The Daily Zeitgeist - Cheater Sues Apple For Snitching, America NEEDS Immigrants 06.20.24

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

In episode 1695, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian behind the comedy special Live From the Big Dog, Blair Socci, to discuss… Biden: 1 For Them 1 For You, America Is In Desperate Need Of More Imm...igrants, Cheating Husband Wants To Sue Apple Because His iPhone Had Receipts On It and more! Biden: 1 For Them 1 For You America Is In Desperate Need Of More Immigrants Do Immigrants and Immigration Help the Economy? Benefits of Immigration Outweigh the Costs New HHS Study Finds Nearly $124 Billion Positive Fiscal Impact of Refugees and Asylees on the American Economy in a 15-Year Period New data shows why the U.S. needs more immigrants The census shows the US needs to increase immigration — by a lot U.S. birth rate drops to record low, ending pandemic uptick Why Legal Immigration Is Nearly Impossible Why the U.S. immigration system is strained and unable to handle record number of migrants Record 3 million cases clog U.S. immigration courts A New Challenge for Asylum Seekers: Lawyer Shortages Cheating Husband Wants To Sue Apple Because His iPhone Had Receipts On It LISTEN: Cinnamon Temple by Hiatus KaiyoteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 how you been blair yeah have you been i've i've been well i think um yeah i no way to know really but yeah hey check in with your body really quick let's check in with our bodies let's see where miles you know me well oh hell yeah. I mean, I know a planet. Yeah, you got to go neck down is how you really feel. Let's bring our consciousness below our necks now. Let's really breathe in that light into our chest. And let's just exhale all that negativity, all that stress. Let it come out with this breath.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Let's do it for seven seconds. Let it drain down through the bottom of your feet, through the floor. Blair, what's the calming breath? Like seven, like the number of seconds in versus out. Isn't there like a strategy? Box breathing? Yeah. You're talking box breathing, bro?
Starting point is 00:00:56 What is that? It's like four, six, six or six, six, six or some shit like that. Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah, dude. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
Starting point is 00:01:20 That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:01:47 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 343 episode 3 of production of iheart radio we were practicing some box breathing i forgot to inhale before i started this one box
Starting point is 00:02:58 breathing this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness what is the statement yeah what it is hasn't changed okay weird it's thursday june 20th 2024 happy birthday to my friends chris and jose uh this is the time of year when my wife and a bunch of my best friends were all born right around each other it's the time of the year that makes me believe in, is it astrology? Is that the thing that I don't actually believe in? Yeah, and true love. True love. Could you see yourself spending your life with those friends?
Starting point is 00:03:37 Like as life partners? Yeah, yeah. Like in another dimension? Does that work? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, I like that as a rom-com. Very unhappily married to both of those friends by the way just a nightmarish marriage but uh love both of them chris and hofer
Starting point is 00:03:52 well uh it is uh juneteenth plus one so shout out to everybody uh yesterday that got time off uh but also june 20th is national hike with a Day. I don't know what the fuck that means. I don't even want to look up. Queen Amman. That's like a pastry. K-O-U-I-G-N-A-N-A-N. I thought you were mispronouncing queen. Queen Amman. Queen.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Queen. Am I queen, dude? National Ice Cream Soda Day. I know about that. Oh, hell yeah. National Vanilla Milkshake Day. Yeah, throw that in a fascist's face today. National American Eagle Day. I know my bad. National Vanilla Milkshake Day. Yeah, throw that in a fascist's face today. National American Eagle Day.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Fucking hell, man. National Seashell Day. Oh, of course. It's because it's also the first fucking day of summer. You're welcome. Hey, look at that. Yeah, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Throw those pants away or cut them into shorts. Unzip your cargo pants that turn into shorts like take the bottom leg sleeves off do you really have some of those hell yeah i do bro i'm a dad hell yeah all right they're stylish though they're like baggy you know okay bro cool no i believe you no oh you got them right there huh yeah and what do you do when you take the leg sleeves off do you repurpose those for nice oh the leg sleeves off? Do you repurpose those for? Oh, the leg sleeves. I like to do upside down because there's elastic at the hem.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And then I cuff that right below my knee. So it looks like I'm wearing like bell, like big boots. You know what I mean? But you don't wear the top part of the pants. Oh, I reverse the sleeve and I hang them down for extra swag. They look like long stockings. Yeah, no, that sounds them down for extra swag they look like long stockings yeah no that sounds like extra extra swag uh anyways my name is jack o'brien aka i want a mouse in the morning a rat in the evening thick like me i want a busty beaver that can satisfy me just for me if you are a rodent man because i'm a rodent girl i got a cheesy secret everybody's
Starting point is 00:05:49 saying because i'm a fuck a rodent that's a thing uh that is courtesy of cleo universe one to the two to the two to the three girl bugs bunny would you like to get freaky with me uh because girl bunny also a rodent yeah wait really wait bunnies are rodents bunnies are rodents yeah oh i guess it's like anything rodent anything that's just kind of like mobbing around a city is a rodent because i remember like in minneapolis there were so many bunnies and i was like look and everyone's like yeah it's minneapolis dude there's fucking bunnies everywhere when i look up bunny rodent are rabbits rodents under rodentia it is good oh god damn it i was really close to being yelled at by rodent twitter twitter yeah i know i know anyways courtesy of cleo universe in reference to the rodent man the new trend in hotness in reference to jack it says they do
Starting point is 00:06:46 not include rodentia does not include rabbits what because they have an extra pair of incisors fuck and other skeletal features i'm really sorry to break yeah sorry sorry all right well i quit yeah all right well i should yeah you can take it from here yeah all right, well. I should, yeah. You take it from here. All right, well, where was I? Well, Jack's gone. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Hey, it's Miles Gray. Don't go drinking Freedom 2-0. Stick to Kirkland brand or Arrowhead that you're used to.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Not sure why does Sonny taste so bad. Just don't try it at all. Liu Kang's the one that killed Sub-Zero. Listen to me. Shout out Peanutty Brown on the Discord combining the Freedom Flow story and then also
Starting point is 00:07:40 I fucked up my Mortal Kombat movie reference where I said Johnny Cage killed Sub-Zero with a bucket of water. It was actually Liu Kang. So thank you to Zeitgang always keeping me honest with my Mortal Kombat film reference. And that's important. You know, they keep us honest. And we appreciate you guys for it.
