The Daily Zeitgeist - Elon Musk And Afghanistan War: Worse Than You Thought 12.12.19
Episode Date: December 12, 2019In episode 534, Jack and special guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by Hella In Your Thirties co-host Muriel Montgomery to discuss Time's 2019 person of the year, the Afghanistan papers, elections pol...ls and Bernie blindness, the creep who keeps running against Maxine Waters, Elon Musk trying to destroy and kill a whistleblower, film critic's top ten lists of 2019, some great holiday films to look forward to, how canceled musicians streaming numbers do, and more!FOOTNOTES: Greta Thunberg, 16, is named Time's 2019 Person of the Year becoming the youngest ever recipient of the title THE AFGHANISTAN PAPERS A secret history of the war AT WAR WITH THE TRUTH My own realization that we were over our heads in Afghanistan came when I interviewed farmers who pretended to set up Taliban camps that the US would then bomb. The farmers would collect the remnants of millions of dollars worth of bombs and sell them for $100 as scrap metal. Who’s Leading The Democratic Primary In The First Four States? That Creep Who Keeps Running Against Maxine Waters Arrested For Stalking :/ When Elon Musk Tried to Destroy a Tesla Whistleblower The previously restricted $TSLA Tripp police report has been released. It's stunning. BEST OF 2019: FILM CRITIC TOP TEN LISTS BEST OF 2019: MUSIC CRITIC TOP TEN LISTS A BEAUTY & THE BEAST CHRISTMAS BEST CHRISTMAS BALL EVER! These Musicians Were 'Canceled,' But People Kept Listening WATCH: Turbulence - Notorious Official Music Video Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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production of iHeartRadio.
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You guys already know you're in for a treat.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say
officially, off the top, fuck the Koch brothers.
Stop.
And fuck Fox News.
Mean.
Wait, what was I saying?
I didn't know this was that kind of show.
It's Thursday, December 12th, 2019.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
I'm your only Jack.
I'm not your only Jack, but I'm a little glowing Jack.
But really, I'm not actually your Jack, but I am.
Jack O'Brien with the Daily Zeitgeist Podcast.
Who watches over you?
Make a little zeitgang in your soul.
That is courtesy of James Cornwattle.
Long walk, baby, long walk.
There's a lot of choice lines.
I'm all about the long walks.
The watch is over.
And I'm thrilled to be joined today
by my special guest co-host, Jamie Loftus.
I'm going to miss it.
OK.
Oh, OK.
Can you feel that?
Oh, no.
Uh-huh.
Hot takes.
Miles isn't here.
Jack is here.
But Miles isn't here.
Miles isn't here.
Miles isn't here. Jack is here. Jamie's here. No, Jamie's not here. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Thank you so much.
Wow.
That was a full-body experience.
That was amazing.
I wrote that one myself.
Did you really?
Yeah.
Miles isn't here.
Jack is here.
But Miles isn't.
That's going to be stuck in all of our heads, I think, going forward. It's easy to switch out, too, next time you isn't here. Jeff is here. But Miles isn't. That's going to be stuck in all of our heads, I think.
It's easy to switch out, too, next time you're not here.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Muriel Montgomery.
Hello.
What's up?
Hello.
I'm so excited to be here. We're so excited to have you.
Thank you for joining us.
Yeah.
I love that song.
Oh, thank you so much.
What song was that?
Well, I had to ask Jack before we went in.
I was like, what's the name of the O-W-A-A band?
Was that the O-W-A-A song?
That's O-W-A-A.
Yeah.
Okay.
What a drum solo.
Guys, I could have kept going
Muriel
How are you doing?
I'm great, very good
You're from the Los Angeles area?
I'm from Seattle
Seattle, okay
Same as yesterday's guest, Nick
Yes, my husband
What?
We met in high school
Oh my goodness, that's adorable I've known him for 20 years My husband. What? Yes. We met in high school. Oh, really?
We did.
Oh, my goodness.
That's adorable.
I've known him for 20 years.
Wow.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
We've been married for, well, we've been together for 14.
Yeah.
This is our first back-to-back spousal guest.
You must make everyone you know feel bad about how enduring and beautiful your love is.
You just have to hang out with us, and then you won't feel bad. how enduring and beautiful your life is you just have to hang out
with us then you won't feel bad you do not like each other no we like each other it's cool it's
cool how long have you been in the los angeles area uh i've been out here for six years all right
yeah so yeah it's official yeah you're an angelino yeah uh all right well we're gonna get to know you
a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
We're talking about Time's Person of the Year, Greta Thunberg.
What a majestic cover.
The best.
Oh, my God.
I stan a queen.
You have to.
Yeah.
And it allows us to say, fuck you, Zuckerberg.
You're not the youngest anymore
dork
now we're going to talk about the Afghanistan
papers we're going to talk about
Bernie blindness and just the state of
the primaries
is that how they would
say it in England if they had
primaries
primaries
that maggot guy primaries primaries the primaries the primaries it is the primaries
yeah
the primaries
that maggot guy
who keeps
challenging
Maxine Waters
who
and like
losing by 50 points
yeah
whoop
Chad
I'm gonna silence
my
computer
I apologize
we get it
you get emails
Jesus Christ
so many emails.
It's just fan mail.
Sorry, that's my fan account.
That's my fan. Didn't mean to leave it open.
JacobRyanFan.gmail.com So anyways, that guy,
we learned more about him.
And then we're going to talk about
Tesla and how they deal with whistleblowers
at Tesla. It is something else. And then we're going to talk about Tesla and how they deal with whistleblowers at Tesla it is
something else and then we're going to talk about
Sag and Golden Globes
we're going to talk about Metacritics
collating the year end
lists of best movies
best albums
and we have a new
record for my favorite Christmas
movie trailer
that I've ever seen.
I can't wait.
We can talk about all of that and plenty more.
But first, Muriel, we'd like to
ask our guest, what's something from your search history
that's revealing about who you are?
Okay. I
went through my search history and the
first thing that popped up was
what is a zaddy?
What is a zaddy? is a zaddy okay any good any what's
what's the word uh the word is i don't feel like anybody knows i was supposed to go do something
um with that information while they were like oh make a list of your favorite
yeah and then i oh that's a fun homework assignment right and i was like oh that'll
be fun this zaddy's from TV.
And so then I was like, okay, great. I'll do that.
Dr. Huxtable.
Right?
Oh, coming in hot.
JackofBrianFan at gmail.com.
Hit me up, gang.
I came up with Jimmy Schmidt from Tommyknockers.
Because that was like a sexual awakening thing for me.
But I don't feel like, apparently they're also supposed to be an actual dad.
Right.
Is that true for art?
I don't think that that's true.
I think that they just have to have dad energy.
And that's kind of like that porn comment, like you just, you know it when you see it.
Oh, interesting.
I think so. I don't know. I think that, I mean, like Alfred Molina, I think is a great example. kind of like that porn comment like you just you know it when you see it that's interesting i think
so i don't know i think that i mean like alfred molina i think is a great example of a daddy who
doesn't have kids actually no he does have oh he has a daughter he loves her so much but he just
has dad energy yeah energy okay i was confused because i'm getting called zaddy but i'm already
a dad so i just didn't know which it was. People are constantly calling me that.
