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Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 234, episode one of Dear Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.
This is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.
It's Monday, April 25th, 2022, which I don't even know what day it is today.
What is April 25th?
April 25th is actually National Telephone national telephone day hey we love the telephone
don't we folks love the telephone don't we folks that's what that sounded like you're talking to
a maga rally yeah the telephone don't be focused they're great yeah we love it and also uh east
meets west day i'm not sure if that's uh exactly that meets up for, but I think it has
something to do with World War II.
Um, okay.
I can't hear the phrase
East Meets West.
Like, the racist movies have ruined
it for me to the point that, like, I just
hear the gong immediately after that phrase.
Exactly. I'm like, uh,
what is that? Keyhouse of August
Moon? That one where, like, Marlon Brando's a Japanese guy.
Shit.
Yeah.
Which is, like, oddly enough, because my mom was Japanese.
She's like, I love him in that movie.
I'm like, mom, that's the racist shit ever.
I know.
It's so sexy.
And I'm like, wow.
Okay.
Everybody fucked up.
Well, my name is Jack O'Brien,
a.k.a. Jack O'Brien and Miles of Grey.
Record podcasts every day.
Ten a week, then their brains are numb.
On the weekends, they sleep for fun.
That is courtesy of Christy Amaguchi, man.
That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi, man.
Shout out to him for appreciating the work, the degree to which doing this show turns my brain into scrambled eggs.
But y'all can hear that daily. Yeah.
But you got two days to reform the eggs.
Mm-hmm.
Don't just re-scramble them on Monday.
I'm just going to a hyperbaric chamber, a.k.a. my closet.
Just put all my dirty clothes over me
and don't come out.
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,
by my co-host, Mr.
Miles Gray!
I said, take time
with the new Batman
unless you like to chill
for three hours.
Wow.
I started watching it at home. I didn't know it was three hours. Wow. I started watching it at home.
I didn't know it was three hours.
So I had to pause it
in the middle of it
and be like,
I'm going to come back to this.
Intermish.
You got to do a little intermish.
Yeah.
I've been doing that a lot.
When I watched Dune at home,
I had to take a second.
I was like,
hold on,
I need to eat something really quick.
So I cooked dinner
and then I finished Dune
having a day in between
Batman feelings.
But so far, pretty, pretty, pretty noir.
But I get the criticism so far.
People are like, it was noir, but it could have been darker.
And I can see that just from the first half.
Yeah, noir.
Noir.
I have not watched yet.
I did finally watch Everything Everywhere All at Once in a packed house at 8.30 on a Thursday, I guess.
So, yeah, that movie.
And I really enjoyed it.
I'm so glad I saw it.
I wish I had seen it sooner.
I literally heard people walking out of the theater
like it was one of those ads for a broadway musical
where they like have the people being like that was great the greatest movie i've ever seen like
i literally heard a girl go that i think that's my favorite movie ever of all time like just
walking out i was like okay that's what it'll do my mom she she actually did on earth this picture of me and jonathan kikwan
wow he is so fucking good in that movie really i'll blur it but i again that was what what a
movie anyway yeah yeah yeah well miles we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a
brilliant stand-up comedian writer and actor who you can find in the 2021 book we had a little
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She's been featured on Comedy Central, Team Coco,
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It is Jackie Kalia.
Jackie!
What's up?
Hello, hello.
Hello.
I'm so excited to be here with the two of you.
We're excited to have you.
I saw your face light up when you mentioned everything everywhere.
I loved that movie. I saw it last weekend and it was so good.
And I think it, okay, well, first off, it was like my first movie in a long ass time.
Like being in a theater with people, like there were people like chewing popcorn loudly behind me.
And I was like, is this safe?
Yeah, no, I went in being like,
alright, this can be worth the COVID.
I wasn't wrong.
Yeah, it was good.
I thought you meant I wasn't wrong
because I got COVID.
I got COVID, everyone. Hey!
Hey!
It's also a great experience to see
a movie like that in a crowd.
I'm glad I didn't save it for streaming.
Oh, no, you had to see that in the theater for sure.
Like there were moments.
I mean, I loved it.
It was amazing.
I cried.
I laughed.
Me too.
I was like, I forgot that movies can invoke these emotions in you.
Because I think the last movie I saw in theater was like, I don't know, something Marvel.
And so I was just excited to see it and i love like i've already decided that wayman i'm dressing up as him for halloween i can't i can't wait for the fanny pack
i'm gonna go search the internet to find that exact little keychain but yeah i just oh i just
loved it and i i want to see it again i actually think i might go back to the theater to watch it again just to see more details and just uh yeah such a fun movie i'm glad the fanny pack really made
me feel seen yeah oh yeah as a dad with the fanny pack you can fuck shit up with that
see it's cool guys immediately put some rocks in there it's a weapon man yeah but but yeah i think
the magic of it is
like i found myself getting overcome with emotion at things that aren't traditionally like on screen
you're like you got emotional when the in the raccoonie part like and i'm like yeah and i'm
not gonna spoil shit because it's like i said you could never really describe this film out loud
that ruined it for me because it's doing so many things at once. But I really like
that one part
where he was chasing
after Raku Kuni.
I was like...
Oh, no.
Absolutely.
Right.
Jackie, where are you
coming to us from?
I'm here from
Oakland, California.
What's up?
Shout out to the
Bay Area.
I'm an East Bay girl,
so I'm from Hayward,
but live in Oakland.
Okay. And it's great out here. We finally have decent weather. We've been having rain lately, but I'm just
excited that people are getting out and doing stuff and we're out here doing it.
Catch a slideshow.
Spring season, Aries season. Catch a slideshow.
Yes, exactly.
Wait, I don't know what that means. I mean, I do, but the listener might not know what that means.
So why don't you explain it to them?
Jack, we're going to slam your car.
Make sure that shit is scraper.
Okay?
And we're hitting the bay and taking you.
A slideshow is when people do donuts and stuff in the intersection.
Miles, I must correct.
It is a side show.
Side show.
Yes.
Side. So no L. Side show. Yes. Side.
So no L.
Side, not slide.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
You're good, you're good.
I'm messing up my internet brain where I'm looking at pictures like start slide show
and everything's a slide show.
But yeah, got to get it in.
Got to see an intersection shut down for a few minutes while somebody in a Challenger
is just sending smoke in there.
Oh, yeah.
They do it on the freeway.
We had a there was a sideshow on the 880 and it's hilarious because you can see you see
the donuts.
