The Daily Zeitgeist - Christmas Comedown 12.26.23
Episode Date: December 26, 2023In this special 'Christmas Comedown' episode Jack and Miles are joined by super producers, Justin Connor, Victor Wright, and comedian Chris Crofton, to discuss… Holiday Songs/Movies/Traditions to R...etire, Christmas Meals, A More Sex Forward XXX-Mas, Holiday Clothing, One Gift We Always Wanted But Never Got and more! READ: The Advice King Anthology by Chris CroftonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to the Christmas come-down episode of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist!
It's a production of iHeartRadio, the podcast where we take a deep dive and marry, share,
by heart radio the podcast we take deep dive and marry share consciousness and it's tuesday december 26th 2023 and we're all here we're all here we took time off to check back in absolutely
this is being recorded on the day after christmas we're just making everybody come in
it's that point of the year where all the christmas songs disappear all at once from like play i feel like
i feel like it starts happening right now everyone's just like i don't want to hear that
anymore ever again it's a real i feel like for me the day after christmas is like a hurtling
change of mood and pace on par maybe with only moments after sex like suddenly you're just laying around with stuff
all over the place and you're liking your right mind again and you feel the reality of your life
more acutely than maybe any other time like i've got post-coital clarity i remember like
the first time that happened to me as a teenager i was like this feels like the day
after christmas like i truly immediately had that thought there's garland everywhere there's
and it doesn't show it's a poppin uh shit my name is jack o'brien and i'm thrilled to be joined as
always by my co-host mr miles gray hey it's Hey, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. the Gray After Christmas, a.k.a.
I didn't know December 26th was National Winers Day.
I wonder if that has to do with people who didn't get a good present.
Bunch of fucking whiners.
Wow.
It's also Boxing Day, you know.
Oh, man.
The time-honored tradition of helping those less fortunate.
The great American.
Wait, I'm saying that's not America,
that's Great Britain and Canada, never mind.
Yes. The greatest
of Britons. Miles, we are thrilled
to be joined in our third seat.
Hold on to your butts,
everybody. We
called him five minutes ago, and
interrupted a conversation, and we're just
like, hey, you want to come on the Daily Zeitgeist
with no preparation and just talk about Christmasmas it is mr chris croft
i'm i'm available on five minutes i'm like a i'm like a fireman yeah always on with no
fucking training we rang the alarm the. I just came down the pole.
They were like, where did that pole lead to?
He's like, I don't know, man.
I don't know, man.
It's fucking crazy.
And then we are also joined
adjourned.
We are also joined by super producer
Justin Conner!
JC, the true JC, the reason for the season.
He has risen
on the TDZ. He has risen.
Wow. I'm the TDZ.
Oh, dude.
He is risen?
Like, dude.
It's like sexy Jesus.
Oh, yeah.
They need to do that in the-
Like, yo, he's risen.
Oh, he's risen.
He is with us.
He has risen.
And it's just R-I-Z-Z-I-N.
All right, that's the next-
Oh, yeah.
You can use Riz in that, too.
Yeah, Gen Z, Gen Z,
uh,
Easter marks right there,
dude.
He is,
dude.
He's got like stunner shades on.
That's how bad of the year too.
How topical.
Yeah.
Look at us.
Look at us.
And we are thrilled to be joined.
His mic is on.
It's super producer,
Victor.
I'm still just hung over from all the ham and tamales I just ate from last night
Ham and tamales
Ham, hamales
Ham, hamales
Dude, get the hamales
Very happy to be here
Everyone's mic's on, except for Super Producer Bae, who lost their voice
Yeah, the voice
We'll let the cords rest
It was a wild Christmas, apparently
I don't have much of a voice either.
Yeah.
Oh, you got a voice, Chris.
It's all that nugget.
All that nugget?
Oh, yeah.
Is that one of your Christmas shirts?
So, all right.
This is what the episode is, basically.
I feel like we should take advantage of that clarity of vision and mind
and make some big decisions about the pop culture landscape of christmas like it not you know what what are
some classic movies songs traditions i have a couple traditions that i want to take another
look at for christmas because you know it's we're spent we're done with all the christmas cheer
pack it up well we're just here seeing it with clear eyes and ready to say, maybe we take another look at this one.
Okay.
Okay.
Where do you want to start?
What do you, I guess, Jack, what are you most angry about?
Oh, I am teed off.
Oh, shit.
Don't get me started, guys.
So let's actually start with the meal because Victor just mentioned ham and tamales.
Yep.
That's not a thing that I'd ever heard of people eating on Christmas.
I don't think we need to formalize a meal.
Somebody that has no Latino friends.
Ham and tamales is the meal?
Tamales are, yeah, for Christmas.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ham is just a Christmas thing. Yeahmas thing yeah okay well it's fine jack
was in dayton bro he wasn't out here in socal you know like i was definitely not us yeah yeah yeah
so i feel like the standard when you see a christmas meal in a movie that meal is just
thanksgiving except with a goose instead of a turkey. Right. Or something like we,
nobody eats geese anymore.
We've met too many geese.
I don't,
I don't want to eat a fucking goose.
Like I've had,
I've cleaned up too much goose shit or like stepped in too much goose shit.
Like,
and then there's ham,
but it's again,
it's just Thanksgiving with ham instead of turkey.
In a lot of cases,
I want a new,
like go-to meal that everyone it sounds like
oh because we have the latino community already has this but like i i feel like it's just currently
a lesser version of thanksgiving i'm personally pitching pizza and pasta like pizza and pasta
don't have a global holiday where it's like that's the thing like
this is oh yeah i've got i've got this like amazing pizza that i'm gonna you know put in the
oven for this holiday you know right we've got we've got barbecue we've got burgers and fries
and or burgers and hot dogs for a lot of other holidays but pizza is the favorite food in a lot of other holidays. But pizza is the favorite food in a lot of places.
And I feel like we need an official holiday.
Why not make it an official Christmas pizza holiday?
Jack, where are you from?
You're from Ohio?
Kind of all over the place.
I'm in West Virginia, Ohio, Kentucky, Massachusetts, New York.
Someplace you never had a...
What was it?
What did you have for... Tam yeah tamales like I didn't
have I'm from Connecticut I didn't have tamales so I was like 24 right
yeah yeah that's the kind of those I didn't have sushi until I was like in my
20s paranoid white boomer people like are scared
so scared the most frightening this is the holiday where we
put salt on the chicken.