Starting point is 00:07:57 That's how we facilitate trust here. Well, Miles, in our third seat, a TDZ Hall of Famer, one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a brilliant stand-up comedian you've seen all over these United States on the TV, MTV, Comedy Central,
Starting point is 00:08:17 NBC, TruTV, E! Fuse, all the TV channels. Her first hour special live from the Big Dog is hilarious and a must watch. It's Blair Saki. Yeah. Oh, what's up, Zyke Games? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:08:35 God, it is so good to be back. You know, seeing you guys, I really miss you. And it just feels like a nice family. Like I'm putting on an old shoe. Like your favorite old shoe. Just so comfortable. Just one shoe. Just so comfortable.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Just so joyful. I was like, dang, I really miss Jack and Miles. It just feels great. Great to be back. And we missed you. And it's great to have you back. Being compared to an old shoe is cool. I love it.
Starting point is 00:09:02 I love being compared to an old shoe. But the good one. That's what I aim to embody. Like the best old shoe. cool. I love it. I love being compared to an old shoe. But the good one. That's not what I aim to embody. Like the best old shoe. Yeah. Yeah. Our skin is leathery like an old shoe. No, not like your skin.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Just bull shit. Like spiritually. No. I should have said teddy bear. That would have been weird if I said teddy bear. Like an old teddy bear. Yeah. With the hair in patches.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Like every time I put on my dirty Converse, I feel, I'm like, oh, I feel great. I feel like myself. I feel good. Yeah. I have, like, a bad hoodie that I wear like that. Got some old box. Or old underwear. I got old underwear.
Starting point is 00:09:38 No, don't bring old underwear into this. That's not the direction. I mean, they're clean. I just meant, like, it's in a way where you're like, damn, yeah. Blair, we hate ourselves. We can't take a compliment without turning it into a metaphor about old skid marked underwear.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I ain't shit stained underwear. Oh, no, I get what you're saying. I'm a, I got shit stains down my back. I get it. I smell like four month old piss, right? Yeah, yeah. That's me falling apart at the seams. Yeah, yeah. No, I read the seams I read you I read you Blair
Starting point is 00:10:07 How have you been What have you been up to What have I been up to gosh I've just been mobbing around I just started my first tour So I'm doing that Which is exciting You're all over these
Starting point is 00:10:23 United States Kansas City coming up Yeah I got Kansas City baby is exciting. Yeah. You're all over these United States. I know. You referenced earlier. Kansas City coming up? Yeah, I got Kansas City, baby.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Baby. Our nation's capital, Washington, D.C.? Not my nation's capital. My nation's capital is Mar-a-Lago, but... It's Kansas City. Some nation's...
Starting point is 00:10:39 It's Kansas City. Yeah. I was like, yeah, our nation's capital, Kansas City. KCc it's very clean there kansas city's clean yeah like i find it you know because we live in la it's not a very clean looking and so when i go to some of these very like buttoned up manicured midwest cities it's
Starting point is 00:11:01 always shocking to me you know i'm like wow, they're very nice here. Yeah. DC also shockingly clean. Yeah. Yeah. They have an actual downtown Kansas City. Yeah. It's kind of cool. What do you mean? Like old buildings with like old tall buildings, I feel like. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:20 We're in LA. That was made in 1998. I guess that's most towns except for L.A. That's true. I'm just like, wowee. Our old buildings. It's also weird, too. Like, there are some legit historical sites in L.A., but they're, like, they're just hidden in a way you wouldn't notice.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Like, across the street from Universal. They're all in, like, people's houses. They're like, yeah, that's where they recorded pet sounds. I like to go to Musso and Frank. That place rules. Then I feel like very vintage and cool. Like I'm going to make some sort of mob business deal. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Is that place known for, is that like a steakhouse? Or is it like an Italian restaurant? Yeah, it's a steakhouse. It's like a little bit above. Actually really close to our offices. Yeah, it's really close to. It's right on Hollywood Boulevard. And the waiters are like
Starting point is 00:12:05 150 years old and they all wear tuxedos and and they serve you like and there's all these things on the menu that like don't it from way back when that don't exist anywhere else like like i don't know gelatin or like odd clarified milk punch, just like I can't even think of them, but yeah, like funny old dishes that don't... And we serve our filet mignon in a lime jello mold. Yes, and they have excellent martinis and, you know, your boy loves
Starting point is 00:12:36 a martini. Yeah. I do. I don't know why I said I've heard that before, but that word is not out on the street. I can only handle one drink of alcohol and I get absolutely smashed. I'm like the biggest lightweight. There can only be one. Yeah. All right, Blair. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Joe Biden is triangulating like a madman he's he's doing the one for them one for you and he he did a good one he did a good miles it seems like for one for them where it ends up being net zero but yes this is yeah this is a time where he did one for a positive thing in terms of immigration. Yes. Yeah. So we're going to talk about that and just immigration in general. Turns out it should be the easiest argument for Democrats, the left, liberals even to make.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And they're just not making it. They're not even trying. The mainstream media. I this might be the most baffled I've been at the mainstream media. And reading this research. In days. Absolutely in days. Shocking.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But yeah, the fact that they haven't made a better case for immigration is pretty surprising to me. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the guy who got caught cheating and is suing Apple for getting him caught. Yep. Exactly. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Blair, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Nate Robinson jumped over Dwight Howard. I wanted to know what year it was. And in case any of you are wondering, it was 2009. It was for one of my jokes. I was like, did that happen? I couldn't remember. Did he wear a cape when he did that? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Or did Dwight Howard wear a tiny-ass cape in one of his? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But. Yeah. But I was like, yeah, I was wondering about it because I had the joke about like small people jumping high. And I was like, didn't Nate Robinson jump over someone? I think it was Dwight Howard.
Starting point is 00:15:00 And then I was like, yeah, wow. I can't believe that happened. Crazy. Can you imagine? What a dunker. How tall is Nate Robinson? 5'8". Is he really 5'8"?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Yeah. That's crazy. He's a little, little baby guy. Or of average height. Spud Webb was 5'7", when he won the dunk contest. Spud Webb also in the joke. Everyone knows how old I am just from these references. I'm going to make a Spud Webb reference.
Starting point is 00:15:34 To the youth today, they think that's a potato covered. Like the spiders really fuck with. But no, that was a basketball joke. They're like, who the hell is Spud Webb? And you can use that potato spiders joke in your... That's free material for you. That's free, Jack. hell is Spud Webb? And you can't use that potato spiders joke in here. That's free material for you. That's free to ask. That is generous of you.
