The Daily Zeitgeist - Clooney Breaks Up With Biden? Shark Week = Misinformation? 07.11.24

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

In episode 1706, Miles and guest co-host Jacquis Neal are joined by comedian and co-host of Yo, Is This Racist?, Andrew Ti, to discuss… Biden Just Lost George Clooney, Anti-Abortion Activists SHOCKE...D Trump Is Abandoning Them? Shark Week Is Full Of Lies and more! Biden Just Lost George Clooney AOC and Sanders stick with Biden amid 2024 turmoil and push him on a bolder agenda Anti-Abortion Activists SHOCKED Trump Is Abandoning Them? Shark Week Is Full Of Lies The History of Shark Week Shark Week Is Lying Again About Megalodon Sharks Shark Week Is Lying Again: Megalodon Is Definitely Extinct The Dark Side of Being a Female Shark Researcher A fake Shark Week documentary about megalodons caused controversy. Why is Discovery bringing it up again? Shark Week's dark side: After fake documentary controversy, Discovery doubles down on its lies "Cocaine Sharks" are just another fishy tale on Discovery's Shark Week LISTEN: Cinnamon Curls by Tom MischSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:53 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:02:05 Do it. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print.
Starting point is 00:02:31 It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 346, Episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart my heart radio this is the podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's thursday july 11th uh and what what what treats does this day bring us uh let's see thursday july 11th is guess what it's literally 7-11 so it's national 7-11 day go get that free slurpee do they still do free slurpee i think they still do free slurpee? I think they still do free Slurpee. They should. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I think so. National Mojito Day. All-American Pet Photo Day. What the fuck is that? It's like a photo of a Boston Terrier holding a basketball. I don't... Okay, sure. National Blueberry Muffin Day.
Starting point is 00:03:18 National Rainier Cherry Day. National Cheer Up the Lonely Day. Okay, well, that's all for you. July 11th. take care of that business My name is Miles Gray A.K.A. the Lord of Lancashire The North Hollywood number one son The Shogun with no gun
Starting point is 00:03:34 And I am thrilled to be joined today by my guest co-host Somebody again, multi-hyphenates Comedians, writers Performers, improvisers Hosts, podcasters Voiceover extraordinaire. Please welcome Chicago's very own to the microphone, Jock East Neal. I guess you're wondering where the zeitgeist goes.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's a deadly thing and it won't let go. And it won't let go. And I came back to let you know that I won't leave you no more. Ah, what up, niggas? How we doing? How we living? Holy shit. The Bobby Caldwell?
Starting point is 00:04:20 Got the Bobby Caldwell. I went to a little restaurant last night, walked up, and they was playing that. And I was just like, oh, my God. Oh like oh my god They want us to fuck in this restaurant When did you find out Bobby Caldwell Was not black? As an adult As an adult It's one of my favorite things
Starting point is 00:04:36 No black person Of our age knew Bobby Caldwell Wasn't black So it's one of my favorite things, like seeing black people find out that he was white. Right. Yeah, dude, I was in my 20s for sure. Yeah, because I thought like,
Starting point is 00:04:52 especially when Tupac sampled it for Do For Love, I was like, man, I'm like this. I think that was the first time I really was like listening to this like stuff, the original material. And then I remember seeing a picture of bobby caldwell like this is a this must be a different bobby caldwell it must be a different who this man appropriated yeah that was him man that was him i'll tell you man white white white people was in their bags in the 90s with music man like yeah like you know uh tears for fears like all the motherfuckers was was
Starting point is 00:05:21 in a yacht rock you know i didn't know they were not black. I knew they was white, but we was listening to them though. Steely Dan, Kenny Loggins. I was like, yo, man, y'all in y'all bag, bro. They did the good thing of always having the best session musicians, especially the best drummers playing on those albums. That really gave it that
Starting point is 00:05:41 feel to it. You're not a legendary drummer, I think, if you haven't played on the steely dan album but anyway i digress jacques we have to welcome our guest today uh one of our favorites again it's we've collected our favorites together to speak today uh a wonderful human being a wonderful writer a wonderful creator and host of the podcast the famous legendary podcast yo is this racist please welcome to the stage the man with the grilling skills of a man of someone who works at a churrasqueria okay please welcome to the microphone andrew t i as usual every time i show up i got a space on something this week it was the aka
Starting point is 00:06:22 uh i guess rice tea. We call it rice tea. That's a very nineties level joke, but I feel like that's where we're at. And people were like, it's funny. Cause the Asian guy is doing a joke about Asian-ness. So we can laugh at that. That's the best I got.
Starting point is 00:06:36 That's the best. Yeah. Yeah. High school bullies. When I was probably, Oh my God. And he started singing too. And was like well i'm not gonna try to top that so i i gotta like oh we need that you know i was like yeah we're off this
Starting point is 00:06:52 we're spectators now we're not participants for this aka performance at all i'm just here uh andrew when did you find out bobby caldwell was not black about two minutes ago yeah i want people to know like when we were talking about that i saw like andrew's like fingers furiously typing uh and i could tell he was looking shit up he was like this nigga's not black he is man shout out to the all the what do they call that blue-eyedeyed soul? Man, that's so. Yeah. There's so many people. There's a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I didn't know Slash was black until like three years ago. And the only reason I knew is because I saw a picture of him when he was younger. Right. And I was like, oh, that's nigga hair. Like, that's, he got black hair. Like, that's black hair. I was like, wait, what? And then I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I was like, oh, Slash is black. I had no idea, bro. No idea. Part of a legendary, you know, tradition of biracial black and Jewish guitar players like Lenny Kravitz. Yeah. Slash. It's like, yo, they're out here. Out here.
Starting point is 00:07:58 But I feel like I knew Lenny was black from the beginning. Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. Lenny was. But I think with Slash, because he looked like a fucking, like, comic book character a fucking like comic book character and like the dude with the curly hair and the big top hat smoking cigarettes i don't know i can't see the face behind also his his friend was pretty racist so you're like i kind of hope he's not black right yeah he's like justin justin just wrote the top comment on youtube's video for what you won't do for love.
Starting point is 00:08:28 I'm a 59 year old black man who's loved this song for years. And I'm just now learning this. I love it. Sometimes you just feel like you can hear it. You know, you're like, oh, I know that. And it's just like and then you see me like you look like if Tom Petty was like a scarecrow. Seriously, he looks like the whitest man that he looks like, you know, white, white. And yeah, shut up and open his mouth.
