The Daily Zeitgeist - Cool Restaurants Persecuting GOP? Tom Arnold Won’t Save Us 6.25.18

Episode Date: June 26, 2018

In episode 176, Jack and special guest co-host Dani Fernandez are joined by Yo Is This Racist's Andrew Ti to discuss Netflix firing their PR chief for using the N-word, ABC's reboot of Roseanne called... 'The Connors,' Sarah Huckabee Sanders being kicked out of a restaurant, Permit Patty calling the police on an eight year old for selling water, Tom Arnold taking on the Trump administration, a look at the box office from this past weekend, a world update, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season,
Starting point is 00:00:18 we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. In 1982, Atari players had one game on their minds, Sword Quest, because the company had promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared, leading to one of the biggest controversies in 80s pop culture. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Carrie Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:20 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
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Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. All right. Yes. For June 25th, 2018. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka It Feels Like O'Brien. It feels like potatoes, O'Brien. That is courtesy of Why Not Matty B on Twitter. And I am thrilled to be joined by today's co-host, one of the funniest stand-ups and commentators on geek culture,
Starting point is 00:02:33 one of the hosts of Nerdificent, a podcast right here on this very network. Cheers, Dani Fernandez! Yeah! Yo, yo! A.K.A. Daka Khan. Daka Khan. I like that. I like that. I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:02:46 I was going to say 101 Danmations. Oh, I like that, too. Daka Khan might be left over from... Really? It still works for me. Yeah. There you go. 101 Danmations.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Danmations. I wanted to say thank you also for getting our name right, Nerdificent. Yes. It's literally people. It's just Magnificent with nerd on it. But you would be surprised whenever we go on other shows and they're like, Nerdificent. I can't get Carl Tart saying Nerdtastic out of my head. It's hard to not hear that, I'm sorry. Yes, Carl Tart inceptioned the world with mispronunciations of nerdificent and now he
Starting point is 00:03:26 really effed you guys but i heard it i knew the title before i heard that from carl tart so i still think it's insane that anybody would mispronounce nerdificent which is just magnificent like you said hey who's that third voice talking right there that That is our guest today. In our third seat, he is the hilarious host of one of the great podcasts out there. He was this racist. Just one of the funniest dudes talking into a microphone. He is Mr. Andrew T. What up? I never have a song, a.k.a., but here's my a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Yes, just like T.I., the rapper. Nice. Andrew T.I., T.I. Cool. Well, Andrew, we're excited to get toI., the rapper. Nice. Andrew, T.I., T.I. Cool. Well, Andrew, we're excited to get to know you some more. Yeah. Before we do that, we like to give our listeners a rundown of what we're going to be talking about today. We're going to talk about the firing of Netflix's PR chief for some...
Starting point is 00:04:21 Being dumb as hell. There you go. for some- Being dumb as hell. There you go. We are going to talk about ABC clearly being fans of this podcast because they're making the exact show that I suggest they make 20 minutes
Starting point is 00:04:32 after they fired Ray Grant. Get those royalties. Get those royalties. We are going to talk about just the escalating culture wars, how the right is now feeling more persecuted than ever because Sarah Sanders could not finish her cheese plate
Starting point is 00:04:47 at the Red Hen. We're going to talk about Permit Patty. We're going to talk about the face of the resistance, Mr. Tom Arnold. And we're going to talk about the big weekend box office, boffo bio, baby. And we're going to have an update in the realm of sports. But first up, Andrew, we'd like to ask our guest,
Starting point is 00:05:11 what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So this one is, we'll presage our further discussion a little bit, but the last thing I searched was a Google image search because I was in a Twitter war with some racists. That's what I do. This weekend, right? Yeah, this weekend. So I searched Jim Crow restaurants
Starting point is 00:05:29 because I needed to have an image, like a white only image to just finally drop the mic on people. Right, yeah. And it didn't work as well as I'd hoped because there were all these people kind of equivocating and it was off the mealy mouth.
Starting point is 00:05:43 How is not serving Sarah Sanders any different than not serving uh gay folks or whatever and of course i can't see a single difference exactly yeah moving on from that but you know nominally in a vaguely less fucked up society the mic drop would be like well you're basically arguing for you know it gets to jim crow like if owners can do whatever they want which is what a lot of these guys were arguing would be like, well, you're basically arguing for, you know, it gets to Jim Crow. Like if owners can do whatever they want, which is what a lot of these guys were arguing. And my problem, this is where I, my, uh, small remaining faith in humanity really bit me in the ass is I would drop that. And people would be like, yeah, I think that's correct. There should be, it should be legal to have white only restaurants. And I was like, right. Oh, okay. I'm arguing with, you know, unrepentant racists.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I forgot. I should have known, but I don't know. You were arguing with actual Pepe. Yeah. But see, I really thought I could shame them with that shit. You can't shame them. That doesn't work. Well, they came in like on the, you know, libertarian front.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And usually you can shame libertarians by like pointing out the results of their beliefs because they're arguing from theory land. But you forget that these people are. I feel that way about Christians is because my family is so heavily religious. And I went to Catholic school growing up. And I'm like, oh, I know you because I grew up with you. And I feel like I know how to shame you. And yet you still can't shame someone. They're unshamable.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah. Of course. Well they're already so drenched in shame that they you know like I feel like at least Catholics. Yeah. Sexual shame. Yeah but I'm guilty about everything so what the fuck are you going to say to me? I feel guilty about getting naked to shower this morning. But like libertarians are the opposite. It's like Ben
Starting point is 00:07:24 shameless stay shameless Andrew T is the foremost expert on having Twitter arguments that are just you know he's out there fighting the guy shouldn't do rest of us no man who brought us the term gish-gallop yeah into the zeitgang I did get gish-ish galloped by one of those. It's so easy to gish gallop somebody when you're wrong. Yeah, you just throw out all the lies. Here's an outrageous thing that you would need. There are like 3,000 things wrong with.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Andrew, what's something that's overrated? Oh, man. You know what? I had written this down just before I walked into the studio. Good coffee, severely overrated. Wow. But actually the coffee you guys have here is pretty good yeah uh-huh i had because i was like man fuck coffee i hate it and then i was like oh yeah this is actually so yeah i'm sticking with my coffee i'm taking i'm taking i'm sticking with good coffee though though. Overrated. Yeah, I was at a dinner party yesterday, and one of the...
Starting point is 00:08:28 I will say this. It was at a previous Daily Zeitgeist guest's place, but I will leave them nameless because her partner was going on a little too hard about how good the coffee setup they have is, and I was like, damn. Coffee snobs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I just can't get to that level of connoisseurship. And so I was like, you're right. It's good. It's bean water. Yeah, yeah. But right. It's not that. It's bean water, Jack.
