The Daily Zeitgeist - Episode 1: Weinstein Attacks Women, Cuba "Attacks" Diplomats 10.09.17

Episode Date: October 9, 2017

In the first episode, Jack & Miles have on guest Edgar Momplaisir to discuss the attacks on Cuba with guest expert professor Mark Fenster, & more. Plus producer Anna Hossnieh comes on to talk ...Harvey Weinstein's history of sexual assault. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:38 So up top, we're going to ask you a couple getting to know you questions. Icebreakers, if you will. What was the last thing that you Googled? The last i googled was i ain't no fucking baby i'm a man 22 year old i have googled that myself yeah that is uh that's one of kid marrow's uh catchphrases right yeah i didn't understand it well someone was playing the video miles was playing the video and i was like what is this i I Googled it myself. Right. And it's a baby talking like an adult.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Ain't no fucking baby. He's a man. 22 years old. But we're still not clear if he has, like, Gary Coleman disease or if he is an actual baby. I think it's a baby. You think it's a baby whose parents just paid him to be, like, cool? Or he's just that? Yeah, I guess because babies are the only people that get mad when you call them a baby.
Starting point is 00:03:28 That's true. I'm not a baby. You're a baby. There's another video of that. It's, like, African Idol. Like, it's, like, American Idol but in Africa. And it's, like, a very small guy who looks like a baby. And he, like, sings.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And he's a very bad singer. And he gets booted off. And he throws a temper tantrum. It's probably one of the funniest videos on the internet. All right. Wait, but was he a baby and he like sings and he's a very bad singer and he gets booted off and he throws a temper tantrum it's probably one of the funniest videos on the internet all right wait but was he a baby he's a man he's like 40 and he looks like a baby all right and then uh one thing you think is overrated one thing you think is underrated uh overrated being vegan uh under wait what do you mean overrated it It's definitely overrated, man. Like, let's stop it, all right? Oh, cool, you poop better, but everything else you do is trash.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Like, the food is trash. We can never find somewhere to eat, Alejandro. So, like, I'm just saying, like, being a vegan is just whack. It's completely whack. Being a vegetarian is enough, I think. Yeah. Like, if you're going to, like, that's a strong enough. Or don't eat red meat.
Starting point is 00:04:25 We get it. Eat chicken and everything else. Pescatarian. Yeah. Chicken. Pescatarian. Yeah. Whatever that is.
Starting point is 00:04:31 And then underrated, I got to go with James Blunt, who sang... Edgar has the saddest, whitest taste in music. The musical taste of a really sad 23-year-old white dude. Or a 16-year-old white girl. Right. All right, so story's going on right now. We've got Pence leaving an Indianapolis Colts game
Starting point is 00:04:59 because the 49ers knelt because that was actually apparently a staged thing. He knew he was going to leave. He knew that the players were going to kneel and the president asked him ahead of time to leave uh so and also as as i think you were pointing out edgar like the secret service is not great with like improvised movements no you can't just be like yo i'm gonna dip real quick yeah they went whoa you're like number two in command we got like all kinds of ships and trucks that need to be moved and reporters were told like hey you guys shouldn't leave like somebody's gonna be leaving the game
Starting point is 00:05:34 early wink right uh and allegedly colin kaepernick has said that he's going to stand for the anthem if he gets picked up by a team but we don't really have any detail on why he's saying that or if he's saying that. Well, if it actually has not already been debunked. Yeah, CBS Sports afterwards said that actually wasn't discussed. So I think that reporter who was talking to Jim Brown actually kind of took liberties in saying maybe that was him trying to just totally create his own narrative. So anyways, this is what the right-wing media, this is what Fox News and Drudge is going to be talking about for the next week. I just don't think there's much of a story there other than that.
Starting point is 00:06:12 They've successfully redefined the argument to be about whether people respect the flag or not and not about whether police are killing innocent black people. I also don't think that Mike Pence was at that game. That's such a great conspiracy theory that Edgar has. killing innocent black people. I also don't think that Mike Pence was at that game. I know. That's such a great conspiracy theory that Edgar has. Because of the photo. Like, he used the same photo in his tweets. He used a three-year-old photo. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:36 They used a photograph of him saluting the flag. I think it's just lazy photo journalism where they were like, let's find a photo of Mike Pence at a Colts game. And just put a different Instagram filter on it. Right. The exposures are different. They are different. They were like, let's find a photo of Mike Pence at a Colts game. And yeah. And just put a different Instagram filter on it. Right. The exposures are different. They are different exposures. Even though that selfie with him and mother or his wife.
