The Daily Zeitgeist - Cybertruck Bulletproof But Not Waterproof, The Russian Space Nuke Panic 02.16.24

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

In episode 1626, Jack and guest co-host Blake Wexler are joined by writer, producer, columnist, and author of the memoir Why Didn't You Tell Me?, Carmen Rita Wong, to discuss… Russia Space Nuke Melt...down Hits Washington, Applying For Jobs Is Now Even Worse Thanks To “A.I.”, Cybertrucks Are Already Rusting and more! Russia Space Nuke Meltdown Hits Washington Applying For Jobs Is Now Even Worse Thanks To "A.I." AI Chatbots Are The New Job Interviewers A face-scanning algorithm increasingly decides whether you deserve the job A Milton resident’s lawsuit against CVS raises questions about the use of AI lie detectors in hiring Cybertrucks Are Already Rusting? Are Brand-New Tesla Cybertrucks Rusting in the Rain? LISTEN: Watching You by Charlotte Dos SantosSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:56 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
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Starting point is 00:01:51 Not a good start, guys. I'm fucking up the date. That's when you know you're in for it. When I can't even read numbers. The most basic thing to read. I think I learned that before reading numbers, before reading words. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Da-na-na-na-na, Inspector Gadget.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Da-na-na-na-na, na-na, woo-hoo. Da-na-na-na-na, Inspector Gadget. Da-na-na-na-na, go. Sorry, Joe Jadget, Joe. That is courtesy of Rezik on the Discord in reference to the fact that I pronounced Inspector Gadget with two soft Gs and then tried to pretend that I'd done it on purpose on yesterday's show and just, like, believed that more words should be pronounced with a soft g i'm not proud it just seemed like a jude idea at the time i am thrilled to be joined in the second seat by today's
Starting point is 00:02:57 jest co-host a brilliant no i'm not gonna keep doing it. A brilliant comedian, writer, actor, the hilarious, the chaotic, the riding a recumbent bike in short shorts. It's Blake Wexler. Hey, everyone. This is Blake Wexler, aka happy girth day to my legs. Happy girth day to my legs. Happy girth day, dear plumpers. Happy girth day to my legs. Happy girth day, dear plumpers. Happy girth day to my legs. Today is my birthday,
Starting point is 00:03:28 and I have a very exciting announcement. Is that real? My calf. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I would never joke about that. I would never. I joke about a lot of things. I would never ever joke about the day. Very serious about my birthday. Very serious. Equally as serious announcement. My calf muscles have gotten so big and strong. are no longer considered to be calves but cows i now have cow muscles that sucks it's good no it's really no that is actually very good it's very good this is i mean humor i just thought you were commenting on the fact that every day is leg day for you. And, you know, happy birthday to your plumpers is every day. But happy, happy birthday to your plumpers and happy birthday to you, Blake Wexler. What a treat.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Thank you. I know I came up with this bit, but it still is. It's starting to make me feel sick to my stomach hearing these words. Carmen, I'm so sorry. And by the way, we don't even know who our guest is yet. If you're going to say girth one more time, I still... But he has girth and clumpers.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I would never. Is that weird? Is that not a good combination? Yeah, happy girth day to... Yeah, weird word. That has been paired with clumpers and also very weird words. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Both like and I use to describe our legs. I'm not going to add to that. I could add another word. I'm not adding. I'm not adding. You don't have to. Who are you, though? Who am I?
Starting point is 00:04:53 Who are you? We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant writer, producer, vice columnist, journalist, podcast host, just all of the jobs. She's had them. She's been of the jobs. She's had them. She's been good at them. She's done them amazingly. Her memoir, Why Don't You Tell Me, was called Propulsive and Explosive by Publishers Weekly.
Starting point is 00:05:14 And she was called a master storyteller by a regional paper, The New York Times. I don't know if you've ever heard of them. Please welcome to the show, the brilliant, the talented, Carmen Rita! Listen, does Carmen Sandiego have a song? I don't remember. You did Inspector Gadget, and I was like, Carmen Sandiego is like, where in the world is Carmen Sandiego?
Starting point is 00:05:38 The place my brain is at is that I couldn't even change the second word to San Diego. I said, da-da-da-da-da, Carmen Inspector. So, San Diego. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jesus Christ, guys. What is going on? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:55 How's everybody doing? Good. Yeah? Right? Is it really your birthday, Blake? I still don't know. Blake, yeah, happy birthday, man. Aw, thank you. Thank you so much. Blake, happy birthday, man. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Thank you so much. Yeah, it is Friday, February 16th, which is today. It's my birthday. Yeah, so I feel good. I feel young again, in a way. I've done a 180. The earlier part of my 30s has been a slog. But now, you know, I've had some serums and experimental medication and metal surgery, not even plastic surgery.
Starting point is 00:06:31 And I feel pretty good. Yeah. You've had all these surgeries. Carmen, where are you at? I'm at home in a closet. There's construction in my building all of a sudden. So I'm like, like yeah in the class no no no listen i've had i just had surgery like three months ago so there you go speaking of
Starting point is 00:06:52 surgeries but they're taking things out not putting things in so it's all good it is good yeah i want to get fewer things as we get older fewer things as you get older yes things start to now disappearing for good reasons a minimalist body is i think what we all want yes with youthful blood transferring you know the blood of the youth into yourselves as certain billionaires do i'm glad someone said it where can we just stop acting like having young people as blood bags is only for billionaires? I mean, it's a fun, earthy alternative to your morning coffee, is what I'll say. You know, just get your blood. No, don't do it.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Don't do it. All right. Nope. I was just. Vampires. Listen, I'll just be a vampire. It was a trial balloon. It didn't go over well.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So we're just going to kind of. I'm sorry to hear that. Put that back and I'll bring it out in a couple more years. See how people respond to it. Well. Oh, my God. Carmen, we're going to get to know you. Well, well, well.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Look who it is. Yes. We're going to get to know you. Well, well, well. Look who it is. Yes. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. You may have seen headlines that Russia space nuke something. Like that Russia is going to nuke us from space was kind of the vibes I was getting from the headlines. Russian nuclear space weapons and yeah washington you should read the rest of the article before you add it into the show rundown that's all that you know you may have seen russian nuclear the words aren't even
Starting point is 00:08:37 in order in my head but that's my impressionistic version of what it was like for me to see those words together is like, well, that's bad, right? Like that combination of words is bad. The truth of the story, a little less scary. So we're just going to talk about that. Turn the temperature down a little bit on the Russian nuclear space laser bombs thing uh we're gonna talk about perfect what it's like to apply for a job at mcdonald's these days hint it involves an ai blue space creature that you have to like answer existential questions about it's very confusing positive story yeah it sounds like
Starting point is 00:09:26 that's going to be uplifting in a lot of ways yeah and then we're going to talk about tesla troubles because yeah we i mean we are an elon musk fan podcast we we love him and we feel like he can do no wrong but god God damn. Guy keeps fucking up. Tesla is having a worse quarter. You are not fans. No, we're not. Stop. He's so smart and rich.