You see them.
So, you know, anything is fair game.
Intersections, freeways, bridges, you know.
Yeah, absolutely.
As long as you can hit it, you know, and you can get out, get the rotation of the tires,
you're good to go.
So, yes, that's Bay culture though.
For sure.
A sideshow is like, yeah, everybody wants to see it.
They record them now.
They get caught up now because they tag themselves in it.
It's so silly.
I'm just like, before you would just witness it and be like, yo, the sideshow.
And now it's like, oh, I got tagged with the cops got back at me.
And it's like, what do you expect?
I'm sorry. That was your license plate plate homie like black it out at least you know other people will
be taking video there's etiquette there's ways to carry oneself so i didn't know that was a regional
thing that said like i've seen lots of videos of of that happening like, is that, are there like regional, super dangerous things to do with your car?
Like that, Oakland kind of owns that one.
And then like another part of the world owns.
Like Philly with dirt bikes and shit.
Right, right.
And the ghost riding.
Was it that?
I feel like that was.
That's Bay Area.
That's Bay Area.
Ghost riding is Bay Area.
So Bay Area just owns like all the just wild shit you could possibly do
in a car right i feel like i mean you know tell me when to go gave people a decent imagination for
you know doors open maine yes like many other you know uh dangerous things you can do in a car but
fun gas break dip exactly all of it there's instructions every song is a manual you know
what i mean like you got to list
it in and it's the cheat codes for how to accomplish it you want to get up to some stuff
there's there's there's a whole map right there so yeah but i don't go ahead oh sorry no no i was
i didn't know about philly and dirt bikes i this is new to me what is what's going on
but you know it's like there's a lot of laws where there are a lot of black people who
like to you know get pop wheelies on their dirt bikes and things's like there's a lot of laws where there are a lot of black people who like to, you know, get pop wheelies on their dirt bikes and things like that.
You see a lot of laws coming in like there's no wheelies or dirt bikes or whatever.
And, you know, every I feel like every every there is always going to be some regional thing where people are expressing themselves with motor vehicles.
I just feel like that's just that's just how the American way is, that's you know you see people rolling coal or
fucking you know hitting endos on a dirt bike there's just america and engines and showing out
is just the way of the country i believe america yes yeah america all right jackie we are going to
get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a few of
the things we're talking about some bad news for kevin mccarthy and uh his mega
cred we're gonna listen to tape of him saying the president needs to the the former president
donald trump needs to needs to get taken out of office we are going to talk about a cdc doctor
has issued a list of suggestions for how not to catch COVID on a flight where masks are now
optional. So we're going to talk about some of those pointers. We are going to talk about Florida
wanting to repeal Disney World's self-governance and just no good side in that one. But we're
going to talk about the history of their self-governance. All of that, plenty more.
But before we do any of it, Jackie, we do like to talk about the history of their self-governance, all of that, plenty more.
But before we do any of it, Jackie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?
It's usually really embarrassing.
That's why we ask it.
My search history is how to spell certain words.
It's literally just needing to clarify.
There's certain words that just trip me up.
And it's silly because it's things like it's a switch between the I and the E or something.
So my search history is just riddled with like, how do you spell weird?
You're like stupid.
I know how to spell it, but I just want to double check if I'm sending off this email to 250 people.
You know what I mean?
Like there's just there's stress involved with some
of the emails that I send out because I'm like promoting shows or I'm doing stuff for my day job.
And I just want to clarify. So most of my search history is just Miriam Webster's fucking
dictionary and like finding my way to that page to figure out how to spell it or even how to
pronounce certain words. I, it turns out I'm public school educated. A number of words in
my vocabulary have been mispronounced and, uh, that's embarrassing. Yeah. It turns out I'm public school educated. A number of words in my vocabulary have been mispronounced.
And that's
embarrassing. Yeah, it is with a good mispronunciation.
Okay. All right.
Because I have a few, too, that people
checked me on.
Mr. Slideshow up here.
Yeah, Mr. Slideshow.
I was like, we're going to sit down and watch a slideshow?
Before when I was saying old, that I was feeling old.
But anyway, that's all pre-show stuff.
Go on.
Pre-show stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so there was a hot second, maybe a number of years in my life, when I pronounced gratuity.
Gratituity.
Yes.
It's terrible.
Influenced by ratatouille or not?
Exactly.
They had to have been. I don't know. Ratatouille is not exactly they had to have been i don't know i just
i was better i was at dinner you were right we were we were at dinner i was splitting the bill
and i said oh yeah so what should we put down for gratuity and my friend said what the fuck
and so to this day to this day they're they're like, what's up, Gratitude? And I'm like, oh.
I like Gratitude better.
Yeah.
It gives you a little extra dance to do with your tongue in the middle there.
Gratitude.
There's flair.
There's flair.
It's exciting.
You feel like you get a little bit of a show plus the tip.
You know what I mean?
It's the yada domain of.
It's the yada.
Gratitude.
I love how you did your research. You did your research in advance i mean i'm from
southern california so enough enough gets down to us from you know yes he needs to research his
enemy you know only love for the bay this is so funny it's true miles said only love for the bay
whereas bay folks are raised to hate the southern california especially la area it was your water
yeah that's true it's historical look the hedge hedgy thing let's move past that okay please you
guys took the raiders for a minute it was just you know there's just like a lot of stuff there's a lot
of there's a lot of beef but it's apparently one-sided and it's just bay folks that are like
you know yeah but even then like whenever i'm in the Bay, I get so much love.
I'm like, it's always,
it's, you know,
it's like we're cousins,
you know?
Yes.
And once the little ribbing is over,
then we've come back together
as being California people.
Exactly.
As long as you're not wearing
a Giants hat at Dodger State.
Or vice versa.
Yeah, you don't want,
don't play with Giants.
Yeah, certain sports teams,
you just, you don't want to,
yeah, don't do it.
That's not a good idea.
And even out here, there's certain sports teams you can't wear to certain, you know what I mean?
It's a thing.
People are very in love with their teams.
Yeah.
Yeah, between like gangs or actual sports fans, like you're like, I can't wear this Astros hat.
You're like, no, you cannot.
No, sir.
Not with that H on it, sir.
No.
Not in this party.
No.
Yeah, so you got to be thoughtful about how you carry yourself.
Yeah.
How are you guys pronouncing the word B-I-O-P-I-C these days?
Because I have noticed, I thought this was settled pronunciation.
And I've noticed that it's actually more common to say it biopic.
