The Daily Zeitgeist - Equifax Owes You $125, Ilhan > Qanon 7.29.19

Episode Date: July 29, 2019

In episode 442, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Ellory Smith to discuss how to get your settlement money from Equifax, the dropping of the Epstein files, Ilhan Omar's biggest competitor (not rea...lly), an update on the Cuba sonic attacks, how food delivery companies screw over their workers, a Woodstock 50 update, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. WATCH: "I Can't Go For That"- Daryl Hall, Cee Lo Green2. You Have a Moral Obligation to Claim Your $125 From Equifax3. Equifax owes you a lot more, but here’s how to get $125 from this week’s settlement4. “CLINTON AND GHISLAINE BECAME SUPER CLOSE”: AS THE EPSTEIN SCANDAL SPIRALS, A NEW FOCUS ON OLD NAMES5. Pro-Trump Republican aiming to unseat Ilhan Omar charged with felony theft6. Trump Says Minnesota Can't Stand Ilhan Omar. His Attacks Have Made Her More Popular Than Ever Back Home.7. Were U.S. Diplomats Attacked in Cuba? Brain Study Deepens Mystery8. How Uber Uses Psychological Tricks to Push Its Drivers’ Buttons9. On-Demand Platform Workers Denied Basic Rights10. My Frantic Life as a Cab-Dodging, Tip-Chasing Food App Deliveryman11. How Delivery Apps May Put Your Favorite Restaurant Out of Business12. DoorDash to give tips to delivery drivers after customer outrage13. DEATHS AND INJURIES DON’T SLOW UBER EATS’ RAPID EXPANSION IN MEXICO14. Woodstock 50 Festival Moves to Maryland in Bid to Salvage Event15. WATCH: Beastie Boys - Hey Ladies Paul Nice Remix NEW 2007 Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Monday, July 29th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack Peach Emoji O'Brien. That's courtesy of Zach Van Nuss
Starting point is 00:02:28 commenting on my rear, my posterior. I like that nickname better than my high school nickname, Tank Ass. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host,
Starting point is 00:02:44 Mr. Miles Gray. You're a Miles Gray, and you've gone to Florence, and you talk about it every day. You can rely on the Zach Gang money. You can rely on the Zach Gang money. You've been anywhere. Yep. I've been to Florence, Italy. Yes, you have.
Starting point is 00:03:03 I'm speechless just thinking about it. But there's something when you begin to land and descend into the airport into Florence, or Bologna for that matter, it's still the same general legion. This is what the podcast is, by the way. Now, Ellery, it's changed focus since you were last on. We really shifted gears. It's called Goes to Italy Once, the podcast. It's the travel cast. It's now a memoir you were last on. We really shifted gears. It's called Goes to Italy Once. It's now a memoir of Miles' journey.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Thank you to at Jake the Human for that Hall & Oates unscribed AK. If anyone has a, like, if you can get me with a Hall & Oates I Can't Go For That style AK, I will sing that too because I love that song. Hall & Oates, very, they got some jams that I recently rediscovered. It works for children. Also, there's a show where, what is the name? Daryl Hall? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:56 He called Daryl's house or whatever where musicians come to his barn or whatever and jam. The fucking CeeLo episode. He had CeeLo on? Yes, and he destroys I Can't Go For That, but you can tell Daryl Hall hates that CeeLo can sing so well. Wow.
Starting point is 00:04:11 So CeeLo does the first version, and then when Daryl Hall comes in, he fucking, like, puts his soul on the line. Where can I listen to that? If you just search, yeah, CeeLo, Daryl Hall, I Can't Go For That.
Starting point is 00:04:22 I would be so into that. I'm a huge Hall & Oates fan. Oh, then you will love it because you can see how insecure Daryl Hall is. And he's like, you know what? I can sing too. Right. Because there's a part where he goes, I can't go for being nice and nice. Who's this joker?
Starting point is 00:04:34 He comes in on that line with aplomb. Oh, he comes in while CeeLo's singing? Well, CeeLo does his verse. And I think they agreed. He's like, you'll do the first verse. But you can tell Daryl goes, oh goes oh I'm gonna have to fucking showboat now he's like posture yeah you can see it well that was a
Starting point is 00:04:49 spontaneous episode of what we're fucking yes that is a video we've fucked with office once or twice hey we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith hi thank you so much for having me welcome hey it's great to have you we seat by the hilarious and talented Ellery Smith.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Hi. Hi. Thank you so much for having me. Welcome. Hey, it's great to have you. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about, such as where you can go for a free $125.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Everyone. Anyone. Yeah. Basically, almost everyone. Depending. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to talk about some of these Epstein files that may be dropping soon. The challenger to Ilhan Omar that has already been anointed by the right,
Starting point is 00:05:34 and just generally what Trump's attacks to Ilhan Omar are doing for her popularity at home. I have read the new reporting on the Havana syndrome, the sonic attacks in Cuba. So I'm going to talk about where I stand on that. Where I stand. I like that. The public is dying to know. The public wants to know, must know. We're going to talk about food delivery apps being just... Being so tight, you should try them with our offer code. Right, exactly. And Woodstock 50, slow motion.
Starting point is 00:06:13 That would be funny if it wasn't so possible. Do you know what I mean? Oh, it's possible. It's very possible. You'll be surprised how possible it is when you listen to this episode. But first, Ellery, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:06:28 I think my cat has a prolapsed anus, so I had to Google cat prolapsed anuses this week, and that was really upsetting in a lot of ways. Wait. And that's what you're telling people, right? That's why you Googled that. Yeah, that's right. There was a surprising amount of cartoon hentai around
Starting point is 00:06:44 it, which was upsetting, to say the least. Now, prolapse means that it is coming out, right? Yeah. Part of the butt is coming out. It's turning inside out. Yes. When cats, sometimes their anal glands can get infected, and it'll push it out of the body. Miles, this is bumming you out more than I expected.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm sorry. I'm kind of a... I don't know how to say back on the internet there was a website that would have videos of rotten.com that was another one uh but we got a shout out to rotten.com the original uh no this is even worse oh yeah um and we're the first time i had seen a prolapsed anus yeah and i was shook to my fucking core because I did not know what happened. And it was very frightening to then hear about a cat having a, I have two cats whom I love dearly to think that their b-holes could be inside out is also just very frightening.
Starting point is 00:07:36 How did this happen because of an infection or? I don't think I was partying with other cats. I think I was overreacting. I don't think that that's what happened. Oh, so you just jumped your like prolapsed anus for sure. Well, no, because it was like sticking out of the body a little bit, which I had overreacting. I don't think that that's what happened. Oh, so you just jumped your, like, prolapsed body, and it's for sure. Well, no, because it was, like, sticking out of the body a little bit,
Starting point is 00:07:48 which I had never seen before. Yeah, just hanging. And I feel like I see my cat's butthole a lot. Yeah, right. I can tell when something is off. Yeah. Sure. Non-stop, really.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Non-stop. It's always out. Yeah, what's that live feed you have going on your phone? I have a camera set up so that anywhere he goes. Anywhere he has. It's your screensaver. It's on the end of his tail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It's facing forward. Yeah, so, but I waited a few days because I don't he goes. Anywhere he has. It's on the end of his tail. Spacing out. Yeah, so, but I waited a few days because I don't have any money to take him to the vet. And it cleared up. It seems okay. And it's not like scratching or licking at it. Did you use a home remedy? Yeah. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:08:15 No, I just left it alone. Oh, okay. I'm thinking maybe it was like hemorrhoids or something. I tried to give him like food that would make him go to the bathroom. This is a lot. Prep it. Well, you know, this is the show bathroom. This is a lot. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:26 this is what, this is the show though. This is how we get to know. We know that you are a cat owner, a cat lover. You know what rotten.com is. We know about a fetish that you have. We know that, uh,
Starting point is 00:08:37 no, I'm just kidding. Hentai. Hentai. Uh, and cat butts. There was a lot of Hentai cat butt holes. It was like,
Starting point is 00:08:44 there was a lot of animated, like sex butt holes. It was like, there was a lot of animated sex. Shout out to half of my homeland. And we also know that you will let something, a problem solve itself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Which is important, you know, the human and cat, feline bodies are amazing things. Yeah. What is something you think
Starting point is 00:09:02 is overrated? Live music. Oh, shit. In your face. Go on. As you wear a Guns N' Roses tour shirt. Yeah. Again, it's my dad's.