Starting point is 00:09:56 What's that like? God, stop. You guys are way too smart. You're smarter than him. Why don't you have $50 billion, bro? Thank you. Tesla, I didn't realize this. I don't you have 50 billion dollars bro but he uh tesla i didn't realize this i don't normally pay attention to the markets because i think it's like all bullshit but it is just
Starting point is 00:10:11 interesting like the thing that he's famous for is like making a lot of money for tesla like with tesla stock he uh tesla is having a worse quarter a worse year so far than Boeing. Twitter. Boeing. Yeah. No, literally than Boeing. Tesla is performing the worst out of any S&P 500 stock. Boeing has, like, just to put that in perspective,
Starting point is 00:10:38 Boeing had a window explode off of a plane they built. A door. A door explode off of a plane they built a door explode off of a plane they built and we're like yeah that's that's our bad that one's on us guys uh and we kind of knew it was a problem but you know you sorry and uh tesla's doing worse than the Cybertrucks can't fly is the problem. That's why he promised the Cybertrucks could fly and they can't. So that's going to hurt your stock. That is the tenor of the conversation of the Cybertruck heading in is like, you literally can't be shot in this thing.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Nothing can happen to it. And then the people who ordered their Cybertru cyber trucks the same people who are anxiously awaiting the latest email from donald trump i have to assume go like got the owner's manual and the owner's manual was like you if a bird shits on this car sell it or take it or get like alcohol like industrial strength alcohol wipes and clean that shit off immediately because it's it's bad for for your cyber truck if like just a if if it gets like dirt on it yeah it's made of aluminum foil yeah it's amazing it's made of stainless steel and they were like oh the stainless thing died away it turns out that doesn't mean it can't be stained
Starting point is 00:12:03 and in fact it's like it is just drinking in everything that you put on it like a sponge. So we'll talk about all that plenty more. But before we get to any of that, Carmen, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, God, we're gonna start with that one. All right, so we can get out of the serious stuff. So on my search history, you're catching me right after lunch. And once a week, it's my little routine because I need a little treat. Once a week with my lunch, I watch all the new movie previews. So my search was Godzilla and Kong. Is that? Godzilla and Kong. Is that? For Godzilla and Kong.
Starting point is 00:12:46 You can laugh at me. Listen, Godzilla is my girl. All right? Let's be real. I can be a very, very serious person and intellect. However, when it comes to giant reptiles, who may be female, trying to protect their territory,
Starting point is 00:13:03 and they can shoot blue lasers out of their mouths. I am on board so hard. So the thing, my, my pause was not just being staggered at your low brow taste. I wasn't like, it was not me picking up the monocle that had fallen from my eye.
Starting point is 00:13:22 When you said, God, God, did you you said Godzilla and Kong. Seriously? Oh, God! Do you? Did you ever say Godzilla and Kong? I thought they made this one already. They did, but it's the trailer. It's the new trailer, Zach.
Starting point is 00:13:37 It's the trailer for the new sequel. So they got a sequel. For then Godzilla and Kong are teaming up. So the first one was Godzilla versus Conj. They got a sequel. Godzilla and Kong are teaming up. So the first one was Godzilla, Jodzilla versus Kong. This is Godzilla X Kong, which means multiple. The sequel is there's an X. It's a collab.
Starting point is 00:13:56 It's a collabo. Yes, man. Yes. Man, so I was not up on this. And Kong has a metal glove. Why? This is so ridiculous. For taking gonna end up seeing this in like 4d right right i'm gonna go to the theater where the seats move and it sprays water on you and i'm just gonna laugh my ass off it's gonna be wonderful did you watch the first the
Starting point is 00:14:20 v godzilla v kong yes and did you you see Godzilla minus one which was a masterpiece I mean these math equations too much for me masterpiece I didn't know there was gonna be fucking math here oh yeah sorry I cut you off you had a better no no no it's okay no I didn't it's so hard for me to watch these when I'm
Starting point is 00:14:40 you know reading about Alexander Fleming and you know like the guy who discovered penicillin it's just that's the type of stuff that I like but I have heard that I see I have you seen um the apple plus show monarch legacy of monsters I watched a couple episodes yeah I liked it I like really liked it and of I, the two Kurt Russell's were it's, it's Kurt Russell and his son. Yeah. Quiet Russell,
Starting point is 00:15:09 I believe both play the same person, but different ages, obviously super similar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It works. They have the,
Starting point is 00:15:17 uh, the Russell draw a jaw line and yeah, I thought it was cool. I liked it. It wasn't perfect, but I was, I was into it. I ended up good. I watched a couple episodes. It was, it was okay. It was okay. Cool. But yeah, I thought it was cool. I liked it. It wasn't perfect, but I was, I was into it. It was good.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I watched a couple episodes. It was, it was okay. It was okay. But yeah, when it comes to the movies, I'm old school. This was my old, you know, when I was like, when I was a kid. Yeah. Yeah. You fought with big monster movies, like big.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah. What is your top? What's your number one? Like that. So my original introduction to movies and it remained you know my favorite movie was jaws which is a big monster movie but like i didn't take it in that direction i then instead just like got excited about steven spielberg movies and like didn't like i because i saw i think the thing that i followed up with was like a like 70s king kong and it just like
Starting point is 00:16:04 as a kid like wasn't really doing it for me and so my first girl crush by the way jessica lang yeah she's my lord yeah lordy i was like i'm confused yeah what's your number one big monster movie um listen my first which by the way i watch all kinds of like i'm a movie freak so i'll watch anything and quite obsessive um but alien was everything yeah for me that movie i will watch over and over and over and over again like the whole concept of all of it alien predator big monster movie like i just i love them they're cool they're a blast terminator is he a monster i think so he is the man is arnold schwarzenegger is he's the monster