You talk a lot about how it's hard for you.
It's hard because I'm like,
wait, are you calling me Zaddy
because I have dad energy
or because I actually have kids?
Just like in the lobby talking about it,
hoping someone will ask.
We just learned that Billy Eilish's father
may be a Zaddy.
I don't know.
Super producer Anna Hosnier.
Big fan.
He's kind of got a...
I'm a big fan of Anna Hosnier,
but also she's a big fan
of Billy Eilish's father.
Oh, yeah.
It's not for me.
Not for me.
But I get it.
Look it up.
Anna posted it on her Twitter
and it's, what is it?
Sporty Spice t-shirt, David Letterman, which is like, did we lose you?
David Letterman beard vibe.
But David Letterman beard vibe.
Right.
And then a cooler version of David Letterman.
I was like, wait, is David Letterman hot?
And everyone was like, no!
Like, jumped down my throat like I was a fool for asking that question.
Yeah.
Anyway, Zaddy.
Zaddy.
I think we're all smarter on the subject of Zaddy's now.
Thank you.
What is something you think is underrated?
Underrated, what I came up with is that I think making your own turkey stock for gravy,
if you're going to make gravy, making your own stock.
How do you do that?
Because you just make it with bones.
And that's the thing that your gravy tastes like.
Bones?
And I don't think people know that.
Bones?
It tastes like all the good bones, like connective tissue.
Right.
What?
Yeah.
Like gravy is like the biggest thing about it should be the stock.
Anyway, I've been getting fights from people about that.
So much of cooking is
boiling bones it is like yeah yeah my mother-in-law uh is you know has all the old timey korean
recipes and so much of it is just bones boiling on the stovetop for like days yeah it's like a
collagen but then it tastes fucking incredible yeah yeah yeah did not realize that yeah it's like a collagen. But then it tastes fucking incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did not realize that.
Yeah, it's important.
It's important.
Yeah.
Turkey stock is actually underrated, I'd say.
I would agree with that.
Yeah, it's flavorful.
Because people think about chicken stock,
they think about beef stock.
It's right in between.
Right in between the two.
It's right in between.
Nice and salty.
It's cheap to buy all the bones.
Flavorful.
So every time someone has said
there's stock in something said they're stocking something
they're just saying there's bones yeah there's bone juice yeah yeah like no yeah that's what it
is well that's too bad well it can also be i thought i thought it was also like the stuff
that gets baked off when you're like baking a so that's part of it yeah yeah like definitely
like all the drippings which is a gross? Why don't people call about the,
why don't people talk more often about the drippings?
One bowl of your finest bone drippings.
Amazing.
If you roast a chicken and you want like a treat,
if you take the drippings in the fat.
And just shoot it back.
Put it in a bowl and keep it in your fridge
and then use that fat to cook things in and it's
delicious right yeah like in a pan yeah like as instead of butter or whatever you eat normally
yeah uh it congeals yeah it does yeah wow so many delicious words yeah congealing dripping
uh what is something you think is overrated Lana Del Rey's cover of what the hell
is that song I wrote it down Norman fucking Rockwell
oh oh oh doing time the sublime
cover that was like
are you kidding me
yeah it sucks yeah well speaking of my husband
that was on this show that's like his
go to like nine times a day
song oh really
the turn it up song
really like just being an up song and i've been like really like just being
an awesome partner and like totally like tolerating it yeah but it's like is your husband a zaddy that
sounds like something a zaddy would that's a zaddy opinion i mean he's not a dad he's a zaddy
but he has the zaddy i feel like he's got that zing yeah yeah my dad will do that sometimes where
like he will find an artist
like a female artist covering a
song that's for dudes and then being like
I'm a feminist
that's really
fantastic no I think his motivation
is he just thinks it's the best song ever
yeah he just keeps going like
it goes so hard
I love that album and do not like that song.
I'm like, why is this happening in the middle of this album?
It's really just...
Overreaching.
Yeah.
Yeah, it just seems like it's a funny idea.
It was like, oh, what if I covered this shit song,
but made it all Lana Del Rey-ish.
Yeah.
And yeah, it's just not...
Yeah.
It's not it.
It reminds me of the type of thing that would happen
if you were like surrounded by people
who told you your ideas were awesome.
Yeah.
It was just like, oh yeah.
Yeah, you'll make a great album
with just a shitty song right in the middle of it.
It's like, God, you're really,
your instincts were right on for most of this.
Sorry, Nick.
Not it, buddy.
What is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Okay.
A lot of this is anecdotal, but I think I have a lot of evidence.
I don't think that anybody goes to the dentist regularly.
Oh.
I don't think that they do.
And I'm saying because recently I'm afraid of the dentist regularly. Oh. I don't think that they do. And I'm saying,
because I recently,
I'm afraid of the dentist.
Yeah.
And so I take,
I try to take very good care
of my teeth
and I never go.
And I hadn't gone
for like six years
and I had all this like
weird shame about it.
So,
and then I finally like,
I got insurance this year.
I waited a whole year.
Right.
I,
I feel like really
like power,
empowered by it. Yeah yeah and like conquering
this thing and i like i have been talking about it because i'm trying to like process like oh i
feel kind of like i'm lame for not going whatever right every adult that i talked to is like oh yeah
i haven't been in 15 years yeah i feel like there's there was something written about that
not too long ago too about like how the sixmonth checkup is kind of like a cash-grab scam.
Is it?
With doctors?
I'm fairly sure.
I'll have to double-check.
But I think that there was a recent well-regarded article about how you should go maybe once a year, possibly even once every two years.
But once every six months is kind of like a cash-grab kind of thing.
Right.
Are we talking dental or medical?
Dental.
Okay, dental.
I don't think medical.
Every six months?
Is that what they say?
That's what they told me.
That's what I did as a kid.
As a kid, wait, why would it matter more?
I'm just realizing that my assumption has always been,
yeah, but kids' teeth are more important than adult teeth,
and that's not true at all.
No, they got the disposable ones.
Yeah, they have disposable teeth.
They just pop out.
Kids basically have nature's
dentures. Yeah. My teeth were
so clean that he told me
I almost didn't even need to have a cleaning. Do you floss?
Are you a person who flosses? I floss.
I floss. You have incredible teeth.
Thank you. Wonderful teeth.
But I
would probably have said that people who floss regularly are a myth at one point in my life.
But then I worked with Soren Bowie and Daniel O'Brien, and they had competitive dental checkups and flossing.
It was really bad.
But they were like, oh, she said my teeth were like
the cleanest she's ever seen.
And they'd be like,
whoa,
that's funny
because she told me the same thing.
Wait,
do they have the same dentist?
They had the same dentist,
yeah.
Oh my God.
They like recommended,
one recommended a dentist
to the other
and then they got really competitive.
That's like my nightmare.
Like literally,
they took my x-rays
and I cried.
Right.
I like can't.