Starting point is 00:08:55 God bless you. God bless them all. You know, thank you so much for your contributions to the culture. But anyway, Andrew, we are going to get to know you a little bit better. First, we're going to just touch in on some of the stories we're going to talk about. Alert, George Clooney just bailed on Joe Biden. Oh, so we'll see what that means. Also, the anti-abortion activists on the right are just shocked that Trump is not listening to them anymore. So we'll get into that and the potential fallout or not at all of that.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And then it is Shark Week. to them anymore so we'll get into that and the potential fallout or not at all of that uh and then it is shark week uh we were talking about how john cena we mentioned john cena retiring john cena is hosting shark week and i didn't realize like i knew obviously that it's popular but shark week is also like a hotbed of bullshit and misinformation it turns out i had no idea because i stopped watching like 94 or something but But we'll talk about that and those and just the controversies around some bogus shark week shit. But before we get into that, first, Andrew, before I even ask you something, I was I was just thinking of that picana. That's why I referenced the grilling skills of the. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Because I was just thinking about that and I want to eat that again. And I was going to ask you where you bought that cut of meat. Let me see. We'll do that off mic. No, no. Well, okay. I will find it while we're talking at some point. I'm just going to burst in and say the name of a carniceria in the middle of some conversation, probably the Biden one.
Starting point is 00:10:21 But this was like a – there's this carniceria in hollywood i only really noticed it because i was like driving from echo park to paramount to strike so it's somewhere between there on that corridor maybe on no roads or something like that yeah yeah and and listen this is me projecting an awful lot and i'm probably going to say something that is incorrect here but okay this is a podcast what it feels like is that this is a long time neighborhood latino carniceria that maybe has been taken over or they're handing the reins to a millennial gen z like kid maybe so basically it looks like sort of like your standard been there for 50 years carney suria you know it's like the place with like the dustiest bag of takis you've ever seen yeah yeah yeah but also they have like a5 wagyu picanha oh it is really
Starting point is 00:11:22 insane and hard to square look they they know the neighborhood's changing so they're just adopting yeah you need to go check them out so it's it does feel genuinely like it's like still a neighborhood place i don't know yeah and i'm making or there's a reason why they've been in business baby they know what the fucking people yeah people won't they know what the people won't and it's just and when i looked it up it is a place that people know about on reddit it's like one of the top places sure sure me so so what the fuck do i know but i'm just walking in for the first time i was like this is this is it's like it's like okay again not please don't cancel it please do cancel me it felt like the storm was like sort of being gentrified from within i'm like yeah this is serving like two audiences in a probably good way i don't know i don't know right there was like salvadorian like tropi champagne like soda and then next to it's like
Starting point is 00:12:18 kombucha and you're like oh yeah okay so we're doing it all but. Probably that's the best way for that to change is at least it stays in the same business. It's not like McCall's or some white butcher moves in. But I don't know. Anyway, but I did actually just get a fucking
Starting point is 00:12:39 picana sword. Oh, you got to come. Okay, you're coming through. We're doing that but yeah yeah everybody we're we're doing it i'm also truly i've been having so much red meat this july that i i'm like i've had so much red meat i have to stop like i'm yeah i'm worried i've not had any when i'm good for you i stopped well it's not by choice i had my wisdom teeth taken out at my big-ass age. Oh, wow. And so I've been able to eat meat, really.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Well, I think Andrew and I will welcome you back to the meat-eating scene. We'll eat from the sword of the blade of Damocles. All I've been eating is mashed potatoes and pussy. Oh, yeah. High nutritional value food. Andrew, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are, what you're into, aside from picanhas? Damn. This one is going to be a good one. So I was at Costco yesterday, and my impulse buy at Costco was a $ 16 body pillow that is advertised oh yeah okay so
Starting point is 00:13:49 are you a side sleeper uh no isn't it best for side sleeping like so so here's the thing is i kind of was just like since since my dog has basically started sleeping in the bed, I was like, I'll just have an extra thing. I don't know. It was just one of those things where I was like, for $16, how could I not buy this thing? I drove it home sitting in my passenger seat
Starting point is 00:14:18 like a human being. You drove in a carpool lane? You drove in a HOV lane? Yeah, put a wig on it. Is it good? Because I am a side sleeper, and I'm very much a buy good bedding. I have a good mattress. I have a great mattress.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I have great pillows. I wash them, all those things. But I have a small pillow that's all reliable. That's all reliable. I have a small pillow that if you take off the pillow case, I wouldn't be eating pussy no more because ladies would leave. And that's the pillow that I cuddle.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah, that's the pillow I cuddle. More case than pillow. And so I want to get a body pillow because I am a side sleeper. But I'm always hesitant because I'm like, this shit is probably going to disappoint. I can't imagine this is a probably gonna. Disappointing.
Starting point is 00:15:07 I can't imagine this as a good one. Considering it was $16 at Costco. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but Hey, I don't knock it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Yeah. So, well, so this is my, was my search was a tasteful body pillow covers. Cause I was like, I can't just raw dog. Wait,
Starting point is 00:15:22 wait, but in your mind, they're all there. All that's out there are just gaudy body pillow covers? Well, in my mind, it's only anime waifu body pillow covers. Oh, yeah. You want to be husbando. So I had to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I was just like, what are my options here? And it is surprisingly robust. I was going to say, I like that you defaulted that it was all waifu well i was just like i don't know jack shit about body pillows i'm not sure how much use this is one is gonna get but i'm happy to own it i was very happy to like you know how when you're taking home your costco groceries it's already too much stuff
Starting point is 00:16:03 yeah yeah it was very satisfying to then have like love the equivalent of essentially like a dead body like right you know it looked it looked mostly like a murder scene or like a like a like a cleaner scene in a movie right right right because it's fucking huge damn yeah well do you know send us some flicks i want to see it yeah maybe yeah maybe want to see it. Maybe I'll hop in. Andrew, what's something you think is underrated? Underrated? Gross recipes that are way too much work. Okay. So I did... Gross recipes that are way too much work.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I had been saving... So let's see, about a fucking year ago, we got my friend for her, as kind of like a wedding bachelorette gift, a jamon Iberico from Spain, which I don't remember the exact bill, but it was closer to three or closer to four figures than three. Oh my God. It was,
Starting point is 00:17:03 it was a very expensive hawk and because i'm like i guess because i just like like i i kind of was like i guess i'm cheap ultimately because as we were carving up this jamon you know there's all the the fat on the rind and i was just like a maniac like saving all these pieces of jamon rind. Yeah. What do I do with it? What do I do with it? I was like, this shit was like, I don't even know, like probably like $40 a pound. This fat is like one of the most expensive substances I've ever had in my life. So I saved all of it.