Starting point is 00:16:52 no you've seen that video of him traveling to uh brazil for a carnival but he's no it's wild it's like he was the host of a travel show in the 70s and he is out of control he talks about his asses and things like that no things of this nature picks up a dancer one time and it's like uh you're worried that somebody's going to be ripped to shreds yeah so alien yep aliens twister twisters thoughts you excited i mean i think it's too many i could barely handle one and now there's multiple now there's multiple twisters do you did you ever go to the universal uh the the universal studios in in la where sorry studio studio um where they would have the king kong the massive king kong but they would give him banana breath like they would have a scent of bananas and i just looked it up it turns out this is i i'm not this isn't the beginning
Starting point is 00:18:00 of my brain decaying i would vomit that's it would vomit. That's disgusting. It was disgusting. You would be like a kid and scared. So I would instantly throw up. Wait, does this imply that the cinematic universe of King Kong's contains massive bananas to go with the mass of King Kong? Otherwise, he would just have to be eating bushels. Right? True. Which is not sustainable.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Not sustainable. Ridiculous. Not sustainable. King Which is not sustainable. Not sustainable. King Kong does not need food. No. I'm a monster. His food is excitement. I don't know. I have no idea. I don't like to think about my monsters eating and pooping. It just really destroys the image in my head.
Starting point is 00:18:40 His food, like a late night talk show host's food is our adulation and applause king kong's food is yes our fear and terror yes yes yes yeah what is something you think is overrated you know what okay let's bring it back down to i think you said something you said that you know the markets are bullshit right jack you just said that all right so let's bring ourselves back there for a second because i've been thinking a lot about this because some sports star just
Starting point is 00:19:10 started some non-profit about financial literacy i covered financial literacy for 20 plus years i gave financial advice i was an editor at money fortune i had a tv show all this stuff and i can tell you i retired from it i want want to say seven, eight years ago. And I'm so glad I did. Because one of the things is the realization that you cannot financially literate yourself out of a real effed up economy that doesn't pay you. Right. You can't the system what I found out in covering the business for so long, covering the banks, covering how everything is made the government, the laws, the rules, you are up against, of course, you need to know the basics, especially women and marginalized
Starting point is 00:19:56 people, you have to know the basics and how to protect yourself and how to be on time. But the idea that so many of these things are set in motion or beyond your control, like credit scores or like, you know, overdrafts or like the market where by the way, most of the market is only 15% of American people have access to the stock market. Yeah. Right. So how can you, now, when I started back in financial literacy, it was, So how can you now when I started back in financial literacy, it was it was a different ballgame. And now it's like you can't sit there and teach people out of the fact that, for example, my first apartment, let's see, my first job, I was making thirty five thousand dollars a year. New York City, Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Yeah. I could afford a studio apartment walking distance from my job. Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah. It was $750. $750. Yeah. And thank you, by the way, for having the geriatric on your show now. It's so age is good. I'm alive. I'm alive. Age is good. But let me give you a perspective. Now I've got young people telling me that they're starting at $35,000 a year and a studio apartment in Midtown is going for $3,000 plus. Stop. The same amount.
Starting point is 00:21:12 How can you possibly be literate enough to get yourself out of the fact that we're just not paying people what we should be paid? Just got to learn more. Yeah. One thing i recently learned bootstraps mostly no bootstraps they're gonna get you out of this ain't no boots you can put on your feet get you out of this yes you can all sit there and grind but the fact of the matter is that the system is set up so badly against us that i i just hope it's so overrated. When you see financial literacy, when you see experts now, back when I started, there were very few experts because you actually had to be an
Starting point is 00:21:50 expert. Yeah. Okay. Now it's about selling things. It's about selling information. It's about selling you a program. It's about all of this. Just be very, very careful. Yeah. And then we've got to make some changes, period. I mean, there's definitely like a real-time, almost food chain-like proliferation of scams that are aiming at you. And that's definitely good to familiarize yourself with. But yeah, when I learned that financial literacy was like a pet project of big banks yeah i was like oh wait a second here yeah like they're because it helps their narrative that like no the problem the reason there's inequality has it's not systemic it's not this system that is like just funneling massive amounts of money our way it's actually uh you guys are too dumb and we're right we're willing to help you with that if you just like pay us for
Starting point is 00:22:53 these financial literacy programs yeah it's the whole like you're all so bad because you use straws but we are just gonna suck all the oil out of you know what i mean it's that whole it's all personal responsibility bs because they want to distract you from the out of it. You know what I mean? It's all personal responsibility BS because they want to distract you from the fact that it's all happening upstairs. Yeah. It's really indicative and fucked up of how bad the system is that like beyond to your point, basic understanding, you're supposed to be like, you know what, actually, you probably should be ignorant to what's going on because it's going to make you way more upset if you actually know how fucked up the system is and how it's that is not what the banks consider financial literacy is like knowing what what they're doing
Starting point is 00:23:30 to fuck you over their their version of financial literacy is like they read to all these financial products that we can offer you to which is why we need elizabeth warren to stay where she is and do more because because of her that that things have changed and are continuing to change and we and we got to change it so you don't change the rules they're just going to do whatever they can right whatever they can like it seems like it's similar i don't know if it's exactly the same mechanism but the reason that taxes are so complicated in the u.s like doing your own taxes is not like, I feel like if you talk to people in other countries about financial literacy,
Starting point is 00:24:10 they'll be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Like, I just like, I know how much money I have and I try not to like spend more than that. And like that, but it's so complicated because it's profitable for corporations to make it complicated. It's profitable.