No.
Yeah.
That's great. How are your head bones? head bones all good yeah they're like amazing I brushed off
I aggressively brushed off a little bit
of my gum in one place so they were like
you have to chill out with how amazing
you are you're too excited
yeah I got too excited
so you are all about dental hygiene but
not all about the regular
dental checkups.
I mean, I just saying that I think that people tell you that we there's a myth.
I think the myth is that we all do it like it's a reasonable expectation that we all go two times a year and that everyone does that.
And literally everyone I talk to doesn't do that.
No one does that.
And in fact, I would go even further if someone said that they did. I'd be like, hmm, weird, like weird that you would lie about that. No one does it. And in fact, I would go even further. If someone said that they did, I'd
be like, hmm, weird. Weird that you
would lie about that? Yeah.
Or weird that you do do that.
Yeah, that's a power play right there.
I'm like, weird.
Trying to figure out why you feel the need
to lie. I feel like the second I did that,
though, one of my teeth would just fall out.
I would be like, okay, cool.
That's a thing that can happen.
Like people just like crack a tooth.
Oh, I have dreams about it all the time.
Well, I have dreams that my teeth fall out.
Like they just like start falling out.
That's a stress dream.
That's like, yeah, that's classic.
Terrible.
I have a dream that I'm constantly losing a baby.
Oh my God.
Just a baby?
Yeah.
Scary.
It's in a house and I'm like, I can't remember which house it's in.
Left my baby in a house.
The worst.
Oh man.
I have that reality actually.
Constantly misplace my baby.
I didn't want to trigger you, but it sounds like something.
Always misplacing my baby.
Let's talk about...
Where is my baby?
Way too much pep for that statement.
Am I right, guys?
Where did I leave my baby?
Let's talk about Greta Thunberg.
Yay!
Times Person of the Year.
Yay!
You're the youngest ever recipient. I. Times person of the year. Yay. And you're the youngest ever recipient.
I love her outfit on the cover.
There's nothing special about her outfit.
It's not like a bad outfit.
It's just what you would be wearing if you're a person who doesn't think about really what you wear on a day when you were getting dressed like any other ordinary day.
There was no photo shoot or anything just like yeah and it's kind of funny because it's like i think like i i really uh
dan and i were talking about this earlier like i really like how she's always like don't idolize me
yeah uh and then everyone's like no queen we have no choice but to stand and so it's like she kind
of has to do like you're not gonna turn down times person of so it's like she kind of has to do, like you're not going to turn down
Time's Person of the Year,
but she still kind of like does it super on her terms.
You can see Time is kind of pushing back
by being like,
but what if the waves are cresting over you, Queen?
And she's like, I'm wearing an XL hoodie.
I borrowed it from my parents.
Leave me alone.
I have a protest to get to.
Yes.
Is it true somebody made a statue of her out of tires? Is that true? and leave me alone. I have a protest to get to. Yes. Oh, wow.
Is it true somebody made a statue of her out of tires?
Is that true?
Or was somebody joking about that?
Maybe that was a Twitter joke that I took seriously.
I feel like that would be more of like an aggression
than like an honoring thing.
I mean, the more she tells people not to stand,
the more people cannot stop erecting monuments to her.
Yes. No, it's good good i think it is great and the picture is i think the cover is like funny because it seems like the two parties
are going for different things yeah yeah yeah yeah no it's they had to like trick her into posing for
this photograph right she's like it's just a tight shot right it's not you're not going to do the
waves on the cliff.
And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
She also looks like she's about eight years old.
Yeah.
She looks very, very tiny.
Did you have any people that you wanted to be the person of the year?
I'm great with this.
I'm good with this too.
I'm rarely good with time's person of the year.
I'm good with this.
They fuck it up so often.
But yeah yeah this seems
this is you can't argue with it although there's awesome people saying baby yoda should be person
of the year what is what am i missing what is that even is it thank you what is that from i haven't
i haven't seen it i'm not going to see it is it from that like a t the new TV show? The Mandalorian. From Star Wars Helmet.
Star Wars Helmet, the TV show.
Yeah. People really like Star Wars Helmet. They love
to talk about it. I feel like I basically,
I don't know, Star Wars Helmet and
there's a baby and he's got to save the baby.
Amy Sedaris shows up.
I think that's everything that's happened.
That's spoiler alert.
You gave it all away, though.
Wow.
They put an actor I have a huge crush on where I can't see him the whole time.
Who's that?
Pedro Pascal.
Oh, yeah.
They put him like, what?
What are you guys doing?
Hello.
Anyways, yeah.
Okay.
Has no one seen it?
No.
No, no, no. has watched like a couple episodes and
likes it a lot uh so he would be uh defending it but he's not here i love it well yeah as the song
stated miles is not here yeah that's all he has said is uh he loves the helmet well love the
helmet you gotta love the helmet what's so good about uh just the helmet the helmet is really incredible
uh but time does manage to fuck up the cover by uh it's their time person of the year is
greta thunberg the power of youth oh my god it's so gross time i know god i the power of youth that's like give me your blood no thank you
give me your blood
do you think the photographer asked
Greta Thunberg for a vial of her blood
out of curiosity
the life force of young people
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You didn't figure it out?
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The Afghanistan Papers.
This is like our, I've heard it called our Pentagon Papers.
I've heard it called our Pentagon Papers.
The Pentagon Papers was like the papers that were leaked that revealed that the U.S. government didn't know
what the fuck they were doing in Vietnam the whole time
and were just lying to everybody.
That's actually a part of the story of the war in Vietnam
that I feel like has been sort of written out.
We just know about the protests, but there was a lot of the government just coming
back and being like, no, no, we're making progress.
We're making progress.
We're making progress.
And like the next thing you know, we've been there like seven years.
And that war was way deadlier.
There's a million North Vietnamese people killed, 700,000 South Vietnamese
and 50,000 American soldiers in Vietnam.
But the numbers on these are still really shocking.
Still horrifying, yes.
So in Afghanistan, 2,300 US soldiers have been killed,
20,000 wounded, 140,000 Afghan lives lost.
And the war has been like from the start basically the military leaders
have been like wait why are we here who who are we fighting like the Taliban kind of but then
the Taliban is also friends with the people who are supposed to be our allies, who are supposed to be helping build a country.
And it's just a fucking mess.
And then they keep coming back and being like,
we're really turning a corner, guys.
We're going to turn a corner here.
It's happening.
It's so absurd that it's been, what, 18 years now, right?
How long has it been?
Yeah, 18 years.
Yeah, 18 years.
Wow.
And these papers and all the details are very upsetting.
I'm glad that they are coming out if only to remind people that we are still at war.
I feel like there's like some people that just truly it's not widely covered enough
and they don't think about it.
And so like these numbers,
I mean,
even to me,
they were like,
holy shit.
Like I knew we were at war, but the details are so horrifying and they're so brutally
undercovered.
Yes.
So the people who were like reporting back to the media that we were making progress
behind the scenes, basically from the start, just saying, we don't know what the fuck we're
doing.
