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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 213, Episode 3 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. by Diet Coke. of course means it is rosa parks day also very important it's national red apple day
eat a red apple day okay yeah okay i already read ate a red apple today
and national pie day which is interesting because pies never utilize red apples uh they're they're
always telling you to get the ones that make your mouth pucker so you know it's interesting things
yeah absolutely and also what
you say national pie day already yeah i said national pie good our guests and super producer
justin were pointing out that isn't isn't 314 national pie day well look according to this
entry it says uh we celebrate on this day but the more popular date is january 23rd
but the more popular date is January 23rd.
For what?
For who?
What the fuck is this?
Do they not know math?
This is the National Pi Day for the mathematically illiterate.
Oh, you think they're doing it to be one, two, three.
Probably, right?
That other rapper.
They're just like numbers, you know? And pi is a number.
Yeah, I don't know.
Can't get enough National Pi Days.
Can't get enough National Pie Days. Can't get enough.
My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Mamas, don't let your babies grow out their mustache.
Don't let them be pickup artists that suck.
Make them not look like creepy old fucks.
That is courtesy of one Christy Yamaguchi
Maine on this, my final
day of mustachio.
It's gone. Of being mustachioed.
Yeah, it is technically
gone on this December
1st, but as we record this,
still rocking the Movember
stash. Thank you very much to our
sponsors, Movember, and everyone who
donated to the TDZ Movember stash. Thank you very much to our sponsors, Movember, and everyone who donated to the TDZ Movember page.
What's the Mo for in Movember?
Is that for molester?
Yes.
Men's health.
Yes.
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always,
by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Hey, as you know, it's the one and only Hideo
Noho, a.k.a. Hideo
Noho!
And Hideo Noel!
And let it
snow!
Oh, okay.
Thank you so much to Rob Cunningham
at Math Demigod
for that. Thank you for taking
some, you know, some interesting takes with Hideo Nako.
There you go. Well, Miles,
we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by one of our favorite guests, one of you guys'
favorite guests, a famous
or sorry, a hilarious comedian,
a very talented writer and director.
Sorry, that was...
That was weird.
That was funny.
You had to roll that one back.
A famously hilarious comedian.
A very talented writer and director.
Hilariously famous.
Hilariously famous.
Who's told jokes on the CW.
The PBS.
Roast Battle.
Bridgetown.
SF's Get Fast.
She's famous as fuck, y'all.
Yeah.
I'm extremely famous.
I was on the CW one time you guys all know
me yeah why does the cw get the the but not pbs or any of the other well is i don't know is it cw
should i just say i've i was on cw but that sounds wrong they say i've only heard it as the cw
because it was the wb before that well that's the thing when i was when i write that credit i don't
know if i should capitalize the the
yeah that's a great question
I think it's more informal anyway
who is that who is that
it is the hilarious
the talented the brilliant
Sarah June
thank you so much also very famous
so famous
Sarah June
and like what one of the early people to have to be yo, what the fuck is up with these NFTs, man?
What are y'all doing over here with this shit?
Yeah.
Straight right clicking shit and money laundering.
Crypto queen.
Yeah.
Yo, I've been saving image as.
Three little words every woman wants to hear.
Save image as.
What do you do for a living?
I right click.
That's right.
My friend was telling me about a streamer that he was watching.
The streamer was like, I'm going to do an NFT.
And, you know, they did bidding for it and it got up to like 200 bucks.
And he was like, OK, OK, everybody.
All right.
This guy won the auction.
I'm going to put the I'm going to put the NFT on screen.
OK, nobody save it. Only him. Only that nobody save it only him only that guy nobody else save no nobody else save okay come on honor system
honor system honor system wait isn't it supposed to be like not a thing that everybody can just
copy and paste i don't know yeah that's that's yeah that's the whole but jack you're making a
little too much sense.
You're ruining my faith in NFTs.
If I don't have faith in NFTs, what do I have left?
Sorry, I just reached down into your deep well of faith.
Yes.
But you know what?
You got a lot of clean drug money, though.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah, that's true.
Sorry, what's good?
What's new?
Your background is looking very pink.
I'm pink. Yeah. I'm all about the pink. Yeah, it's good what's new your your background is looking very pink i'm pink yeah yeah i'm all
about the pink uh yeah it's good i got uh i got some seeds seeds coming up that's my underrated
seeds all right that's what i think is underrated seeds
give it away for free it's chomping but yeah why do people say champion i thought it was
because they're it's
you know that's how language evolves this episode's gonna be our seinfeld episode where i ask
the hard-hitting questions like why do we call the cw but not pbs
people all these these are things that i guarantee you in five years will be commonly accepted
spellings that are currently considered incorrect.
Reigns, when people say take the reins, what they should write is R-E-I-N-S.
What they usually write is R-E-I-G-N-S.
And that's incorrect, but will be commonly accepted soon.
Sneak peek.
People commonly write S-N-E-A-K-P-E-A-K,k even though that's not right but they've been doing it so it's going
to happen yeah artesian fake word soon to be real artisanal oh people are calling it artisanal
yes people say artesian it's not real artisanal a-r-t-r-t-i-s-i-N-A-L. It should be artisanal, but it doesn't matter because it's a fake language.
And they replaced artisanal with artisanal.
Artisanal with artisanal.
Artisanal.
Oh, okay.
Artisanal and artisanal.
Got it.
All right.
I'm confused.
It started as champ at the bit, but also chomp began as a variant of champ.
So either one is okay.
So you could say champ too.
So you know what?
That's what I'm saying.
Double KO.
Double KO on the grammar ring.
Double KO on the grammar ring.
Okay.
Champing on a red apple.
Champing on some pie here today.
I kind of like that.
Exactly, man.
It's a fun day of age.
Don't get me fucking started on apples, Jack.
Do not get me started on apples.
I swear to God.
I will take over this podcast.
I'm terrified right now.
Overrated. I got one word for you,
Miles. Overrated.
Alright. Well, that's a
sneak peek of what's to come. Also
a sneak peek of what's to come is
P-E-A-K.
A sneak peek. A sneaky
little mountain peek.
We're going to...
