The Daily Zeitgeist - Chauvin’s Offensive Defense, “reparations” 4.16.21

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

In episode 859, Jack and Miles are joined by Bald Talk's Brian Huskey to discuss the Chauvin defense, the house pushing through legislation for reparations, the Republicans reaction to the Johnson &am...p; Johnson vaccine, and more!FOOTNOTES: Derek Chauvin’s Legal Defense Is Flimsy Courtroom Whataboutism In Historic Move, House Panel Advances Reparations Legislation to Study Impact of Slavery and Racism U.S. recommends 'pause' for Johnson & Johnson vaccine in response to 6 clot reports Canada won’t cancel Johnson & Johnson vaccine contract despite safety concerns: Anand Australia opts to not purchase Johnson & Johnson vaccine, citing clot concerns The J&J Vaccine Is Not a Tainted Cantaloupe Johnson & Johnson vaccine pause fuels anti-vax rhetoric from right-wing media President Trump on Vaccines: From Skeptic to Cheerleader Trump Floats Pfizer Conspiracy Theory While Blasting Biden For J&J Pause Without his Twitter account, Trump's conspiracy theories find little traction LISTEN: I KNOW PARADISE - The Platters Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 consciousness. It is Friday. It is April 16th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Pfizer. Got the Pfizer. It's a really cool and safe vaccine. Oh, shit. With the Pfizer. Does this mean I can't still quarantine? That is courtesy of Ensign Jensen.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Yeah, I got the Pfizer. Got that vax, the number one pumping through my veins. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Eat spice, cum hard, Miles Gray, do it well. Eat spice, cum hard, Miles Gray, do it well. The cum stains my shirt when I'm playing with my pee. Be the cum, stains my heart. Okay, anyway. That one's from at autumngreenleaf.
Starting point is 00:03:11 That's a reference to my appearance on Behind the Bastards where we talked about the wonderful Dr. Kellogg who notoriously did not want people to masturbate to the point of genital mutilation and hated spice, hated flavorful food it's not that he didn't want them to masturbate so much that they mutilated their genitals he didn't he mutilated people's genitals to avoid masturbating even once yes exactly and also he himself was a virgin yeah who never came and never ate spicy food so So on the show, I was saying the way we have to fight back against Dr. Kellogg is to eat spice and just come hard. Come hard. Eat spice, come hard.
Starting point is 00:03:50 You know? Anyway, yeah. Shout out to that great MIA video as well. Yeah. I love that song. The actual, the bad girls one. Yes. Not the eat spice, come hard one.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I got you. We are thrilled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I got you. We are thrilled, we're lucky, fortunate to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the hilarious, the talented, Brian Husky!
Starting point is 00:04:12 Oh, you are welcome. You are welcome. Thank you so much. Thank you for me. Thank you so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. I'm trying to picture what kind of genital mutilation you would do to create a preventative masturbation program like is it
Starting point is 00:04:31 were the nails embedded in the penis i mean there were devices there were just things like you know traditional female genital mutilation like to try to try and remove any source of pleasure while touching the genitals to that point. Because it's just like a really lame logic of like, well, when we go to these sanitariums, these people, these disturbed people, they all masturbate. So based on that logic, masturbating is a sign of all kinds of dysfunction. A plus B equals Z, right? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Other letters don't matter. Yeah, right. Couldn't be anything to do with boredom. Well, I agree with him. I couldn't. I think that that is really the cause of a lot of societal problems is the fact that we're not keeping our essence inside of ourselves. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:21 We're losing our connection to God. Amen, brother. Yeah, Miles Davis got it. Dr. Strangelove got it they're all these i mean if that reverse logic worked like spicy food would probably be way more popular right than it is is that is that a thing that has ever been positive by anyone besides kellogg clark Kellogg. What's his name? John Harvey Kellogg. John Harvey Kellogg. John Harvey Kellogg. So he was like, spiciness makes you hornier.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Is that a thing that has gone down? No, it was more that it'll just bother you because it's the stimulation that's too much. Right, right. If you're just overly stimulated, then now you're in a state of chaos. So just keep it nice and level with the gruel. Yeah. Well, that's why during the summer, people get hot and you get bothered.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Oh, right. And the bothered part is the need to ejaculate. Right. Or to orgasm. So, yeah. Anytime someone says that, that's what they're referring to. Yeah, and he supported air conditioning around that. He was like, please, if we can get something to lower the temperature in the room,
Starting point is 00:06:35 because I can't see everybody just yanking on themselves anymore. Please, let's do something about it. Wait, is this Kellogg the serial? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And his brother is the one who sort of was this Kellogg the serial? Yeah. And his brother is the one who sort of was the face of the serial, was to kind of
Starting point is 00:06:49 be like, I get my other brother is sort of a popular doctor still, like where many people went to that sanitarium he had. What did he call it? A wellness, whatever the fuck they call it. A wellness vault? Yeah. the road to
Starting point is 00:07:05 wellville as yeah well that's right yeah but yeah like it's just anyway check the episode was fully disturbing like months long baths was a thing that i hadn't heard of until that episode that they had to stay in water in water yeah look you know when when god comes into your brain uh figuratively and says look i'm giving you the power and knowledge to save our people you get these ideas like this right and there's seventh day adventist the strong and arson also been yeah i would say anyone who's starting a new country don't base this on puritan values i think that's the big takeaway yeah it just it just sets everybody off on the wrong foot from the get-go think that's a big takeaway yeah it just it just sets everybody off on the wrong foot from the get-go but that's such a strange origin story that like kellogg's
Starting point is 00:07:51 cereal started from an ethos of things shouldn't taste like anything they should yeah or you're gonna you're gonna lose it masturbating and become yeah criminal yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it does have a cock on the front of the... Right, exactly. It's one of the few foods that has cock. In very unnatural colors, I might add. Right. Yeah. From the lack of stimulation.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I don't know. It looks like a sick cock to me. I know. What was the discussion around the company? It was like, we'd like to add a little bit of sugar to the cereal. It was like, what? No!
