The Daily Zeitgeist - dEmOn sPeRmZ, SCAMborghini 7.30.20

Episode Date: July 30, 2020

In episode 683, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Sara June to discuss Representative Louie Gohmert testing positive for Covid after refusing to wear a mask, tech companies wanting Trump to win, T...rump giving up on Michigan, services to call instead of the police, a PPP scammer, and more!FOOTNOTES: Rep. Gohmert Tests Positive For COVID After Perennially Refusing To Wear Mask GOP Rep. Louie Gohmert Suggests Mask Wearing Gave Him Coronavirus GOP @RepLouieGohmert, who just tested positive for COVID-19 tells a reporter he blames wearing a mask for his result: "I can't help but think that if I hadn't been wearing a mask so much in the last 10 days or so, I really wonder if I would have gotten it." Tax Hike Under Biden Poses Bigger Threat to Tech Than Hearing Michigan Threatens to Slip From Trump as He Goes Quiet on Airwaves 99% Invisible: Freedom House Ambulance Service Florida man fraudulently obtained $3.9 million in PPP loans and used some of it to buy Lamborghini, feds say WATCH: 79.5 - Sisters Unarmed Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:40 Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant, Sarah June! Oh, baby, baby, it's a Sarah June! I'm stealing it. I'm stealing it. Yeah, I think the fun of singing that song is just doing the... Absolutely. Sarah, how are you? How have you been? I'm good. I actually have a guy coming to get my chickens
Starting point is 00:04:10 right now. You got a guy coming to get your chickens? Yeah, I got a... I had to get rid of some roosters. I have to get rid of some roosters. He's coming right now. And I was like, can you wait? And he was like, no. He's like, no, I need these roosters. He's like, I'm on my way. Because I remember that was a little issue you were trying to sort out.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You got the roosters. You're like, what do I do with these roosters? So what number of chickens are you going to and what will you be left with? What are we looking at? So I hatched eight chickens. Four of them turned out to be roosters. Four hens, four roosters. Real gender equity on my staff.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I call them my writing staff. I'm the head writer. Fantastic numbers. Yeah. We have great numbers and we're actually going to get rid of three men today. We're going to be the most progressive writing staff in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yeah, one on four. Your AP area got ratioed. That ratio was not good. You know what an apiary is? Isn't that what it is? Nope, that's bees. Bees, that's right. That's bees, honey.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Are chickens not bees? Actually, I'm not sure. I'm so confused. I mean, chicken of the sea, bumblebee tuna, they're four, same thing. I just like- Chickens, fish, fish bees sarah your approach
Starting point is 00:05:26 was like annoyed preschool teacher it's like oh is that what an ap area is all right so jack why don't you sit the fuck down because i'm the teacher and you're four years old um next kids do we know the difference okay actually before i get started do we know the difference between a bee and a chicken everyone okay good oh they're thinking of. You're thinking of aviary, Jack, but that's incorrect because chickens also don't fly. So what is it? Just a good old chicken coop? Chicken coop. It's a coop, baby.
Starting point is 00:05:53 It's a coop. It's a coop de ville. It's a coop and a rooster. And what? You can only have... You're saying, what was the balance? You can only have one rooster, correct? In LA County, yeah, as backyard chickens ordinances, you can only have one rooster per coop.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Oh, but what was the deal with the safety? Because you're saying roosters are out here violating the numbers. What was that thing? Here's something that I found out, and this is related to my underrated for today, by the way. Okay. Well, then maybe we'll get into that. We'll get into it later. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I'll tell you guys all about that. Before we do that, we are going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Louie Gomer is positive for COVID. Put some class on that. Yeah. Or is it Gomert? I don't know how to say his name. It's Gomert.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I like Gomer, dude. Louie Gomer. Louie Gomer, yes. louis gomer louis gomer yes uh we're going to talk about uh michigan trump's relation to michigan as uh it relates to the electoral college uh we are going to talk about who these tech execs really want to win this upcoming election uh we'll talk about America's frontline doctors and just kind of touch on them where they what their beliefs are how much we should be listening to
Starting point is 00:07:12 what they have to say we're going to have a segment of a cool thing I heard on another podcast and you guys are really scraping the barrel here we just miss being in an office We're just turning shit we do in the office
Starting point is 00:07:27 Into a segment And then Miles is going to open a cold brew real slow But first We'd like to ask our guests What is something from your search history That's revealing about who you are For my search history I have recently been searching
Starting point is 00:07:43 Zoom China And that's a great search It's a great search to do Good to find out Um, uh, for my search history, I have recently been searching Zoom China. Uh, and that's a great search. It's a great search to do. Good to find out. Um, and it turns out that, uh, the Chinese government spying on you through Zoom and TikTok is actually still less invasive than the American government spying on you through TikTok and Zoom and Instagram and Facebook and your telephone. So I feel much better now about the amount of information just about me and my buying habits streaming around the world.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Right. I like to imagine every time I make an Etsy purchase, it's like the butterfly effect. I hit click on that vintage caftan and just all of this information streams around the world like gusts of wind. It's the new nature, my purchase history. It's actually an interesting point. The world is so connected that it's just pure chaos. There's no controlling anything. Yeah, just clicking something sets off a chain of 9,000 macros and algorithms.
Starting point is 00:08:44 This is why all your Facebook ads are so off the wall. You're like, why would they, why would they advertise this to me? And it's like, there's a, there's an algorithm, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:53 and every time you click, you're like resetting the algorithm, feeding the algorithm. So yeah, every time I, uh, I buy, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:00 a VHS copy of Cheech and Chogs up in smoke on eBay or whatever. Yeah. Um, just, they get the wrong idea about you they get the wrong idea about me well yeah sorry i was saying they say it's dead stock and new in the wrapper but it never is it never is the barcode scratched off you're like it's a promo copy you got that's still damaged and i will get that perfect copy um yeah i think i do the same thing when i'm high on the god's internet as i think of like the shit that i look at and i'm like oh maybe i need to like follow another sports team online more vigorously so if i ever like was on the lam and they're like look if this guy searches arsenal weed and anything to do with like
Starting point is 00:09:39 basketball like it's this is the guy this is like instead of a wanted poster with your face on it there's just a poster with a list of your search terms yeah they're like this guy's probably wearing a hat where his soccer jerseys is going to talk about being from the valley incessantly and like how like og kush is overrated because it was talked about in rap too much and there are other strains that we okay wow okay yeah now we're getting into controversial territory yeah look but what i mean to say is that there are more strains of kush than og and i think that's correct just became a og just became synonymous with kush whatever yeah and it sounds cool and see look now now the nsa oh they're grabbing me now i gotta go whoa here they are here they are suits and
Starting point is 00:10:22 sunglasses just burst into Miles' room. What is something you think is overrated, Sarajoon? Well, here we go. We're going to get into a little bit more of the dark stuff. I know you guys love to have me, comedian Sarajoon, on here to yell at you. To plunge the depths of the human psyche. We already had the apiary smoke show. Right. I mean, first of all, you're doing
Starting point is 00:10:45 it wrong because you're putting your birds in an apiary. That's incorrect. I'm really squishing them in there. You're already brought to the darkness. Making my birds live in a flat screen. I'm not getting any honey from these birds. That's overrated.