Here are some of the things we're talking about.
We're talking about the Maxwell trial.
Ghislaine Maxwell's trial opened with...
I guess it was the second day.
But they had the pilot of the Lolita Express yesterday up there.
And he talked about how he did, in fact see donald trump on that
bitch you know flying just there in in all his glory which apparently i think was was the thing
that people knew but i i had like he wasn't on the flight logs i remember looking into that so
this was good to know because i i was on the fence about whether that guy was a was a real
shithead we're going to talk about the democrats are finally uh they finally have their priorities
straight and are going after bots baby we're going to talk about the steven paddock story that i think
was asked and answered a few years ago in the National Mindshare that he was just a
lone nut with no clear political motive. And we're going to take a second look at that.
We'll also talk about Islamophobia from Lauren Boebert. We're going to talk about Elon Musk
and why privatization maybe isn't always a great idea. Anyways, we'll talk about all that shit.
But more importantly, before we get to any of that,
Sara, we like to get to know our guests a little bit better
by asking you to take a look at your search history
and tell us what's in there.
Let's go, guys.
I'm doing this for real.
This isn't a bit.
I'm going to my real Google and looking at my search.
Well, the last thing I looked up was Red Notice.
What the fuck is it? Which I speaks volumes yeah it does the last thing i uh the last thing in my
google search history before red notice is succession theme song piano sheet music and
that is because i had to learn the theme to succession being piano proficient and watching
enough succession and man the music on that show is good.
They don't have a lot of it.
They have the one theme and they just kind of play it at different speeds.
And like,
sometimes they'll transpose it a little,
but like there was a pretty exciting scene recently and it was the same
thing.
It was just extra fast.
Just variations on a theme.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's great.
I won't play it for you,
but rest assured I can play it uh slowly
were you i mean were you stoked when you found it you're like finally let me fucking bang this out
on the on the keys right now well there was a point where i was like maybe i'll uh you know
i'll give myself a little challenge and i'll uh i'll you know do an ear training and try and
figure it out and i was like no i frankly my ear ears not good enough. I'm just going to look up the sheet music.
Yeah.
The last time I did that was to the two times I've looked up sheet music to play something on a keyboard was everything in its right place by radio
head.
Cause I wanted to play that on an electric piano.
Great one.
And then anytime by Brian McKnight,
the two most romantic songs
of all time.
I would love to be serenaded by you, Miles,
on an electric keyboard.
Oh my god. I mean, you should have...
Shit. I really did that too.
And I was... You know what's the saddest thing?
I was single at the time, and in my mind
I was like, yo, this is a good
thing to have in the fucking...
You were right. You were right.
You're not single now, are you? No, but when I played it, yo, this is a good thing to have in the fucking... You were right. You're not single now, are you?
No, but when I played it, they said,
what is this song?
And please stop playing it.
Yeah, no single man is...
Or I'm sorry, no partnered man is sitting there
figuring out electric keyboard parts in his room.
Too busy.
Too busy doing other things.
How are you feeling about Succession
this week?
I'm not caught up yet.
I just started watching
this series and I've been putting it off
because I like to binge.
I usually will wait until I have
some kind of a winter holiday.
That's a nice binging time
for me. Lots of hours of darkness.
I'm only about halfway through season 2 so please doninging time yeah for me lots of hours of darkness so yeah i'm only about halfway
through season two so please don't spoil things for me okay yeah okay everything else in my life
has already been ruined so oh so yes in its right place i'm everything's fine i was like oh yeah
that last episode was intense and i'm like oh wait you're okay different one different one
i'm not even saying anything don't say anything i do like it my my friend was like do you think it humanizes the rich too much and i was like i think it kind of dehumanized
they're really monstrous yeah and like you know there's that's what the job of the press is is
to humanize the rich that's what they generally do you know yeah rich people are very humanized
and uh you know and they're they're humans but yeah man they got good fucking actors on that
show i mean that sounds so stupid to say but no they got good fucking actors on that show right yeah no there
there is an eeriness to it especially as it gets like they kind of start expanding the world a
little bit of what their like spheres of influence are and you're kind of like yeah yeah these people
are scum and not even like the fun sopranos way like it's more like i'm more like watch it to be
like let's check in on that fucked up family who has it all but like i'm glad they're unhappy because they got everything
yeah it's like a fun kind of like arrested development meets veep but more dramatic and
less funny right miles you're up on it you watched the most recent episode i'm i'm i started it i
started it and it's getting intense.
I can't.
I can't.
Like, I think this might be where I stop watching the show just because I like how pathetic the premise of it is.
And like the build up to this episode, every time he talks about like his birthday party, it's just like, fuck, because he's been so brutal this season to just watch at any moment
you're just like god might and then like yeah for that to all come to a head hey i'm ready i'm ready
i might have to you know that's why i was like i'm it's too late in the evening for me to continue
it down this road so exactly let me pick it up i love love my success boys. A bit of data. I watch them. My success boys.
My successos.
And I'm like, man, there's barely any people of color on this show.
Where my successos at?
And I'm like.
Yeah, successos.
Is this Fisher Stevens because he was wearing like brown face and short circuit?
Does he count as a person of color in that cast?
Yeah.
Brown.
Brown.
Justin Trudeau is black now. Yeah yeah because of because of when he did blackface
it's you know you know what conservatives like to say oh if you can change genders then maybe
i'm transracial just fucking sure yeah you're black now if you want to be black that's great
just okay no one's gonna respect that but say enjoy it get out my face yeah what is something
you think is overrated?
Well,
I am going to go with apples,
apples,
apples.
I would say overrated.
Not all sorts of fruit.
Yeah.
Well,
here's,
here's the thing that I found out that kind of fucked up my whole life.
Okay.
All of the apples that we eat,
the,
the strains that we know and love your honey crisp,
your pink lady,
your red, delicious, your golden,, your Red Delicious, your Golden Delicious, your Jazz, your Gala, etc.
All of these fruits are made from clones of a mother tree.
And they have to be made from clones because when apples reproduce sexually.