Starting point is 00:08:57 But it's just not good enough to, anytime you have. To be a snob about that. I think it's a digital scale. That's like, if you have a digital scale, you best be putting cocaine on that stuff right it's true wait they put coffee on a digital scale yeah because they're like this is the perfect amount yeah you need you need like 40 grams of beans to go with x liters of water that is madness i'm just saying it's insane i just want like a an unmarked Starbucks cup of coffee. No, I mean to show up and then just throw you in the back.
Starting point is 00:09:32 For your blasphemy. I just can't. So I always eyeball it, and that gets me in trouble sometimes. That's right. Most days, Super Producer Sophie Lichterman will come up and be like, damn, the coffee's good today.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Some days, super producer Anna Hosnier, who's on the other end of the honesty scale, will come up and be like, what the fuck
Starting point is 00:09:55 did you put in the coffee today? Jesus Christ. But I always put the same thing, a little Starbucks and then some toasted almond to top it off. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I find that that helps. You have a proprietary blend. And it's just toasted almond flavored coffee. It's not like I put toasted almonds in there. It's really good. Here's what I will say though. There is also like, did you see that thing? I'm sure this feels like something that's very in your wheelhouse daily zeitgeist
Starting point is 00:10:20 style. That like the top two complaints in offices are like it's too hot is number one. And number two is it's too cold. Like, no one. It's just like everyone's miserable in offices at all times. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yeah. Too many people are talking to me. Yeah. Nobody is talking to me. Too quiet. Yeah. So basically, that's the coffee situation you're in. It's like, can't please everyone.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Can't please Super Producer on a hose, as they say. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, over-the-counter drugs. Okay. I'm really one of those people that's like,
Starting point is 00:10:53 I don't need that. And also, I'm sure subconsciously part of me believes that, like, because it's over-the-counter, it can't be strong enough to do anything. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:11:02 But yeah, I'm having, like, we're in a kind of bad smog time in LA. Always, always. Well, but today's, or like the last three days, I thought it was really bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And I was like, all weekend, I was like, I think I'm sick. And then I was like, I think I just, I'm having like allergies. Okay. So I took Allegra. Hell yeah. And I instantly got better.
Starting point is 00:11:24 And I was like, oh, God damn it. These things work. Yeah. And similarly, last winter and cold season, I just took some, I don't know. I'm just one of those people that's like, I don't need that. I don't need that. I don't need that. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:11:35 I need it. Did it knock you out? Does it make you drowsy? Allegra doesn't. Okay, good. Because I am. Benadryl does. Yeah, Benadryl for sure does.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah, maybe it was just changing it up. I'm really bad, Andrew. So I love over-the-counter drugs, but I will cut them in half so that they work quicker. I'm bad. I'm Heisenberg over here. Oh, you grind them up and put them in your gums? I do. I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Does that work? Uh-huh. If you chew the pills, yeah, that'll go right to your bloodstream. I've done it for Excedrin. Don't write me. I don't care. I'm going to die from other things. I'm going to die from this smog.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Excedrin has caffeine in it. Yes, that's why. A couple cups of coffee. If I have a massive migraine, I will cut an Excedrin in half so that it works quicker. And I've done that for, I'm bad. I've done that for Allegra D as well. So that it'll, like if I have to be on camera and I'm super swollen or something, I'll do that. What? And the decongestant will, this is just little tips.
Starting point is 00:12:35 This is cool. Camera ready? Yeah. That's amazing. Take some Allegra or take some Excedrin. Oh my God. Dump myself in an ice bath. I'm just like, here live at a 2018 San Diego Comic Con.
Starting point is 00:12:49 I just didn't. I guess I'm just like, here's what it is. It's an extension of the I don't want to be part of any group that would have me. It's like if they sell it to me in a drugstore, that means it's not good. Yeah. That's, I think, the root of this. They don't even hide it behind the counter. It's just out there.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, they don't have to sign for it. It's nothing. If people in the Midwest haven't figured out a way to get high off of this, then yeah, it's not worth it. It's not real. Yeah. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true?
Starting point is 00:13:19 I wrote this down, and then I'm realizing just as I'm about to read it that this might also have been my myth from an earlier appearance. Did I say before that it's a myth that doctors are scientists? No. I don't think so. It is a myth. They're not scientists. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:34 They're basically mechanics. Very high stakes mechanics and maybe not rightfully compensated, but it's fine that they're highly compensated but the idea that like being a doctor necessarily makes you qualified i mean look it should be obvious because there are creationist doctors dr bennett carson believes that pyramids were made by aliens i believe yeah it's certainly possible to have you know they use science in job, but they use the results of science. They don't have to, they don't have to employ the scientific method in their reasoning and in their, they should, but they don't have to. You can broaden this to people assume that if you're really good at one thing, that makes you good at other things. And Ben Carson is a great brain surgeon,
Starting point is 00:14:25 but that is a purely technical thing that he was able to study and figure out perfectly. But that does not make him good at science at all. Yeah, he's good at executing a brain surgery, but the way his belief system works definitively would not let him discover the underlying process of why the brain surgery works. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Yeah. Exactly. He doesn't do like logic that way. Yeah. Yeah. Doctors are good at their specialty and that's sometimes they're not. Yeah. And also there.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Yeah. There's like all those articles that have come out about how women are treated, like how my ex-boyfriend, his father was a doctor and he always hated whenever I would talk shit about doctors until he started going. Oh, really? Until he started going to my appointments with me and just seeing how, because I have two autoimmune disorders and just seeing how little they care. They treat you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Yeah. And how it's like oh it's just uh it's just anxiety it's like no that's actually i have a clinical reason why my hair is falling out it's not just you got basically it's like prescribed with hysteria yeah yeah no that's that happens so much and i'm in a women's chronic illness group and we talk about how little uh we are validated with our concerns and how often that happens. Yeah. I think that's definitely true. I, uh, my wife is a doctor and it seems to me as an outsider,
Starting point is 00:15:50 the most sexist industry I've ever witnessed. And I've witnessed a lot of them. Uh, it's crazy. We're including the one that we're in. We're in it baby. Yeah. Um,
Starting point is 00:15:59 no, I, that's so funny though. Cause I, I have a lot of physicians in my family and to their credit, they're all like, yeah, it's bullshit. What, being a doctor? Yeah, but they're like, look, it's like we're like mechanics. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:12 We're just mechanics. It's fine. Right. But we're mechanics. Yeah. For sure. I don't know. Totally.
