The Daily Zeitgeist - Don’t Tease Me Bro! = GOP, Hawk Tuah Mouthwash Anyone? 07.31.24

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

In episode 1717, Miles and guest co-host super producer Justin Connor are joined by musician, Janie Danger, and host of T-Time, Carmen Laurent, to discuss… GOP Suddenly Worried About Their Racist Rh...etoric, Fascists Don’t Like Being The Butt Of The Joke…, Madame Hawk Of Tuah Continues To Trademark Sh*t and more! GOP Suddenly Worried About Their Racist Rhetoric Fascists Don’t Like Being The Butt Of The Joke… Madame Hawk Of Tuah Continues To Trademark Sh*t  LISTEN: East Atlanta Sober by Janie DangerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 well and justin connor is like the perfect uh like action hero name because they all got to have jesus christ initials like so many oh yeah heroes have jc or j first or or also they like to do like two first names like jack ryan yeah yeah yeah justin connor couldn't even know for that too i was too afraid to use that in middle school. I was like, oh, I'm going to go by JC this year and that backed out at the last second and only my sister calls me that now. I am.
Starting point is 00:00:34 My mom treated Jimmy Carter for brain cancer like several years ago. She called him JC? Yeah. He showed up and he has a big old belt buckle that says JC on it. That's pretty dope. Yeah. I feel like he looks so frail though.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I feel like that's probably like a health hazard now to have such a big belt buckle for his body. My bladder. Belt buckle first. Don't be surprised if you see me next holiday party with a big old JC buckle. I know. Yeah. Do you need one of those strike anywhere matches? Just right off the buckle. I always wanted to fucking light a blunt like that. need one of those strike anywhere matches just right off the buckle
Starting point is 00:01:05 i always wanted to fucking light a blunt like that yeah off a strike anywhere just have like a little just have it be a whole utility belt but for like oh yeah fucked up shit yeah yeah yeah oh you need a hold on hold on yeah i got a bullet right here hold on right here there you go yeah i got it here turn it over oh so you don't know how to load that thing properly upside down then rotate the thing and now you got there you go i'll see you in 15 minutes when you go yeah you got more yeah yeah i mean i got an erlenmeyer flask on here too you need that what the fuck are you doing Yeah. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:01:57 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
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Starting point is 00:03:18 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 349, episode three of the daily Zeitgeist production of iHeartRadheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is wednesday july 31st damn we already got that damn fourth of july the fuck happened i need to pay rent well anyway uh july 31st is national mutt day uh national raspberry cake day and shout out all us millennials who don't have anything because we all put it in avocado because it's National Avocado Day. So allow us to exalt our favorite avocados and hold them in the air. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:03:58 A little bit of sofa in my life. A little bit of love seat by my side. A little bit of day bed, all I need. A little bit of set seat by my side a little bit of day bed all i need a little bit of settees what i see a little bit of futon in the sun a little bit of divan all night long a little bit of shay's lounge here i am a little bit to diet do mix jd your events all right shout out the frequent news ghost for that mambo number five. Wonderful, wonderful, sectional, inspired. No love for the Ottoman?
Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean, I think we couldn't find that. I mean, we could have probably put it in there for one of the other ones. Well, that's me, Miles Gray, in the place to be. But I am thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host today. A wonderful person. A wonderful producer, editor, DJ, beat maker, film aficionado. Please welcome to the guest co-host microphone, my co-host, Justin Conner! It's your boy, Justin Conner, aka. But did you know, when Jack's not home, I turn on my mic for the daily zeitgeist and
Starting point is 00:05:05 I sing. Baby, I'm here to co-host the show with the Miles of the Great. The more I get on Zoom, the stranger it feels. It's something that I'm not used to.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm here on the Zoom with miles gray baby boy thank you i appreciate it that was off the top of the dome i i fumbled it at the beginning but we got there wait you just spit you didn't even write it down before you literally just i was trying to think of a song that i love that really touches my heart and that that just flew out what is it about that song bro i I will fucking sing that shit with tears in my eyes. Hollywood Bowl on August 9th. Seal is going to be there.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I don't know if I'm going, but I'm thinking about purchasing some tickets. Yo, that audience is going to be weird as hell. It is. I went there on Juneteenth, and I will say, not as diverse as I would have hoped. You're like, hey, guys, we're here for Juneteenth. You're like, what the fuck? I feel like too many people have season tickets there and you just see like a popular name and they're like, okay, bet.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And they're like, the kids use that, right? And then it's not. Well, Justin, it's good to have you. Thank you for joining me. But now we will introduce our guests today in our third and fourth seats. These two hosted the iconic podcast, Beauty Translated. You also know them as fantastic. Just, again, someone who I take skin tips from because I don't have hair.
Starting point is 00:06:38 So I'm going to take the skin tips from them. And I will, I will take all of her advice to keep my skin hydrated my body hydrated and also a fantastic musician she got a new album out east atlanta sober and guess what she's got a show this sunday at the masquerade at the masquerade on the altar stage for all the atlanta's i can please pull up for our guest today carmen lara and janie danger welcome back welcome back can't keep us away no yeah you can't no no way uh carmen did you lighten up the hair oh i did yeah y'all haven't seen me i've actually i've been on a journey since last time you saw me i no longer have black hair used to be jet black since the time i was 13 and i I also had voice surgery, so I have
Starting point is 00:07:26 a new voice. I have a new face and some new tits. Okay. Well, we have to have you back for each of those. Every time we level up, we love to see it. We love to see the glow up. Everybody's doing well? We're rocking and rolling.
Starting point is 00:07:41 A lot of rain here in Atlanta lately. Oh my God, every day. It's been insane. It's kind of depressing, honestly. Do we live in Seattle or what? No, it's been depressing me because my lawn is... I'm a girl, but I'm kind of a lawn guy. I take a lot of pride.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I'm very Hank Hill about it. Mowing a lawn, you look at it and you like drink a beer and it feels great you're like damn I fucking did that shit and it looks beautiful and what you got the edge out uh it looks like trash right now there's fucking weeds and shit like everywhere and I can't fucking take care of it there's some mushrooms
Starting point is 00:08:18 I actually I mowed like a solid like quarter of it last week and then it started raining I got so mad like i fell to my knees in the rain like with my mower next to me like yeah wait is this a push mower or riding mower it's a it's a electronic push mower wow no because i mean i in in like la like riding mowers are foreign to me unless like it's you're like looking at a golf course or someone with some kind of gigantic estate but i know properties the acreage is much bigger across the u.s and a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:50 people just have their riding mower so i would love a riding mower if any listeners want to give me a riding mower like i will ride it around i was always jealous of people with with riding mowers because like i that was a chore i had to do in the humid illinois summers and i was i feel like an 11 year old body shouldn't be able to handle all of that but i had to get it done and i saw this kid up the street yeah you learn you learn but i had a kid up the street who had like this brand new riding lawnmower and i was like what are what are one of the what can i get one of those what are those yeah and my dad my dad was just like this builds character you know and i was like what's that kid up to now i mean i'm pritzker governor of illinois
Starting point is 00:09:33 i kind of like the the pushing because it gives me it gives me some exercise it gets me all sweaty and gives me out in the sun i i maybe maybe like'm older, I'm like, maybe I do need to build character for all those times that I skipped on character building day as a kid. Right, right, right. It didn't help me build a personality. It just helped me build character. I don't know what that means. It means you're resilient. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:01 And you know how to get going when the going gets tough yeah and i moved to the place where riding a lawnmower using a lawnmower in any way is not necessary for me i'm right yeah well yeah because they don't have lawns in la because of all that woke right yeah because all the work yeah i gotta do some outlook lawn somebody growing up in la at a certain point when you realize how bone dry this fucking place is, I started feeling bad watering shit. I was like, man, do I really need this? Well, y'all have water shortages once a year, right? Yeah, well, luckily, because of the last few rains, we've gone into slightly better territory drought-wise.