Make love. Yeah. to be made from clones because when apples reproduce sexually make love yeah when apples make love they create hybrids and their hybrids are not what they call true to strain so if you
were to let apples have sex in nature the way that they normally do, you end up with a completely unpredictable fruit.
This is not helpful for the needs of the marketplace.
So all of our apples are literally, virtually, not virtually, I'm sorry.
They are literally identical plants, genetically speaking.
I'm sorry. They are literally identical plants, genetically speaking.
So that means if there is some kind of a virus that affects the honey crisp apple, there's no honey crisp apples.
Boom. Gone. That's it. Because there's no biodiversity.
Right. We live in like apple Gattaca.
Yes, exactly.
Applica.
Gattaca.
We grew in Gattaca.
Bananas too.
Bananas are all cloned from a single banana.
They're Bananica.
Yes, we're in Bananica and Applica.
And I just think people should know.
Because once you know that all of the red delicious apples are genetically actually identical, it just feels different. of unknown unpredictable type that we are not eating because we are isolating all of our apples into single strains and not letting them fuck they're in their little prisons yeah so i mean
that would probably hold true for like a lot of fruits at that point right not just apples not to
say everything but i feel like that logic would tend to apply for, you know, most other cash crops.
It does.
It does.
And so most like trees that you buy, like if you buy a lemon tree, you know, to keep the strain, you know, everything is made from cuttings.
You know, they'll take cuttings.
But it's strongest.
Apples are one of the most isolated because they have a tendency to hybridize so much more quickly and so much more unpredictably than most other fruits.
So it's like, makes you kind of think,
apples, they're up to something.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I don't trust a clone.
I don't really trust a clone.
You shouldn't trust a clone.
They're all replicants.
They're delicious little replicants.
Where's the free love farmer who's like,
yo, my apples fuck.
And like, whatever you get, you get.
But it's a mouthful and And I'll tell you that.
Okay.
That's a hole in the marketplace, Miles.
And I think you could fill it.
Absolutely.
Like there needs to be somebody
who's at every farmer's market
being like, all right.
I got wild apples.
With a sign be like,
yo, they're pushing clothes over here.
They're pushing clothes over here.
They want one world government and shit.
Come have my delicious apples.
They fuck freely on my farm
and they're like shit unvaxed apples some tastes like shit but i guarantee it's a flavor you have
never experienced in your life and that's kind of the whole ride yeah this one's brown delicious
i know you might not have oh it's soft like a plum i was like i was gonna feel bad for apples
when people talk shit on them, like Red Delicious and stuff.
It's not their fault.
They tried.
They tried.
They tried to be better.
We isolated them because we wanted a type of apple that would ship really well.
We just wanted them to ship and make it so we could cut them and slice them and put them in little plastic bags and then serve them to kids in school.
And they wouldn't turn to complete mush.
And that's why I write delicious.
It's not its fault.
Yeah, that's true.
It's just a little apple.
One of my favorite facts is like that pre-bananatica,
bananas didn't really look like that.
And same with corn on the cob.
And so all of the selective breeding,
we keep making the food we eat look like big dicks.
Like that's just there's like something in our nature where we're like, you know, first of all, it could be bigger and more delicious.
And also just like a giant dick.
Right.
Just a huge.
Yo, can we get some more veins on this cucumber, please?
Right.
Exactly.
I'm tired of eating this old smooth-ass cucumber and doing shit for me.
What is something you think is underrated, Sarah?
Well, I guess related.
I think starting seeds is underrated.
It's really, really fun.
What that means?
That means when you sprout a seed.
When you get a seed and you sprout it and you get a plant from that as opposed to like buying a seedling or
clone or whatever just the process of a seed opening up yeah boy oh boy that's a rush i have
not done that i was growing weed in high school and it's a rush right yeah because oh my god
you're telling me like checking you come back from school you're like yes yes come the fuck
every morning i'm up i'm gonna add
my seeds i'm like who's up yeah and i'm like okay okay put the put the paper towel back on it put
the paper tag i went a little too soon let it germinate let it germinate but yeah it's been
a minute actually that i forgot about that excitement thank you that's what i'm saying
it's underrated people got to do it more what are you there's some stuff that's so easy oh i mean
so i got i got some grow lights for my sprouts because i'm doing some uh but i'm sprouting now sunflowers so i can eat those
little sunflower sprouts because i love them and they're so expensive so you got to just sprout
sunflowers i mean that's the thing about sunflower sprouts is it's it's a sprout you cut it you eat
it and it's gone there's no sunflower oh you gotta start it doesn't come back right damn they're
fucking delicious so i got sunflowers i got like kale lettuces i got a bunch of native seeds sprouting
because i'm trying to plant more native plants in my yard so wait i got uh i got some cool cool
ones what is what are sunflower sprouts i never even heard of this you never had sunflower sprouts
like on a sandwich or in a salad or anything? I mean, how is that different? Like, I mean, like alfalfa sprouts, like typical sprouts?
No, it's the same.
It's just from a sunflower seed.
Oh, but it's delicious.
But they're just like, you ever seen like a sunflower come up?
It's a really meaty little seed into an absolute boss.
Yeah, it's big.
So they're crunchy.
They're yummy.
All right.
Yeah, it's great.
The most I've done are
like garlic sprouts or like sprouts that come from like other more flavored things that have
a little bit of yeah i love garlic greens dude they're so good yeah there we go i'll show you
guys i mean it's not really podcast shit but you know i got a webcam i actually prefer like i'm
picturing you on in the middle of just a gigantic farm with like just fields of corn and shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, in the middle of LA.
Yeah.
But here, I'll turn my, there's my shit.
Oh, yeah.
You got them on the racks and everything.
Yeah, I got a whole thingy.
But yeah, I got like a bunch of native flowers this spring.
I'm hoping to lure some butterflies towards my home.
Who's that working that tractor out there on the horizon?
Yeah, that's my cat.
Damn, talented.
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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So, I guess everybody
knew this already.
