The Daily Zeitgeist - Days Of Our Zeits 6/22: White Lives Matter, Mixer, Joel Schumacher, Breonna Taylor

Episode Date: June 22, 2020

On this edition of Days of Our Zeits Jack and Miles discuss White Lives Matter trending as KPop Stans take over another hashtag to drive it into the ground, Mixer has been absorbed by Facebook Gaming ...and all former Mixer streamers can go back to Twitch, Director Joel Schumacher has passed away at 80 years old, and Breonna Taylor is no longer trending and her killers still walk free. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:17 I am back. He's back. Glad to be here. I missed you guys. I missed your ears your ears miles i missed your face yeah do this do this one dimensional or two-dimensional flat screen we call zoom uh or whatever whatever app it is uh all right let's tell uh our listeners what is trending right now hashtag white lives matter is trending whoa whoa You're starting the show off with that? That's right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Wow, he's back. Yeah, this is so funny. We talk about the Avengers of generations and interests that have come together in solidarity with Black Lives Matter. And despite K-pop fans being, you know, they like to dox and straight up harass people who don't fuck with their bands. But on some level, they're all together on the same page when it comes to drowning out racist hashtags. So White Lives Matter is trending because people caught wind of it trending for the wrong reasons. And then K-pop Twitter just did its thing and just flooded it with fan cams a bunch of just you know people saying you know racists are dumb black lives matter and so to the point where twitter because
Starting point is 00:03:29 of all the accounts are seemingly like related to k-pop it's treating it as a trending music topic so that's what they did k-pop twitter did their thing it's so weird it's so weird honest i feel like the next move is like if these young kids are out here obviously learning how to like because this is a response like older people like getting off on a thing trending and then you know younger people like dude watch this shit fuck your hashtag bye uh right next step like yo zoomers man you got to start like you know fucking with your your parents set top boxes and like fucking blocking the website addresses so they can't get to fox news and all this bullshit and then be like i don't know what you're talking about i
Starting point is 00:04:08 think your shit's broke and then they gotta go through a few days of frustration i've heard of that i've heard of people doing that like blocking that channel like using the child uh lock to block the channel on their parents home television uh and yeah that that always seemed like just a fun way like speed bump to put in the way of uh you know racism but the it like things like this makes it makes me think like maybe maybe that can actually be an effective method since that is like one of the things that we have on our side is you know know, knowledge of how technology works. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:04:47 I think that's why too, like a lot of the conservative messaging is like so weird to younger people. Like obviously you can get red pilled on Twitter through all kinds of videos and things like that, but just a lot of like what the part, like just the, you know, it's not vibing or not vibing with the youth as much to the point where now
Starting point is 00:05:02 like they're like, you know, fuck racists or like even, you know, people all over the world are participating in this so we'll see we'll see what happens with them mixer is trending is it people making cocktails what are we talking about here people talking about cocktails no mixer baby it was like uh you know like a place for gamers to broadcast you know their gameplay sessions like Twitch, you know. But Jack, you already know about this. I don't even know why you're asking what Mixer is. I know. Miles, I'm playing dumb so that the people can have, you know, an audience surrogate.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And I don't have to tell you. And you knew it was called Beam way, way back before it was Mixer, obviously. And now Microsoft is shutting it down. You know, the thing that i think a lot of people i'm giddy about it because dj danil uh game master in chief uh at the show here you know when mixer first came out there was a lot of news because this gamer named streamer named ninja was moving over to mixer from twitch and he was like one of the biggest dudes on twitch and so this when he went to mixer people, people were like, whoa, what's
Starting point is 00:06:05 going to happen with Twitch or whatever? But really they just, they just handed this man a $30 million a year deal basically to leave Twitch. And now that Mixer is folding, he could go back to Twitch, but basically Mixer is now merging with Facebook gaming. And there were even like rumors that Facebook, when they were starting Facebook gaming, were were even like rumors that facebook when they were starting facebook gaming were trying even like offered like uh streamers like ninja and this other guy shroud like even double what they got for mixer so we're talking like 60 million dollars a year to stream play video games well see and that's why i hate to tell you this jack but i quit okay uh and you can follow me on twitch.tv slash milesofgray, where I will just be doing nonsensical voices while playing GTA.
Starting point is 00:06:51 What's your gamer character? I'm sorry, what do you mean? Oh, like my persona? Yeah, what's your persona? Yeah, what do you do when you stream? It depends on the game. Sometimes if Red Dead, maybe I'll get a little bit of a draw going, and I'll be a little more rascally.
