like this, like the counties are like, you know what? You're right. These need to be made public. I like if people would turn into not golf courses but yeah yeah i mean there's just it is truly like it it will be the last domino to fall because it is truly like all it's a combination of like the fact that we are an oligarchy so much of the power is held by the extremely wealthy the extremely wealthy like the extremely wealthy, like,
Starting point is 00:45:05 closet themselves in inside these like little clubs where the public can't get to them. Like, it's so many things have to fall. But it seems like nobody other than this one Malcolm Gladwell podcast is making this case. And it feels like somebody needs to do that in the in the realm of politics and i'm guessing caitlin jenner's not going to do it since she is a member right oh god if only we could get into the place where the serfs can't enter anyway tell us more about king gavin right exactly fuck all right uh let's take another quick break and we'll be right back fantasy football fans the nfl season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your leagues the best way to crush your opponents this season is to listen to the nfl fantasy football podcast come hang out with me marcus grant and my pal michael f florio as we give
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Starting point is 00:49:24 I love conspiracies. Yeah. This one's actually kind of fun because they claim that the vaccine makes you magnetic. What? Personality wise? No. More than I am already. It does. I'm cheating at this point. Suddenly the camera loves you, bitch.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Bitch. So the Ohio House Health Committee had a meeting earlier this week in which Dr. Sherry Tenpenny testified in favor of a bill that would keep a business or the government from requiring vaccinations. not only about 5G, but how the vaccine will magnetize you, citing, like any good medical professional would, those, quote, pictures all over the Internet. So she's previously advocated against the use of face masks and falsely claimed that the vaccine will mess up your sperm count. And then she was followed by a woman claiming to be a registered nurse who defended the magnet claim, offering as evidence how a key can stick to her chest, followed by repeated failed attempts to stick it to her neck. It wouldn't stick. Yo, you can put a little glue on there just to cheat. Come on now. And then confidently concluding.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah, she's like, I mean, look at this. You can put a little glue on there just to cheat. Come on now. And then confidently concluding. Yeah. She's like, I mean, look at this. And then after it didn't stick to her a number of times, she said, yeah, if somebody could explain this, that would be great. Yeah. You're full of shit. She's like me. We shoot from the jock.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Shooting from the jock. this uh 10 pennies that same woman we covered in the past who had that like boot camp for people who wanted to like be like anti-vaxxer like uh just misinformation spreaders like people pay like 600 bucks and then she was like giving these people being like this is how you can like get in someone's head and get them all uneasy about vaccines. How is that not terrorism? Come on. These are my opinions. These are my opinions.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Might as well be a chocolate cake mixed with oranges. I will reject it. Videos and pictures of people sticking magnets and metal objects to their bodies have popped up on social media prompting a COVID vaccine magnet challenge.
Starting point is 00:51:52 This is a old trick that's used by, you know, hucksters and magicians, and it's been debunked like decades ago. Probably hundreds of years ago. Right. First of all, from from the just vaccine perspective, the shot is less than a millimeter. So even if it was filled with a magnetic metal and we shouldn't have to say this, but it is not it would not be enough to attract a magnet once it was spread through your body. If it did somehow contain that amount of metal, you would just have a metal ball in your arm right there, and it would result in a lump
Starting point is 00:52:29 and intense pain, so you'd notice that right away. What? Also, microchips don't... Like, this is supposed to prove that they're microchips. Microchips don't attract magnets, but... There's metals in it, though, Jack, and that's the narrow thing I heard, so then go down this road. There's metals in it though jack and that's the narrow thing i heard so then go down this road
Starting point is 00:52:46 there's metals in it but every instance of somebody claiming to be magnetic has been proven and all the ones that people were able to actually investigate uh has been proven to just be they have sticky skin right you're oily you're sweaty yeah you're oily. Take a shower. I did the same shit when I was 13 going through puberty. And I could make a fucking spoon stick to my cheek or my nose and shit. Everyone was laughing because I was a greasy skinned fucking turd boy. And I was like, ha, ha, ha. My mom would be like, it's disgusting. I will wash that shit off.