It gave me hope that we might be
seeing some shit in the
G. L. A. Maxwell trial
after, I don't know, heading into it i was like i
gotta let shit anything drop right like the you know they they killed epstein like why would they
let her come out and say the shit but yeah in court yesterday one of the pilots of the lolita
express the pilot i believe right yeah like to the point that jeffrey epstein
like put his kids through college like literally like paid their tuition bought him a home with
like acres in new mexico so he was on those flights said he had seen clinton and prince andrew
which had gotten like most of the attention and which i think we had seen Clinton and Prince Andrew, which had gotten most of the attention,
which I think we had seen on flight logs,
but also confirmed having seen
Donald Trump on the flights.
The pilot claims he never saw underage
girls without their parents
or knew of any sexual activity happening
on the plane. Just because she's calling him daddy
doesn't mean she's his parent.
It's noisy
in a jet with the door closed to the cockpit.
Right.
Jeffrey Epstein had so many daughters.
Right.
It was probably pretty incriminating
if he did know about that.
I just imagine him at the front
like a school bus driver just being like,
you guys keep quiet back there.
Don't make me land.
Shut up. This is unsafe.
Put your seatbelts on. That't make me land. Shut up. This is unsafe. Yeah.
Put your seatbelts on.
That first day, though, it's wild.
Like, because Maxwell's lawyer came out fucking swinging.
She was like, yo, they're trying to make her escape.
Go, fam.
Just because Epstein's dead.
They had to put the attention on somebody else.
And then, like, the prosecutors had to keep objecting every every time she's like, she's a scapegoat.
And they're like, objection.
Or they'd be like, she's a stand in for Jeffrey Epstein.
They're like, objection.
This is not.
Yeah.
We see what you're trying to do.
Then like dragging the victims to.
Yeah. the part of their strategy that I was at least, you know, thought,
thought there might be some promise for us finding out some shit is that it
seems like they're going to make the case that she was like one of Epstein's
victims,
basically like she was being manipulated by him.
And like,
if that is the strategy,
which it seems like it is at least partially the strategy,
you know,
that would,
it does seem like they would want to prove like that all the,
all the powerful influence that he had over powerful people,
because that would make him more unfuck withable.
So I don't know.
That's,
that's what I'm hoping is that they kind of developed that and are like,
yeah,
I mean,
he told me he had compromising material on bill clinton and donald trump right if you're fully gonna like dish it
off the bad guy role to the even bigger bad guy i mean you would have to do that otherwise
i don't think the strategy as it is being like oh one of the accusers like does drugs
right it's like what just once she was no angel right no literally and then you
know she said like off the top she was like since the dawn of adam and eve she said ever since adam
ever since eve was accused of tempting adam with the apple yeah women have been blamed for men's
bad behavior so it was a bit of a yeah they're they're trying, her defense is trying a lot of different strategies.
Pretty strong comparison there.
Yeah.
No, for sure.
I totally, but I think at this point when it's like so clear.
Ever since one man stood up and was crucified for fucking underage girls.
People have been trying to bring down a powerful guy with powerful ideas.
My name is Jeffrey
Epstein and I am like Jesus.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is all to say we'll be keeping an eye
on that trial, probably updating you if
anything interesting happens.
The Democrats, speaking of interesting,
it seems like they finally
have their priorities straight.
They are going after bots.
Yeah.
Bots.
You say, what the fuck is a bot?
And why in the middle of a pandemic and rapid exponential income inequality, why are we focusing on bots?
And that's the bots are the ones changing the climate miles.
Thank you.
Right.
The bots are the ones that are preventing the Build Back Better Act from getting passed.
So let's put it like this.
If you've tried to buy a PS5 or Xbox Series X and an NVIDIA GeForce RTX card,
Beyonce's Ivy Park apparel, or even Pokemon cards on the internet,
chances are you have been greeted with some shit that says,
sold out.
And you're asking yourself, but I logged in at the time that the stuff was supposed to drop and be available.
And I clicked everything.
I put it in my cart in under a minute and it was still sold out.
How can that be?
Well, that's because of the reselling markets use of bots.
And basically, they're just like computer programs that are able to add items to cards
with all the needed payment and like shipping information like instantaneously. So like you're just getting beat technologically to just put these things in a cart and process a transaction. So then scalpers and resellers take shit like to eBay or StockX and sell it for, you know, huge markup and make a lot of money. There's a story about a 16-year-old kid who did $1.7 million in revenue
by reselling PS5s and all kinds of shit
that he was using bots for.
And only, his profit though, only $110,000.
Okay, so leave him alone.
Wait, where's he getting that seed money from?
I think, look, you probably,
yo, I mean, if you start real small, right,
you get one PS5 and you sell it for double,
now you got double, and you pour that back into two PS5s that you can get with bots and then you double.
I mean, there's, you know, you just got to start really small.
It's Flash Boys, but with PS5s.
It's like saying he only so he put in 1.6 million and made 1.7.
Like that, that suggests that at some point he had $1.6 million.
I think that was his net revenue.
So I don't know if that's just basically,
I think when you add up everything that he sold
and then taking off, like recouping his little cut.
I don't know how numbers work.
Me either.
And it doesn't matter,
but that's why Representatives Paul Tonko of New York,
Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, Chuck Schumer and Ben Ray Lujan of New Mexico, they have all announced they're pushing for the Stop Grinch Bots Act.
But specifically, the Stopping Grinch Bots Act would expand on a law passed in 2016 that outlawed bots from circumventing control measures to put tickets to like music concerts and sports, like essentially just say making it illegal for scalpers to resell tickets like this. And this legislation that they're pushing now would essentially take, say, this applies now to all online retail sites.
So if you're a sneaker head, you're like, oh, shit, look at that.
all online retail sites.
So if you're a sneaker head,
you're like,
Oh shit,
look at that.
I might have a chance at getting a sneaker or if you want your Pokemon card or fuck it.
Even sometimes you see restaurant reservations go up instantly because people
use bots to even get restaurant reservations.
So,
you know,
it would be really bad is if they use these to vote.
Yeah.
Well,
look,
we should stop it before they can can do that right yeah one thing
at a time we got to get in early on this problem so i mean i think this on one level you're like
okay that's interesting but this also feels like a real low effort attempt to make it seem like
the party's doing something and like that like that there's like yeah we get a supply chain
stuff like you're we hear complaints from parents trying to get certain things and it's these fucking bots, you know.