Starting point is 00:06:54 He calls her mother. Yeah, exactly. I mean, they look slightly different, but it's the exact same image, just with a little bit of a filter on it. Yeah. But again, I just, Richard Spencer took another little white polo shirt, khaki marks to Charlottesville. Again, let's not talk about that. Let's talk about my faked protest about going to the NFL game.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Like, we're just starting to see what the priorities are. Again, you know, that's what's more outrageous, that he knew he was going to leave the Niners game than the return of the white trashists to Charlottesville. So, yeah, there was apparently a, like, Charlottesville Part 2 that was more of a flash mob. They, like, did it in the cover of Night. Nobody was really aware that it was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And then they talked a lot of shit after they were all gone. It was a big deal. Like, Richard Spencer brought out his suit. Like, he was in a nice suit for it. That dude always were all gone. It was a big deal. Like, Richard Spencer brought out his suit. Like, he was in a nice suit for it. That dude always gets dressed up. It was a tan suit. It was a khaki suit. I think.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Oh, wow. That's better than tan. I think he wanted to keep the theme. Yeah. Khaki. It's like a khaki-colored suit. Khaki power. But they were even saying, apparently, I don't know, I wasn't there, but some reports saying
Starting point is 00:08:02 that they were actually, along with their other, like, you will not replace us type shit. They're all saying Russia is our friend. Yeah. Like, what's the. They're just going real far in that direction. What are you doing there now? Like, what are you about at this point? And then just the only other story that we're not going to talk about is Blade Runner apparently tanked at the box office.
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Starting point is 00:09:10 You bitch. All right. So the fan stories we're going to talk about today are the Cuban attack on diplomats and Harvey Weinstein. Because we are not, uh, like the late night TV shows. We are not scared of Harvey Weinstein's wrath. We are going to,
Starting point is 00:09:30 we're going to talk about it and acknowledge that, uh, yeah, he might've done a few bad things once or twice, but I mean, he seems sorry, right? I'm not right here.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I'm ending my film career before it even starts. I'm not even interested in this. He quoted four 44. I think that that's enough see that was that was the most annoying thing about it was that not the worst thing but the thing that annoyed me jack that was the worst part about the worst thing about the harvey weinstein story was the way that he appropriated like all these things that i like like hating trump i enjoy being frustrated at trump he was like i'm gonna use this down time
Starting point is 00:10:04 to like go take trump down and i was like, I'm going to use this downtime to like go take Trump down. And I was like, man, don't make that like, don't fucking ruin that for us. And then he like quoted a 444 lyric. So we're going to get to all that later on. But first up, we are going to talk about the attack on U.S. diplomats in Cuba. I am doing air quotes when I say attack. And you can't see that because I'm good at podcasting. My girlfriend uses those air quotes when she says love. Aw, Edgar.
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Starting point is 00:14:23 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So our first story is titled, What the Fuck is Happening in Cuba, you guys? Basically, if Tom Clancy ever experimented with bath salts, this is the story that he would have written. So we are joined by Mark Fenster, who is the Cone, Wagner, Nugent, Hazuri and Roth tort professor at the Levin College of Law at the University of Florida. Did I get all that correct? You did. And you did it better than I could. You did, and you did it better than I could.
Starting point is 00:15:10 And you are also the author of Conspiracy Theories, Colon Secrecy, and Power in American Culture. Thank you so much for joining us. It's my pleasure. Thanks for inviting me. We wanted to talk to you about this somewhat crazy story about what's going on with U.S. diplomats in Cuba, because it's fairly confusing. I have a very specific, I guess you could call it a conspiracy theory, just like a hunch on this story. And I should put it out there just up front that I believe a lot of crazy things. I believe that, uh, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck didn't write goodwill hunting and that, and that Matt Damon's entire like film Uvra,
Starting point is 00:15:53 uh, following that is all about the fact that he's like covering up for that fact, because it's like all about him being a fraud and stuff. Uh, so I, I believe lots of crazy shit, Mark.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Um, but I, I happen to not think that these, are actually taking place. But why don't we just kind of go through the details first, and then you can tell me why I'm crazy, if indeed I am. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to do that, but let's give it a shot. All right. So basically, it began with 21 diplomats reporting hearing loss, loss of sleep, headaches, and cognitive difficulties. This is going back, I think, till last year. And these are US diplomats in Cuba. And obviously, this is in the immediate aftermath of a thawing of relations between Cuba and the United States. The attacks were said to have begun under Obama. So it's not just a
Starting point is 00:16:55 thing that's happening under the Trump administration. But the Trump administration has reacted by basically saying they're going to pull, I think, most of their diplomats out of Cuba. And basically that they're going to use this as an opportunity to kind of revert the relations between Cuba and the United States back to where they were prior to Obama sort of opening things up a little bit. prior to Obama sort of opening things up a little bit. The details of the attacks are kind of what's strange because they're all somewhat different, but the few that I've heard details about, people wake up in the middle of the night and they hear a loud noise.