Starting point is 00:09:12 He thought it was chill, not me. I mean, it can be really, really good. I've been to a few good concerts, but when it's something, I don't mean like a concert necessarily that you seek out, but I feel like live music at coffee shops is sort of intrusive okay thank you for really dialing that in yes and it is also like
Starting point is 00:09:32 uncomfortable like at republic of pie they have anybody can sign up to do like an hour of music an hour yeah and not everybody should right yeah it's like comedy it's like no you don't need an hour i do think that you should have to pass like a psychological evaluation before you're allowed to do an open mic it feels like for comedy
Starting point is 00:09:49 for 100% yeah like a reality show like we should just be checking these people yeah for music too oh boy
Starting point is 00:09:55 but music is different because it's so sincere like when people are really going up and trying to perform it's so sincere and self serious that when it's not good
Starting point is 00:10:03 it's like extra embarrassing like at least with comedy you can sort of be like, that was a joke. Well, yeah, but you might be so empathetic that you're saying that you're like, I'm cringing. Yeah, it hurts me a lot. Yeah. I mean, I like live music, but it's one of those things for me when I agree with the overrated take is sometimes there are artists who are just a completely different creature live. And sometimes that's good. And sometimes it's bad because you're so used to hearing like the studio versions of their music that like they get out there and it's like a whole other thing.
Starting point is 00:10:32 And it's a little bit like. Yeah. Conversely, sometimes you go to a concert and you hear songs from the band that you didn't know and now love. Yeah. Yeah. That happens to sometimes. But coffee shop music. There is.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Has there ever been like a Yelp review that was like, this coffee shop is awesome. The coffee's okay. Right. But the live music that they tend to have there in their randomly assorted selection of like randos who like happen to live near the coffee shop is amazing. And that's why I go there. I feel like it's possible, but it's not likely. It's not likely. Yeah, I don't feel like. And that's the thing is I feel like it's possible but it's not likely. It's not likely. Yeah I don't feel like. And that's the thing is I think that
Starting point is 00:11:07 it's like the lack of curation. Right. Really dilutes the medium. Yeah absolutely. I 100% agree. What is something you think is underrated? Soup. I think we treat soup like not an entree. We treat it like a secondary. Right. You know like a
Starting point is 00:11:24 side. Or a salad. Yeah. Soup or a secondary, you know, like a side. Or a salad. Yeah, soup or a salad. Soup specifically is like, there's so much variation, so many ingredients in it. It's like- Even on a summer day? Well, there's gazpacho.
Starting point is 00:11:35 No, I'm, okay, sure. That's the one thing everyone points to. But I'm saying, could you eat soup? Yeah, oh, I could eat soup like anytime. Yeah, okay. No, I'm saying people put it on a level of salad, and they should not because it is a savory, warm- But also I think that-
Starting point is 00:11:49 Sticks to your bones. Recently, we have been elevating the salad. Yeah, that's true. They're like go-to DIY salads place, but there's- Yeah, but most of them aren't great. Yeah, right? Except for soup plantation, which is hard to go to for obvious reasons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Right. There's only three. Yeah. But shout out to the mini soft serve there. Yes. I used to go there a lot for lunch when I worked on the west side. Salad went like highbrow and soup is still plantation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Soup is fucking like, you know, Great Depression meal line food. People like rate it as like a lower food, but it's, there's so much to do with it. So much. Now, where does a stew come in? See, that's where I get a little. Oh. Because I think that it's, there's so much to do with it. So much. Now, where does a stew come in? See, that's where I get a little. Oh. Because I think that it's.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Pardon me. Because I think that a good soup is like chunky and has stuff in it, but that like borders on the line of a stew. So it's a real gray area. So it's more about the broth to solids ratio. Yes. Okay. I like a good 60-40
Starting point is 00:12:45 solids. Oh, so 40% broth. Okay. I thought about it a whole lot. I respect that. I love stews. I only recently started making stews. Do you have a crackpot? No, I'm just going old school.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Like they used to on the planes. We were both very impressed by that. Yeah. I should make it. I make this Guinness stew. Oh, boy. What's in it? It's beef.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Just Guinness. Just hot Guinness. I microwave a bottle of Guinness and burn my mouth. No, it's mostly, you know, like thyme and your usual aromatics and things like that. But really the secret is you get a nice chuck roast, you know, because there's a lot of connective tissue that breaks down when you cook the stew. So you don't have to use a roux to thicken up the broth. Like it's already thick from all the connective tissue breaking down. Then on top of that, I'll put some marrow bones in there to add just another level, another depth, another level of richness to the stew.
Starting point is 00:13:46 That's a very heightened stew. Yeah. That's some foodie shit. Well, you just read a little bit and then, you know, shout out to American Butcher, you know, that account on Instagram. You learn a lot about meat. Is the connective tissue like the tendons that boils down well? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Like you'll see like a chuck, like you wouldn't really necessarily put that on the grill and eat that because there's so much tissue. And it's like you'll be chewing on shit. But when you stew it down, that turns into the thickness. How long you put it on for? Oh, man. Like a good three hours. Three.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah, it takes a minute. And finally, what is a myth? What is something that people think is true you know to be false? Oh, I think this one is always hard for me, but I was thinking about this today. I think that we're sort of sold the idea that, like, love is enough to make any relationship work. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And that that's just – it basically is a ratio of, like, extraordinary circumstances, extraordinary circumstances and context, right? Like, just because you love somebody doesn't mean they're a good person and that you're good for them.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Right. Yeah, I think that's a really good point seriously yeah you think that love can like conquer all it doesn't i yeah i always make no hold on the point about rom-com hold on hold on you're saying that's not enough yeah yeah no it's not you're saying that's not enough yeah no it's not what if your fights end and you tell each other how much you love each other and you'll never do it again yeah but if you keep getting into the same fights
Starting point is 00:15:13 that's what I was saying to her that proves you're the exception to the rule Miles is very mature about his relationships he's a very emotionally developed person unrelated do you have an air mattress I can borrow yes if you really need it go for it He's immature about his relationships. Yeah, yeah. He's a very emotionally developed person. Unrelated, do you have an air mattress I can borrow?
Starting point is 00:15:28 Yes. If you really need it, go for it. Thank God. Yeah. No, that's true, though. I think a lot of people do, all jokes aside, and if you listen to Comedy Bang Bang, all jokes aside, as they say, they, yeah, there is, you do meet people who, like, brute force their relationship with just, like, this North Star of, like, like yeah but we got love and that's all that matters right and it's like yo what i just saw well i don't even know where the love fucking was what i saw was like look like about to be a ufc
Starting point is 00:15:54 fight over like someone's spilling something yeah yeah love i think we're fed the idea in movies that we will have, you know, there will be loving relationships and then external circumstances will, like, come in and get in the way, but ultimately, like, love will conquer the day. And it's sort of the opposite. Like, when you're fully in love, you don't let external circumstances get in the way at first.