Starting point is 00:53:19 I'm not eating with these nose greased spoons. But like that, this is, yeah, whatever. worst wu-tang aka is greasy skinned turd boy grease skinned turd boy but the whole thing with this the idea even if you like anyone who's even ingested some kind of like metal errantly like you can that if there was any kind of magnetic force you would feel that shit like it wouldn't just be like oh it's sticking to me it's like no this thing's trying to rip through my skin on the other side because of the magnetic field or whatever because you know like as a kid i remember as a kid i almost ate a magnet and i yeah a bunch of magnets and then my mom what the fuck you doing and i was like what and then i saw she showed me this thing about how like when it can get into
Starting point is 00:54:01 your uh intestinal your your digestive system like if the magnets are separated they will then cling within your body and cause tremendous damage i'm a little old school i still treat my incontinence with mercury and it's no joke out here guys i'm still licking lead yeah but yeah so james randy the great the dearly departed R.I.P., went on TV with a guy who claimed to have magnetic powers. This was like the humans can have magnetic powers, like Michael Jordan, the guy that everyone was like, oh yeah, you don't think we have magnetic powers? Look at this guy.
Starting point is 00:54:39 He is straight up magnetic. And he demonstrated his magnetic powers to the amazement of the audience. And then James Randi simply applied talcum powder to the guy's skin. And suddenly nothing would stick to him. Hold on, what's in that powder you put on me? Hold on, we need to talk to James Randi. This shit was working before he made my skin less sticky. But this is something that pops up every like 10 years.
Starting point is 00:55:08 10 years ago, a seven-year-old Serbian kid claimed to be magnetized and even fooled MSNBC. But it too was just that he was, quote, a particularly sticky boy. I'm more interested in that. I saw that porn. I have to say say I saw that porn, I clicked on it I searched history Particularly sticky boy What was it, MILF69 Subway sandwich?
Starting point is 00:55:38 MILF69 Subway sandwich I'm more interested In the science of particularly Sticky people That's more fun to me My cousin, the stickiest I'm more interested in the science of particularly sticky people like that's more fun to me it's like yo I don't know man my cousin the stickiest motherfucker you ever met I don't know what the fuck's going on with that
Starting point is 00:55:53 the shit that comes out of our skin when we're teenagers is just yeah they should be investigating that I'm also not going to shower and tell everyone I'm magnetic there you go however you're magnetically charged Yeah, they should be. I'm also not going to shower. Yeah. And tell everyone I'm magnetic. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you're however you're magnetically charged is actually repelling people somehow. So that's how I know I'm also magnetic. And it's not the odor. Let's talk about the cruise line industry, an industry that I back. I have sworn off. I was I've sworn I'd never go on a cruise ship and then i inadvertently emails with the deals yeah these deals are unbelievable all you can eat yeah we'll
Starting point is 00:56:34 see about that but yeah there there is a kid's book with a picture of a cruise ship in it that my kids are now like that's all i do is go on a cruise ship yeah so there's already so many comic friends of mine that are doing cruises again yeah like oh performing yeah they're already into it yeah it's back i know oh you want to know another anecdotal thing that is changing now that the world's opening back up is insurance companies are pressuring therapists to no longer basically saying we won't we won't pay for therapy unless it's done in person because wow there's too many y'all need it yeah too many people have used therapy and now insurance companies are like well this isn't as much of a moneymaker, even though it's like the best thing for the mental health.
Starting point is 00:57:25 That's not how insurance works. Yeah. You don't get to say, wait a minute, my profit margins is not what it was. That is exactly how insurance works. Because I think even UnitedHealthcare is like, we may say no to like emergency room visits soon. It's like, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah, it's bad. Oh my God. These are all based off of laws during is it george w is that right or is it clinton those health care laws that make it so that they can debate these things like these used to not be debatable right yeah right it's like no these are these should be standards like well what if a lot of people need help? Can you really have market economy if you can't starve to death? I mean, come on. If you can't die because you're too poor, then how are we really going to motivate people to get out there and work? Put their back into it.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Eat the rich. But yeah, so there is a plan for the cruise industry to open back up. A key point of this plan was that the CDC is requiring cruise ships to make sure that the vast majority of people on board have been fully vaccinated. That is 98 percent of crew members, 95 percent of passengers, which is a super high standard. But cruise ships are basically like floating cities where everybody just like strangers are crammed together and one thing that i hadn't realized is that like in order to make money off of you know what appear to be very expensive ships based on you know my research now that i have to research it they just like they turn that shit around. Like once one cruise ends, the next cruise like piles in there. It's like, you know, with airlines when we realized they weren't cleaning the planes in between flights.