Starting point is 00:17:41 One of the diplomats say that when they sat up in bed, it went away, but then when they laid back down, the loud noise. One of the diplomats say that when they sat up in bed, it went away. But then when they laid back down, like the loud noise came back and they looked around and couldn't find the source of the noise, which kind of I've read sort of DARPA studies where they're looking into using basically sound lasers and which would be things that can project noise directly into someone's ear, but nobody else around you can hear them. So it seems like something that could be possible, but I guess the thing that's weird to me is that the attacks all seem to be different. The people who are experts on sonic weaponry seem to indicate that this doesn't match with any known type of weapon.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Or, I mean, basically they're saying it's physically impossible based on what we know about physics. The symptoms, like the things that are happening to the diplomats, all seem to be fairly, I don't know, diffuse and not very consistent. And I read somebody who is an expert on psychosomatic illnesses listing a very similar list of symptoms and being like, yeah, those are all symptoms of just getting older. Just like being one day older than you were the day before um so i don't know what what's everybody else think i want to hear my honest thoughts yes i think that they all went to a whack-ass concert together and are suffering from like you know like hearing loss but they don't want to say that they went to this whack-ass concert so they're all coming up and blaming cuba yeah there's crazy diplomats they have a swing of nightlife in havana it was like a justin bieber concert it was nickelback it was nickelback wow
Starting point is 00:19:36 you have specifics and everything well so what's the what's the theory so this was just an accident as a consequence of the concert yeah for me that's theory. My theory is that like they went to this whack ass concert and now they're having this problem, but they don't want anyone to know that they're at the Nickelback concert. So they'd rather blame Cuba and say that Cuba's attacking them. But wait, but your Jack, your theory is that there were no weapons involved in this is just mass hysteria, mass hallucination. Or maybe something happened in one specific instance where it was like somebody was poisoned or I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:10 So something happened. They were attacked in some way. And then that was like sort of the seed crystal that started everybody else, like the whole group dynamic from kicking off. But yeah, I just don't think that the cubans or anybody being like sheltered by the cubans have these secret weapons that uh physics doesn't know about and doesn't know are possible that are uh secretly sort of tapping into diplomats brains so kind of like the salem witch trials like where like one person started acting out and then all the girls started acting yeah exactly and there's there's a study like a historical study of cases of mass hysteria
Starting point is 00:20:51 and they find that uh even though you tend to hear about them happening to like school children that's just because it's a lot of like-minded people in a closed environment under a lot of stress and that's basically the only thing that that most cases of mass hysteria have in common. It's not like intelligence or age or any of those things. Well, I have to say that you guys have come up with the most boring explanations for this. Oh, damn. The shitty employee and the psychosomatic crazy employees is just really boring. I came up with any number of much more interesting theories.
Starting point is 00:21:31 All right. Let's hear this. Which isn't to say that I believe in them, but one would be the U.S. did it. That has been floated by, I've noticed, a Cuban columnist who argued this, saying that this was the false flag that would allow for a coming invasion by the United States and by the Trump administration. Raul Castro's daughter said something equivalent by arguing that this was all just a lie. So either the U.S. did it using any of the potential means, whether through sonic weaponry or poisons or some combination thereof, or that it's all just bullshit. But it is a it will be the in either instance, it will be the excuse that the imperialist Trump will use to take back the island. the imperialist Trump will use to take back the island. And then the other theory is more the bank shot theory. Well, I mean, I suppose you could say that the Cubans did it, right?