Starting point is 00:10:40 But we're in these boom-bust cycles. I saw the rains in Los Angeleseles i say y'all just need to start having lawns um don't let wokeness take lawns from you yeah i agree or these water bills take all your money from you that's a very um that's a very like twitter argument like that and like like people say that about like golf courses too, which I kind of am in agreement on that one. Oh, fuck golf courses. Yeah, that like golf courses are like a giant like waste of like resources. And they're like tax-free.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Like it's a problem. Jack talks about it a lot. Almost as much as the gas study. Yeah, coal gas study. We're trying to kick that in talking about AI so much. Just things that freak us out, okay? We're off that, okay? We've made our point.
Starting point is 00:11:31 We've made our point. We've made our point. Anyway, let's preview some of the stories we may or may not get to. First one, the GOP is suddenly worried about their racist rhetoric. So we'll kind of hear some quotes from them. You're like, wait. That's surprising. Is this okay then also just like on the weird tip you know like the weirdness shit has really been throwing the gop for a loop they're like i was hoping y'all would y'all
Starting point is 00:11:55 have this in your docket yeah yeah yeah absolutely and i think i think and i definitely i'm glad y'all are here because also there's like i was reading this interesting just excerpt from someone who wrote about the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville and their sort of observations on what actually pisses off the alt-right the most. And guess what? It's not aggression. It's being fucking teased. They don't like being teased. So we will talk about that. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But it's OK. We're going to tease the fuck out them. OK. Period. And we'll also maybe get to Biden announcing some Supreme court reforms. Uh, we also Trump's secret weapon in this election. It might be bat shit election officials. So we will talk about a report that came out from Rolling Stone. Yeah. Somehow it's fat. Guano is factoring into this election. We'll talk about some of the people that are willing to do his bidding.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Well, also, I think we should also talk about Madam Hawk of Tua continues to trademark shit. And I don't know where this is going, but God damn, they're trying. And we may even talk about Hawk Tua Valley Ranch. What'd you say? Hawk Tua Valley Ranch. What'd you say? No, no. Hak Tua Valley Ranch. Exactly right. I'm serious.
Starting point is 00:13:11 It may end up there. They are really trying fucking every sort of, like, derivation twist. Training Day starring Denzel Washington and Ethan Hak Tua. Hak Tua. And we might even talk about Chinese-made U.S. flags that Republicans are mad about, but also responsible for. All that and a lot more. But first, y'all know how we do it. The first thing we like to ask our guests. What's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:13:37 Janie, go first. Me go first? Okay. This took a while because I had some fairly normal searches, believe it or not. Just a lot of Spanish to English translations. Are you bilingual? Are you getting bilingual in practice? No, I've been learning Spanish for a while.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Nice. Yeah. Soy practicando mi español. Oh, que bueno. Yeah, I had this cool picture of a wolf staring at the moon. That was kind of fine. That's one. But the one... Wait, that shit looks like those corny ass t-shirts that everybody's hard as hell it's hard yo wait is
Starting point is 00:14:11 that wolf like it's like it's like in like a man like with their hands on their knees yeah yeah it's probably some like furry shit but like it's a really cool picture a lot yeah a lot of people post this on twitter a lot and i i needed it for it's a mood it looks like it's improvising poetry to itself it does it looks it's like uh it's like the vibe of like sitting by the uh bonfire in dark souls you know it's kind of uh it's it's romanticized stoicism and i like that quite a bit okay okay but Okay. But my roommate texted me the other day and said, hey, can you keep it down? I'm studying.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And I just sent her a picture of my Amazon shopping list. And it was a unicycle and hand symbols. Really cracking myself up, thinking about how funny it would be to move into like an apartment as like someone's neighbor and be like you know i'm gonna get into like doing like circus carnage like circus side show right i'm gonna like buy but yeah i'm gonna be a live circus monkey learn how to ride a unicycle and bash and wear like a red velvet vest too obviously yeah yeah i feel like that's what's going on when you're like uh like playing halo in like live
Starting point is 00:15:32 party chat you just hear like families screaming and like monkeys like bashing on symbols in the background right right right you're like i need to mute the fucking chat yeah always some wild shit that you overhear over those gaming headphones carmen what about you oh my god okay well i have a lot of shit in my i've been like i've been converting the yen to usd because i am going to japan my homeland yeah yeah i am going when you go in october october beautiful time beautiful time October. October. Beautiful time. Beautiful time. For spooky season, baby. Yeah. There she is. But I have recently been searching Julie Masking. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And nobody knows who the fuck Julie Masking is. I thought that was a makeup technique. I'm like, oh. Yeah. That's kind of what I was thinking too. Yeah. It is. You could call it a makeup technique. And if we're talking full silicone bodysuit as a makeup technique.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Oh, my God. Yeah. So, who's Julie Masking? I became obsessed with Julie Masking about 17 years ago when she posted some videos on early YouTube. Like, they're still up on YouTube. She looks like long legs. She does look like long legs. She has long legs.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And I'm obsessed with long legs right now. So anything long legs is just making me freak out. But she is a character that appeared online 17 years ago and then disappeared just as quickly. She would just post random 30-second videos of herself in a full silicone, hyper-realistic silicone mask. And I could not for the life of me remember what her name was a few days ago so i was having a full manic episode trying to remember what this woman's name was and you know you'd be surprised it's actually not a man in a full silicone bodysuit she's actually a trans woman in a full silicone bodysuit so wow and she's like an artist like
Starting point is 00:17:25 what's what like yeah she's actually so i found well there's not it's very mysterious it's yeah it's like i love that you brought this up to my attention this is like a creepy pasta that i would like watch yes it's like very like shrouded and like mystery nobody really knows who julie masking is but her flicker exists on the internet and it turns out she's just like a old school like showgirl drag performer trans woman from back in the day and i guess 17 years ago she just decided hey i'm gonna put on this fucking silicone mask and freak everyone out on the internet and i remember watching those when they were first posted but then the other day i was trying to remember who she was because I was thinking a lot about
Starting point is 00:18:06 long legs, as I do ever since I saw the movie. And I was just going insane. I was like Google image searching, like trying to like figure out her name. Her name is Julie Masking. But today she has a new, she's still doing it. But now she goes by Julie Mask mask spelled in the in the english or french way which is m-a-s-q-u-e and cool yeah there's not a lot of information about there she's very shrouded in mystery okay we like that but i've been obsessed with her there used to be