Starting point is 00:07:06 I mean, you are a rascal. I and I'll be a little more rascally. But you know. I mean, you are a rascal. I've always said that. Thank you. Thank you. I'm a rascal on a rascal. I actually just got a rascal on rascal. That is a wild amount of money.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So Mixer is just folding and Facebook is like, hey, we'll pick it up. Or did Facebook acquire Mixer? No, they're like, you are ours now. Like this is Facebook. You are ours. like this is facebook you are this you know how facebook does entered the mixer headquarters like a SWAT team yeah they're just it's just it's you get near facebook and they're like wait they're doing the thing we're trying to rip them off
Starting point is 00:07:37 better than okay let's just buy them and now right now we are them yeah Yeah. That's wild stuff, I'm sure, for some old people who aren't as familiar with gaming and streaming services as I am. Joel Schumacher is trending. RIP Joel Schumacher. He is the director of such films as The Lost Boys, The Batman Forever. St. Elmo's Fire.
Starting point is 00:08:02 St. Elmo's Fire. Falling Down. Robin. Fall's fire. St. Elmo's fire. Batman and Robin falling down. But he was, I always respected him for how candid he was about Batman and Robin being a total disaster.
Starting point is 00:08:18 And he like owned every decision, was like, yeah, no, that was me. Yeah, I just really, really, really blew it um but he so he started out as a costume designer and then uh you know wrote a couple successful screenplays moved on over to directing and had a very very successful directing career yeah and yeah uh openly gay director too or there was a thing of talking about how with batman and robin um like george clooney like had said that he was playing batman
Starting point is 00:08:53 as gay uh in that oh really like yeah like in an interview with barbara walters uh because he was you know that there was everyone in that batman and robin like it's all homo what's going on like yeah so what this every movie he did was so visually like fucking it was a movie now i'm curious about falling down as a kid i loved it i gotta i have to feel i don't know i don't think it's gonna track now can only imagine what a white man who got so angry at everything, he blew up a town movie is like. Yeah, that's a good point. But I do remember he was talking very sweetly to a young black kid who was like, whoa, what you doing with that bazooka?
Starting point is 00:09:32 And he was shooting it at a construction site. Yeah, that's right. And he was like, hey, man, I'm just kind of a, I'm a renegade, bro. And then there was the racist dude who was selling him the army surplus surplus stuff we had to escape so i don't know again uh but these are movies in the 90s i don't think there's not many films in the 90s that track now that fully hold up yeah even shit there's not any movies fucking three years ago that track so i went and saw a screening of his movie tiger land which was uh the first time he worked with colin farrell and then jo Joe Schumacher did an interview afterwards
Starting point is 00:10:06 and was very funny and said that Val Kilmer was a psychopath. Really? I don't know if that is, if he was being technical or flippant. Right. But yeah, he said that he was always surprised that when he turned on the news that Val Kilmer wasn't holed up in a trailer somewhere with automatic weapons, like firing at the police.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I mean, it's wild to think between the Batman movies, he made A Time to Kill. Yeah, that's right. You know what I mean? What a sandwich of films like these bad people like huh and then you make one of the sweatiest film i think what is the sweatiest film of all time uh right some comedian said that but it's so true like everybody's is glistening uh just to give you that that summer southern that heat but mcconaughey's hair is always just a little bit wet yep yeah yep he yeah oliver
Starting point is 00:11:07 platt looking extra sweaty too oh yeah i mean oliver platt has never not looked sweaty but yeah even in three musketeers he looks sweaty as shit that's amazing that he was in three musketeers they're like who should we get for the swashbuckling adventure oliver platt that just shows you the strength of that brand though like oh that guy was just kind of like a like with like was he like a precursor to jack black of kind of like a less like leading guy thing who was just kind of witty and was like you know oliver platt kind of gives you some spice and edge or some shit yeah i'd say it's like somewhere between jack black and john malkovich like because he was like, Oliver Platt kind of gives you some spice and edge or some shit. Yeah, I'd say it's somewhere between Jack Black and John Malkovich because he was sort of character actor-y a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Right. But yeah, somewhere in there for sure. He was definitely fun. You knew you were in for a good time when he showed up. Oh, absolutely. I'm sure it's the same when he shows up to a party too. You're like, dude, when Ollie shows up, bro, buckle up. Buckle up. Oh, absolutely. I'm sure it's the same when he shows up to a party, too. You're like, dude, when Ali shows up, bro, buckle up. Buckle up.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Oh, he's Canadian. Okay. All right. Shout out to the Canadian guy. Shout out to Canada. My new home if Trump wins. I'm going to New Zealand, mate. I don't know about you, but I'm going to New Zealand. I think I also claimed I was going to move to
Starting point is 00:12:24 Canada if Bush won re-election. I think I also claimed I was going to move to Canada if Bush won re-election. I did not follow through on that, but this is different this time. This is what we call a liberal pump fake. Yeah. And then Andres Guardado is trending. Breonna Taylor is not trending anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Is not trending. it's not trending no yeah should be and we need to get her trending again her murderers are still walking the streets there was a quote-unquote police report that they had released we just have you know every every week we're looking at more and more cases of just how the police are allowed to kill people undisturbed and then use these bizarre they're not even cover-up tactics they're just not investigating or just not sharing any information and not holding their own officers accountable so right um i don't know you know andres guardado is a young man who was killed in los angeles by the la sheriff's department and he was a security guard who was killed in Los Angeles by the LA Sheriff's Department.