Some of the stories from Afghanistan that made it out, like after these papers were released, the New York Times reporter
Nicholas Kristof, or I guess he's now a New York Times opinion columnist, said he knew we were in
over our heads in Afghanistan when he found out that farmers in Afghanistan would set up fake
Taliban training grounds.
So the U.S. would bomb those and then the farmers would go out and collect the exploded U.S. munitions, like these, you know, millions of dollars of weapons that the U.S. was dropping and sell it for scrap metal.
It was basically like they were just like finding ways to get scrap metal.
And the U.S. military was fooled by these like dioramas that these farmers had created.
Isn't that?
Wow.
There was also a translator who worked with the U.S. military.
And the U.S. military came to rely on this translator uh he was just
like really well liked and friendly and the u.s military just was not interested in teaching
anybody how to speak the language uh and so but this person uh would add like a 95 percent fee
on top of any payment that went between the military and the people he was
translating for like the the people in afghanistan who uh the military was paying he would just like
add hundreds of dollars on top of it and they said after 18 years of war like he is still
interpreting for the military or was up until very recently he's one of the richest people in afghanistan just strictly because just because of like the u.s military is just yeah oh it's so and it's it's
frustrating because it's like a lot of it is just like they're inefficient they're counting on
people not thinking about it and not remembering and it's like people are still getting rich off
of it like yeah all the all the spoils of war boys yeah exactly there's millionaires and billionaires
who are getting rich off of the weapons off of you know all sorts of different things uh in in
the u.s as well so uh you know it's it's fucked up so disturbing yeah i mean most of this stuff
is stuff like i hadn't heard yeah right i'm'm like, I mean, I'm aware of the war, but definitely not the specifics.
Yeah.
I think it's just coming out now that everybody involved, like top to bottom was like, yeah, this is not working at all.
I mean, I'm glad that everyone needs to be kind of reconfronted with it, too, because it's been a fucking minute since we've been asked to like consider right um what's going on yeah yeah um let's talk about the
2020 primary uh primaries um so 538 is about to release their like overall model, which was actually fairly good at predicting, you know,
the 2016 election or at least gave Trump the biggest chance of anybody who was tracking
like the New York Times was like 99% chance Hillary wins.
Yeah.
And he was like, no, actually, she has like a 60% chance.
Nate Silver, Mr. Um, Actually himself.
Yeah, Mr. Um, Actually was Um, Actually-ing it.
Yup.
But a couple of things.
So they did a podcast where they talked about,
like gave some of the takeaways from the model.
And, you know, it's kind of, it's not that surprising.
Like Biden is still been just somewhat unshakable.
Pete Buttigieg's sort of surge is real.
Warren falling seems to be real, according to their polling.
And Bernie is just like rock solid, too, in second place behind Biden. And somebody pointed out, they were like, yeah, Bernie seems to be getting very little coverage
for how well he's doing.
And they were like, yeah, we actually talked to the guy
who tracks that for us.
And he said he thought it was like his candidacy
was being undercovered.
And then Nate Silver came in and was like,
no, that's not true.
I feel like he's spending a lot of time with ABC News people because like he is just coming in with the
super mainstream media takes that uh you know well it doesn't matter like it's just any anything
where there's a gray area he's going to to give, it's going to go against Bernie, essentially.
Which is frustrating, too, because that was once his value for how annoying I find Nate Silver to be in his demeanor.
He used to be at least a solid perspective alternative, and now he's just kind of been rolled into like you're not really getting much.
Right.
I mean, I think I think his he like really has a blind spot when it comes to populism
in the primaries for whatever reason, because this is what he did with Trump, too.
He was like, because Trump's outside of the typical political model and he was like not
taken seriously by the mainstream media ahead of the primaries like at this stage he was like yeah he basically said trump wasn't going to win the nomination even
though he was like way up in all these polls right uh so i'm surprised that he's like falling
into that pattern again uh but i'm not because i'm sure he doesn't like get confronted with his
failures all right it's yeah i was like i doubt anyone's ever told him he's wrong.
And besides like on Twitter where he has everyone muted, right?
Right.
And also it doesn't seem like he is the guy to consider anything but numbers.
Like national mood feelings doesn't seem to be where he shines.
Yeah, I think that's fairly accurate.
The fact that Bernie is still so undercover it's but
it's it's bizarre i mean it's like and you know why what the motivation behind that could be
but i feel like it's so i mean maybe i'm in my liberal bubble right but it feels like a lot of
people have been talking about how undercover it is and it's not like this oh a few people have
observed it's like a lot of people.
Right.
I mean, even like the,
like watching the debates,
I was like shocked with just how much coverage people get in terms of just
being on the camera.
Like,
like the last two we were watching,
it was like Tulsi Gabbard gets this insane amount of time and like Yang
gets nothing,
you know,
like some of that's obviously like debate rules,
but it's also like,
yeah,
it's just,
it just seems like whatever is like hot, like, you know, like, I don't know, like a fun news headline.
Yeah.
My friend's dad the other day was like, I think I'm into Andrew Yang now.
And then and then and then and then he but then he like paused for a couple seconds.
He was like, actually, I think I just want a thousand dollars.
I mean, this is on with his life i like really committed you know like to trying to like pay attention to the primaries early this year in a way that i hadn't like in my life like i've always like
kind of waited until way later in the season and like it's been fascinating but i i love yang i've
been like so excited oh you're yang gang i love yang he was one of my zaddies i put it on your zaddy list i love him wow yeah i mean i think a lot of the
stuff he talks there's just like like just even just like he it took him talking to like for me
to just google like what a vat tax is and like how that could solve like you know people hiding
wealth and like tax shelters and stuff you know kind of, again, it's like the dentist thing where you're, like,
I think everybody knows what a VAT tax is and, like, how, like, the universal income,
like, mitigates that and all that kind of stuff.
But then you start talking about it and it's like, I always think I'm the dumbest person.
And then I'm like, oh, yeah, like, nobody kind of, I don't know.
I think it's really interesting.
Yeah.
I mean, Bernie's, I mean, I've been writing for the same candidate for a minute, but it's
like, I mean, the only thing that you can sort of hope for there in terms of Bernie
is that like the grassroots support will hold up and it's been like still pick.
I mean, it's picking up momentum in spite of not being covered.
Are you a Bernie supporter?
I'm a Bernie supporter.
You're a Bernie bro?
I'm a Bernie supporter I'm a Bernie supporter you're a Bernie you're a Bernie bro I'm a Bernie supporter
yeah I think that like I think actually his support is kind of outside of the liberal bubble
like I think yeah I think the liberal like people who are in the liberal bubble are part of the
mainstream media and are like just assuming that he's going to go away eventually.
But like Bernie's supporters are actually people who are,
you know,
blue collar and not actually like in that class necessarily.
Yeah.
It's definitely built since 2016.
I totally understood the,
the bro critique in 2016,
but it's grown.
Yeah.
It has grown a lot.
It's much more diverse.