Starting point is 00:18:38 this um old creepy youtube video that like i'm gonna describe badly but i'm sure i feel like you carmen have probably seen it but it's like a probably like a it's like a grainy vhs thing of like this like girl in like a bunny suit like on stilts and she's like singing like a children's song or something and it's very it's like terrifying like i remember seeing it in like 2010 and it was like i was so enamored by it and it's the kind of it's like you described it's like the kind of thing that like it's impossible to find like any information on right because it's
Starting point is 00:19:09 probably like that's probably the point it's like it's like a you know art project by some like you know insular little like gay guy like living in like Kentucky or something you know and that this is just what they do in their free time to freak people out but nonetheless I do think it's like real I think that shit's so cool like i love that i love shit like that yeah i want i need to
Starting point is 00:19:29 if i find this video i'm gonna send it to you i i bet you you've seen it but yeah it's so hard to find anything now yeah it is you know everything the search engine is fucked up yeah i know yeah what underrated who wants to go first oh i got one let's go to be y'all fuck with to be i've watched a show on to be before i've been a big fan of to be lately like in a in a world where like in a world in a world where uh every every streaming service is like so like fragmented and expensive and bullshit yeah to be it's free you watch some ads it has some awesome movies it has some great shit like and some original content that is oh and that's what i wanted to talk about there's some amazing to be original content that's all like looks like it comes from like like real estate like female real estate agents from atlanta
Starting point is 00:20:27 just making like like uh marriage dramas like in like two houses and they're so funny i will say so some of the advertising i was like some of the content that's been like targeted to me when i'm looking at like a banner ad or whatever for to be, it's a lot of like, I'll see it. And I'm like, has BET taken the biggest L ever? And then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh, this is a black show made by to be. And the wig work is crazy. And it's just, it's, it's like, I haven't given it a hate watch yet, but I feel like it'd be perfect to get high on Saturday afternoon and just like,
Starting point is 00:21:04 just trip out and watch the most funny shit ever yeah and people watch them like they're like the room quality i mean not quite that bad but they're like really awkward like you can tell they're not really made by someone who knows how quite how to make a movie yeah and like there's a lot of weird editing there's a lot of scenes where someone will be like and you betrayed me and then they just kind of awkwardly stand there for like a solid minute before it cuts away wow like yeah i think the most i've watched are like like i've seen clips on like instagram reels and tiktok where it just shows the most absurd like drama happening where people are like busting shots at each other while having a full conversation it's like it's like um
Starting point is 00:21:47 we talked about this before we started recording it's like trapped in the closet that quality of drama like it's so funny but I before we like there's one show that is amazing that I encourage everyone to watch called Hoochie Daddies
Starting point is 00:22:04 it is about it is like one show that is amazing that I encourage everyone to watch called hoochie daddies. It is about, it is like a, a kind of big brother survivor type show about a group of, um, reality. Like logo. Yeah. Like,
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Starting point is 00:22:45 been standing there for like hours as they bring in everyone one of them's just drinking liquor the whole time it is so cool none of it is like miked up right so all of the scenes where they're all like interacting and riffing with each other it's just it's like a robert altman movie where everyone's talking it is so fucking cool a lot of room tone so shouts out to tubi for making great content original and providing us with some classics as well shout out to all the studs too there's another one i just guys said titanic 666 is a 2B original film also. What? Yeah. It's a sequel to Titanic 2. What? The save us another one.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Dark forces from the deep sea rise to the surface terrorizing all aboard from Titanic 3 and threatens to repeat one of history's greatest disasters. It's got a 16% on Rotten Tomatoes. Fuck with me. Oh, I gotta watch this. I also watch La Ventura street's greatest disasters it's got a 16 on rotten tomatoes fuck with me oh i gotta watch this yeah and also i i also watched like some like like i watched like la ventura which is like a
Starting point is 00:23:50 60s like new wave italian movie like it's like like these like criterion collection truly the entire spectrum of entertainment yeah it's so cool like wow yeah i didn't even know there was a titanic too i'm gonna we're writing that one down carmen what about you what's something you think is underrated um look i'm just gonna say it y'all i think long legs is underrated and i know it was the number one selling movie after despicable me 4 which makes it the number two movie but uh long legs getting some kind of mixed reviews I don't give a fuck if anyone doesn't like it It is the best movie
Starting point is 00:24:29 that has come out in a long time and I want to watch it 500 times So go see Long Legs Don't read any bad reviews because it really doesn't matter It's just a fun, campy horror movie and I just love Nicolas Cage.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, I can endorse it as well. I've heard a lot about it, but I'm not a horror person. So usually I don't gravitate towards them. But I do like aggressive Nicolas Cage acting, though. You gotta see it. aggressive Nicolas Cage acting, though.
Starting point is 00:25:02 You gotta see it. In my honest opinion, I think it's kind of a horror procedural thriller. Like a movie like Zodiac or Seven. Silence of the Lambs. Or Cure. I don't know if any of y'all
Starting point is 00:25:19 have seen the Kiyoshi Kurosawa movie, Cure, but it reminds me of that one a lot. Especially because that movie also has the same thing. It's like a group of killings happen where a random person just like snaps and they don't know why and then they find out that a mysterious stranger has like visited all of these people before they like did their act of violence but anyway i think it's like a good like detective movie because i love detective movies and it's solid as that, but I think it's better as a horror movie. The unnerving stuff is quite unnerving
Starting point is 00:25:52 and horror is pretty subjective. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I enjoyed it. I had my problems mostly in the third act, but I enjoyed it. I like this very thoughtful. It's elevated a lot by Nicolas Cage being
Starting point is 00:26:06 very fully committed to having an insane performance. And looking disgusting. He is incredibly hard to look at. The scenes where you actually see him fully in frame, it's
Starting point is 00:26:22 really awful to stare at. I was like, yo. looks like i wore my long legs today and i don't know why it was called long legs i kept thinking is that like an anagram for something i haven't quite figured that out but i just think it's one of those movies that it doesn't have to mean anything it doesn't it's just fun and it's silly and it's goofy and i love it i do like it for that horror flick i like i like that like all the like fun and it's silly and it's goofy. And I loved it. I do like it for that. I like that all the horror elements, it's not like, well, the real Satanism is trauma.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It's not like that. It's like, no, it's just meant to be a scary thriller. And in that regard, I definitely appreciate it because I'm sick of that bullshit. The demon is not acknowledging your children's desires. Come on now. What the fuck? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Is that the Babadook? Yeah. Literally. The real demon is your repressed homosexuality. No! That's why you're doing bad. Carmen, what do you think is overrated? Oh, well, I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Say it. Being underweight is overrated. I have been underweight my whole life. Body positive karma. I'm in my bosity, my bosity posity. My bosity posity. Bosy potty.