That's what I hear. I hear biopic when I to say it biopic that's what i hear i hear biopic when i yeah biopic which
is what i said like when i first pronounced it out out loud and then i was told like come on man
it's by it's about by it's a bio and a pic like it's biopic and now more and more i'm hearing
biopic and i feel like this is trending in a direction of the internet just being like, yeah, this is just how we say it.
Shut the fuck up.
Oh, so we're like we're watching GIF turn to JIF?
Yeah.
Like that, like where someone's putting out pronunciation wars?
I think JIF was the original intention of the guy who made it.
And everyone was like, no, no, thank you.
It's GIF.
I switch in and out of whatever i feel like jif and gif are just gonna stay no one's gonna agree on what it should be
it'll be a generational thing someone's gonna go back in my day you know what i mean but i say i
say biopic i think biopic sounds silly biopic i say biopic biopic sounds weird but i think there's more of an argument to say biopic
because you wouldn't say you don't say biography you say biography wow that's that's a great
argument and i feel like biopic sounds like a dental procedure to me like biopic there's like
yeah there's yeah yeah sounds like medical quality yeah something
like that oh yeah and i think if i read myopic the word i would i would pronounce it meopic
i don't know there's certain words that i pronounce weird um at first when you said
what how do you say this i thought you were saying by poc like that's what i thought too
and i was like it's actually yeah hey so uh here's a quick question for you. Yeah. How are you saying this right now?
I'm a black indigenous and people of color.
Yes, exactly.
And that's another thing too.
People say BIPOC to pronounce that, but I've heard people, yeah.
How do you pronounce it?
I've said BIPOC.
Like I've spelled it out.
Oh, okay.
So I've heard it say, it's like BIPOC business owners, BIPOC artists.
I think at that point we get what we know we're saying.
So I'm not going to split hairs being like.
What is that? That Tupac was experimenting with his love.
Like, I don't know what that is.
But yeah, I mean, I feel like it's there's there are certain things to like just in the pandemic.
We haven't been around people to say these words out loud like we read them a lot in the last couple of years.
And so now I feel like we're coming back.
OK, how are you saying this?
How are we saying this?
Can I check in with everyone?
Yeah, exactly.
What's something you think is overrated?
Oh, clubs.
I think clubs are way overrated.
And I don't know if that's my age speaking, but I went to a club this past weekend and it was annoying to me.
I was so excited for this party.
It was this awesome party in downtown Oakland.
And like, you know what it was?
Everything was an upsell.
So if you wanted to sit down, oh, you got to you got to buy you got to buy that section.
Right.
OK, well, what about these tables?
Oh, that's for if you upgrade to like the hookah experience you can get that it was just like so monetized and i was like damn like you really and
then yeah unless you had a section there was no like dedicated dance floor and i was like you
know what all of this overrated i could have been drinking at home dancing my happy ass off at home
you know a full bunch of furniture to sit on no problem you know what i mean places to
like to sit down for a second after you've been dancing the whole night i don't know i was and
they were like there were those bottle girls coming out with the sparklers yes and i was like
this is such this is such a scam like that's all it was like i just i don't know if it's like i'm
looking at it with new eyes or whatever but i I'm just like scam. You know, like there's no reason why this bottle of Don Julio needs to be $300.
No fucking reason.
I can go across the street right now.
Right.
He's going to hook me up for maybe $45.
Exactly.
Even then he's already marked it up.
So he's winning.
And everybody wins.
Everyone wins.
Except for me here.
Also, I got to say, sparklers, not that expensive.
Except for me here.
Also, I got to say, sparklers, not that expensive.
More should be done.
Like, more restaurants should just be sticking sparklers in their drinks.
Absolutely. It adds a lot of fun.
And we don't need to pay $350 for it.
Oh, here comes the sizzling fajita platter.
Like, that feels good.
Because that shit's already, like, the early sparkler was if you got the fajita, the sizzling.
Well, fajita platter with, like, a marg with that shit in it oh yeah you're like oh yeah
balling right now the visual it is the visual equivalent of the sizzling fajita platter and
i feel like it's only been it hasn't like this the potential has barely been touched yeah overrated
it's exactly because you're saying like i get that one like
you said with age it does change when i was 21 i would have been like damn i want to sit up over
there that's right oh that's just popping now that i have like bills and shit and like thinking
about my future i'm like how the fuck do i spend 10 times what this thing costs to sit down on a dusty fucking pleather couch?
No. Fuck that.
You'd rather be on a cruise, right?
Love that look. Don't drag my old black man, inner black man out.
I love a fucking cruise. I know they're terrible and I haven't been on one since 2016,
but I'd be lying if I said something didn't come over me on a cruise ship.
But all that to say, when it comes to comes to clubs yes it is super fucking overrated and i recently i went to a house party that shit is
still number fucking one i don't care anybody says going pulling up to a house or you hear the music
blowing out through the fucking front door and you open it and you get hit with smoke and bad breath and everything and like spilled beer you're like yes here and i was there with a bunch of
people like in their mid-30s and up and we were like this is fuck this shit this is free there's
no cover oh shit yeah they're like free alcohol because other people brought it and we're just
bringing it all together and saying hey look we look, we're coming together to celebrate.
I think that's actually a better feeling.
That feels more like communal.
Yes.
You get to see someone's house.
There's something fun about that, too.
I mean, I don't drink anymore.
I don't know if you could tell, but I'm like, you get to see their family pictures.
It's wonderful.
Great sink basin you bought.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Pull some ideas. a little interior decorating
inspiration that's what i'm there for i love a house party you get to like meet the people
they're friends you get to have crazy long conversations with people about astrology
and fucking i don't know your dreams and your hopes and shit like right and then of course
you can get fucked up you can smoke you could do whatever you want you can you cannot you can be sober if you want fiddle with a guitar you know what i mean there's
so many things you could do right i i i'm with you miles on that one i would i would have rather
been doing that nothing worse than being sober at a fucking club that's fucking torture like how the
fuck could you stand to be in there because you have to be fucked up to think any of that shit's cool. I've not done that once in the six years since I stopped drinking.
Not a single trip to a club.
Could not interest me less.
Somehow, look, if there's something with iHeart,
we end up having to be in Vegas for something,
we're going to go in with a mic, you and me, stone cold sober,
and just observe people the whole time.
Look at this.
Look at this. Look at this. It would be hilarious. The shit people do. You and me stone cold sober and just observe people the whole time.
It would be hilarious.