Starting point is 00:16:24 And then, like, you, I don't know, there aren in the way at first and then like you uh i don't know there aren't enough movies about people just like being too in love to realize all the things that are wrong with the relationship yeah and there also aren't enough movies about people who uh like are actually communicative about working through do you know what i mean yeah yeah like recognizing their problems and then like watching them fix it. Yeah. You'll never see it like in a rom-com. Like, hold on, hold on. Is this really about the thing that I did? Is this really about the bet that I took to, that I could make you hot?
Starting point is 00:16:54 That I could fuck you and no one thought I could? Is this really about that? I can't believe you're mad. I was kidding. I know. Exactly. But it is funny. Like when you, when you sort of mature a bit in a relationship and you're able to sort
Starting point is 00:17:04 of normally like you'll think a fight really is about, well, how come you let the mail in the mailbox? Right. And it's like, you know what? I'm sorry. This is not about the mail. I have a feeling like I may have neglected some other thing and this is just an opportunity for you to express that displeasure about that. How may I help you? How may I improve?
Starting point is 00:17:22 All of me and my wife's arguments start about me leaving the toilet seat up. It's every single time, man. Especially when you poop. Yeah. That's a big problem. Why? You just don't like the seat? I don't mind that except for sometimes I won't check.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Right. And then you like. That's the thing. Yeah, yeah. And then you just fall right in. You have to be fished out. Yeah. Somebody has to come with WD-40 and freeze me out. Your life alert. You have to use your life out. Yeah. Somebody has to come with WD-40
Starting point is 00:17:45 and freeze me out. Your life alert. You have to use your life alert. I need help. No, I just think that was like the big 80s, 90s comedy like thing
Starting point is 00:17:55 that men and women were always fighting about. Toilet seat up or down. I love jokes about the differences between men and women. Yeah. Men be like.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Yeah. Men be like pissing all over the floor. Yes. Consistently. My bad. And women be shopping. Women be shopping and men piss everywhere and wear the same underwear for nine years until the elastic turns to
Starting point is 00:18:15 fucking dust. Yeah. We do do that. Yo. I'm starting to get that age where I have old underwear that Her Majesty be like, what the fuck is up with this underwear? The band is all fucked up. I'm like, I got this right when I got into college. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And I will never let go of this. That's a reason to let it go. Yeah, I know. And then, you know what it is? Part of me, like, I don't, I feel like, and I'm actually only probably expressing this out loud for the first time. I think I have anxiety buying underwear. Oh, interesting. Even though you can buy it online yeah i don't know you know what it is i feel like i have to go inside online shopping yeah you know why because it's for new child because
Starting point is 00:18:57 i would have to go i would have to go with my mom to the mall and shit so you just have i want these and we're just like why you need that right like i these. And we're just like, why you need that? Right. Like, I don't think you're a medium. I think you're a fancy underwear. I think you're a baby's tiny. And I'm like, no, I'm 14.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I will have a nightmare. It was a nightmare. This is some latent embarrassment. Yeah. You need to work on. I do think men in general should like, Oh my God. Miles is weeping.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Uh, I do think men like things that are like men typically uh complain about women doing like shopping or like things like that like are things men should do more like should pay more like if you have an argument first like be like should i be doing more of that instead of uh well Well, most arguments are about, like, how I don't need to fucking change. And you do. Right. Exactly. And that's where a relationship fails. If you're unable to just sort of be like, yeah, this is a work in progress.
Starting point is 00:19:55 I'm not saying I'm the finished article by any means. So if I have some blind spots, allow me to, you know, reconfigure and refire. Two people should want to be, like, on that journey together. Yeah. Like, self-betterment. Yeah. And also be, like, willing to acknowledge that, like, and also be willing to acknowledge that I'm not doing that well, you're not doing that well, but we can encourage each other to start doing better.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And it's not a battle of who is right. No, no. And that's the thing. You can be right or you can be happy. Am I right or am I happy? Well, I feel this way about writers' rooms too, where it's like there are some people who are so precious about the things
Starting point is 00:20:25 that they bring to the table that they're not willing to collaborate or like change any of those things and it's true the relationship too it's like if you think that nothing can be improved upon you're not going to do very well yeah because it's a collaboration it's about like the teamwork and then you'll hear anything that is like that is like sways from your worldview or your perception of your work or your relationship as an attack on you. Yes. And then immediately
Starting point is 00:20:47 activate your defense mechanisms. Yeah. But also, yeah, especially when like, your partner is offering you support and being like, I want to help you
Starting point is 00:20:54 because you do this. It's so easy to internalize that and be like, oh, well, you think I'm wrong because I did actually lie. Oh,
Starting point is 00:20:59 why don't you leave me like, like everyone does. if you think I'm so bad, like, why don't you just break up with me? But it's actually like, no, they want,
Starting point is 00:21:04 they want to like, help you and support you and. Fine, bad, like why don't you just break up with me? But it's actually like, no, they want to like help you and support you. Fine, whatever. Because the homie Ellie reason to let me borrow her air mattress, I don't need to sleep here today. Right. Tomorrow maybe, but not today. Tomorrow maybe, tonight.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I think generally, why don't you just leave me like everyone does is an emotionally mature way to deal with something. That's the most manipulative shit. Oh, yeah, just leave me. Hold on, motherfucker. Just jump. Okay. If you find yourself saying that, you're in the right.
Starting point is 00:21:31 No, no. Leave that room. Yeah, bro. Keep on trucking, JJ. You'll find somebody eventually. All right. Should we do our public service announcement? Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:43 If you contracted mesothelia... No, I feel like this is the equivalent of that, the zeitgang equivalent of that. If you did that Equifax check, I guess back in 2017? Yeah, right before we launched. Right, when Equifax just spilled all our data everywhere. Oh, we should release that, because I think we talked about it in a test episode.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Oh, that's right. If y'all want to hear it. We recorded like two months of test episodes that never got released. That's on our Patreon. I was going to say, put it behind the paywall. But yeah, if you got hit. If you got hit, Equifax owes you $125.
Starting point is 00:22:18 At minimum. At min. So yeah, if you don't remember, there was that website. They're like, sorry, we had a massive data breach. You can just put in your social security number and your last name and we'll tell you. I remember going on there and it was like, sorry, do you want free identity protection from y'all?
Starting point is 00:22:37 That was after. No. I do remember that. And then once they got that information, they sold the data? No, no, no. So once they, they had it from just their general business, which is doing credit scores, right? Right. Equifax, this whole thing.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But once their data got breached, they were offering people like, sorry, your data breached. We also have an identity protection thing that we'll give you for free. At first they were trying to sell it. At first they were trying to sell it. But that's how they mined people's information. No, they got it from when you're just doing a credit check and those other things. Like you need Equifax to get a credit check to like buy a car, buy a house. Like they, so they have everyone and you don't have an option.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Like it's not an opt-in thing. No. If you were trying to buy something expensive, basically, Equifax has your information and they were just like, whoops. Yeah. And there's millions of people and everyone was like, how the fuck did, that was like sort of the beginnings of people were like, hold on, man, we have,
Starting point is 00:23:28 these people have way too much of our data and they don't give a fuck about it. Is this pre-Cambridge Analytica story? Around that time, yeah. I think when people were really getting wise to Cambridge Analytica. So then at that point, you know, there were all these lawsuits
Starting point is 00:23:41 and finally the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission, is like, y'all gonna have to settle this shit for around $700 million. So, Zeitgeist. Doesn't seem like enough. Go to the website. We will give you the thing in the footnotes. But if you just search I think it's just EquifaxBreachSettlement.com If you go to
Starting point is 00:23:58 EquifaxBreachSettlement.com you can go into like the I would like to and you can first see if my information was impacted. Then you put in your info. You put in like the last six of your social, your last name. I know gas. But guess what? Everybody already got that shit.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And then if you're eligible, you file a claim. And it's like a couple seconds and they have to give you your hundred twenty five dollars. Now it does not just end there. The reason why I'm telling people and we're telling people about this is that these companies need to fucking feel this shit. Right. Like I know a lot of people, there's criticism like that's not enough. It's not. And it isn't.