Starting point is 00:27:36 But no, I am finally, for the first time in my life, not underweight. I've always tried to be a gainer, as they say, but my body just don't do it well i either hit the right age or the right dose of estrogen because i am now at 140 pounds for the first time in my life and i feel sexy yeah i love it i mean weight distribution and cycling is like
Starting point is 00:28:00 real as fuck like yes it's not a trick like it's not a trick no but yeah i'm very happy with um with uh my weight gain and i feel very confident i have boobs and a butt now imagine love to hear that my butt is flat from sitting down podcasting all the time i talk about this a lot i gotta my hamstrings are i gotta do something, you know, flatten it out. I was, I was also born as like a hard gainer, I assume is like the term. So it's, it's really, yeah. But I've recently started eating a lot better. I think also hitting the right age just kind of locks into me. I'm like, I need to start paying attention more to myself. And before I think the idea of like transforming my body just seemed like impossible also until recently. Now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:28:53 it feels doable, but I don't know what changed. I don't know if it's like therapy or whatever, but I think combination of it all. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I think, I think age has really factored into like me just wanting to get to a certain point and like i think being fed up also i think that was like your first point also is just being like my whole life i've been one way i feel like trying to see if i can push myself in another direction so that's also part of the challenge too yeah love to hear everybody got everybody's feeling good very positive message in message in the age of Ozempic. You don't fuck Ozempic.
Starting point is 00:29:27 I had some bar customers at the bar that I work at the other week. They're these really nice gay men. They're older, in their 40s. They ordered some food and they were like, this is the most we've eaten all week. We're all on Ozempic. I was like, you guys are all skinny. You guys are going to
Starting point is 00:29:43 look like freaks if you take Ozempic. That Ozempic face is no joke. The Ozempic face is no joke. Look at Simon Cowell. Look at Kelly Osbourne. I don't think that's just Ozempic face. That's true. It's the fillers too. He looks like the Hound
Starting point is 00:29:59 from Game of Thrones. Like for real. Have you seen him now? He does look crazy. I was like, from Game of Thrones now. Like, for real. Have you seen him now? I haven't. I haven't. He does look crazy. He looks like... I was like,
Starting point is 00:30:09 Simon? He looks like the handsome version of the Hound. A better example of the Ozympic face, Randy Jackson. A better example
Starting point is 00:30:19 of Ozympic face? Yeah. Randy Jackson looks fucking crazy. Like, I think that's what I... Good? Bad? Ozympic gets you no bad it gives you like a very like long distended neck and like your face like stays but you look
Starting point is 00:30:31 like a like that's not randy jackson i know right he looks crazy oh well oh the one thing i did read those how those drugs may be good for alzheimer's there's like they're starting to do more studies now that it might protect the brain and apparently it seems promising so it's like they this thing what the fuck doesn't this shit do but that's crazy i'll take the alzheimer's protection janie what about you what's something you think is overrated oh i couldn't really think of something good so i put i put the olympics oh yeah except for the celine dion sorry um only because i this is such a reddit opinion but like it definitely feel i'm not like anti-sports but it still just feels like something that like everyone kind of pretends to care about like yeah when any other part of the year like
Starting point is 00:31:18 bitch you're not watching discus like right right right i will say i watched the uh skateboarding and yuto horigomi did it again and that was pretty cool but uh did you see we lost in shooting somehow no i'm never good i only watched the skateboard only unless it's a school shooting or something yeah no sadly it's like mass or school but the the skateboarding i'm like i'm surprised as someone who's half japanese like how dominant japan has been in the skateboarding, I'm surprised as someone who's half Japanese, how dominant Japan has been in the skateboarding. The women's street competition, all those teenagers were just fucking it up. Yeah, I'm just... I'll tell you what it is.
Starting point is 00:31:54 It's style. Because a lot of these skaters have tricks for days. The guy from Canada was doing some really interesting stuff. But the Japanese, especially Yuto Horigami, has an absolutely immaculate style. the guy from canada was doing some like really interesting stuff but like the japanese especially yuto horigomi has an absolutely immaculate style like everything he does is like total bolt rolls away clean as fuck he does it like it's it's so insane like that's technique and i feel like that's what matters most to like uh olympics like like yeah you can have like a crazy trick but if it's like sketchy like it's not really yeah yeah yeah if you're not if you don't look like you're like playing tony hawk and
Starting point is 00:32:29 everything is just clean clean clean clean it's like yeah it it ain't it ain't getting a medal all right well uh we will take a break and we're gonna come right back and we're gonna talk about some of the shit going on in our wonderful country right after this. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career,
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Starting point is 00:34:58 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:35:27 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. sports and culture listen to naked sports on the black effect podcast network iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back uh so the gop the party that is america's most outwardly racist party is suddenly worried that their racism may be alienating voters.
Starting point is 00:36:10 According to multiple reports, it seems that leaders within the party have become increasingly worried that their reflexive racist rhetoric. I just I just branded that that's called alliteration could cost them in the election now that Kamala Harris is the presumptive nominee. So last week, Politico reported that leading House Republicans had to tell, quote, lawmakers to focus on criticizing Harris's record without reference to her race or gender. Following a series of comments by their members that focused on Harris's race, as well as claims she is a quote, DEI pick. They also worry that Trump and some of his more extreme supporters will be unable to refrain from deploying sexist and racially fraught language, which they fear will hurt them with crucial voting blocks. I feel like many people have decided, But yeah, it maybe doesn't help at this point to keep letting people know we don't like women of color, women, color. I think they're also like the GOP are kind of anticipating what a potential debate performance would look like between these two.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Because the optics were bad enough when Trump was like looming behind Hillary Clinton in 2016. Like the fucking Babadook, you know, like I said before. I rewatched that debate recently. Yeah, it's creepy. Like he couldn't help himself. And I doubt he'll be able to this time. It's hilarious. Yeah, I don't think it's going to work out well if he just he could be full pitbull and just attack Biden.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And it's not the same strategy here but he can't when you say full pitbull i thought he was like darling darling the mr 305 world i mean i know he likes miami so i was like i'm going full pitbull in this he finally takes off the hairpiece and goes full pitbull he would win every state he's gonna power up like michael jordan when he embraced the ball fair they're like He would win every state. He would. It would be a 50 state land. No, don't tell him that. He's going to power up like Michael Jordan when he embraced the ball fair. They're like, what about Pitbull summer? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Heisenberg. Look, when they, when they get to the hair. Mr. Worldwide. I'm Mr. Worldwide. Yeah, Mr. Worldwide. 305. Dale. We're at the hotel.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Dale. The mot motel The Holiday Inn Why do I feel like the GOP does this every four years where they decide, oh, wait we can't rely on only white They can only rely I remember even the first time I voted was
Starting point is 00:38:42 when Mitt Romney We can do math, we're on I voted was when Mitt Romney was running against Obama. And I remember at that time being like, holy shit, did they really just put Mitt Romney on Telemundo in brownface to, like, capture the Hispanic vote? And they really did do that. And I just feel like every four years they have this realization where they're like, oh yeah, we can't win if we are alienating voters of color.