Starting point is 00:08:32 People were getting pregnant. uh all right brian we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we'll tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we're gonna talk about the chauvin defense chauvin defense and just yeah so some interesting arguments being presented by them uh like physics defying arguments it seems uh but you know they're just going doing what they can to cast doubt on what literally everyone saw from multiple angles we're going to talk about the possibility of reparations. This house bill that was introduced. Only the possibility though. Yes. The thing called the Republicans.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah. So TBD. We'll talk about whether police should be armed. We'll talk about how the right is reacting to the Johnson & Johnson pause. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Brian, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Okay. Get ready to be titillated and excited because for my search history, and I'm just going to go to the very last search. Yeah, go. Michael's online coupon. Okay. You're wild, man. Yeah, if you need to find 11 by 17 frame for a flyer for your band
Starting point is 00:09:58 that you had in college and you don't want to spend too much money, you go to Michael's. And then you realize how can this company survive based on their massive amount of discounts because you already are getting 50% off. And then you find another coupon for 30% off. So then you're buying these frames for like $4. Right. Wait, they let you stack coupons? I don't like those.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I talked to somebody that was checking. I was like, how do you guys stay afloat? And she's just like, we're kind of like a dollar store. Oh, wow. So you guys just buy not great stuff and make it seem like you're discounting it. She's like, there's lead in everything here. That's why we wear these arc welding masks when we're just ringing stuff up yeah china gives us the stuff that they can't sell to that's unsafe for their people yeah that's that styrofoam
Starting point is 00:10:53 decorative ball that you're gonna turn into a christmas one is just packed together anthrax so oh yeah if that cracks even the slightest evacuate your home oh my god all the windows the whole call call the call the cdc it's fucking, it's the next wave. Has anyone ever gone to a Bed Bath & Beyond or a Michael's without a coupon? Like, I feel like those are places that you exclusively- What am I, fucking Warren Buffett? Did you make a big deal? It's like, I'm paying full price over here.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Don't give a shit. Hey, 20% off what? There you go. Come on, now. You keep that 20% for yourself, sweetheart. Yeah, buy yourself something nice. Because I like, thank you though. I love the Yankee Candle Woodwick collection.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Get yourself a candle that'll probably cause nasal damage if you smell it. Go ahead. I remember during Christmas though, because I get on a bit of a scented candle kick during the holidays. Because I just want my house to smell like a karen nightmare just like yeah i grew up with like anti-christmas house so the pendulum has just swung the other way in my adulthood like making up for the lack of american christmas sense and every day bed bath and beyond be like hey man you want like uh like 25 off if you just pick it up right now like there was it at a certain point it was
Starting point is 00:12:05 almost foolish to go there and not use a coupon because they were almost begging you to be like come on man let's use this fucking coupon oh yeah yeah right what else we gotta do yeah it's all contraband it's all from like pirate ships you know they're just like these freight liners that they hijack and then they just sell through michaels yeah that's funny that they like treat their candle consumers like addicts like they're just like oh yeah we we've got another one he's tilting he's tilting yeah that's the thing when you walk in they usually have like you know flats of them right by the door and it is a gauntlet of fragrance that you must survive to get through and my daughter and i would always do a thing i was like do you want to do the candle sniff and we would like test each one and it's just a weird it's just some far end of like the
Starting point is 00:12:50 fragrance scale of just like they're not real you know they're not real and they're approximation of like the ocean but really yeah it's probably like if the ocean smells like that it's because like people someone threw a bunch of tideide Pods away at the same time. Completely. We couldn't sell chemical fire as a candle, but we'll call it sea breeze. Okay, yeah, just kind of only a little bit of my nose hairs. Low tide. That would be one that probably wouldn't sell very well.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Exxon Valdez. Often, the ocean smells like complete shit. LA River low tide in May. Just drove over the LA River. Body in low tide. What is something you think is overrated, Brian? This is going to be a weird one, but I'd say news coverage
Starting point is 00:13:42 of what's been going on lately, especially around in minneapolis it feels like it's overrated and that is underrated i feel like they're they've done a a poor job of sort of really like focusing on like no this is a serious situation again i feel like we're back to this point where they're kind of like and there's a situation going on but don't worry because we're in a different time now and it's not cause for concern. This is not the thing. Yes, 2021.
Starting point is 00:14:08 So we're not going to sort of stoke the fear. We're going to find something else to stoke the fear about. So I don't know. I guess overrated is sort of like, this sounds like I'm saying fake media or fake news, but it's not that. I mean, it's disingenuous media. Yeah. Corporate media that has absolutely, in equipped to actually report what is happening.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. Unbiased reporting is becoming, uh, uh, both overrated and underserved. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:39 That's my sort of stumbling through a thought. No, but even like then it's just, it's true. I mean, I think it's also just exhausting to think like fuck like we can't even fucking count on these news to even do what it's supposed to because it's clearly it's become this other form of journalism that isn't what i think we need journalism to be which is just this very straightforward accounting
Starting point is 00:15:02 without being uncomfortable i think because a lot of i think the issue is now we've turned things like white supremacy and racism into like opinion type things right we can't objectively just say this is racism this is systemic white supremacy showing its face again as we've seen many times over the course of this country's history yeah uh rather than like it's i don't yeah what do we say like i guess we'll just debate taser colors for there's a thing that yeah maybe maybe they should be purple like a fun like pink make it a fun pink violation of your human rights just yeah just make it pop a little bit. about the thing like that they've just been saying over and over again that like it's it's like putting an onus on them to like provide something that i don't know and then the media just cuts
Starting point is 00:16:14 back to like a wide shot of like an angry crowd they love they love to you know scare people with an angry mob but it's just, it's not complicated. What, what's being said, but the, the media is like, and what, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Like what, can you tell us what you feel? And it's just like, it took what? Three and a half years basically for them to start to guide, identify Trump's actions as like, this is authoritarian procedure. This is authoritarian structuring.