Starting point is 00:24:32 But it'll really not be enough if people just go like, don't do it. Yeah. It's $125. Yeah. If you don't do it. Yeah, run me my money for sure. 100%. So you can though, $125 is the bare minimum.
Starting point is 00:24:43 If you can demonstrate other kinds of damages, for example, if you had to purchase something like like a credit monitoring service or you can you can submit that receipt and get reimbursed, you can get up to twenty thousand dollars. and you spent a month of your time protecting yourself and undoing the damage or whatever, you can bill them hourly, like you're a fucking lawyer. For $25 an hour. Be like, hey, this is how much I make for my salary. I wasn't doing that for this many hours because of your fuck-up, so you owe me $20,000. So go make Equifax fucking pay.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Is Facebook going to have to distribute their settlement as well? So you owe me $20,000. So go get your, make Equifax fucking pay. Right. Is Facebook going to have to like distribute their settlement as well? I don't know. That's a good point. I don't know how that's going to work. Was it a class action lawsuit? I don't know. I think it was a no.
Starting point is 00:25:35 It was an FTC violation. Yeah. I think they're just going to have to pay up to Uncle Sam. Yeah. That just goes to that dude who has the giant Reese's mug. Oh, that's FTC. He's going to buy an even bigger one. Oh, sorry, FCC.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah, yeah. Either way, they should buy him a bigger novelty. So, yeah, look, please. This is the world we're in where, sadly, we're going to have to go to Equifax fucking, what is it? Equifax, sorry, breachesettlement.com. I bet you can find it. Just Google it. Yeah, if you can find it. Just Google it. Yeah, if you just Google it.
Starting point is 00:26:06 But I want people to pause the fucking shit right now. Like, just go get your money. Get your money. Go get your fucking money. Make them feel it. Yeah. Tell us what you bought with your $125, and we'll shout you out.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Oh, dude, that would be a sick flex on Twitter. Like, Equifax Settlement Flex. Right. Where you're like, what you do with your $125? Do it. Please, if you actually have bills you need with your 125 uh do it please if you and then if you actually have bills you need to pay please use it for that don't buy something ridiculous and yeah share it with us put a down payment on 28 inch rims yeah i don't think there's
Starting point is 00:26:38 even a car built for that all right we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan
Starting point is 00:28:10 Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark vs. Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network
Starting point is 00:29:38 is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained this game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better listen to the making of a rivalry caitlyn clark versus angel reese on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get and we're back so just continuing with uh jeffrey epstein because this story is wild and uh i think only gonna get bigger from here we should all say our goodbyes to bill
Starting point is 00:30:58 clinton right now yeah oh yeah i've said it we should mourn him. Peace to Billy. Yeah. So the big thing that's going to happen or should happen in the next 10 days to two weeks is these 2,000 documents are going to be released to the public. So they were part of a class action lawsuit from a woman who at the time was a girl named Virginia Giafree. who at the time was a girl named Virginia Giafree. She did a class action lawsuit against basically his madam, who's also a super rich, comes from a super rich family. Oh, that was the woman who was keeping his Rolodex? Yeah, Gisela Maxwell or something.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Anyways, they settled out of court, and part of the settlement was like, we need to keep all these documents sealed up. Right. and part of the settlement was like, we need to keep all these documents sealed up. And a judge was like, actually, it's probably more important to the public that they see this than it is damaging to you. So right now, all sorts of powerful people are suing to try to keep those documents from being released. Everybody's implicated. Right. So I just want to read being released. Everybody's implicated. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:06 So, I mean, I just want to read this description of who's implicated. I think we already have, but it bears repeating. The secrets contained in the documents have been the subject of speculation, and they describe episodes of alleged abuse by Epstein and appearances by, quote, numerous prominent American politicians, powerful business executives, foreign presidents, a well-known prime minister, and other world leaders. So, yeah, we need to know about that shit. Yeah, and your boy hurt his neck in jail last week, too. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Have you seen? There's some great tweets about it. But they are putting the idea around that he was assaulted he's in like he's in a private cell 23 hours a day oh really he is in a private cell because we were wondering like now right oh i did oh i didn't consider that maybe he had been moved after well they well at the time they said his cellmate was a cop who had committed murder right or at least that was somebody who had access to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It was very confusing how he managed to get hurt while nobody was looking if he's in a maximum security thing. Yeah. It wasn't clear. But also in prisons, pedophiles are typically targeted. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but I don't think he's in Gen Pop or anything. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:33:23 There's no way. Also, can we talk about his six months where he was in jail, but he was able to go to work? He was at home. He had to go in on the weekends or something. He got to leave town. What kind of privilege is... Yeah, exactly. Well, and I think that shows you, right?
Starting point is 00:33:36 When you're the person who's holding all that fucking compromise, basically, on everyone, you can maneuver through the legal system the way he has. And now, luckily, we're at a point where we're taking this shit seriously, hopefully, because who knows what kind of other shit can happen down the line, as demonstrated with what Alex Acosta did in his settlement with him prior. But now, I think, hopefully, we're approaching that moment where we can actually begin to hold people accountable. There's a peening, his pilots, the pilots of the quote Lolita Express where people.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Oh my goodness. That's a whole, like that name alone is enough to raise red flags. Yeah. But there's this documentary, it's called Open Secret and it's about pedophiles in Hollywood. And it's about how children agents will sell like shirtless headshots on eBay for hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Yeah. And because it's like just a headshot,
Starting point is 00:34:28 it's not child pornography, but it's like very close. Everybody should watch it. It's really interesting. And it implicates a lot of people that are still working in Hollywood. And that was the one that the, the creator of the film wasn't able to get any kind of distribution. No,
Starting point is 00:34:41 it's on Vimeo. You have to watch it. Right. Yeah. You have to like go search it out, but I really recommend it. Jesus Christ. So I am worried that they are not going to be able
Starting point is 00:34:50 to release these because so many powerful lawyers are going to be suing to keep these documents under wraps. Right. So this is when we need a WikiLeaks that is not a Putin puppet. Right, exactly. This is when we need... Anonymous needs to get in there and
Starting point is 00:35:07 figure this shit out because the lawyers who are part of the... who are in the process of building the case against him say this already is bigger than the Weinstein thing. This is going to be a huge
Starting point is 00:35:24 bomb drop on the world. Bring it, man. Yeah. Bring it. Bring it out. Bring it out in the light. Yeah. All right, let's talk about the rights difficulty
Starting point is 00:35:35 dealing with the existence of Ilhan Omar. Yeah, I mean, right now, I think they're sharing doctored videos of her again. Oh, are they? Yeah, just completely out of context shit. The usual. But, you know, the big news last week was a lot of interest around the woman
Starting point is 00:35:52 that's running against her. And who better to defeat the evil Ilhan Omar than an upstanding white conservative Republican woman who's unwavering in her morals and the pursuit of justice. Now, let's look at this woman. 31-year-old special ed teacher, Danielle Stella. I think this is a perfect fit.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Immediately, I always give special ed teachers a huge tip of the cap. And she's firing on all cylinders. Get ready, Ilhan. Republican, check. Justice-oriented, check, because she's a QAnon truther. Morally sound, check. She's been charged with felony theft. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:36:31 So who better? Who better to step in the ring? It's easy to spend $2,400 at a Target. Do you know what I mean? She probably had four nice things. No, she had 279 nice things. Okay, so this woman, Danielle, she went to a Target and she stole items valued at $2,327.97. Okay, we have receipts from a Target store.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And this was just like southwest of Minneapolis. Apparently, she did the self-scan, scanned a couple shits, and then walked straight out. The shit she scanned for was around $50. And she had 279 items. She cruised straight out. They caught her. They're like, we're calling the cops.