Starting point is 00:24:26 The government knows how much you owe in taxes. All right? Yeah. They can fucking send you a bill. You don't need a company to pay a company. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:24:35 that's another one of the fights that's happening on Washington now to kind of outlaw the whole tax prep stuff and have people be like, why is everybody paying for this stuff? Yeah. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It does seem like people are kind of catching on to that one. Yes. Carmen, what is something you think is underrated? Oh, this is more fun. Do you know what I love? Love, love, love. Let's go back to G. Capital punishment. No, I'm kidding. Absolutely not! Pendejo, mira.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Don't get me mad now. Lo siento. Lo siento. Oh, I didn't know you spoke Spanish, Blake. Don't get me mad now. Lo siento. Lo siento. Lo siento. I'll spare you. Oh, wow. Oh, I didn't know you spoke Spanish, Blake. No. Lo siento.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Lo siento. Un poquito. No, this is mucho más fun. Okay. So on shows, I love, because of course I'm a writer too, but I love mashup words. I don't like, I'm not talking about those TikTok kind of stuff like Riz and stuff I'm talking about mashup words because right now the word
Starting point is 00:25:30 that I can't get out of my head which I love so much is corpseical is anyone watching True Detective it is the idea and I've come across a couple more of these words and I just love they make me so happy and they're just corpsical
Starting point is 00:25:46 like the power to be able to create a word that instantly makes your brain go corpse know exactly what that is and you know exactly what it is and it's a nonsense word brilliant by the way i love the show yeah you love true detective that's that's a great underrated that's that's one of honestly my favorite underrated it's that's such a good one because it's something that you appreciate subconsciously but then hearing you say that i want to i want to keep an eye out for more more corpsicle type words it's so fun and then every time i hear corpsicle i'm like oh i just love it by the way so so that you know where i'm at i tried to write corpse cycle i wasn't quite sure how to pronounce uh how to spell it and my autocorrect changed it to crop circle sure so you know what's another fantastical thing you love science so there you go i love science is that what
Starting point is 00:26:39 you said yes i love science science Science. Science. The M. Night Shyamalan movie. Oh, science. Science. Science. And science class. I think that's in another M. Night Shyamalan movie where Mark Wahlberg is a science teacher. And he's like, just written on the board is like, where'd the bees go? Oh, God. That wasn't science. Which one was that one that was that is uh oh my god what about the bees though bro don't spoil it don't spoil it don't tell us
Starting point is 00:27:14 where the bees are it's a huge plot point oh my god it's a good one yeah that is a good one true detective season four or yeah season four has one of the most that corpsicle is the corpsicle to end all corpsicles by the way it's a bunch yeah it's a real cluster and if you like this season look at me i'm not doing promo for her but i do adore her the director isa lopez right she got it from mexico she has um her horror movie tigers are not afraid was beautiful and fresh you know when you see a movie it's not like you're not like wow that was so great and epic but when you see it and you go okay that's new yeah like how hard is it to see to watch something today and be like okay that's that's new. I haven't seen that. That's her. And it is brilliant. So I'm not
Starting point is 00:28:07 surprised that she produced a corpsicle. Because if you watch that movie, you can see how you're like, this lady's brain is different. Yeah. Me likey. Oh, that only has a 97% on Rotten Tomatoes. That's all it has. Which one? Tiger's Not Afraid?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Oh, I'm so happy for her! Writing it down on my movies to watch list. Me too. So good. So good. By the way, Issa, love you. Love you. Okay, moving on. She's a big fan, as are all great,
Starting point is 00:28:40 brilliant directors who think different. They are huge fans of the David Zykaist. It fits. Let's take a quick break and come back and we'll brilliant you know directors who think different they are huge fans of the david zykaist and it fits it fits all right let's take a quick break and come back and we'll run through some new stories we'll be right back okay i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tikt. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold
Starting point is 00:29:38 and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and
Starting point is 00:30:05 iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person
Starting point is 00:30:32 who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
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Starting point is 00:31:11 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros,
Starting point is 00:31:24 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Starting point is 00:31:46 This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Diet Coke. And we're back. And I do like to every once in a while check in with my good friends at the Drudge Report
Starting point is 00:32:15 every once in a while. The Drudge Report is like, gets more traffic than the New York Times and it is only one page. It has like as many page views as the Nework times and it is only one page it has like as many page views as the new york times and it's just a bunch of links that this strange man puts up on his weird conservative website and yesterday it was all about russia space nukes and how, you know, just in like big font red lettering, that's usually when he's like, this is the one that everybody should be paying attention to. So I have to assume that this
Starting point is 00:32:54 anxiety, the anxiety over Russian space nuclear weapons has entered the american bloodstream so i just wanted to kind of take a quick look at how this came about it started with a person in the u.s house intelligence committee who mike turner some name that is just like two very common names sandwiched together very plain but he's he's someone who like when i mentioned him to people who i don't think are even that politically active they're like oh yeah mike turner so i i just might not be totally up on this person but he got briefed on something and was immediately like oh my god like you need to like let us know what is happening here you need to let it like declassify this whole thing and like dropped hints that it was involved russia and nuclear weapons and space and that's a scary combination i can see how that is a scary combination jackpot so the reality of the situation is that i will just read directly from the article that people were
Starting point is 00:34:08 able to put together using actual sourcing, U.S. intelligence shows that Russia is discussing the possibility of basing a nuclear weapon in space. So they're discussing the possibility. But we did not discover that Russia has a nuclear missile in orbit pointing at our head. We are reporting on a conversation that we think might be happening in Russia right now. And why would they have a nuclear weapon in space? Because it could be used to threaten our satellite communication. So another detail that made me less stressed out about this. Like thinking about basing a weapon in space that could fuck with my Wi-Fi and cellular signal. Now I'm freaked out.