Starting point is 00:16:48 This is finding the holes in our democracy and exploiting them, which is the authoritarian approach to dismantling existing democracy. And, you know, but up to that point, it was this kind of like, he has an unusual approach to our democracy. There's such an inherent need to protect the system, you know, to protect the idea of the systemic racism exists within a system that we don't want to admit or identify is varnished with its own sin and its own, you know, dysfunction. own sin and its own you know dysfunction we still have to be like no i mean our buildings are marble and white for a reason because it's hard to you know they don't stain but it's like it's like no blood sticks to that stuff too i don't know no i'm working on a ongoing uh poem literally there's just a spoken word piece that i'm just gonna alabaster white still can't hide the transgressions of generations past the human chain is also one of bondage not linking us together i mean that's probably where the news would go to avoid being a little bit more clear-eyed about things like and here's a spoken word poet
Starting point is 00:18:05 right to kind of like yes have just have do things at the top of the hour to say the problem of systemic racism in the united states is ongoing just i mean it's just like even with covid they got tired of that counter for after like fucking three months. Right. Day whatever. Yeah. Because you don't want to actually get people to be like, fuck, right. This is bad. And I think in the same way, there's just a lack of courage or desire to rock any kind of boat. Unfortunately, in this boat is just the laziest analysis on the societal ills of this country.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Well, it's like the it's a litigious fear you know i mean like they do not want to say anything that will get them in some kind of like libel state i imagine i don't know it just it's sort of or you know the argument is like we can't label something unless there's proof but we're dealing with like issues that are like, there's, I mean, there's videotape proof as you know, with Truman. So, but it's like, but even approaches these important subjects by watching ESPN during the perspective of like we we have to ignore the fact that you've been telling us what is wrong and telling us what you're angry about for the past 200 years like right and that the thing that is frustrating is that we have to keep saying it and instead you're just saying keep saying it could you uh keep saying that into this microphone uh while like well put that into this microphone uh while
Starting point is 00:20:05 like well put that into perspective what's happened what's gone on here feeling yeah holy smokes i am only now just noticing it right give us give us your own whoa they just said racism let's cut back to the studio where we can just have a nebulous crowd shot of angry brown faces right yeah and then just leave and then that be the discourse yeah uh because it's that's but i mean i think until like more people in the media can actually have a reckoning with their place in upholding this system of oppression too through their reporting there's not going to be much of a change and i think people are going to have to become more and more discerning and cynical uh in terms of like who is telling them what about what's going on yeah
Starting point is 00:20:46 yeah i think it's sort of you have to take the information you're getting at a very sort of like here's the broad stroke information that you know what the nuance probably is you know hopefully you do but um they're not going to give it to you you know i mean yeah yeah it's and i i've heard other people say oh yeah i get i i get my perspective on what's going on here in the u.s from the guardian uk or you know some some other yeah european uh news sources because they can different white supremacist country yeah yeah yeah yeah they're they yeah what is their what is their perspective on our white supremacy i mean it's it's certainly a better form because it's just like even during the bush years too is when i was first like realizing i was like oh
Starting point is 00:21:36 shit i can't find news about anything to do with iraq from like the u.s media like i have to i have to read the bbc or al jazeera or something like that because i'm getting like the raytheon power hour right from like these other outlets and i'm like this is so fucking vague and like yeah not even remotely giving like a critical eye or examination of what's happening yeah the only they do convey, and this is what was so brilliant about the Daily Show or currently is like, it's like we will shovel up the gravitas and the indication that we are, we know that this is an issue
Starting point is 00:22:13 and that we really feel that this is an issue and we're angry about it too, but we can't quite express that opinion. Like that's as far as they will do. They will go through the kind of like,
Starting point is 00:22:24 and it's pretty condescending. Like I, they will go through the kind of like and it's it's pretty condescending like i you know when somebody kind of meets you with like yes i hear you and you just want to fucking punch them in the face because you're like no don't hear me like be here with me be no no no no that's that's too active yeah i hear you i'm here for the passive part just to hear oh my god really oh i will check this off my list so i can sleep at night i was outraged for a moment oh you should have seen me last week bill i was at this party and this brown guy said something and i was like oh god i hear you i hear you so you know i've done my part in this fight. You know what I mean? So where's that caddy of ours? Pretty slow today.
Starting point is 00:23:07 It's like, what the fuck? Brian, what's something you think is underrated? This is going to sound way cheesy, but I think it's based on a bunch of encounters I've had lately. I cannot emphasize empathy and compassion right now. Because we're all fucking at the end of this tunnel and we can either bottleneck ourselves up at it
Starting point is 00:23:31 and just like, I, you know, I could easily see everyone just like almost crossing the finish line with the vaccine and stuff. And then, but just, just killing each other before we get there.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And just forgetting that we've all gotten this far and it would be just insane if we just like lose sight of like we all want to end this thing so let's just kind of recognize that each other and do our part and this is based on this douche that goes up and down my steps without a mask on and uh jesus and said to me um good luck staying alive out there. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:08 I've asked him a few times. He's got some problems, I can tell. You can tell just the way he sits on the steps. He sits with this wide-legged, man-spread thing. Because he's an infection for a neighborhood. Yeah. He's like, look at this unmasturbated dick that I got. Kellogg would be so proud of me.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I'm eating wet cardboard for dinner tonight. I'm eating tasteless glop. But yeah, I just like everything I had was just like, I fantasized pushing him down the steps. I sort of half-assed yelled at him and my kid was with me. So I was like kind of swallowed it. So it ended up being like, you're asshole just did that stick it but in your kid's memoir yeah i remember that day my dad sort of stood up to someone maybe not there was uh i i felt like going to the uh like I got my first dose of the vaccine this morning in a parking garage. And it was like they, you know, they had the stanchions.
Starting point is 00:25:12 You had to like walk around the ropes and everything. But there's just like a sense of, I don't know. I feel like that's a good remedy to any, you know, sort of antisosocial like feelings or anybody who's it's just like a whole mass of people who are there to like help solve a social problem and yeah goodwill we sat there uh in like waiting our 15 minutes and uh did not have the negative vibes of a DMV. It looks exactly like a DMV where everybody's seated in chairs all facing the same direction. But yeah, I feel like everybody was just very happy to be there and happy to see people were dressed up. This is by far the most dressed up I've been in because I'm not wearing sweatpants. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I was going to say, you're wearing a suit jacket, but you just tore the sleeve off. All right. Which arm do you want? You're like breaking. Yeah. You could have just. Right. Right. I was going to say like you wearing a suit jacket, but you just tore the sleeve off. And they're like, all right, which arm do you want? And you're like, break. Yeah. You could have just,
Starting point is 00:26:09 okay, whatever. You clearly had an eye and you clearly envisioned this day in your very specific way. But like leaving my house is such a, such a treat for me now. I'm just like, wow,
Starting point is 00:26:22 there is an outside world with people. I don't know. Right. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come right back. No. All right. So we're still hanging here, waiting until Brian's ready to take a break.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Are you ready now for a break? All right. Take a break now. All right. Good. Okay. We're going to take that break now all right good okay uh we're gonna take that break this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months these events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
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Starting point is 00:31:33 I mean, this is the thing for people who are the defense lawyers and experts for people like Derek Chauvin. You're operating on a different wavelength. Yeah. Because you're like, fuck. All right. Let me put the cape on for white supremacy and try and obscure the facts as best as I can. Well, I can go to sleep at night because I'm a goblin. And I live on the side of a church and I turn to stone at night. So the whole thing is like their expert witness is so this guy Fowler is just an absolute fucking clown.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Essentially, this guy is almost suggesting, maybe George Floyd was actually dead before the police arrived. Have you ever considered that? These are the kinds of swings he's taking, and the whole thing isn't even a clear theory that he has. It's just to be like, well, it could have been, I don't know, could have been that, could have been that. Could have been white supremacy doesn't exist. I don't know, guys, what am I doing up here?
Starting point is 00:32:28 So he says first, a few of the theories. Floyd's oxygen intake was impeded by the exhaust pipe of the nearby police car where he was being knelt on. Then he also did concede during the cross-examination that he didn't know anything about the car, what kind of exhaust came out, or even if it was running at the time. Right. So they were like, okay. He had no idea.
Starting point is 00:32:51 He's like, all right, how's this? All right, new angle, new angle. How about this one? Perhaps a tumor found in Floyd's lower abdomen could have contributed to a sudden surge of adrenaline that led to, quote, sudden cardiac arrhythmia. What? Yeah. Yeah. that led to, quote, sudden cardiac arrhythmia.