Starting point is 00:16:18 But people do call her and they're like, so I'm having this problem. And it's like, that is not my specialty at at all but yeah uh people do really trust doctors but at the same time listen to doctors when it comes to vaccines guys don't don't listen to well no listen to the scientists right listen to the like the doctors who are scientists who have an overwhelming body of research because that's the other thing you can find MDs that are like, there's something to this vaccine skepticism. Like, that's the thing. They're not scientists.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Right. Yeah, yeah. It was a doctor who started the whole skepticism thing by writing a paper that has been shot for so many holes. Yeah, it's very possible to be an MD without that. Also, don't call them doctors. They're physicians.
Starting point is 00:17:03 There's lots of other doctors. Yeah. Although, yeah, doctors of philosophy, for instance. I mean, those are the real people. And music. Right. Also, well, now there's a terminal degree in nursing. So there are people in hospitals who are doctors of nursing who deserve to be called doctors,
Starting point is 00:17:20 but that causes pretty bad problems. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doctor is probably a word that's used too much for too many things. Yeah. But Dr. J. Not, yeah. Dr. J should be the only doctor. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:33 All right, guys. Physician J. Let's get into the stories of the day. First up, over the weekend, I think it was, or at the end of last week, Netflix fired their PR chief, Jonathan Friedland, who has served as the media giant's chief communications officer for the past six years, was fired for insensitive remarks he made to his team during a meeting about insensitive remarks. Kind of crazy. How did he not see that one coming but uh apparently yeah danny you no i was gonna say so essentially when they were talking about insensitive words he used the n word but he actually said the word as an example yes and and this was something that had happened
Starting point is 00:18:17 repeatedly so they finally fired him it said on at least two different occasions so the first time he did it people came up after the meeting were like, dude, you can't say that word. Even if you're just like this is an insensitive word, you still just say the N word. Don't actually say the word. And he had – yeah, he had multiple people come up after it. And then this most recent time he did it again. So it was like he just – and he's the PR chief. So it was like he just and he's the PR chief.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Like and so they let him go because they said essentially that he just showed this unacceptable level of racial insensitivity. You know, that he just wasn't listening to people there saying, hey, don't say that word. I just find this insane. It's amazing because it's like his job is PR. Because it's like his job is PR. Literally, like, I mean, it's like one thing. And you can sort of argue like he was quoting it or whatever. You can find any number of white guys who are like, well, it's just a quote. I'm just singing along to Drake or whatever. Like, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:19:20 But if your job is to relate to the public which includes everyone like you have to understand that like most people when you count you know people of color as people are not going to be down with this right and like yeah i mean you get i'm sure you get this a lot yeah sort of too much yeah andrew's podcast is him answering questions about whether things are racist. And I just know I've been in conversations where people insist on using the word out loud to like in quotes. But it's clear that there's something underlying there. Yeah. Because they feel like they should be able to say it,
Starting point is 00:20:07 that indicates something about their whole philosophy about like how it's almost like a libertarian sense. I'm like, well, why shouldn't I be able to? Yeah, exactly. I'm not calling anyone that.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I mean, I think the thing is, it's like, but he was speaking to a group of people at his company. That's the thing, though. And they had already corrected him before. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:20:28 And so this was the second time he was doing it. It's like, you just literally don't care then. You don't care that you're making people in your own company uncomfortable. Yeah. I think beyond that, I think he's actively like, if he's anything like all the other white guys that do shit like this, he's like like actively like well how why can't i do it in this context i'm i'm sure when he got fired he was like it was it's not like i was calling someone that right yeah yeah positive that phrase came out of his mouth i i'm just trying to get their
Starting point is 00:20:56 attention and you know yeah be realistic why should i only use people say it right uh what can rappers call each other that yeah yeah that's that that argument doesn't work uh we could spend a whole episode explaining why but it's also like a lot of stuff where you're like you know again i spent the weekend arguing with libertarians it's like these guys are like god i'm comfortable saying guys these guys are are are so into dying on the hill of first degree logical fairness that they can't, their schema can't include history or context.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And it's like, what is wrong with you people? Just like, why, why, why? How could this possibly be an important thing to push? The Netflix CEO Reed Hastings said that his descriptive use of the N-word on at least two occasions at work showed unacceptably low racial awareness and sensitivity and is not in line with our values as a company. I think it even goes back to like, that's literally your job. Yeah, right. I think it even goes back to like, that's literally your job. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:22:10 To understand people and the fact that you can't understand why this upset people the first time that you're doing it again. It's crazy. Chief communications officer. And he was from Disney. He's a former Disney communications executive. Yeah. So I don't even know who knew what conversations he was having back at Disney. You know, like, oh God. There's some news stories.
Starting point is 00:22:24 It was just him and the Dumbo cr oh, God. There's some news stories. It was just him and the Dumbo crows just chilling. There's some news stories. Like, I read a thing about how a lot of mass shooters, the first guy who invented the idea of mass shooting down in Austin was found to have, like, a tumor that was pushing on a part of his brain that causes aggression. And, like, stories like this make me just think, oh, this guy probably has, like, a weird, like, brain that causes aggression. And stories like this make me just think,
Starting point is 00:22:45 oh, this guy probably has a weird brain tumor or something. Because where the fuck does that come from? You're letting him off the hook. No. It's just so... Andrew and I are over here like, no. Let me tell you this. Unless you want to recontextualize the idea
Starting point is 00:23:00 of white male privilege as some sort of disease, which I'm comfortable examining but you can get to this place neurotypically yeah let's just say that's probably true i just want to throw that out there oh yeah it looks like in his statement he said i realize that my privilege has made me intellectualize or otherwise minimize race issues like this it's just so fascinating to me that you live in a world that is so far removed that you're like, oh no, it couldn't have been an actual issue for them, me saying this word. And I think that's another thing.
Starting point is 00:23:32 You're just so out of touch that you don't belong in that position. Not only should you not be saying that word, but you don't belong in that position overseeing other people. Yeah. The chief communicator. If I may take this small moment to pitch a new business venture Yo Is This Racist corporate
Starting point is 00:23:47 for a mere $10,000 a question I will help at a enterprise level with your extremely obvious racism questions Andrew I would love you in Yo Is This Racist casting yeah yeah if he and I talk about
Starting point is 00:24:04 the auditions and things we get asked to do in auditions. Hollywood needs it. Oh, God. I'm just saying. I could have said for only a small investment
Starting point is 00:24:12 of, again, about $10,000, he could have saved his surely six or possibly seven figure job. Probably, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And you only charge, that's $10,000, a meeting, just a consultation. Per question. Yeah, yeah, there you go. I like it $10,000 a meeting, just a consultation. Per question. Yeah, yeah. There you go. I like it.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Even then, small price, drop in the bucket. Seriously. And just briefly, ABC is making The Conners, your welcome world, I guess. Conners. The Roseanne spinoff, sans Roseanne. I suggested the second they canceled the show that they should bring it back. Just Valerie, that shit Valerie was a show on some network in the 80s where they killed off the matriarch and just had it called the Hogan family after that
Starting point is 00:24:57 instead of Valerie and I was just watching the first episode of that show after she died and It's just like same laugh tracks and being like dad mom died six months ago i think it's time for you to get back to work i'm like that's the only reference they make to it it's jason bateman actually uh but yeah so now that it's actually happening is it a good idea should they do this no okay done i feel like i mean think of all the other shows and opportunities they could do as opposed to bringing this it really like it's also just like y'all have not rectified the problem you fired the one the one like symptom roseanne but the disease is definitely still there because y'all greenlit her knowing the first place. Knowing some of her, yeah. The shit she's said in the past. Is this still in here?