Starting point is 00:15:50 That was mine. What the hell is this? That was my terrible joke. What is something that you think is underrated? Okay, guys, if you must ask, I'm going to tell you. Not enough people are talking about the 1994 film angels in the outfield with danny glover and joseph gordon levitt wow it's just so good and having christopher lloyd as the wacky angel like i i just watched it on a plane recently saw my
Starting point is 00:16:21 goddamn eyes out what a heart expanding story of hope and upliftment. Damn. And then when he also, surprise, adopts JP, like the literalist, the cutest kid I've ever seen in my life. Couldn't believe it. And then also to see like the bit parts of the early launching pad careers of Matthew McConaughey, Adrian Brody, Tony Danza. What? Tony Danza launched his career. No, I mean.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Wait, it had Adrian Brody and Tony Danza? Yeah, but they had really small parts. And it was like, yeah. And it was just a delight and incredible. Why have we forgotten? Why don't we have more sports movies with angels mixed in amazing right is it is the story that like did a team plane like go down or something why there's so many angels in the outfield for this okay this was another shocking thing because like
Starting point is 00:17:19 i have had a lifelong attraction to dermot muloney, which I just failed to mention. He is the deadbeat dad that causes all these issues. And he says to Tiny... We'll get together, right? Oh yeah, he says to Tiny little Joseph Gordon-Levitt, the child, he says like... Tiny Joseph Gordon-Levitt, the child,
Starting point is 00:17:39 which is my rap name. He says, you know, if the angels win, then we can be like a family again what a horrible thing we'll get together yeah wait what he's like i'll be your dad a lot of money riding on it or something is that no he's just like no he's just like no because there was no way because the angels were so bad so we basically like if the win, then I'll be your dad again. So then, of course,
Starting point is 00:18:07 little baby Joseph wouldn't love it. He's praying, praying, praying for the angels to win, thinking that it's going to come true and he's going to get his dad back. So then the angels arrive to make them win. So they answer little kid prayers
Starting point is 00:18:19 if they're sad and pathetic enough. If your parents have voices on the line. But then they got him a different dad so i don't know yeah so it's not i don't know why i associated angels with ghosts angels aren't ghosts right in a way they are i don't think you're too far off they're like like incredible beings in city of angels was nicholas cage a an eternal being who had never been alive or was he like a dead guy? Anybody remember? We had a real run in the 90s of angel movies, huh?
Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah, we loved angels. I just saw this movie again in the last year also on the plane. Wow. You know my passion for the metaphysical. Yeah, angels on planes for you. Whenever you're on a plane, you're like, God,
Starting point is 00:19:05 I get an angel flicking. Yeah. Well, I'm like, I'm probably pretty close to them up here. You know, maybe I should look over on the wind. They're just reading the paper.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Just hold it up. Yeah. It's a good movie. I loved it. I love this. I love those movies. Michael, the John,
Starting point is 00:19:23 John Travolta movie, which I don't know anything other than joe would have john travolta was an angel though oh my god i also watched that movie did you wow you really are an angel freak for the angels huh i didn't realize how many of these i've watched in the last year did you even see el Angel? No, I've never seen that one. Is that good? No, it's not. Oh, okay. It's not. And it barely has nothing. It was like a sort of title of the character. Have you watched the Bone Thugs
Starting point is 00:19:54 and Harmony Crossroads video lately? Not lately. I can't say I have, but I can do it after this podcast. That's no problem. I can fire it right up. There's an angel with big old wings big old honkers i do have a recollection of that from my childhood actually touched by an angel so producer justin is pointing out touched by an angel was a big 90s
Starting point is 00:20:20 oh yeah i watched the shit out of that on channel 4 cable as a child you know i was like maybe if i watch them they'll come to my room so were you was that like an obsession of yours when you're a child did you like when you were in school were you like drawing angels and shit i mean like no it's not just angels and it really hasn't stopped like i it's been consistent as every year of my life, but I just have a lot of interest in like what could possibly be. And like God, like, I don't know what God is, but like I pray a lot and like, I love the idea of angels. Like, I don't know if it's real or whatever. I also love like fantasy shit, like witches and magic and wizards and things like that. Even though I'm a jock and very cool and not nerdy at all so it's confusing do you think if you were an angel like
Starting point is 00:21:10 in a child made like a sports prayer like it would have to be like volleyball based for that way you're like i got this one i can handle this one not at all like i don't even feel too large of a tie to volleyball although i love that sport but no i'm not like volleyball is supreme sport you know well i'm saying as an angel if you're giving your expertise to like hey man anybody do baseball up here no um all right we got another kid who's praying to that his family reunites if they can win this beach volleyball tournament anybody they they need a defensive specialist yeah you know miles you pose an excellent query as always i think i would have to go with the child who you know needed me most really but that's just sort of the type of heart
Starting point is 00:21:51 i have i get that i appreciate that you're humble jim and uh highway to heaven any highway to heaven takers which one is that so that was that was the 80s. That was probably before your time. That was a show, wasn't it? That was a show where it was like, what if the guy you see hitchhiking on the highway is actually Angel, though? And the guy was Michael Landon, who was a very handsome man in his 40s and 50s. That sounds right up my alley. Might have to check that out also.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Yeah, worth a shot. What's something you think is overrated? Oh, well, thank you for asking, Jack. And look, I know I'm risking a lot right now, turning into a heel right off the jump, but I have never cowered to the masses. I do not conform. And with that being said, Doritos are not good feel free to spam me with
Starting point is 00:22:47 your doritos outrage i won't feel it because i know the truth so strongly in my heart and um also in-n-out fries are objectively bad but i do love their burgers so i continue to eat there with regularity correct okay doritos in- and out thing, that's fine. The Doritos, though, is it just overall, every flavor? Is it the chip? Is it the flavoring? What are we hating about the Doritos? You know, I just, like, I really think that I have the finger on the pulse for food.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I believe that with every depth of my being. I love a kettle chip i love i love cheddar sour cream ruffles like i like i like lays doritos like their flavors just they taste too synthetic to me i don't know they just never done it for me i'm not into it i like a sun chip i like a kettle chip kettle chip incredible probably number one love a kettle chip Doritos not for me how do you feel about Pringles you go Sunchip over I love Pringles I'm a fucking freak for Pringles wow anytime I have a writing deadline I'll get two canisters and I say this is your treat bitch now do your work you know and I'll put down two the next day my head will be swollen up like a basketball it'll be worth it from all the sodium from all the sodium yeah that's something that i didn't realize was real until i like hit you know a
Starting point is 00:24:09 certain age and then i was like oh yeah my face just is like so puffy after i eat chips yeah oh i eat 700 of my daily sodium the slogan for pringles is so genius though because like gun to my head i could not be able to just have like a third of a can like i have to eat the whole can and i do it with ease yeah with without even noticing that the whole thing went down it's just so incredible addictive amazing one can't you out here being toucan sam at a time that was vulnerable for me to share to Sam. It's funny. Last week, I came out and said Pringles were overrated. And I got a bit of a response, too, from a lot of
Starting point is 00:24:50 people who were very hurt. I was like, this is not a chip, man. It's like pressed together potato paste in chip form. Oh, they're so good. But with that being said, I welcome the Doritos hate. I know there's a lot of Doritos. The people ride hard for Doritos. I mean, it's just the leading tortilla chip brand in America.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I mean, I guess you do have your finger on the pulse of tortilla chips. Because, I mean, Tostitos doesn't even, they're not even doing a third of the business. Miles, you're a little bit misguided on your chip takes. But nevertheless, I don't think it's going to affect our friendship at all. No, it won't. It won't. Yeah. We see, I mean, because we're able to see the humanity in each other.