So we're going to handle that and vote blue no matter who.
All right.
They'll always they'll always act when it's in the interest of like people spending money, consumerism, like making consumer culture like unless it's like consumer protections it's like
that weird fine line it's like we're gonna make it easier for you to give away your money but we're
gonna make it hard as fuck to get your money back right exactly it's like a like a fucking like a
old school like wooden fish trap where it's like they get in but it can't come out that's right
yeah i mean a teenager making money on the internet that's uh that could be a
big problem if we don't do something about it absolutely what what's next hundred and ten
thousand dollars that's for a child that's absurd no but a child should not be making that much
money you know that's the that's adult money adult money for for billionaires yeah 100 this
is like was he he's not he's not paying he can't be paying taxes on that hundred and ten thousand
that's like 50 you know That's like $500,000
The government's missing out on
Selfish teenager
Quit asking if I'm
Looking at my $1099 shit
Ask this young man where the fuck his $110,000
Came from
Yeah
It could be cool
If online sales Worked better I feel like it's you know, it could be cool if if online sales worked better.
I feel like it's maybe like the 500th priority that they should be paying attention to right now.
Generously.
Oh, yeah.
But again, that's why it just feels like one of those things that eat real easy win because like Chuck Schumer's words are even like it shouldn't be so hard during the holidays to get the gifts that you need to make memories you
know it's like this like i give a fuck energy when it's not has nothing to do with this and
i think it helps bro give me money right exactly money about extended unemployment benefits okay
shut the fuck up i said we're gonna handle the box right now and then maybe we'll talk we're
gonna make sure you get your slippers in time those slippers that you ordered you gotta get them especially because you know that was on oprah's list so we
can't fuck around and have that not be available oprah will take this country down well speaking
of oprah taking this country down actually this next story has nothing to do with that although
uh dr oz has announced for uh that he's running for senate so that could be oprah taking this country down
down the path of victory uh because yeah dr oz is a hero personal hero of mine one of the
greats to ever do it one of the greatest doctors one of the greatest doctors he is actually a good
doctor who just uh you got phil oz drew gupta the classic doctors. Dr. Oz, the biggest tragedy of Dr. Oz is he was actually like one of the nation's top heart surgeons and gave that up to go do this bullshit.
Well, now he's now he's in the nation's hearts.
Yeah, exactly.
He's in the hearts of all.
And saying, you know, ladies, the vagina is like a self-cleaning of it.
That's right.
You're like, OK, don't.
Why are you doing a whole segment on this, Dr. Oz? This that's some real shit yeah it gets hot yeah i'm not joking there's
a whole clip where he's explaining you're like this is the weirdest tv i've ever fucking seen
like why and like watching people in the audience like oh wow self-cleaning oven huh right with like
a stage-sized model of the vagina that you could walk
through. That's sick.
I clean my oven with a Lysol douche.
Like a Summer's Eve.
I put Summer's Eve in my oven.
There you go. Yeah.
After I fuck it.
I don't want it to get pregnant. I don't want to get a bun
in there. There you go.
That's stupid. That's fucking
stupid. I'm sorry, guys sorry guys that's stupid it's
actually probably where dr oz came up with the oven metaphor was yeah people talk about getting
a button in the oven yeah i should be making more money i should be making that dr oz money
yeah well so uh this is just kind of kind of an update but you know in response to last week's
story about kyle rittenhouse the fact that people weren't calling him a right wing extremist, even though he was at Trump rallies and a supporter of Blue Lives Matter and, you know, things that supremacy hand signs.
Yeah. One of our readers, Fuzzy Rage Monster is actually the display name on Twitter.
Thank you, reader.
Suggested we look at the FBI's investigation into Steven Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter.
Because according to...
Oh, Mr. Mandalay, Mr. Mandalay Bay.
Yeah, Mr. Mandalay Bay.
Like the record that made it through
to like sort of the national shared consciousness
was that he was like a lone nut.
They couldn't figure out a motive.
He basically got like the Oswald treatment
that he was just had a screw loose and
was that's a strong implication yeah yeah yeah the oswald treatment yeah yeah oh so it was somebody
else yeah well i'm not saying no but like the way that they just treated oswald and going nuts the
jfk assassination as like apolitical that's what they did with right too they were just like nothing to see here move along but according to like you know just a a
small amount of looking people who are familiar with him say he was radically anti-government
and like trying to start a war to get people to rise up because he thought the government was
coming for our guns yeah and yeah he was like so
this country needs a wake-up call or some country needs to wait we need to wake up the american
public and get them to arm themselves in response to looming threats but it was a country music
festival so i think a lot of those people already right had guns or or were pro-gun at least he was
uh trying to get the biggest bang.
Like he was researching where he could.
Bang for his buck.
Yeah, literally.
He spent a lot of time researching,
okay, where could I kill the most people?
And this is the one that he came up with.
But he made reference.
So he was trying to buy a gun part
used to convert semi-automatic firearms into a
fully automatic machine gun and the gun dealer was like oh that's illegal i don't do that and he like
became enraged and made reference to this is from the intercept a litany of anti-government
conspiracy theories including supposed plans by the federal emergency management administration
fema to set up detention camps of americans and plans for widespread confiscation of firearms including supposed plans by the Federal Emergency Management Administration, FEMA,
to set up detention camps of Americans and plans for widespread confiscation of firearms.
Paddock believed that Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was just a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kicking down doors and confiscating guns, which, you know, is part,
like that seems to be in the same category, like connected.
Is he saying that they, that Katrina was engineered or just that the government took the opportunity?
I think, I think there's a lot of people who think it was engineered.
The hurricane?
Not the hurricane, the breaching of the walls.
I think they're...
The levees, yeah.
The levees.
People think that they were blown up to create the walls. I think they're... The levees, yeah. The levees. People think that they were
blown up to create
the disaster.
But it's...