Starting point is 00:11:01 This is like black and white honey that comes out and it tastes awful. Overrated. Husky just like black and white honey that comes out and it tastes awful. Overrated. Husky Pomeranians. You guys need to fucking stop with designer breeding. I don't know who all you are, but I have seen too many fucking Husky Pomeranian mixes in my Craigslist searches for puppies.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I will not adopt. Here's the fucking thing. When I came on this podcast a few months ago to talk about how I had chickens, some people replied to let me know that roosters were extremely violent
Starting point is 00:11:31 and would rape and murder hens. And that's why, you know, you had to have tremendous amounts of hens to one rooster or else the rooster will just, like, go crazy. I did some research
Starting point is 00:11:42 because this was very upsetting to me and I found out that this kind of aggression in roosters is not natural and is the result of selective breeding. It is an unintended side effect of selective breeding for other traits like being fast growing,
Starting point is 00:11:57 having large breasts, and like not, you know, not developing certain kinds of diseases. Right. So the chickens that I have, there is a very low probability, number one, that the roosters will turn out to be as aggressive. But the point is that when you selectively breed animals
Starting point is 00:12:14 for certain traits, you are also breeding for other traits. And usually those traits are like... Ones you don't want. Neurological dysfunction. Yeah. Sure, sure sure right right so that's why that's why purebred dogs are so much more nervous and prone to developing different types of diseases than mutts you know or or you know like just dogs that are interracial people
Starting point is 00:12:37 yes interracial famously interbred dogs yeah but like and when it comes to designer breeding what you're doing, especially with this absolute monstrosity that is the Husky Pomeranian, and let me say this, first of all, very cute. Very cute dog. Holy shit, I'm just looking at him right now.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah, what you're looking at here is a mini Husky. It's cute. Yeah. But a Pomeranian is not a healthy dog, and it is not good. Yeah, Miles just saw one. All right, now think about its joint problems miles yeah fuck that nah i don't care that's evil yeah that's it's it sucks because
Starting point is 00:13:14 i'm like well cute little husky puppy and then i realize it's it's actually a fully grown husky pomeranian mix and then it's like kill me i mean dude pugs can't give birth naturally like pugs they have to have cesareans because they can't give birth vaginally because they're so bred and the breathing issues like i had a friend who had a bulldog who was like you know they had to breathe that flat ass face and it was like yes the end of its life was so horrific sounding i'm like your dog is dying and it's like fucking up our mushroom high in your backyard. Can you do something about it? Oh my God,
Starting point is 00:13:47 that's the worst thing to hear when you're high on mushrooms is a dying dog. And you're looking at it and it's like eyes. And their eyes are watering and it's like, please just help me, sir.
Starting point is 00:13:59 And I'm like tripping. So I'm like, yes, I will, sir. Tell me where to take you. That cemetery. Oh, man. Yeah. Like,
Starting point is 00:14:08 and what's really fucked up and, and truly overrated about these dogs is like, nobody's getting a Husky Pomeranian. People, people are breeding big dogs to be smaller so that they can get them in an apartment building that has weight limits. Right. Or travel with them Or travel with them.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Or travel with them. They're portable, yeah. And that's really fucking shitty and it's really irresponsible and it is not okay to get a dog when you cannot care for that dog. And it's even worse to interbreed a dog and do designer breeding
Starting point is 00:14:41 to get a certain look and not think about the health of the dog and the needs of the dog and it just makes me so fucking mad every time i see one of these cute ass puppies and i they're so cute and they make me so upset right you're like what's going on you're like i love this and then it's a tragedy but it's also cute and i want to i love it and i hate it and i will give it an overrated yeah yeah right right right it's like i want to give it a little kiss on its tiny little head, but then I'm just like, Huskies need to be bigger than that. Huskies need a lot of room, you know?
Starting point is 00:15:10 Like, they're, especially in LA, this is a thing with, like, people get Huskies and they don't know how much work they are. They're really smart dogs. They're really big. They're very good at getting out. You have to have a very high fence, you know? Like, they have a very high fence. You know, like, they have a very strong prey instinct.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And I just can't tell you how many fucking ads I've seen of, like, we got a husky and we didn't realize that we would need to walk it every day. We didn't realize. Yeah, we didn't realize what it was. We didn't fucking Google it, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So, you know, please. Just saw one on a walk and we're like, that's beautiful. You know, just to, like, be cultural historians, do we, how far back do we take this mini dog trend? Because I feel like Paris Hilton made it like standard rich person accessory.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Well, it goes all the way back to the Chinese emperor. Right, right, right. But I'm thinking like in now, like sort of how modern, like the modernity in modernity and how we're looking at it now, like how that's really sort of reasserted itself as like this, like sort of class signifier almost too, where it's like dogs are putting a Chihuahua. Yeah. But Paris putting a Chihuahua in a purse was like a very big,
Starting point is 00:16:14 this is an accessory thing. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then, yeah, it is designer. It's being designed for its looks and without any conception of what, what the, what its insidesides are like or what the experience of the dog is going to be like.
Starting point is 00:16:30 People don't just want to get chihuahuas a naturally small dog because they're very nervous. And their heads are all big. I don't like that big ass brain on them. The other thing about chihuahuas is they're way less nervous in the wild or when they're feral because they run in packs. They run in packs of like eight or ten. And they can take down a coyote. So if you put a chihuahua with a bunch of other chihuahuas, I mean, immediately
Starting point is 00:16:54 it's chaos. But then later when they bond, they're like they help each other. And that's why like one chihuahua It's not fun to have around the house, but it's natural. They're safer. Yeah, when a chihuahua is like barking all the time, it's because it's like, I'm the only fucking chihuahua here.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Hello, hello, hello. That's what it's saying. You guys aren't going to bite anyone. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, I'm going to say rescue dogs.