Starting point is 00:35:03 No, now I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I think that's absolutely horrifying yeah yeah that is a nightmare scenario that is truly nightmare truly it also feels like not the the way you would attack someone's communication is to just blow all of the satellites out of the sky with a nuclear weapon. That's where you're wrong. That's where you're wrong. It's not going to blow. They're actually going to just have it ram.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Into the satellites and break them. So no explosives. It's going to orbit around bumping into satellites. I believe is what Mike Turner. Or whoever this third baseman is. I was going to say Blake were you in the room? What the hell? I'm in a lot of circles.
Starting point is 00:35:43 You know a lot of details. It's a bumper car. A nuclear power bumper car. It's a bumper nuke. Yeah, it's a bumper nuke. It's terrifying. I mean, it's a conversation, but with the idea of knocking out satellite is terrifying.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah, because everything runs on it now. Yeah, for sure planes yeah trains automobiles yeah I just saw
Starting point is 00:36:18 all the water come out of Jack's body when he had to say automobiles you're all skin and teeth we had to say automobiles. You're all skin and teeth. We had to say it. Yeah, I'm sorry. I put you in that position. I thought this was already happening. I just figured
Starting point is 00:36:33 there already were nukes in space. That we had them, that they had them. Yeah, I feel like there's going to be lots of satellite-based warfare happening in the near future. It just feels less scary than the idea that the headline was communicating to me that a nuclear weapon was going to be shot from space at us and we wouldn't have any warning and everything go boom. are pointing out like so everyone was like so why did he just like leak the scariest possible version of this story that we've known about for many years that has been like an ongoing
Starting point is 00:37:13 you know piece of information that the intelligence committees were aware of and people think it's possible reasons have to do with uh trying to make people more scared of Russia to get the Ukraine-Israel funding bill through the House where it is currently stalled out. There's also a bill coming up that affects the government's ability to spy on us. And so if they can get people scared enough, they feel like maybe, you know, they need a good scare around every time that thing is getting ratified or re-ratified. Feels very smokebomb-y. Yes. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's just very much like just throwing out smoke.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Don't look over here. Look over there. Yeah. The fire's over there. No, wait, the fire's over there. Yeah. My ex-husband's used to do that. Right. With literal smoke you've mainly been married to i would be like i'd be like there's a smoke bomb you're like look over there and i'm like i'm still right here i'm not not moving my gaze man my gaze stays right here where it should be but is that that's the tactic. And it's just really stupidly tried and true type of typical tactic.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah. Even Representative Andy Ogles, which that can't be a real name, but we'll go with it, on Thursday accused Turner of having ulterior motives, citing the battle over both funding for Ukraine and a bill to reauthorize the nation's warrantless spy powers each of which has raised some opposition uh by the way andy ogles is a republican from tennessee so he's like in this guy's party and he's like guys this is for real this is dumb and they said yes for real this is dumb and but you gotta assume that there's always some truth in these things. Yeah. I mean, the intelligence.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It's still smoke. Like there's still something happening. It definitely it created a new action movie in my mind. Oh, boy. Where we're like blowing each other's satellites out of the sky. And it's like satellite wars. other satellites out of the sky and it's like satellite wars and it is tyrese and ludicrous in a car that has been charlie's to be yes like something similar happens in one of the fast and furious movies but they instead of blowing a satellite up with a nuke. They drive into space in a car. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:46 And yes, it is still a car. It's important to note. It's not a plane. It's not a satellite. It is a car. So it still fits in vital. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:53 That is vital. It's vital. There's a, there's a show on, by the way, I love that. Like you have me as a co-host and all my expertise is from someone who just got an Apple plus subscription,
Starting point is 00:40:03 but Apple plus a co-host and all my expertise is from someone who just got an apple plus subscription but on apple plus congratulations season two where it's called for all mankind and the premise is if the soviets won the space race yeah and we've had it recommended on the show before yeah yeah i really really like it and it's kind of a vehicle to... There are some, like, corny parts where, like, Ted Kennedy becomes president because Chappaquiddick doesn't happen because of, like, a scheduling issue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:33 But it is a similar premise. I think, like, later in the show, there might be a nuke in space situation or whatever, but it is a good show. It sounds like a total bullshit, boring premise. Like, okay,
Starting point is 00:40:48 but it's good. Did you leave the world behind? Yeah. No, but we talked about it. I'm sorry. I actually had to look up the name. Cause I just know it as the,
Starting point is 00:40:59 the Amahashara Ali, that beautiful man and the Obama movie. And I was, that's exactly the premise. The satellites are out and it throws the world into complete chaos and planes fall out of the sky. And it's, it's horrifying.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Yeah. What plane is that? What would happen if the satellites went out? They would just be like, well, there goes that. And planes, guys,
Starting point is 00:41:22 we were really dependent on the satellite up here and the flight deck, so we're just going to take her down rapidly. We don't know how to fly this thing. We're just here for decor to make y'all feel better. Yeah, I don't know. The satellites are magnets that keep the planes
Starting point is 00:41:40 up in the air. Right. That movie seemed like it was very full of shit to me, but maybe I'm not scared of it. But it's still scary. Still scary. Don't belittle the fears. Alright, so speaking of the difference between
Starting point is 00:41:55 real fears and bullshit fears, we got this new glimpse of the future with AI where America is using AI to continue to innovate new and exciting ways to make life miserable for the most vulnerable people in our country. And in this instance, that means soul-crushing hurdles for people to jump through in order to simply apply to work for McDonald's. So companies like FedEx, McDonald's, and Darden, who is the company, the restaurant group that has Olive Garden, et cetera, are all clients of Paradox.ai, a tech startup that helps them out with the hiring process and it's got it so it asks applicants
Starting point is 00:42:49 to go through a lengthy and completely baffling personality test starring a blue humanoid alien named ash and the as one applicant complained on reddit quote, man, I just want a dishwasher, Jeff. Why? Why this? Why is this a part of it? What is this shit? So as outlined in an article on 404 Media, the test consists of images featuring Ash in a variety of situations. And you have to click on one of two boxes, either me or not me.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And some of the images like make sense within the context of a job application. Like there's one in which Ash is being yelled at by a customer. Also a blue humanoid alien kind of looks like if Pixar made an avatar movie set entirely inside an olive garden. And it was like the year 1991 because the you know humanoid aliens aren't i agree like that in a second what you just said i would i would watch that yeah make it a ponderosa you're even better yeah there you go but so you have to answer it's like what does it say not much bothers me me or not me i think we know the answer to that one right
Starting point is 00:44:06 like that's yes if you've if you've had to just like ace a personality test for a job interview before yeah no that's me nothing bothers me i like actually uh people screaming in my face that's my food that's actually how i you know how king k Kong survives off of our screams. And, uh, yeah. We have no bananas. Yeah, right. No need for gigantic bananas because you just feed me your customer's derision and
Starting point is 00:44:36 that is what gets me through the day. Give me all your Karens. Yeah, third option. Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. Yes. Endless, but you have bottomless Karens. All you can eat Karens? At the Olive Garden. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yum. Other images are like kind of existential and just like kind of random feeling. like kind of existential and just like kind of random feeling like one where Ash has fallen off a bicycle that is like a sci-fi bicycle. Like one of the wheels doesn't have spokes on it. It seems like and hurt his knee accompanied by the caption. Things happen to me, me, not me.