Like tamale to them sounds like
you know, it's too much like commie.
It's not just white people.
I have a family member.
I will not put it on blast, but they have never
eaten a taco in their entire life.
Wow.
That's tragedy.
That's tragedy.
No Taco Bell, no nothing
Not even Taco Bell?
No
Wait
You just didn't believe
It hadn't hit until
Taco Bell?
Not even the finest Taco Bell?
If you don't have a Taqueria or something
I was like, okay, maybe in that form
You're like, I've never had a
Miles is thinking, so this guy's never been drunk?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, nothing?
So producer Ben is like, wait, but Del Taco even?
Del Taco, right?
No, no.
Now that's where I draw the line.
So what is this person eating, Ben?
Pizza.
A lot of pizza, yeah.
They went real hardcore Midwestern traditionalist,
and that apparently did not include tacos when they were coming up.
Yeah.
I think the idea of having an official go-to meal
partially came from hearing that Japan KFC is the move on Christmas.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm recording from Japan right now,
so I can tell you this as a matter of fact.
It's on and popping with the kfc
japanese kfc christmas is just like it's i don't know for whatever reason it's just like the biggest
thing or was for a while now people kind of do christmas in many different ways but like
they're like christmas package that they put together is like shit that people like order
in advance line up for there used to be like they still have
commemorative cups like my family used to collect those shits wow yeah but they say it happened
because there are americans who couldn't find a turkey so they just went to kfc to have some kind
of you know poultry on a goose yeah yeah i couldn't find a goose i can get you a goose i'll
get you a goose by noon man i got my god'll get you a goose by noon, man. I got my goose guy. I grabbed that thing by the way.
Well, let me ask you this, Miles.
Does the KFC batter hit over there better than it does over here?
Better batter?
Yeah, because I don't know, man.
The breading on the fried chicken in KFC in America, it always feels so wet and soggy to me.
Yeah, it's good.
No, you can get, get look japanese fried chicken is
good you know and i would say as a belasian person i'm well equipped to be judging fried
chicken in japan i'm talking about the kfc specifically but kfc i haven't last time i had
it was like a couple years ago it's fine i mean like i i guess the difference is like there's
probably more of an exoticized view of like american fried
chicken you know it's like the same way how like people in europe love red solo cups because it's
in the party scenes of every movie yeah like oh is it just is it like tastes better out of the cup
it's like nah man it's the fucking media man it's just the fucking fried chicken so yeah so they
don't have to show labels but i was wondering wondering about that too. Like maybe you have to fry chicken over in Japan was more of a like tempura style, which would make me.
No, no, no.
It's got the same blend of herbs and spices.
Yeah.
But the big thing is like it's it's sort of presented as a way for people to engage with this, you know, because no one is Christian in Japan.
It's like less than one percent.
So nobody really out here like, you know, fizzing for Jesus.
So fizzing for the risen riser i said fizzing but yeah they're not out here like that it's more just to be like it's fun it's mostly a couple's holiday like it's like valentine's day
for a lot of people too like you get your you get your boom thing something yeah yeah yeah because
the real the real time for kids to get gifts is new year's that's when you get them that's when it's pop that sounds nice i'd be down for fried chicken too let's do
fried chicken you know like fried chicken doesn't really have a holiday i mean it's associated with
like summer holidays more so but my only thing is that i don't want it to be an issue where like
people have to work on that day so if it can be a thing that reheats nicely like pizza fried chicken especially like
now that we have air fryers like that fried chicken is so good in the air fryer like you
and fried chicken is also people talk about cold pizza being good like cold fried chicken is i
think my favorite day after oh junk food delicacy i love that that shit. You're a special kind.
You don't like that?
No, I agree with Jack on this.
Oh, I hate when like some, when the crunch goes soggy, like if it's really crunchy, like when it's really fried.
Well, the second, I know what you're talking about.
That second day, like just crispy, starchy covering that used to be the fry.
Has the consistency of coffee cake.
It's just a wet, crumbly mess.
And it's just dripping down your
mouth as you're consuming it.
How are y'all eating this shit?
It's dripping.
I kind of like that it's dry. All the fat
has consolidated.
We don't have any food in the house.
I grew up in a house where we had no food and it wasn't because we were broke it was just because we're irish and irish people don't
they just eat to drink yeah you know they just choke down a potato just because they have to
because they know that they'll die otherwise but there's never any food did you have any like do
you have any memories of like a christmas meal chris no i know it's the thing it's i can't relate to any of this because it's like
our refrigerator is empty like it always is and we just have tons of candy and coffee yeah all
irish people love stimulants i mean i might get in trouble with this but i i don't know
i find as an irish person i found that none of them eat anything until they're wasted and then
they eat everything with their hands that is a spice bag baby or whatever it's like cheese and
ice cream and stuff but mainly they're they're all about like food is something you get out of the
way so you can get drunk so yeah i grew up like you know, just Christmas Day. What we ate was like, you know, like today we're eating like marshmallow, not bunnies, but like whatever.
Santa Claus stuff, marshmallow or something.
You know, there's no food, no chicken.
We don't have chicken.
Who's going to make chicken in an Irish family?
Nobody.
You want to make chicken?
And if you ask about chicken, they're like, you want to make chicken?
Fuck face. It's a fucking bear holiday episode yeah they don't they there's no it's all
about like you know it's like i don't know it's not a food culture as you know it's they didn't
have any food for a while either just they just had like you know whatever what's for you chris
what about you shamrocks something like that I talked about it in the last episode when the Pied Piper let all the snakes into Sweden.
Irish people had nothing to eat because they all-
I think you said rats.
Irish people had no rats to eat because the Pied Piper took them all over to Sweden.
If you could, what's a food that you would-
Chris, you're king for a day.
This is what everybody in the land must eat on Christmas day.
What does it go?
Well, since I don't think anybody's really eating geese, we could try out geese.
Like I don't think nobody's eating geese.
Except in the movies.
Only in the movies they're eating geese.
I've never eaten a goose.
I mean, unless you're talking about one of those Cornish game hens, which I've had at a wedding or something.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, like a tiny bird.
But for Irish people, it's like, I think a feast would be like...
You need a medical degree to cut into it.