Starting point is 00:25:28 And I think that's what friendship is about despite our terrible taste i do think doritos are objectively evil i think they are i like i think so i think they are the pinnacle of food science or like one of the pinnacles of food science and in that i am unable to stop eating Doritos once I start eating Doritos. I also think they are underrated as a conveyance of, so I think Doritos Locos Tacos are great. And I think eating salsa with nacho cheese Doritos is actually fucking awesome. But I'm a, I'm a freak like that as i mentioned m.i.a. can you know how to really if you want to really freak it you do that like shitty canned salsa with cream cheese and then you eat that with a dorito and you're eat that with a dorito and yeah oh you might be grabbing me there see that's something i could get behind minus the dorito have you ever done that
Starting point is 00:26:22 no i mean i like to like, I like to, like, I feel like in LA, like when I say something like cream cheese, any cream cheese added to anything like is just incredible, you know? Like you can mix it with literally, it's just amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It really is. But I do appreciate that you acknowledge the inherent evil of Doritos. And maybe that was what I spiritually sense about them. You were just sensing that, yeah, they're basically the successor, the spiritual successor to the cigarette industry. Is what I think they are. Let's go! Yeah!
Starting point is 00:27:01 They are here to kill us. And they've done a pretty good job for a couple decades. Miles just showed a bag of open Doritos. Sorry. Sorry, not sorry. It's the little snack bags. And guess what? I can't just have one of those little lunch bags.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Gotta have at least two. Because they have drugs in them. They do. They are drugs. Yeah. They do. They are drugs. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. Get our bearings.
Starting point is 00:27:30 We're going to do some box breathing. We're just going to center ourselves. We're going to put our attention, all of our being, below the neck, from the neck down. All right. We're going to just inhale, exhale.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And when we exhale, we're going to exhale all our stress stress it's going to run down through our body down through our legs down through the bottom of our feet through the floorboards into the earth into the earth drop into your heart down to hell where it belongs sorry was that too much down to hell made of doritos send your stress down to hell. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers
Starting point is 00:28:45 have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring
Starting point is 00:29:02 these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
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Starting point is 00:31:21 And we're back. We missed you. Bye. Oh, hi. Miles. What the fuck? You said bye. I thought we're back. We missed you. Bye. Oh, hi. Miles, what the fuck? You said bye. I thought we were over. You just threw me off with the bye.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Hi. Well, let's talk. Speaking of bye, he didn't. Speaking of bye, Joe Biden. That's what you were saying. You were just trying to get started on this next story. What's he up to this time, Miles? What is this rascally rabbit up to? It's been a, you know, Joe Biden's presidency has been a lot,
Starting point is 00:31:51 like recently a lot of one for them being the GOP and one for you, the, the, the left or democratic base or people who thought the world could be a better place. Um, but yeah, Biden hasn't really done much to differentiate himself from Trump, you know, when it comes to immigration, like he left a lot of policies in place from Trump's administration and even like altered some of them a bit. And then he really pissed off his own supporters by appeasing Republicans and cracking down on the number of asylum seekers that can enter the country. Well, I guess Biden decided that now, or at least on Monday, which was the anniversary of the DACA program from Obama, is the day he will announce a policy that is the biggest push to grant amnesty to undocumented immigrants since Obama's DACA program in 2012. So what does it do?
Starting point is 00:32:39 It essentially gives a path to apply for permanent residence to undocumented people and their children that are married to U.S. citizens. So basically anyone, undocumented spouses, stepchildren of U.S. citizens can apply. This is around 500,000 spouses and about 50,000 of their stepchildren that could be eligible for this new program. And these people do have the opportunity to apply for permanent residence already by being married to an American. But if you've entered the country without proper legal permission and stay for over one year, you have to leave the U.S. and stay abroad for at least 10 years before you can actually apply for permanent residence. So, again, this means that families don't have to be broken up despite their immigration status, which is a great thing. And to qualify for the program, non-citizens must, as of June 17th, have been living in the U.S. for at
Starting point is 00:33:31 least 10 years and have been married to a U.S. citizen before that date. And the administration, they've, they estimated that the average time that applicants have spent time in the U.S. is 23 years. So this isn't the kind of like immigration bill where Republicans can claim that like the borders are open. But obviously that will not stop them because nothing is about fact. And it's just about cranking up the xenophobia before the election. So, yeah, a bit of good news, despite the last thing that that came out of the administration regarding immigration. So they're addressing for people who are married to somebody who aren't actually allowed. Because if you get married to an American, that doesn't automatically make you a U.S. citizen. I thought that did. I thought that this whole time. u.s citizen i thought that did well you know you're able to this whole time you can apply but if your legal status was not like if you didn't have the proper permission to be in the united
Starting point is 00:34:30 states then that would cause people to have to exit the country for 10 years for 10 years is so crazy like i thought i thought it was gonna be like okay go back and then come back and you're good but no yeah you're you're good you just need to leave the country for 10 years. TV shows, like every TV show is like, oh, he married her for a green card. Yeah, yeah. But you could do that if you can't. Let's say you had a visa to come in
Starting point is 00:34:55 and during that time, you were actually allowed to be in the United States and got married. So you're legally here in the US. That's what 90-day fiance is. Yeah, exactly. That's the 90- fiance is. Yeah, exactly. The 90 day visa that allows you to date like mad and hopefully find a spouse. And then from there, you're usually like in a very long process to get, you know, your green card or permanent resident status and things like that.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But this will allow people to work and do other things. So it's, you know, it's not as disruptive. And a lot of people wouldn't go through to apply for permanent residence because they would have to leave for 10 years i'm like why the i have fucking kids and shit i can't do that so yeah yeah this is a little win tiny wins small victories and also helps there's also some streamlining of the laws for uh people in the daca program but yeah this was a i'm surprised that on the front page after the NBA Finals. Of course, Boston Celtics get a front-page drudge report. It's a win for us Bruins, you know, because of Drew Holiday.