Starting point is 00:22:32 But it seems less and less likely that that's the case. First of all, the extent to which the Russians are supporting the Cuban government has obviously dropped down considerably in the last 25 years. So Cuban access to high-tech weaponry seems pretty small. So unless they're utilizing Cold War stuff, stuff that they have left over, which no one could detect because it's so incredibly old. It's like they're crazy-looking cars. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Isn't Cuba notoriously behind the times in technology? Behind the times and therefore ahead of the times right right because everyone wants to go to cuba because their cars all look like old matchbox cars and they're really only the cute and only the cubans can fix them so maybe there's some incredibly old 1960s zero weaponry yeah i learned about that in the documentary the fate of the furious we call it fast eight. this point if the U.S. had serious evidence suggesting that Cuba had done it, that there would be no reason for the Trump administration to hide that. So it could be a rogue element of the Cuban intelligence services who would prefer to be at war with the Americans who would do that.
Starting point is 00:24:02 But then you still fold back into the question of where they're getting the technology to do this. But then suppose it's someone else, suppose it's Iran, suppose it's Russia, who just want to fuck with us in some way and fuck with the Cubans. These are all interesting theories. And, you know, I don't think that there's any evidence of any of this. What's been disappointing to me is the extent to which alex jones has not been on top of this uh i go to info wars and i look up cuba and there's fuck all nothing on there and that's disappointing alex jones that's how big this thing is that's how big it is alex jones doesn't even know well there's a you know there's an easy theory behind that which is that alex jones is in cahoots with Trump. So that would explain it. So here's a false flag that Alex Jones isn't letting on about because he's rooting on Trump's taking back Cuba.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I got a question for you, Professor. I'll see if I have an answer. All right. Cool, cool, cool. So I like that second theory that like they're using this old technology that like, you know, like we're not on. theory that like they're using this old technology that like you know like we're not on so then could it possibly be that it's a trap to invite the fbi over because i might not be an expert on conspiracy theories but i'm an expert on movies and that seems like a very very easy trick to be like oh yeah just come check it out and then they trap our best fbi agents they do a manchurian candidate on them yeah yes and then they send those dudes back and then we're all
Starting point is 00:25:25 like that that's good all right so are they cloned them with some you know newfangled cuban technology that they've come up with yeah one that we couldn't detect uh did the fbi go yeah no i think they went down i think they went three times i think they've been they were you know allowed in three times to do a series of investigations you know obviously this is all top secret so we don't know what they came up with. But all that we know is that they didn't come up with an answer that has been made public. Or that's what they want us to think.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Right. Or that's what they want us to think. All right. But we don't have any ideas on how this could be possible or why. It just seems like they don't really have any sort of coherent explanation for for what's happening here which there's clearly like a political motivation for doing that because uh like getting closer to cuba was an obama thing and therefore it is the opposite of a trump thing uh and they're they're using it as an excuse to, you know, get further away from Cuba.
Starting point is 00:26:27 So I don't know. It just seems like if they could possibly put together a coherent story, the fact that there's just nothing makes me think that, I don't know, there's lots of crazy stories of, you know, mass hysteria, that when you look at the stories at this stage, at least, like when you're in the thick of all the physical, uh, symptoms and illnesses look, uh, absolutely like a physical thing is going on. And then there's just, there's just nothing. That is definitely the, the, the,
Starting point is 00:26:59 probably the neatest explanation is the psychosomatic one that one person got sick and then everyone else followed. But this is a lot of people at this point, at different times, under different conditions. I mean, it's certainly possible. And I mean, it sounds as though the reports have the medical examination of these folks after they get stateside is pretty convincing that some of the problems are permanent damage. But, you know, you're right. If it's in the range of symptoms that someone would have as a matter of just growing old, then, you know, that's certainly possible. That is boring, but it is possible.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Yeah, I read one of the injuries. Like when people are pointing to there being like specific concrete uh symptoms they're like it is mild traumatic brain injury which i i've never heard of like i've specifically heard people who specialize in brain uh traumatic brain injury saying there's no such thing as like a mild concussion could you possibly get one from banging your head too loud at perhaps a very bad Canadian rock concert? I mean, I think that's where I was. I think there's one that's all over. I just want to say there is an article from the BBC.