Starting point is 00:17:23 Who rescued who? You know what I'm saying? It's a rescue dog Whoa I never thought about that Yeah, you ever think about that? Who did rescue you? Sometimes I think who taught who
Starting point is 00:17:31 Because the dogs teach me English And I teach them The dogs teach you Farsi Yeah, dogs taught me Farsi I speak Farsi now Thanks to my dogs I do
Starting point is 00:17:42 I've been underrated Getting a fucking dog. Dogs rule and I really want one and I can't have one right now. But I want one so bad. I've just noticed a lot of people getting dogs in quarantine because it's like it is a good time to get a dog if you're going to get one because everybody's home more and stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:58 It's very good for like especially for a dog that needs like an adjustment period you know. Separation anxiety and stuff. Underrated dogs. Have you guys thought about them? Have you seen them? I love them. Love dogs.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I love them. Love animals. I like animals. They're cute. Yeah, they're cute. They're really nice. They love you. I had a visit with a very, very nice dog,
Starting point is 00:18:16 a very large dog, a Golden Retriever Mastiff mix. Wow. That was so beautiful. Oh, my God. Just a sweet dog. I've never seen a dog that looked like a teddy bear. His face looks like a fucking teddy bear. It's so fluffy and overgrown.
Starting point is 00:18:30 The features are kind of obscured around it. But he's just light brown and teddy bear eyes and big nose. And he was just like, oh, he was so cute. And he was a big dog that never barks. And he would just come up and put his head on you his name is toast and i love him yeah let's just do another podcast like this sorry this talks about dogs you've seen it jack and i'm like what oh man no like oh fuck yeah i feel like that's kind of where some content is going to be headed with people just sort of
Starting point is 00:19:02 like needing to truly escape from like everything where it's sort of like I don't know there's this thing where it's like you're overhearing these like I don't know it's like you're at a coffee shop and there's three people who are way too excited about dogs talking about it it's a second screen content for just wasting time on the internet aww
Starting point is 00:19:19 oh shit that's so cute people have all these Instagram accounts for their cats and dogs and you know yeah yeah totally and then you meet those people who are there but then they're like bitter though when they're like they're like actually just follow that like account i'm like that's a dog kind of like that's like my dog but it's got like 15 000 followers on it so like just like follow me on there i'm like oh all right the cheat code hey yeah what's your insta oh just follow. Oh, I put all my shit on there.
Starting point is 00:19:46 He'll tell you everything you need to know. It's pom-poms with two Zs. He's actually got some really radical leftist viewpoints that he shares on his Instagram. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? People think you need to pay for weed, and it's not true. It's fake.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah, grow it. Oh, grow it. need to pay for weed and it's not true oh it's fake yeah grow it oh grow it pay for weed i bet you might just like deal it and then hang out at people's house oh break even let you smoke hey find some kids at their rich private school and then you tell them that you get weed straight from the people from the medical club and then you sell it to them at a 5x markup but then you leave it in the bottle because they trip off that, and then they call you every time, and look at you. Now you're rocking at least five Mitchell & Ness throwbacks that you can buy a month with your drug income.
Starting point is 00:20:31 I mean, guys, it's that simple. What is it, 2002 all over in here? It's easier than ever now to sell drugs to children. I always talk about how easy kids have it like with dispensaries and things like that like it was really a skill to go buy drugs like well yeah this is the problem to like navigate some like you had to have social skills now nerds can smoke pot too yeah yeah or even if you didn't man like because i remember you know uh back when i was uh you know a street entrepreneur you would interact with people who were like they were they were probably taking anxiety medication to meet you in a CVS parking lot.
Starting point is 00:21:10 But they were like, but I got to get I got to get these trees, man. I got to get these trees. But yeah, the kids, man, they don't know. They don't know that struggle. Now they just know about not going to school face to face with people. I'll be honest with you, dude. I didn't I didn't have very much of a struggle because I grew up in Northern California. It just grows out of the sidewalk there, basically.
Starting point is 00:21:28 I just meant more like when you had to go meet somebody, if your connect was dry, you had to go to somebody else. That whole thing. Real problem solving. Real problems. Problems here in the valley. Don't smoke weed off of the pavement, though, guys. Don't just pick up weed.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Just do it. Make sure there's a good amount of roundup on it anything that you would suggest to the burgeoning weed grower out there not that we can recommend it but if they did chicken shit man
Starting point is 00:22:00 that honey it's good it's working yeah it's good I got some it's working a milk and honey uh yeah it's good I got some pumpkins going too
Starting point is 00:22:08 I got a couple pumpkins this year you got a pumpkin growing I got two pumpkins growing how long does it take for a pumpkin to grow about four months okay
Starting point is 00:22:16 yeah my mind from like it is yeah it's pretty long um yeah they're they're growing I'm really excited
Starting point is 00:22:23 because we you know we have a black cat and so I'm gonna take some fucking pictures around halloween him in the pumpkin patch you guys i'll send them to you i know listeners listeners deserve this content you know we're all in pandemic we've all lost our jobs a third of us are about to get evicted but god damn it you're gonna see a fucking black cat in a pumpkin patch. If I have anything to say about it. And it's going to be real. No,
Starting point is 00:22:48 it's not some clip art bullshit. Yeah. Not some fucking Photoshop. My fucking cat. That's my black cat. God damn it. Right. That pumpkin has leaves on it.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But that's actually something I haven't thought about a lot since, uh, weed was legalized is like the very first thing I heard about, like a legalize it argument was from my ninth grade social studies teacher who was like hell yeah the only reason that alcohol is legal and weed isn't is because it's hard to make good alcohol at your house so they can tax that but if they legalize weed people could just like grow it You can grow that in your bathtub. You can grow it anywhere you want in a closet and just get a nice little glow light and you're good. I like the idea of somebody who blew out their bathroom
Starting point is 00:23:33 as a grow room and then just used the bathtub. It's like, yeah, fuck it, man. This is the planter right there. Yeah. I don't shower anymore, dude. Yeah, fuck it. Yeah, so I mean, that is something that you shouldn't need a dispensary. My history teacher, also AP US history teacher, he was like all about weed legalization.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He's like, you know, I wouldn't do it, but if it was legal, I'd be smoking immediately. I think I would do it. And we were always like, well, when it's legal, we're going to come and smoke you out. And he's like, I'll enjoy that. I'll enjoy that. That's a good history teacher impression. I'm like, bro, you're smoking weed now, fool. I've seen your dusty Geostorm that you drive in.
Starting point is 00:24:14 It's a stoner car. You open the doors and clouds of smoke just come out. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. He's like, I don't know what those dancing teddy bear stickers are on my windshield. That's weird. I got it from the last guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I just like the number 420. I don't know. That's my lucky number. That skull with the lightning bolt in the middle. I was just like, oh, that's cool. I like sort of, you know, weather phenomenon. I think it's pretty rock and roll. If I knew what that was.