Starting point is 00:36:14 But God. Drew Holiday is the man, man. I love Drew Holiday. I don't even know why I hate the Celtics at this point. I know why. I like their players. I just, the team, something about it. It's anti-Lakers, inherently that's i mean that's yeah we have a we have a just a lifelong we can't handle it here yeah seeing
Starting point is 00:36:31 that they have one more banner than us so yeah i've already received plenty of dunks on the internet already from my yeah an 18th banner but hey we accept it and we breathe through it yeah and we breathe through it the last time the the Celtics won, the last five Celtics championships were followed immediately by at least one Lakers championship. Okay, let's go! Let's go! A record that will soon be broken. Exactly, yes. Because they're not good.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Not with this team. Not with these owners. Probably not with these guys that's sad though like i you know everyone on twitter was like trending saying it was the worst mbh like championship game ever but there is something i mean it's great for the the winning team but for the viewer like a blowout is just like not fun yeah yeah and no exactly as the ratings are way down i feel like people generally don't like the celdics so when the celdics are doing good when the cell when things are good for the celdics america is losing celdics win america loses uh just keep that in
Starting point is 00:37:39 mind nba and the referees i'm just saying guys help on the on the thing with the immigrants i was just gonna say like i guess the important thing is the numbers right they're putting up numbers 500 000 spouses 50 000 of their stepchildren could be eligible that's the thing i just from a political perspective again it feels like a lot of people are probably like, wait, I thought those people already had like access to legal immigration. Anyways, I do want to just talk about immigration in general, because there's just all of this evidence that immigration is just a win. It's like win, win, win, like wins all the way down for America if they would just let it happen. And the thing that has been happening is that both sides have been, you know, bowing to racists and like racist fear. But like, if you just I don't know why this point isn't being made more consistently. Like, it seems to help all the things that like conservatives claim to care about, like the economy. Like it's, it's not just that the U.S. can handle more immigrants. We desperately need
Starting point is 00:38:57 more immigrants. Like the, it's the thing that drives the U.S. economy. Like anytime the U.S. It's the thing that drives the U.S. economy. Like, anytime the U.S. has, like, an uptick in economic success, it's usually because immigration is up. Right. Like, the right is always, like, so scared about, like, population growth and, like, well, like, the birth rate's going down, so we're fucked. And it's like, well, actually not if you just allow people to immigrate. And also, like, we're not fucked because the birth rate is going down. I was just going to say, what's bad with the birth rate going down?
Starting point is 00:39:38 It poses economic challenges that they really want to emphasize and be like, we're fucked, you guys. This is bad news. Yeah, maybe if you make it better. And also, a lot of billionaires are like like we need more people like it's a crisis like elon musk and like that's why you should fuck me yeah jeff bezos is obsessed he's like if we had more people born we could have more mozarts and more einsteins and things like that but the thing that they fail to like really acknowledge is like you need a level of stability for people to become mozarts or einsteins and if yeah and you don't even have enough days in the week to go visit all your kids so and by the way the last generation
Starting point is 00:40:15 of billionaires they were freaking out because the population was growing too much so like they just they just always want to have a thing to freak out about that allows them to speculate about getting rid of huge swaths of people or uh everybody fucking them in this case right but just like putting aside the moral responsibility the country has for safely welcoming migrants into the country like the so the non-partisan congressional budget office projected a smaller deficit and national debt than last year because of an unprecedented spike. Like, not unprecedented, but like just normal pre-pandemic levels of immigration. Like, it's the thing that is allowing the U.S. economy to bounce back is immigration going back to pre-pandemic levels. But if there's immigrants immigrants my wages go down
Starting point is 00:41:06 no that your wages actually go up like that's the other yeah it's good for like that's the there's just so many details of this argument that we've been hearing for fucking decades that just like aren't true and like the mainstream media has just been allowing like fox news to say them and not being like actually no it's the opposite of that right the immigrants boot so there's a study that shows immigrants boost the economy by sparking innovation driving up wages driving up wages like across the board as well as appealing to foreign investors, opening long-term export opportunities. So it's like all the shit that the mainstream media loves to talk about. Like, think about your country as an investment.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It's like all that stuff. Immigration drives that, is the best thing for that. There's this one article that notes that the so-called immigration surplus boosts the GDP and raises incomes for non-immigrants and if you're wondering what left-wing rag printed that story it's the goddamn george w bush institute i didn't even know that was an institute wow it's my favorite institute oh blair you must i i've got some articles i have to share with you. Yes, please do. Thank you. Do they do painting workshops there? Yes.