Starting point is 00:28:13 The German doctors did say headbanging can cause brain injury. So we're getting something here. Interesting now, Doc? I'm not ruling anything out at this point. doc i'm not ruling anything out at this point i'd like i'd like to i'd like to know if nickelback was playing or the cuban equivalent of nickelback was playing uh at that time i know didn't the rolling stones went down there um and did a concert sometime last summer something like that fairly recently uh but you know i think the Nickelback theory is a better theory. There's one other conspiracy theory I just kind of wanted to bring up because I know it's become a pretty contentious issue amongst young people. And that is that Katy Perry is in fact,
Starting point is 00:28:55 JonBenet Ramsey. And I was curious if you felt if that's something you had heard about as you've, you know, written on conspiracy theories, I see the evidence there. It's very clear that Katy Perry looks a lot like JonBenet Ramsey at the time. But who's to know if Katy Perry is actually Katy Perry? It's an excellent question. I told you guys. I told you. This stuff is bigger than everything. Yeah, I don't know that one. Are you a Beyonce truther?
Starting point is 00:29:25 Do you believe Beyonce actually gave birth to Blue Ivy? Or where do you fall on that? I fall off on that. Okay. I have one. I have one. There's one that Three 6 Mafia won the Oscar for best song as an elaborate prank. On who?
Starting point is 00:29:42 On black people. That's not very nice. Perpetrated by Harvey Weinstein. Who knows? All right. Well, thank you so much for taking the time to join us. I'm sure we've made you slightly stupider by just in talking to us.
Starting point is 00:30:02 No, I feel much more informed. Great. I'm sure you do. All right. Thanks so much. We'll talking to us. No, I feel much more informed. Great. I'm sure you do. All right. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you soon. It was my pleasure.
Starting point is 00:30:10 All right. So, I mean, I think Edgar's theory wins, hands down. Nickelback. Thank you, man. I mean, we don't talk about how detrimental their music is on a whole. And to U.S.-Cuban relations in particular. You've always said that. What's crazy is that Nickelback is actually one of my guilty pleasure bands.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Me too. I can off top, I can do a few songs for you. Me too. Full lyrics, full mode. What is that thing that he, like his singing voice, what's that called? It's like, oh. It's like Yarling, I think I've heard it described as. Yeah, Yarling.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Yeah, that's terrible, man. You guys should be ashamed of yourself. He also kind of smack talked us a little bit. Yeah, he did talk some shit. And now that he's no longer on the phone, let's complain about that. Yeah. What the fuck was that guy's deal? Let's take Mark down a couple pegs.
Starting point is 00:30:57 No, he has that very specific conspiracy theory thing where, like, you can already tell what a conspiracy theorist is going to want to believe they're going to want to believe it was a false flag that it was like the u.s government doing like a false flag thing uh i just want to say i i think mark's theories are boring okay his theories are boring not mine uh not yours is that like there's nothing to see here folks it's kind of just blown out of proportion right right i mean i just you know the thing i got out of it was i think we are one step closer to actually figuring out that Katy Perry is JonBenét Ramsey. Right. Because he danced around that one.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah. He got off the phone real quick after that. Yeah. You could tell somebody from, I don't know, whatever record label was like, don't you know about that? Almost definitely. Although I wish I did bring up the Illuminati thing. With Beyonce? Yeah. I think that'll be another deep dive we can do with him later. Because that's a, you know. almost definitely although i wish i did bring up the illuminati thing with beyonce yeah i think that'll be another deep dive we can do with him later because that's a you know my theory is that
Starting point is 00:31:51 uh she gave birth to solange she gave birth to look it up bro look it up i mean look it up what does that mean um all right we're gonna keep following following the Cuba story as I am slowly proven right over the coming months. But we want to move on to another big story going on right now. Some would call it a conspiracy. The Harvey Weinstein story, which the liberal media doesn't want us to talk about. But that's how it's being covered on the right wing. want us to talk about but uh that's how it's being covered on the right wing uh we we do at the daily zeitgeist monitor like the drudge report and uh breitbart to see what they're saying about the world and what they're saying right now uh like one of their main threads is that you know late night comedians and snl don't have the balls to make fun of harvey weinstein
Starting point is 00:32:43 for being a rapist, which I would argue it's just like not a very funny thing to joke about. But our Harvey Weinstein expert and also just our Harvey Weinstein, like as a as a team, she fills that role for us. She is producer extraordinaire Anna Hosnier, and she's going to tell us what she's been hearing about the Harvey Weinstein story when we come back after these messages. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017,
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Starting point is 00:36:56 Anna Hosnia, welcome to The Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you. Yeah, welcome. Thank you. You've been in here the whole time, haven't you? I never leave. She's a liar, you guys. She acts like she just showed up. That's a little bit show business. So, you know, I heard that there were, you know, all these different allegations against him.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Most of them are, I think, like blind items. The one star that we heard about was Ashley Judd. But now I'm hearing that like Gretchen Mull and Blake Lively are probably other people to whom this has happened. Yes. So according to my, my deep dive research into this, once I've become obsessed with the Harvey girls, which is what they call the women that Harvey Weinstein basically eyes and tries to build a career for if they basically, you know, hang out with him, if you will. In his hotel room. Sure. In his robe.
