The Daily Zeitgeist - Dreaming of a Zeit Christmas 1/7: Kevin Bacon, Shaq and Kobe, Phil Jones, Aubrey Huff, Coachella
Episode Date: January 7, 2020On this edition of Dreaming of a Zeit Christmas Jack and Miles discuss Kevin Bacon the hairdresser, who could beat Shaq and Kobe, Phil Jones getting crossed up on the pitch, Aubrey Huff's racist tweet...s, and the lineups for Coachella and Bonnaroo. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of I'm Dreaming of a Light Christmas.
Timely.
Timely.
My name's Jack O'Brien.
That's Miles Gray.
And we are here to tell you what's trending.
What's trending?
Here in 2020.
Uh-oh.
I'll tell you what's trending.
My notifications.
Uh-oh.
Never turn them off.
Do we even edit those out?
Nah, it doesn't matter.
Don't need to.
Dan always edits them out, but not this time.
Always the good parts he edits out.
Uh, let's talk, Miles, about Kevin Bacon slaying. It doesn't matter. Don't need to. Dan always edits them out, but not this time. Always the good parts he edits out.
Let's talk, Miles, about Kevin Bacon slaying.
At first it said the gruesome slaying of Kevin Bacon,
and I thought something happened to the actor.
Okay.
And it's referring to just a grisly murder of a 26-year-old hairdresser.
Named Kevin Bacon?
Named Kevin Bacon.
Okay. And apparently went missing on christmas i think it's a this is probably going to be a quite a big story considering
it was trending and definitely a huge news in michigan is it is it trending because his name
is kevin bacon look i don't want to you know i don't want to besmirch a person who's lost their
life right but is he trending without that name?
Right.
Well, but there's also people will just start a rumor
even without the death of somebody with the same name.
Yeah.
I think just by virtue of seeing the name Kevin Bacon,
people just click.
I don't know.
We have a love affair with Bacon.
We do.
And Kevin.
And Kevin.
Kevin Bacon, I feel like, is iconic.
One of the most iconic names out there.
Wow.
Yeah.
I said it.
Why are you going out on a limb with that one?
Yeah, I am.
People made fun of me for repeatedly saying iconic.
One of the few tweets I saw over the break was like,
I think Jack thinks anything in the 2010s film was iconic.
There's a difference between iconic movies that stay in the cultural firmament and movies
that don't, like Avatar.
I never said it wasn't Photoshopped.
Shaq is trending.
Why?
People are asking whether Shaq and Kobe would beat any duo in NBA history.
Now, this is an interesting question because it depends on- Right now, Shaq and Kobe are beat any duo in NBA history. Now, this is an interesting question because it depends on whether you're-
Right now, Shaq and Kobe or prime Shaq, prime Kobe?
Right now.
No, yeah.
Prime, which it all comes down to Shaq in his prime.
I don't know that anybody has ever been as dominant or as difficult to stop on a possession-by-possession basis
as Prime Shaq.
Right.
His 1999-2000 season is up there.
I think it's the 11th greatest season according to PER,
and the only person ranked ahead of it who won the championship
was Jordan 1990-91.
So here's the question.
Are we playing two-on-two basketball?
Because if we're playing two-on-two basketball, I think Kobe and Shaq beat anyone.
It's definitely like if I was playing a NBA Jam style game.
Right.
I'm like, that's a good blend of size, speed, and lethality.
Yeah.
Is that a word?
I mean, Kobe, sure.
Like, Kobe's above, you know, he's where he needs to be,
like on the level of the greats.
Like, he's not going to hurt your duo.
But the reason that they would be probably unbeatable is Shaq.
That size of Shaq.
Yeah.
Shaq is like 7'2", and so big.
Are there, I mean, so.
Jordan, I mean, if you're playing five on five and it's just there two of the five players
out there on your team.
These are good.
You got Jordan Pippen.
Like, I think they're going to be impossible to beat.