Starting point is 00:42:27 How to draw an apple tree. Oh. And there's like elderly art galleries and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And good studies on immigration. Wow. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:42:38 So well-rounded. He's, yeah, a true Renaissance man. He can both lead directly to the deaths of all the soldiers and do a like c plus job of painting them after they died he's got all the bases covered uh the u.s department of health and human services published a groundbreaking report which concluded that refugees and asylees had a positive net fiscal impact on the U.S. government over a 15-year period totaling $123.8 billion. Again, I think it's just like leaving all the shit on the table that they love talking about or even like perspective right because there's always like
Starting point is 00:43:33 this hand-wringing about like i mean you know because many people are sort of bought into this idea it's like we're letting too many people into the country but if you actually add some context to that we're like really low on the list of developed nations that are actually like the amount of people that are entering the united states as immigrants is completely different than you know we're between 40 and 41 on the legal immigration uh list and like 35th on the overall immigration so right, right. Yeah. Like behind, like in terms of per capita, per capita, per capita immigration. Yeah. So it feels like the main issue is that because of racist fear and these tropes that like immigration is bad for the economy and like bad for just the country in
Starting point is 00:44:20 general safety. Yeah. Safety. Oh yeah. And by the way, safety. First generation immigrants are the least likely people to commit crimes. Like across the board, they are like this is a thing that's obviously raised repeatedly by the right wing when it comes to immigration. Immigrants are far less likely to commit crimes than people born here in any demographic, just across the board. A new Stanford study found immigrants are less likely to be incarcerated for a crime than native-born white Americans. And this has been true since the 80s. And by that, I mean the 1880s. It's just straight up always been true that immigrants come they do great work they pay like
Starting point is 00:45:09 they pay into like social security there's like all this money coming in they you know they pay taxes they don't commit crimes all like just we have massive troves of data that say that, like, this is the best thing that the U.S. has going for it is that people want to come here. And when they do, they do great work, essentially, and they don't commit crimes. Basically, the opposite of all the bullshit that dominates mainstream media accounts of immigration. dominates mainstream media accounts of immigration but because of racism and white supremacy they like it becomes a political issue and then they don't fund this like intake systems the systems for like bringing these people in and safely like integrating them into the society and so now you need to be seeking asylum you need to be like fleeing something terrifying. And then they don't fund that and they don't have the necessary infrastructure to like help those
Starting point is 00:46:13 people in. And so you have these areas that are just like overwhelmed with people. But it's not because there are too many people. Again, Miles, like you said said we are low on the list of per capita immigration it's it's not that we have there are too many people for the u.s to handle it's just the u.s is choosing not to handle the people yeah because of racism well and also like we're constantly meant to think that we're living in this like fucked up zero-sum game too where it's like there's just there's nothing there's just no like we can't handle anything this is if that happens then you lose something like that's always how so many things are framed like when we're trying to progress societally it's like well if those people do better then you're going to lose something
Starting point is 00:46:57 is like always like sort of the default context that we're operating in or how these things are presented but yeah like you say all these charts make it look like line go up right all the charts all those charts that y'all seem to love is line go up and does not seem to matter in this case you seem to be very selective of when you care about line go up yeah so it really i i feel like a lot of it is just like, yeah, I think their music's weird, man. Like, I don't, I don't like their music, you know, like the shit that the same fear that like old people have of young people.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I feel like it's just that it's like, they're different. And so I don't, I don't want it in my country. Like, I don't want to be replaced by that. And it's just, it's like,
Starting point is 00:47:42 well, you're going to be replaced either way. Cause you're going to be replaced. And the thing that you're worried about demographically or because of your existence but yeah that's inevitable so let's embrace the thing that helps people uh and also like i think that's the other part too like we were talking about this with alec karakatsanis is like there's so many like so much of the reason people end up having to flee their countries typically intersects with u.s imperialism
Starting point is 00:48:05 at some point yeah and it's like yeah maybe i mean look as we could have a great perpetual machine where we export imperialism make their countries unlivable and then take them in if we were just if we just embrace it you know and then we win the olympics at every competition we'd get really good at soccer, finally, you know? Oh, we're on the way. We're on our way. We're on our way. Are we about to, like, get our ass kicked in the Olympics?
Starting point is 00:48:30 Or, I feel like... Copa America? Copa America? That's the next tournament. But no, the U.S., they're doing all right. They're doing all right? Precisely that. Because it's, like, it's, you know, servicemen abroad, and also because of, like, people
Starting point is 00:48:43 who come from countries with strong soccer cultures are making sure they look for even even the american sports argument immigration yeah we got a lot of big we got a lot of big big people in our country too yeah yeah we got i think compared to others right oh larger do like do we have those i feel like americans are... What do you see? Which country is the biggest bodies? Yeah, we got a lot of antibiotics in our food and shit like that. Growth hormones, don't you think? Yeah, let's see. Maybe not resident for soccer, but for other sports, you know? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:20 You don't need to be a Tali for soccer. You got to be a little quickie. You got to be quick, man. It's all about that lateral speed. Fast twitch, yeah. Dutch people are the tallest in the world. They're the tallest. Why are they so tall over there? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:35 We have to be top in the body mass. That or Pacific Islanders too. Yes, let's go. Also, we got a lot of Pacific Islanders too. Yes, let's go. You know what I mean? Like Tongans, Samoans. Yeah, and also we got a lot of protein culture, I feel here. Yeah. At the expense of our health, our declining life expectancy. Totally.
Starting point is 00:49:56 I think the life expectancy dropped for the second year in a row. Is that true? Yeah, yeah. It's like historic. It's never happened before two straight years my grandma and great auntie just died at like 98 and 97 and then i just went to my other great auntie's 100th year birthday and then i think these people were like smoking and drinking and stuff like i don't know what makes sense fully i wonder how much of it too is like
Starting point is 00:50:24 because i think about that with like, my mom's mom in Japan. She lived to be 101. And it's, like, she didn't start eating, like, processed. Japan makes sense. She didn't start eating, like, processed food until, like, the 70s. So, like, a huge majority of her life was, like, I was growing food or, like, eating food we made by hand. Yeah. From the earth.
Starting point is 00:50:43 I need my two cans of Pringles. I know. I know. It's very sad. We've gotten so far away. I feel like Japan, is Japan one of like the, what are they called?
Starting point is 00:50:54 Those places like the blue, blue zone. Yeah. The blue zone. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it definitely has like some of the highest life expectancy.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Yeah. Used to. Yeah. By the way, nacho cheese Doritos introduced in the 70s, 1972. Jack, you're sick and you need God. I wasn't reading that off the internet. I was reading that off the tattoo that I have on the inside of my arm. Hong Kong, Macau, and Japan are the top three.
Starting point is 00:51:25 The nations with the longest life expectancy? Very nice. Hong Kong, Macau, and Japan are the top three. The nations with the longest life expectancy? Yeah. Then Switzerland, Singapore, Italy, Blair. Yeah, let's go. I thought that Hong Kong had crazy pollution, like that there was a lot of lung cancer there. Is that not true? Is that a myth? Their life expectancy on average, 85.83 years for both sectors.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Whoa, that's high as hell. Is that real? That's great, Hong Kong. I years for both sectors. Whoa, that's high as hell. That's great, Hong Kong. I've never heard that. I've always heard Japan, that one town in California. Dude, this is from CIA.gov. Yeah, because I thought...