Starting point is 00:33:03 What? Yeah. Yeah. This is like arguing with the person who's just trying to argue like you don't know. It's a lot like arguing with a conspiracy theorist or like a flat earther who's like, how do you know? Or a conservative.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Right. You've been to space? Have you flown up there and seen the curvature of Earth? Yeah. Well, that's their ploy. They're just leaning into how do you know yeah their only thing is like you have to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt well yeah and doing that the thing where they they give themselves intellectual cover for their
Starting point is 00:33:37 racism which is to be like well it couldn't just been that this guy just killed this black guy because he's a racist it could have been this it could have been that this guy just killed this black guy because he's a racist. It could have been this. It could have been that. Because for me to agree with you that this office, then I have to actually acknowledge this form of racism on some level, which I'm not willing to do. So I would rather retreat to the safety of these intellectually disingenuous arguments of, for example, the position of Chauvin's knee during the arrest saying it wasn't necessarily restricting Floyd's breathing. And if it was, there would be evidence of bruising on his body. There was bruising on his body. The prosecutors entered. They showed that evidence.
Starting point is 00:34:15 So it's just like, again, this is it's just an exhausting exercise in trying to deal with this, you know, expert. And this is seems to be his specialty uh obscuring black death because this is another this from the daily beast quote uh though not part of the chauvin case fowler is currently being sued for his expert testimony in another case in maryland where police killed a black teen and arrest the parent the teen's parents described as quote chillingly similar to george floyd's but a death that fowler similarly testified was quote accidental wow so he's like the special forces white supremacy op you know like operative let me help what is it looks like a clear-cut case of this murder yeah they bring all here's a bunch of mush but we have we have
Starting point is 00:34:59 such a long-standing relationship in systemic racism with with um logic and science and the neutrality of using that as a rationalizing and kind of eradicating any kind of like humane perspective on it it just reduces it down to like okay if we're just talking about if the law is about like, what are the specific facts and the science behind it, the specific facts, that's all they're going to lean into. And that's all that. And that's going to be their safety point. Because I think the next step that we do in this fucking country is like, but that that is what justice is. It's based on truth true it's on on fact and truth and so these impassioned you know from our perspective completely logical uh uh arguments of like you have documentation of someone being murdered you have someone being crushed and slowly choked like yeah that's what we see on the inside yeah while screaming about it they, no, but we need to get in to really get under the hood here. Because otherwise, if this poor man is wrongly accused, our entire system, you know, would be upended. And it's always.
Starting point is 00:36:17 That's something of other people have been wrongly accused. It's constantly this thing of like the system needs to be protected. The system needs to be sort of like the fragility of the system is being tested and we have to kind of uphold it that that that's my imagining of what this well yeah it's the last line because well because yeah the system itself is inherently racist so to acknowledge it would it would i would have to crumble more in the sense that justice would have to be applied in this context where normally wouldn't be able to retreat under the cover of law or legalese. Right. Sort of explain away what actually happened.
Starting point is 00:36:52 I mean, if you remember my great poem, I just did like these alabaster temples that are stained with blood. Yeah. We just don't want, they're like, Oh my God, can you imagine the paperwork involved?
Starting point is 00:37:04 If we admit we're, we're a racist country. No, we can't deal want, they're like, oh my God, can you imagine the paperwork involved if we admit we're a racist country? No, we can't deal with that. Too much, man. If it's really bad, then yeah. If they don't know how to stick to the script and keep it low, then yeah, sure, we'll do that to create some semblance of justice. But that's not what this whole thing is. This whole thing is. And the other thing that was going on during this whole portion, again, even journalists and people who are observing the trial, they weren't even clear if any of this testimony from these experts was actually helping Chauvin at all.
Starting point is 00:37:47 They were more like, I think this is harming him because this stuff is so nonsensical. evidence that floyd was oxygen deprived because he didn't complain during the arrest of experiencing problems with his vision which would be indicative that you are you're being deprived of oxygen you would be seeing these spots little spots of light and things like and because george floyd only said i can't breathe right how do we know this he literally made this argument and when someone's trying to murder you you also have to treat them as your doctor oh you've slit my throat my carotid artery has been severed and therefore the blood loss like what the fuck give me like a virginia wolf style like stream of consciousness of literally everything you're experiencing uh otherwise i see but how am i supposed to know how am i these are the hoops all to avoid actually you know giving justice to somebody who's been
Starting point is 00:38:30 murdered is just to do all these fucking ridiculous hoops when before it's easy enough for a black person to get killed because he looked at somebody really uh-huh and again the defense is laughable because white supremacy is laughable you know i mean it doesn't hold up to any scrutiny the idea that because you are white you are owed things so when someone has to go up and try and essentially give some kind of quote medical counterpoint to what is just a clear hate crime that results in a death yeah you look it looks like absolute nonsense so i hope the jury is equally as disturbed as most people hearing this would be but well there there is one jury member who um apparently is a blue lives matter supporter and i think it's a female and i think she had another she had voiced at some point some issues she had
Starting point is 00:39:20 with black lives matter so i don't know how the fuck she got on there but she's yeah when she's in the mix interestingly enough because when they were looking for you know trying to select a jury poll they had to fill out surveys being like did you hold a sign during the summer what did say oh wow i wonder if she's like yeah i did said blue lives matter oh great i think i'd like to have a person well let's throw that in for a little spice that's all it takes you know unfortunately and that's why this it's that's why this shit is so frustrating because Well, let's throw that in for a little spice. That's all it takes, you know, unfortunately. And that's why this shit is so frustrating because black people are having to look time and again into the eye of this demonic system in this country to say,
Starting point is 00:39:56 what the fuck? We don't give a fuck. So can you tell us why you're protesting, though, today? Can you, like, put it in words and that's just more insidious because they should just be saying we don't give a fuck right i'm here because i have to i we need to appear a certain way but really we don't give a fuck and if you want if you want the proof look at the outcomes there's no justice for you yeah because we don't give a fuck well that's a that that recurrent thing where they're like i just don't give a fuck well that's that that recurrent thing where they're like i just don't
Starting point is 00:40:25 understand why people damage property and and and lose control it's just like for us to not have i don't know it's you know for people to not have they're like yeah if you were pushed to this point what the fuck would you do like how would you react we see how you like a lot of you people react to having a black kid walk through your neighborhood in South Carolina. You know, you lose all control and and, you know, jettison them short of, you know, murdering them. But it's like but there's no there's no identification with your with the other and that you know it is just like it's so insane and it's and it's so insane because it is insane it is a it is a dysfunctional way that we collectively are dealing with trauma ongoing trauma that we that we bring to one another over and over again you know i mean yeah it's cool but all in all pretty cool pretty cool stuff pretty cool uh let's talk about this house bill which you know progress that it's getting uh raised as a as a possibility at least we're making the republicans go on the record
Starting point is 00:41:42 and squash it yeah but i mean yeah yeah just the thing you know again as we're talking all the ills in this country especially in regards to racism we can draw a straight line to slavery and the fact that we have had no reckoning with it absolutely none just you know here's a month yes how about that okay and then other than that it's just crickets so you know for decades black lawmakers have been trying to advance legislation that would at the very least begin to formally analyze what needs to be done how we can right these wrongs and some legislation did just move out of committee um to do just that allowing for the formation of a commission to look at the impacts of slavery discrimination from fucking 1619 to now um and there figure out ways what we
Starting point is 00:42:33 need to alter in our educational system what are the solutions to to right all of the racist wrongs in the country and what kind of compensation should be offered on top of that considering the just the by design poverty that black people experience um so yeah a really great moment when we see those things but you always realize yeah i got out of committee where then it has to be voted on by these other fucking people in this country and we already have jim jordan saying spend 20 million for a commission there's already that's already decided to take money from people who were never involved in the evil of slavery and give it to people who are never subject to the evil of slavery. That's what Democrats on the Judiciary Committee Committee are doing. Oh, God. So that's that's about it.