Starting point is 00:45:22 I mean, Me? Not me? I mean, I don't know how you could possibly take an answer to that question and hold it either against someone or for them. hire someone who just shit happens to them all the time like it's a liability people can fall off bikes like when something happens to you jack it's your fault does that make sense so things don't happen to me i go through the world dominating everything i see and that is what's going to make me a good dishwasher at olive garden And you're not going to call in sick because you fell off your bike. That's correct. You don't fall off bikes. Things happen to me.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Things happen to me. It's like such a philosophical question. We know all this is bullshit, right? These personality tests, all of them. Absolutely. We will get to that. It is complete garbage. Yeah, but it's just like I'm just trying to put myself in the position of like the poor fucking people and also like you're going to a website that says
Starting point is 00:46:31 like dot ai so you're like oh this is like some next level like computer mind shit where i'm it's like judging me and telling me like i'm worthy or not worthy and like somehow there's a blue humanoid alien involved it's just it's like this extra little mind fuck to make the thing seem impressive i guess dot ai means smart yeah like that's that's what it's like oh so i'm actually done it makes you feel even more inadequate, probably, because there's also, you know, speaking like financial literacy, also Internet literacy. And these questions where these poor applicants are going to get just so in their head. And not only is it going to be a nightmare experience to get the end goal of getting a job, they also are going to not feel as good about themselves. And it's going to cause more stress in an already stressful situation.
Starting point is 00:47:26 This is a bummer. That's what they're trying to do. Big Brother's always watching you. That's what they're trying to make you feel like. It's all a psy-op. You just made Big Brother sound cool, though. You called him Big Brother. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It's a psy-op, man. Yeah. Big Brother. Hey, Brother. Hey, Big brother. Hey, brother. The images are probably AI generated, and that's basically all that is AI about this, because the test seems to be just a good old-fashioned personality test relying on the ocean model, which was created back in the 80s. And the big five categories they say matter, like it's called ocean is openness conscientiousness
Starting point is 00:48:07 extroversion agreeableness and neuroticism uh you don't want to score big on the neuroticism scale i'll tell you yes you do if it's a detail oriented job oh you do oh shit yes yeah i've just that no wonder i have i need one of those No wonder I was the worst waiter of all time. I was actually a pretty good dishwasher, though. And a pretty good butler. But could not... Yeah, fucking sucked at being a waiter. You're being too hard on yourself.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I'm sure you're fine. I was going to say, if you could be a good butler, you would have to have been a good server. Better than a... I was a better butler you had have to have been a good server better than a i was a better butler than a waiter uh but not a very good not very good at that either there was one time where a woman at was like all right we have a wedding like i need you to iron this for me and i brought it back and she was like could you bring me the iron and just and then let me watch her do it.
Starting point is 00:49:06 She was like, you should watch this so you're being better at this. Yeah, you suck at this. Oh, well, look. You were a butler? Because I just accepted that as a normal answer, that you were a butler, and then decided not to ask.
Starting point is 00:49:17 It's basically concierge, but at a British hotel. Of course it was a butler. Of course. Yeah. It's like a bellhop at a British hotel. He has butler face. Is what a butler is. R a butler. Of course. It's like a bellhop at a British hotel. He has butler face.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Resting butler face. I do have resting butler face. My mouth is always like in a little quasi frown. It's a different RBF and he's got it. Correct. But yeah, so the actual AI offered by the company
Starting point is 00:49:44 is actually a chatbot named, other than the cool ash pictures that accompany the test, a chatbot named Olivia, who takes applicants through the application process, helps hiring managers filter through applicants and schedule interviews, and is, and you're going to be shocked to hear this, if you ever used a non-human assistant is fucking terrible at their job. Yeah. I'm sorry. I didn't understand that. I'm sorry. I didn't understand that. I'm sorry. I didn't understand that.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's just the same message you get over and over and over again. God forbid you have a person a job. Yeah. To do it. person a job yeah to do it i'll start believing in this technology when i'm on a phone tree and like my brain doesn't immediately be like operator operator can i have it let me speak to a human please could i speak yeah i've just never things are happening to me things are happening to me these things are happening to me right now this is what i'm talking about yes i listen it's all this two things psych it's it's bia and this this is not smart this is not smart stuff come on people come on look there's a sales guy from
Starting point is 00:50:55 the tech company who goes to mickey d's headquarters and goes guys i got this new technology and you really need to and i really help you with your bottom blah. And it's all a bunch of BS numbers. And they're like, oh, that's cool. Sign us up. This is all it is. Yeah. Yeah. It's amusing, but sad.