Starting point is 00:39:14 So we have to pander in some kind of way. Right, right. The Democrats are really good at it. Oh yeah, hot sauce? Hot sauce in my bag? The way I see it is that the conservatives have had a really big like
Starting point is 00:39:27 identity crisis like ever since really like ever since trump like lost in 2020 um or even before that whenever like you mean jd because the whole the whole thing is that like conservative policies like like when you present like an average american with like okay we're gonna um cut social security and we're gonna like repeal like you're not going to be able to get an abortion and gay people can't get married by and large those are deeply unpopular policies yeah so the whole like conservative and really the whole like fascistic strategy entirely is to like blame outliers you know blame immigrants like say like you're like you know be prescriptive about like the things that are wrong and then blame like an out group right for it so but the thing is like they're victims of their own success because
Starting point is 00:40:19 trump was like the first person to like take that, like, like instead of doing dog whistles, he was like, he just said that, you know? Yeah. Yeah. He would just say like, Mexicans are rapists.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I'm going to do a Muslim ban. Like, yeah, stuff like that. Like, that's not a dog whistle at all. So I think that like, while Trump has this kind of like TV guy charisma that able to, like, kind of captivate people, motherfuckers like J.D. Vance do not, you know?
Starting point is 00:40:52 They have no riz, no aura, and they can't fucking, like, fashion a message. Like, they talk like fucking podcasters. Like, they talk, like, in a way that is no not like this but you know no no it's true i'm just saying like like they talk like fucking like these insular right wing like twitter people yeah and i think that like that's all that's all who they talk to and exchange ideas with ultimately at the top of the party i mean i think yeah and i think this was always the issue with the party following trump down this path. Like it worked. It may have worked in 2016 to be like, what if we really turned it up and see what happens? And that did work to an extent,
Starting point is 00:41:35 but every pretty, they failed in pretty much every subsequent race, even for many down ballot races, uh, for down ballot candidates that wanted to like specifically emulate that style. Obviously many Republicans get voted in, but there, there are a lot of times you see people go hard on the Trump shit and then like pretty much everyone's turned off and they still haven't quite connected that. But this concern obviously also extends to Trump's rhetoric as well. One person who was close to the campaign said many others feel that his words are becoming a liability, but they have no control over him this is a quote from somebody who spoke on the condition of anonymity quote we hope he doesn't
Starting point is 00:42:09 act like a crazy racist and sexist person but we can't control him there are probably dog whistles and racist and sexist tropes he'll stumble into his campaign is going to try to keep him out of that rhetoric but it's going to be difficult because that's all he knows and yeah yeah yeah hate to see it and they're gonna be like well actually he meant he meant this when he said that uh yeah you know like whatever it is so like it feels so much like 2016 again yeah it does but it but it's interesting because like conservatives kind of have like the same problem that like Hillary Clinton had where like no one in 2016, no like liberals wanted to admit that like Hillary Clinton by and large was deeply unpopular. And I mean, that's why she lost. And I think that conservatives
Starting point is 00:42:56 are having like a similar moment where they do not realize how unpopular this is. Like, because they own Twitter and they are like they've like kind of like insulated themselves in this like super online bubble where like their insane rhetoric of being like you know like everyone's like childless mothers are are worthless they're not even fucking people if you don't have a baby yeah childless women are yeah yeah worthless yeah everyone's a gross cat lady what about single dudes like ah well i'm focused on the women part and on the flip side kamala doesn't have i mean she only has a certain amount of baggage amongst a specific group of like ultra leftist you know people and and it's i she doesn't have the history and i think she's not hillary
Starting point is 00:43:46 clinton yeah they don't know how to attack her yeah yeah yeah he's not yet a war criminal right right yeah i mean she kind of is well like she's the vice president she's a drug war criminal it's adjacent yeah drug war criminal and look i mean like look as long as we're sending munitions uh to israel and you feel like there's a strong case to say that you're you are in that camp unfortunately still pretty immovable in that regard but yeah i don't know we'll see about that i guess yeah i mean i think you know like you know racism and bigotry like well obviously like prevalent in society like they aren't the kinds of ideologies that are going to attract new people right not in the way that the current gop does it um and even the most like basic analysis would show you this but yeah i mean like the biggest
Starting point is 00:44:30 reason too a lot of the the these candidates win that's a lot to do with voter suppression so that's the other dimension to it but speaking of these weirdos who are just racist and fucking bigoted just have every kind of phobia under the sun. They really don't like being the butt of the joke. Like, you know, there's a bit of political wisdom that shows calling the right weird may be one of the most effective tactics of getting them off message. Many conservatives are like right now they're trying to push back on the accurate description of their worldview.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And it's like clear they don't know what to do like vivek ramaswamy like tweet is like it's dumb and juvenile to be calling saying they're weird because this is a presidential election not a high school prom contest and you're like i'm sorry you're trying to what what are you trying to appeal to within people right now that this is dumb and juvenile. You have people calling some the weirdest fucking insults coming from the right. But yes, this is dumb and juvenile because it's kind of got you off balance. There is this Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, Tina Rosenberg, like in a New York Times article about like just observing the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville wrote that alt-right rallies have six core goals. And I think this is kind of interesting just to kind of keep in mind as you look, as we
Starting point is 00:45:46 look at what is happening with this, like, you know, calling the right weird right now. Their six goals are, quote, legitimize their views, strengthen their self-image as part of the downtrodden, unite their squabbling factors, attract new people to the movement, control media coverage, and feel powerful and heroic. Now, obviously, righteous anger is probably the first response that most people like arrive at when looking at this kind of hateful shit but like violent clashes typically allow these goals to be achieved very quickly for like these sort of alt-right demonstrations um and enable their ability again to look like they are being attacked and that they are the victims and that they have to actually you know use a bit of the heroism to be able to fight back fucking
Starting point is 00:46:29 antifa or whatever the the you know op du jour is for them soy they're being soy like they're doing and they're doing this is a classic thing too is that they'll they'll they're doing cancel culture yeah they're like like they're trying to get people like fired for like joking about like trump's ear getting grazed like stuff like that yeah yeah they're so like it's but i think again like there are a lot of examples where you've seen like there was like a like neo-nazi rally in montana where people just showed up like dressed as clowns and are just like being like look at these jokers and then like slowly like all right let's get out of here this is like stupid because what they want is people to pull
Starting point is 00:47:08 up and scream in their faces but when you pull up and just do the nelson from the simpsons and hit them with the they're like what the fuck there was like another example too of like this anti-racist sort of like sort of fundraising walk in Germany. And like a lot of German, like far right figures wanted to protest. So like they too wanted to be part of it to demonstrate. And the people just like ironically clapped for them. And they're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:47:34 man, you guys are killing it. Wow. And they were suddenly like, the shit just fizzled out. They're like, man, like they were just leaving the route.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Cause they're like, this isn't, I don't want to be cool anymore. Yeah. But the weird description i think is super you know it's on the nose for the moment and like to your point uh i think both of you were making earlier they only talk to these like very strange dudes that are like in tech and that's where there's a lot of reporting now that you know like right-wing tech billionaires
Starting point is 00:48:02 have an outsized influence on Donald Trump right now. He's like, listen, recently he's like, I love crypto. Like he used to not say that shit. He's like, crypto is thin air, blah, blah, blah. He doesn't know what crypto is. I do not think he genuinely understands what it is. But he did say like, now we're going to be the crypto capital of the world. And you're like, right. Cause you talk to some people and they're like, yeah, protect my money. And this is what you need to say. And you know, Caitlin has her own coin now, too. Caitlyn coin?