This is part of a
sort of mainstream
of extremist
ideology and
conspiracy thinking that
has only become
more mainstream since paddock perpetrated
one of the one of the biggest terrorist attacks in the history of the united states and you know
no ideology though no no no ideology it like i think the fact that it was a gun because america
is like very forgiving of those like if he had blown up that many people like I think there they would have had a harder time like just kind of yada yada in it but it's
just I think it is really damaging that they you know came up with that sort of down the middle
explanation it was also at a time when homeland Security and FBI agents were saying that they were being forced to downplay the threat of white supremacists and other, you know, right wing terror by the Trump White House.
But certainly hasn't like, you know, there's been mention of that becoming a priority under Biden.
But he hasn't like been like, for instance, look at this massive terror attack.
For instance, look at this massive terror attack. This guy had right wing beliefs that he was like very angry about in the lead up to this massive terror attack.
But they don't even call it.
He also just like went up.
He went up to the top floor of a hotel with like eight fucking duffel bags full of huge guns.
And everyone was like, seems right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just a normal guy.
Wait, what's and it and
it and it's funny because it's like even whether or not like law and federal law enforcement must
be like man we were under pressure it's like look at your track record homie like you didn't need
no fucking pressure like this is what you do you're either trying to set people up if they're
muslim or black or whatever and attract people and be like hey man Terror plot thwarted
Even though we basically set the whole thing up
And then in this case just
Not even managing to
Give people some semblance of an idea
Of like what the threats that the country
Faces by saying yeah I mean
When you look at it he's definitely on the
Right side of the spectrum looking at some
Interesting stuff on the internet so
That might be somewhere to start but It's easier to just make it very clean and sanitized and say
i mean there's no way to tell like why someone would do this when they're not
muslim so yeah exactly like attacks carry out by muslims and middle easterners are routinely
labeled as terrorism while anything carried out by non-Muslims
like Paddock are not.
That's kind of the rule.
He was a landlord, Jack.
Right, exactly.
He was a good guy.
Wait, he was a landlord?
Yeah, he was a landlord.
We need to issue an apology then.
Yeah, he's just trying to provide
housing
to help people. It couldn't be more of need to issue an apology then yeah yeah he's just trying to provide uh provide housing in a in a you
know help help people yeah yeah it couldn't be more of like what america values as a landowner
who like manipulates but you know like that's the thing when we talk every time it's kyle
rittenhouse it's it's fucking i can't there's all of these people who like to go outside the law to you know maintain
the white status quo just an inability to just describe it for what it is like it just and the
mainstream media can never do that because they can't i think the the the fear of having people
being like how could you say that it's like, you need to actually open up your eyes, person who's angry and reading it, like calling in.
Because this is actually this is this is the path we're on.
But no one's really articulating it in a way that makes for, you know, objective assessment of where we are.
Yeah.
My mom, like, watches the news, but I guess she she had heard of Kyle Rittenhouse, but she never knew what he
did. And she was like, so who's Kyle Rittenhouse? And I was like, oh, he shot a bunch of people.
She was like, really? The way they talk about him, I thought he was like a basketball player
or something. Because of the way that they talked about him, like, with a lot of respect.
And with a lot of like, this guy's important and you know they talk about the case because the case is important of course but right there was you know no point at which
it was really driven home what he had done when he had done it and that adults had helped him do
it she thought he was a grown adult who was like straight up in the nba right the way they talked
the way they said Kyle Rittenhouse.
Yeah,
sure.
I mean,
it's again,
it was wild to see how many,
you know,
it's in New York times or other,
you know,
big news outlets be like,
just take any of the language out that would describe what his,
what the charges were ideologically,
or even describing people like,
like not being too much like any shot. This one guy dead it was like and then you know after this dude attacked him like very much and i get
to like if you're sort of objectively describing the situation that's one thing but there's a lot
of rhetorical strategery around that that felt very like and it's just and it's just a shame
what happened to this young man just scared it's just it's chaotic it's and it's just, and it's just a shame what happened to this young man. Just scared.
It's just, it's chaotic.
It's chaotic.
It's.
Yeah.
I mean, it's pretty chaotic for your mom to drive you to a riot with a gun in your hand.
That's pretty fucking chaotic, you know?
And that like, I didn't, I didn't find out about that until pretty recently.
And it seems to me a really important detail.
Yeah.
When it comes to figuring out what happened and with one intentions yeah i
mean just talking about the both sides in of these sorts of stories miles you were you were pointing
out this lauren bobert ilhan omar story where yeah yeah so you know it's pronounced bober
yeah rudy yeah so bobert out here gogurt made some just, you know, off the wall Islamophobic remarks over the Thanksgiving break.
She was talking to a group of supporters, like literally like like a group of old grizzled bikers and stuff were like so horny for her.
She was like, so I was in an elevator at the Capitol and saw an officer sprinting towards me.
And then this is from this news article, quote, she then turned and saw Ilhan Omar standing nearby. And this is what Boebert said, quote,
I said, well, she doesn't have a backpack. We should be fine. And then the audience was like
laughing and stuff. And then she's going to say, and I said, oh, look, the Jihad squad decided to
show up for work today. So, you know, pretty, I think we all all i think we all know what that's pretty cute i think lauren
knows that jihad you know in islam is not just in reference to attacks of violence or terrorism but
is a term used to describe the moral struggle of every uh of every person and every muslim to do
to do right you know by the way it's a spiritual struggle. And I think that Lauren Boebert knew that. That's what she was. She was like the jihad squad who struggle
every day to improve our country and to, you know, do their jobs. That's what she was saying,
I think. And I find that really admirable. So, Miles, I don't understand why you would
just slander her like that. She defines intifada after this.
And that's where the web milk.
The intifada squada.
She then goes on, you know, again, Ilhan Omar is like, this is completely made up.
First of all, you should see whenever I pass her in the hall, she has her eyes low.
She doesn't even look me in my eyes.
So don't even tell me that we're gonna be in an elevator
together that's just straight up bullshit and then so this kicked off the whole thing again
because the gop was already dealing with the censure of paul gosar going after another woman
of color in congress and they're like fuck so kevin mccarthy tried to like get the healing
started up by being like well she apologized to me bobert also gave her you know
very standard non-apology to any muslims that may have been offended kind of shit and then so they
got the she so bobert called omar and the shit just you know it didn't go anywhere because ilhan
omar was expecting some kind of apology and she was just kind of doubling down on her stance and
like being like okay i'm sorry to a point but, don't make me say apologies like out loud in public.