Starting point is 00:17:36 And that it's been in my freezer for way too long. I guess, you know, fat connoisseurs, let me know how I fucked up. But I was having a day where i like really really did not want to do any more writing and you guys hadn't called me to get on the podcast so instead i had to do something yeah what i what i did was over approximately like six hours rendered out rendered out like 800 milliliters of hamon fat holy shit which is crazy i mean if anyone's had hamon it's like very very like funky like a little bit like like aged kind of and it's it's uh hamon pigs are like raised on acorns only so it has a kind of like nutty flavor anyway so i have like way too much fat so then
Starting point is 00:18:19 what i did was i got i don't know, fucking six liters of Costco bourbon. And I made... Oh, fat washed it? I fat washed so much Costco food. You created a Iberico jamon fat washed bourbon. Costco bourbon. Yeah, that's fine. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I mean... Well, it's the cheapest and the most expensive. I don't care. Look, man, it's fat washed with $1,000 fat that you buy. I don't give a shit. Well, it's the cheapest and the most expensive. I don't care. Look, man, it's fat washed with $1,000 fat that you buy. Okay, so you really are having a party. It took me fucking forever. Yeah, I mean, come through. I did make
Starting point is 00:18:54 burnt pineapple Manhattans with the hormone fat washed bourbon. Oh, shit. That was fucking great. Alright, so everybody, we'll send out Andrew's address. We're all going to show up. He's going to feed us meat and fat-washed bourbon cocktails.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Shit. Let's stop this podcast right now. You know what I wish? I wish, like, I wish, and I'm saying this as somebody who is a podcaster, has hosted, has hosted on this very network. I wish we had the balls to just be like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Podcast over and end the episode. Sorry, y'all. Life is just more important sometimes than these microphones. And then be like, tweet out a picture of us drinking. And tweet out a picture of us like, this is what we stopped the podcast for.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And nobody would be mad. Or you leave the mics rolling the whole time. We all leave with the mics rolling. We meet somewhere and then we all come back and then just talk about what happened and it's a seven hour episode i love it yeah i'm sure that'll be great for for ads uh what's something you think is overrated overrated is not doing stuff the white people way as i think everyone on this podcast knows i i you might also, I basically pick what I want to talk about and contort it to make it over under. But I feel like I know you guys well enough
Starting point is 00:20:13 to kind of know that given the two options, if you had the option of doing stuff the white people way or the correct way, we're all typically choosing the correct way. Give me an example here well i'll do i'll do the one that is what i've been doing which is i started meditating uh-huh just because because i'm a man who has you know leaders of of that one but i started meditating using one of those fucking very whack apps
Starting point is 00:20:45 where a very condescending-sounding lady tells you what to do. Sure. And I was so resistant to this because, obviously, it's not cool. Oh, because you're like, right. He's like, this ain't – I should be going to an ashram or some shit. Yeah, I should be doing – Because I remember when I was a kid, I was like – with my dad, I was like, are you – like, he was like kind of doing a meditating thing.
Starting point is 00:21:09 But also, he's just some dude. He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. And I was like, well, how do you do it? And he was like, well, you're just meditating. And I was like, and he kind of refused to. He did parenting the Asian way, which is the bad way, which is just pushing me off a cliff and not telling me what the fuck is going on. Yeah. So I always have been just like really resistant to it and i will just say i understand that i'm probably doing it incorrectly or something is wrong or there's a better way but my alternative was really not
Starting point is 00:21:35 doing it at all yeah and this has definitely been better than not doing anything oh yeah so are you are you saying just so so i have clarification are you saying that what is overrated is doing things the white way or what's over or insisting and insisting on like i ain't doing insisting on doing it the right way when we could be doing it the easy and lazy which is what white people do with With a product. With a product. With a product. Yeah. Using an app to appropriate your own shit.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I see. But for you, you're saying now that you found this app, you're now, look, it's a gateway into meditation. Yeah. But I don't think it will be. I don't think it will be. I mean, it's a gateway to whatever this practice is. I don't think it's going to be like, oh, but then I really researched and like found out where my dad, you know, none of that. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I can just tell. So I'm just saying, I guess it kind of boils down to like good enough, even if good enough is kind of embarrassing. There you go. Yeah. Look, I think like anything, right? If you're interested in something get into it however you get into it you know what i mean yeah because but i'm also not interested in i'm interested in doing shit that's going to give me a heart attack like fucking boost stinks but
Starting point is 00:22:55 what i am realizing is i need to do more of this other shit and so the lowest bar version of that is what it's going to be. There you go. I got some guided meditations I could put you on too. Send them over. Is it the right way or is it the white way? It's the white people way, baby. I'm not mentally equipped to
Starting point is 00:23:17 still my mind like some kind of ascetic monk or something. No, that's not me. I'm guessing everyone who listens to this podcast knows more about meditation than I do, and maybe you guys do also. I just crossed
Starting point is 00:23:34 the line into being like, I think I can scratch whatever itch I have while I'm meditating. I was just trying to sit there and be solid and serene. I was just like, this is and be solid and serene. And I was just like, this is the itchiest I've ever been in my life. No.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And you're like, I'm supposed to be meditating. I can't scratch myself. Yeah, exactly. I can't scratch myself. It was the most torturous thing I've ever experienced, just trying to sit there for 10 minutes without scratching an itch. That mysteriously appeared the second that the woman was like, hey, close your eyes. And I'm just like, motherfucker, I'm so itchy right now. It's like having a fart when you make an out or something
Starting point is 00:24:13 with like a new person. Yeah. And just like, you just willpower. My willpower is willpower. I get it. Well, look, we will examine our own willpower during this break and we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
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Starting point is 00:28:00 So George Clooney, he just hosted a huge fundraiser for Joe Biden a few weeks ago, and he just penned an op ed for The New York Times stating that Biden had won a lot of battles over the years. But, quote, the one battle he cannot win is the fight against time. Holy shit. okay he goes on to say it was devastating to say it but the mr biden he i i met at a fundraiser three weeks ago was not the joe big fucking deal biden of 2010 he wasn't even the joe biden of 2020 he was the same man we all witnessed at the debate our party leaders need to stop telling us that 51 people 51 million people didn't see what they just saw. This is about age, nothing more. We are not going to win in November with this president. Yeah, I think that's a big Hollywood lib endorsement to lose for sure.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I wonder what Jeffrey Katzenberg... If Jeffrey Katzenberg bows out, then you know it's bad. Because that's the man who's really the one uh running shit in terms of hollywood donations and things like that uh mean meanwhile and this is the other thing too like it is wild to see like the party leaders need to like be real i'm it's so funny to see how all of this is being like joe biden really needs to go i don't know what he's thinking it's like y'all were enabling this thing yeah so why the fuck are you suddenly acting like i don't know he said he wanted to if you fucking knew then fucking do something about it then the discourse is completely shifted to like he needs to get out of here he doesn't know it's all good there's an entire party
Starting point is 00:29:35 apparatus that enabled this that is also not having a reckoning that it absolutely should because it's not also i've said this before it's not just about his age it's what the party even stands for what the platform is that's also not that's also not getting people excited so sure it's a bunch of old people it's a bunch of old people in politics unfortunately um that should not be there anymore and i think you know the i think what we're seeing is that the recognition that we should have known all along that they realized that this is all performance. Right. It's all a performance. And when Joe Biden, they know they knew Joe Biden was old three years ago, two years ago, last year, three months ago, two months ago. We all fucking could see it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 But but the hope was at the at the debate he could perform right because it's a performance right it's a performance art that's what politics yeah right and the presidential debate has all become nowadays the funny thing that i i and and i'm not here to say whether he should drop out or not. I have my thoughts. I truly don't give a shit. And the reason I say I don't give a shit is because like, I think we're screwed either way, but like, and,