The shit people do.
The shit people do.
You know, it's it's it's it would be so funny to watch it with sober eyes.
Yeah, it can be embarrassing, man.
Oh, yeah.
Awesome.
What was something you think is underrated?
OK, so I was going to say sleep, but that's so whack because it's like I'm out here being like clubs suck and sleep is the best. I can't be doing that. No, no, no. I think the things that I find underrated is I love me sad and it's just a good show and it's it's like literally oh my gosh um alan tudyk are you guys familiar with him oh yeah
k2so from yeah i mean he's like a great character actor yeah he's a fucking beast he's an amazing
character actor and this is his this role was meant for him he literally is playing
And this is his this this role was meant for him.
He literally is playing like an alien inside of a human's body.
And he plays such the weirdest character.
And it's just a delight every time he comes on screen and processes the world around him.
And it's anyway, it's a great show.
And I'm like, this is totally like people are not talking enough about how cool this fucking show is.
And it's silly and it's feel good.
And I don't know if that's like the the two years of pandemic we've been going through it's what i've needed but yeah there's some
beautiful moments in the show and yeah no one is talking about it and i'm like please please
somebody watch it so i can talk with you about it wow i'm just reading the premise so he's so
an alien sent to wipe out humanity kills and takes on the identity of a vacationing pathology physician and then is asked to do an autopsy on the town's doctor who's died of unknown circumstances and then like becomes like murder.
She wrote alien murder.
She wrote kind of.
Kind of.
Yeah.
And it's.
There's also like a native storyline on top of it.
So they're in this place called Patience, Colorado.
That's where the scene is set.
And then they're nearing a community, a native community.
So it's really cool because they have native writers and native actors on the show.
And it's just exciting to like see native representation, but not in a shitty Yellowstone Western type of cowboy movie.
It's just like a cool show where it's like, oh, they're just native and that's know what i mean like it's just which in itself sadly is revolutionary so it's it's just a
breath of fresh air and it's a really sweet story and like i said alan tudyk he does hallucinogens
in one of the episodes chef's kiss so fucking funny okay i was just to see an alien like yo
so he's not like a tiny alien piloting a body he's just like a alien who
has taken on a human form yeah exactly he has special dna stuff that allows him to just take
on the form quickly so yeah i don't know that's that's the that's that's how they explain it in
a main way but it's a great show and i would love more people to watch it and so that's totally
underrated you guys got to watch it it's fucking funny that sounds great underrated uh like character to play it seems like is
alien inhabiting human body like vincent d'onofrio in men in black is oh yeah i think in retrospect
one of the great performances uh of our time truly sugar so good water like i not better he killed i love those types of i love watching
those kind of characters they're so funny to me but yeah he killed it at that at that movie and
to this day my family still quotes those sugar what all that shit like there's so many quotes
from his character in there that yeah amazing i love. I love it. Yeah. And then that's also, like, sort of the premise of every Tilda Swinton character
is that she is an alien, like, kind of inhabiting a human body
or just, like, dropped in here.
So there's a whole career based on that.
And it's hanging off your bones.
She was also great, whoever that was, the wife.
Yeah, yeah yeah yeah who's like who was like the you know
preeminent like redheaded actress performer who was like doing so many character parts i know i
forget her name i'm so bad but yeah i i just i can't have captain can't keep talking about
vincent donafrio though because his physical comedy too there's like that one scene where
he's like walking down the street he's so rickety and. There's like that one scene where he's like walking down the street. He's so rickety
and shit. He's like
killing him.
Killing his instant denopter.
One moment, guy.
This shit kills
me to this day.
It's some of the best physical comedy
and he's just walking down the street.
It's beautiful.
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back and so kevin you you connected a dot for me miles because like the trump administration was such a blur that i had not associated kevin mccarthy of late with kevin mccarthy the guy who
delivered trump red and pink starbursts because he heard those were his favorite in the early days
so that's just like from packs yeah so that's like a good arc that i didn't i
didn't realize his comedic character had on this episode of the office so there we've seen the
bromance right like you're saying it started off he comes to power kevin mccarthy's trying to get
next to him nuzzle up he says here's your candies we go from there to trump calling him my kevin okay like some
kind of pillow or something and they were just a match made in hell from the beginning and mccarthy
has regularly used his position as like speaker and minority leader to defend trump to fucking
normalize all the bullshit but it seemed like january 6th for a few republicans right right
after january 6th you saw a few Republicans
speak like they were like earthbound, like sentient beings who were like, that was bad.
We could never have McCarthy was talking spicy about it. And we saw that for a second. We're
like, Oh, maybe, but then we're like, no, these people are cowards. So back then, you know,
we heard even reports of Kevin McCarthy was saying, reportedly saying things like, you know, we heard even reports of Kevin McCarthy was saying reportedly saying things like, you know, he's Trump should resign or he's going to he's going to try and get Trump to resign or like these other people in the caucus need to shut up with like their big lie stuff.
with Liz Cheney, who is like public enemy number one in the Republican Party because she's like,
Trump is an abomination and we absolutely have to purge him from politics. Like that's just,
there's no, there's nothing to do here. So they were saying that they have this reporting that him and Liz Cheney were talking very seriously on how to like to get, figure out an off ramp for
Trump and the party at large. And the article alleged that McCarthy was describing Trump's actions as atrocious and that he was trying to figure out how to use the 25th amendment
to stop him. His office though, then comes out and forcefully denies it all. They're like,
this is fake news. It's a total fabrication. We don't even know why they would even say
something like that. Kevin McCarthy loves Donald Trump and even got him starburst. Can we move on?
But what's sad is it's like, they didn't even read the fucking New York Times article where, you know, because what they're doing is they're quoting authors of an upcoming book about the about January 6th.
We're in the article.
This says this is according to taped conversations that the New York Times reviewed.
Well, so this wasn't fucking they weren't fucking around and being like, yeah, I mean, we know this happened.
This is on fucking wax.
So even though they said that denial came out, even though the article said they had it on wax,
then that fucking night, the authors of this book go on Rachel Maddow, drop the fucking tape.
So here, for your listening displeasure, here's someone almost doing the right thing as it relates to our fragile system
yeah i'm here thanks kevin um i guess the question when when we were talking about the
25th amendment resolution um yeah and you asked if you know what happens if it gets there after
he's gone is is there any chance are you hearing that he might resign is there any chance, are you hearing, that he might resign? Is there any reason to think that might happen?
I've had a few discussions.