That's not going to happen.
Because I honestly didn't have a backpack.
And so like, I don't feel like I was lying because you didn't have a backpack.
Also, like that is like so tired.
It's like it's like a stupid meme I see on TikTok a lot, too.
So part of me almost feels like she's getting some of her writing ideas from TikTok videos that are that are whack.
But they go on.
100% dude, 100% Lauren Boe bobert is like wake up on tiktok
like oh she's like oh there's of course of course she's like scrolling through the all the girls
who are like i didn't get my vaccination but here's a picture of my fake vax card right exactly
smart right or even like just stupid dance memes or someone would be like this person handed me a
backpack and ran away and like it's like a dude like in a dark outfit
meant to look like a terrorist and like these are dancing like wait what and it cuts i love those
dances or it's like someone's like doing the cry baby and they're like did you know trauma can
affect your childhood right so you know this is the thing the ground she bobert isn't you know
obviously she's not a politician she's just a mascot for these people who only want to see
bigots get up to a microphone and just attack people.
And the New York Times, again, we're talking about both sizing.
This is how they, you know, clearly Lauren Boebert has a track record of ridiculously bigoted, Islamophobic, racist statements.
But the New York Times describes the spat like this.
The two women, this quote, the two women have their fans and detractors, but they could not be more different.
Miss Omar, Somali refugee and leader of the House Progressive Caucus, represents a diverse and liberal district that includes most of Minneapolis and its near in suburbs.
reopened during the pandemic against state orders and where servers are encouraged to carry guns unsealed unseated a five-term republican in 2020 by running far to his right in a largely
rural mountain district and you're like okay and then like meanwhile people uh they have different
positions but they're doing the same job right and you're like this is again wow way to you know
carry water for for her but then you'll see like other articles around this
that were trying to paint, like,
act like as if Ilhan Omar has blood on her hands too,
just because she was critical of Israeli policies.
And like, that's whole,
like while also platforming like Boebert's dumb quotes
and like other shit that she said in defense,
like how she's like, I'm a strong Christian woman
and Omar is a terrorist that hates jewish people and police and not much analysis after that
just be like that's what she says so there's your news folks it's funny that she was talking shit
about like someone who she can't even like look in the eyes at work because yeah she's like yeah
and that's when i told him you're not the boss of me
fuck boy all right right it's like uh you didn't say that shit man no you're right and i pointed
my finger in her face and she she cried she cried in that elevator right and she'll say to you that
she didn't but you know i saw her cry she cried i seen it she called her mom right after and she's
like she was really mean to me again but yeah But yeah, that's some Debo energy that Ilhan Omar was telling her.
She's like, you don't even look me in the eye.
You turn your eyes down when you see me.
That's Ellen shit.
Yeah.
Right.
And also, you didn't find all my toothpicks, did you?
That's right.
You're slipping on your cleaning job.
I saw she after the shooting on the set of rust she wore a
t-shirt that said uh guns don't kill people alec baldwin does which is uh pretty cold and i think
uh took away kind of the wrong message from what happens when you have a loaded gun on a set
wait ellen did no no lauren bober oh yeah that would have been funny Ellen did? No, no. Lauren Boebert. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That would have been funny.
That would have been fucking funny if Ellen just goes right wing.
Whoa.
Whoa. Whoa.
Ellen could be president if she went right wing, 100%.
If Ellen DeGeneres went
alt-right, she'd be president
in a second. Oh, she'd be smashing the suburbs.
She'd be like,
Democrats, I'm gay, so I've got you by the throat.
Republicans, check it out.
I'm rich as fuck and I'm a monster.
Also, and look at me kissing on George W. Bush at the football game.
I'm a lesbian, but not when it comes to George W. Bush.
He's my trade.
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You know, he's our philosopher king here on the daily
zeitgeist elon musk love to quote him love uh everything he has to say sir elon sir elon what
what a what a genius he's he's cool he's fun this is me doing an impression of like 20 of males in america right now anyway pretty good impression jack
so there's this uh section of the book wisdom of crowds where they talk about like
how dumb crowds can actually be and they use the challenger disaster as an as a example and it's
just this like slow motion train wreck where like a handful of really
obstinate leaders like are told multiple times hey these o-rings are malfunctioning when they get
below this temperature there's a very good chance that launch date it'll be below this temperature
people could die and they just kind of took that as like okay that's one opinion however we want to
launch on this date so uh who else has some thoughts and just it was like half of the people
in the room or maybe not half but like a handful of the people who are in the room like planning
this launch were like knew that it was going to explode when it took off but they just like would
not fucking listen to them because they had a deadline to hit and also because the shuttles
hadn't blown up to that point and so they thought they were like kind of invincible but this is
exactly what producing is like this is like everything that i've ever produced is there's
three people going we can't do that we don't have the money and it's not going to work. And then three other people going, well, but we really want it. But what if
we did? Okay. But what if we just do? I'm not paying you to tell me what I can't do.
I'm asking you to do the impossible. And if you don't do it, I'm going to be upset,
even though I told you it was impossible. Okay. So you want us to shoot a car chase
with gunfire being exchanged and you don't even want to pay for short-term liability okay i don't know how do you know anything about production so where do you want
to put uh where do you how do you want to attach the camera to the car oh you just want us to run
run alongside the car with the okay someone's gonna hold me by the hip someone holds me by
the hips and i lean out okay anyways this uh this el this Elon Musk story kind of seems like that
on steroids because he
the day after Thanksgiving
you always know a cool boss when he's
sending out a very troubling mean email
the day after Thanksgiving.
Like on a holiday weekend. Yeah, on a holiday weekend.
He is like... Team no sleep.
Guys, SpaceX is gonna go
bankrupt unless you start making these engines faster.
Apparently, they're...
Don't tell people that, dude.
Yeah.
You fucking idiot.
I hope someone's like, good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, but he's basically threatening their livelihood, basically being like, you guys are going to be unemployed this time next year.