Starting point is 00:25:45 I believe it came out that she had been offered the opportunity to continue as long as she deleted her Twitter account. Did you guys see this? No, I didn't know about that. And she elected to keep the Twitter. She's got to be true to herself, Andrew. That's true. As do we all.
Starting point is 00:26:02 As do we all. Yeah, this is part of my theory that Roseanne has a brain tumor. Jack! All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.
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Starting point is 00:28:10 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woo-hoo. That would be me, Devin Simone. And then there's me, Davon Rogers.
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Starting point is 00:28:59 everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast. Everyone is welcome here on MTV's official challenge podcast. So join us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:29:35 I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
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Starting point is 00:30:28 That was fun. So the right is feeling persecuted after Sarah Sanders was confronted by the owner of a restaurant called Red Hen and asked to leave halfway through her cheese plate. Was that what she ordered? Yes. asked to leave halfway through her cheese plate. Was that what she ordered? Yes. When the owner walked in, they were working on a cheese plate,
Starting point is 00:30:50 her and her family and friends. I imagine it was just Kraft Singles. Yes. I think it was like a fancy restaurant. Yeah, I think it's a farm table kind of jam. That's the thing. They're trying to have it both ways. They're like, you know, we- We're the common people.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Right. Like $500 cheese plate. Right. I will say this. a lot of people have been joking about like there was that uh restaurants for sarah hashtag and making fun well that hashtag was more about the names but there was all these jokes and i made some about good luck with those republican restaurants right you know and it's like oh people are like oh it's unseasoned potatoes and whatnot sorry jack uh but can we call you unseasoned potatoes? Unseasoned potatoes.
Starting point is 00:31:25 That will be my AK tomorrow. He uses salt and pepper. I will just say this, though. All joking aside, I'm positive I've had some good ass meals made by racists because I've road tripped across the country. Oh, yeah. In the South? You get some good ass biscuits and you're like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Hell yeah. Texas barbecue. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. And you're like, fuck. Hell yeah, Texas barbecue. Yeah. I mean.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah. So joking aside, I could probably survive for a couple weeks on Republican only restaurants. A thought experiment that I was thinking about over the weekend is, so let's say Obama had gone into a restaurant that was controlled by the far right, the equivalent on the right of what this restaurant equivalent on the right of, you know, what this restaurant is on the left. Like Obama had gone in there with his family and friends. Uh, would we be concerned that he wouldn't be served? I mean, he probably wouldn't be, but I feel like that would be the best case scenario for that interchange. Like I would
Starting point is 00:32:21 be like more worried for his safety than anything oh well I mean look it's also like he's a black dude he wasn't gonna get seated in the first place right that's what I'm saying so but they're acting like there's this unprecedented sort of nature of this like it just feels it feels disingenuous when the side that you're on is also the side that has done this for years and continues to do this and is all about hate. Who's the lady that got shouted out of the Mexican restaurant? Christian Nielsen? Nielsen, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I mean, this is a political party whose president has actively called Mexicans rapists and animals. So no, I don't think that you deserve our food. Specifically, she's like jailing kids. Yes. So no. There was that like, so I, including on last Friday's episode, I believe, there's a lot of hand wringing I feel from people that are like, we're playing into their hands. This is a coordinated media effort. from people that are like we're playing into their hands this is a coordinated media effort like because stephen miller also went to a restaurant and got like asked i think also a
Starting point is 00:33:27 mexican restaurant and was like shouted at and it's like see they're trolling us they're distracting us and i just want to propose an alternate thing which is like it's not four-dimensional chess and it's not thoughtless it's in between it's like they're like oh troll the libs but it's not thoughtless. It's in between. It's like they're like, oh, troll the libs. But it's not like they know how this is going to turn out or that we're distracted from children at the border. If anything, you know, it's super easy to be like, fuck these people. And then, hey, why fuck these people? Oh, yeah, because they have concentration camps. Right. I just don't understand all the hand-wringing about a distraction.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I'm like, it just seems like these guys are all creating pieces of evidence. And sure, it creates enthusiasm on their side for like, oh, the incivility. But also on the non-racist side, relatively non-racist side, there's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:19 it's all a reminder, all evidence. You're just like, yeah, this shit has to stop. And these are all like pieces. There's set dressing and then there's the reality of it, but it's all a reminder, all evidence. You're just like, yeah, this shit has to stop. And these are all like pieces. There's set dressing and then there's the reality of it, but it's all the same thing. I don't know. There was also like a Washington Post thing about like, I believe it was an op-ed and it was, I think it was called Let the Trump Administration Eat in Peace. But there was like one thing that was like, imagine if pro-life people did stuff like
Starting point is 00:34:43 this in the thing. was like imagine if pro-life people did stuff like this in the in the thing and it was like pro the tactics of pro-life people murder doctors yeah guess what we're not we're not a weather underground shit yet so yeah if that happened maybe you'd have a point yeah i get the concern from people saying are we alienating them more Is this creating more of an us versus them environment? There was an article in the New York Times this weekend that the approval rating for Trump among Republicans is now at an all time high for any president among Republicans at this stage of their presidency, except Bush following 9-11. It's at 90. He has a 90% approval rating among Republicans. If I may, though, the other way to state that, and I think I saw this on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:35:30 is Republican president has the highest approval rating among Republicans since the last Republican. That's a really good point. I mean, yeah, okay. He's as high as Bush. The last time they had a crack at this. So that statistic is like, I don't know. There's just like you can describe in a different way.