Well, like now that everyone's
premiums are going up like we're all like shopping for health insurance for next year i think literally
everybody the difference is now we're all dying yeah exactly everything is so much worse yeah yeah
i do wonder biden's solidness i haven't really heard this thesis that much but i wonder how much
of biden remaining popular like the media
is always like oh it's just they've heard of him they associate him with Obama but like people are
smarter than that like I think it might have something to do with the fact that he's been
everywhere in the news because Trump is trying to like cheat against him. So that almost like, I think people are taking what their version of electability is into,
into account more than the media is giving them credit for.
And so they're just like looking at Biden and they're like, well,
Trump is scared of him.
So he's probably electable.
So like that is keep making it harder for other people to shake loose his supporters because
yeah he's just all over the place he's a safe bet candidate baby he could die and still be in first
place yeah it's arguably happening yeah like his popularity with black voters 538 was saying that
they like him because they think he can win. And they're like black voters have traditionally been in a position where they need to make
alliances and be shrewd because they're inherently like coming from behind and never getting
the benefit of the doubt.
So they are, you know, supporting Biden because it just seems like he's the safer bet, especially
older black voters.
Meanwhile, Buttigieg remains the family guy candidate
have to remind everyone every time Seth MacFarlane is voting for Pete Buttigieg interpret freely
but he is surging like in uh in the early states because he has like he's the actual billionaire
candidate like if you look at yeah because of the fans of the orville are making their way over but he's actually he has the most billionaire donors of any candidate and he is you
know he can spend his money like in those early states uh and yeah i think i do think that now
that he is being targeted a little bit apparently he's been been released from his NDA from his McKinsey days.
So we'll learn a little bit more about him.
I'm curious.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Me too.
Tesla.
Let's talk about another cool dude.
Nikola Tesla.
No,
Elon Musk.
The current one.
This is our view.
I love it.
So this story has been out since March,
but they just declassified parts of the police report.
And so there was a guy who worked at a Tesla plant and he was in charge of safety.
And he started, you know, pointing out that there was an issue with some Tesla batteries that they could have like runaway meltdowns and nobody within Tesla.
It really reminds me, it's what I was speculating about with Nate Silver
and not getting any negative feedback, and it's what was happening in Afghanistan
and it's happening in Tesla.
It's like when you're in an organization where negative feedback is discouraged,
you don't get negative feedback, so you don't have an actual
like idea of what's actually happening like in afghanistan the military leaders were
basically like they knew that they that the heads of the military didn't want anybody to
like and didn't want the media to find out how fucked everything was. So they were just leaving positive reports as somebody would leave Afghanistan.
And then the people would show up and be like, oh, this is completely fucked.
But then they couldn't, if it was on their watch, they didn't want to go from positive report to negative report.
Right, yeah.
Everybody's just covering their own ass. And so anyways, Elon Musk was so fond of getting negative feedback that he completely ignored it.
The guy eventually was like, this could be a real problem.
And there are safety issues in this factory.
So he became a whistleblower and leaked documents to a couple of reporters.
And Elon Musk found out about that.
Mr. Musk did not like it.
He did not like it.
Did not like it.
So one of the things they did, and this is where the police report comes into the story,
is that they told the police that this whistleblower was armed and dangerous and threatening to
come in and shoot up the factory.
He didn't own any guns.
Own.
So the police went to his house, assuming he was armed and dangerous.
And fortunately, he had already been having back and forth with Elon Musk and knew this guy was really pissed at him.
And also, he was a vindictive billionaire.
And so he was hiding.
He wasn't at home.
He had had his wife and kids fly out to...
Good for him.
That's the kind of thing when you hear these things,
you're like, I would leave.
I'm not going to stay here.
Yeah, so that's what he did.
He was at a casino just hiding out.
All right.
Smart.
And when the police finally caught up to him
he was weeping and was just like my life has been completely ruined they were like okay are you
armed and he's like i don't own any guns i don't have guns like that's and basically like so there's
this head of security uh at for tesla who's like elon musk's body man
when like he was the person who was like the main person that the police were interacting with at
tesla he was the one who was like yeah you got to go find him he's gonna like shoot up the place and
like you know getting the cops to basically be ready to like shoot this guy on sight yeah and the police like got a call
from him after they went to his house and he wasn't there and the police were like maybe we
should just call him and they called him and he was like yeah i'm at this casino come meet me i'm
uh not dangerous and then they got a call from elon musk's guy and he was like uh did you get
him yet oh no and the cops were like no we actually found
out where he is we're going to meet with him he's like he's at the nugget casino and musk is a loser
the cops were like wait how did you know that and the guy literally said little birds sing. Oh, my God. No, are you kidding?
Because he's a bad guy in the movie.
What a fucking moron.
I just, any, I haven't, like, this is the least surprising.
Like, it's so goofy.
I know.
Yeah, that's, like, the weirdest thing about it.
What a goofy way to ruin a man's life.
Right.
Well, also, like, it's just so obvious.
It's like, Elon Musk could afford somebody who's a little more discreet to be his his body man he's like did you get him yeah did you get did you get him there's still a lot of like
he found out he was at the nugget there's still like a lot of elon musk apologist culture going
on where like everyone's like oh yeah he's a bad guy he's a bad guy and then like whatever
fucking red like what is it supercar comes out and they're like actually i mean you gotta hand
it to him he has a lot of good ideas i'm like can we just say
fuck this guy he's a loser he needs to be told to his face social network style that he's a loser
right uh oh it's like he walked around with loose uh sapphires in his i think it was sapphires
some like precious jewel he walked around with those loose in his pockets growing up he was like unhinged
the dad was like owned a mr blood essentially a diamond mine in south africa and like so he was
like insanely wealthy growing up he's like the most privileged person ever grew up with like
just carrying around gems loose in his pockets like fucking someone needs to drop kick this guy
he's just oh i mean and just next time tesla time Tesla comes out with a fucking atrocious thing and
they want your money, just remember what a fucking loser this man is and don't give him
your money.
I know nothing about Elon Musk.
Yeah.
I'm just like, this is all, I'm learning so much today.
So he's the coolest.
I don't know if you saw the video, but he smokes weed.
So chill.