If you can't, like, fix guys are going to be unemployed this time next year if you can't fix
this bottleneck in
the supply chain.
These engines are going to be... I can't believe
moving to Texas didn't fix everything for him.
I know. That's why it's like, without the
regulations, I thought he was home free.
But these are the
engines that are supposed to be sending
their rockets into
orbit next year. That's the thing they're supposed to be sending their rockets into orbit next year. That's the thing
they're supposed to be doing is
launching both.
And his goal
is to be launching
these rockets into orbit every two weeks
in 2022.
Just like firing them up at the
sky like a fucking firework
show. Is he going to be in one?
Well, that's the thing is like some of them are
going to be going to have people on
board. So it's like he's
reacting to short term
market
indicators like
any CEO does, which is
without any regard for
like what is actually good for the long
term health of the company and more just
like what's going to happen next week,
what's going to happen at the next board meeting and earnings call.
How many times do we have to watch this happen
and have it fully documented?
Like Juicero, Theranos, SpaceX.
It's not different. It's the same.
You just lie and you say you have a technology that you don't.
People give you a bunch of money and then you go, all right, engineers, make it happen.
And they go, actually, we can't.
Right.
And then you lose all your money.
It's not like we haven't seen this happen before.
Right.
Yeah.
I just love his.
We're literally having the Theranos trial now.
Like what?
What world are people living in
Yeah
He made a flamethrower
It's weird I think because he has a track record
Of other things that happened
Then it's like there's like this
But he has a much larger track record
Of saying other things are going to happen
That didn't happen
And it's like okay yeah PayPal
PayPal works yes
What about the tunnels What about the fucking flamethrowers or
whatever the fuck hey i don't know all this other shit hyperloop yeah hyperloop nothing else works
nothing else happened yeah and the paypal is a website it wasn't ambitious yeah he so this seems to be kind of in keeping with Tesla also where Tesla was, you know, can make a cool car, but they can't make it fast enough to like be a profitable company.
And so he just basically gets mad at the people producing it and like starts threatening them and doing like all sorts of wild shit.
threatening them and doing like all sorts of wild shit like there's stories of him threatening his you know employees who were like these conditions are inhumane man he's just like yeah uh all right
you're fired and okay i'm about to show you inhumane i'm gonna show up at your house on
thanksgiving and uh yeah go fuck yourself but yeah it's it like, I don't know. He seems like he will take a cool
idea and then just be like, yeah, we're going to be doing this at scale. And the fact that that is
impossible, be damned. So yeah, it just seems like he doesn't care about the people who work for him.
He cares about the end goal. And oftentimes his end goal is unrealistic. You know,
the safety of Tesla cars has come into question. And this is a higher stakes version of that. And
it just it just seems like this is maybe why we thought privatizing space travel wasn't a great
idea. But we'll see. You know, maybe it'll work out great. Who knows? Well, speaking of technology malfunctions, we had a blackout.
Sarah is back with us.
She is on her iPhone.
Hello.
Hello.
And I'm not going to blame it all on Elon Musk, but it certainly didn't help.
I think he heard it.
Grimes definitely had a hand in that, for sure.
Yes, for sure.
Yeah.
She's made herself virtual
and she is traveling through the internet
protecting the good name of
yeah she's a little fairy
she used to go on TikToks about
Elon Musk and defend him
yeah I know those were the days
yeah
well sorry June
it has been such a pleasure having you.
Where can people find you and follow you?
I am on Instagram at Corpse Flower.
That's Corpse, F-L-O-U-R.
And I am on the internet at SarahJune.online.
That's my website.
There it is.
And you can send me an email.
You can send me money.
You can, you know, just watch all my videos.
Sometimes people do that.
And then they tell me, I went on your website and I watched all your videos.
And I go, oh, wow.
And then we don't really talk about it in more detail because I don't know how to respond.
But that could be you.
Could be you, dear leader.
I said dear leader
dear listener dear damn we're doing a north korean podcast now and is there a tweet or some other work
of social media you've been enjoying there is uh because because my computer's uh fucked up now i
will probably be paraphrasing it but the tweet that i that i did want to share with you was uh
from jake flores at feral Jokes. And it was something like,
oh, the woke mob is now coming for Ghislaine Maxwell,
a queer woman I see.
That's amazing.
A good one.
Miles, where can people find you?
What's the tweet you've been enjoying?
Man, find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey.
Also, the other show, 4 for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra,
uh,
where we talk 90 day fiance and doing that whole damn thing.
Uh,
some tweets I like first one is from,
uh,
at Baba Duke Newcomb,
Bella Lugosi's dad tweeted.
Oh,
you don't care.
You don't care that organized gangs are robbing home Depot.
Well,
I bet you'll care when they rob your house.
Dude, why would 10 guys come to my house to steal hammers?
Name one reason why that would happen.
And one more from at Jamie Loftus help.
Do you think Sally Rooney's husband reads her sex scenes and is like, yeah, exactly.
For the literati out there.
Yeah, yeah. Alright, let's see.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore
O'Brien. Liking
tweets such as these. Kate
Lambert tweeted, one person on every flight
from Chicago to Paris should be allowed to scream
mid-flight, Kevin!
Always a good bit to
shout that as the
plane is about to take off.
Radz tweeted, me,
God, I love how you feel inside me.
Surgeon, why is she awake?
And then
Hannah Dickinson tweeted, what's upsetting about
hearing my neighbor have sex is realizing
she can hear me ask my dog if we're best
friends multiple times a
day you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have
a facebook fan page and our website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our
footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well
as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?
Oh, man, let's go out on a nice little track out of Kingston, Jamaica,
from my bygone era.
This is Derek Harriot, H-A-R-R-I-O-T-T,
with his track called The Loser.
It's like a pretty famous track if you're into, you know,
if you're into the reggae styles.
But it's just got like, I mean, I think it's from the Psychedelic Train, that album.
So, yeah, maybe late 60s.
Anyway, great track, great artist, good vibes to take you into this December to Remember event.
Just interesting that they took the same approach as the cw to a beck song title
and we're like right now this isn't a loser this is the right all right well the daily
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