Starting point is 00:37:54 But like the so the Ashley Judge story is that she was called to a meeting in his hotel room. He has notorious casting couch sessions that happen on Friday evenings when his office is empty that he meets the women in his robe. Weird. That's the thing that. That's not just because he lives at the office. No. Hey, I just want to see it from every angle. It's known.
Starting point is 00:38:17 That's apparently it's been a known Hollywood secret for a very long time. And now that it's coming out, people are coming out and talking about it. But a lot of these women are staying quiet because their careers are on the line. And that's, you know, and I've heard that something I read is that basically his behavior would make Bill Cosby look chill. Basically, he's all over the place. Listen, Blake Lively, get on the phone right now. Black people need that. Listen, Blake Lively, get on the phone right now. Black people need this. So, I mean, the Ashley Judd story is that he had her come to his hotel room and then was like, hey, why don't you give me a massage? While he was like basically a robe and nothing else.
Starting point is 00:38:55 And she was like, nah. And then he was like, well, will you at least watch me shower? Yeah. Which is like you can tell he's like you can tell a certain level of depravity when like that's the thing you jump to second okay that was too much that was too much okay how about you watch me shower that's not a downgrade downgrade at all man it could have been like oh okay i'm sorry that was gross dinner yeah right i mean i guess we should say up top for people who don't know who harvey weinstein is i, he's the founder of Miramax and the head of Miramax with his brother, Bob Weinstein, up until I think like 10 years ago or something that he left Miramax and started Weinstein Pictures.
Starting point is 00:39:36 But he's been thanked more than God in Oscar acceptance speeches. James Doody Bench, the actress. I think it's Dame Judy judy dench oh okay yeah do you say james booty bench james duty bench uh either way uh that's my nickname for her but uh supposedly she had his name tattooed on her ass jd loves hw uh though some people are saying that it was a fake tattoo that she just got to impress him the fact that dame judy dench yeah that's how you pronounce that yeah uh it's a weird name the fact that she would even feel the need to lie about having a fake tattoo and then show her ass to to him uh kind of suggests how much power he has in in this town but he's kind of like the godfather of indie film, right?
Starting point is 00:40:27 He's pushed so many indie filmmakers' careers, like Quentin Tarantino. He created Billy Bob Thornton's career. Right. Sling Blade. Yeah. The man has done a lot of work, but he's also a huge creep. Right. Apparently, like this whole sort of pay to play or like have sex with me to play sort of scandal has been fueling the film industry. And there are, you know, different actresses who supposedly like their entire career is based on this.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Ashley Judd was just somebody who said no when he kind of made this offer. She was already kind of blowing up. But her career then sort of didn't go anywhere. So it like suggests that it's just all the worst things that you've ever heard about Hollywood are true. And oh, definitely. Yeah. Especially with Harvey, I think what he likes to do is pull these girls in create the hype and then leave them which is weird it's like they get bigger like it happened to mina suvari monica potter like these women that you don't hear from anymore like some of them would hit you know like uma thurman was one of them
Starting point is 00:41:36 apparently um blake lively's career happened gretchen mole's career was decent right Gretchen Moll's career was decent. Right. Gretchen Moll is a famous case where she's... What was she in? Chasing Amy? She was in... She was in some Miramax movie early on and hadn't been in that much and then Vanity Fair had her on and was like, she is the next Hollywood It Girl.