Starting point is 00:37:15 They came. They arrested her. She claims she's not guilty. She says in her police statement that, quote, she remembers arriving at Target to purchase items but nothing else. She says that due to her post-traumatic stress disorder that she, quote, she remembers arriving at Target to purchase items but nothing else. And she says that due to her post-traumatic stress disorder that she, quote, normally goes to Target with someone because of anxiety around people.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Now, I don't want to, I'm not going to speculate on whatever her mental state is. And if that's the deal, okay. But I think there's another thing we should look at, too. But I think there's another thing we should look at, too. She also, in her insistence on the rule of law and calling Ilhan Omar criminal, court records say in 2009, she pleaded guilty to driving while impaired from alcohol and fleeing a police officer. But later on, they knocked it down to a gross misdemeanor because she had a plea deal. Got it.
Starting point is 00:38:12 So, again, tell me on Ilhan Omar's when she was wilding out at Target doing the self-scan finesse that many people have been guilty of since the advent of self-scanning. But you're supposed to, like, do maybe one item every day. Yeah. You're not supposed to do. 279? That's a lot. Right. That ratio doesn't make sense. Also, it's too many.
Starting point is 00:38:21 At a certain point, like, if you, you know, there usually is an attendant in that area from my experience when I'm honestly self-checking out at Target. And unless you, unless your friend who fakes some kind of a seizure episode
Starting point is 00:38:35 to distract them so you can scan your other items, they're usually watching. Well, you have a friend fake a seizure and then you start scanning your items.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Yeah. Just to be honest, to show them like if you look on the tape, even doing that, I was still paying. That's how upstanding I am. No, but, like, you'd think that if someone comes up with 279 items, you're like, oh, you know what? This is only for 15 or less or whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Usually there's, like, a threshold, I believe. Right. But that's where, I don't know, you know. I mean, that's multiple carts worth of things. Well, unless you've got a ton of little chapsticks. I don't know. I mean, that's multiple carts worth of things. Well, unless you got a ton of little chapsticks. I don't know. I'm really trying to think of how you could. To resell or just for the apocalypse? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:12 How do you? Well, she also was charged with another theft. There was another theft incident where she took like $40 worth of like cat tick medicine. Oh. And straight up and put it under her bag and cruised out the grocery store with it. Medicine can get expensive quick, especially for animals. For cats and their ticks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:30 So, you know, shout out to you. We get it how Big Pharma's working. But for whatever reason, I'm really curious what those 279 items were. Yeah, me too. Me too. Because that's a lot. It is a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:39 I wonder if they were, because it'd be so hard to steal something big, like Target sells furniture. Yeah, and if you're really trying to swipe shit, like no one's ever, like, were you trying to do the world record for shoplifting? Yeah. Some people don't know how to microdose it, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Right. Exactly. Just take a big old fat rip of theft fuel. But anyway, so again, respect to Ilhan Omar. I'd imagine that maybe they'll find someone else to challenge her. But, you know, considering what, how down in the dumps she is in her district right now? Yeah, she's, Trump loves to talk about how unpopular she is in her district. She's actually incredibly popular and become even more popular because of Trump's attacks.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Right. Yeah. So, I mean, people, there were critics earlier this year kind of complaining about her comments about Israel and people, there was even some support for a Democrat to primary her the next time she was up for election, specifically a Jewish person, because there's, you know, this is... Right, because they want to conflate israel criticisms of israel with anti-semitism yeah that whole thing made me so angry because it's like are we not
Starting point is 00:40:49 allowed to criticize israel like what's the same thing with anti-semitic what what they like what the squad are criticizing palestine anti-islamic yeah yeah for sure but we don't but that's not how the pendulum swings in this country it's the same reason why when you have these progressive politicians who are like pointing out all the bullshit that the United States does in their foreign policy, they're like, well, they hate America. Right. It's loving a place doesn't mean you turn your brain off to all the bullshit. And in fact, I think actually loving a place or person means like being able to be critical about the things that they do. And not taking it as an attack. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:23 And being able to like, bring it back around and being able to recognize the problems and being committed to working on them. Like I have, I think, especially like because of the rhetoric I use online, I think a lot of people think I hate America. I have great hope for America
Starting point is 00:41:35 and I like it so much that I want us to be able to do better. Right. Do you know what I mean? So it's like when somebody is calling out actions of our present or of our past that are like less favorable, that's doing us
Starting point is 00:41:45 a favor 100 you're looking at you're you're not standing idly by when you're like this could actually be a much more a fairer place for the people that live here yeah i fucking hate it fuck you i'm just gonna be angry yeah who's more balanced somebody who like goes to therapy and actually looks at the flaws in their own life and in their own behavior or somebody who is just like blind to it. It's just like, no. Fuck it, fuck it, fuck it. Fuck you all. What do you mean fucking drone attacks on civilians?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Fuck you. Yeah. And I guess there's a difference of opinion about what's the better way to go through life. Sure. Yeah. But it's the same thing. What's funny also too is like the rhetoric on the right
Starting point is 00:42:20 is sort of like, well, if you don't like it, you can get out. And then also to the people who are seeking asylum, well, if your country is so bad, why don't you go back and fix it? Well, how come that applies to those people who are entering this country but not the people who live here? Yes, and also the problem with the argument, if you don't like it, leave it, that applies to other stuff too. Abortion is the law of the land.
Starting point is 00:42:38 If you don't like it, leave it. Gay marriage is the law of the land. If you don't like it, leave it. So that stuff goes both ways. Yeah, but again, that's why it's so disingenuous to even begin to try and like – or like the responses from these people are so disingenuous when you begin to sort of mind that. That's my problem is like I get baited so easily and like it just infuriates me and I don't have the language around it to really like be able to engage on stuff. Do you know what i mean like yeah well i think you're sort of you're giving these people the benefit of the doubt that they're here to honestly discuss a problem and
Starting point is 00:43:10 maybe you're saying okay your first your first shot in this debate is this really awful take let's get to what you mean and really all they don't really mean shit it just means i'm hateful i'm fearful that's all i fucking know that's all i'm gonna be yeah but don't you have compassion for people who are coming from a place like that? Because it's like the world has been bad to them also. It depends on the issue, for sure. But I think there are also people who, for whatever reason, they have a worldview where people of color are inferior, deserve no rights. And I don't know. It's not your job to convince them.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Right. Well, in a way, I understand that there are probably external factors like the economy and things like that that put someone in a place that are more susceptible to believing rhetoric like it's the immigrants or, you know, welfare queens and shit like that. Sure. I understand that. But if you still go on to then be like, oh, no, man. Yeah. Like this. This kid deserved to be killed or that.
Starting point is 00:43:59 That's what I'm like. No, no, no, no, no. See, if you're invested in my destruction, I have no fucking time to even engage you. And why should you? Yeah. That's kind of unforgivable. See, if you're invested in my destruction, I have no fucking time to even engage you. And why should you? Yeah. It's that simple. If you actually come off as like an ignorant person who doesn't know better, I might have the wherewithal to begin, you know, deconstructing your beliefs a little bit.