Starting point is 00:59:12 And it's basically like you're flying in a dumpster. Why do we all hate cruises again, too? It was. Oh, yeah. COVID. I mean, also just terrible for the environment as well. Are they? Oh, yeah. Oh, because of all the dumping. Yeah. And just like all the. Yeah. for the environment as well. Are they? Oh, yeah. Oh, because of all the dumping.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Yeah. And just like all the, yeah, just the fuel it takes. And it's, and then on top of that, the kooky labor laws for flying like international flags and being like, I don't know whose country standards we treat these employees to. They're, we're on the sea. Sorry, I was just getting this Alaska cruise deal. It's 300 bucks right now. Wow. 300 bucks is what they'll pay you to come and you can it's really action-packed because you can actually watch the uh glaciers melting from global warming so and watch the big while you contribute to it yeah well aren't there glaciers left to melt are they still there are the one
Starting point is 01:00:04 cruise i went on was like when my grandmother was still alive it was like one that she she just wanted to go on a cruise really bad and so we went like she so she was a lot older but i was like fuck it i mean i haven't been on a real cruise and we went to alaska and shit and one of the stops was like let's go through a glacier field and it's like just bums you out you're like it looks like a bunch of rocks and a couple ice things and they're like yeah well all right maybe we'll turn around now oh my god what if we just had a cruise line labeled after just like climate disaster yeah it's like a cruise called like two years left of whales right clock's ticking clock's ticking yeah let's go but what's the name of that plastic island didn't they name it gyre like the pacific gyre the
Starting point is 01:00:53 pacific garbage gyre trash trash gyre that would be a good name for a bit all right or a boat or a boat the trash gyre border beautiful royal caribbean cruise trash gyre yeah the ss norovirus so that that seems like open and shut like okay the cdc got the cruise industry to agree to this the cruise industry obviously like they would be the ones who would fight against this they agreed to it obviously they had a very rough covet 19 so they are probably more aware than anyone that like they need to be careful and like that those high standards are probably necessary enter ron desantis and the state of florida or the government of Florida. So he's currently using COVID conspiracy theories to basically reboot the Red Scare. And he signed an executive order in April banning any kind of vaccine passport in the state.
Starting point is 01:01:56 What? Yeah. Why would you ban that? Our writer, James, speculated that he might be a bunch of COVID molecules standing on each other's shoulders inside a trench coat. That's so much magnetism. Yeah, exactly. But the order mentions protecting the free flow of commerce, in quotes, while also banning any business from requiring customers to prove that they've been vaccinated so basically he's
Starting point is 01:02:26 shutting he's so wow he's making what the cdc and the federal government has mandated illegal in florida so now there's like this florida versus the federal government case that is holding up like the cruise industry's ability to reopen um you know some cruises like one uh norwegian cruise i think is choosing just to not come from florida even though i think it's like uh most u.s cruises leave from florida or a large percentage of them no i didn't know that but then royal caribbean cruise they're basically being like nah desantis is right we're uh we're a large percentage of them. Oh, I didn't know that. But then Royal Caribbean crews, they're basically being like, nah, DeSantis is right. We're not going to fuck with that CDC thing.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And they had been with it before, and they're like, yeah, but we thought that that just meant that you had to do that level of testing for the test run and not the actual, like when we have customers one. So that's why we did it before just complete horseshit yeah wow yeah it's i can't imagine a more doomed cruise line yeah i'm that what i whatever i mean this is people are have their
Starting point is 01:03:44 own bizarre calculus in their risk assessment and it's's like in this one, you're like, as an industry. Yeah. Or I would call it crayon math on the back. But like, whatever this calculations are, even for like the fucking cruise lines, like y'all took the biggest l because of that diamond princess fiasco and they're like yo this whole boat is just covid and what's going on then tauntau would be like yeah we're not i mean i don't know i guess we'll put more hand sanitizing stations out that's you you know what you're setting yourself up for yeah but inherently because these are closed environments that you have a bunch of people especially when you get in those lower decks, like where's the ventilation coming from? Like, what do you. Oh, man. OK. God. And also cruise ships like they're going over international waters. Like, how are they even negotiating that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I mean, I think it's the port that they leave from, right, is at least part of the calculus or subtraction. This morning I read in the Washington Post. I don't know why I just said I read it. I literally looked at a video clip on someone else's IG story. I just said I read it. Yeah, that's what reading is now. Even the crayon math in my brain drew a picture of me with a newspaper. Like holding it up.