Starting point is 00:48:28 Dinner coin. It's the one. Now? She's doing rug pulls now? It's worth noting that I read this morning that the choice for J.D. Vance was propped, was pushed on him by Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, and I think Donald Trump Jr. And they're all soy boys.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Yeah, those are all gross insane people. I don't know. With no risk. I think it's the best messaging Democrats have had in a long time because it's something that i mean the biden era was so bad because even though like i think a lot of democratic policies
Starting point is 00:49:13 are popular and a lot of like democratic candidates were doing well down ballot having joe biden lead the party when he can't speak like is like it's a serious like liability yeah but now like yeah i don't know i think that just being it kind of reminds me of when you know i i know that uh kendrick certainly won the beef but when drake said metro shut your bitch ass up and just play those drums make some drums that is such a funny like dismissive like tactic like just being like you're not even worth discussing like it's not your lab yeah like these motherfuckers are like like their whole strategy is pulling out like fucking like 4chan memes it's like 4chan is weird this shit is not like no one knows what wojak is outside of y'all what are you doing the fact
Starting point is 00:50:06 that you have a full like folder of wojaks to like be mean to trans people is fucking weird man that is that yeah there's no other like it's and i mean the obsession they have with trans people is so weird like the whole yeah like every trans person is a pedo now every like right it's just like all yeah so it's giving obsessive it's like and i i think i think being dismissive is such a good strategy because it's not worth engaging with like it's not worth having ideological argument like having like ideological arguments on like like should trans people exist like should uh women be like mandatory to get pregnant like this these are stupid insane ideas and it's like it's easier to just be like no that's weird dude that's fucked up and what yeah just being like bro what yeah no i think trying to actually like
Starting point is 00:51:00 yes exactly right debating these things legitimizes it in a way that's not worth doing because you again like i think i was i may have said it yesterday like when especially when there's like a urge to point out the hypocrisy of them too it's like that's pointless it's it really is pointless so you have to ass up and play those drums negate the context that they're trying to like bring you into this debate. Like, you know, like this is this is the framing that we want to do. And just be like, bro, fuck this framing completely. And you're fucking weird, dude. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Yeah, because I think, you know, the that tactic, again, they're still trying to figure out what to do. They're only demonstrating even further that this is an accurate assessment. And yeah, the weirdness it's hard to beat those it's hard to beat those allegations uh because like the other side is when they're when you know a lot of the time the democrats are spending time like this is scary stuff man this is scary they like that they want people to be like oh my god they're scary yeah so then when you see a maga hat you're like oh yeah that person's like you look like a clown yeah and then now you're like bro you weird bro what have you guys seen
Starting point is 00:52:10 that guy on twitter that like goes around like wearing a maga hat yeah yeah yeah flyers and no one cares like no one pays attention to him at all like yeah because they want that beef when they go out they want they want confrontation yeah it's again it's 2016 2015 shit it's like trying to like trigger people right it's like and yeah it's like i mean we lived through four years of trump like we we well not that triggered anymore yeah we become calloused yeah right yeah i don't know i i've i've enjoyed i enjoy this topic a lot like i was glad that this was like not something y'all discussed already because like we i mean i think it's something we've been talking about it but i think because it's interesting to see like okay we're doing something there's like it's something different now to to
Starting point is 00:52:59 sort of you know get the conversation moving in a different direction rather than again going pot like because the policies are they're not even real policies. Like you're talking about upending people's ability to be free or be themselves and not have that be attached to some kind of societal punishment. Yeah. And I think by just obviously addressing the fucked up nature of that is good to message. But then they zoom out and be like yeah because they're weird and they want to be all up in your business when they need to be minding their own shit and this is this is what they're trying to do yeah i think i've brought this up a few times so yeah i think that like like owning twitter and making it like a super like right-wing platform
Starting point is 00:53:40 has really like put them i think you use the word echo chamber like i'm gonna use it again like it's really like made them like gas each other up in a way that's like you know most people don't fucking use twitter like yeah most people and also like to the people that still do like the normal people it's really damning that anytime you see like conservatives like defending like jd vance in the immediate comments under it it's like far further right conservatives being like well he has an indian wife and race mixing is bad and it's like y'all are fucking crazy right there's no what did he say about his wife recently he said and obviously she's not white is what yeah that's oh my god it's so like because he's internet brained yeah like he's been on fucking amy teresa's podcast no one should know who that is like right that's good you shouldn't
Starting point is 00:54:40 she's nobody but like she's kind of like a red scare type but it doesn't matter okay like yeah like that's the kind of people that these people like are like capitulating towards and it's like like if you look at who jd vance follows on twitter it's like insane it's like he follows like ben shapiro ted cruz and then like a guy that's named like bailey jay hitler hitler groiper 1488 right right right whoa like yeah like the ironic groiper like yeah like it's it's it's so they're all unappealing all of these people are too i mean it's really really no surprise that they don't respect women they are too afraid to defend their own partners it's great like ted cruz mitch mcconnell jd vance they're they're all they've all had shots taken at their wife and they are just too afraid to sit in the
Starting point is 00:55:30 car just watching it happen yeah and then they yeah and then they call everyone else it's crazy it is right yeah again that's a very 2016 term like calling people like that i feel like that died down we're back baby we're back we're back into time traveling again that is a weird term like that's a sexual like porn term yeah and it comes from people it's like my worldview is derived from tropes i'm seeing in the pornography i'm consuming yeah okay what about coward what's that i know videos where a guy sits in a chair while his wife has intercourse with another guy and he's okay um we just call that lack of character and being a shitty partner i don't know what a being a partner is so i'm just gonna have to relate it to the porn
Starting point is 00:56:18 i watch right now right my wife oh you mean the amateur brunette MILF? It's like, oh, Jesus. Oh, you mean my stepmom? You're like, what the fuck? Shut up. I see a lot of parallels with J.D. Vance and Ron DeSantis as well. They're both people that got gassed up in their own little bubble, but now that they're exposed to a big stage, most people are like, who the fuck is this guy and look how fragile couch like fragile
Starting point is 00:56:49 desantis's masculinity with was weird lifted up boots and shit like always just trying to project this like masculine thing when he wasn't just it just looks the difference is like if he just was like embraced it i don't think people would notice you, you know what I mean? But it's the, it's the attempts to try and like shed who you actually are. That becomes really like, it's really obvious when people are fronting like that. And even when they're trying to do like the, like culture war shit, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:57:16 it comes off as inauthentic. And obviously like what they're saying is repulsive. But to add to that, the insincerity of you're like, dude, what are you doing? Like for what, what are you doing this for? Carmen, did see the thing where jd vance said something about
Starting point is 00:57:29 like he wrote something years ago where he's like and that was the most like i ever felt like a woman i need to find it it's pretty funny but yeah he's had some like a hemorrhoid surgery or something. Is it real? I'm seeing that he's wearing a Julie mask shirt. A Julie mask. It was said it's a blog post from 2005. And again, this is anything about J.D. Vance on Twitter. I'm going to take with a grain of salt, but I'm also going to take with a grain of I want to believe it.