For me, as an Irish-American who grew up in Connecticut, like a nice thing, it would be nice if I didn't have to unwrap the Starburst on Christmas Day.
They were already unwrapped.
Uplated out of the wrapper.
On a platter.
You didn't have to take the paper off them and
mess around with the little pieces of paper that gets stuck on them.
I wouldn't mind replacing candy
canes.
Are there any candy cane fans
on this recording?
Nah.
I'd eat one if I had to.
It's just a fucking weird shaped
Fucking breath mint
It's a last resort candy
That's a last resort
There's no joy in that fucking thing
It's hardened toothpaste
You find that in a glove compartment you might eat it
I'm re-experiencing candy canes for the first time
Through my kids and they're like
It tastes like fucking toothpaste man
This is terrible
I'm like watch your mouth that's what it's all about and you can't you can't have one till
you finish all your goose yeah shout out to my mom i will say this might be hard to do because
christmas morning can be a bit hectic especially if you're visiting multiple homes or family
members but i just had this memory right now my mom usually would have our christmas
pajamas you'd buy like new pajamas for us uh the night of like christmas eve and then in the
morning you know after we'd open up our presents there would be like cinnamon rolls and bacon
yeah yeah and that was christmas breakfast is real yeah oh that's what it is it's not the dinner man that's what i'm thinking it's
the fucking breakfast that's when i put a lot like i'll even make a breakfast casserole the
night before that i keep in the fridge and then in the morning that's actually more than the dinner
the thing that i look forward to because the dinner could be fucking anything and also like
it is what it is for me because i would be way i'd be up at like three or four in the morning
i'd have a hard time sleeping on christmas day you know i would just like it'd be one of those people
annoying my parents and so when i finally got to eat at like nine o'clock it was just like euphoric
to have like this sugary savory bacon type of explosion right yeah for sure christmas breakfast
goes hard for sure all right what else are we getting rid of i think mistletoes like i don't know it's
so central in so many songs it feels like it was invented by sexual predators for sexual predators
i don't need it's a very like i like a sex forward like spin on christmas for sure just
like a romantic christmas but like yeah y'all know
we love horny christmas we love horny christmas we've talked about it endlessly it is also the
closest that the human species has to a mating season it's like when the most birthdays most
children are conceived around this time of year so many september birthdays shout out me gang yeah so exactly so i just feel
like we shouldn't need to trick people into kissing us we shouldn't have to like be laying
traps to get a little kiss on christmas and if we are maybe that person and you shouldn't be
kissing even if it is christmas so i'm not saying like retire songs if it mentions mistletoe but let's just like
maybe steer it in a non-mistletoe direction and create some horny traditions that don't involve
laying traps yeah anyone ever actually kissed under a mistletoe well that's a thing not it's
really more of an awkwardness generator yeah right yeah whenever i'm near mistletoe i feel uptight you know what i
mean because i'm like what happens if some freak you know what i mean like i don't like and i
respect the laws of mistletoe in my opinion mistletoe creates a forbidding environment
yeah i i definitely so like to your point like i've never kissed under mistletoe creates a forbidding environment yeah i i definitely so like to your point like i've never
kissed under mistletoe maybe like since i've been married you know what i mean like booed up you're
like oh the mistletoe kind of thing but yo i remember because mistletoe in popular culture
it was like the first pickup artist i think i ever listened to like as a kid like yo it's just like
that it's like that like you get the people
don't know mystery had a mistletoe in that big hat of his yeah and that's how that's why he had
more more makeouts on on record than any of the other pickup artists where's mystery in prison
or selling like cutco knives he was omnipresent for like a year yeah yeah yeah like in everybody's
face and for a while i thought he was chris angel i was gonna say him and chris angel are He was omnipresent for like a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like in everybody's face.
And for a while, I thought he was Criss Angel.
I was going to say him and Criss Angel are roommates now in Vegas.
I was like, is he Criss Angel?
But I remember in seventh grade, like I begged my mom to buy me like mistletoe, like out of like a Michaels or like, you know, like a decoration place.
Like with the hopes that like I could get a kiss, like at school. Wow.
Like with the hopes that like I could get a kiss like at school.
And, you know, I kept that shit in my pocket all day on the last day before winter break.
Just shook because like I was like, I got that thing on me.
But like, do I know how to fucking use it? And I think a part of me knew that there was no way that waving like a fucking plant in front of someone's would suddenly create like a consensual moment.
And I think that was what's probably when I
was like what the fuck is like
also as
uncomfortable as mistletoes already
are the it feels like you're pushing the
boundary even more if you have like
if you're just carrying it around like putting in front
of people's faces like as opposed to
the movies I mean I saw it hanging above
door yeah it was always yeah
no but then you see people like now you gotta give me a kiss they're like oh bill i guess i gotta kiss you and
meanwhile like i'm six and i have no idea what consent is so i'm like oh i guess that works so
mistletoe check so pickup artists i knew pickup artists were stupid like they were a waste of
money but that's like how like how bottom of the barrel their ideas are like get
some mistletoe no no but i'm saying more in the sense of like here's a hack that doesn't involve
understanding people to try and be stimulated in some way you know what i mean because like that's
that's what so much of the that sort of you know curriculum is like not to say that yeah yeah i was
just thinking that i didn't yeah i was like i'd be so mad if I bought like a pickup artist, like videotape or whatever
and popped it in and they were like, get some mistletoe.
I'd be like, wait, what money back?
Sucker.
40 bucks for this.
Yeah, exactly.
I paid for the masterclass to take, to go one night out with you in Vegas for $3,000
and you gave us all mistletoe.
Yeah.
Here's the secret.
It's like, it's like when you find out about like a Zinu mistletoe. Yeah. Here's the secret. It's like when you find out about
Xenu and Scientology.
Yeah, you're like, wait, for real?
Mistletoe, dude.
You've finally gone clear.
Open this envelope.
Check out all these volcanoes, dude.
They all came in from these volcanoes
and Xenu had to check them.
What the fuck?
Your secret is mistletoe, dude?
Yeah.
Oh, this cost me fucking $600,000.
Hey, every time.
Works every time.
Yeah, so I don't know.