Starting point is 00:41:59 She's famous for getting that Vanity Fair cover and people being like, wait, what? Why is she getting the Vanity Fair cover? And being like, wait, what? Like, why is she getting the Vanity Fair cover? And so this kind of connects those dots for some people. Yeah, Weinstein is notorious for using his money and power to push these women into the spotlight and getting them films, getting them spots, just getting them out there. And the creepier part is that his wife dresses them. She is a clothing designer georgina chapman and so a lot of them are seen in her designs which is this very dark angle on all of it which is i don't
Starting point is 00:42:32 understand i don't think it's like one of those things where it's like okay and now you will wear like you should like let my wife dress you i think more of like kind of like maybe like sort of guiding people to be like and you should probably buy like where my wife's clothes since I'm, you know, right. But that's what I don't understand is what is the wife's role in this? Like, is she really that oblivious or is she just working the system for herself
Starting point is 00:42:54 as well to get these actresses in her dresses? Yeah. Gawker said that you could tell which of these women Harvey Weinstein was like sexually assaulting slash, like, you know, making their career blow up because one, they were they all kind of looked alike. They were like kind of blonde, pretty ish.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And like you didn't really understand why they were famous because they weren't super talented. And also they would always be dressed by his wife like at at award shows. And like Gawker was writing about that. Like, I wasn't aware award shows. And like Gawker was writing about that. Like, I wasn't aware of this, but like Gawker was writing about this like five years ago. Apparently, it's been like an open rumor. It's like like the 20 years. Right. For his entire career in Hollywood's just been like, ah, that's just Harvey being Harvey.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Yeah, that's exactly it. The Miramax. Everyone knows. Oh, sorry. The Miramax film was Rounders. Right. She played the girlfriend in Rounders, which not a great role. Like, definitely did not deserve to, like, have to have sex with that dude to get that role.
Starting point is 00:43:58 That role sucked. She was just like a, like, she was just like, oh, Matt Damon, stop playing cards. Like, she was just like a wet blanket. It was not a great role for her. Like Rosie Perez in White Man Can't Tell. Right, exactly. Oh, that's a great role. Beep.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Who's to start with the letter Q? So I guess the one question that I have, that was a killer Rosie Perez impression, right? Who's to start with the letter Q? rosie perez impression right she was the star of the letter q uh i guess this raises for me why like why do people who are the best at the thing they do why does this keep happening where they come out like i'm thinking of cosby here uh i'm thinking of allegedly louis ck uh a lot of female comics seem to have had the same experience. Why is it that these people who are like really great at something? Oh, the president, by the way, has it's like apparently a serial sexual assaulter. Like there are different ways you could look at it.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Is it that, you know, being a sociopath makes you good at manipulating people and bad at knowing how to respect people and showing empathy so you therefore see this correlation between people who are you know who are successful and who end up you know being serial sexual offenders uh my theory is that these are just the people that we're seeing propel doing it but i think this is a problem all across the board in that sadly sexual offense is like those kind of at least like transactions are something that we don't think like at least the people in those situations don't think the consequences outweigh the chance that they're taking or the relief that they're getting from like doing, doing that terrible thing.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Like, I kind of equate it to, like, why so many Hollywood men cheat. I think a lot of men cheat, and they think that, like, oh, these consequences aren't going to be as bad as how good this feels right now. So I think, like, the reason why so many successful people are doing it is because they're the ones propelled up. But I think men all across the board are doing this. Like, I think, like, there's probably, like, a gas station worker who's just like hey you want a better shift right come into the back room but like gawker's not gonna write an article about that gas station owner so i don't think that it's like a sociopathic thing connected to like hollywood i think it's just a power thing overall that's i agree with that i was gonna say I always felt it was a power thing. And for the people who get that far, like Harvey Weinstein, where no one says no to Harvey. Harvey, he's a power maker. He goes, he gets his films to win Oscars. He does everything he can. He pushes.