My gut tells me no.
I'm seriously thinking of having that conversation with him tonight.
I haven't talked to him in a couple days.
From what I know of him,
I mean, you guys all know him too.
Do you think he'd ever back away?
What I think I'm going to do
is I'm going to call him.
This is what I did.
Nobody will pass the house.
I think there's a chance
he'll pass the Senate even when he's gone.
And house. I think there's a chance he'll pass the Senate even when he's gone. And
I think there's a lot of different ramifications for that.
Now, I haven't had
a discussion with him
that if he did resign, would
it not happen? Now, this
is one personal fear I have.
I do not want to
get into any conversation about
Pence parting. The only discussion I would have with him is that I do not want to get into any conversation about Pence partying again.
I mean, the only discussion I would have with him is that I think this will pass.
And it would be my recommendation we should resign.
Okay.
Wow.
That's, you know, you hear that they were scheming.
They were like, you know, how the fuck are we going to get this?
So clearly they were talking about the 25th Amendment and how to evoke that to try and oust him.
But it's clear. And there was a moment where they were seriously trying to figure out what the options are.
Now, this could get pretty ugly for McCarthy because as of this recording, we still haven't heard what Trump's response is.
But I can't imagine it would be anything positive considering how he take, how he responds to any perceived betrayal.
He still thinks that everybody's going to just drop out of the race and
nobody's going to run against him.
If he decides to run like that,
that's what he's like.
Well,
I gave them,
I gave them everything.
They wouldn't be shit without me.
Right.
And they're like,
do you know who you're talking to?
Other greedy motherfuckers who don't give a fuck about anything.
You think you'll give them something and they're going to be like,
you know what? I'm going to honor that because I'm an honorable fucking person so it's clear right that there is a group of republicans that see trump as a threat whether
that's to democracy or their own pursuit of power that's a whole other issue but to hear the double
speak like of these calls where they're legitimately being like how do we solve this do you think he'll
resign this is this is not good.
Shows like at the very least the amount of fear that they operate in and are probably wanting to free themselves of.
And there's only a few people who are willing to say, I'm off this and then actually say, no, I'm going to stand out here and say, I don't fucking like this.
They've been all just, you know, destroyed politically.
But we should see.
all just you know destroyed politically but we should see the thing that i'm also pissed about is that we're this is another fucking book that's dropping revelations that would have been so much
more effective in real fucking time rather than be like wait till i write a book about this and
i'll wait a fucking year and a half almost right right in between right at the point that it could
least impact
him because we're far away from the presidential election that he's probably the favorite to win
and we're far away from the actual events good job imagine that tape coming out when they're
when the impeachment trial is happening and you have these republicans being like i don't think
anything's wrong they're like oh really you're on a call with liz cheney talking about how do we do this right that would have made it so hot for it
would have only put the party in a more disarray and they would have probably had to i don't know
figure out who was going to win but they backed off and we're here i will say it didn't like it
did feel a little bit like he was just saying like that tactical shit and there wasn't like a lot of
judgment there like i could see him getting getting out of this just by like that tactical shit and there wasn't like a lot of judgment there like i could
see him getting getting out of this just by like scraping through him being like like granted trump
is not going to be happy to hear that he was ever recommending that he resigned but it feels
less bad than i was hoping it would feel like for, for McCarthy and Trump.
This is the thing that the people,
these fucking authors are like,
this is only the beginning of the stuff we have on tape.
Okay.
And so they also,
there there's allusions to the fact that he was potentially trying to like,
make sure that like people like Lauren Boebert, we're going to get like,
just completely erased from Twitter for the stuff they were saying.
He seems to have been saying that pretty forcefully on tape.
McCarthy was.
Yeah.
I think at the end of the day, it is hard to know what really this would do this far removed.
Right.
done in real time when you have Trump who's already like on the way out and then having to further like think of like, oh, everyone's against me, what that may have catalyzed. But either way,
it's clear that all of all of the Republicans live in the fear of a Trump, you know, soundbite
that would essentially just alter the path of their political career. And these these authors
are New York Times reporters or just who do they work for
i just want to know who did subtract five democracy points from but yeah the authors
are alex alex burns and jonathan martin so yeah i believe they are you know they're from the new
york time cool good job good job fellas sitting on that one yeah nailed it yeah
but i again this is just i like you said trump thinks everyone is going to make way but when
you look at all these things out there there's a lot more open or shit leaking about people trying
to figure out how to just get rid of this dude so they can have their own career now.
Like that's definitely nobody.
Even the people who are the most maggot out.
There are plenty who are like, man, get this old motherfucker out the way so I can start running this shit.
That's still very much happening.
But how that's going to play out.
I mean, we're still months away from seeing how those pieces end up.
All right.
Let's check in real quick with the CDC.
You know, they got overruled by a single judge in Florida. And that was apparently that was it. That's all she wrote
for masks on planes. And so what one of the CDC doctors did an interview with L.A. Times where
they just like gave some recommendations on like. So let's say, all right, crazy hypothetical, but let's say you have to travel and you want to protect yourself against the most contagious variant of COVID to date that is still deadly to the immunocompromised and elderly.
Like for some reason, you're weird or some shit.
Maskaholics.
Right.
Then there are some things you can do.
So the CDC doctor says you can get another booster if it's been four months since your last shot, which it's been four months since my last shot. And I didn't even realize I was eligible. So that's on my on my to do list.
of them called evu shelled which i had never heard of but it's a form of passive defense that can help protect you which again i don't think i know about it's like a medication a prescription
medication and that's something that they're this doctor was identifying as being helpful
for helpful to take if you're about to go on like somewhere where you might get exposed
so it's in somewhat limited supply. You got to know someone.
You got to know somebody with health insurance.
Right.
So you consult your doctor on that one.
Wear a well-fitting mask,
which I think we all knew,
except for like 90% of the population, apparently.
All right.
But these were the two interesting ones
because I feel like they relate to...
Like my main question is,
okay, if masks don't
work, why the fuck am I not sick after every flight since I started wearing masks and was sick
like, you know, 40 percent of the time after I traveled when I wasn't wearing masks like in the
pre-pandemic times. So this doctor says beware of layovers and transitions. The in-flight air filter system is actually really good when you're cruising over 10,000 feet.
The place we get sick is boarding, deplaning, and in the airport.
Because you're just around a shitload of people almost exclusively indoors.
And that air is stagnant.