Starting point is 00:30:52 and, and I get, I get both sides of why he shouldn't, why he should, you know, personally, I'm like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:30:58 you, this motherfucker is old. Like if we could run a better candidate out there, we should have been thinking about that months ago. But I, the, like if we could run a better candidate out there we should have been thinking about that months ago but yeah i what i find curious is everybody who's saying he should drop out he's too old are you also saying that you're not voting for him because if you're not saying that then shut up because like because like if because you're saying he's too so who is the they you're talking about i'm still gonna vote for him but they won't because he's too old like what
Starting point is 00:31:31 it seems like a counterproductive argument where we should be talking about the things like records and the fact that he's supporting the genocide and the fact that trump is trump and all these other things where we're kind of just kind of it's almost like we're trying to say well that's what i'm saying it's like i've said it before they just want to change the mannequin in the shop window yeah not change fundamentally what is being sold to people because since january 6th it's all just been like they're gonna fucking kill us all and we don't know what the fuck to do that's not that doesn't that's not winning you know what i mean nobody has said nobody and maybe somebody but nobody that i've heard on social media media whatever has said the performance he just put out
Starting point is 00:32:13 lets me know i can't vote for him because he's too old what everybody is saying is he should drop out because he's too old nobody's saying they're not gonna vote for him still so what are we really saying like what are we actually saying properly identifying what's deflating the base is it because he's old or is it a myriad of all these other things you just mentioned is it the is it the support of israel is it the lack of movement on anything that fundament like that even approaches something that looks like equitable like financial like fiscal policy that helps working people exactly like there's none of that the problem is his base has always been people who might vote for trump which is like like his strategy has always been let's go for like racists who are poor like is essentially what he's always gone
Starting point is 00:32:59 after instead of being like you know people if every for instance like non-white person voted democrats will win every time like it's just that they make sure to let us know that they don't care about us so we are not enthusiastic i mean we're looking down the situation where like i feel like at some point i'm gonna lose my nerve and admit that I probably should do something to help Joe Biden win. There's going to be moments where I'm like, I don't know, fucking phone banking or canvassing and literally being like, I think this man is a war criminal that you should vote for and I will also vote for him. Yeah. That's where we're at. Because truly, like if the binary is the status quo or even getting even worse, then yeah, I have to pick the status quo despite my absolute distaste and hostility towards it.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And that's what, and I think that's what makes people so frustrated because you want to feel like you have something you can use your, what your desires are to get a candidate to appeal to you as leverage to get them to change what their what they stand for what their policies are going to be but when they're absolutely become so rigid and be like no this is it bro like what like we're not doing shit bro this is it you feel like well i don't want to feel like a fucking fool for doing this again and but again when it comes down to it yeah i don't want to fucking sit here and watch everything completely change in a flash. If, you know, depending on what degree it does change based on Project 2025, et cetera. But, yeah, it's a very interesting, not interesting. It's just a very complex and emotionally frustrating position to be in both, like I said, emotionally and philosophically it's a lot easier because a month ago like i think we all you know we all know each other and so we all probably have an idea that a month ago
Starting point is 00:34:56 whatever you say well i'm saying well i'm saying like a month ago the reasons that i was like i don't know if i can vote for this man is because he is funding and supporting the genocide and all these other things that are happening. Right. And the truth is the apathy for Joe Biden's candidacy was there amongst our side, the progressives and left and people who are and like, you know know everything that's going on it was already there a month ago it's much easier to now say oh the reason why we won't throw our support and the reason we may lose this ticket and the reason we may lose this election is because joe biden is old than it is to say the reason we may lose this election is because we all support israel we all support like all these things that nobody was actually calling joe biden out on like george clooney wasn't calling joe biden out for supporting
Starting point is 00:35:51 the genocide but he calling them out for being old nigga shut up shut the fuck up like i mean yeah that's why he lets his wife do the talking while she leads investigations into israeli war crimes he's like well look i'm associated i'm associated obviously but like meanwhile you know bernie sanders aoc the rest of the squad they are calling for bite like they're like we're we're sticking with biden they're just saying maybe he should just have a fucking boulder platform to run yes appeals to working people they saying that you know that this is a moment to quote, lean into a bolder economic agenda and move further towards the working class. Okay. That, I mean, that's what most progressives I've been asking for since the beginning. Will that happen? That's the thing
Starting point is 00:36:33 is I'm not sure how realistic that is. She goes on to say, if we can expand on healthcare, if we can make sure that people's rents and mortgages are affordable, if we can actually provide and chart out a future that is more leaning into the needs of working people, then I think we can chart a path to win. Bernie Sanders also said a similar thing. Now, this feels partially pragmatic slash opportunistic, like for AOC, like it sounds like, you know, she's really trying to she's trying to be hanging in the Democratic Party for a long time. And also partly, we know the establishment will blame progressives and the left if when Joe Biden loses. So let's not give them any fucking ammo right now. That's also part of it. So it's just, I, yeah. did an version of this which is like joe biden has never run as if he wanted the enthusiasm of people like me so i hope he's right like even before this fucking 2020 fucking every single
Starting point is 00:37:33 time he's done anything politically he's made it very clear he does not give a shit about someone like me yeah so i don't particularly give more or less of a shit about him now i guess right it's just like he is who he's been who he is the whole time yeah he's been who he is the whole time yeah and and and his platform has always been well since he's been this presidency has always been trump bad me better that's that's his platform yeah he's like you want to hear policy i don't know but look i don't want to talk about policy but have you seen donald trump yeah and you're like when we all and we've been saying this frustratingly for the last two years about how the democrats are not selling anybody on a vision of anything they're merely just juxtaposing themselves
Starting point is 00:38:21 with the right and saying this is scarier than this right okay so let's just fucking shut up about everything and keep it moving and yeah what they don't want to admit is if the republican side ran literally anybody else yeah slam dunk win for them it would also be god i can't remember who tweeted this but this was amazing like like joe biden really is like taking lesser of two evils to the very limit yeah like he's he's just like he's like in like i'm not touching you levels of technically being better than trump right yeah yeah like better yeah better, good. And that's the thing is like also to like, I think a lot of voters are not necessarily as entrenched or
Starting point is 00:39:12 observing everything that's happening in the government or with foreign policy as you know, as like we might be your listeners of the show. So a lot of people's calculus is completely different. You know what I mean? Like we're like, yo, we need to fucking hold the line on making sure that like the fucking, the fucking famine stops in Gaza that we actually have, like, maybe we can do away with something like qualified immunity. Maybe we can do something about, you know, this, that, and the other thing. But yeah, a lot of people's other calculus when they're just presented with, well, they're going to do this scary shit, then yeah, it's's more obvious and i think that's what makes it so difficult to you know like sort of intellectually understand yes biden is the better choice i also i want to fucking feel like we're like we're hurt that people's needs are fucking
Starting point is 00:39:57 met and i think that's the other existential factor about all this that isn't being acknowledged which is with some of the more social like policies that, you know, Bernie and the squad and AOC are saying, like, maybe he should lean into. But I think at the end of the day, I don't know how much that's going to really move people, because to most people, it's just been presented as it cannot be Trump. It can't. And that's it. Full stop.