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Oh, I like reading. Pictures. They were saying that the pandemic is on the rise higher than it's ever been all over the world. Yeah. Right. right so like our is this the is this like a bizarre u.s strategy to like spread covid because our infrastructure can supposedly handle it in comparison other countries we want to wreck like what didn't do a good job last year i think also like viruses don't work like that they're not you can't just like contain them like that like you can a missile strike or something like it's not you can't direct it that way.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Right. Yeah, it's bad. It's just that like. I mean, that's just me assuming we're just like infecting people and sending them outward into the world. Which I think is where we would be headed if this is taking a cruise ship from Florida. Yeah. Thank God. Oh, it's not real.
Starting point is 01:06:04 But if it was that that is interesting because now like royal caribbean crews will be like probably 80 percent republican on on board and yeah right vibe check quick vibe check you're like well this is the one that doesn't require us to be safe or whatever and you know fuck it's a it's a it's a fucking nightmare but then the only reason to not sleep with a republican yeah you look at just like yeah we we have these blind spots like well the vaccinations rates are very high here compared to everywhere else and like most americans are like well i don't have a real context for anything that's happening globally aside from like narrowly what i'm seeing in front of me anecdotally.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So I'm assuming everything's great. And yeah, like you said, it's still ravaging the planet and we still have, you know, a terrible way of distributing vaccines to places that need them. So I don't know what goes on. to places that need them so i don't know what what goes on but at the end of the day like in my mind i'm thinking like come on capitalists like you know you need consumers that aren't dying to buy your shit so yeah doesn't it behoove you to make sure like well shut the fuck up we need everybody can't have any more dead customers i don't know health care is one of the top industries in america yeah is that what the stimulus package was the stimulus package was just like we're gonna let everybody just get infected and so and we're gonna this is our
Starting point is 01:07:28 this is our money while we watch that happen just right well real quick i do want to end on a happy note there are 15 chinese elephants on a 300 mile journey in china across the continent scientists don't know why they're doing it but they usually don't run very far from their normal habitat they're going across the continent they've raided farms for food and water visiting a car dealership they've been caught trotting down urban streets by security cameras at night and you know they're in danger but fortunately they're being like followed by a swarm of drones that are just like keeping tabs on them so that they don't get hurt. And so they don't hurt anyone. So the main consequence of this has been a lot of adorable pictures of elephants sleeping in big packs next to one another.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yeah, they're spooning. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. I mean, it's like it is it is a little frightening though too as i think when we were kind of just first talking about it's like what if uh i wonder if those drones are like they're like fuck we're getting chased by those fucking electric birds y'all we gotta go right that's what's actually driving them like what's their deal why do they keep going huh get closer and like put the noises out put more noises
Starting point is 01:08:46 on them but yeah I don't know I just I god I like as whimsical as it is like I hope it's not like thing it's like and that's when we knew the earth was dying right yeah yeah truly that's when yeah that would be like just in that our bizarre film it's like it
Starting point is 01:09:02 was the elephants yeah should have seen it coming other stuff I feel like it was the elephants should have seen it coming. I feel like this is the closest that we've come to like when you have a really drunk friend who you're trying to like babysit. And I thought you were going to say Noah's Ark. No, I'm more associated with like somebody who is like just going through eating everything knocking shit over and you're just like ooh
Starting point is 01:09:30 but you don't wanna oh they're gonna hit their head you threw that pillow down right at the last second Zara it's been such a pleasure as always having you Jack I would hold your hair while you puke that means so much to me Zara, it's been such a pleasure as always having you on TDZ. Jack, I would hold your hair while you puke. That means so much to me.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I will take you up on that. Where can people find you, follow you, fund you? Zara Comedy, Z-A-H-R-A Comedy. I'm working on my comedy special. It's in post-production. It's my birthday. I've got to raise $10,000 this summer. Help me out so I can get you guys some clips.