So that's just like, that's when you want to be like really
on your shit because you don't want to be yet in a crowd of people just being like
yeah very good to share the air and then drink with a straw because you can you know not take
your mask off if you do that uh get a window seat because it keeps you away from other people unless you're
mike tyson and they decide to you know hassle you and then sit towards the front and eat in the
airport and not on the plane and eat at a uh empty gate so those are those are the little pointers i
found that i found that helpful like yeah yeah so i mean i'm already
a window seat person i didn't know about like the front of the plane being better i didn't know
about that part let's just get out quicker yeah that's it right so get off quicker get on later
if you can't regress yeah yeah sure damn four months. And the booster now, because barely anybody's getting vaccinated.
They're like, hey, man, if you need one, come.
Right.
Please, please, please, please, please.
And Evusheld.
See?
See?
Thank you, doctor, for letting people.
See, these are like pointers that the rich people get.
Right, right, right.
The Evusheld thing, that just fucked me up.
I said, what? There's a fucking thing that the doctor can give you right have you shelled thing that just fucked me up i said what
there's a fucking thing that you the doctor can give you i don't know there's also that medication
that like reduces your chance like once you have it the reduced your chance of like getting
like seriously ill by like 90 and we were like oh well that shit's good then i'm like
haven't heard much about it since then.
Yeah, apparently that's also difficult to get to.
Yeah, yeah.
But it's like, yo, like, a lot of shit is difficult, you know?
Building an army from scratch at the beginning of World War II was difficult, but they did that shit.
And, you know, let's give this a shot.
We have the ability to cut people's chances of dying and going to the hospital by 90%.
Right.
I guess we need to trick the military industrial complex into thinking that COVID is untapped land that has a lot of resources on it.
And then they will get their shit together and figure out, like, oh, we fucking COVID up then.
But, yeah.
Have you traveled recently, Jackie? I have not. shit together and figure out like oh we fucking comb it up then but yeah of course yeah have you
traveled recently jackie i have not my last trip was september of last year i flew to new york city
wore the mask i think i even had an n95 for a period of on the plane it was kind of hard but
yeah i was i was very lucky i went i did a bunch of comedy shows i i like did a lot of indoor activities and i was
totally covid free yeah that was kind of the fall was still kind of cool right there right before
thanksgiving there was that window where you could have done anything and anything okay yeah i was
looking the you know the the hands and the pulse the poles you know people hold on to in the in
the subway i was like i'm building my immunity they
taste so good what are you gonna do the high ones the high ones you're like doing a pull-up yeah
especially the ones that have like the gum stuck to them because you get a little spearmint in
there yeah fresh breath yes exactly is the mood at comedy shows like have you noticed any difference
like are things changing are people
figuring out how to act in public again or i mean i think it's kind of like back out in the bay now
things are kind of quote unquote back to normal i'll be honest i do a lot i focus on a lot of
outdoor shows i do a lot of outdoor shows just to like lower the risk right and i'm actually like
producing outdoor shows exclusively so you know just it. But like folks are still gathering in clubs.
You know, the clubs are booked.
We've got lots of comics touring coming into the area.
So it's kind of back to normal.
There was a time when the shows I was producing, we would switch out microphones.
So everybody got a disinfected microphone.
It did make things kind of awkward because you literally have to like plug in the microphone before you get back, you know, before you get into your set.
And then they were doing this is so silly, what we call microphone condoms.
And they would just like take this material and put it on top and then everyone got their own.
I don't know how effective they were, but I will say I like I like once the spike happened with Omicron, like in what was it like December?
I was like a lot of people were sick in the
community. And I was like, I am not sharing a microphone with these fools. You know, so like,
I dipped out of the shows for a good like four weeks just to like let things subside because
it was kind of crazy. But yeah, it's back to normal now, I'd say. But like I said, I'm out
here just being a little bit extra cautious. I have immunocompromised family that I see regularly.
So I'm focusing on the outdoor shows, but now I'm going to probably go back indoor again.
So, right. Yeah. And do you, do you feel like the audience, we've heard from comics saying like the
audience is, you know, ready to laugh. Some people saying they're, they're like, you know,
not ready to drink in public yet. What's your experience been like?
The people who are going to comedy shows, I feel like I'm not saying they're risk takers, but I think they're like, no, I'm here for this.
Like, I need to laugh.
It's been a minute.
Like, they're they're all for it.
People are sitting next to each other.
People are drinking and eating indoors.
I think I think just because the Bay Area was so staunch about it, we were one of the first ones in the country to do a shelter in place.
It was early, like what was March 16th, I think was when they announced it in 2020.
So I think like the people who want to go indoors are the ones who are just dying to go indoors.
They're just like, I want to be here.
Entertain me.
It's been a long time.
Yeah.
But I think the audiences have changed a little bit.
There's certain jokes that just I'm noticing. I'm like, is it me? Is it you? Like, there's just a there's certain jokes that I used to tell pre pandemic that are just hitting slightly different. And maybe it has something to do with the shift in the American consciousness, what happened and with the murder of George Floyd. Like, there's a lot of jokes that like, I'm like, okay, how is this fitting with people? How do they like it? You know, and there's just something changing. But I'm, we're reemerging again, out here. And I, I'm, I'm like, okay, how is this fitting with people? How do they like it? You know? And there's just something changing.
But we're reemerging again out here.
And I mean, people want to laugh.
People want to get together.
And people want to hang out right now.
So we're giving them what they came for.
There you go.
And when I said they're not ready to drink in public yet, I mean, like, they're not prepared for behaving appropriately.
Because they all just get shit-canned like red wet. I mean, they don't want prepared for behaving appropriately because they all just get shit canned like red wet.
I mean, they don't want to.
Oh, oh, I see.
OK, because I was like, yeah, they're like, give me liquor now.
Yeah, they're demanding it.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Disney.
And talk about Disney.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new,
chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary
perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital
revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive
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I was a lady rebel.
Like, what does that even mean?
The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits.
It's right here in black and white in print.
They lying.
An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch.
As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on.
Why would we want to be the losing team?
I'd just take all the other stuff out of it.
Segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools,
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And we're back.
So is Disney World.
It seems like a lot of people are going there.
I've heard from people who are back at Disney World.
Disney did finally condemn Florida's so-called don't say gay bill after multiple protests, some walkouts at the company.