They got.
You're saying if you're playing fives?
If you're playing fives and you're just adding these two as a two of the five players on
the court.
Oh, oh, oh, sure.
But if you're playing two on two.
Two on two.
No, I think it's a different game.
Shaq and Kobe.
Because Shaq.
Yeah.
Because who the fuck is going to guard Shaq?
Like, that's legitimately what he said.
Because the other duo that's getting brought up in this conversation is LeBron and AD.
And Shaq was like, yeah, I think we'd beat him.
Who's going to guard me?
That's true.
I mean, AD would get in his way.
Right.
I think it would be interesting to see him defend him.
But I think what would be interesting if it's LeBron currently,
because AD's in his prime now,
do we get to have LeBron in his prime and AD in his prime versus them two?
Or it has to be in the era in which they played together. Because Kobe got nastier even after Shaq.
Right, he did.
I think you would still go with Shaq 99-2000 because that's –
Prime Shaq is just completely unstoppable.
Yeah, who going to check me, boo?
Jordan is such a good defender, though.
I think we'd be surprised by how good Jordan would be at fucking with Shaq,
but still, I don't think he's able to stop him.
He's big.
Yeah, he's big.
Yeah.
The game's different now.
You know what would be interesting, though?
All right, now here's a wild card.
Okay.
The Splash Brothers in their prime.
Okay.
Because if you're counting threes.
Yeah, we don't need to play.
Yeah, you let Shaq dunk it, but we're hitting threes every time.
That's true.
Yeah.
I mean, that is a way where you just basically then, like a true tactician, you're nullifying the size
to be like, no, no, you can play with our game.
Yeah. Try and catch
me outside. I think, honestly,
one duo does come to
mind if we're actually thinking competitively
and realistically. Any
duo that could give them
a run for their money would probably
be the 97 Nets with nets with keith van horn and
phil jones is trending let's talk about your sport yeah phil jones i don't know who the
fuck that is he's a defender for manchester united and was just absolutely pretzeled up
twisted up by kevin de bruyne okay so they played a match against their hometown rivals,
Manchester City, Manchester United.
And, you know, Manchester United, look, I'm not going to lie,
Arsenal, we're also going through some shit right now.
We're trying to figure ourselves out because our legendary managers
have left and we have identity issues.
We don't know how we play anymore.
We don't know what to do.
Same thing for United.
But I have to laugh because
they're a rival team and I love to just
feast on the tears of the Red Devils.
And he was just, yes, he was embarrassed
in this match. It brought up a lot of questions
about their defending. They were beaten,
defeated 3-0. Jack, you saw the clip.
I did see the clip. He got crossed up
pretty good. As they were saying basketball, yes.
He sold them one way and said, nah, bro.
These are knockoffs. Sorry.
Was he injured or did
he just look injured?
He went down? Yeah, when he went down.
From my understanding, he may have
been recovering. I don't think
it's an... Look, if you're playing in that match,
it means you're ready to play. Unless the management
is so terrible. I know some people don't like the
manager of United, but
look, it's one of those things that's going to stick in fans' heads.
It reminds me of when Lionel Messi
left Jerome Boateng for dead in the Champions League.
It honestly, I'll show you this clip later,
the way Messi just cuts him down
with just one in-and-out move,
unbelievable the way he just literally disintegrates
like Obi-Wan Kenobi in A New Hope.
Just turns into an empty uniform.
Do people say he put him on ice skates in football?
I mean, I think American fans would
because we're familiar with those terms.
Got it.
Is Messi still good?
Yes.
Yeah.
He's, you know, he's getting, he's what, I think 30 now.
Right.
I mean, which is like in soccer ages, like you peak around 27, 28.
Got it.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's still probably the greatest player.
And then it was, he didn't even score off of it.
It was an own goal.
It was an own goal.
So powerful.
Yeah.