Starting point is 00:58:06 grain of i want to believe it um so it says it tells him a 2005 of an emotional day where he quote felt more like a female than i ever have or will and explains he can't watch zach braff's garden state garden because new jersey because new jersey's landscape is so much like ohio's the music is so relevant to my life right now i'm sorry let go by frou frou that's so funny that like my life right now garden state is like his i saw the tv glow like he heard new slang and was like man i should try on women's clothes like i work with zach braff i should i should ask him how he feels oh yeah you should yeah you should make get it get his get his thoughts on that yeah yeah i was like it's the most I ever felt like a female than I ever will because I watched Gardens again. JD,
Starting point is 00:58:50 you're not tough, man. Just embrace whoever you are because whatever this is, aim it. All right, let's take another break. We'll be right back. And we do have to talk about Lady Hawk of Tua. The Kingdom of Tua. After this. starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week,
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Starting point is 01:00:10 podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
Starting point is 01:01:00 It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
Starting point is 01:01:33 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 01:01:55 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the black effect podcast network iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back hayley welch also i don't know if you've seen how hayley this is hawk two is real name it's her her name is spelled H-A-L-I-E-Y. Classic white spelling. I know a girl who's like, I just don't like that.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Anyway, Hayley Welch, a.k.a. Hawk Tua Lady. She's continuing to forge a career off the back of her viral moment. The comedy career she said she was launching hasn't quite come to fruition. The handful of appearances I've seen were not the best like she would like introduce like an act at a concert and they're like they're like hey it's hayley welch she's like yeah welcome to the stage blah blah blah and everyone's like who the fuck is this like it's really the line yeah exactly one time basically yeah people say the line bart exactly say Exactly. Say it. But that doesn't matter because it's all about making that fucking cash money.
Starting point is 01:03:17 And it's clear that the people she signed with, like that talent deal with, are doing fucking everything they can to start earning off the back of that thing. And let me tell you what she is doing. She filed for trademarks for a betting slash casino type service called Bet on That Bang. What? Barbecue. I thought you said betting. I thought they were going to make like stain proof like betting. I'm like, that's a pretty good deal. Gambling.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Gambling called Bet on That Bang. All right. Barbecues and barbecue sauces and hot sauce is called Hawk Sauce and Hawk Tua Sauce. Oh, my God. I'm pretty sure you can get a Hawk to a sauce for free at any restaurant. As long as you're very rude to the servers and the staff. Yeah. They will give you the Hawk to on there.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Just this name reminds me of Dick flavored spit. And I'm not sure how well that's going to like appeal to mass market. But you know, that being said, like, I mean, if there's like i think there was talk of a mouthwash like that that would yes that works also makes sound filed sun trademarks for sunflower seeds gum and mouthwash under the hot to a name okay yeah i just don't
Starting point is 01:04:18 look you're they're just trying for anything none this shit's going to work because this was all based off a Flamatio joke that she made up. That is a very interesting point that unlike other like failed media, like like Walmart Yodel Boy or something like that, that no one thinks about anymore. Yeah. Like, yeah, this is it was a joke about sucking dick. Just spitting on a dick. I don't know how. But not spitting, like... Talking to Luffy? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I'm just so disgusted. But again... Like recovering from a cold. This is male-brained internet stuff. Like, dude, I fucking love that. That she's like the hawk to a girl and then it ends there because there's nothing else there except that you saw someone say something that made you horny and that's it it's all um did y'all see the bill maher interview wait she had a bill maher
Starting point is 01:05:17 interview on bill maher's podcast which is if you've never seen it it's like the most awkward thing in the fucking world what is it called again it's called club random never seen it it's like the most awkward thing in the fucking world what is it called again it's called club random that's right it's like in his like weird basement yeah it's in his like like fuck dungeon in his like basement it's like him smoking a blunt and he's like so are you menstruating every interview with them. It's terrible. It is so terrible. Club Random sounds like what a 13-year-old calls his parents' basement. That's fucking terrible. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah. Dude, you want to go smoke a joint down in Club Random? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. My mom's not home. All right. Here's a clip of Hayley Welch on Club Random.
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Starting point is 01:06:26 call it your origin story oh my god so insufferable what are you fucking stanley so much he's fucking full of himself clearly wow they were both gassing each other up there she was like yep i know the blade of god came down i was scooped up in god's palm and elevated above all the masses i understand the responsibility i have now bill thank you so much for your sage like wisdom can you teach me to hate muslims like you do also please you know i will i will say on on like a positive note she does seem like she's got some genuine kind of like charm to her yeah for sure whether she's like actually like funny and talented enough to make it through the big leagues,
Starting point is 01:07:08 that's time will tell. Most likely not because these memes come and go. Like you said, it's just a bunch of people trying to make a quick buck and then she'll be waiting tables in a few years. But, you know, I wish her the best. She seems a little charming at least.
Starting point is 01:07:24 The vultures immediately circled. They smelled, the sharks smelled money. They said, here we go. Let's brand a bunch of stuff. But it even for her, like she was working in a spring factory before this. And you can tell, like, I think that was, there is a, like a humility, like a humanity to her that I think like allowed people to be like, oh man, she's like, I like, she's got a sincerity about her. Right. her that i think like allowed people to be like oh man she's like i like she's got a sincerity about her right but yeah the other part i just feel like is being like forced by whoever these people are i think they can sell fucking hawk to a barbecue sauce or whatever because so also the
Starting point is 01:07:55 video is not that funny like i remember when i like i kept seeing hawk to on twitter and i like looked it up to find out the video i was like there's like 10 clips from Drag Race that are funnier than that it's like the final boss of like co-worker memes oh my god it's like peak co-worker humor
Starting point is 01:08:17 literally a video someone shows you that like you'll touch the screen you'll like touch the screen to see how much time is left like you'll touch the screen to see it you'll like touch the screen to see how much time is left janie is pretty funny right wait did you say hawk to you all right hold on hold on wait wait wait you didn't you missed it i gotta rewind i feel bad for her poor friend who was doing the bulk of the talking for most of that like get the whole clip it's like her homegirl that's talking and then she comes in and now she's got chewing gum and hot sauce trademarks that will probably be i don't know
Starting point is 01:08:50 at a useful i don't know urban outfitters near you that's probably where they're going to sell that kind of shit well janie carmen it's been a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist today where can people find you follow you uh and tell us about some social media or other media that you're loving. My app is at the Carmen Laurent on Instagram. It's the only social media I have. I do have a podcast on Patreon. We do one free episode a week. We do one Patreon episode a week.