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Starting point is 00:29:19 Don't need them. Do we have that clip of him telling uh the media that they're the only reason he would need to wear a mask yeah so there was i mean just to give you sort of like on on talking points memo they were kind of like breaking down the the road to this point where he now has coronavirus i mean that's the reason we're talking about march 9th he was giving capital like he was giving tours of the capital with no mask after people saying like you have like it's possible you may have been exposed to the covid19 he's like fuck it i'm gonna do tours in the capitol building with groups of people
Starting point is 00:29:55 literally fuck it mask off yeah yeah april 7th gomert claims non-existent mist can kill virus for two weeks people like what are you talking about and he's like it's being used in germany like what are you talking about? And he's like, it's being used in Germany. They're like, what are you talking about? They're like, this is absolute garbage nonsense. Totally, totally. The mist. You know, the M. Night Shyamalan. Yeah, exactly. Accused the World Health Organization of cover-ups. You know, that's standard fare for the right.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Pushes to reopen because we're social animals. Like, we're animals, man. We just gotta get out there and sniff each other's butt. And then there was a meeting where the president had all um a ton of politicians like in his cabinet and media like in a room and everyone's like uh this isn't really socially distanced we've seen some of the things what's going on and louis gomert had to like cape for the president and he's like ah thank you so much for giving us tests this is him just sort of speaking on that that you saw to it that we had
Starting point is 00:30:45 tests and that nobody in here has the coronavirus unless it's somebody in the media so the only reason we would wear masks is if we were trying to protect ourselves from you in the media and we're not scared of you so so yeah try that one on asshole Yeah, so obviously he can't conceive of anybody wearing masks to protect other people, first of all. That's just completely funny. This means you're scared of others. Well, here's the problem is this guy is willfully denying the existence of the whole reason to wear masks, which is asymptomatic transmission. Right, yeah. And we don't have 100% accurate tests yet.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And again, that's the whole point. He's like, nobody in here has coronavirus, so why would we wear masks? And like, again, the whole point is one of you probably
Starting point is 00:31:34 has coronavirus. Chances are very high based especially on like how ignorant they are and willfully ignorant they are of science. You can get a coronavirus test and test negative
Starting point is 00:31:44 and actually still have coronavirus but it's a test yeah that's the thing and i had it thank you president trump and that's why i know i'm not afraid of the media that's why i will cough on everybody in this room and so his hope thank you gomer he was about to go on a nice little plane ride to texas with old el presidente on air force one and right before they're like hey sorry bro you can't come he's like why uh because you got covid bro um and now i don't know i don't know what he said in the aftermath so his explanation is that the mask wearing he's been wearing so many masks uh these past couple weeks that that's what gave him covid because when he's wearing the mask, uh, he touches his face so much that,
Starting point is 00:32:27 uh, he thinks that some of the Corona virus got some germs got in the mask. I think was his, I can't help, but wonder if that puts some germs in the mask. Oh, it was his explanation. So what he's telling us is he doesn't know how to wear a mask correctly.
Starting point is 00:32:44 That's why he got coronavirus. Right. Okay, yes. No, this is nice that it's a great example of proper mask wearing because a lot of people are doing this. And I bet they're getting germs inside their masks. And you know what else I'm getting inside my mask? Terrible coffee breath. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Not you in particular. Just all of us are dealing with our own coffee breath. I had some Zanku and cold brew and I had to put a mask on. I almost passed out in the store. People were like, what happened to this man? Did something happen to him? Like, it's my own breath.
Starting point is 00:33:13 They were like, uh-oh, he has COVID. They're like, no, no. I had Zanku and cold brew. They're like, get him out. Get him out now. Call an ambulance. Nancy Pelosi said she feels sorry for Gohmert, but also feels sorry for House members who are concerned
Starting point is 00:33:31 because he had been showing up at meetings without a mask and making a thing of it. I feel sorry for Nancy Pelosi because she's about to get primaried by Shahid Buttar. I think we should all be na-na-na-na-hey-hey. Yeah, well, she's had her time. She's had her time. The interesting thing about even the logic they apply,
Starting point is 00:33:48 where it's like science doesn't matter until you're trying to actually explain in some pseudoscientific way how you got coronavirus. Because before, you didn't give a fuck. But now you're like, but the only logic you have is to compare COVID to barbecue sauce. And you're like like i don't know maybe i got the corona up under my fingernails from not cleaning enough and then i got it in my
Starting point is 00:34:09 it's like come on dude yeah yeah you knew you just that's why i'm curious if that's how many people are just sort of like fuck it's kind of a risky thing but i gotta play this part of guy who like rejects science because i'm such a hollow politician like i just know my marching orders are and they're willing to go into it and then be like fuck all right i mean this is literally like what happens with um politicians who say they don't believe in climate change right they're just of course they believe in climate change because they can see it yeah but they're paid to say it's not real or you know more often that it's natural i'm curious what this split is with covid like how many fully people who are like actually i i actually believe the things i'm saying rather than like i'm running with the sort of rhetorical football right or i'm saying this
Starting point is 00:34:56 because i'm worried about you know the erosion of my personal liberties or whatever i mean they're all saying that but um the cool thing about infectious disease is it has no concept of the Constitution. Yeah, it knows no boundaries. But I mean, they do have some scientists on their side. There are the America's Frontline Doctors group that spoke in front of the Supreme Court. I think it was over the weekend. And yeah, if you were wondering why phrases like alien sex and demon sperm were trending, it's because the doctors who back up Gohmert and Trump's perspective on the coronavirus
Starting point is 00:35:37 have expounded on that as well. There's a doctor from texas uh who they they just you know she went out in front of the supreme court and was like hey like we have the cure they're just lying to you the cure is hydroxychloroquine and uh all good masks you don't have to wear masks masks are useless just take hydroxychloroquine uh they were like a doctor said that we're good they did not bother uh like the president retweeted it uh his son retweeted it uh they did not bother to look at some of the other things that doctor had spoken about such as uh oh boy you can that's my always my favorite game to play when you have some expert who's like
Starting point is 00:36:22 coming out for something that's totally, completely incorrect, and their past comments, I'm like, okay, it's either racist, anti-Semitic, or xenophobic, or Islamophobic. Yeah, it's kind of- Or homophobic, right? Or is she like a goop doctor? Yeah, I mean, it's- Sanjay Gupta.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Dr. Stella Emanuel has claimed that gynecological problems are caused. Oh, and also even male impotence are the result of people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches and spiritual husbands and spirit wives. That's tight. That's fucking cool. Yeah. Oh, wait. So then. OK, but what was some of the false information she was,
Starting point is 00:37:06 she also, she also claims that, uh, we're putting, uh, alien sperm in medicine to like try and affect people's DNA. Alien DNA is being used in certain medical treatments. Which ones I'd like to get on them. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Seriously. Yeah. That sounds wonderful. Um, isn't that, isn't that Grimes isn't that what grimes is doing right yeah i mean we're just talking about grimes right uh the next the next pandemic is people becoming becoming grimes there's grimes clones everywhere everyone's gonna
Starting point is 00:37:37 get everyone's gonna get like all shiny you know everyone's gonna start putting their hair up and like weird alien braids and stuff and uh you know gr Grimes-type sheaths to put your hair in, and robot hands. Is her new music good? What's her new music like? I don't fucking know, man. I don't listen to fucking Grimes. I just remember that first album, I was fucking with it.