Starting point is 00:43:19 You know, I mean, it'll get out of the House, but then the Senate. Like, right. mean it'll get out of the house but then in the senate like right like what the so again another moments too where i think even for people who are you know looking at politics enough you go yeah well that's a wrap or even black people looking at like okay fucking preparations no yeah that's that's the cynicism that we live with because i'm yeah and it's just i think a lot of people are underrating just how exhausting this is really becoming now uh like on top of everything else that it's truly it's like i don't know how long we can just keep asking nicely right you know and then be have just your face spit in
Starting point is 00:43:57 right yeah and um and still try and maintain your dignity or humanity throughout that and so uh shit i don't know what to do i mean like this is until we can we can solve issues like this of having these jim jordans and this minority rule in the country it's like how come there's fucking no one's gonna get anything they're old i wonder if they're i mean i wonder how much effect you know there's not immediate effect definitely like with this kind of thing it is like we're going to have a commission to vote on the possibility of mentioning that it could be. Yes. Right. Right. But if anything, you know, sort of like a glacial pace. with the Chauvin trial and Minneapolis and just this past year with BLM. And even, you know, recently with sort of like standing up for Asian, you know, rights and abuses and stuff. This is like the naive kind of like maybe white liberal hope part of me me or something but it's a little bit like okay
Starting point is 00:45:06 yeah i mean i i guess if anything we're just kind of like keep your keep doing it because if if it does get to a point you're like oh well we try we'll just like put it on the back burner for another 20 years yeah the next time it's going to be real bad but it's it's exhausting it is and like you said how much how much how much compromising of your dignity of of anyone's dignity and of just being traumatized over and over and over again how much can can really you stand yeah it's uh yeah i don't i don't know and i think you know unfortunately glacial pace is like the theme yeah this thing and yeah totally and because of that generations of people come and go without seeing anything change right so i don't that's the thing you know the people of color are technically a minority in this country so until the the tipping
Starting point is 00:45:57 point really has to come from other people in this country because every we all know what the fucking stakes are people in proximity to us who are allies know what the fucking stakes are but it's this whole other section of the country that has no interest in looking at this in any other way except their own denial to to maintain comfort yeah and to just avoid thinking that anything could be wrong in this country as well and to just excuse their own ignorance and it's not just the republicans either i mean by the i'm still can't get past biden in the aftermath of you know the first night of uh demonstrations in minneapolis saying that like we're waiting to see on like the initial murder of an unarmed, very young man,
Starting point is 00:46:47 but there's no excuse. The, the one thing that I can like say is automatically wrong is looting is just so frustrating. Well, because that's how he has to still wait, wag a finger at black people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Right. That's what it is that he can't, or else he's people. Yeah. Right. That's what it is. He can't, or else he's a race traitor. Right. Subconsciously, he's not willing to be a race traitor and say, that is absolutely wrong. This person needs to go to jail immediately. What we saw was an absolute hate crime. If you saw, they'd be like, oh, he sounds like a black person. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Because I don't hear white people talking like that. person right because i don't hear white people talking like that if they do they're like very radical activist people but not people in real positions of power because you you stand to be you know your perceived race traitor whatever the fuck it is but he you have to still have that position of like yeah that was bad but also remember who's in charge again i'm gonna let you know by saying that remember capitalism is about protecting capital and property not about people so yeah don't don't break any windows well the crazy thing is like he's sort of future trading any any positioning he might have for other you know i mean it is it's a little bit of a bargaining chip like well i can i could say this but then i would lose this move i could make later for this other thing just
Starting point is 00:48:10 the political aspect of sort of like yeah i think the the political triangulation shit is just old now because yeah like the the the the people that lose out are the ones that are actually at most risk while you wait to find out what the most efficient position is rather than going full stop on the side of humanity. I just also don't, I don't, I wish the Democrats would kind of learn like, okay, clearly the Republicans have established that there's a precedent, maybe based on our sort of social media, internet world we live in. And I was like, the half-life of scandal and what you've said, there'll be something else to replace it. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 00:48:51 He could have called this out, and somebody would be like, oh, my God, he's not one of us anymore. That's going to get swallowed up and would be elevated if it started the conversation like it just if it jumpstarted a little bit you need one very white celebrity to do something like that and spark the outrage like what's the problem what did i say that's wrong and i'm going to be the one to say what's the fucking problem with you the democrats triangulation like kind of reminds me it seems like it's of a piece with the what we're talking about on the journalism side of this like both sides in it and like triangulation okay so the republican side is this but the other side the people who are being murdered
Starting point is 00:49:36 on video uh while screaming i can't breathe are saying this so we have to like tip the elections in our favor every fucking time right so we have to like who tip the elections in our favor every fucking time right so we have to talk about both sides and it's like you know that the documentary 13th like the villain of that is like the clinton administration like the fucking and it's all well i am a democrat by name and so therefore i have to do these republican things to like confuse people into like both sides into supporting me and it's just like that shit is so far past i mean it should have never existed but what is like has harris had anything like i haven't because she was so sort of front and center on so many. I feel like anytime it was a statement from the president, it was also a statement from her.