Starting point is 00:51:57 Here's a problem we gotta fix, guys. Well, actually, their latest one says Monaco has the highest. What the fuck are they doing in Monaco? They're just rich as fuck. I know. They're too busy gambling. Yeah. Damn. To eat shit like Doritos.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Yeah, Macau also has gambling. The craps table. Their Doritos are like good for you. They're like, I actually got all my macros through these special millionaire Doritos. Really good for your macros through these special millionaire Doritos. Really good for your gut biome. Monaco Doritos.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah. Yeah. They don't have Doritos on yachts, I guess. Monacan? What's the adjective for Monaco? Yeah, Monacan. It is? I think so.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Wow. Hey, Monacan. Monacan? One time I met a guy named Macan. Oh, Monagask or Monacan. Monacan. Hey, all right, Monacan. Monagask met a guy named Macan. Oh, Monagask or Monacan. Monacan. Hey, all right, Monacan. Monagask is kind of cool, though.
Starting point is 00:52:48 That goes hard. Monagask. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. Monagask, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm changing my nationality. I'm Monagask.
Starting point is 00:52:57 There you go. Thank you. I didn't know you could do that. Yeah, you can. It's actually his superpower. Kind of problematic when I go to ethnic restaurants, but hey, I still try. Yeah. Or, and by ethnic restaurants, he means the Cheesecake Factory.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Yeah, thank you. Just like, give me that Thai firecracker chicken. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be back to hear about the cheating husband who blame Apple. and Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
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Starting point is 00:55:13 What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:55:49 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, And we're back.
Starting point is 00:56:43 We are. And wow. Cheaters are cheating out here, man. Cheaters be cheating. I'm a little surprised that this doesn't happen more often. Maybe it does happen all the time. And this is just the first guy who's like, not fair. But like, you're such a narcissist that you deflect to the point that you're willing to sue Apple.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Like this man is so I love like whenever people get caught cheating or lying, that human impulse of self-preservation to blame others. I think it's so hilarious because like when you see people like, oh, well, why were you filming me cheating on you? Oh, my God. I literally just saw this last night on the Perfect Match on Netflix with Harry Jousty. He, like, the girl was like, yeah, we made out. You kissed me three times. And he goes, no, we didn't. Why are you making that up?
Starting point is 00:57:35 Goes off on her. And then there's that quote that you always see going around. That's like, nothing makes a narcissist madder than being accused of something they did right right right right right yeah this is it this is it so look we got to give the deflector of the year award out to a man in the uk who is suing apple because he was caught cheating on his wife so this dude was frequently hooking up with sex workers and, you know, his wife did not know until she looked at the iMessage app on a shared family computer. And she discovered literal years of receipts of her husband's infidelities. And he thought they were deleted. He thought they were deleted. So it seems that the man was-
Starting point is 00:58:23 Objection, Your Honor. Objection, Your Honor. I hit delete on my phone. That is a sacred pact between me and my phone that those are deleted from the universe. I made an error. I made an error in my cheating game and now I will try to monetize it. I will up my game, My Honor.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Please help me. So it seems that the man was deleting the messages on his phone, but because he wasn't using messages in iCloud, the home computer had all the incriminating messages. So his wife filed for divorce shortly after. What was his mistake?
Starting point is 00:58:58 You got to make sure all that shit's on iCloud. If not everything's on iCloud, what you do one will not happen to the others. Yes. So she filed for divorce the others. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To the others. Yes. So she filed for divorce. Now this man, again, he's suing for five million pounds sterling in damages from apples for the cost of legal fees, money lost in the divorce, and emotional harm from it. He told the Times, quote, if you are told the message is deleted, you are entitled to believe it's deleted and he said he's had to go on uh you know anti-anxiety medication to reduce his panicked attacks
Starting point is 00:59:32 that were brought on by his own infidelity what a bitch i hope apple countersues with like the hardest legal team ever i mean like oh my god like fuck you you loser but that would then make him have more panic attacks and he'd get to sue them again because we made yeah we made an emoji for cheaters and it's your face and that's on every iphone now i can't believe i'm having a panic attack at the uh consequences of my own intentional behavior that went on for years that is fucked up and horrifying your honor you should not have to reap what you sow i believe that is a right of all human beings his lawyers argue quote this is so again this is such a flimsy case quote in many cases the iphone informs the user that messages have been deleted but But as we have seen, that isn't true and is misleading because they are still found on other linked devices.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Something Apple doesn't tell its users, except they do. Except this is all in support documents. If you're interested in knowing how it all tells you, it's all laid out there. You could have been honest. It's because it's weird. It's like essentially you're trying to argue that you have the right to be deceptive yeah the gall to blame apple for your like absolute years of cheating and hiding on your wife yeah nobody told me i shouldn't do that okay by them doing that i'm not able to lie to my wife
Starting point is 01:01:10 so i'm suing for five million pounds what i thought you said five thousand for a second i was like that's pretty low no five million jack he's he's on beta blockers because he can't handle, again, the reaping of what has been sown. I hope he loses so bad and that any time his Google search is just ruined for the rest of his life. I mean, it's already like any sane woman who would know that he's suing technology for his own actions. Right. Hopefully. Red flag city. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Yeah. Yeah. It's tough. This is a mind-blowing level of narcissism it is exactly what i would expect like donald trump to do you know is like oh yeah yeah try and put like we're gonna put we're gonna put apple out of business it works so well for him though like no i mean i don't believe like nothing takes him down every time he gets like just sued or like have you not been paying attention to the news lately no but i mean like every time i worked for him he just goes no every time he gets in trouble no like i know he got i know he's like whatever got charged for 1000 felonies or whatever but like i still don't
Starting point is 01:02:22 believe when if he ever got picked up for jail, some reason he would not make it into jail. I just don't... The man has 70 lives. I don't understand. It's house arrest at best. That's the best you could ever hope for. And maybe he can't use a computer.
Starting point is 01:02:40 That might be the best that people can fucking hope for. It's not like he uses a computer now. He's dictating shit. people around him are like that's too much of a liability have you seen ren fair yet no no is it good because there's this this guy this dude who runs it he's so old but he's like he wants to find like a partner he has this younger dude in his 20s like do all the stuff for him on the computer because this guy's in his like 80s so he's like how many dates do i have like he sits over this dude's shoulder as he goes on like okay cupid or like uses dating apps and shit i feel like that's how trump would
Starting point is 01:03:14 be like and okay so then then say this yeah and burst of a funny like it's like oh you got it you got it there you go okay that's how he uses a computer probably. Now print the internet for me. I want to see what the internet is saying. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, poor guy. I don't think it's going to happen, but you know, you tried. We're pulling for him. It better not or I'm going to hire a legal team to dust his ass. Again, I'm not a lawyer, but I feel like it's always about proving like damages. I'm not a lawyer, but I feel like it's always about proving damages. So you're arguing.