But I feel like five years ago everyone was like
you know proto zaddy
pretty cool I'm like you have fallen
for this man's botoxed lies
yeah
a gross person
I know
somebody who showed up at a house
that he was at like staying at
and like he didn't
answer the door at first and when he finally
came to the door uh with his girlfriend he was in a towel and he was like sorry we were fucking
yeah so there's not a lot of examples where i would say hey let's listen to azalea banks but
her account of being at their house i think she was telling the truth yeah like so
yeah that is who my source is by the way yeah it was like if you you gotta source azalea
there if you haven't read the azalea account of what goes on with elon musk and grimes you gotta
it's just good reading how did she get inside his house she's friends with grimes his uh his
girlfriend cool his cool is x now oh did they get
back together after they were supposedly i'm pretty sure they're still together oh okay i think she
was like wait a second what about all those blood diamonds um i'm not sure you know grimes she's
like an electronic musician who's yeah very talented she makes good music not i mean but
we can't stand her anymore no no definitely not two days ago
Elon Musk takes Grimes
for a drive
in the Cybertruck
how romantic
very cool
what's the over under
on Elon Musk
demanding roadhead
in the Cybertruck
oh gosh
a million percent
yeah
a million percent
did you see him
demoing the unbreakable glass
yeah that was great
that was my favorite thing
God bless that man
very satisfying
oh fuck I think you literally said that that was great that was my favorite god bless that satisfying uh oh fuck i think
so great um just do a mash-up of that and azalea banks
anyway just quick check in with omar navarro he is the guy who keeps running against maxine waters
became sort of uh famous in mega circles because he like runs against her and it's very
easy to become famous in those circles because you know there's only like one
media outlet and you just do things that are outrageous and trigger libs and
people you know start to love you anyways he leveraged his campaigns
against waters to become sort of a
prominent voice on the far right uh and now he is getting he just got arrested for stalking his ex
uh he sounds like a real charmer what a sweetie yeah uh he offered her money to marry him
threatened to leak her relatives addresses to left-wing anti-fascists
and threatened her pets.
Not her pets.
Cool guy.
She's also like a mega
relationship expert.
What?
There's a boutique industry
we haven't seen.
It's inevitable, I guess.
What's her angle?
Do you know?
I don't.
Like, what her ideal relationship would be.
Is it masks-based?
Yeah, masks.
Masks.
But yeah, he threatened to pay $25,000
to have her killed.
If she wouldn't get back together with him,
sleep with him,
or at the very least, drop the civil court restraining order against him.
Well, that's horrifying top to bottom.
Yeah.
So anyways.
That's wild.
Jesus.
His response was, men in this country get treated unjustly too.
You have to acknowledge that.
Just because a woman says something doesn't mean it's true.
There's police reports.
Yeah, there's some police reports. He should start a youtube channel probably woman police yeah yeah oh i want to know what he thinks
about uh the star wars movie sounds like an insightful guy i know he sounds like he has
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So, Metacritic,
who is my, I stand Metacritic, fuck Rotten Tomatoes.
Wow. Metacritic for life.
Okay, King. Is that
too much? Probably too strong. I just use Metacritic instead of Rot Okay, Kane. Is that too much? Probably too strong.
I just use Metacritic instead of Rotten Tomatoes. Why are you sweating?
Because I'm always sweating.
So Metacritic, you know, they assign a number value to reviews as opposed to just a thumbs up or thumbs down.
So it's more precise.
But they also do a thing at the end of the year where they collate all the critics' top 10 lists.
And then you get a certain number of points for if you're first place, a certain number for second place.
And then just being on the list, you get another amount of points.
So it's just a good way of keeping track of what is the most acclaimed movie of the year.
So Parasite is number one.
Have you guys seen Parasite? Oh, it's so good.
Seen it thrice.
Oh, three times really?
It's so good. Yes, I love it so much.
It's so good. It's like the best
movie on class commentary I've ever seen.
Yes.
Marriage Story?
As we discussed,
you couldn't pay me to watch it.
Did anyone watch it? I just tried to watch it. So it's like, who didn't even watch it?
I just tried to watch it like last night.
I went to this really bitchy coffee place yesterday
and there were posters for it everywhere.
And that's everything you need to know.
Wait, there's posters for it?
They have some weird partnership
with this bitchy coffee place near my house.
Weird.
Yeah.
It's like really, I wanted to watch it
based on the billboards
yeah
I don't know
I was like
yeah it looks great
and I like the trailer
and it was the dumbest thing
I was so mad
really
I thought it was like
really really bad
like unwatchably bad
I left it on for
my dog and my cat
when I went out
the other day
and I came back
and they were fucking
Sonny loved it
so you know it
he's like Adam Driver is literally everything and they were fucking... Sonny loved it, so you know it.
He's like, Adam Driver is literally everything.
Oh my God, I'm exhausted.
You're so mean to Sonny when you describe him a personality.
All his texts are terrible.
I mean, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is number three.
The Irishman, number four.
That one was also
really stupid.
I was like,
do we need a reminder
that most movie critics
are still white guys?
Right.
Yeah.
Well, I mean,
I was also like,
I don't know if this is,
I mean, it's whatever,
but they're all like
the greatest Italian actors
of all time.
Right.
And this Italian director
that's called the Irishman.
Yeah.
And he's a super Irish dude.
Yeah.
And then you go in and I was like, so I saw the billboard.
Frank Sheehan.
Yeah, I saw the billboard.
Joe Pesci.
Mr. Pasta Meatball himself.
I looked it up on Wikipedia to be like,
they call him the Irishman as a nickname?
No.
And he's like culturally like a very Irishman.
And I thought, okay, well, maybe, you know,
this is going to be just an amazing performance.
And then it's just like straight out of Godfather 2.
Yeah, but they gave him blue eyes.
Which is just like...
I still haven't seen it,
but Who Weekly has been doing a great bit
where they keep playing Anna Paquin's one line.
Oh my God.
Like her six words that she gets to say
and like all the reviews that were written about it
that were like, well well her character is silence
you're like nice try
literally no sense in the movie
and she's like super
sexy as a little child
like the whole thing is like she's like
compelling to all of the other gangsters
so like I think the idea is like
there is a weird thing
they're all like fawning over her
but yeah it's like silence is compelling or it's something that you draw.
Like they keep like paying attention to.
But it's like that's a weird cheat code to use.
I'll probably watch it though.
Yeah.
I haven't seen it yet.
It's I don't even know if it's worth watching.
But I guess I'm curious.
It's really long, right?
It's really long.
It's so long.
I don't know.
Joe Pesci, I thought, was wonderful. Yeah. Joe Pesci's long. That's why Joe Pesci, I thought, was wonderful.
Yeah, Joe Pesci's great.
Do you like Joe Pesci?
I like Joe Pesci, and I learned at a recent Bechdelcast live episode
that Joe Pesci is releasing music still as recently as this year.
Wow.
He released something called, I think it's called My Baby,
and it's horrific.
You got to listen.
Oh, dear.
It's good.
What else is there?
There's Little Women.
I'm excited for Uncut Gems.
I am too.
Did you see Good Time?
Yes.
I loved Good Time.
I loved Good Time.
Yeah, I just saw that over the weekend.
Yeah, it's really, really good.
Is Dolomite on this list?
My name is Dolomite.
It is not.
Not?
Did you guys see that?
I did not.
I did.
I thought it was really fun.
I thought it was a blast. I thought it was a blast.
I'm like, Midsommar's on this list, but not Dolomite?
Right.
I think your thesis on who film critics are might have something to do with all of that.
Yeah.
By the way, Joe Pesci's story that's kind of going viral right now is just a tweet from
Rod Blackhurst, who said, in 1992, I was 12.
My dad and I were in the Newark airport.
I saw Joe Pesci
and recognized him from home alone.
I went up to him to ask for his autograph.
Joe asked me who my favorite actor was.
I said he was.
He handed me a crisp $100 bill
and said, that's the right answer, kid.
Do you think Joe Pesci
has an artistic residency
at the Newark airport?