Starting point is 00:50:28 But I haven't heard anything, you know, reaction or otherwise from her. Yeah. I mean, at that point. I've been emailing her and stuff. It's not right now. I mean, I think the thing was just sort of very milquetoast kind of like, you know, this is going to happen. I think what this is, is quote folks will keep dying if the country does not address racial injustice okay vice president harris
Starting point is 00:50:51 you got any fucking ideas right like what the fuck talk to old man joe but again this is why like it's that's why it's so disheartening too, because no matter who's in the office, there's just these, everyone is still cut from the same cloth of only rocking the boat to certain degrees. Yeah. No one's, no one's going to flip the table and the table flippers get fucking marginalized real quick. Yeah. That's just how the system, you know, that's how it protects itself. It's like, Oh, this person has big table flipping energy. To the sides you go.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Either that or they're now I feel like they kind of position is like, oh, that's that's just their brand. That's the bullshit that they're like putting out there that they're actually this person. Like there's there's a real point. I mean, it's always existed politics, but I feel now like there is a very poisonous sort of acknowledgement of like everybody's got their kind of brand everybody's got their sort of like persona you know the fact that they come at aoc is just like she's just coming she's just like leaning hard into this like 20 something kind of liberal you know trying to grab her base in that way and so it doesn't that huh you think that i do i mean i see is being performative with a progressivism i don't but i've heard people say you know that that there's an aware
Starting point is 00:52:12 there's that thing of like there you have to have an awareness of who you're speaking to but you also have i i think there's the cynical version is is that that they're like oh it's a performative thing like who who knows how genuine they are. And once we start to call that out in each other, then you just, then you cannot, it's hard to sort of invest any kind of hope and faith in collective efforts. You know what I mean? If we're mainly with our,
Starting point is 00:52:37 our leaders and stuff. I think that's why we have to ditch the notion that these people are going to do anything. Yeah. Yeah. Or, or not put yeah not put put the full onus on like oh they're here to save us you know yeah and i just even look at like the natural disasters that have occurred i hear more stories anecdotally about people in the community just helping each other than the fucking then fema coming through with some
Starting point is 00:52:59 oh completely you know what i mean like especially like in texas when things were completely fucked up like people were like fuck it we're gonna have to we're gonna help each other out yes there is government assistance but there's on some level yeah i think we we realize police aren't gonna fucking protect us and these politicians all they do is just fucking just do with their fucking stand-up sets and on the hill and we're like great cool let's go home i think you are describing libertarianism at work miles they're big they're bigger in the stand-up stuff yeah every every man for himself neighbors will take care of neighbors uh it's all good yeah you got this yeah now certain neighbors and by take care of uh i think you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I mean, shut the blinds and act like we're not home. Right. Right. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I approve this one.
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Starting point is 00:58:22 decided to abandon the goal of inoculating its entire adult population by year end. So there's been some pretty drastic responses. It is a one in seven million risk at this point in terms of fatality, which is about the same as being struck by a bolt of lightning. And for the at-risk group, women under 50, which is about the same as being struck by a bolt of lightning. And for the at-risk group, women under 50, it's about the same odds as overdosing on Tylenol in a given year. I had the thought today when I was getting... There's so many people lining up to get vaccinated that I was like, if there had been one person who died at this at this vaccine center, like I'd still probably take it because it's like otherwise society stops functioning.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Like you you need to just be willing to. I don't know. It seems like a very huge unwillingness to think about things in terms of like math and numbers and logic i can't understand if if they're if it's a big pharma self-protection thing or if it's a we don't want a mass hysteria reaction to happen where people like oh you can't get this one because it will cause a blood clot. And so it would just end up people being like. Well, too late for that, my friend.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Because the top post on Facebook about Johnson & Johnson. So I'll read you the. Are we saying that as if it's a news website? It is a news website. I mean, I know that's. So the top five are, I'll read you two through five. The top headline is. So two through five are CNN, ABC News, The New York Times and Fox News are the top five responses.
Starting point is 01:00:13 The number one in terms of interactions is a guy by the name of Anomaly. Anomaly. Yes. He is a news analyst and hip-hop artist the first oh go on the oh in anomaly is a zero uh he thinks the pandemic is a government a cover for government control and he's he's number one yeah i think he has a album with pete rock coming out pretty soon pete rock is also a news analyst and hip-hop artist with similar takes oh does he really oh pete rock is so for for all the washed hip-hop fans who
Starting point is 01:00:50 remember pete rock and cl smooth i reminisce over him when he didn't have an instagram account to send out his like ridiculous fake news shit but this guy this he this man who has no shirt on with the long hair long straight hair uh beard uh looking like a snack i have to say uh but no like just looking like the least uh trustworthy human uh dude looks like the least trustworthy person at a fucking music festival. Right. Yeah. You wouldn't buy drugs from this guy, but you will take his Johnson Johnson analysis. So in that vein of wildly untrustworthy people reporting on Johnson Johnson, Tuesday's episode of Tucker Carlson. Tucker claimed that the number of people who have had dangerous side effects from the shot is, quote, much higher without pointing to, you know, like any sources or evidence of any kind. And wildly speculated that none of the vaccines work. And they're simply not telling you that they're simply not telling you that and said there are reasons to believe the number of people who have suffered adverse side effects is much higher um there are reasons because the reasons are fear yeah the reasons are that is good for my ratings that's great great reason yeah uh later speculated that the
Starting point is 01:02:17 covid 19 vaccine doesn't work like i said so the other right-wing personality who has weighed in uh and i kind of love this is that donald trump uh has weighed in on something they're calling telegram i don't know if that is a social media uh outlet like a social media platform or if he just sent a telegram and that's trying to get that to catch on you know telegram do i we're gonna have a yeah it's an app it's okay you never messaged on telegram i don't think so okay no i'm old as fuck yeah it's all good yeah you guys use fax machine fax machines are great yeah jack's always like hey get me another roll of facsimile paper i'm like a roll of it remember that shit came on a roll anyway hey we're all here but he posted his theory that this is all like the government trying to help out uh pfizer because
Starting point is 01:03:15 who knows why but like literally nobody covered it it didn't make it that was a dt dt downtown dt down this donald t um interesting interesting i saw ivanka she got her shot and she posted on instagram and like all her followers were like so pissed uh oh really she was like thank you nurse torres everyone get your shot and let's be safe and like and it predictably, it's just stuff like, I have an immune system for that. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Okay. I have an immune system for that.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yeah. Looking forward to that. Going back to like the, my mother passed away. She got, she had breast cancer and then she beat it. cancer and then she beat it. And then she was on some supportive medication that had the 0.5%, you know, uh, recipients might have complications and she had complications. Right. So we knew, we didn't know that that would happen, but we, that is a, that is a component of, of taking that medicine. And I'm not saying that as sort of like, so it's all good.