Starting point is 00:44:17 But even then... You can't go around teaching everybody who doesn't know. Do you know what I mean? And that's like not... Like, I feel like a lot of being a woman, specifically in comedy where there aren't a lot of women. It's like people, well, like you don't have to teach everybody how to change. Like everybody's on a different spot in the journey of feminism, right? Like people are working, I think, generally towards like knowing more.
Starting point is 00:44:39 But you can't help everybody in the process because you've got your own shit to do. Oh, 100%. Yeah. but you can't help everybody in the process because you've got your own shit to do. Oh, 100%. Yeah. And I think the only thing, what I can do is at the very least
Starting point is 00:44:48 treat people how I feel like everyone else should be treating each other. That's my first step of trying to spread that and hope to be some kind of, people see that like, oh shit, I wasn't expecting this person to show compassion to that person. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah, because that's how it should be. But even the people who were critical of her earlier in the year, like this BuzzFeed News article went and interviewed them, be but even the people who were critical of her earlier in the year like the this buzzfeed news article went and like interviewed them people who were like outspoken critics of her like community leaders and they were like we're not saying shit now because everybody in the community has like rallied behind her because like so you know people say that trump is playing to his base by attacking her but he's also playing to hers like her base a lot of her base of her constituents yeah yeah it was so sweet it's like
Starting point is 00:45:33 beetle mania like people fucking love her that's what they just say that like they went to a uh a street fair with her and said it was just like intense the the amount of love for her in her district and yeah well i think it's the same right like you're saying if you're playing to your base just as much you're gonna inspire the other people to defend what they love or trust or know to be good right yeah yeah i'm glad it i mean clearly also it does bring out the the people out of the woodwork who are islamophes, who have the worst intentions. You know what I mean? Of course.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Sometimes people snitch on themselves. In this age, you know. It's very easy. Very easy to knock yourself out. Knock yourself out. Go ahead. Knock yourself out. It's a song by Jadakiss.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Is it? Knock yourself out? Well, knock yourself out. Produced by the Neptunes, came out in 2001. Okay. I believe. Cool. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job
Starting point is 00:48:03 and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys, I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:49:08 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast,
Starting point is 00:49:24 or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:50:01 She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese
Starting point is 00:50:22 on the iHeartRadio appheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back so also back the havana stuff is back in the news ellery are you aware of this story about no not at all okay so there are diplomats in Havana and China. Oh wait, they like the ear stuff? Yeah. Okay. They suddenly heard a strange sound. They thought they were, they started feeling like wobbly and dizzy. They started, they
Starting point is 00:50:55 basically, they didn't know what was attacking them. They just knew that they heard the sound and then like started feeling weird. And my suspicion is that it's all a sort of a psychosomatic thing that happened because one person like when you read the pro publica story about like how specifically it went from like one person having this experience to like multiple people having it it was all people learning about that initial experience
Starting point is 00:51:25 and somebody being like, those aren't beetles, man. Those aren't cicada. That's too mechanical sounding, the sound that they heard. But we have a recording of the sound that they heard, and experts on insect mating calls were like, those are just beetles. They live in Cuba, guys. Cool.
Starting point is 00:51:46 So that looks bad for them. So the reason this is back in the news is that there is a Journal of American Medicine story that, or JAMA, I think that's what it's called.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah, shout out JAMA. JAMA. The Journal of American Medicine, no. So they published like the 20 brain scans of the people who claimed that they had this attack happen to them. Oh, is that every person?
Starting point is 00:52:11 That's the 20 people who, because a lot of people were coming in and being like, I think I heard something weird and felt weird too. Right. Check my brain. And they were like, no, you didn't have anything happen to you. Like there was like many people that happened to. These are the 20 where they felt like there was actually some neurological basis for what they were talking about. And the New York Times, the way the New York Times is reporting it, they make it seem like this is really strong evidence that this journal article is some sort of evidence that something happened to these people.
Starting point is 00:52:47 But when you look at publications from outside the US, the BBC has this article where they interview somebody from Edinburgh, and the dude is just like, this is the most half-baked bullshit study you've ever seen. He says, there's no evidence of any pathology. This guy, Douglas Fields, who's a neuroscientist. And when you look at the data, there's no coherent syndrome, no pattern. So basically what they're claiming is that there's like the ratio of white matter to gray matter is off in these 20 people when you statistically analyze it with like a control group.
Starting point is 00:53:27 What's white matter? I know that's your brain. It's just like what your brain's made of. I don't know specifically what they do. I just know that like they're the two things your brain is made of. That's tight. Those are the two matters. Yeah, those are the two matters. And what about black lives?
Starting point is 00:53:41 They also matter. Thank you, Ally. Jack took a second. black lives they also matter thank you ally jack took a second black lives also matter it's not a good uh i don't think that would be yeah a good model there shouldn't be a qualifying right no but anyways the dude just makes the point that it's an insanely small uh selection 20 people is just way too small right the physical physical evidence to support the idea that there was some sort of energy beam is completely lacking. And he said the new results should end speculation that the embassy workers were injured by a sonic weapon or something even more exotic. So it's being brought back in as though this is more evidence that something happened.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And it's actually the opposite i think well it's funny where like you have people outside the u.s who aren't invested in a conspiracy exactly communist countries attacking a u.s diplomat where they're like that's what it seems what the fuck are y'all talking about yeah and we're like you see i don't know man like look at their brains like there's something different but they're like what's where's the pattern It is interesting how much American culture loves a conspiracy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Oh yeah. It does seem that we gleam onto it a little bit more than other. Well, I think also too, because we live in a country that outwardly seems so powerful and it is, I guess, militarily, but like it seems like even in the country,
Starting point is 00:54:58 there's so much opportunity and wealth and things like that. And so many people don't experience that. And conspiracies are just that great thing that help explain away why you have no power. so it's like yeah we're already like we it's a i think it's a very fertile environment for that like every community every culture has their shit especially in america of like well you know it's illuminati yeah or like you know it's satan and i don't think somebody got something it had to be some x like extraterrestrial for
Starting point is 00:55:23 some outside super. Right. I don't think the people necessarily have bad motives. I just think that the human brain is an insanely powerful thing that we don't, like medically, we just don't understand the connection between our experiences and the human brain. We just don't have that and so the the two possibilities here are that there it was some sort of inexplicable subjective experience these people had that we don't understand or that there is a physical like sound weapon that uses physics that we we currently believe to be impossible to attack these people like i the one that makes the the more sense to me is that it's just a psychos,
Starting point is 00:56:09 like a psychological thing. Like group hysteria. Yeah. Yeah. I think, or it could be that these people had seasoning on their food for the first time. What the hell is going on with this potato salad?
Starting point is 00:56:22 My ears are ringing. I do love the idea that they went to some foreign country and it couldn't possibly be some bug that they didn't know. Or some animal that they had never seen before. It had to be some like... No, the Cubans are firing ray guns at us. I've seen this a hundred times. But also just the idea that there's no life out there
Starting point is 00:56:39 that I wouldn't know about. Right. I've seen every bug. It's like the same thing with the SkyTicTac. Where we're kind of like what the fuck is that and it's like are we ignorant of some other technology could it be well that's my question we got a lot going on i'm on the other side there where with the ufos i'm like it's gotta be something we don't know about where oh interesting it could just be i think that's why we need a machine to some algorithm to tell us like the opposite of that is true not the opposite i guess guess, but tangentially, that could be true.