Starting point is 00:13:26 And he was a security guard. He was a security guard outside of an auto shop. He was patrolling as part of his job as a security guard. And the police said he had a gun and they shot him and killed him. And we don't have much evidence to show what happened. Why don't we just check the police body cam footage? Oh, they don them they don't have them they don't have them but what's funny is you have alex villanueva of the la sheriff's department on fox news this morning being like and see this is why we need funding it's like shut the fuck up dude don't even this has nothing to do with that but you're just
Starting point is 00:14:01 going to use these really insincere rhetorical points to try and keep the ball moving you don't need funding and on fox news they were trying to act like that the sheriff's department is entire for the responsible for like the entire county as if there was no lapd or burbank pd or s santa monica pd like they were like you know this is the entire county and we're sir don't be so ridiculous and again showing showing these like one side versions of reality to an audience that's definitely willing to hear them. But, uh, yeah, I mean, this is why we absolutely need to keep the pressure on to dis to demand, defund, dismantle, whatever you want to call it. But we have is a very very clear problem with cops that are killing black and brown people um it's it's anybody i mean the amount of people that i've already there's there's still killings happening uh an officer-involved shooting since george floyd's death like this is just until we until we fix that problem i can't see
Starting point is 00:15:01 any way this would change like while they know we're paying attention they just can't can't stop themselves um again because i think too it's like i'm saying like white supremacy it's like a virus it's like anything that lives if it feels in at threatened then it will do what it can to reassert itself to just show vitality that it's living and you're seeing that with lynchings that go unsolved where this i don't know well all the excuses coming out of palmdale uh and like are unbelievable everywhere like it's it doesn't i mean it makes sense in the sense that the the way the police have been responding is petulant and violent and you know clearly uh defensive and violently so um and the you know the ace that they have to play right now
Starting point is 00:15:56 is that they you know they are the ones who are supposed to be that who we are uh entrusting to protect the the populace and if they're going to you know murder people then there's that there's not much we can do under the current system also this is why we need to push and push and push another tweet i saw it well how the fuck are they in the labor movement that's really i was you know we that's really another thing that really needs to be sorted out these people are not workers right why are they in the labor movement why are they you how are how like because all all i've seen that union do is give them outsized power and influence and untouchable income that's another thing i mean these again this is why this whole last month has begun a very what i hope is a deep examination for people at every level into themselves into their own communities
Starting point is 00:16:52 think about what is going on like and how can we make this run better that isn't that we're not just reading about some person a kid who's doing his job like he had two security jobs trying to go to school and then he has to get murdered come on we need justice we need justice don't let brianna taylor's name uh fall out of the zeitgeist and or any of them you know it's sad i feel like we have to say not we would have to say like a thousand names every show we have to say at least one that's of what we know let's not even forget people who might be you know been maimed by police or disabled as a result or something like that there's so many more and it's just that's why i think hopefully a lot of people just keep that energy on the real thing here is that at the end of the day we need to come together to dismantle these systems and actually do what we have to do and yes even anna just puts in the chat elijah mcclain that young man who was killed
Starting point is 00:17:50 again horrific these some of these cops are just out here murdering you know yeah that's all it is and you you know you can show me a thousand and one clips of like the cops that you know played well fucking one-on-one in the street with the kids when when someone complained about their playing ball in the street or someone saving a baby's life but don't like you know the media has done a really interesting job of shoving that back into people's faces to try and act like as if this is an actual conversation happening where yes people are marching it's like but also look at what the police do well guess what i saw i saw hundreds of thousands of people saying that the police ain't shit so you can show me two videos of them doing right because what i'm seeing are way more people who are of a completely different belief
Starting point is 00:18:34 and they don't that is not going to sway them because what we're looking for is just just treatment and not to be criminalized for existing it It's real simple. All right. With that, those are some of the things that are trending right now. Fireworks are also trending. We will probably cover those in a later episode, but hit me on Twitter if you have theories on why firework reports or complaints are surging so much um and uh yeah i'm gonna be researching that story because i'm noticing it um all right that's gonna do it for today uh we'll be back tomorrow uh with a whole other episode until then uh be kind to each other be
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