Starting point is 01:03:51 The flimsy part is if you think something's deleted, you have the right to believe it's deleted. But the way you're arriving there is to say, I wasn't lying to my wife for years, and now she knows about it. Yeah, what about her damages? I'm going to sue him for being a bitch. That's what I'm going to do. I'm not even the ex-wife. Yeah. How old is this guy, by the way? Do we know? I feel like they're being very
Starting point is 01:04:11 protective of his identity. Is that by... I'm a little confused by that. He's like the Tinder swindler. We find out. I feel like I associate... Boomers, I associate with loving to have affairs. Maybe this is just mad men and also being like really bad at technology.
Starting point is 01:04:31 So I'm like kind of surprised this doesn't just happen all the fucking time. I could never have an affair for this reason. Honestly. Right. Middle age. They say middle aged businessman is how he's just that's the closest I can get to description. They don't even put his name. he should have to have his name out there what a bitch the sex workers asked for an emergency contact so i gave them my wife's
Starting point is 01:04:54 number she shouldn't have answered that's so funny i was just like trying to picture like don draper in the modern world just like trying to keep all his affairs straight he would fuck things up like really don draper legally changed his identity legally changed yeah he would really be fucked in a lot of ways by modern technology i feel like he would have a tough time but he became a whole different person don't look me up on facebook the the thing that that thing you're saying blair about how like people still sort of look up to trump like despite all this is like because i think you know you like when you're like stupid you kind of need a celebrity to engage in the same dumb
Starting point is 01:05:37 shit you do to make you feel like that shit is okay you know totally and so like with him being like that that is like such it's so attractive to be like exactly dude what it's not my fucking exactly dude i didn't do anything wrong i am morally absolved by all of your crimes thank you my leader it has this like magnetic pull for people because you need sometimes you need somebody who's doing the same shit you're doing to be in an elevated position to make you be like. Yeah, to validate all your bullshit. Yeah, I could be president, baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Hell yeah. Oh, my God. Well, Blair Saki, what a pleasure, as always, having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Can I just say I had the time of my life and i'm so grateful to be back with my brothers my family and also i love when the zeitgang come up to me at shows it makes me so happy and there's always like such sweeties that come out and i really appreciate your guys support um that always makes me so happy to hear it too yeah it makes me keep doing that it's like you're the best you are the best the best in the world um you can find me as always
Starting point is 01:06:50 on all socials at blair sake blair socci and um all my tour dates are on blair sake.com as well as a link to my special which i would love for you guys to see if you haven't seen it. Go check it out. My next date is Kansas City, July 5th through 7th. There it is. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying besides your own special? Just watching it every night, laughing uproariously? Can you imagine? Oh, my God. Oh, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:07:18 I killed you. Wow, that one rocked. No, this tweet really made me laugh. It's at Lingo Unbound. And it was just a photo of Brendan Fraser at a restaurant. And he signed it. I like the steak. It was my favorite part.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I was in the mummy. And then one more, just because it's a little pertinent today. At Lake Shoyo said Celtics fans haven't been this happy since January 6th. Wow. Oh, man. I really. Just a joke. Fuck you guys and your happiness.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Why do they get to be happy get them in now they're not they're not paying attention amazing miles yeah where can people find you and is there where can media you been yeah at miles of gray wherever they got that symbols that's twitter and instagram and the like also if you
Starting point is 01:08:22 want to hear jack and i fully cry about the Celtics, uh, excuse me, as I burp tears of, or burps. That's how you, that's how you cry,
Starting point is 01:08:32 bro. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's more manly dude. If it's a burp rather than tears streaming down my face. Um, you can find us on miles and Jack.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I'm at boosties. If you want to hear me talk about 90 day fiance, that's on four 20 day fiance. Uh, so some tweets I like, man, there's a few. First one is,
Starting point is 01:08:48 this is from at Tommy beer. It says internet undefeated. Somebody superimposed a clip of Luca holding the NBA championship trophy, but it was from when they won the Western conference finals when he was holding a beer in the tunnel with his dad. And then Michael Finley takes it away. I don't do that clip. So this is him is him he's got the he's got the trophy here we go then they put a celtic silver michael finley he just took that shit away from him bye why do you take his why do you take the beer away from i don't know i don't i'm not sure what that
Starting point is 01:09:22 was about unless michael finley was like, just needed that beer. He's like, let me have that, man. And then another one I like, uh, is from Bobby Wagner at B-Wags. It's like that,
Starting point is 01:09:31 that construction where you have two different things, like two different text blocks, but with the handshaking emoji in the middle. Yeah. And it says 2024 Boston Celtics, the film Avatar from 2009. And the handshake is over statistically undeniable yet allegations of no cultural impact i mean i i was having that exact same thought there will be a big cultural
Starting point is 01:09:53 impact in in boston but i don't know i don't statistically though undeniable statistically undeniable yeah it's it's called cognitive dissonance, Jack. I think that's the term for what we're experiencing. Tweet I've been enjoying. Sydney Battle tweeted, I love Topo Chico because it's like, what if water fought you when you tried to drink it? She's so funny. I love her Twitter. She is a great Twitter.
Starting point is 01:10:22 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:10:46 My favorite band, Hiatus Coyote. As we get closer to their new album, they've just been dribbling out little tracks for us to enjoy, and they just dropped another one on us yesterday. It's called Cinnamon Temple, and it's a little bit more like gritty distortion guitars, so it's a little bit different than their jazzy stuff, but also, again, it's just like a really, it's a little bit more like gritty distortion guitars. So it's a little bit different than their like jazzy stuff. But also there's just, again, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:11:07 This is Cinnamon Temple by Hiatus. Sounds like a good ice cream flavor or something. Yeah. Or like incense, incense scent. Or that sounds like what like a dude who like drinks way too much fireball like calls his house. He's like, do you come into the Cinnamon Temple? Oh, no. Sorry. You're going to hang out with your mom. airball like calls his house he's like do you come into the cinnamon temple oh no sorry you're gonna hang out all right we'll link off to cinnamon temple in the footnotes the daily
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