Starting point is 01:04:32 I'm, you know, I'm fine with it because I'm not, but on this scale of what we're dealing with and on the scale of how small the risk is, I don't understand why they're just not saying percentage wise, here's the chance of this happening. Right. The decision is up to you, whether you want to do it or not, as opposed to just like pull it all out. So I don't know if that sort of, and it feels like them saying pull it all out really emphasizes that to me, it communicates like, well,
Starting point is 01:04:57 maybe we don't know what we're doing. Maybe this isn't working, you know? Right. Yeah, exactly. It does sort of feel like it creates a greater, it seeds more doubt than it would otherwise yeah i feel like i'm a i'm a ceo like sort of like and it doesn't matter
Starting point is 01:05:12 if these people die but it's not you know it's it's kind of uh i don't know yes we have to project strength yeah yeah but this is once again like one of the things with the with the market like running a society you can't have the market run a society because you have legal exposure you have like all these different things and it seems uh you know like like they don't know what they're doing yeah yeah and even when we were talking before like how obviously the we science isn't infallible because it's at the end of the day they're human beings engaging in the method of you know research and analysis and things are learned and unlearned and discoveries are made and assumptions are tested and so the fact that we still also just have this like weird relationship of like it's
Starting point is 01:06:02 either all right or it's all wrong. Also puts them in a weird spot where they're like, well, fuck. Like if we say that, then they're not going to fucking believe that. Now we've got this whole other information economy. That's like undermining any little mistake too.
Starting point is 01:06:17 So that's just to your benefit with someone being, uh, having a knee on their neck. Then, then you will, then you will want that sort of like doubt space that kind of fallibility
Starting point is 01:06:29 what was that a Ford Explorer exhaust pipe? you never know yeah but unfortunately yeah every little decision can be looked at in so many ways that it's either going to cause decision paralysis or just these like other just knee jerk response like pull it and then fuck let's also not really explain much and the
Starting point is 01:06:50 thing that'll just say is that we're pulling it as if it's like a bad batch of cookies that we can't sell anymore um yeah it's it's it's i don't envy their position at all yeah yeah i don't know how many people who have gotten it if it's sort of uh started a wave of like oh my god is it like how long until it starts to happen like is there a freak out happening around that because you know i know a bunch of people got the the j and j and they're like right so it's like they don't have to go back a second time i have to go back next week and i have to drive way far away because i scored one that was like in the in the boonies um and now you know but i literally have like well i'm glad i don't have to deal with that yeah you know that other version of it but yeah no it's definitely i mean it's not perfect anything of this size where you're like injecting
Starting point is 01:07:43 an entire population of people with something probably like there's going to be like it's shocking that there's not more like infections or you know like who knows somebody but that's how scared of needles like passes out and like hits their head like that yeah that's what's amazing is that like it's been this trouble free and that this has been the response to the one complication in the entire fucking country. Right. I'm always like the people who make the argument that it is a government effort to control people. They have no concept of fascism.
Starting point is 01:08:19 They have no they have no concept of like this. They have no concept of like, okay, so in a capitalist society, we're going to upend our economy and reduce our ability to be productive and reap the benefits of that so we can control people. And then once we've controlled them, we won't have anything to do. Right. To do. Yeah. I don't know. It's just, it's a very you know all of this for a level of control that is far less powerful than pokemon go like gave the whoever was in charge of
Starting point is 01:08:54 that i think it was the russians uh but you know it's we are uh now more than ever very easy to control and being controlled on a regular basis by the forces of the market yeah yeah and suddenly everyone's an expert on coercion and control uh with only by only thinking like if it's something i don't like it's the government takeover rather than like it's kind of already taken over have you noticed like you probably only buy everything you own from four places right like it's it's you just have to kind of change adjust your filter to actually see how little choice or freedom you have but we have you have consumer choice which has now been paraded around as freedom right like i sometimes wonder how much because like i talk about how like
Starting point is 01:09:41 i think a lot of white supremacists and people who you know do things that suggest that they believe in white supremacy like there's a cognitive dissonance there where they know it's a lie and they're like and that's like where some of the hate and then anger comes from is like they know they're not superior and like i do wonder on stuff like this where they're making up a conspiracy theory about control while living a life that is thoroughly controlled by just by a different thing that is like totally out of their control like if there's like a thing where they're there there's a part of them that knows that, it's just not the conscious part. Because when you look at models of consciousness, it's like 5% of our thoughts are things that we're aware of.
Starting point is 01:10:35 And the rest is just going on below the surface. And you're just not aware. And it can be complicated. It's not just like that's the lizard part of the brain it's like there are thinking forces that you're just like not aware of because like that you can only take in so much at a given time like i do wonder if like people are making up these conspiracy theories because it gives them like some sense of control while also uh at some level fully aware that like they they lack that control it's just the government controlling them
Starting point is 01:11:13 dude there's a lot of control right there yeah yeah shout out to the game control on play shout out to janet the jackson if you get control i was just thinking about that too i don't know i mean i think it is i i think on a subconscious level they know like they're what they're holding on to are just shreds of useless paper in the form of like their ideology but it's this like but the conspiracy thing yeah for sure like if you can articulate the conspiracy then on some level you're smarter than what's happening and you can at least explain right you're a distant or perceived oppression or whatever it may be and then that gives you it's like oh well you see you guys don't even know i know there was i had heard during during the uh i don't know in the past
Starting point is 01:12:02 year and i don't know the specific term for, but it was the takeaway was basically it's almost sort of like conspiracy validation that there is a that there is a feedback loop, a sort of pushes against the, what everyone else sees to be the truth, it reinforces the need for the truth that that person sees, the conspiracy theorist person sees. It's like a little, you know, it's like a little dopamine hit every single time it was like, no, no, I know the truth. I know because it, it, it gets in and they, they sort of spoke to it. It gets in a little bit of sort of like a martyrdom frame of mind. It gets a little bit into sort of like, it's definitely in control. Um, and it gets into sort of like, uh, um, it's a weird investment. It's like a sideways investment in hope. You know what I mean? Right.
Starting point is 01:13:04 But it's also in a weird way, it's a sideways investment in hope. You know what I mean? But it's also in a weird way, it's a sideways investment in hope. And it's also sort of like a really dark, comfortable place to be in. Yeah. Because as long as that, that threat is there, then you will,
Starting point is 01:13:18 then that person will have this sort of like the, the cause to fight for, you know, the purpose. And it's a, yeah purpose and it's a yeah and it's a construct there that offers them the most comfort for however they take the in the world so i mean i do think that the central lie that like everybody knows at some level they're telling themselves and like is aware of is that you are one of 7 billion people in the universe. And that that is like a, if you stop and think about that, that is a wildly insignificant feeling.
Starting point is 01:13:51 And so I think conspiracy theories and some of the things you guys are talking about, that makes you the center of the universe. Yeah, main character. That just like, suddenly you are the one who understands it. Yeah. And that's what the matrix is really about and like all these movies like star wars all the most popular movies are just like creating
Starting point is 01:14:11 an environment where for a second you can imagine a reality where you are not one of seven billion people you are actually the one most yeah literally the one and yeah our exceptionalism is this yeah it's fucked up it's toxic and now this feedback loop is just destroying it's like weird Yeah, literally the one. Yeah, our exceptionalism is... Yeah, it's fucked up. It's toxic. And now this feedback loop is just destroying it. It's like weird. Now we're seeing people have just completely mainlined that sort of way of thinking.