Starting point is 00:35:47 I believe it's still significant, but come on. Well, and even so, I feel like they have dug in on this us versus them thing. Like the article the New York Times did was interviewing people who were like, yeah, I just feel like it's more of like, you know, the left and the mainstream media criticizing the president. But every single case, it was like, yeah, they know, the left and the mainstream media criticizing the president. But every single case, it was like, yeah, they watch Fox News. They watch Fox News like over and over again. It's always that they watch Fox News. They're dug in. There's nothing. There's absolutely nothing that the people on the left can do that is going to make them come around and be
Starting point is 00:36:21 like, oh, well, we're all Americans, guys. They are only taking culture from Fox News. Fox News is poisonous. It's propaganda. And it's going to create an us first them thing. That is their central narrative. So there's nothing that the left is going to do that is going to make them more or less likely to view the world as us versus them um it's also like all the civility scolds out there i like when you're like oh you have to
Starting point is 00:36:52 see the humanity of someone like a sarah sanders or like a trump voter or the children that are put well yeah that's the thing it's like but i don't think they don't they don't realize that implicitly says yes we can therefore not worry about those children. We're expected to be held to a higher standard and treat them with respect. And yet they don't treat us with respect or other life. Yeah, or humanity or anyone that they don't deem as being protected or whatever. Like that, whatever they said on Fox News where it was like, well, these aren't our kids. You know, like it's like these are children.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And so I agree, Jack, that if they can see those images of those children and those families being torn apart and be fine with it, where nothing we can say can get across to their humanity. Yeah, I don't think. Right. Especially people that call themselves Christians. I'm going to hit that on the head as much as possible because I don't know whatsoever you you do to the least of my people that you do unto me and they just don't I mean I think we're at the dark part where they're starting to tell themselves Those are this must have been what they did though back if you think before the civil or during the civil rights era if you Think of like Southern Baptists. How are they able to?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Rectify that with themselves is that they just didn't see black people as people Yeah, yeah, and they think Christ is white, even though he's not. Okay. That is my rant. He's Korean, of course. Let's talk about Permit Patty, guys. There was a video that went viral over the weekend, and we're going to listen to a little audio from it.
Starting point is 00:38:18 This woman don't want to let a little girl sell some water. She calling police on an eight-year-old little girl. You can hide all you want. The world gonna see you boo yeah and um illegally selling water without a permit on my property it's not your property on my property oh wow um yeah she owns the that that street of san francisco right um so yeah there's if you haven't seen the video uh there's a pissed off looking woman uh on the, you know, on her. Not to be confused with a barbecue Becky. Barbecue Becky.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Now we have Permit Patty. Called the police on an eight year old little girl who was selling water without an official license. Yeah. Just a bad look all around, but just like looks. Well, not all around. Just good looks on the the person who was filming it side right yeah yeah just a bad look all around for permit patty i keep wanting to call her peppermint patty i only just put that together that that's what it's from that's a riff
Starting point is 00:39:15 on that permit patty but yeah i mean and she has already appeared on the today show no word why the today show didn't just get the uh child to come on and be like, yeah, this bitch. Why would the... They brought in Permit Patty because that is who presumably their audience would identify with. Yes, that is so true. Especially the fourth hour of the Today Show. It's a middle-aged white lady. It is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And she was... In their Etsy she was contrite, I guess. Which, by the way, she does have a medicinal marijuana company. She made dog edibles, edibles for... It's like a parody of gentrification. Right. Truly. What are you... Disgusting.
Starting point is 00:40:00 That's her story, is that she sells dog edibles, edibles for dogs who are in pain. Full disclosure, I don't remember her exact brand, but I for sure possibly bought her edibles for my last dog. Aw. R.I.P. Kitty, you're one of the greats. Yeah. I was going to say one of the organizations actually said that they're no longer going to sell her products.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I did see that yeah tweeting that um there's all sorts of great meme memory going around danny you you posted a great meme yeah it's of these two little white kids selling lemonade and then i forgot what this guy's original meme is from but he's basically calling the cops on them and it says me all summer long and then another one um by joa uh which says white folks call 9-1-1 like it's customer service yep it's really oh i mean yeah and and the the obviously the darker side of this is like we've seen police murder children because they called 9-1-1 like some white person called 9-1-1 and so like this a little bit is like at the level i guess it's not exactly the same thing but this needs to start becoming in a conversation on the on par with like swatting like no absolutely calling cops on
Starting point is 00:41:19 black people is adjacent to attempted murder. Like you be, be ready, be like, understand the consequences when you do shit like this. I don't know. Did they arrest somebody or somebody's got charged with manslaughter for swatting somebody? Probably.
Starting point is 00:41:39 I mean, I hope so. If a, if a story like this results in somebody being harmed, that, that should at least be, be possible, be something that you could prosecute somebody for. The little girl was actually, her mom had recently lost her job and she was selling water to help get a trip to Disneyland, which then a stranger bought them tickets to Disneyland after seeing this. Without a permit, Danny.
Starting point is 00:42:04 How many times do I have to say that? And it's also the same, like you're just remarkable, like same small government libertarians are like, well, I mean, of course it's important that, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:15 San Francisco libertarian, like capitalist paradise. Oh, but it's super important that you get a permit from the government to sell water. Right, right. Scum. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:27 So are you saying that the right is not ideologically coherent? Yeah. No way. But the left has their new figurehead. You know, people have been worrying that since Obama left office, the left hasn't had somebody to rally behind. The right has Trump. Well, fear no more because Tom Arnold is on the case.