Starting point is 00:57:06 It could be some military test grade space thing that you have never heard about. Yeah. And the US government would be dumb enough to test that shit around other aircraft that wouldn't know what the fuck it was. Like, dude, don't test it over there. Yeah. It seems like there's not a ton of communication happening between. Between the Tic Tac group and
Starting point is 00:57:25 the Air Force. I do feel like the more cameras we get, the more there's video of everything all the time. The less evidence we're getting of ghosts and the more evidence we're getting of UFOs. Interesting. Take that for what it is.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Oh, we have less evidence of ghosts? I've never seen any evidence of ghosts. Well, I do feel like camera flares were a really popular, like, oh, that might be a ghost. But as people, as cameras are becoming more commonplace and people understand them, that's sort of going away. Like a sick lens flare. Yeah. Now everyone's like, how do I get the lens to flare? No, no, it's not a ghost.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I mean, yeah, fuck, man. The ghost hunting community needs to fucking step it up. Dude, Ghost Hunters, it's a good ass show. Is it? Yeah, I love it. Wow. For what reason? Zach Baggins is like-
Starting point is 00:58:11 Zach Baggins? Of Ghost Hunters. Son of Bilbo? Yeah, he's the millennial Bilbo Baggins. Zach Baggins. Zach Baggins here. Yo, dude, it's dire up in the shire. He's like a Criss Angel type ghost hunter.
Starting point is 00:58:24 It's really- Oh, like fucking dark emo vibes and shit like a Criss Angel type ghost hunter. It's really. Oh, like fucking dark emo vibes and shit wearing a bunch of rings. You'll have to watch it. It's a good. But you watch it for comedy. Yeah. I hate to admit that. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:58:35 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what I'm saying. Like, come on, ghost hunters. Like, fuck. What else? What other technology I'll need? Like, show me these ghosts already. Show me these ghosts.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Ghosts, you have to experience it. Right. Yeah. Have you? Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. Every time, these ghosts. Ghosts, you have to experience it. Right. Yeah. Have you, yeah. No, I'm just kidding. Every time,
Starting point is 00:58:47 like, I feel like people are like, no, there's a, you can feel it in here. I'm like, there's a draft. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Right. That's it. That's the AC. There's also scientific theories that ghosts, like people who have ghost experiences are experiencing some sort of, it's like sub something sound waves
Starting point is 00:59:04 where it's like the opposite of hypersonic subsonic, I guess. And it like gives, when you feel it, you can't hear it, but it like fills you with dread. And sometimes that's called taking a dab. You're like, Oh shit. I feel it in my chest. I feel the dread and it's a ghost. I can't catch my breath. And does my heart supposed to be racing? Also, do I look weird to you guys? Okay ghost. I can't catch my breath. Is my heart supposed to be racing? Also, do I look weird to you guys? AKA every time I ever smoked weed ever. Heart racing?
Starting point is 00:59:29 Heart racing. Somebody call an ambulance. Don't tell my dad. Don't tell my dad. He's going to be so mad. He's going to be mad, dude. He's going to arrest me. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Let's talk about food delivery apps. They are lit. All right. They're lit. That's going to do it. No. apps they are lit all right uh that's gonna do it now um the new york times recently published an article where one of their journalists basically became a you know delivery person for grubhub uber eats caviar doordash and postmates in new york city and you know this is
Starting point is 01:00:02 supposed to be the most dangerous of the gig economy, like app-based jobs. Right, just to be a food delivery person in New York City. And so one of the big problems that he uncovered is payment. The couriers aren't actually employees of the app companies. They're more like basically like freelancers. Right, same shit as like Uber. Yeah, they're contractors. Right, so they have to work for like more than one service at a time.
Starting point is 01:00:27 And a few years ago, the wages were apparently much better. But now they've like done all this aggressive marketing to people to be like, you can get rich doing this. And so now, so Postmates specifically went from it used to average $10 a job in 2016 to now $4 to $5 a job. Oh, my goodness. So it's not a great gig. Oh, because, right, and then also there's so many more drivers and delivery people. Right. It's just too spread out.
Starting point is 01:00:59 You can't concentrate all those jobs into the same people. Yeah. those jobs into the same people yeah and the other kind of creepy thing the this was the detail that bummed me out the most is the apps apparently use video game like language and devices to try and make the couriers think that this is all like fun and lucrative like they're uh the apps roll out ever-changing and often confusing menus of bonuses and incentives borrowed from the video game and slot machine industries so i mean like i read recently something like an article by somebody who was like studying in stanford at a a class that was all about like human manipulation and studying like experimentation on humans and how to manipulate
Starting point is 01:01:46 human behavior and they were like and two of the people in that class invented instagram and like people who had taken that class at stanford went on to invent like all these apps so they're all just like so insidious i hate that yeah oh my goodness um but DoorDash was the kind of big loser in this investigation because they uncovered a thing DoorDash does specifically. So they'll guarantee a minimum to their courier for each trip that they take delivering food. Right. But if the person delivers like a $3 tip, that will go towards that minimum. Just subsidizing to get to that number.
Starting point is 01:02:26 So basically, the courier's guaranteed $6.85. The woman he delivered the food to tips $3. He still gets $6.85. DoorDash just only has to cover $3.85. I don't understand how that is. Like, if it's a tip, it has to be on top of? Well, I think that's where the language they get you in the terms of service where it's like you're guaranteed and tips can be part of that you're
Starting point is 01:02:49 guaranteed like to this amount and then your tips will yeah they probably do have some so then that takes them off the hook and now the the right customer is using it to be like we're subsidizing the pay by tipping right and also i guess the opposite is true sort of of the service industry we're like i know in new york for a long time, the minimum was like $2.84 because they made tips. So it's like we're not really using tips the way that they would be useful. No, no, they're subsidizing pay with tips. And I think, yeah, DoorDash was by far the – they were fucking around. That's why shit, if you're going to use DoorDash, you better just tip cash.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Yeah, well, that's supposed to be – supposedly that's true of nail salons too, that you should tip in cash because often, and it's probably true about every industry. Right. But often like the house will take a major cut if it's not in cash. Goddamn. My nails are a mess. Yeah. Basically, before tips were saving DoorDash money rather than giving money to the delivery person. dash money rather than giving money to the delivery person but because of this article uh they door dash changed their policy uh and presumably found some other way to fuck their
Starting point is 01:03:51 delivery people over see what see what happens when the public learns and then you yeah go to equifax too it really comes down to there's just not enough organizing on behalf of any labor community in the United States. Well, yeah, and especially in this new sort of industry that people are working in, like, my God, like, they're unable to unionize. Yeah. And they're unable to actually be treated like employees.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah. Yeah, it's also, I think, making, for me, like, class lines a little bit more clear, right? Oh, 100%. Where there are, like, people who, like, $4 a job means you have to run, what, 15 jobs a day? And they probably each all take at least 45 minutes. Just like the monopolizing of money really is time.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, that was one of the points they made that when they tell you how much these jobs average per hour when they're advertising them, they don't take into account any of the time you sit waiting around for like the order.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Or trying to find parking. Yeah, so it's only active orders. I worked for WAG for a long time, the dog walking service, and it was $12 a walk. A walk was a half hour, but they would send you all over the city. So you would like lose money on gas.
Starting point is 01:05:03 You would lose time driving around. You'd have to find parking. If you got a parking ticket, that that was your responsibility so it's just like at the end of the day it really like wasn't because the time you lose and it's it's there's something to be said about like the lack of regular part-time jobs like at a grocery store or whatever yeah and this new wave of part-time jobs that are looser and like work when it's convenient for you exactly Exactly. But because of that, they take so much from you because they proposition it as this really good deal with flexible hours when it's, in fact, only flexible for the employer.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, this is... And again, this is all... And these sort of jobs become more attractive and appealing most...