Starting point is 00:37:56 I was like, okay, this is dope. And then I was like, what happened? Yeah, I don't know. The billboard says global warming is good, and I'm like, oh, so cheeky. So cheeky. All, so cheeky. All right, bitch. Throw your baby in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:38:10 This doctor also said that, so social media cracked down on the video, obviously. Like Breitbart shared it. Trump shared it. So it was viewed 8 million times before Facebook took it down. And she said that if they didn't put it back, Jesus Christ would destroy Facebook servers.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Oh, so Christ lives in Palo Alto? Yeah, exactly. So that didn't happen. And then the other doctors from America's Frontline Doctors group are of dubious uh their their credentials are dubious we're we're still looking into them but um yeah this yeah i mean bless them this is where they're at i mean and for her poor dr stella i mean normally uh white women could just call the police to try and make their threats real.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And now, since that doesn't work anymore, she has to summon the wrath of Jesus Christ himself. And look what happened. From what I'm seeing, the Facebook servers are intact. As of right now. But we don't know what the timeline is on
Starting point is 00:39:22 the threat. Right, right. Well, because God does work in mysterious ways. so. I'm gonna need pics of all the Facebook servers and also their exact GPS coordinates. It's for something else. Yeah, right. Exactly. Just latitudinal and longitudinal information. I don't need the address, just like coordinates
Starting point is 00:39:37 that you could feed into a drone or something, but it's not for that. As we speak, though, the old fuckerberg is getting grilled on the hill, so I'm sure we'll be able to talk about that in tomorrow's episode. I'm curious to know what that whole Bezos, suckerberg, cookbook, cookbook,
Starting point is 00:39:55 Tim Cook cookbook, whatever the fuck. All right, cookbook. You know what Jock in high school called him that? Burned, yeah. All right, cooked, yeah. Burned cookbook worm. Has anybody ever called Go-Mert pile of shit? I hope so. It was also a good sick burn that I came up with.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah, on that subject, I do feel like, yeah, the tech execs are getting grilled, and that's great. They're talking about breaking it up, yeah i i don't know i think it's worth keeping in mind like uh i think bloomberg posted an article talking about how bad it would be for every single one of those companies if trump loses the 2020 or yeah the 2020 election yeah um and like you know for a fact that that is what... They all want Trump to win. That's important to keep in mind because...
Starting point is 00:40:51 And that's why he will. Right. That's why Facebook is so dangerous and will continue to be so dangerous, as well as Instagram, Twitter, I'm sure. It's like the fucking oil and gas industry like what that was years ago where it's like uh you can't just let these people run amok and make all this fucking money like there's problems with this industry and they're not even being on it they
Starting point is 00:41:15 know how bad their shit is and they're not even telling everybody because they're making so much money and y'all are just gonna let them do that it's the same thing with the social media and like these tech companies where a lot so much money's being made and it's like yeah dude we know what the bad parts are but like have you seen these balance sheets like that's what the fucking end of the day it's all about and i'm yeah like we're already seeing the the sort of spillover of a completely unregulated you know tech sector and the problems that's bringing, especially like, yeah, to your point, Jack, about Facebook, they're just like shrugging.
Starting point is 00:41:48 And they're like, I mean, what is news really? What's the nature of like information, honestly? Like, cause a lie could be real to someone. So therefore is racism actually bad? I don't know. I'm Mark Zuckerberg. That's been my time. I have to leave in my transporter now.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Right. And it's not just, one thing that I think is really interesting is that backlash is not coming just from outside like from the government but also from within the companies like there was a walkout at google that was organized by a long time like a google lifer almost and this kind of stuff has been happening and i think the only reason any of the disinformation stuff really got addressed at facebook is because employees demanded it um so it's it's cool to see that you can't be a company that big
Starting point is 00:42:28 and be like, we're not evil and be so evil and not have your employees, who are mostly very smart people that you hired because they're fucking geniuses, be like, this seems stupid. Right. Yeah. Can't fool all the people all the time.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Was it Google or Amazon that had the Pentagon project that their employees were like? Well, they all had versions. I know like... Right. They were all bidding on like... I think Amazon lost a cloud computing contract because Trump hated the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Right. Was the one having to do that. And I think it was something with Microsoft. One of the other tech companies was working with like Ice or DH. I don't know. One of those just fucked up. It was Amazon working with Ice.
Starting point is 00:43:08 And like one thing about Amazon is that most of their money now comes from their cloud computing service. And they host servers for like Netflix, which is like almost like 20% of all of the fucking information going through the internet right now. It's like streaming video on Netflix. It's huge, huge, huge, huge amounts of information. What streaming means is not just convenience,
Starting point is 00:43:31 but like a huge technology infrastructure that we don't have that is being built. And that's what 5g is about. And that's what, uh, you know, there's no more fucking net neutrality. And that's what that's about.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Like, this is all by design. Yeah, including the fact that 5G gives you coronavirus, right? What? 5G gave Louie Gohmert coronavirus. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually 5 Gohmert. Did you?
Starting point is 00:43:58 5 Gohmert. Did you? I don't know if you've seen those commercials like Milana Vayntrub as an AT&T person and they're talking on a laptop with someone who's like i'm here to answer questions and someone's like should i be excited about 5g in my mind i'm always like turning it into a sketch where it goes like an off the rails conspiracy theory video and without fail every time i hear it i'm like do something about 5g and i'm like what i'm bored. I have nothing going on. Yeah. And before we go to a break, so it looks like Trump may have given up on Michigan.