Starting point is 01:10:11 I can come on back here. We can celebrate some jokes. Yeah. Last time, I think you came on your birthday a couple of years ago, I remember, didn't you? And then we had a wine fund for you. Yeah. Thanks for that. I drank it.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Got wasted. G gave birth to a puppy it's a wild time and now here i am just single mom and nine to five uh and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying okay i was trying to find a good one to compete with y'all i'm i'm 41 now and I still can't do it. Yours are still going to be funnier than mine. I still don't understand how people research on Twitter. Like find funny shit on Twitter? Find anything.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I get distracted in about like two seconds. Oh yeah, me too, me too. I'll wind up looking at baby ducks. Right. it in about like two seconds oh yeah me too me too i'll wind up looking at baby ducks right and but okay i found a he-man gif that's just words i can't pronounce that's just making me feel really old he-man twink faux days what's faux days what's faux days you guys is that a new one is it for dachi forase? I have no idea. What is this?
Starting point is 01:11:28 Is it twink for days? For days! For days! Oh, yeah. I'm confused. Pretend this never happened. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Too choog for me to understand.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Twitter, Instagram, at milesofgray. Also check out 420dayfiancé, the other one. If you like 90dayfiancé, come hear me ramble about that. And some tweets that I like. Oh, boy, I got a couple here. And when I say a couple, I mean one. Actually, no, two. First one is from a past guest, Tor glass at tory glass tweeted i'm 36
Starting point is 01:12:06 and literally the only way i can figure out if i should use desert or dessert is stressed is desserts spelled backwards and a shout out to people who still have to have those things in their minds to like remember how to spell shit because for whatever reason just knowing the order of the letters wasn't enough my blown and another one from at rob delaney rob delaney tweeted guys my friend mike who works in vfx made a crazy realistic deep fake of my wife making out with her karate teacher i found it in our email my wife and i share and i am dying. He's so funny. This is the only possible explanation. Baking out with her karate teacher. Side note.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Did you know in the etymology of desserts, it did used to be deserts. Oh, really? Yeah. Huh. You know the saying? This is one idiom I know. Get your just desserts. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Deserts. Because it used to be based on desserts, like what you deserve. Oh, right. Deserts. The way I learned it is you want more desserts so more s's and desserts oh that's a new thing right that's new oh yeah yeah i'm not contradicting you i'm just
Starting point is 01:13:34 giving people a helpful thing got it got it got it stop contradicting i'm sorry i'm so sorry it's okay i'll still hold your hair. Let's see. A tweet I've been enjoying. Tam Yahia at Dances with Tamys. Just tweeted, How about when vampires move off fast? Well, the fuck is that shit? I agree. Find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:13:58 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Starting point is 01:14:15 what song are we linking off to in the footnote? One of my favorite bands, Hiatus Coyote. They got a new album coming out, but they have a single out called Red Room. And this is Red Room by Hiatus Coyote. Great band from Australia. I really encourage people, if you love funky bands and you're like, damn, they're so good.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Hiatus Coyote is one of those bands. Like, you just can't believe how locked in they are as a band. And they're so funky and talented. And I'm excited for the new album and this one. The mixing on these little rim shots that the drummer's playing make your neck snap off. So please check out Red Room.
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