Starting point is 01:05:43 Because wages are stagnating everywhere else so it's like well shit i can't if i can't work here make money then maybe i can make a little bit more pay doing this i mean all this basically comes down to people just do not earn enough for the work they do no matter what they do to have to do a supplemental income like i don't know anybody who doesn't have a second gig right so it's it's and to be fair most of my friends are freelancers, but it's really interesting to see that, like, there's no such thing as a secure job, really, in this landscape.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Like, especially with benefits and, like, a retirement. Like, imagine getting a pension. Oh, boy. Like a real, like one of those city pensions. My friend, her father's a firefighter. Yo, his, the most lit fucking pension. I'm like, damn, we'll never know what that's like. Like our generation.
Starting point is 01:06:29 We'll be lucky to get social security. Yeah. Yeah. For real. It's the same pay that he had when he was a firefighter. Damn. That's like, yo, you could just don't don't come in, bro. The checks will still keep coming.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And also shout out to the people, the first responders. In Belgium and the Netherlands and in France, drivers and delivery people have staged protests or strikes and been able to get the companies to address conditions like this. But in America, we need the New York Times to have one of their journalists go undercover. Organize, organize, organize. But the thing is, but even then, right? Think about who the people, the echelon, the social class of people who are going to read the article. They're not the ones affected. They're going to be like, uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Right. Okay. Versus like, I think, I don't know if it's going to really create the kind of public outrage that we need. This is me being really hopeful, but I do think that the echelon of people who read the New York Times might be people who order those apps. Sure.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like use them and hopefully now they will be tipping in cash. Do you know what I mean? But I think it's like most important that we as like a culture really encourage laborers to organize and to speak up for their needs and to not be afraid to like. Rock the fucking boat. Exactly. Exactly. We really need to talk about like labor organizations and unions and stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Because they were very popular in this country. They were. And then did the. And we had a good job dismantling them now we don't right and then but and then who and then conservatives did a really good job of being like oh you know why that happened right not because of us and our predatory capitalism it's because all these other people came into the country and like that was a drain on society don't look at us we're not the reason we're not the destroyers. But, you know, I think, yeah, it is very important. I think that's the problem in this country.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Like, so many people are just so subdued by having their, like, basic needs-ish met where it's like, well, I can go home and just fucking veg out that it's much harder
Starting point is 01:08:19 to, like, look at, like, yo, do I need to fucking put some boots on the fucking ground? Yeah. But I mean, it's not their fault necessarily. It's also it's just the way that things are structured.
Starting point is 01:08:28 It gives the huge companies more rights. I don't know that there are so many people in this country whose basic needs are getting met. Right. Like I think that the people we're talking about who would benefit most from labor organizations are people who are just completely arrested by trying to survive, like just health care, food, housing, stuff like rising rates or like being underwater on your mortgage. I think that takes up so much of your space and your emotional life that to then be able to think about like, well, could I organize at work? Yeah. I mean, not even to not even as a criticism of those people, but I think there are people who whose needs are met and that helps them be even more disengaged from the process when that sort of apathy
Starting point is 01:09:10 takes them out of the game of aligning themselves with these other movements that need support. It cannibalizes the possibility of change. Yeah. Yeah. And another thing the article talks about is that these people are being put in incredible danger, like riding their bike around New York City. Some of them are being put in incredible danger, like riding their bike around New York City. Some of them are getting hit in Mexico.
Starting point is 01:09:29 In the past six months, five Mexican Uber Eats couriers have died in crashes. There's a bunch of American injuries that happen on the job, and there's no health insurance to cover it. And the ones that do offer health insurance, they followed people trying to get their claim met and just nothing, nothing happened. So, um, the journalist followed the journalist.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I think like Uber eats things like make sure that person's injured. Right. Which also would make sense. Like sending like, I don't think they broke their arms in delivering McDonald's. Real quick, any updates from Woodstock 50? We're always keeping our eye on Woodstock 50. I've got my tickets.
Starting point is 01:10:12 I'm ready. My plane tickets to upstate New York. Great. Great. Up to Watkins Glen. Keep an eye out, like aye aye, Captain. Because, oh wait, it's a shit show. Wait, what happened? been okay we've been saying
Starting point is 01:10:27 since the beginning when they announced we're like this shit ain't gonna work right like every woodstock has been a disaster this is no exception a they couldn't even do it in the original spot that it took place like you know 50 years ago right they had to move it to another location and then now we're getting word they didn't have the fucking requisite funds or permits to even stage the concert there. So they're going all the way from historic Woodstock, New York to Columbia, Maryland. To Maryland. Yep. To the Merriweather Post Pavilion.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Shout out to Animal Collective. Yeah. I didn't realize that was named after a location. I found out much later when someone I met from Maryland, I was like, yeah, that's like this venue. Oh, cool, like the Silver Sun Pickups. Yeah, about the liquor store. Silver Sun Liquor, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah, dude. Legendary. Fucking ledge. Fucking ledge, dude. But yeah, so they've moved it from there. And one thing to note is a lot of the artist contracts aren't really enforceable because the language in the contract said that it was
Starting point is 01:11:30 happening in watkins glen so would the venue change well now jay-z is out john fogarty is out uh i'm sure maybe like you have people like miley cyrus and halsey and stuff like that they haven't announced what they'll do yet but i'd have a feeling you'd be like, do I want to go from this like historic thing to now just a show like at the Merriweather Post Pavilion for like 32,000 people? I don't know. Depends if they're really down for the movement or not. What movement is that? The Woodstock movement.
Starting point is 01:12:00 The burning shit fire. The movement to reimburse these capitalists who invested a bunch of money early on in this. Yeah, but also the chances of people organizing the Woodstock Festival being burnouts is huge. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Just like people have committed their whole life to it. It was all conceived one night after a pile of cocaine.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Well, but I think the burnouts actually have a festival near the original festival. There's a small one, yeah. Yeah, that's like small and is like folk musicians. Oh, funky. Yeah, it's basically going to be like a local community theater version of Woodstock.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Yeah, but that's on the actual historical grounds. That's happening in the historical grounds. These are, the people who organized this one are actually more like the people who organized the original one, which is like Madison Avenue, like ad executives. And it was like a lot of like shady motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Uh, the first time and still is and Bobby McFarland, of course. I, this, I mean, yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 01:12:57 but hopefully, you know, if you bought your tickets, I guess you can just take the quick car ride down to Maryland. Ellery. It's been a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you? You can find me at Ellery Smith on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Great follow on Twitter. Thank you so much. Sick. Twitter. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yeah, there's one from Chris Fleming this week. It says, Danny Zuko experienced a complete break with reality upon seeing Hot Sandy at the fair.
Starting point is 01:13:25 His expressions of his primal urges are so extreme they almost read as grief. That's so true. It's so funny. Oh, man. He has a lot of really strong reactions. Chris is also good. When he's biting his fist. You're so horny, you're biting your fist?
Starting point is 01:13:45 That's so weird. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. A tweet I like comes from Hannah Lynn at hanfranny, H-A-N-F-R-A-N-N-Y. In Pittsburgh news, Kato Kaelin is competing in a pickle juice drinking contest at a wizarding convention today. And that's the truth. Is it really happening? Hannah is a friend of mine, and she writes about Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:14:15 She's in Pittsburgh writing up the news, so I'm pretty sure this is the kind of tweet that would be true. Pittsburgh's a great town. And if you're at this wizarding convention where OJ is a homeboy who just needed an air mattress to get back on his feet. Yeah. His Twitter is wild. Kato's? Oh, or OJ. No, OJ.
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Starting point is 01:14:47 and Danny DeVita. And Soren Bui, speaking of Hall & Oates, tweeted, there's a part in You Make My Dreams where Daryl Hall says, listen to this, like he's going to drop some serious wisdom, and then he just goes, ow! He said, I think I'd like to try that more often. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
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