And that has prompted some truly deranged takes from the right, such as an op ed uh the federalist urging people to boycott disney world
and instead visit dollywood yep oh my god that'll show them stay gay there home of noted lgbtq plus
icon dolly parton so got him got him folks ted cruz claimed in his podcasts that i mean i don't
we don't need to tell you what ted cru Cruz said on his podcast because there's probably a 100% Venn diagram overlap between our show and Ted Cruz's.
But he did claim that this will lead to Disney making content featuring Mickey and Pluto fucking.
He said they're just going to be going at it, Jack.
Use his conservative language.
But he did specify the characters. Mickey and Pluto going at it jack use his conservative language but like that he did he did specify the characters
mickey and pluto going at it so like all right like that i feel like that's something i feel
like that's something going on with you man he keeps that whole quote is specific disney stepping
in saying you know in every episode now they're gonna have you know mike mickey and pluto
going at it like really it's just like come on guys these are kids and you know you could always
shift to cinemax if you want that what the fuck do you think is on cinemax first of all and second
of all someone needs someone needs to check his search history because totally oh it says so much
about him.
Remember the porno incident?
Right. Yeah, yeah. He liked a tweet
from an actor.
Yeah, he liked this pornographic tweet
or whatever. Yeah. I was hacked!
And they chose to use my
incredibly powerful platform
to like a tweet from
a porn actor.
Pluto is just funny to me because it's like wasn't goofy
wasn't donald you're going to can you want pluto early he's getting in early it's the specificity
yeah he's he he's had that thought quietly before he said it out loud ron de santis meanwhile is
trying to repeal a law that gives
disney the right to self-governance theme park which a lot of outlets have been writing about
he's been threatening to do that for weeks and the the question like so yeah this is all fucked
up like it's fucked up that it took disney as as it did. And then the, this backlash, like it's just,
well,
okay,
we live in a hell world,
but the fact that Disney governs itself in Florida is like such a,
such a strange detail.
So our writer,
JM kind of went into the history of that.
And apparently Walt Disney,
you know,
just using his imagineering ability and just like
his ability to have a vision and just like child use childlike wonder to bring it together in 1965
he hired multiple lawyers who were never aware that the shell companies they were working for
all belonged to disney and they all started buying up land right around each other so he could get it at a good price which like that's just shrewd but
it's just funny that like we're like walt disney the a name synonymous with childlike wonder and
imagination and he's like out here like all right if this person finds out you're a lawyer who
worked for disney i'm going to have to kill you.
So just shut the fuck up.
Get the deal done.
So they were buying it up for what they called at the time
Reedy Creek Improvement District.
Once they put it together, it became its own municipality.
It has the same authority and responsibility as a county government.
Disney's responsible for sewage roads,
building permits.
If they want a liquor license,
they have to apply for one to themselves.
Oh my God.
And service like water and waste management are paid for through taxes that
Disney pays to Reedy Creek,
who then give the money back to Disney
because it's all Disney.
It's us.
We are Reedy Creek.
Yeah, so this gives them just an unparalleled ability
to shape the park environment without government oversight.
So it's very, very strange.
This is insane.
The fact that they charge as much as they do,
knowing all this shit,
like, the prices at Disney should be, like,
Costco.
Like, this would make, at least make sense
if it was, like,
and our hot dogs are $2,
and, you know,
you can buy a whole rotisserie chicken for $3.
Like, use the fact that you don't pay taxes to
anyone except yourself to like do something for but instead they just oh yeah now they're like
what if we have like a planned housing like low-income housing for like uh people and you're
like no you're just trying to save fucking money you're not doing anything novel or altruistic shut
the fuck up and i think that's the pattern here but what's the thing is even this talk of like trying to dissolve
that as a threat has the outcomes are going to be so fucked up for the people that live around there
because all of that like financial responsibility then goes to the two counties that this that this
improvement district is housed in so people potentially will be looking at like over two thousand dollars more and in fucking like taxes they would have to pay to offset disney
leaving so it's like there's there's like nothing about this that works like so many people even in
like in the area like this won't help anything in fact we're gonna have to pay for it because
they have the revenue to cover their tax bill and their services. We can't now suddenly flip that bill. But that never stopped.
This is crazy. Like the public sector, the amount, like the responsibilities of different
cities and counties. I work, my day job is in the public sector. And it's just like crazy to assume
that there's like this corporation, Disney, that like has its own town. It's essentially like a
company town, you know, and they get to dictate all the costs there's just like so much power in doing that and in the public
sector you have like requirements to ensure that public funds are used in a certain way obviously
not everybody does it as they should there's a lot of corruption but i can only imagine just
knowing how hard it is when people are looking and paying attention. What's going on when you are your own municipal, you know, municipality?
What happens when you are like, I just it just it just screams there's crazy stuff happening under the hood.
What about the public safety down there, Jack?
Yeah. So the Reedy Creek Fire Department has been dealing with significant staff shortages since the pandemic.
fire department has been dealing with significant staff shortages since the pandemic. And apparently,
you know, they haven't added emergency workers in the fire department since 1989. Recently, somebody died of a heart attack in Magic Kingdom because the fire department was putting out,
I don't know, like a fake fire somewhere. Maybe a real fire, but they were otherwise occupied by,
I think they caught Mickey and Pluto fucking in the bushes.
Had to hose them down.
Yeah, had to hose them down.
It was getting too hot in there.
And just speaking about the surrounding counties,
in 1990, Reedy Creek swooped in and won $57 million in government bonds,
which nearby Orange County wanted to use to build affordable housing.
Reedy Creek used the money to upgrade Disney's sewage system.
Have you guys seen The Florida Project?
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
I highly recommend that.
That's about a motel where impoverished Americans are basically living,
but it's right next door to Disneyney world and it's just it's an
it's an awesome movie and also like kind of about this or takes place in the midst of this it's
really fucking crazy but yeah an expert believes that like the whole thing is trying to take away
their powers is basically politically impossible and that makes sense
most people have like who looked at the like how to dissolve this special tax district it would
apparently require a majority vote from residents and landowners in the district considering how
many employees work there too i don't know if if they'd even have the space for that, especially if the people, the residents in that area know that the tax burden would suddenly fall on them if this is dissolved.
So it's all theater. up to so much other shit that's really fucked up like you know this new gerrymandered map that
essentially just vaporized these black congressional districts and robbed black floridians of
representation because they just lumped them in with these new republican districts and then
recently like another anti-trans bill so it's like because you know like there's a lot of this stuff
there's always some there's so many things happening.
And like you said, like, you know, Steve Bannon's thing, flood the zone with shit.
You can't keep track of anything.