Starting point is 00:42:48 God. Can we send him back? Where's the receipt? He saw his name trending in the last week and assumed he was arrested for something or dead. He is actually back in the news because he is launching a show on Viceland which that's I feel for Viceland. He's not a YouTube
Starting point is 00:43:12 millennial kid. Why does he get a Viceland show? They lost Jesus and Mero and picked up Tom Arnold's Viceland show. The premise of the show is he's hunting for unflattering video of Trump. So like a modern Indiana Jones, if Indiana Jones was washed up celebrity searching for movies of women peeing on each other. And he got a picture with Michael Cohen in the lobby of Michael Cohen's hotel and turned that into, I think he tweeted that like, hey, it's me and Michael Cohen, we're taking Trump down together.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And claiming that Cohen has, quote, all the tapes on President Trump. And it's just a weird, I don't know, I hope people aren't getting kind of sucked into this. kind of sucked into this because it's obvious that he does not have the tapes for the same reason that you know it's obvious when you're watching a ghost hunter or a bigfoot hunter show that they are not going to in fact discover that extraterrestrial or that uh supernatural life exists because if they did it would not air on not geo at like two in the morning it would not air on Nat Geo at like 2 in the morning it would be like the Pope would be involved in unvailing it and I don't think
Starting point is 00:44:33 that the P tape is going to be revealed on Tom Arnold's Viceland show no it's going to pop up on somebody's Twitter at 1 in the morning right exactly but it's also like it's going to end up on Tumblr first sort of similar to I wonder if it's also like it's gonna end up on tumblr first sort of similar to i wonder if it's almost like now that now i am in the 4d chess uh realm of like this is how
Starting point is 00:44:53 you would defang the p-tape stuff is by like constantly teasing it on less and less legitimate venues and then it becomes an alien autopsy oh man you mean like maybe tom arnold is working for the other side well i think he's a bozo but cohen is like this seems like something cohen and trump might try right yeah maybe i mean whatever its design its effect certainly will be to delegitimize the idea that there's anything called the P-Tape. Like what if he releases something, but it's clearly, you know, shot with an Android phone and then they can easily be like,
Starting point is 00:45:33 look, see, they were lying this whole time and then that's used against us. Do we all, I mean, what? I'm putting my tinfoil hat on. We're so far from the P-Tape making any, it at no point would have made an impact. We're seeing, we're realizing now. Would not make an impact now.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah. Well, because it would just be Trump watching women pee on a bed. I'm just saying there's no. That's like the least. There's no sex stuff that any of his voters could possibly, could have changed their mind. Yeah. They're comfortable with a concentration camp for children again.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So like, and you know, like Stormy Daniel. And the grabber by the pussy. Yeah, I'm just like. And the, they'll make a, stop fetish shaming. Yeah. Or not even, it's just like, I don't care. I don't care. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:46:16 At least it's not killery. Just boys being boys. Yeah. Yeah. They'll make an excuse for anything. But if anyone on our side does anything. The P-Tape is like truly the dumbest MacGuffin. It's just like, okay, we got the Maltese Falcon, so what?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Yes. This is almost a perfect symbol of everything wrong that the resistance is focusing on. It's like celebrity, the P-Tape. is like focusing on. It's like celebrity, the pee tape. There is supposedly footage, and I've heard this since the early days of the campaign, there's footage from The Apprentice that was unaired of Trump.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Trump apparently just sat around while the cameras were rolling and audio was rolling, just like saying awful, atrocious things, calling his son a retard, saying the N word, saying the C word, just being, like, horrible. And that supposedly exists out there, but I, again, don't think Tom Arnold is the...
Starting point is 00:47:14 That would also not upset his fan base that also uses those words. It's just like, okay, and? Yeah, ever since the... Freedom of speech. Yeah. Ever since the election, every time he did something like this,
Starting point is 00:47:27 that were like putting children in prison, not that bad, but his numbers would get stronger. And it's, yeah, that's what excites his base. Yeah. The idea that any of these is a mic drop is... We should have been disabused of that so long ago but surely now we have to realize there's just nothing who cares p-tape is real of course like here's what's going to happen they're actually going to find it and he's just going to preemptively release it because
Starting point is 00:47:55 he knows he could murder someone and it doesn't matter like he was not kidding about that with his base right he's right there is a certain entertainment factor to tom arnold at this point you probably haven't seen him in a long time is like sort of unraveling like he used to be a bullshit artist and now he's just a like bullshit person like unraveling he was on cnn over the weekend and they were asking him if Cohn had described whether he was working with authorities. And like for whatever reason, that question like caused him to shut down like an off-brand Westworld robot. He just stopped talking and there was just like dead air for like 20 seconds. And then she was like, are you not going to answer my question?
Starting point is 00:48:46 Like it wasn't clear why that question was a problem. Does not compute. Yeah. He just broke down and stopped talking. And then she was like, well, maybe once your show is up, you could like come back and tell us what Michael Cohen told you. And he was like, no, I won't do that. It was just this weird like he changed from Tom Arnold to like just having an existential crisis.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It was like somebody just quantum leaped into his body. It was like, oh fuck, I'm Tom Arnold. Yeah, there's also one of the stories he's telling people to drum up publicity for the show is that Hillary Clinton called him days before the election and told him that the weight of the free world was on his shoulders. That woman does not have his telephone number.
Starting point is 00:49:32 No, no. That's incredible. Doesn't sound like a thing that actually happened, Tom. But, you know, who knows? Tune in to see what he comes up with. I look, I don't think that happened, but sort of similarly, there is this kind of gross underlying, like everyone's palling around with everyone else, and it is still a game to a lot of these people.
Starting point is 00:49:54 And it's like, uh-huh. It's weird because that is so obviously bullshit, and yet it feels to me less potentially bullshit than maybe it would have a year ago. I guess. They've probably been at the same party within the past couple of years. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:10 It's like, I don't know, maybe not exactly that, but it's not inconceivable that she was running through her Rolodex of Hollywood and said something similar to everyone in Hollywood. Yeah. Honestly. Yeah. Not Tom Arnold. I don't think that she'd be.
Starting point is 00:50:23 I mean. He also had. Didn't he have a. I mean, he has problematic slash. Not Tom Arnold. I don't think that she'd be a... I mean... He also had... Didn't he have a... I mean, he has problematic slash... I'm sure. Like, assault stuff on his record, doesn't he? During his divorce with Roseanne, she said that, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:37 she's now coming to terms with the fact that she was essentially a battered spouse. Now, it's always difficult in divorces, but that's... Someone that's running for candidate, I don't think that they would associate themselves with Tom Arnold. She already had the Broad City Girls. She doesn't need Tom Arnold.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I guess my assertion would be, I think there's more of just a lot of quiet corridors or cell phones of power, like, hey, what's upping? Then I really wanted, you know, it's- I agree with you, but I don't think Tom Arnold
Starting point is 00:51:10 is considered powerful. And again, this is Tom Arnold. I hear you. No, I know. But again, it's like- Andrew, I have a PowerPoint. I need to get this across to you. I'm just saying she's calling everyone.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Yeah, and maybe she did hear a rumor that he had these apprentice tapes and was like, you know, Why him? There's so many other people that would have it. Not him. Right. He hasn't even been relevant in Hollywood. He hasn't even been.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You know what I mean? Because he's crazy enough to tell that lie, maybe. Yeah. There is a story from when Tom and Roseanne were together. So I'm just going to read the story. Julie Louise Dreyfuss, when she was playing Elaine on Seinfeld. America's sweetheart. Just one of the great humans, one of the great American treasures.
Starting point is 00:51:53 Inevitably parked in a spot designated for Roseanne Barr's then husband, Tom Arnold, who at the time was making a show called The Jackie Thomas Show, which also filmed at the CBS Studio Center. Louise Dreyfuss later said that she was instructed to park there by the parking attendant. Arnold left a note on her car. How stupid are you? Move your fucking car, you asshole.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Jason Alexander, Larry David, and Julie Louise Dreyfuss confronted Arnold about the note, after which followed a Polaroid of someone's ass left on her windshield and the word cunt written in soap on her windshield. Yeah, he's a lunatic. He's not all there. They both are not good people.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yes, turns out. Welcome to the resistance. Yeah, welcome to the resistance, Tom. All right, guys, we're gonna take another quick break so Andrew can just lay down on the floor for a little bit. I have this PowerPoint, Andrew. I'm gonna put my face through the soundproof window. And then we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:53:41 We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of my Cultura podcast network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think.