Pitch us some more sex-forward traditions
or if you know of any folks, folks,
and we'll incorporate you know incorporate those
next year because it ain't always it's not always about the kids you know what i mean christmas for
everybody you know what i mean so what's the adult christmas things you know because i think but i
get a lot of the energy that people spend is to make it like magical for younger people or etc
but like you know what's some hornier stuff we can do y'all i want to say one thing
but for my mom's sake if she listens to this i want to say she does make and she made this morning
december 26th uh whatever year 2023 yeah
she makes those cinnamon rolls and she made them this morning that come in the tube
yeah yeah and those i saw i i don't my mom is just a person who always said like we'd be like what's for dinner and she'd
be like i could ask you the same thing i mean that was her kind of that was her thing for real
she was just like i'm not cooking i hate it like so she yeah and we were eight so we were like well
what are we supposed to do you know she was like we're going to're going to McDonald's. So we went to McDonald's quite a bit.
But she did always make those.
And she made today those cinnamon rolls.
And I love those cinnamon rolls.
And they're kind of a tradition.
I don't know if that happens in a lot of houses, but I guess they've been on the market for a long time.
So a lot of people must be eating those cinnamon rolls out of a tube.
And they're they're fucking for sure.
Except in Europe, because I'm pretty sure they ban that kind of canned dough shit that we have in the U.S.
Are you serious?
I'm pretty sure you cannot find that in Europe.
I just found out they fucking ban Cheerios, regular Cheerios.
Yeah.
Oh, my golly.
We got to invade Europe.
No, they did not.
Are you for real?
That's what somebody who I live with told me.
I'm even madder at Europe than I usually am.
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness right let's take a
break while I find out if Cheerios are actually banding Europe and what are they choking ants or
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United States is so fucked
as far as
we're gonna have fascism
and junk food
the whole works
Pillsbury biscuits
like out of the can
banned in Switzerland
Austria
Hungary
Iceland
Norway
and Denmark
oh my god
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and we're back
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yeah
we should drop a bunch of fucking cases
of that shit on switzerland yeah i have not found where cheerios are banned yeah so maybe they get
confused with like cornflakes because that's another like boring cereal yeah boring ass cereal
where they're like nope too sexy too much right too much fun happening with these cornflakes
it's because like in europe they just have have a basic thing where they're like,
yeah, you should only eat food and not chemical-laden, food-shaped shit.
Yeah, but you're all right with cuckoo clocks scaring the shit out of your elderly.
Cuckoo clocks scaring the shit out of your elderly. Is that from the beginning of Pinocchio?
I don't know where that's from.
Did somebody get murked by a cuckoo clock?
I was trying to think of something that
could get even with
Switzerland.
What about Europe? Oh yeah, sure, we're eating some
whatever. I'm ready for cuckoo clocks to make a
comeback, personally. How many old people
have had heart attacks because of your damn cuckoo clocks yeah am i right well people have heart attacks they're
sitting on a toilet seat that's too cold in the winter you know what i mean yeah a lot yeah they're
all right with with like unmarked bank accounts but they don't let anybody have it they're fine
with nazi gold yeah but don't bring that don't bring that pillsbury dough up in here
don't fuck around now we're neutral okay oh no yeah we oh we're very very civilized
very civilized also we make a fuck ton of guns don't get it fucked up that's right to protect
our civilization yeah don't they isn't the average like everybody's strapped in switzerland
that might be sweden man that's one of the two. No, I think what's happening in Switzerland today.
What's happening in Switzerland?
They can't eat those cinnamon things, right?
What are they doing over there?
I'm talking about how they're superior because they don't have any Cheerios.
Probably.
They're like, ah, another day without Cheerios.
It's very nice.
The heart attack talk does bring me to my next point,
which is stay lazy as fuck.
It is in your best interest is in your family's best interest.
This is the worst time to be in the hospital.
Like just statistically such a bummer because it's because,
yeah,
it's just a bummer.
The,
the decorations they have in the hospital,
they're made, holiday. Yeah, it's just a bummer. The decorations they have in the hospital. They're mid, dude.
Ugh. I was in a hospital for Thanksgiving last year and it was
there's nothing like that, you know.
Those decorations that you've seen
like you haven't seen
since third grade. Elementary school.
And they're just everywhere.
Like, see, we're keeping the traditional
letters are missing. So it's not the
vibes? Wait, if the vibes are fine then there's another existential threat of the hospital.
Yeah.
So other than the vibes, it's the deadliest time to be in the hospital other than July.
So I'll explain why early July is the worst next.
But December, basically, it's like everybody's on on vacation it's like what what would be the worst
time for there to be an emergency at your job that like you know somebody has to solve immediately
probably like around christmas right you know you're like a little bit drunk everyone's like
still a little bit drunk or on vacation or yeah they're not supposed to do that at the hospital.
I know they're not, but I'm not supposed to be drunk right now,
Chris.
I'm starting to understand a lot of things
about Switzerland, about hospitals.
Thank you,
guys.
Things are a lot worse than I realized day after Christmas.
I was having a nice time.
It's slippery. It's cold.
Your toilet seat can give you a heart attack
No, it makes sense
So just stay on your couch
It is a matter of life and death
But it's actually to do with the fact
That a lot of
Doctors are
Inaccessible
And then other people that are
Just people that are on call
And you don't know what they're fucking doing on December 26th.
Probably not just staying very well rested, just waiting to be called in.
Like bodies don't stop having heart attacks and shit.
And in fact, like because people eat worse and drink more and are inhaling a lot more wood smoke.
Actually, it is a time.
It's one of the most active times for heart attacks what yeah so that
also probably isn't helping you know wow wait so why july though how we said early and then july
is when the official changeover happens and like people who are first year medical school students
come in for the first time and like they're just like you know little time and they're just like little baby does.
They're just like shaky luggage.
Oh man, that timed it perfectly
for 4th of July.
Hand blown off by an M80
or something.
Hand blown off by a first year medical student
who just
came in to get my blood pressure
taken.
The fuck was this, dude?
They had to reattached three fingers.
I mean, they're working now, but this shit was close.
They're working.
You hold up your hand and they're bending backwards.
Yeah.
I never seen somebody throw up that gang sign before.
What set are you claiming?
The upside down, bro.
I think, I mean, there is a thing of like you know being cozy and watching movies but just just stick to that don't go sledding don't go skiing stick around all those winter sports yeah here's
my tip don't get hurt because they don't got the a team at the hospital i'll tell you that much
that's what i'm saying man it really does feel like winter is set up for you to hurt yourself the most shout out to
my sister joelle monique we went the first time we ever went ice skating she took a blade all the
way up her her leg it was like a nine inch like gash in her leg and suffice it to say she did not
take one step onto that ice that was as she was lacing up her skate.