They flooded the zone with shit.
But these other things that are happening are black Floridians are losing their representatives in Congress.
And, you know, we're we're we're enacting more like transphobic, violent like in the state as well but i get it disney
disney just captures the culture more because like what the fuck is this but there's other
real consequential shit happening too at the same time yeah florida is so interesting i have to say
i've never been there before but i'm not like ready to run over to disney in florida like i
don't know i'm i'm uh there's just so much happening there,
but I do have to go experience it because I think, especially out here in California,
people have a lot of thoughts about other places, but we really need to go there and
see what it's about. But yeah, I mean, and it's Disney has a stronghold there.
The state leadership can be one thing, but the people there are completely different.
And totally, unfortunately are the way a lot oficans look at things is we just look at people based on their their leadership in the state and
then determine whether or not we fuck with them based off of that like it's the same thing when
a lot of fucking idiot just dumb liberals were like oh i'm so glad to see texas completely freeze
over they deserve it because they're going to have it you're like no no man like don't don't
fucking don't lose track of the fact that like human beings are everywhere and we have to figure that out but
yeah as i why go to a state where they're invested so much in like doing harm to people that are like
me right and you know don't give a fuck about other people's humanity yeah that's not a great
feeling right yeah is there any hope on the gerrymandered map or he can just do that and call it a day?
I believe he can call it a day.
I'm sure there's going to be litigation.
I'm not sure who's going to adjudicate that.
But at first it seemed like it wasn't going to be able to pass.
But I know the legislature, I'd have to fully look into it.
Yeah, yeah.
but i know the legislature it's i'd have to fully look into it but yeah yeah when you look at how much energy is invested in completely changing these maps to like ensure a state is just going
to go one way every single election then it's you know they spend a lot of energy making sure it
stays like that well fortunately florida judges really seem to be on the up and up and killing it
recently so we we might have some respite there.
Oh, wait, no, they're trying to kill us.
Yeah.
Well, Jackie, it's been a true pleasure having you on TDZ.
Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Yeah, please follow me at Jackie Comedy.
I'm on Instagram, Twitter, all of the things.
And yeah, I would love to
share an event that I have coming up here in the Bay. So if any of your listeners are in the Bay,
we've got Good Medicine. It's a Native comedy show that I've been producing for a couple of years
now. And we have a live show at the Oakland Museum on May 14th. And so that's in about
three weeks or so. All native lineup.
It's going to be super fun.
It's an outdoor event.
So folks are nervous about that.
It'll be fun.
And you can get all the details
on the Oakland Museum website
at museumca.org.
So thank you so much for having me.
This has been a pleasure.
You guys are awesome.
Coming on, we gotta have you back.
Wonderful having you. And is there a pleasure. You guys are awesome. Coming back. Coming on. We gotta have you back. Wonderful having you.
And is there a tweet
or some of the work of social media you've been
enjoying? Yes. Where is it?
Oh my god, this is so embarrassing.
I've just been following a lot of Killing Eve
right now. I told you I love TV shows.
Are you guys watching Killing Eve?
I still need it.
How many seasons are there in four now?
This is the fourth and final. Yeah, so I just need it. How many seasons are there in four now? This is the fourth and final.
Yeah.
So I just started three.
Oh, okay.
Well, Miles, they just dropped like the last episode like a couple weeks ago.
I'm not going to ruin it for folks, but that's been those are the tweets that I've been following incredibly closely because the fan base has a lot of thoughts about the ending.
So if anyone's listening from Killing Eve, you didn't give us what we deserved.
God damn it.
I have thoughts. I have lots of thoughts.
So anyway, there's a tweet that I love
about a moment that we could have shared
on screen and we didn't.
So anyway, I will share that
with you all.
Miles, where can people find you?
What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. Also,'s the tweet you've been enjoying find me twitter and instagram
at miles of gray
also where else do you find
me the 420 day fiance
the you know obviously we were talking 90 day
fiance check us out over there
and also jack and I's basketball podcast
mad boosties
official NBA show so come check that out
where we talk you know just
talking that talk about our favorite
favorite basketball games.
Yeah. Yeah. Favorite basketball games.
Favorite basketball games.
And yeah, we're talking about the playoffs.
What's your Anthony Edwards?
You know, good mic'd up moments.
Literally every mic'd up to try and pull the good ones out.
So even, you know, so come by.
NBA players are very funny.
A lot of the time.
The tweet I like is from Alex Dobrenko at Dobrenks
with a Z tweeted.
Therapist,
what's your attachment style?
Me.
I don't know.
PDF?
Oh my God.
I've learned so much about you right now miles by that
you know you know you know you know I'm trying to deal with my own intimacy
and attachment issues that there I love it all right let's see I've been enjoying a tweet from
soulmate mnate shamalan tweeted amnpm stand for approaching Malone and post Malone, respectively.
And Zach Pugh tweeted, Earth Day just feels sarcastic at this point, which it kind of does.
Oh, and then this is a thing that I think it really sums up what's wrong with American capitalism.
Like one of 20 things, but like a very important point that doesn't get brought up that much. Yell in a war tweeted, my only Netflix stock take is that maybe it isn't actually smart to base our
entire financial system on the belief that everything needs to grow constantly forever
to have any value. That is, has been a constant thought I've had every time I've done something
worthwhile. And then you have the meeting with the business
side and they're like, alright, so how do we grow this?
How do we 10x this? What's the
scalability here? And it's just like,
what the fuck are you talking about?
This thing works right now as it is.
Right. Yeah, yeah. So how do we scale it up?
What do we do? How do we put
an S and a dollar sign at the end of that?
Man, I've got a fucking void in my soul, man.
I don't know if I passed down through generations
of taking shit from other people, but
I need to fucking stop.
Do you hear that sucking? That's
the hole in the middle of
where a soul
should go. Anyways,
you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore
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a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles,
what song do we think people might enjoy?
Man, we're going to do more ghost culture.
Okay? Because some people are like, well, that ghost culture track was cool.
Okay.
You like that ghost culture track?
Oh, you thought that was cool?
Well, you thought you were fucking with ghost culture?
No, not like this.
This is a track that's just the artist ghost culture, the UK producer.
And this track is called Mouth.
And again, very interesting electronic just track.
I just like the way this song builds and has like really kind of haunted vocals on it.
But I don't know.
Like I found myself like giving it just like nice head nod to it.
So again, this is Mouth by Ghost Culture.
All right.
Well, go check that out in the footnotes.
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