Starting point is 00:54:17 We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other.
Starting point is 00:54:45 All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The Challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all, and we are coming along for the ride. Woohoo! That would be me, Devon Simone.
Starting point is 00:55:12 And then there's me, Davon Rogers. And we're here to take you behind the scenes of... Drumroll, please. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras. Yes. Each week, cast members will be joining us to spill all of the tea on the relentless challenges, heartbreaking eliminations, and of course, all the juicy drama.
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Starting point is 00:55:56 On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like David Duchovny. You know, New Yorkers have a reputation of being very tough, but it's not. It's not that way at all. They're very accepting. Jeff Goldblum. Are you saying secret fries? Secret fries. That's what you're saying? Yeah. And Kristen Wiig. I just became so aware that I'm such a loud chewer. My husband's just like, sometimes I'll be eating and he'll just be looking at me. I'm like, I'm just eating.
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Starting point is 00:57:04 Bafo B-O-4. That's one of those just horribly, offensively lame phrases that the more I say it, the more I like saying it. I think it was Hollywood Reporter in one of their tweets also said one of these movies slurped up. Yeah. Nine figures or something like that. Why? Oh, so gross. Dinosaurs don't slurp, do they?
Starting point is 00:57:25 Oh, gross. Ant-Man and the Wasp crawling to number one. They always do that. They always try to be clever. It would make sense if it was a blockbuster movie about soup. But dinosaurs, do they? They slurp a little. Or genetically engineered dinosaurs with lips.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Right. Dinosaur lips. I haven't seen the movie. Is that the turn? They all engineered dinosaurs with lips. Right. Dinosaur lips. I haven't seen the movie. Is that the turn? They got lips. They all got big old lips. I don't know why Seinfeld was in my Jurassic Park. Because Newman, he's there to fight Newman.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Oh, yeah, exactly. We gave him lips. So this is the first time since 2007 that two separate movies debuted with over $100 million in consecutive weekends. Jurassic Park 5 and Incredibles 2 did it over the past two weekends. And the last time was, I think, a sequel
Starting point is 00:58:15 to Pirates of the Caribbean and Shrek 3. So, they're following in some big footsteps there. Cinematic classics. Although kind of the analogous of each, honestly. Yeah, to be honest. Yeah. True.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Although Shrek 3 is more the Jurassic Park 5 of the situation. Sure, sure, sure. Jurassic Park 5 and Pirates of the Caribbean, which are both rides. Right. There you go. Hey, when Pirates of the Caribbean breaks down, the pirates don't eat the fuck. I almost had a quote from the original Jurassic Park, but I forgot it. Clever girl.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Don't eat the guests. Yeah, there you go. Clever girl. That's what I meant to say. Dani, you saw Jurassic Park 5. You said it is both bad and sad? Was that my words? I said it was a movie with dinosaurs.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And so it did the thing. People getting eaten, things blowing up. It was, oh my gosh. I saw this article and it was like, people are crying in the Jurassic Park 5 theater. And true, there is a moment that really got me. I saw it with Ify. We saw an early screening of it. And I grabbed him.
Starting point is 00:59:23 I was like, no. I was going to say, I listened to y'all's Friday episode with Brody Reed about how it was written, how, you know, they had nasty woman in there, like as a reference to Hillary Clinton slash the, yeah, it was very, yeah, it definitely had a lot of statements and political commentary on Trump and other things like that. Not saying not to have that, but it just wasn't well done. Be general, not specific if you're going to make a movie. Yeah. I will say I left like people are bad and we should die. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:55 We should all die and the dinosaurs and the animals should be able to live. And I wish that whatever in the happening, when the plants were trying to kill us, that is what should happen to us because we're bad. And then Jurassic Park 5 just really nailed that on the head of like humans are inherently bad, bad. Yeah. We don't deserve. On that plant murder thing, by the way, the ragweed in L.A. is really trying, by the way, y'all. Allergy jokes. By the way, y'all.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Allergy jokes. But I will say, the Planet of the Apes new movies have been doing a good job of both emoting CGI things. Oh, yeah, for sure. Just being like, here's the protagonist. Guess what? Caesar? Non-people, yeah. Yeah, like they made the star of that.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Yeah. A CG face. So good for them. Really great performances. Yeah. Are there crying dinosaurs in Jurassic Park 5? Oh, God. Maybe. Just a single tear. the star of that yeah CG face so good for them really great performances yeah are there crying dinosaurs in Jurassic Park 5 oh god
Starting point is 01:00:48 maybe just a single tear oh there's just one scene I know everyone that's seen it in the theaters knows what I'm talking about it was just oh
Starting point is 01:00:55 this dinosaur that what doesn't make it it's slow it doesn't make it does the bad dinosaur oh it hurts
Starting point is 01:01:02 it's like Littlefoot oh it is time for a Land Before Time live action CGI you're gonna get it Does the bad dinosaur have... It hurts. It's like Littlefoot. Oh, it is time for a Land Before Time live action CGI. You're going to get it. You're going to get it. You're going to get Great Mouse Detective. Oh, my God. You're going to get so many. Anastasia, I think, is coming back.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So you'll get everything that you want. Yeah. Anastasia is a good... We're prime for a pro-zarist. We're in a pro-zarist world now, baby. Yeah. Bring it back. Yeah, once Disney consolidates
Starting point is 01:01:33 all studios under its massive corporate overlordship. Yeah, actually, it's funny you're saying that because by the end of season two of Westworld, also a Crichton joint, I was having the exact same thought that you said you were having about like, yeah, fuck humanity. Let's move on from us. And yeah, so maybe we're all just being, you know, because I also had those thoughts after watching ER, you know?