Starting point is 00:44:30 We're not going to spend a whole lot of time on this. I mean, yeah, definitely like for now, Michigan is like, at least from an ad buying perspective, the ad dollars and the ad spend has basically come to a halt um they haven't bought the art of the deal yeah well i mean i think it's one of those things right because on one level like joe biden's like outspending him i think like three to one there and his lead is just building so it could just be sort of like all right look why throw all this money away where it could be a lost cause because realistically trump has more paths to the 270 electoral college votes he needs than uh joe biden does so because of that it's like yeah look
Starting point is 00:45:12 you're not spending in michigan although that was a that was like one of the states that was was like oh shit okay so you took that off of uh the democrats um but now i think when you look at just sort of the reduced support from like non-college educated white voters, that's that's going down. Suburban voters are like fleeing and specifically Michigan and now more like hopefully very motivated black voters to come out. It's just being like maybe not there. So while that's happening, I mean, he's definitely also states like ohio georgia and like possibly looking to flip nevada or minnesota uh but you know i think it's just kind of they're doing the thing where it's like oh yeah there's this guy isn't interested in like expanding a base and we don't just throw money away uh but there's plenty of allies and like you know they're still door knocking things like that but it's it's interesting to sort of watch
Starting point is 00:46:03 something that was pretty pretty uh good chunk of votes for him. So he'd have to do better in a different state if he loses Michigan. Yeah, or look to flip some other states. So that's sort of the chase that's on right now. He's very nervous when he looks like he's giving up. I think you guys are just looking at one side of the coin here. You're looking at what he's spending on attracting voters.
Starting point is 00:46:27 What you're not looking at is the money he's spending on voter suppression. Right, right, yeah. I bet you for every dollar he's not spending on ads, in a state like that where you're like, well, it looks like he's giving up, something's going on. Exactly. I think it's that voter suppression is being ramped the fuck up in those places. Yeah, any place that that's not happening.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Luckily, I mean, not luckily, he has plenty of people who are willing to do that on his behalf because I think for the overt corporatocracy class, oligarch class, they're like, yeah, man, we kind of got to keep this going for another four years to figure out what the real exit strategy is going to be here. for another four years to figure out what the real exit strategy is going to be here. So, yeah. All that to say, it's all swirling around and no one can ever be confident on either side. People have to at least do the bare minimum in this instance and vote and then deal with the rest of it after that. Well, you know, mail your vote in. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:21 But why? You know, the massive voter fraud, honestly. They are definitely going to dispute any mailed in votes for sure. I mean, that's going to be, that's going to be all votes. That's going to be all of 2021, by the way. Yeah. The mail-in ballot. It's just the legal battle over the mail-in ballots.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Just do like a prescient, like sort of a Halloween costume. Be a mail-in ballot now. Yeah. For next Halloween. It'll be the hanging chads of this next 12 months. The early aughts are back, honey, in a big way.
Starting point is 00:47:52 All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling.
Starting point is 00:48:20 It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture, we'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:49:00 or wherever you stream podcasts. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever. But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better.
Starting point is 00:49:29 With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in relationships with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of SwordQuest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
Starting point is 00:51:17 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
Starting point is 00:52:12 The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. And we're back and it's time for another segment of a cool thing i heard on this other podcast uh i was listening while i was off uh just studying for the daily zeitgeist that's where that's where i was just in your podcast dojo just Just in a dark room. It's just a closet where he listens to podcasts. Exactly. There's no karate going on. No, I was listening to 99% Invisible, and they had this episode that made me realize how possible it is to improve the way that public safety is conducted in America,
Starting point is 00:52:44 and just how realistic police abolition and defunding the police goals are. So it's not about the police overtly. It's about paramedics. And the fact that before 1970, when you had someone having a health emergency and you called for help, you didn't know who was going to show up but it wasn't paramedics it would either be uh the local
Starting point is 00:53:10 mortician just because they had a hearse which was capable of like transporting a body to the hospital or a human to the hospital or it'd be the fire department or it would be the police. So starting in 1970 or right before 1970, there was a neighborhood in Pittsburgh that was predominantly black called The Hills that basically got tired of the police not showing up when someone was having a heart attack. And so they created the... It was basically initially meant to be like a taxi service for people who needed to get to the hospital and now there's an idea right yeah exactly but then the pittsburgh medical community found out about this plan that they were running out of this place called freedom house in that neighborhood. And so
Starting point is 00:54:06 the Pittsburgh medical community, they hooked up with the dude who invented CPR and who believed that quick medical attention from a layperson was better than waiting until you got someone's dead body to the hospital, essentially. So he trained these, what were meant to be taxi drivers, these young black men from the neighborhood that had been abandoned to die by the police to do emergency medicine and use some see the percentage of deaths by major causes like accidents was in the sixties, mid sixties, high sixties. And after this,
Starting point is 00:54:55 like caught on by the late seventies, it was like in the low forties. So it was just like, they, a whole bunch of people were dying needlessly because they were just sending the police when somebody was having a heart attack. Yeah, and then they show up and they're like,
Starting point is 00:55:12 what are you, sick? What is this? They just didn't give a shit. They weren't the right people for it. They didn't care. They weren't called to save people's lives. And so, I mean, the point that Roman Mars, the host of the podcast, calls out is just like,
Starting point is 00:55:30 that is, like, think about how often police are showing up to a mental health crisis or a family fight or a bad drug trip or, like, so anything that could be solved by almost anyone other than, you know, an armed person who is statistically more likely to themselves be a domestic abuser than any other profession. 40% of police officers are in households where domestic abuse is a problem, and we give them less training than hairstylists. So I guess the hope would be that this era of policing version of reality that we all exist in right now and have existed in and taken for granted will seem antiquated by the time we die of old age or whatever. They'll have to tell their kids about the time when you...
Starting point is 00:56:24 Old age. Right. For podcast listeners, I'm doing air quotes. Yeah. You mean no money. Right. die of old age or whatever they'll have to tell their kids about the time when you age right when you podcast listeners i'm doing air quotes yeah you mean no money right but when like kids won't believe hopefully like that there could be a future where kids won't believe that when you had a problem you called 9-1-1 and a person with a violent person with a gun showed up like that uh is something that we just like take for granted and that's uh that shouldn't be the case any more than like the idea of paramedics should have had to have been invented in 1970 like it just seems like one of those obvious things that uh it just took obvious in retrospect right obvious in retrospect and immediately everybody
Starting point is 00:57:03 just took it for granted now it's everywhere yeah or you just use the language you're using right is how we would look at it retrospectively to your point is like yeah someone needed uh like a social worker and a violent guy with guns showed up right that's what it is it's like stop sending violent people to solve issues that don't require any what do we what do we need these people for exactly right because they can't even help you if your bike is stolen so where the fuck is that crime solving at but i think at really that point of all yeah we are not we are not actually deploying the correct people to those who are in need of assistance so and in general
Starting point is 00:57:42 we're just not here to help people when they are in need of assistance i So in general, we're just not here to help people when they are in need of assistance. I think it's like a larger cultural flaw that we have in this country. Yeah. I mean, there's been studies that show that 4.4% of dispatches when police are like dispatched to a location, 4.4% of those are calls about any sort of violence, assault, gunfire, robbery, uh, you know, anything that would require somebody who has training in how to deal with violence to, to be there.