The kick off the goalkeeper was just. uh you hate to see it yeah you hate
to see it unless you don't support manchester united which you love to see man you mate wow
wow look at you proper mank over here yep manko and manko uh let's talk aubrey Huff. Who is Aubrey Huff? I don't know. I thought it might be an actress.
It is a former MLB player who had some muy problematic tweets.
Just like that phrase you used.
Very, very awful.
What did he say?
He said somebody was like, man, we should go over to Iran and kidnap their women because they know how to act or something.
And so let me just pull this up so you can hear word for word the genius that this motherfucker is saying.
The person who he was responding to already deleted his tweet.
But yeah, they basically said,
let's go kidnap their women.
And Aubrey Huff responded,
let's get a flight over and kidnap about 10 each.
We can bring them back here as they fan us
and feed us grapes amongst other things.
And yeah.
And people, there's a lot of responses that are like,
I'll sign up for this draft.
Yep.
Yeah.
It's all very obscure to people who are completely disconnected
from the reality of what the fuck.
Now, surprisingly, big Elizabeth Warren supporter.
Trump 2020, MAGA, baby.
I thought Aubrey Huff was some kind of mashup of Aubrey O'Day from Danity Kane and Julianne Huff.
Yes.
But it's not.
It is not.
Nah.
Yeah, he won't send me a loose one.
And then Bonnaroo 2020 is trending, but we haven't even talked about the Coachella lineup.
Yeah.
We should probably talk about that, and then we can get to Bonnaroo at a later date.
Wait, is this the same?
I'm looking at this lineup, and it looks exactly like Coachella.
Yeah.
No, I just added the Coachella lineup.
I just put the Coachella lineup.
Yeah, I'm like, hold on.
I'm like, Frank Ocean, Rage, Travis Scott, Tom York.
The Coachella lineup is pretty dope, man.
It's thick.
Yes.
With talent.
Rage, Frank Ocean, and Travis Scott.
I'm telling you, we need these Zoomers to catch Rage in an election year.
Right.
And fucking set their heads on fire.
Right.
I mean, oh my God, if they start singing.
Tom York is surprisingly great live.
He's a lot of fun.
Run the Jewels is back.
They're still a thing.
But they're a big festival.
They're at every festival, I would say.
Megan Thee Stallion.
Yes.
That is dope.
And City Girls.
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.
Charlie XCX.
My underrated artist, Carly Rae Jepsen.
Yeah.
And DJ Daniel, too.
He's really upset with me.
He's like, I like her, too.
I don't want to be.
You just like her.
The one year I went to Coachella, Calvin Harris was the best thing I saw just because he happened to go on when the sun was setting and something was peaking.
Yeah, your areolas.
My areolas from my button-down shirt.
Fatboy Slim?
Yeah, he's done it
He's still out here?
Oh yeah, what's his name?
Norman, I think is his real name
But yeah, I caught him like four years ago
Ooh, Denzel Curry?
Hell yeah
Dude, Denzel Curry
That's gonna be a whole mood, a whole vibration
Wow
Dude, 21 Savage would also be interesting
21, 21
21, 21, 21, 21
Lil Lucifer?
Lil Uzi Vert?
Oh, is he yeah the baby i mean
damn also they put it together big shot oh god i mean it's all and joji i think it's like what
the fuck and tonight it's like what the fuck i'm i i can't tell you how many of these like
it's weird coachella a lot of these festivals some years you get one where it's like, oh, my God, it's the one that's made for me.
And then there are other years you're like, I only know the headliners.
Yeah.
And then there are other years that are like a combo.
So you can get a group of people to go.
This time I might just say, fuck everything.
I'll be there and I'll show these kids what a 35-year-old man does.
Yeah.
Speaking of, so looking at the Bonnaroo lineup, their headliners, and also speaking of years that might not.
Yeah, actually.
Tool is one of their headliners.
Oh, yeah, they had a big album.
Lizzo.
Okay.
Tame Impala.