Is that why he was there?
It just seems like where he would just be.
He's so great.
I like Joe Pesci a lot.
What else we've got?
We've got Little Women.
We've got, oh, I haven't seen Portrait of a Lady on Fire.
The Farewell is great.
Knives Out.
Oh, Portrait of a Lady on Fire was the trailer before I saw Parasite.
So you know it's good.
It looked like the most European movie ever.
Yeah, it totally does.
It's just like two women on an island.
One of them is a painter, and they're just like...
Well, they're running through the moor, like just hills at night in the wind with long white dresses on.
Bluffs. movies are terrible oh
the the it actually looked really good yeah and then my my my boyfriend was really like when he
saw the trailer for 1917 he was like we should go see it i was like are you are you sick in your
mind there's which one is what what is it it's another movie about World War One. Wait, there's another?
There's not that many movies about World War One.
There's too many movies about
World Wars. This is my drag me
Reddit page. I don't care.
It's there. I don't know.
I'm actually going to be dragging you in the comments
of this episode, actually.
Lay off World War One, Jamie.
Jamie, you'll have to drag me.
No, I want my Rasputin movie.
That's the World War I movie I want.
I don't need to see another movie about the Allies, okay?
I get it.
They won.
I think that looks really good.
Maybe me and Isaac can go,
or me and your boyfriend can go see it together.
No, name drop.
Sorry.
Yeah, you and Isaac should go.
And then albums.
Lana Del Rey is the number one album.
Oh, really?
According to this list.
That surprises me.
Specifically, they say, because of her cover of Sublime.
I'm dead.
Are you joking?
Yeah, I am joking.
But she is the number one album.
Why?
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds is number two.
Again.
White guy reviewers.
Old white guys. Angel Olsen and FKA Twigs. I'm on board with both of those. Yeah Seeds is number two. Again, old white guys.
Angel Olsen and FKA Twigs.
I'm on board with both of those.
It is a very woman, singer-songwriter heavy list.
It's pretty dope.
Billy Eilish is here.
Tyler Creator is here.
I like that album.
Yeah, me too.
Igor?
I don't hate this list.
Yeah, I don't either.
I don't hate this list. Yeah, I don't either. I don't hate either list.
Lists of good things are good, generally.
I get excited about them.
Do you guys remember when Lana Del Rey was on SNL for the first time 10 years ago?
So people thought that was the worst performance ever.
I thought it was so funnily bad.
Did you love it?
I thought it was fine.
She kept rolling her eyes.
Oh, yeah.
She was like, I'm so over
myself on stage.
Yeah, she seemed not self
confident, but I didn't. No, I felt
for her. I felt
good. Did you guys see that she's dating a
cop? That's the one thing. It was like 50.
Everyone's just like,
we stand. And then everyone's like,
now we say it in a whisper
we still stand
but we whisper it now
yeah
it's like we stand
that album's so good
it's so good
but why is she
it's about a cop
it's about a cop
it's literally about
with a crew cut
no less
the best album of the year
is about fucking a cop
are you kidding me
cruel
well from
really great culture
to
really really great culture uh we we so sophie lichterman
uh super producer oh my gosh shared with us uh so ion tv that that channel ion she said that she
uses it primarily to watch svu reruns right yeah. Yeah. But they make their own original Christmas movies.
And she drew our attention to two
that are among the most wonderful trailers
for anything I've ever seen.
They're so exciting.
Yeah.
So one is called A Christmas Beauty and the Beast.
So the cast is Leah Pipes, Ryan Kelly, Rob Rocco,
who I thought was from like a 90s movie,
but it turns out he is just the boyfriend with mysterious eyes
from the TJ Tuggers episode of I Think You Should Leave.
Listen, he's getting work.
The man's getting work. Hi, I'm you should leave. Listen, he's getting work. The man's getting work.
Hi, I'm Ginger Holliday.
She's the internet's
trendiest Christmas princess.
Not a thing.
We are making
homemade hair dye
with peppermint
and holly berries.
But when an irritating
accident occurs
An irritating accident.
Her head is on fire.
It's going to take
maybe eight weeks to heal.
This bummed out people
Okay, so yeah.
She puts hair dye in, her hair gets pink, and then there's a crackling sound
and it burns a little part of her scalp right next to her hair.
Like so little that her hair covers it to the naked eye.
Yes, easily.
Yes.
Easily covers it.
Signs offline and her popularity plummets.
Will people still love me when they know how I look?
I know this isn't easy.
Her agent thinks he has the answer.
You haven't posted in over a month, so we're going to show them the real reason why.
My face.
Not your face.
Hashtag Christmas fairy tale. Wait, what's with all the hearts?
You're in love.
I'm in love?
Wait, who am I in love with?
Whoa.
Who is this person telling her she's in love?
Whoa.
Sorry, that was her agent and
also tj tugger's guy oh god i got it who looks like an agent sorry this is so complex it's really
so uh yeah sorry to catch you guys up uh so she because of her hideous uh disfigurement aka tiny
little burn uh under her hairline uh she stopped posting for a month. Oh, no. Her agent was like,
we gotta come up with a reason
you haven't been posting for a month.
And in walks some guy.
Are you saying a boyfriend?
Let's say you have a boyfriend.
Are you saying a boyfriend?
And what happened?
It's just an allergic reaction to some hair dye.
It's not that bad.
Will this fictional fairy tale
become a romantic
reality an all-new holiday movie a beauty and the beast christmas i love this uh it is yeah
the fact that he says what happened and it's like not even a noticeable thing no it's like the smallest like it could just be a slight
like blemish right and he goes oh my god what happened i honestly couldn't figure out what was
going on for so i think solid minute i think we are to believe that in this movie is she because
of this small accident is the beast right he is the beauty because he's the other one.
Yes.
Right.
And that the lesson of the movie is that he'll learn to love her in spite of her temporary
burn.
Yes.
Yes.
That's brave.
But it's not going to heal for like eight weeks.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Wait.
But then there isn't time, just in time for a Valentine's Day sequel.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, but she's not a Valentine's Day influencer, Jamie.
She's a Christmas influencer.
She's the internet's most trendy Christmas influencer.
I mean, relatable.
Right.
Relatable.
That's a thing?
Yes.
Maybe?
Yes.
Yeah, probably.
It's gotta be.
It's gotta be.
That was the conversation that went on in the writer's room for this.
That's a thing?
Yeah.
Christmas influencer?
A hundred percent.
And her name is Ginger Holiday?
Yeah.
I mean, if that's your name, then you kind of have, I mean, what choice do you have?
Right.
Her name is Ginger Holiday.
First of all, cruel parents.