Starting point is 00:51:12 To that point, Paradox is valued at $1.5 billion. And yet most of these hiring chatbots are not even as advanced or elaborate as ChatGPT. They are rudimentary and can only ask basic questions. So brutal. Yeah. It's just a blue humanoid alien gloss on the same shit that's been happening.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And everybody has recognized if you throw AI on it, it's going to, it's going to sell your sales. People are going to have a much easier time selling it because everybody's just like, wow. If you want me to not like you right away, do one of the say, oh, what's your what's your personality test or what's your what's your what's your ocean or what's your blah, blah, blah. That's actually happened. I've actually had people do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:03 I'd rather you ask me my goddamn sign yeah like just don't yeah bad i'm sorry yeah no it's all bullshit and there is like interesting stuff being done in ai like i think right now they're trying to like you know they they figured out the folding of like how proteins are folded that That is still the thing that I'm going to like AI has solved a scientific medical issue that is going to help scientists cure disease. So great. It was all worth it. gets into the level of if a salesperson is trying to sell it then you're probably fucked in some way it's not like trying to solve a existing problem like i don't know death yeah it's not gonna be good there's also a new one that i just read about where they're trying an ai is trying to figure out how to translate smell like a so a computer can like evaluate a smell of bananas so they can
Starting point is 00:53:10 create more realistic banana breath for Kinch Conch someone has to do it but like that smell is actually like have you ever seen dogs who can like smell cancer and like various diseases have scents and so it would
Starting point is 00:53:28 be like an amazing breakthrough it would be like basically what theranos was promising with like just a tiny bit of blood except you don't need any blood it just like comes up and kind of you get sniffed by a robot so it seems a little unnerving but i like it where yeah that's a good point yeah that's a good point that's an excellent i take it back as long as it's not anthropomorphized robot yeah yeah come here come here let me let me get a whiff of you why'd you give it that voice this is a thing as an object why'd you make it a person get over here let me get a good whiff of you why is its voice so low the smell like it smokes cigarettes yeah all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about tesla we'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:55:25 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:09 I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them wise. I just come here to play basketball every single day,
Starting point is 00:56:54 and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare
Starting point is 00:57:12 surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:29 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And so Cybertrucks are already, you know, they finally shipped about a month and a half ago. Thank God. Started selling to a lot of Elon fanboys, started selling above sticker being traded on StockX like they were a pair of sneakers. spend with them that this machine that was supposed to be able to handle torrents of gunfire cannot stand up to a little bit of rain unfortunately they've been complaining on forums about small orange flex appearing on the car after driving it in the rain for oh but this is i mean how how is a car supposed to be able to stand up? They were driving in the rain for two days.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I mean, come on, guys. No, no, no. Cars can't hold. Oh, wait, no. I was thinking that's a tissue box. Can't stand to be outside for two days. You make that mistake all the time. God, it's trying on our friendship.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Yeah. I need to put the poster back up that has car tissue buttons. But yeah, so this is as a result of its unusual stainless steel exoskeleton, which it also has trouble with stains. The owner's manual mentions the possibility of corrosion with a surprisingly, quote, fussy maintenance guide for a car that looks like it belongs to RoboCop, requiring drivers to immediately remove corrosive substances like grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.
Starting point is 00:59:24 So never leave the garage yes this is like this feels like have you ever like gotten a really expensive like pair of shoes or like so like a really nice shirt and then you're just like terrified to wear it like that it's that if you were like driving that shirt driving around with that shirt on the outside of your car. But if it was really well done, it's supposed to be well made. It could last you forever. Yeah. That's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Right. There's this substance on the exterior of cars that's called the orange peel that is this thick layer of wax and plastic that is the thing that makes your car glossy, and it's the thing that keeps the metal on your car separated from the elements. And it's one of those things that I'm sure Elon Musk didn't fuck with because he wanted the car to look like it was from the future but it existed all these years for a reason it turns out like the you can't just have the metal that's inside the car just on the outside of the car it's going to look like a rusted out
Starting point is 01:00:38 piece of shit pretty soon which is you know i mean is that what it is, you know, I mean, is that what it is? Maybe? You know. Yeah. Some may say. Some may say. But it says you have to, like, remove a dead bug immediately from your car. It's, like, so stressful. I can't imagine having...
Starting point is 01:01:00 Pull over! Pull over! Pull over! I'm going to fucking fly. Pull over! This is going to bankrupt my whole family. The splat happens. Splat. Pull over. pull over, pull over. I'm going to fucking fly. Pull over. This is going to bankrupt my whole family. The splat happens. Splat.
Starting point is 01:01:06 Pull over. Rub it off. Listen, nobody looks cool in that thing. Nobody. I think they look. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. If I did a couple sit-ups, I think if I drove it shirtless, I could probably pull it off.
Starting point is 01:01:22 If you, listen, if you're going to get a car like that, you had better be full on looking like freaking Matrix. Okay? Like, please, imagine at least if you're going to be Yahoo enough to have a car that falls apart in the rain,
Starting point is 01:01:41 but something about bullets, just dress for the occasion please entertain us please with the full picture that's all i have that is funny that it can repel bullets but not water you know it is a very yeah yeah it is like priorities the aliens and signs poop there you go everything has a weakness yeah that would be a good that that should have been aliens and signs weakness not water bird poop i thought you're gonna say they should have all been cyber trucks they should have all been driving around in cyber trucks
Starting point is 01:02:17 that would have been fucking cool oh that would have been crazy oh my god but yeah now they the cyber truck owners are having to take maintenance tips from people who owned another doomed stainless steel vanity car, the DeLorean. And it's like, no, actually, if you like do Windex, like the second after you drive it for five minutes, you can actually keep it looking pretty good. But you have to keep Windex with you and stop every two miles. Oh, my God. Yeah. What a waste. good uh but you have to like keep windex with you and stop every two miles oh my god yeah what a waste there's there's no passenger seats in it because it's the loneliest fucking people in the whole world who drive those goddamn things no need it's a repellent it's a repellent but also too you know you want to see some badass bulletproof cars all All you got to do is go to South America, man.