Starting point is 01:02:01 No, that's not true. I was gonna say Black Mirror, 100%. Yeah, Black Mirror. Oh, this is just getting worse, and we should go ahead and just be extinct. I'm fine. That's a wrap on humanity. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Okay. And then you go home and watch some football, and your faith in humanity is restored. It's time for our World Cup day. All right. Ooh. That kind of stops on a hand. So, Mexico.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Mexico won again. Viva Mexico. As we knew they would. Beat South Korea, unfortunately. Two to one. That's a real LA contest. Yes, the most LA. Yeah, that's amazing. It was packed.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And then we had our adorable little abuelita praying with the rosary. Because, you know, she was the one that was, like, blessing it. Someone had videoed their abuela essentially like blessing each of the, and then I think she did three, she did the sign of the cross over the goalie like three times. And so then in this game, and that was for their last game
Starting point is 01:03:15 against Germany that they won. And then for this one, they actually videoed her like with her rosary. Saying the entire rosary for each one, just speed saying the rosary yes uh yeah well south korea got a good goal in so you know way to go south korea uh and the i mean i i watched i just had it on all weekend and it's i'm coming around on this
Starting point is 01:03:41 whole uh soccer sport the senegalJapan match was really entertaining. I'm sure Miles was enjoying that. He was also over in England for England beating Panama 6-1. And that was actually my favorite moment of the entire World Cup up to this point was watching Panama fans react to their first World Cup goal because they got the shit beat out of them. They lost 6-1, and they scored a goal, and their whole nation just exploded in joy.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And that's the difference between World Cup and how much this means to people and how much pride people to, you know, people and, you know, how much pride people have in their national team versus basically any other sporting event. There was also that thing you showed me before we started rolling, Andrew, about where it was to Panama. I believe it was like Panamanian TV. only see i saw the the description was in spanish such i i don't know exactly what's going on but it was the panamanian national anthem was playing like a shot from the cameras inside the sports studio showing the two announcers like fist pumping crying hugging each
Starting point is 01:05:01 other and just watching it um And then it's amazing. They're so emotional. And then it basically, they have to go right into VO as soon as the game starts. So they're just crying. It's not quite like they're not on camera, so they don't have to turn and be composed. But it's just like, and then the game gets going, and it's incredible. Yeah. I will just say, though, we need to milk every moment of humanity out of this because the
Starting point is 01:05:28 price we pay for getting this is we allow FIFA, one of the most corrupt organizations on Earth, to exist. So just think about that. I mean, look, Qatar, the next World Cup, straight up has slaves building stadiums right now. That's going to be a tough one to swallow. This one should be tough, too. Just saying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Those stadiums are going to be so nice, though, dude. Like, think about it. Oh, man. Well, they better be. Yeah. By then, you know, we'll have Daily Zeitgeist correspondents on the ground. You know, exposing the human rights abuses. Anything else from the World Cup
Starting point is 01:06:05 or the week ending culture? Do either of you guys watch Westworld? I didn't catch it up on the finale. I didn't watch it last night because I was too busy eating ribs with the aforementioned previous guest. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And iffy, I will say. And iffy? Yeah, it was a real thing. A real previous guest smorgasbord. Awesome. Well, Andrew, it has been a pleasure having you, as always. First of all, we like to ask our guests what their social media is, and also what is a tweet that you've been enjoying recently?
Starting point is 01:06:41 Oh, man. Well, social media is Andrew T. Last name is spelled ti and yo is this racist uh please go listen we added a new co-host her name is tawny newsome she's really great and the other thing i want to tease a little bit is i've been teasing it on this show for too long but finally about to get this literally this week we'll be recording the first episode of the podcast that caused me to read atlas shrugged. So it will come out eventually. I know I've been teasing it forever.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Yeah, it's going to actually happen now. I kind of blew the tweet on the Panamanian thing. So I don't know if I have a better one. We'll just say follow Andrew on Twitter and he'll retweet that Panamanian one. Yeah, hell yeah, for sure. And you can see what true national pride looks like, you guys. Yeah, in a good way. Yeah, it's really...
Starting point is 01:07:29 We can see true national pride all the time. That's toxic national pride. That's national pride as a way of saying fuck you to an entire type of people. Yeah. Dani, what is your social media and what is a tweet you've been enjoying lately? Oh, I'm at Ms. Dani Fernandez on all the socials.
Starting point is 01:07:51 What is a tweet that I've been enjoying lately? Dani's a great follow on all the socials. Yeah. Yeah. I don't want to do my own tweet. We're not doing that, right? I'm going to bring up somebody else's tweet. I mean, you can.
Starting point is 01:08:01 You would be the first to do that. Gross. I'm going to bring up somebody else's tweet. I mean, you can. You would be the first to do that. Gross. One from my friend, my friend, my friend. One from my friend, Sam Grittner, who's at Sam Grittner. And he said, Netflix, next episode will start in five seconds.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Me, not fast enough. You're killing me here. So true. I can't handle it. I'm like, what? No. Skip intro. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Go to the next one. Gosh. We are walking Black Mirror episodes. Seriously. We really are. I was watching Westworld on my iPad and it went to black and I did literally have a Black Mirror moment of just staring at myself like, what am I doing? It was real bad. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:44 You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. My tweet. Matt Chrisman at Kush Bomb wrote, Love to produce a small glass bottle from my sleeve and sprinkle an undetectable poison into my lord's goblet while he is distracted by a jester's cape ring. I like that. And I like Derek's at E. Dirk E. E. D. R. K.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Son, Dad, how did you and Mom become mutuals? Father, well, believe it or not, I DM'd her. She liked my tweet about white people be loving to call 911. Son, Dad, you were a rando? Father laughing heartily. That's right, son.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I just like that exchange because I had that exact exchange with my son over the weekend. The future is so dark. We're fucked. And that's going to do it for today's episode of the Daily Zeitgeist. But you can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website where you can find our footnotes. Footnotes.
Starting point is 01:09:49 There we go. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. And we're going to keep it going with recommendations from super producer Anna Hosnier. Hey, everybody. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Hey. Okay. So for having me. Hey. Okay. So today I'm going to recommend this song. It's called Borders by this group, Saint Beauty, which it's these two girls, excuse me, women, that are based out of Atlanta, Georgia. They're part of the Wonderland Art Society, which is this, like, artistic collective
Starting point is 01:10:22 that has people like Janelle Monae in it. And they put out beautiful music, and it makes me cry, and it makes me emotional. So I want you guys to listen to it. It's Saint Beauty, and the song is called Borders. Oh, my God. There are tears streaming down her face. I love everybody here. This song must be so good.
Starting point is 01:10:40 That's going to do it for today's episode. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then. Bye. Tell me, would you go when you said goodbye? I never thought I'd lose you. Didn't think you would make a sacrifice.
Starting point is 01:11:00 There was never any room to head for the road and live your life And I'll read all the signs Tell me where to go when the love has died Midnight, sunrise Now I'm sitting at a red light Anywhere but here now I'm speeding Memories I know will remain unknown Inch higher, night brighter Don't lose sight, top fighter Thank you. And I'm singing you this song on the west side Halfway to Mexico
Starting point is 01:12:06 Halfway to Tokyo On the west side Underneath the trees Sitting here waiting for the mail on the weekend Leaning with the breeze I'm sitting here alone and I'm thinking I'm not sorry I won't apologize for my freedom
Starting point is 01:12:30 Midnight, sunrise, now I'm sitting at a red light Anywhere but here now I'm speeding home Memories I know will remain unknown Hitchhiker, night rider Don't lose sight, top rider On this open road Halfway to Mexico Halfway to Tokyo
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