Holy shit.
I broke my hip roller skating, so damn.
You got to watch out for those rinks.
Was that during the winter?
No.
In general.
That was not.
I was just saying.
I was just saying.
I was trying to share a story with us.
I know, but I just want to hear it because I know it isn't.
And that's what I love about that story.
I just got lost in just thinking about how dangerous rinks in general are.
Right, right, right.
Stay away from rinks.
I don't care what kind of year.
I don't care what kind of time.
I tried that joke twice and I'm not going to try it again.
Skin of a rink.
Wait, what happened?
You didn't hear it?
I kept saying, skin of a and otherwise.
Rinks that are dangerous We try
I did my best you know
One thing I'll say is
And I'm curious for everybody is
Do you think holiday fucking clothing
Matters because for me
I don't give a fuck
About what you that has no
Bearing on my you're very vocal about
that fact yeah i know yeah what's behind me i've i'm the holiday party this year i'm gonna be
showing up all color coordinated but i get that that's your but you have you know that's your
aesthetic style what i mean to say is like wearing red and green to be like fuck where's your red and green that's the
shit i'm talking about i'm like nobody gives a fuck about that it's to me i honestly it's the
music and the decorations that do all of like the heavy lifting in terms i'll tell you who
gives a fuck about that though miles okay people who work at the dmv yeah yeah they'd be so mad
they would be so mad yeah this is their time of year where they get to
finally do something yeah do something a little bit different besides hand out boat licenses or
whatever the hell they're doing there i just remember like you know but it's like one of
those things like as a kid there was like where's your green where's your red really i never heard
of that yeah i never heard that either oh man, man. What am I fucking? I mean, I remember that from Valentine's Day.
Elementary school?
Like, yeah, or St. Patrick's Day?
I'm like, I don't know, motherfucker.
It's March.
Shut up and leave me alone.
This is green.
It's fucking forest green.
And I don't need to.
They're like, it's not totally green.
Like, okay, y'all, can we move forward?
You know what goes a long way that I've found?
At a drive-in movie theater.
Like what one year we took our kids to see, I think it was frozen like around Christmas
and they were selling the big fat Christmas tree light necklaces.
Oh yeah.
You can like, that shit is still going four years later and you can just throw that on
with anything.
And everyone's like, oh, it feels like Christmas.
It's like so festive and it's a cheap like five ten dollar thing yeah yeah one of my miles what do
you think about that miles if it's not about colors is it okay to wear a like a medallion
that's no what i'm saying i'm saying the idea that it's necessary to facilitate it like yeah
like i love something lo-fi like that like one necklace boom
turn your fucking outfit into a holiday jam perfect yeah you're hanging out if you're hanging
out with a group people give you shit about that stuff as adults yeah you might want to check out
what's going on in your life i mainly do it because mystery told me to it's a called peacocking i want
to find out where mystery is it's called Christmas Goosing actually That's right
I've got all day today
I've got all day to relax
Like Jack's saying
Today's the day we relax
We listen to John Denver records
And Neil Diamond records
Like I did when I was a kid
Which I really like
It's a nice day to listen to records
And drink coffee you know
And maybe stick some Reddy Whip
On top of your coffee
If you're an Irish person like me, just because you're a sugar maniac.
And then you Google about what happened to
mystery. I want to find out what happened to mystery. This is the time. Do your
Google research now. This is a great time for that.
It's very hard to get hurt doing Google research, although you might be
so surprised by what mystery is up research although you might be so surprised
by what mystery is up to that you might have a heart attack and if you forget about mistletoe
for the next year when you meet somebody of the opposite sex or whatever someone you're interested
in you could talk about what happened to mystery yeah and bam people love talking about that. They do.
I mean, I think.
He's still a dating guru.
Oh, you found him?
Yeah.
Fewer hats, long ponytail in the back, glasses that are a little bit funky.
The man is still out here.
Oh, my God.
Yeah. He looks like Eddie Vedder now.
Yeah, he does look like Eddie Vedder.
His hair has a nice body.
Oh, he's gone grunge.
He's like gradually going through the fashions like someday he'll catch up.
He has a podcast called Wingmen Unite.
Is that what that sounds like?
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
He's got a little soul patch sometimes.
With like Memojis.
I mean, the fact that he doesn't have a soul patch all the time is shocking to me.
Me too.
He's doing the same thing.
Like, he's talking about, like, his openers.
Like, how to open conversation with, like, women.
What a fucking loser.
The Google Earth opener.
It's a fun one.
Spells opener.
I've written a book on openers called Hey Guys.
I hope you guys have it.
Okay, anyway.
Wow.
I hope you guys have it. Unbelievable i hope you guys have it believable loser the google earth opener
like that we all know his short oh the google earth like yeah because all of those things i
remember when that that book the game came out by neil strauss that was about him like following
like and i was like yo what the fuck and how they like how technically they speak about is like you
do the thing where you just say there was a car accident outside.
And I'm like, did you guys see that fight that just happened outside?
Yeah.
It turns out, I think she caught her boyfriend cheating or something.
Like, oh, no way.
It's like, yeah, anyway, my name's Hickey.
Wow.
Good to meet you.
My name's Neil Strauss.
I write for the New York Times.
Excuse me?
Google Earth.
Not only do I hope you have it,
I hope you're all so familiar with my book
that you know what I mean by the Google Earth opener.
Wait, what do you even think the Google Earth opener is
if you're somehow using Google Earth
to begin an interaction with a potential love partner i'm not gonna lie
i think i saw you on google earth that's crazy but i think there's a photo of you on google earth
that's not true is that the thing that would be my guess oh like like i swear to god hold on so
bad i was thinking it was something like you're you're prettier than google earth right hold on
yeah this you no you're as pretty as google. Right. Hold on. This you? No.
You're as pretty as Google Earth.
Yeah.
That's the Christ statue in Brazil.
Oh, damn.
That ain't you?
All right.
I thought it was the same outfit.
Oh, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
All right.
Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and close out with some gifts that we wanted that we never got
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gifting stories. We'll be right back.