Starting point is 01:03:06 They are everywhere. I mean, I've seen them. They look fire. And trust me, they're gorgeous. The leather is fabulous. And the driver is like buff. And everyone looks fly. So that's all you need.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I like that. Yeah. I'm in. Count me in. Don't ask for another life. It's also just worth notingla had the worst performance of any s&p 500 stock this year so you know i don't know it just feels like he's like the the stuff that has been evident to a lot of us who are paying attention for a long time like even
Starting point is 01:03:40 the fanboys in the financial industry are starting to be like, wait, but what if he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about? What if this is all... Yeah. So, anyways. We'll keep our eye on it. I have nothing good to say. This is Market Watch. Market Watch.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah. Finally, the podcast has made this pivot. The pivot that it needed to make the whole time. That's what I'm talking about. Let's do it. We're going to have someone reading a ticker throughout the entire... I would have so much fun you don't even know.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I would give you the backstory of every CEO. One of my favorite pastimes. CEO jerk. That's too interesting. What you said was too interesting. Yeah. Just numbers. Can you give us the craziest or most interesting story about an anonymous U.S. CEO?
Starting point is 01:04:34 Well, there's no anon because everybody knows if I say anything. But it's all playing out. Look. Go look at who was on the cover of Forbes. Forbes even has its own thing about how many people were on the cover of Forbes that were criminals. Right? Criminals. Bitcoin.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Theranos. Right? We work. Like, we've seen all this stuff. And one of the biggest signs is when somebody comes in, like Mr. You-Know-Who, and says they founded a company that they want that's right off the bat you know this is trash yeah interesting right trash because anybody with a personality let's go back to personalities anybody the personality that says something like that is a dangerous person meaning dangerous like they'll take your money and they won't give a shit so be careful people
Starting point is 01:05:23 keep your head on a swivel out there, people, while you're out there in this market, in this market world of ours. Carmen Rita Wong, what a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Starting point is 01:05:38 Always happy to be with you guys. Blake, so nice to be with you. Same, nice to meet you. Yeah, you can get me at Instagram, off social, all that, CarmenRitaWong. Yeah, yeah. Or CarmenRitaWong.com. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? That I've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah. Let's talk about something you've been enjoying. More media? Okay. This is my wheelhouse. I am a Dune freak since the book. Dune freak. I will absorb Dune freak since the book. Dune freak. I will absorb anything Dune related.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Wow. So should people, where should people start? The book? Oh, damn. Is that a real tattoo? It's a real tattoo. My big brother and I were, we were the biggest Dune heads when we were kids. So, yeah, that's for him.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Not for Denis Villeneuveny vianuev the director or the bad movie from the 80s but it's just great stuff do you like part one i did like it a lot yeah it was cool i like anything the director does uh vianuev but this one the buzz on the number two is that is insane like way above number one so i'm number one was like cool but it felt like i think i think i also didn't know how much of it like how to what degree it was like the first half of a movie you know yeah yeah it was it was But the second one is supposed to be bonkers. So I've got seats on the first night. I cannot wait. Love it. Love it. If you want to laugh a lot and have some fun, do it while you're inebriated. Watch the first movie done with Sting in a tiny little metal bikini pants.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Oh, yeah. David Lynch. Great bad. Yeah. Good, good, good, yeah. David Lynch. Great bad. Yeah. Good, good, good, bad. Good, good, bad. Blake Wexler. Happy birthday to Blake. Happy birthday to Blake.
Starting point is 01:07:34 To you. Thank you both. Where can people find you, follow you, wish you happy birthday? All that good stuff. People can wish me happy birthday for the rest of the year. Until my next one, to be completely honest. At Blake Wexler on all social media. This is his food, folks.
Starting point is 01:07:49 He lives off this. This is my food. Nourish me with your birth. With my own birth. I don't know what that. And milk me. Oh, my God. Some stand-up dates.
Starting point is 01:08:00 March 15th, I'll be at Strong Rope Brewery in Brooklyn, New York, Gowanus. April, I'll be in Cincinnati, Bristol, Tennessee, and Pittsburgh in May. And in June, I'll be in Austin, Texas. Austin, Texas, the capital of stand-up comedy. The capital of conservative stand-up comedy. Nah, not Austin. Nah, Austin's blue. Austin's blue.
Starting point is 01:08:25 You'll have a blast. The food is great. I love it. I do like going to Austin. Yeah. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yes. Apple Plus. The whole catalog. Sponsored by.
Starting point is 01:08:41 $7.99 a month. Sponsored by. Dave Ross, who's a month. Sponsored by. Dave Ross, who's a very funny stand-up comedian. His Instagram handle is Dave to the Ross. He's been doing this thing
Starting point is 01:08:53 where he takes stock like sports team logos that you would see like a high school use or like a beer league or something. And then instead of the team name, he edits it to like these very, like these very funny lines. So there'll be one with like a beer league or something and then instead of the team name he edits it to like these very
Starting point is 01:09:05 like these very funny lines so there'll be one with like a like a guy about to hike a football and it just says do you know a good therapist but in a team you know in a team fun and there's another one where it's like a guy with a skull wearing a football helmet you know kind of like a raiders logo but a little more ha Halloween. And it just said I died playing football and an angry ball saying I'm always afraid like it's very, very I'm describing an image
Starting point is 01:09:34 based work of media, which I probably shouldn't have done. But if you go to add Dave to the Ross, it's very, very, very funny. That's great. Smart, too. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. I love it. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien tweet. I've been enjoying, uh,
Starting point is 01:09:53 just saw, uh, dopey, the dumb fuck on Twitter at Pete underscore irons, eight, seven, two Oh six. Usually I'll just do the at,
Starting point is 01:10:03 but his was so long convoluted, I just had to use what he wrote his name as. Dopey the dumb fuck. Tweeted, getting a question wrong at trivia and faking a hamstring pull. Oh, shit. Ah, damn it. Just rolling around on the ground. And then Austinheimer tweeted, what if instead of the 60s the new fantastic four took place in the 70s and instead of pedro pascal it started ryan gosling and russell crowe and instead of being superheroes they were both private detectives oh what a great movie i love that movie was fun that movie was fun um you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:10:47 We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Our episodes. Where we like off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin Conner, is there a song that you think people might enjoy yeah so this track has a vintage smoky jazz club vibe to it it's from a
Starting point is 01:11:14 Brazilian Norwegian singer-songwriter Charlotte dos Santos there's some gorgeous falsetto and vocal work going on here it's really chill and vibey so check out this song. It's called Watching You by Charlotte Dos Santos. And you can find that song in the footnotes. Footnotes? All right. We'll look after that.
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