Starting point is 00:40:18 I mean, if you are asking me, Jackie's what? Here's your choices. Would you rather be shot at point-blank range with a sawed-off shotgun, or would you rather be shot at point-blank range with a pistol?
Starting point is 00:40:35 I would rather not be shot, but if you're going to make your choice, shoot me with the pistol. Because I know I'm going to die with the sawed-off. So, like, you know, that's the that is the choices and i know that's an extreme analogy but like but if you said what if i don't get shot they're like oh so you want to get shot with a shotgun that's right oh so you're pro shotgun no forget it never mind fine shoot me with a pistol but like let's swing the focus over to
Starting point is 00:41:02 donald trump because the the rnc they just held their platform committee meeting. So this is the place where delegates from across the country come to meet and formally assemble and amend the party's official platform. And in normal times, amendments are offered, there are debates, and then they all come to the conclusion that immigrants are bad and Jesus is the most handsome, but these are not normal times. He's the whitest God available. Oh yeah, baby. Oh yeah. We know it. I mean, we've seen it, baby. So these are not normal times. As we know, Trump has fully taken over the party. And in 2020, the RNC didn't even have the committee meet. They were just like, we all believe in Trump. So like whatever he wants is the platform. And that's just what they went with. Then he lost and a lot of people were pissed. And it seems that this year they're doing like they're having this committee meeting again to make sure like make all the delegates feel all warm and fuzzy inside as if they're needed.
Starting point is 00:42:01 But it ended there because apparently this year's platform talks went really bad for the anti-abortion activists on the committee because Trump has decreed that the party's official stance for the first time in decades is that they will oppose a federal abortion ban and basically leave it to the states. This is a clip from this long time Gail Ruzicka, who is an RNC platform committee member from Utah. She was interviewed right after this platform committee meeting had occurred and asking, like, so what happened? Were you guys, like, do you guys get any words in? This was her description of how it all went down.
Starting point is 00:42:37 This never happened before. Like I said, I've done this several times. There was no committees. We always had subcommittees where we can go in and work on a section of the platform. We can propose amendments, debate them, add them. Always happens. I've done it many times. And then it would usually take today and then tomorrow we would come back and meet as a
Starting point is 00:43:00 complete platform and sometimes there would be more amendments. They didn't allow any amendments. They didn't allow any discussion. Uh, they rolled us. They rolled us, got rolled up like a fresh pack of Zaha. Uh, yeah, that's what happens. Uh, when Donald Trump controls everything, the 2016 party platform mentioned abortion 34 times. The 2024 platform mentions it once. And this revelation immediately caused a meltdown in the evangelical Jesus freak Trump supporter base. He's been courting since 2015. Because if you remember on the record, Donald Trump was like pro-choice until he had to court the evangelical vote in 2015, going into 2016. And so there's Chad Conley, who is the former chair of the South Carolina GOP.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And he's also like one of these guys who like, he has all these religious ties that he's able to round up votes for Trump. He said, quote, it is fair to say that over 1000 pastors have emailed, texted and called me about their disappointment over where they saw the platform going. The words I'm hearing are shocked, betrayed, trampled, depressed, deflated. Most pastors I know don't want Biden and will still probably vote for Trump. But this hurts the energy needed for those folks to do the things it takes to help elect a president. Wow, we're all in the same boat. Okay. for those folks to do the things it takes to help elect a president. Wow, we're all in the same boat. What I will just say, though,
Starting point is 00:44:28 is like, these guys are Trump's version of Biden's leftist or people who don't want a center right government. Except he delivered for these fucking people. They actually got Roe v. Wade
Starting point is 00:44:44 overturned. he gave them straight up what they wanted and now they just want more because they're fucking obviously in the platform i'm pretty sure when they talk about that decision he was like the dobbs ruling he's like it hadn't said it happened quote because of us so that's like how he's trying to basically be like look y'all got your shit you know know what I mean? Like, keep it moving. Like, and because also it's clear Trump, oh, another person, Tony Perkins from the absolutely heinous Family Research Council action said,
Starting point is 00:45:12 quote, the right to life transcends other political debates and the interests of any and all political parties and candidates. This is a group that the SPLC has labeled a like a full on hate group. But anyway, the people are angry. And again,
Starting point is 00:45:25 it's clear. Trump has seen like many of us that the, the anti-abortion thing has only led to nonstop else. Like when it comes to elections, there's just, you're not, you're just not fucking winning on that. And that's definitely fueling the pivot.
Starting point is 00:45:40 But I also see this like as another power consolidation move because trump is fully taking over the party typically the gop had to bow to the evangelicals in terms of like figuring out like well we got we need them on board so whatever they want we also have to factor in as our this is part of our winning coalition so i think to doing this and icing them out lessens their influence and you know i think that's exactly what he wants to see now well obviously i'm they're not voting for joe biden so this sounds like a lot of complaining and also it is weird that they ever about because it just still is like the fuck you're gonna do about it yeah well i mean that's like where you know in the late 70s and 80s they're
Starting point is 00:46:22 like man we we're losing bro. So like, I think we can get these freaks activated if we just start saying this shit. And then they, and then they caught the, the dog caught the car and the jig is up. Wait,
Starting point is 00:46:33 that's another fucking obvious reason for Joe Biden. It's like, Hey, maybe we should get a presidential candidate on the democratic side who will say the right to abortion is important. Or like, I will restore it. Like, right. This motherfucker. candidate on the democratic side who will say the right to abortion is important or like i will restore it like right this motherfucker like he still just wants the worst white people on earth he thinks he could peel off three percent of them and win the election that way but i think also too
Starting point is 00:46:59 this whether this is intentional or not these these are the kinds of optics you want to try and seem more reasonable like you want the splc designated hate group to be like i'm outraged by what trump is doing and now suddenly it's like oh shit well maybe yeah maybe he does have a mind maybe he is reasonable he is not but again this is the kind of shit that if you're getting into the real like strategy of like how things are perceived this is the kind of shit that if you're getting into the real like strategy of like how things are perceived this is probably seen as a win on some level because yeah you're yeah you want to make it seem like yeah the hate groups fucking hate me man because i'm well this is this is where this is the one time strategically like trump being a liar
Starting point is 00:47:39 paid off for him was yeah he fucking lied to those people he doesn't give a shit one way or the other about abortion right now i i honestly i was fully expecting him to i didn't watch the full debate i only saw clips so i don't know if this was even said or not or if they even brought up like the middle east or anything like that but i was fully expecting trump to be on some like and you know what actually right you know free palestine just on some bullshit just to be like all that miriam adelson money would go poof i know he did he did worse worse than that yeah yeah yeah totally yeah that was by the way an example of doing stuff the white people way wrong which is I was hanging out with one of my relatives, white fiancés.