Oh, boy.
I'm there for that.
For Tame Impala.
Miley Cyrus, Bass Nectar.
Whoa, Bass Nectar.
Wow.
Flume, Oysterhead.
Yo, Flume is also going to be at Coachella, too. Oh, really? I mean, play that Tennis Court remix, bass nectar. Wow. Flume, Oysterhead. Yo, Flume is also going to be at Coachella, too.
Oh, really?
I mean, play that Tennis Court remix, my man.
Run the Jewels is going to be at Bonnaroo, too.
Of course.
So you are correct.
Young Thug.
Okay.
Yeah, so there's going to be some dope shit.
And Oysterhead.
Tenacious D.
Yeah.
Oh, DaBaby also.
Vampire Weekend, they're really good live.
Leon Bridges.
Lana Del Rey is going to be at both.
So, yeah. King Izzard, the Lizard Wizard, if you wantges. Lana Del Rey is going to be at both. So, yeah.
King Gizzard, the Lizard Wizard, if you want to catch them too.
Yeah, catch them both places.
Oh, man.
All right.
I've heard Bonnaroo, I always hear, is uncomfortable.
Everybody I've talked to who's gone there say that it's very hot.
Oh, just from a temperature standpoint?
Wet heat.
Yeah.
Well, what are you going to do?
Wet heat is also going to be there? Yeah, wet, wet heat. Yeah, just from a temperature standpoint? Wet heat. Yeah. Well, what are you going to do? Wet heat is also going to be there?
Yeah, wet heat.
Yeah, one of my favorites.
The cover band for hot, hot heat.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, with Coachella, though, too, you can get some disastrous days, too.
There was one year when they started breaking it up into a weekend one and weekend two.
I think it was the first year that had a weekend one and a weekend two.
Weekend one was god-awful, like Like weather was, yeah, it was just terrible.
Yeah. There's wind storms out there that you, you just got to have that, uh,
get that kerchief bro. The kerchief. If you're a dirt devil, you know it. Uh, all right. Well,
that's been, uh, this episode of Zite Christmas. Did we already do that one before the holidays?
All right.
Even if they didn't, I mean, it's still timely.
Yeah, it's still timely.
Especially if you got...
As the Ron Burgundy podcast said,
the one thing that's timely year-round is talk of Christmas.
Never gets old.
That's going to do it for us for today.
We'll be back tomorrow.
Buy those live show tickets.
Yeah, buy the live show tickets.
Check my Twitter.
We're coming to a town near you probably.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
And tomorrow.
We got to do a show in Detroit.
Yeah, we do.
We're doing a big Sean shout-out.
Also, I want a Coney.
What?
Is that?
Oh, you can get Coney's.
You can get Coney's in Detroit also.
Yeah, the Greek diners down there.
You know what I mean?
But also, hey, Cincinnati area.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know how many Zankeggies are out there.
Also, Coney Island.
Yeah, but I like the, you know, the mid-Ohio chili shit.
And you know what?
I'm gold star.
Skyline.
I'm gold star.
Sorry.
Skyline. People say it's trash. Don't care. I also like sog? I'm gold star. Skyline. I'm gold star. Sorry. Skyline.
People say it's trash.
Don't care.
I also like soggy fries.
Try and change my mind.
I will.
I think we're actually debating this on a podcast soon.
Yes.
Sister podcast.
Yeah.
We'll let y'all know about the great fry debate.
But that is happening.
All right, guys.
We'll be back tomorrow with a great episode.
So tune in for that.
Bye-bye.
All right, guys, we'll be back tomorrow with a great episode.
So tune in for that.
Bye-bye.
Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.
I have a proposal for you.
Come up here and document my project.
All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
What was that?
That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous
about what you're doing.
They're just dreams.
Dream Sequence
is a new horror thriller
from Blumhouse Television,
iHeartRadio, and Realm.
Listen to Dream Sequence
on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get
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