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And we're back. We're back we're back oh my god dude i found a like a snippet of what the google earth opener is
oh hell yeah it's it gets like scripted it goes like this says mystery have you ever heard of
google earth i checked out this location this very spot where we are standing right now on google earth i zoomed into
this location and i saw that building there and that building right there it's like i have already
visited this place isn't it cool but now here i am and it's so much better in 3d and that is
supposed to be like a way to deep you just sound like okay so you just got on google earth like is this a pickup line from fucking
2009
have you uh
ever heard of records
so it's crazy I was like
playing this record where like it sounded like
there was a band in the room with me
and then
and then I went to a concert
he's doing the vinyl opener.
He's doing the vinyl opener, dude.
He's a fucking master.
I hope you're all familiar with the vinyl opener.
And he treats it like it's chess instead of just the dumbest shit that you've ever heard.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, next we're going to talk about, close out with the gift opener.
Where the day after Christmas, people are getting acquainted with their gifts.
Yep.
I remember spending one whole Christmas and half of the day after Christmas
reading lying liars and the liars who tell their,
whatever that Frankel,
Al Franken,
Al Franken.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like,
you know,
that wasn't even my present,
but I was a big dumb idiot yeah i got way too young i
did not know how to read it yeah but my parents bought it for me books are a great gift books
are a great gift but and these are not great gifts no we we just sometimes like take a look back what
what's the gift that got away guys what's i think everybody everybody i don't know for me personally
it's funny we were talking about this before justin revealed that he like was like a character from a tv show i always wanted to be
when i was like what god like it was there that one thing that you always wanted and you never got
or what is the worst thing you got there are two things that i could talk about one thing i have
spoke about on this show i think molly lambert was one i was on an episode and i talked about like the eliminator ts7 which was like a seven in one
like penis shaped weapon weapon yeah like like one of them was just like a tongue yeah it was
it was it's just a big floppy tongue with a with a with a pistol handle on it simbian attachment where it goes in and out yeah uh but
there was like and that was one i always wanted i never got there was another thing that i always
wanted uh and never got were like a like walkie talkies but the kinds like people would use on a
construction site like yeah they're always like the you know kid fucking walkie-talkie set that had like a
40-foot range or something but i always remember my tech yeah my parents were like i need that
like motorola thing that the cop has like i want that fucking walkie-talkie and they always said
absolutely not you're fucking eight years old just yeah like learn to like not pee the bed so much
and then we could talk about a walkie-talkie and a handgun a handgun like the cops have yeah handgun and qualified immunity that's what i want daddy thank you
give it to me now but yeah that was like one of those things i wanted and never got and then one
thing i wanted and got was so bummed out was this dick tracy watch we talked about this when ben
bullen was on and i was talking about my love of watches. When the Dick Tracy movie came out, they made like a Dick Tracy watch that looked like on the outside.
The shit that Warren Beatty was using to fucking talk to people like an early iPhone.
And then obviously the 1990 kids version was just a dumb ass LCD screen watch that didn't do shit.
I remember being like fucking devastated that it did not do the shit
from the movie so that's how i felt when i got x-ray specs out of the comic book i'm not kidding
i was i was a kid i thought they said that you can see through people's clothes
yeah that's what it said that's it said that boner city here i come
fucking some bullshit i also got a machine that was supposed to print money out of paper.
Both those things I thought were real.
I was like, once I get that money printer, it's like this little thing that you're, it's a magic trick.
But I didn't, they were like, makes, I mean, I guess there were no rules as to what you could say in a comic book as far as like they couldn't, you know, you could say anything you wanted, I guess.
I mean, it was a 1970s comic book.
There probably wasn't a lot of litigation.
But it was like, here's a machine machine people bought monkeys out of the back of comic
books yeah here's a machine you can put paper in and money you can print your own money and you'll
never need money again so i was like waiting for that like well my life's gonna be a lot better
yeah why don't more people get these yeah i thought i was gonna be looking at naked people
all day with my x-ray specs and my own money.
And it turned out,
yeah,
I just had to keep being in fourth grade.
Yeah.
Similar to Dick Tracy,
the Dick Tracy watch.
I got a Rambo rocket launcher water gun,
but it was,
uh,
it was like this battery powered electronic thing that did like the water
was like less than just a standard water gun the water that would shoot out of it was less than a
standard water gun and it died after like 15 minutes of use and but it looked so cool i mean
it like has a fucking rocket on the top of it.
It was incredible.
Definitely not the thing that a child should be getting.
Yeah, to look like you're carrying a shoulder-fired RPG.
I think it came out around the movie Rambo 3.
Or no, I guess it came out around Rambo 2, 3 or no i guess it came out around rambo 2 but i got it in like 88
when it finally got to me i think it was like off the it was the ones that had fallen off a truck or
something and it was it did not work oh back when your dad was stealing shit yeah man and then
double dare the home game really wanted that like i assumed that you would just get a box and it would you would have
like a double gear double dare you know like in it like a set would like it's like you open it
and the whole production facility and they might have because i never got that shit but i did try
and do it myself one year for like i think it was my eighth birthday i did a double dare like
course what are those called?
Yeah.
Like a course.
Right.
Right.
Right.
You know what I'm talking about?
The dare obstacle course.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Did like a double dare obstacle course one year for my eighth birthday.
But it was like,
we had just moved to town and there was only one kid there.
And it is the only thing I remember is that we made a jello mold with a
flag in it and just like stuck our hand in and we're like thing i remember is that we made a jello mold with a flag in it
and just like stuck our hand in and we're like there it is because the jello mold was like small
it was like real small you know for it to be a challenge the jello mold needs to be like the
size of a fucking children's pool yeah right right yeah we just made a bowl of jello and then the
flag was right there in the bottom of it. What's doubled there? I've never...
Is this a TV show?
Traumatic. Victor is young.
Victor is much younger than I thought.
Time for
Elder Share.
Dude, it was this fucking...
It was hosted by Mark Summers
and it was like this Nickelodeon show
that was like just...
It was like the game show that every kid fucking wanted to be on because there's like all kinds of wacky games that you felt were like doable as a kid.
There was fucking slime everywhere.
Yeah, it was beautiful.
Victor's too young to know what it is.
And I'm too old to know what it is.
You didn't have Double Dare?
No, I knew it.
But I mean, I was already on the streets by then.
You're out in the streets.
I was already writing poetry on the back of garbage can lids.
While you were fucking fawning over Mark Summers.
Yeah, on methadone.