Starting point is 00:48:27 We're hanging out at a family thing, and this motherfucker insisted on playing clips from the debate while it was happening. I was like, I don't want to hear any of this. Right. This is fucking, oh, you got to be informed. You want to make a decision. To me, the world where this debate could swing anything is what the fuck kind of person is crazy town like how dumb do you have to be to be like i gotta it's up in the air i don't know yeah that's what i'm saying like because i i'm like the polls really didn't
Starting point is 00:48:56 move out like in terms of who's gonna vote for who the polls only moved and people be like yeah he's fucking old yeah yeah but guess what i'm i've already been thoroughly freaked out about a trump presidency that like yeah whatever man just can we fucking is it gonna not is it gonna be or is it gonna stop trump or not yeah that's like game of thrones style just the president regent while the while the president recuperates at his golden throne we shall send out the young prince to speak at his stead. That's right, Hunter Biden, 2024. Hell yeah.
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Starting point is 00:52:31 My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you and we're back as we mentioned earlier this week it is shark week right now uh the annual event is being hosted by none other than john cena john chena i always have to i feel like i always have to do the sound the last time is now baby The last time is now, baby. The last time is now. Retirement. Question for you, Jack East, because I know you're a big wrestling fan. Yeah. What do you,
Starting point is 00:53:11 comparing The Rock to John Cena in terms of like acting? Oh, man. I had this, I had this full conversation with someone recently. Yeah. It was like the, oh, the Batista,
Starting point is 00:53:21 the Rock, the John Cena, you know. Yeah. It's very popular to hate The Rock right now. So I will say that. Not even hate him.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I'm just saying who's... No, not you. I'm just saying that's where the conversation... Who do you pick? Who do you pick as your best? As far as acting goes or like wrestling? No, acting. Oh, acting.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Like their career post-wrestling. So here's the thing. Here's the thing with John Cena, with the Rock. I think a lot of people forget this part. And this is my answer. A lot of people forget this part. This is my answer. A lot of people forget this part, but The Rock has been acting for 23 years.
Starting point is 00:53:54 That's a long fucking career. And I'm talking in Hollywood, not WWE movies, but in Hollywood. And The Rock was very much kind of like a Will Smith. And what I mean by that was is that the rock being really the first true crossover actor i know there's the hulk hogan's the roddy roddy pipers and all those people but the true first actor who literally crossed over
Starting point is 00:54:19 and was like you know what i'm not even the rock no more call me by my real fucking name yeah like he was calculated in that and so the rock breaking down all those doors and barriers and john cena has talked about this himself like he his calculation was i am going to be a movie star right whereas john cena and batista who's a fantastic actor get to take a little bit more risks because there is a road for them to drive down. Right. So if you are. And so The Rock doesn't take risks because he doesn't have to, nor did he want to. And I think he started to after he had a couple of failures and his ego is it. But John Cena has been able to take more risks. Batista has been able to take more artistic risks because nobody was looking at Batista to break down barriers.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Is he going to make it or not? Nobody was doing that for him. But who's the best actor? So the best actor of all three of those, I would say from what we've seen, Batista has the best artistic repertoire. And then between John Cena and
Starting point is 00:55:24 The Rock, I think John Cena right now is taking more fun risks than The Rock is. But I think if you are going to ask me who is the best out of all three of them, I'm going to say it's the person that literally was able to leave wrestling and completely leave it behind him and open the doors
Starting point is 00:55:46 for like everybody else like that it takes talent to do that so he's not untalented he's just no no i don't think he's on top no no he's not so i think he's a better actor i want to see i want to see him do something a little like more like how cena did blockers like i want to see the rock do something like well here's the thing he has he has go back to his 2000 movies go back to pain and gain go back to like it's just but he was still kind of like the rock you know he still had that like that not in pain and gain energy wait the one that was with uh when they went to the amazon and shit pain and gain no that's the that's the mark walberg ate like the one where they were on steroids. The bodybuilding one. It's the Michael Bay.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Oh, yeah, yeah, this one. I didn't see this one. He's funny in it? No, he's just not funny at all. He's a fucking crackhead. Right, right, right. He's on drugs. He took some really big risks in the 2000s.
Starting point is 00:56:43 But once Fast Five came out and he was like oh i can be steroided up and still make a lot of money he was like bet movie star yeah right right for sure yeah i i think he is actually riding the wave perfectly because he still got it enough and has built up a good he's managed to make money while building up bad will to... Whenever he chooses to do a fucking, I don't know, Benny Safdie movie or whatever, it's going to be...
Starting point is 00:57:14 People are going to lose their fucking minds. He's in that A24 movie right now that's filming. The John Cena's, the Batista's, great. But let The Rock come with one movie where motherfuckers are like, oh, God damn. Yeah. There's one where he cries and or is hurt.