Starting point is 00:58:11 That's 4%. We'll give, we'll give the cops one percentage point more. They can keep 5% of their staff. Right. And then we'll figure out what to do with that other 95%. There you go. I think it's pretty funny that this is one of those things that both police
Starting point is 00:58:25 and police unions and police abolitionists agree on right i shouldn't be the one assigned yeah i mean there are a lot of um cops you know particularly like you know chiefs of police in major cities and in a lot of their statements they'll say we deal with xyz all these crazy things and they're saying it like look look what, look what cops do. But, you know, when you see it, you're like, cops shouldn't have to do any of that stuff. And they say, like, we make these sacrifices. We attend to all these sorts of different things. And like, and those those are a lot of the interactions that don't go well, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:01 So, yeah, it's funny that like both police and people who would like the police to be abolished are like agree on the fact that police uh are asked to solve a lot of problems that they are not trained for right and don't know what to do i mean at that point i'd like i'd imagine if it was like okay you're right so then like let's do let's pilot something where we have people that are actually going to respond. And then when that pipe was over, it's like, wait, so what did y'all do this whole time? Right. Yeah. It's like even the people that think police abolition is like a crazy pipe dream are, you know, the response is always, well, you're sure going to want the police when you've been when your house has been broken into and your stuff stolen and you assaulted. Right. Right. And the implication there is you're going to want a violent guy with a gun to come to your house when all this stuff is happening to you so he can defend you.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And then mistake me actually for the perpetrator, even though I'm the victim. Yeah. Yeah. Or like go to the wrong house or something and like not have a lawyer there. Like just the idea that a cop should come to anybody's house without a lawyer present to witness the whole exchange is like a little a little yeah it just doesn't make sense it just doesn't make sense when you think about people's safety yeah the vision isn't like well what do you do without cops it's like no no what do you what does the world look like where less people
Starting point is 01:00:17 are desperate right right and it's like what if you only had to call the cops when you were assaulted because right now cops are called when your neighbor's being noisy right yeah yeah that's not the same level of urgency right no 100 but they will arrive with some urgency like okay so what they're running guns back here with this where this music coming from you're like this is why calling the cops is bad like for people who are like i would call the cops for an emergency this is why calling the cops is bad like for people who are like i would call the cops for an emergency this is why calling the cops as the police exist right now is so risky right it's because like it doesn't matter what you're calling them about it doesn't matter if you're like i see a homeless guy in the
Starting point is 01:00:55 street and i think he needs help right who do you call in that situation you know those are situations where people are like i guess i'll call the cops because i don't know who else to call right because you want to help and you hope that the cops will help. But the reality, as we see, is that cops are not fucking trained to deal with that situation. And they're going to deal with it by escalating it and making it violent because that's what they're trained for. And it should be there should be someone else that you immediately are like, oh, just like now when somebody is having a heart attack, you call a fucking paramedic. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Nobody's like, call the cops. No, you call somebody who knows what to do in that situation. Right. It's like, Oh, this person is in distress and needs help.
Starting point is 01:01:36 That's not the cops. That's this other number you call. You call 611. And then it's a medical emergency. You're like, I don't want you to like pick this guy up off the street and put him in jail or steal his shit. I want you to help him. Right.
Starting point is 01:01:48 You know? And cops are like, people are asking us to help in all these kinds of situations. And they're fucking right. Nobody should be asking cops to deal with every single problem that exists in a city of people. Yeah. Just give these badges to these social workers because those are the people who need to be. And you think about even in L.A. County county like how horribly understaffed we are if we even wanted to do something like that it was something like there's only there's like less than 20 people professionals
Starting point is 01:02:13 who are dealt with some kind of like crisis intervention sort of outreach in the county just like in the 70s they didn't have anybody to do this and so they trained people right that's how you get those people and so yeah we just got to like it's like okay so let's do the new thing rather than be like well how do we fix the shitty thing it's like no no see this is the part of the evolution where we realize that thing is that's a wrap
Starting point is 01:02:35 in that generation you know who was pissed when the paramedics first started doing a really good job at this the police there were rumors going around that the paramedics were actually dealing drugs out of the ambulances. Of course. And then a racist mayor came in
Starting point is 01:02:52 and fired all of the paramedics. And fortunately, it was such a monstrous success that that didn't totally work. And it also spread beyond Pittsburgh. But obviously, it wasn't just like a Disney movie where everybody succeeds. And people are like, you know, we can all work together. There was all sorts of institutional corruption and bullshit.
Starting point is 01:03:18 But that's... In the 70s? Talking shit about paramedics, how petty you are. That's what y'all sound like. Right. Everyone who needs to abolish the police, that's what you fucking sound like. Paramedics is also a dope name.
Starting point is 01:03:33 So whatever these positions are that we're going to invent to replace police, we have to come up with dope names that make them sound like they parachute into a fucking crisis. I think we should give them parachutes too. I think everyone should receive parachute training from the government free of charge. At the library, there should be like a field outside where you learn how to parachute.