That's right.
But out of the corner of my eye, caught a glimpse of double dare once and i spat on the ground and put my cigar back in my mouth my nickel cigar i just started chewing on my rum
rum soaked nickel cigar that's right oh shit it was mark summers i don't know who that is either
mark he was just the host yeah and then he had an amazing
long tail of his career on like the game show network where he's okay yeah i remember he was
the first person that i heard about like what ocd was yeah because he had ocd and i remember that
was for whatever as a child like my point of like entry and empathy to be like oh mark summers the
book my guy who do messy show i'm like that must have been hard that must have been hard yeah
especially to do that show if you had ocd with slime all over the fucking place
fucking kids kids are adjusting and he said that possible to control apparently him making it like
like people aware of his obsessive compulsive disorder, it cost him the hosting gig of Hollywood Squares, the revival of Hollywood Squares.
And then Tom Bergeron took it over all because he was honest about his OCD.
Fucking Bergeron.
That's fucking Bergeron.
How does that affect your ability to host Hollywood Squares?
Especially if you've been doing it successfully for seasons that's crazy yeah yeah so any other any other bad or you know gifts that got away
that anybody wants to talk about yeah i got one oh chris you can go no no justin go ahead justin
go first i think now that i'm looking back on it uh maybe my father's love of t2 was outsized enough for me to like that really
started judgment day yes terminator 2 judgment day that really started my love of dirt bikes
like just being this the freedom of like being a kid to just like go out into the world and just
drive a motorcycle yeah yeah hack an atm and just have a rat-tailed friend with a boombox like that yeah that just really
made me like I don't know for some reason that seemed like a fantasy world to me so and also I
think x games and like all that stuff was happening around the time I was I was coming up so I really
really really wanted a Suzuki like specifically a yellow Suzuki dirt bike and the what I got
instead was my mom took me to the store and let me sit on it
for a little bit.
Yeah.
And that,
that was about it.
Oh,
and she,
uh,
bought me some,
uh,
some gear so I could dress up for Halloween.
And that,
that was my consolation prize.
And then I'll flip the next Halloween.
Wow.
Yes,
yes,
yes.
Uh,
but I'll,
I'll flip it and say the gift that I got wasn't surprisingly
shitty I got a gift that I thought was going to be shitty and it was actually really really good
it's very mundane it was an electric toothbrush when I was like in seventh grade and I was like
I was like what the fuck is this shit I was like I don't want I don't want to do it like
hygiene what are you talking about I'm trying to get fucked up on sugar today and then you as a seven-year-old on christmas morning
my aunt gave it to me shout out uh aunt jock and she gave me my my this toothbrush and it
changed my life i was i really started taking my dental hygiene seriously after that i don't know there's not a cool story behind it it just uh it is what it is yeah it activates
that adult in you i'm sure you're like yeah shit i'm cooking i'm brushing like the fucking big
folks now look yeah yeah absolutely parents man parents man that you want a motorcycle to get you
a toothbrush you know yeah yeah yeah i will say it says a lot about justin that he's like and it
actually was smart and it worked out really well.
Yeah.
Now I have great teeth.
He's a good kid.
He's a good kid.
Yeah.
Well,
that was someone else's decision.
What I bought for myself with the first hundred dollars I ever like had
cumulatively that I saved over like six years.
I,
Paul wall was just coming up with Mike Jones and I bought myself a fake
ass grill for Christmas.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was like, oh, it was bad.
Would you have the whole top diamond and the bottom rose gold?
No.
No, I had both top and bottom had the little fake diamonds in them.
Oh, shit.
And I went to school.
You must have sounded stupid trying to pop with those shit.
I sounded dumb, bro.
My mom was like, are you sure you want to spend your money on this i
was like hell yeah i'm gonna be cool as hell oh man she was trying to save me i bought like six
six carat canary yellow fake yellow diamond earrings out of the back of the source uh when
i was in high school my mom my mom like at the time you know i wasn't ordering shit she's like
she thought it was something like misaddressed for her. She was like,
what the fuck is this?
I'm like,
they're my diamond ears.
Like you wear this shit.
And I'm like,
yeah.
Like when I have,
you know,
my ears are pierced. Like she knew my ears were pierced.
And she's like,
these are so stupid looking.
I know,
but that's what bird man wears.
Yep.
Shout out to parents letting us make our own fashion mistakes.
Yeah.
Chris,
what was yours?
So, uh, I, I wanted a set, and I was like 14 or something.
And it was like a big thing.
So my mom took me to look at it ahead of time because it was like not something.
You know, it was a big gift.
Yeah, like on a whim, right?
Sure.
So it was like we went to this guy's house somewhere like 45 minutes away in Wallingford, Connecticut, I think.
And totally irrelevant but uh
maybe they're still for sale up there i don't know so we went go check it out so we went to
this guy's house and we went in there and it was like he offered like i don't know he was some
older guy you know probably had a cover band or whatever and he's quitting and he had you know
a mullet or whatever and um he offered me the whole room full of drum stuff it was a lot of stuff for like 400 bucks
and my mom was like that's too much money and we went home wow oh holy shit and in retrospect
it's so funny because like it's like okay mom well then i'll just become an alcoholic
it's so funny because like it's like okay mom well then i'll just become an alcoholic i mean i feel like that was a real moment that she didn't realize she was like
yeah i'm not gonna get you these drums so have a nice time in this town with just like a golf course
and some woods have fun yeah go out tonight have fun right in the woods man where all the porn is oh shit so i i feel like that's also one of those things
where it's like get your kid drums like seems like a good idea until you think about it for
like 15 minutes however long the drive was to wallingford and then you're like oh my god this
is gonna be an absolute nightmare for me and our entire, like, everybody within Earshot. Yeah, I understand
the thought process, you know, but I think
that it's like, for me, I just look at it like,
you know, I could have been,
you know, I don't know.
You could have had a drum accompaniment to this
appearance. Yeah, I could have been freaking,
you know, Neil Peart.
Instead, I end up
funneling, funneling the most
beer at Trinity College.
Could have been Neil Peart.
Now I'm at the edge of the bar feeling real hurt.
Exactly.
Yeah, right.
And that kind of stuff.
That's a bar.
Yeah, that's a bar.
That's a trauma bar.
Wait, didn't you also say you got something from your grandfather?