Starting point is 00:57:32 Yeah. And or something bad happens to him. And he does have a Victor Agnes. Doesn't he have a no lose clause in his contract? And I'm almost sure he does. But I would probably say The Rock being a smart person after Black Adam and all the shit that happened with that. He's probably going to get rid of Klaus. I mean, that was an L.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That was an L. Whatever the contract said, you did lose. Well, anyway, this isn't about John Cena, really, but it is about the thing he's hosting, Sharknado. We really got sidetracked. We got sidetracked. It's just something I've always been thinking and on when i was talking about the other day i was just really like oh i'm just curious from like especially someone from like jockeys who yeah i was like he might be the human being i know that knows most about the question you just asked yeah no exactly exactly and i just wanted to posit that because it's something i'm always
Starting point is 00:58:22 like i'm always surprised at seeing like the the roles these other wrestlers take and they suddenly like oh shit look at you with some little some seen by far taking better roles and he's like he his movies are way more fun to watch right i did see a movie recently where he played like a retired mercenary who's like trying to get his family bad that was bad but i watched the whole thing because I was on an airplane. So Shark Week, back to Shark Week. It is. I didn't realize that. I know it's a big thing, but I didn't realize how it is like massive for the Discovery Channel.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Dating back to 88, it is the longest running cable TV programming event in history. When it first aired, it basically doubled discovery channel's ratings and they're like oh shit we got something here and it's still fucking popular and last year over 22 million viewers tuned into shark week but again a lot of like shark experts are like ah the thing about shark week here let's really get into it a lot of like experts are like it's filled with misinformation and glorifies what they call wildlife harassment and also as they say quote rarely features women scientists or scientists of color in leading roles it's always like some white guy who like and a lot of like other shark researchers like even have groups like sort of address like the
Starting point is 00:59:40 iniquities and how like people who work with sharks are being represented in media. But they also have a history about just putting on total bullshit and then being defensive about it. So in 2013, they aired a show called Megalodon, The Monster Shark Lives, all about the extinct shark that fought Jason Statham that, well, a couple of times, I guess. A bunch of them fought Jason Statham. Bro, I fuck with them those movies they're terrible but i love a big ass shark i don't know what it is fucking every time i'm like i'm i don't know why um you want it on a on a skewer with a little tzatziki yeah delicious lemon oh of course of course i mean if we're if we're going mediterranean it must have lemon it must have olive oil parsley oregano anyway so this like megalodon the monster shark lives it didn't just like skew the facts
Starting point is 01:00:31 it's basically a fucking mockumentary featuring like they had actors playing scientists they have photoshopped pictures faked digital video and there was a brief disclaimer but the fact that this like work of fiction presented as if it were a genuine documentary was basically was understandably very confusing for viewers. Because at no point really outside of this brief disclaimer in this documentary is it mentioned that it was fictional ever at all. I mean, if you saw the fine print real quick, then yeah. And that had a lot of people being like, oh, shit fuck the fucking megalodon lives and that i think that was the intention because the discovery channel then ran a poll asking viewers if they believe the megalodon was still alive even though it is very much extinct and 73 of the people said yes it is alive for sure uh and others said no the scientists are
Starting point is 01:01:29 right was the two options basically and so when people called this out the discovery channel responded by gaslighting everybody even though like the scientific community again is certain that these sharks are extinct the network claimed well quote there's still debate and asked who really knows what's happening with the megalodon like this is some q anon shit now if there wasn't debate why would you be asking me therefore no one knows yeah but i'm saying and also but how can we really know hey how can you prove uh that something doesn't exist it's very hard um but then the next year discovery doubled down on this megalodon thing and they re-aired the previous show and then they added a whole new fucking fake documentary
Starting point is 01:02:16 and they were like people were like this is the same thing you're doing. And then in 2018, they said, we will quote promise to be more quote science and research focused. In 2018, they put out a special that was fact checking the 2013 Megalodon mockumentary. You made the fucking thing. That's so funny. It's really wild. Tim Robinson hot dog sketch it's like right oh who could have done such a thing who could have done this i have no idea we'll never know we'll never know and then like like last year they aired cocaine sharks i can't believe i fucking missed cocaine
Starting point is 01:03:01 sharks because they were trying to ride the cocaine bear wave where marine biologists like attempted to simulate like what it would be like if sharks basically were like scarfing down fucking bales of cocaine and lost their shit. And it was like very stupid. They're like, we're going to observe any like we're like we're going to go to this place where drug smugglers have used to traffic cocaine and see if we observe anything. And they kind of like didn't see anything. Then they put like white bundles like like in the water with like a fake swan to be like, maybe they'll eat it. And they didn't seem like they were that into it at all. And I'm shocked that at this point, given their ethics, they are not just actually giving a shark cocaine. Right.
Starting point is 01:03:46 And just being like, well, this is the thing, Andrew, because they're probably smart enough to know that, like, researchers have said cocaine would act more as a, quote, anesthetic than a stimulant with shark. And then I was like reading it like it's a quote. A few studies done with cocaine shows that it affects fish really differently than it affects humans. What was doing this fucking research they're like hey man let's get this goldfish some cocaine let's see what yeah it's like here dude i dropped my i dropped an eight ball into a fish tank man i'm trying to get my fuck can i can i get reimbursed for that i can kind of make a study out of it it looked like they were just more chilled out than like freaking out i should have met a scene in scarface where he's like sprinkling little shit over uh oh yeah look man i know over an aquarium i know i know there's gonna be some animal lover and i'm an animal
Starting point is 01:04:33 lover as well but there's gonna be an animal lover who's not gonna like what i'm gonna say but if the worst thing i can do for one day is give cocaine to a bunch of fish i would do that shit in a heartbeat because that shit seems like but the thing is there's all their research has been done jackie so they're not going to suddenly be doing tiktok dances and asking you to invest in nfts they just thought all right well then i'll give it to bears cocaine bear yeah give it to the bears baby because they know how to fuck they know how to fuck they know how to fuck shit up just by the way reading between the lines and speculating about not to get into more hollywood bullshit yeah that's how we started uh started the segment but
Starting point is 01:05:11 the fact that this is like so gangbustersy ratings wise and it's my discovery if you know it's like that meme of like the little fucking you know the dominoes getting progressively bigger but this is why almost certainly why fucking david zaslav runs warner brothers and hbo now and if you're curious why movies feel like they're terrible it's because the man who shark mr shark who oversaw shark week and these weirdo lies also i will just say the fact that this many people watch this tells me not enough people have training with weed because clearly do something more creative
Starting point is 01:05:52 with your hate weirdo watches than Shark Week. This is so preposterously lazy. Get high and do something else. I truly have never understood Shark Week. And I know it's big and I feel like I'm in the minority on this. And I don't hate it.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I don't hate it. I'm not saying, like, no, but I get why it's big. I just, I've never, like, partaken in, like, the excitement of it personally. And it surprises me that it's so big. I always forget that it's coming up until it's here. And then I'm like, man, people really fuck with Shark Week. like and i always say maybe this year i'll give it a chance and then like nothing compels me to do it but like yeah this is like i think it's like it's the that's what she said people who love it it's like oh shark week's coming up i'm like right right man like
Starting point is 01:06:39 have your fun but maybe yeah it feels almost like reflexive like it's a habit where it's like oh shark week i just put it on half the time I'm just so checked out Bro it's so funny It's so funny bro These are some of the specials that they're airing Belly of the Beast, Bigger and Bloodier Jaws vs Leviathan Makozilla
Starting point is 01:06:58 Sydney Harbor Shark Invasion Big Shark Energy Shark Frenzy, Mating Games Great White Serial Killer Sea of Blood, Deadliest Bite invasion big shark energy shark frenzy mating games great white serial killer sea of blood deadliest bite half of these things just sound like the same show but you're just giving it a different fucking title that's the 6 000 pound shark monster hot hammerhead species x this this does explain why this motherfucker thought ai could write original television yeah because this is all they've been doing there's's also one called The Real Sharkano.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Sharkano, yeah. What do you mean The Real Sharkano? Was there a Sharkano movie? Never. That's what Shark Week should be. They should lean into Shark Week being entertainment. Give us shark movies. Give us shark TV shows. Do documentaries about
Starting point is 01:07:41 Jaws. And I know they probably do that, but the actual like learning about sharks and all this type of it's like how much more can we fucking learn like they not changing no now you just like it's basically watch shark's fuck shit up week yeah you know and that's fine
Starting point is 01:07:57 and then if that's what you're gonna do lean into that shit I wanna like do a reality show where you put a motherfucker who can't swim in an ocean and be like, try to get away from the shark. John Cena fights a shark. The shark is played. John Cena fights a shark. Could John Cena knock out a shark?