Starting point is 01:09:19 It's called Tea Time, which is tranny time, but we can't put that in the actual episode and yeah a piece of social media that i've been liking are we doing that right now yeah carmen i'm gonna do one for both of us because i know that both of us enjoyed this a lot okay okay i'm gonna put it in the chat in case you wanna but do y'all remember um miss uh yonmi park oh god the uh north korean expat who just like tells insane lies about north korea yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah can if you would oblige could you play the video that i just heard to chat about this but people are like she didn't
Starting point is 01:09:59 just say hunting poop right yeah tell us about hunting poop so i know in North Korea, literally nothing to throw away, including your poop and pee. So governments give us quota. They are so poor, they cannot even afford the fertilizer. The country makes long missile test. ICBM, they cannot make the fertilizer. So they ask people, give them quota. Like in your family, if you have four people in the family, bring one ton of poop in January.
Starting point is 01:10:29 How is that possible? I mean, does a family of four make one ton of poop each year? No. And you don't even poop once a month if you are starved there. You don't poop at all there, right? So weird. What are they expecting? So that's why we have to go steal poop.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Yeah. And hunting for poop. And thieves, they are poop thieves. And in the black market, they sell poop. So that you can make your quota. So rich people, the government officials, they have money. They go black market and buy the poop and then give me their quota. Otherwise, they're going to get punished.
Starting point is 01:11:03 That is so like letting that sink in is so frigging bizarre right like the idea that you have to collect something that most of us would never want to touch who is this host i know right such a podcast you're like yo so what are they in north korea that's like let me just process this for one it's awesome that's what hawk to a girl should should pivot to she she should be like in kentucky you you gotta eat rats yeah it's like wait i thought you're from tennessee whatever like oh yeah whatever yeah whatever it is yeah she should start making podcast appearances i just love how she immediately goes poop yeah yeah black market there that was poop and pee. Yeah. Black market for poop. That was what I was really enjoying.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Janie, where do they find you? Janiedanger.com. You can keep up with my shows and shit and buy some merch if you want. That's also got a link tree to my Instagram, Janie underscore danger. On Twitter, it's at Wifesucker. But yeah, if you go to my website, there's a link
Starting point is 01:12:03 tree there that has a bunch of stuff like that. I have a new album called East Atlanta Sober. You can check out all my musics on Spotify. You can go to Bandcamp, maybe get some money if you want. Maybe buy it. Listen to it wherever you want. Maybe pull up to the Masquerade's altar stage on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Yeah. If you're an ATL-ian. Yeah, pull up to the Masquerade on Sunday. I got a lot of merch too if you want some. If you're a fan of the Saw franchise as I am, I got some cool shirts for you. They're really comfy. Nice. Yeah, thank you all again for having me.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Of course, it's always a pleasure having the both of you. Justin, thank you so much for joining me today. Where do people find you, follow you, and what's some kind of media you're liking? Of course, you can find me at j con the smith that's j-c-o-n-t-h-e-s-m-i-t-h on instagram only uh and peace and media i've been enjoying uh i'm actually i really liked uh x-men 97 that's been out for a while but it's just so so so well written i don't think it's gotten enough praise outside of the nerd sphere. And I feel like a lot more people should be talking about it.
Starting point is 01:13:08 And then coming up, Batman, Cape Crusader is another animated project that has Matt Reeves. Yeah, it comes out tomorrow, actually, I think. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. August 1st is the first episode. And Batman is a fascist who kidnaps children. But he's my problematic fave. I just, I really love seeing how dark and gritty
Starting point is 01:13:28 that stuff can get. So yeah. Oh, and also another piece of media, X-Ray Vision. I'm sure they'll cover Batman, Caped Crusader on there. My sister produces that show and constantly talks up Carmen and how great she is on the show. And she's all the time in my house. Joelle is like, Oh, I love Carmen.
Starting point is 01:13:45 Thank God she's here. So yeah, check out X-Ray Vision with Rosie Knight and Jason Concepcion. If you like nerd stuff, it's, it's really fun. Listen. And yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Yeah. I think they did a, I think they did a breakdown for each episode or of X-Men 97. No, they did the finale. I want to say. Nice. I haven't,
Starting point is 01:14:03 I haven't gotten a chance to check that out yet. Formative, formative, formative show for me, especially that theme song. I could probably sing the whole thing in my mind. You can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram. Jack and I have the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad boosties.
Starting point is 01:14:20 If you like 90 Day Fiancé, you can catch me on 420 Day Fiancé talking about the entire 90 Day Fian, you can catch me on 420 Day Fiance talking about the entire 90 Day Fiance universe. Let's see. A work of media I like. There have been a lot of white dudes for Kamala. Funny tweets I've seen on Twitter. One is from at Komanechki underscore R that tweeted derailing the white men for Kamala zoom call by asking if anyone here is into Steely Dan.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And another piece of media I've been actually liking is I've been watching, I just started that show supercell on Netflix, that English show about like these black people in the UK or in London specifically who get superpowers suddenly trying to figure out what to do with them. So so yeah that's been what i've been watching you can find us at daily zeitgeist on twitter at the daily zeitgeist on instagram got a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes in our footnotes footnotes thank you carmen understood the assignment uh where we will post off links to
Starting point is 01:15:21 the articles we discussed as well as a song we're going to write out on. And guess what we're writing out on? This wonderful artist has a new album out called East Atlanta Sober. And we are going to write out on the titular track of East Atlanta Sober. You guessed it. East Atlanta Sober by the one and only Janie Danger. Stick around because guess what? We got the rights to this one. So you can hear it like the olden days of the show.
Starting point is 01:15:44 There will be a track at the end so this is east atlanta sober janie danger janie how anything else you'd like to intro this track by saying shit oh fuck first song on the album and uh if you like it you should listen to the rest but i don't know uh i'll say i i went on carmen's podcast recently and she let me yap about the new album for like an hour so if you like it and you want to hear some more like lore about it please listen to that because
Starting point is 01:16:14 yeah when people ask me about my music I will go on forever so let's just let it speak for itself and if you want more lore listen to my recent episode with Carmen perfect so this is East Atlanta's Over by Janie uh the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio so for more podcasts uh check out the iheart radio app apple podcast wherever gets your shows for free that's gonna do it for us this morning we'll be back later today to tell
Starting point is 01:16:36 you what is trending we'll see you then bye Bye. Wall screen over my head There's a cold spot in my bed There's a girl ordering a drink from me That wants me fucking dead Broke needles in my arm Broke strings on my guitar I'd be California sober If California weren't so far From the south And I don't want to
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