Yeah, this is a sad story, but maybe it'll help some people who are going through this because it really was like something i forgot about until i was in therapy and i remembered a couple things and this will
make my mom real sad but it's okay because it's real i uh one time when i was wetting my bed
speaking of wetting the bed or i did wet the bed i don't know but but but my mom took one of my
animals stuffed animals and put in a tree in the front yard and left a note from the stuffed animal
saying like i'm not to hang around with you anymore
if you wet the bed.
And that worked.
And my mom told me about that forever.
Like, it was a huge victory.
She's like, I didn't wet the bed after that.
And I'm like, yeah, I wasn't happy either.
Oh, my God, dude.
That's so fucked up.
Never happy again.
And this is, I hope...
Dude, that just broke me, Chris. But this is important because I'm never happy again. And this is, I hope. Dude, that just broke me.
But this is important because I'm going to try.
This is like a teachable moment.
I like to joke a lot about smoking old cigars,
but I want to give a teachable moment to the young people listening.
Okay, Victor, I know it's a tough act to follow.
Damn.
I don't think I socialize properly because like my like me and my family
we would always just buy our like buy ourselves the gifts that we wanted and then give it to
each other and then they'd wrap it and then on christmas we'd be like holy shit you gave me this
and it was like i bought it for myself you know wow that's a lot of agency yeah and i never really
wanted to like i that's why i never really wanted anything so i'd buy like the cheapest lego and
just give it to my mom and be like can you give this to me for christmas and then she'd give it
back to me and now like you know i'm like an adult trying to like buy christmas gifts yeah and i'm
realizing this is very difficult because
they're not buying the gift for themselves and they're giving it to me to wrap right so i don't
know i guess i always wanted like the 400 lego sets that i didn't have enough money for yeah
like the delorean yeah yeah but i don't i always got vaguely what I wanted Which is pretty cool
I just love that too like Bay's in the chat
It's like most Asians
I mean the gift giving too
There's so much of it it's just sort of like what you want
Alright here's the money for it just leave me alone
Yeah exactly
Do we need a whole event around this
And sometimes I appreciate that
Because as a child when you're looking for a gift
It's purely just about like yo give me give me that yeah and that's it it's not about jesus we've
really gotten lost yeah i gotta make up for this horrible story i told my parents gave me everything
i wanted i got like cleco vision and and like space laser fight and um you guys don't even know
what i'm talking about and i got are you just like making stuff up no no i got i got laser
fighting double dare yeah space laser fight by bambino if you guys don't know about that man
those ads were so effective and that was a good game for its time you know i mean we're talking
about a period that we went from pong to people fighting with lasers. Anyway. Oh yeah. This thing. Talking about the history of video games.
Yeah.
Space laser fight.
By,
by,
by a Bambino.
And I always thought Bambino was a bad-ass name for a electronics company.
Yeah.
They had been Bambino.
And it was also a smooth,
like the console of the space laser fight was very like,
you know,
it was like a pretty iPhone,
like real smooth plastic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pleasing. Like you want to rub it, rub it know, it was like a pre iPhone, like real smooth plastic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Pleasing.
Like you want to rub it, rub it down.
Like feels like a, Oh, there it is.
I haven't seen it.
Oh my God.
That thing was so bad-ass.
Oh, I haven't seen it.
I haven't seen it in a while.
No, it's a good looking unit.
It was a good looking unit and it felt good and it made you feel like everything was going
to be all right.
Yeah. And it is. With that smooth plastic. unit and it felt good and it made you feel like everything was going to be all right yeah and it
is with that smooth plastic chris crofton victor wright justin connor thank you guys so much for
joining us on this the day after christmas chris where can people find you follow you read you all
that good stuff well if everybody didn't already get a copy of the advice king
anthology for everyone they know for christmas yeah great they could get it for them for
whatever the next holiday is uh new year's that's chris crofton the advice king anthology my book
that came out on vanderbilt university press you can get it anywhere i don't care where you get it
get it from the evil empire get it from amazon I don't care because it's got the instructions to overthrow Amazon in it.
There you go.
The advice King anthology.
And you can follow me on Instagram and at the Crofton show Twitter or fucking.
Well, I'm not going to say the other word at the Crofton show.
And you can listen to my record on Spotify.
They've got a 7.4 from pitchfork.
It's called Hello.
It's me.
There it is.
To producer Victor,
where can people find you?
Yeah, you can find me on Instagram,
VictorWright438. You can also catch me on Pokemon Go,
Vman438. I always
send people gifts so that they could send me gifts
back. And then I have a podcast,
Chewing Up the Scenery, where me and my
lifelong friend Nick, we talk about
movies and shit. One of my favorite episodes is going down, talk about the movie JFK and Nixon.
So we do presidential history movies and all kinds of shit.
So just check it out.
Hell yeah.
Justin, anything?
You can find me at jconthesmith, that's J-C-O-N-T-h-e-s-m-i-t-h on instagram and uh yeah i don't have much to
plug right now i have a few things in the works but uh media i've been enjoying uh i've just
been playing a lot of spider-man 2 on station 5 it's been super fun hey the guy's child make an
appearance yep i had to go grab him. That's right. Miles' baby.
Say something. Definitely in the
building. Bit of bar.
Tell him. Tell him. Yeah, he's got a new
track coming out. That's a good looking baby.
He got a new track coming out. You know, Adonis,
Drake's son had a track at
six years old. We're going to put something out soon.
Hell yeah. Break that record.
Come on. Say something. Do something. How old is he?
He's like, he's 10 months old now
Wow he's looking good
Look at that hair
Yeah you're telling me man
A marvel
I look at it every night
And I'm like
What the fuck did I do wrong
To not have this baby's hairs
Did you have hair as a baby?
Oh yeah I came out
Dude
The fucking scalp Was blown the fuck out
like a grow room you know what i mean but yeah the genetics got me i don't know if i
had a chance anyway miles of gray if you're asking i had to leave i had to leave to go grab the baby
because yeah it's been real ramshackle this uh this end of the episode. Jack underscore O'Brien, that's going to do it.
We're back with more holiday
year-end stuff. That's going to do it for
our Christmas stuff, I think. Now we're
going to get into the year-end
stuff in the coming days.
And we will talk to y'all then.
Hope everyone is having
a great holiday. Stay safe.
And don't put your feelings above
children's.
Nope.
Talk to y'all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
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