Starting point is 01:08:14 Bro, just tie the shark up and let John Cena take his hardest fucking punch and F5 and attitude adjust him and see what the shark would do. I would watch that shit. If you're speculating about giving sharks cocaine, you might as well just do a fucking hell in a cell match
Starting point is 01:08:30 with a shark. Seriously. Give a shark a pound of weed and see what it does. How much genetic engineering would it take to make a street shark for real? Oh, yeah. And it wears cut-off jean shorts like the street sharks did? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:44 And a skateboard? Make a show with, like, what do you call it when, like, things that aren't usually, like, human, like, act as human? Amphorbic? What's that word? Anthropomorphic shark. Give me some anthropomorphic shark and some anthropomorphic jets
Starting point is 01:08:59 and, like, let's see them fight. Like, I want to see... Mutant West Side Story. Seriously, I want to see. Mutant West Side Story. Seriously, I want to see some dope shit. Like, lean into it. Can a shark dance? Bro, give me a shark that's up here. Maria. Dancing with the sharks.
Starting point is 01:09:14 There you go. Dancing with the sharks. The shark singer. You better hit that choreo, Great White. You better hit that. Five, six, seven, eight. Well, Andrew T. Jockeys, thank you so much for joining me today.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Andrew, where do the people find you, follow you, listen to you, and what is a tweet or other work of media that you're enjoying? Yeah, well, I do the podcast, Yo, Is This Racist? And we have a premium section called Suboptimal Pods.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And we just launched a new show with me and some people might know Jessica Gao. She created She-Hulk. She's very funny. But we are doing a low, I can't stress this enough, low stakes, who can make most money gambling challenge. We're calling it the Goumbler. So far, it's me playing Tencent Poker versus her scratch-off tickets. We just recorded the first episode.
Starting point is 01:10:03 And we'll get that out there. I might not win. I should win, but I might not. It only takes one good ticket to really blow my Tencent poker out of the window. Oh yeah, you got your tweet? Okay. It's almost certainly been a
Starting point is 01:10:20 ride-out on this show, but because I never pay attention, it's new to me. The Jazz Fusion Minoru Moriwaka. I'm assuming you're a fan. a ride out on this show but because i never pay attention it's new to me the jazz fusion minoru moroaka uh i'm assuming you're a fan but it's it's sort of like jazz fusion uh with a lot of traditional japanese instruments oh it's the kind of music that you like you like listen to to the album the album i've been listening to is called bamboo from late 70s and it's the kind of thing where you're like oh if this dude didn't exist the rizza would just be deleted from the timeline like it's just completely like oh right oh shit bamboo flutes and like jazz fusion
Starting point is 01:11:00 standards it's great oh i love that jackie'sal, thank you so much for helping me host today. Where do the people find you, follow you, support you? And what is a tweet that you like? Oh, you can always find me in these streets, baby. But I am. I'm around in the corner. I'm on my way home. I'm on my way home, y'all. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Just letting you know. At Jacquees Neal on everything. You know, the Comedian Fuse show that I run is is going to be we're on a hiatus right now but when we come back it's going to be kick-starting a pretty dope year of growth for the show so we have been forced to create an instagram account for it so go follow that comedian feud boom we're gonna do some doing some dope shit uh over the next year um not only here in la but in other places as well so uh be ready for that okay and then uh yeah baby that's about it uh nothing nothing crazy to report as far as new shit to to uh that you can watch you know
Starting point is 01:12:03 got some commercials that might be airing pretty soon that you can watch. Okay. As the year goes on, don't hit those skips, man. Pay for the ads, baby. There you go. And then as the year goes on, there'll be some more shit to talk about. Any media tweets that you like? Yes. So
Starting point is 01:12:21 on Twitter, you know the Kurt Angle meme, the meme where he's like just kind of looking, you know, with the smirk on his face and the eyes and things like that. You know, the meme I'm talking about now, which one is is is that me? Oh, oh, yeah. Is that Kurt Angle? The Kurt Angle. Kurt Angle is a former wrestler, Olympic medalist and everything like that. If you don't know the Kurt Angle meme, if you're listening to this, go look it up. It's very popular and see how people are using it. And then this will probably be funnier to you. But Kurt Angle used that meme and captioned it, the face I make when I ask my wife for some hot tour time and then hashtag is true. And then right under it is this post has been deleted. And Kurt Angle quote tweeted it.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Your Olympic hero is in the doghouse right now. It was funny. So he wrote that tweet and his wife was like, delete that shit. Kurt Angle is one of the funniest like pro wrestlers like of all time. That tweet, his wife was like, delete that shit. He deleted it. Cardago is one of the funniest pro wrestlers of all time. And I love him. He's so funny. But that shit cracked. That shit killed me.
Starting point is 01:13:33 This post that's been deleted makes so many tweets that much funnier. Dude, deleted tweets are the lifeblood of the internet, for sure. Some tweets I'm liking. Let's see. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? First one, at exhaustdata tweeted, saying Fergalicious when I mean Kafka-esque.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And then at svcarboholic tweeted, and this is for all my footy fans out there uh you know France just crashed out of the Euros at the hands of Spain rather at defeat of Spain Laminia Mall became one of the actually the youngest scorer in the Euros shout out to him uh but uh at SV Carboholic tweeted please don't be putting Kylian Mbappe's name next to Thierry Henry anyone who watched both will tell you who was comfortably the better footballer and I stand on that we all know Thierry Henry is the greatest French striker but look Kylian Mbappe oh you got time you got time I thought you were gonna say the tweet that was like don't blame him you can't the France can't expect the left wing to save them twice in one year yeah yeah yeah yeah no oh that's amazing i did not see that yeah uh you hate to see
Starting point is 01:14:47 it folks but hey uh killian you did get him a world cup so you're still in it you're still in it uh you can find me at miles of gray on twitter and instagram you can find jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack i'm at boosties you can find me talking 90 day fiance on 420 day fiance with sofia alexandra and uh you can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We've got a Facebook fan page, a website, DailyZeitgeist.com. We post our episodes in our footnotes. Footnotes?
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