Second of all, manifest destiny.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And then the other one is called best christmas ball ever and we
don't have time to go into it but let's just say that christmas ball is it's gonna be good it's
gonna be real good uh let's talk about canceling male artists oh yes okay so this is an interesting
um story that i found in jezebelbel or the Muse to be more specific
that's kind of just a study of
I mean like just I mean they've been
doing this series on like what are
the actual ramifications of cancel culture
if any and just kind of examining
what are the actual real life consequences
when these sorts of stories come
out. It focuses specifically on
male musicians who have been cancelled
to varying
degrees this year. And you can check out all the specific numbers on the Muse, but it basically
just indicates that quote unquote canceling someone, as I think we've already kind of come
to learn, doesn't usually have that much of an effect on their ability to make a living. It
sometimes changes it a little bit where, you know, like Louis C.K. doesn't play stadium that much of an effect on their ability to make a living it sometimes changes it a little bit where you know like louis ck doesn't play stadiums anymore now he just
sells out slightly smaller right still has millions of dollars t.j miller's in a new movie
the whole bit but as it pertains to these um to musicians they do some really i mean michael
jackson untouched yeah by uh leaving neverland when it comes up and
and i mean kind of unsurprisingly um the musicians get a spike when the documentaries or or um
researches is released and then they kind of just plateau usually a little higher than they were
before same goes for uh r kelly really after surviving r kelly
that surprises me because that was like i literally i was a before i just loved his music
forever when i was younger and then like i knew it was bad i knew it was bad and then saw the
documentary and literally deleted all i was right listen to it because his music is it's about children inextricably
linked to
like what
his crimes were
no it's like
then you start hearing
like the metaphors
are intended
I mean it's just like
it's for 15 year old girls
he had an album
called the chocolate factory
yeah
it's all like
like candy
and dinosaur metaphors
and like
jungles and space
but you can see
when the documentary
is released
there's a huge spike in R.lly streams then uh the week after comes out it plummets but it goes
basically back to where it was before the documentary is crazy came out and it's i mean
it's like a frustrating study to look at because it just sort of betrays how people behave when no one is watching, you know?
And while it's like, it's such an amazing and like important thing that all these stories are heard, it's kind of discouraging to see that it doesn't have that much of an effect
on these men's ability to, I mean, it seems like Ryan Adams took a hit.
So that's something.
But they're, I mean, they have a lot of, they have, they study like 10 different musicians.
Takashi 869, XX, how many X's were there?
Triple X.
Triple X.
So you can just see basically as things happen, are their streaming numbers affected?
The answer is usually no. Right. Which you know do better everyone this is like the one example of like artists not
making jack shit from streaming that is positive right yeah right so but it is also like this
explains donald trump like it totally does absolutely. We can talk till there's
no more oxygen in the world
about how awful he is and people
are just like, oh, yeah, Donald Trump.
That guy. I'm like, tune in to him.
I know who he is. Yeah, now I know who he
is even more.
So, yeah.
Sorry, everyone.
Oh, yeah.
Muriel, it's been a pleasure having you.
Thank you.
It's been so much fun and also very educational.
All right.
Yeah, you learned about that Christmas special.
I did.
Not to use peppermint hair dye.
I never will.
I think we all learned something.
And to know that my life is completely devalued if I get a small burn.
Small.
Superficial.
Maybe someone will learn to love you.
Like doubtful.
If they're hired to.
As long as they're being paid handsomely.
Gotta get an agent.
It's not even that bad.
Oh shit, baby.
This is what you were talking about?
It's like not even bad.
I'm barely puking.
Merely, where can people find you you can find me uh on instagram for uh at hella in your 30s is my podcast
that is my husband and i do a podcast together it's called hell in your 30s
we just deal with navigating this dystopian uh world that we live in by doing things like getting dental insurance for the first time because we can afford it this year and things like that.
Right.
Yeah.
So it's very fun.
So that's what I would check out.
And is there a tweet or some act of social media you've been enjoying?
I did.
I love my dad on Twitter.
Zaddy?
Yeah.
No, yeah. Don't you love Zaddy? You're number one Zaddy. Hello. zaddy your number one zaddy
he's my number one zaddy
he's just very
I don't know he's just the best his picture is of him
on a fake
motorcycle from a fair I went to
a long time ago that they let you
pose in front of to take pictures so it looks like
he's on a hog
riding this motorcycle.
But it's fake.
All right.
His tweet, this is from two days ago.
He said,
We already know Trump is a freak.
He's really freaking out now.
This cat is scrambling down his rabbit hole big time.
PT Barnum and Boss Tweed trying to make a comeback.
Wake up, America. Makes you think, Dad. P.T. Barnum and Boss Tweed trying to make a comeback wake up America
makes you think dad
makes you think dad
makes you think dad
should be like a character
social media
makes you think dad
just liberal parents
having takes
makes you think
Jamie where can people find you you can find me on twitter.com having takes I don't know it makes you think yeah I love it so much he's great at that
Jamie where can people
find you
you can find me
on twitter.com
at jamieloptishelp
instagram
jamiechristsuperstar
listen to the Bechdelcast
my urine mental
still isn't on
apple podcast
so I guess you can't
listen to it yet
which is so frustrating
and also
I wanted to shout out
all my Michigan heads
who volunteered
to go to Shelbyville Michigan and pick up a Chuck E. Cheese sign for me.
There was like 20 different people who offered to do it.
And I honestly still might hit some of you up.
Thank you, Zeitgang.
And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
There is.
This is a tweet from my bud, Cullen crawford uh it just made me laugh a lot it says
uh bob eiger is pronounced the same way as bony bear
bobby
he's at hello cullen everything he tweets is the funniest thing in the world. But Bobey Ger really got me.
That's my favorite tweet.
Maybe of the year.
A couple tweets I've been enjoying.
I enjoyed Miles' tweet saying,
this is so dope to be mentioned alongside some legends.
Shouts to Zeitgang for making the show worth doing every damn day.
Yeah.
Because we got mentioned in the Vulture This Year in Comedy podcast.
Yeah, we did.
As the podcast with the most episodes per podcast.
Show me the line.
Yeah.
So a little backhand, but love it.
Branson Reese tweeted, I'm sorry, but you got to be kidding me with Marge Simpson's hair.
And I liked that.
Saying what we're all thinking.
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We Ride Out On.
And do you have one?
No.
Wait.
Oh.
Wait.
No.
Yeah.
Take it away.
So producer Ana Hosnia is going to bring the heat with the song Reclamation.
I'm in the middle of composing for Sandy University.
I haven't been listening to a lot of music.
Wait.
You're composing a score for Sandy University?
I'm actually writing lyrics this year.
Nice.
Are you really?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
And this is a track from our...
No, I'm just joking.
I'm that person you're describing.
No, I've been...
My boyfriend loves reggae, so I listen to a lot of reggae because I'm not allowed to
touch the dial.
The dial? What am I, 80 years old?
What radio station is that?
I'm allowed to choose as well, kind of.
So this song has been stuck in my head for a while,
and it's by Turbulence, and it's called Notorious.
And maybe if you guys are all reggae heads out there,
you know, maybe you've heard this song.
Yeah, it's great.
I recommend the original seven inch mix because it just goes and goes and goes and never stops.
And that's all you ever want from a reggae track, you know, never ending.
So enjoy that.
Boobie Gare.
This is a beautiful song by Boobie Gare.
All right. This is a beautiful song by Boobie Gare Boobie Gare Alright
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