Starting point is 01:14:34 And it's allowed for no consideration of anyone except for yourself. And we don't have the spiritual background in Western culture that kind of leans into that thing. It's much better to be a part of a whole. To see yourself as like there's a continuity to that. We just lean against this like, no, I got to make my mark. I got to stand out. I got to sort of get what's mine. And it just freezes you.
Starting point is 01:15:04 There should be something liberating about knowing that there isn't all this pressure on you yeah yeah be the one that you are what's what separates you from an ant right you know you've walked you just so you know you walk around and you probably killed a ton of ants without even fucking thinking about it because that's just where shit is and the way we pass away or our lives it's the same it's just random and unfortunately that's freaky as shit but on the other side of it that can be very liberating if you can embrace this idea of that life is finite that it's precious that because it's precious you have so many things to have gratitude for but instead you want to just be like well i'm john mclean what the fuck kind of way you want to
Starting point is 01:15:46 live like that fuck that i want to be someone in the background i don't have the pressure on them to fucking be whatever just be you that and that's good enough all of these police shootings uh that were just you know hearing about every day like made me think about like whether that whether that mentality of like wanting to be the protagonist in a story is like like the the 16 year old boy who was killed because he had an air pellet gun and uh in maryland uh the like that it just there there seems to be so many opportunities for de-escalation, but there's just this desire to, I feel like, just make yourself like this. That's kind of the most dramatic way that you can sort of enact your importance like as opposed to other people is by killing one of them i have i have a like a memory of my dad at a point when things were not good for him and he he had some problems when there was a there was a moment where as those things were happening, he descended into this period of time when he would just watch Clint Eastwood movies by himself and Westerns.
Starting point is 01:17:14 And he completely disappeared into this like fantasy fulfillment place in themselves. And, you know, some things kind of came out sideways around that time and you know hearing this again it just reminds there's so many people who who have the opportunity especially now like i had with with the internet and stuff to spoon feed yourself this kind of like narrative that right that that will quiet whatever discomfort you're having inside yourself with yourself with this other thing. And then the cool thing is you can take it out to the streets and act it out in real life.
Starting point is 01:17:53 And maybe somebody will film it and then maybe you'll get posted and even negative attention. That makes you a more important one of seven billion. And if you're lucky, you become a meme. Hey, that is is that's how we live on look at me ma i'm a racist meme i'm a meme look i'm a meme me me me me me uh brian as always such a pleasure having you where can uh people find you and follow you? Hey, you know, followers sounds so culty, but if my minions want to engage in the truth, I'm on Instagram at TheBrianHusky. I'm on Twitter, TheBrianHusky. Don't do much there.
Starting point is 01:18:35 And then, of course, they can find myself and Charlie Sanders at Bald Talk. Yeah, yeah. Also on iHeartMedia. Yeah, yeah. Wonderful show. This week we got, can I say who we have this week? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I Heart Media. Yeah. So yeah, this week we got, can I say who we have this week? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's, it's already, uh, Ed Helms who has hair. What? But that does not mean he does not.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And he reveals that he has been wearing a toupee this whole time. He takes his toupee off on the episode? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, fuck you, Brian. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:00 He's like, yeah, yeah. Charlie just repping always hard, be like, kick that fucking toupee. He's got a weird sideways hair loss pattern. That's like, yeah. Charlie's just repping always hard, like, kick that fucking toothpaste. He's got a weird sideways hair loss pattern that's just, it's hard to wrap your head around.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Sideways. Wait, so how does, what's Ed Helms' relationship to the Baldiverse? We wanted to sort of talk to someone who had a great head of hair about their struggles with having hair and issues around that. And you bring out the tiniest violin.
Starting point is 01:19:28 Totally. But we did find out that he's got a weird fatty lump on the back of his head. So he can never shave his head. Cause he might reveal that he's got this, uh, you know, this hidden twin growing out of the back of his head. It's like,
Starting point is 01:19:39 it's like really loose, like a little water balloon. Yeah. A little. Scrotum. I told him if he'd just masturbate more, because that's where all the sperm is. That's where all it goes. I was like, no, Dr. Kellogg said no.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Yes. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? No. All right. I don't know if that really kills your segment. It doesn't. It's fine. Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 01:20:02 That's not true. I'm 52, guys. I don not true. I'm 52 guys. I don't care. I'm old and things that are gentle, make me happy. Now there I've been following a bunch of nature accounts. So if you want, just looking at animals helps just watching animals,
Starting point is 01:20:17 be cute, do it. If you get stressed out, that's what I've been doing. It's like, Oh, look at that bunny. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying?'s like oh look at that bunny oh my god miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying i like twitter i like instagram and i am there at miles of gray and then the other podcast 420 day fiance that's on twitch and also as a podcast uh a tweet that i like you know i like i like two first one's from reductress just says how to walk away from your parked car without locking it five times because literally i'm a multiple locker yeah i like to lock it up i like to see the lights go off if i don't see the lights go off i will have to do it again yeah my car used to make a like beep sound when it was locked and now it just is like once you lock it yeah where am i getting my does it if you double click it does it honk that's what no it doesn't it doesn't oh that's not good
Starting point is 01:21:13 way too much respect for me no you might have to you might have to be on the lookout guys i'll be right back yeah uh another one from uh chauncey sugar sweetsets at C Sugar Sweets tweets. I like how Ben and Jerry's has all but had a flavor called Fuck Cops Fudge for 40 years, but conservatives just realized like today that it's owned by two libs,
Starting point is 01:21:34 so they're shitting their pants. Right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Core Y at Soldier Boy 69. Nice. Tweeted. Bartending. Him. Cor Y at SoldierBoy69, nice, tweeted. Bartending.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Him, can I get a pina colada? Me, yeah. Him, can you make it virgin? Me, starting to cry. Yes, I know how to make it. And then there is somebody tweeted a breaking news thing. A CDC panel wants time to assess the Johnson & Johnson vaccines potential risk and they tweeted why is ACDC is deciding this stuff and I like that uh you can find us on
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Starting point is 01:22:56 And like it looks like it's like the musical equivalent of like burying your head in the sand of like the world's ills which i just love when you can nail that sound but then on top of it you got the platter speaking japanese it's called i know paradise okay by the platters and it's on this album called tokyo 1980s victor edition of just like this era when japanese artists were appropriating that sound like you wouldn't believe all right well we suggest you go check that out the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's going to do it for this morning we're back this afternoon to tell you
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