Starting point is 00:46:43 basically control you in any way, you start to do what you want. And there's no one there to say anything because people are afraid of you. And then it almost feels like it's never ending. Once Harvey goes, there's another one that comes. And it's just like a cycle. So Bill Cosby committed his first sexual assault in 1969. He was a successful stand-up and on a couple TV shows shows but he was not the most successful stand-up and tv star ever it was 13 years before he released himself the stand-up album and like 15 years before the cosby show debut uh like so of all the successful stand-ups the guy who was
Starting point is 00:47:19 secretly drugging and raping women for 13 years became the most famous stand up basically in the history of the art form and like America's dad. And then like Harvey Weinstein's first act of sexual abuse was 1990. Up to that point, he was the head of like an indie studio. They had the thin blue line, a documentary sex lives and videotapes but like why did the guy who was sexually assaulting and harassing women go on to define the 90s like it you know because he's the only one that we found out about like i'm willing to bet that like bill cosby isn't the only comedian from like i'm willing to bet that there's more right like i mean we're hearing about more like lucy k and like others are being outed right now. Like the screen junkies do from this weekend. Yeah. He's not a fucking powerful dude. Like he's barely even on that network, but he still does. Man from family. Yeah. Like, again, these aren't powerful dudes.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Like, I think it's just well, they're powerful within a within a con in their ecosystem. Exactly. And I think that's what we're seeing, which is like, yeah, Harvey Weinstein is powerful overall, but like, I still think that this happens. I mean, we hear about it with teachers. We hear about it with professors. Like, you know, like happens in improv all the time. Like, I think it's just a power dynamic. I don't think it's necessarily correlated to success.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Like the most successful person. Huh? Well, yeah. Or I guess like Anna was saying, like you maybe get emboldened a bit when you get to a certain level where now you feel like you're just untouchable. And so you, you kind of let all your, it doesn't, you'll, you'll, you'll actually go and indulge every single urge you have because it's like,
Starting point is 00:48:59 well, like you're saying people are thanking me and their Oscar acceptance speeches more than God or whatever. Like I'm a King maker. Like what, like,'re saying, people are thanking me in their Oscar acceptance speeches more than God or whatever. Like I'm a kingmaker. Like this is my world. Like I'm the king of this reality or whatever. Right. And I guess you could say that even though he did it in 1990, like the fact that he kept doing it and like made a habit of it was because he got that powerful. I mean that's the thing that makes the most sense to me, is just that power corrupts.
Starting point is 00:49:26 100%. Yeah. All right. Well, that was a laugh riot. Are there any lighter stories we want to go out on, guys? I got a gripe with Twitter. Okay. Let's hear that.
Starting point is 00:49:40 They let my brother have 280 characters. They're picking people and like letting them test out 280 characters and they gave it to him my brother ain't shit he's like a physical therapist student in texas really i'm out here killing the twitter game with my jokes killing constantly saying man you're so funny i like your stuff but twitter can't respect me enough to give me 280 characters that's pretty funny so they're just giving it to anyone they're giving it to just random yeah i don't know how it works but some people have been messaged and been like hey you can now tweet at 280 characters i gotta look at your brother's twitter feed to see like what kind of science he is laying down about physical therapy that they were like this
Starting point is 00:50:18 dude needs 280 this is your younger brother this is my younger brother oh man your younger brother yeah ouch i mean what would you do with 280 though bro i'll just talk more about depression This is your younger brother? This is my younger brother. Oh, man, your younger brother? Oh, so this stinks. At that? Yeah. Ouch. I mean, what would you do with 280, though? Bro, I would just talk more about depression and Nickelback. Yeah, see, that's why they're like, we got enough of that. And James Blake. I thought it was James Blunt. Oh, I like both.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Oh. You like James Bees? I do like James Bees. James Blake is not underrated. No, he's perfectly rated. I think he's underrated. No, he's moderately rated. I think he's underrated. Did you guys watch Saturday Night Live on Saturday night?
Starting point is 00:50:50 That's when it was. Saturday Night Live was on Saturday night. Did you just learn that? Yeah. Yeah. Is that what SNL stands for? Yeah. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:50:59 Gal Gadot. Gal Gadot. Yeah. Gal Gadot. She's a tall, statuesque Natalie Portman was the host, and she made out with Kate McKinnon. I like to call her the sexiest Zionist. She made out with Kate McKinnon? Yeah. In a sketch where, it's a pretty funny sketch, they assume that the women of Wonder woman's home island are all lesbians and
Starting point is 00:51:28 uh try and convert them you know how gays do try and convert people to lesbianism that's my dad wouldn't uh he got mad when my my cousin could go to a sparks game is that true yeah he's on some ignorant shit but i mean he's back gay people have knocked on my door constantly trying to push literature on me what is what is their literature it's like steps to christ but it's like steps to west hollywood the portrait of Dorian Gray. I think stating once and for all that we believe that being gay is a choice and that they're trying to convert straight people is probably a good point to go out on. If you believe that, then you found your show, folks. Thank you, Anna Hosnia, as always, for being our our producer our harvey leinstein don't sue me
Starting point is 00:52:28 and thank you edgar mon placer on your boingo yeah uh where can people find you edgar um and find me on my twitter at edgar mon placer find me on instagram at awful gram uh you can find me performing at the ucB at various random times. Just check out my page there. Google Edgar Roper Zero UCB. How are you spelling your last name these days? Oh, man. You know, I'm spelling it the right way, which is M-O-M-P-L-A-I-S-I-R.
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