Starting point is 01:03:54 That's the etymology of that is because of parachute. All right. And finally, we do want to tell you guys about a hero, a local hero. No, not really, but a guy who pulled off the PPP scam to just... We were saying mask off before in respect to Louie Gohmert, and this guy was a little bit mask off, a little too mask off when it came to the fuckery going down with his PPP loan. The PPP loans already has just been fuck fest 2020. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:32 Whether it's people who fucking don't deserve it. No, no, no. Miles, that makes it sound cool. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, fuck fest 2020. All right, let's- That sounds awesome. We'll put a pin in that one for now.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Fucker bullshit fest 2020. Anyway, you know know because usually it's like people who don't deserve it right people who don't deserve it or like actual small business owners being left in the cold saying like what the fuck was that you just hooked up a bunch of people who didn't need money um but that all you know with a program like that of course you're gonna find opportunistic fraudsters and david hines of miami was inspired by what he was seeing the people in the one percent doing he said yeah fuck it maybe i'll just lie too and act like i need money and i'll get i'll buy stuff i don't need so uh he basically
Starting point is 01:05:15 he's being charged uh with you know fraudulently obtaining 3.9 million dollars in ppp loans this is how apparently it was easy enough that this man just had to forge some documents and say that he was applying to like a bank on behalf of all these different companies. And first he was trying to get 13 and a half million and they were like, no, we can, sorry, sir,
Starting point is 01:05:38 we can only give you 3.9. This man immediately turned around and bought a 2020 Lamborghini Huran uh and then went on a shopping spree like at all these like luxury retailers in miami and then like they then they caught him seized all this shit but in my mind when i look at it i'm like see this is kind of like what's funny because even it's not just like a rich person thing it's just like how we are shown examples of how to make money it's sort of like yo man find like a little hustle and then like work that thing so it's just funny i'm like yeah so in this in
Starting point is 01:06:10 this way david hines was just really merely acting in the same way that people in these upper classes are yeah i mean how are how is any young person supposed to be held accountable for scamming when they look who the president is like look who succeeds in our country one that just the nature of how businesses operate and the people's relationship with their own labor to their employers like everyone it just feels like a fucking bum deal so when you have that you're like why the fuck am i nobody's gonna play by the rules anymore there are no fucking rules. Everybody's being mistreated. And even like in a way.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Sorry, you're like, you know, coronavirus. They act like, you know, like fortunately, they act like the Constitution doesn't exist or it's not a real thing. So are these politicians. So, you know, at every level, it's like, what what is sacred anymore? And it almost feels like most of the time people just have their own humanity and their own personal relationships to feel like okay i can do right in this situation out there can be very dark and not understanding and sympathetic but yeah uh but this is but these are the messages we see that from the top down so of course people are going to start doing their own shit and taking advantage of this it just there's i think just the next thing to keep an eye on are there's a lot of talk about some of the tax breaks and stuff that are going to be cut into the next potential relief, financial relief bill.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Hopefully, if the GOP can figure out if they're willing to help needy people, which seems to be the big holdup right now. uh but there's a lot of people on the even democrats who are supporting this thing that if you really look at it a lot of tax people are like dude you're you're finding a way to give like a hundred billion dollars away like if people do their taxes sneakily so yeah why the like at every even the people that you have voted in office you're like oh y'all are helping with that too so what do i right what are the rules anymore and it it's giving $100 billion away to people who don't need it, just people who are able to pay somebody enough to tell them about the loophole and the tax code or whatever. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Yeah, and by the way, I don't want to let David Hines, 29 of Miami, totally off the hook. He's very evidently a piece of shit and, uh, was, was cited last Thursday. Uh, he was got a $100 ticket for not wearing his mask. Uh, well, while tearing ass around,
Starting point is 01:08:32 uh, Miami and his Lambo. Yeah. Well, sorry, June, it has been a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:08:44 You can follow my comedy show high priestess at high priestess comedy on instagram you can go to my website hey sarah june.com i think i might start a newsletter i don't know i might get crazy but um the stuff stuff's all on there start a newsletter yeah fuck around and start a sub stack, baby. Everyone's doing it. I hate not performing, but I also hate performing over Zoom. So, you know, it sucks. I really hope everyone is doing okay in pandemic and that we can get a vaccine soon. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:24 There's a tweet by uh at ooh girls i don't know who this person is but i really enjoyed this tweet um every 18 seconds a person tests positive for covet 19 this is that man and then there's a picture of hire bolsonaro i've been thinking about it non-stop also before I log off the cast I just want to say during one of the breaks three of my
Starting point is 01:09:53 roosters were collected by a man who I thought was going to slaughter them but it turns out they're going to a very nice farm and they will have a lot of room that's what they tell you no he's going to a very nice farm and they will have a lot of room. It's like a lot of acres. I know, but no, he's gonna
Starting point is 01:10:07 send me pictures. He did taste their poop and rub it on his gums, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did. It was good shit. And yeah, I was upset because they were kind of scared and I just didn't want them to be scared
Starting point is 01:10:24 or suffer and he was like, oh no, we have all this acreage. And I was like, oh, that's so nice. Acreage is filled with discarded chicken corpses that they can piece their eyes into. The zeitgang. All this acreage and this delicious batter. One of the chickens was Julian. Somebody asked for a chicken to be named Julian,
Starting point is 01:10:44 and so it was. and that roaster is going to a very nice farm same with that one problem dog we had when I was 8 yes Miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram Miles of Grey
Starting point is 01:11:00 also my other podcast 420 Day Fiance where we just you know take a break talk about some reality TV, specifically 90 day fiance. A few tweets I like. First one is from at Emily Gorsenski. It says, hey, Portland protesters, you're all very, very brave. And there's something you need to do over the next weeks, months and years. Do cancer screenings and keep secure records.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah, I can only imagine what being out there for 60 days straight may happen and what kind of chemicals that they were in the presence of, but that is eerie and something, yeah. Also, another one from at Evan Jake Hessler says, the good thing is after the secret police takes one of your friends, you can go home, crack open a beer, and watch a totally normal baseball game with cardboard cutouts in the stands and fake crowd noise. And another one is from at soda mom 23 she says you're gonna send your kid to school with the paw patrol mask and he gonna come home with the spider-man mask because he made a
Starting point is 01:11:55 trade at lunch whole school gonna be shut down the next day uh yes that i can only imagine the mask trading economy between children man honestly whoever man. Honestly, whoever wrote that, put them in charge of public policy. Right. Exactly. They're like, yeah. That's foresight. That's the new Betsy DeVos is at SodaMom23. Thank you, SodaMom.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Thank you. We salute an American hero. A couple of tweets I've been enjoying. couple tweets i've been enjoying uh that that regis philbin uh uh who wants to be a millionaire clip where the guy wins the million dollars for the first time and is like i'd like to call my parents and then he's like i don't need your help i just i know the answer and i wanted to tell you that i'm about to win a million dollars then gives the answer uh alex edelman summed up my thoughts he said if the question was what is your own first name i still wouldn't have the balls to do this it's just like the most i don't know
Starting point is 01:12:53 confident thing anyone jack if it was something to do with jaws you would do that yeah but really the question is which of these u.. presidents appeared on the television series Laugh-In? Richard Nixon. Yeah, I know. But you know what? I bet they watched that episode of Laugh-In together. Because then I was like, wait, what's her face? Goldie Hawn was a comedian?
Starting point is 01:13:19 I had no idea until I knew what the fuck Laugh-In was. I was like, holy shit, bro. I'm an ignorant 12-year-old. Old TV's crazy. And then Chris Charpentier tweeted. I'll tell you this. Much between my mask, sunglasses, and
Starting point is 01:13:35 wireless headphones, I've never asked more of my ears. My ears are tired at the end of the day. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
Starting point is 01:13:53 where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we riding out on today? Oh, we were going out on the artist 79.5, which is really, it's singer-songwriter Kate Madison. But this whole album that she has out, I don't know how, I think it came out two years ago.
Starting point is 01:14:23 It's called Prediction. It just has this really great lo-fi like it just feels like a really solid small three to four piece band playing in the living room with just you know sort of these ideas that are going like across ages and genres and so this track is called sisters unarmed and it's just a dope track man it's gonna get your toe tapping put some honey in your hips and just enjoy that as we just got a few more few more hours till this weekend all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart
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