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I said yo
This ocean's on fire
Shout out to Rob Cunningham
At Math Demigod
For that one
That was some shit to see
When I pulled up God's Reddit
And then you see this shit in
The Gulf of Mexico
I thought Godzilla's
Fucking arch nemesis was about to
Surface
It's not great
But yeah we're we
all can empathize with cleveland and pittsburgh and other towns who have lit their local bodies
of water on fire now collectively we have lit the ocean on fire i'm sure our guests will have
something to say about whether that's his country's fault as much as it's theirs but
uh the ocean is shared.
So I'm going to go ahead and blame all of humanity.
Thank God they got it out.
Yeah.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest stand-ups doing it.
A fan favorite.
An us favorite.
All the way from New Zealand.
The hilarious and talented Guy Montgomery!
Fellas, please.
You embarrass me before I even get to open my mouth.
Good morning, Jack.
Good morning, Miles.
Hi, good morning, good morning.
Good morning, Guy.
Is this a bad time to say that I've recently taken a lucrative sponsorship from Black Rifle Coffee?
No, I mean, that's kind of of perfect part of their sponsorship was we had
to have you on so i see yeah wow what a confusing relationship we all have with one another
it's it's great to be here and yeah yeah obviously we we did we didn't notice it on our
seabed but we have heard reports that the ocean's on fire. Right. And on the one hand, this is a devastating environmental disaster.
But on the other hand, it's pretty impressive. Pretty cool, right?
Not an easy thing to get on fire.
I don't know if you guys have tried to do that out in the backyard. Oh, yeah. Constantly
when I was a kid. Yeah, man. Just spraying the surface with
lubricants and w40 or
whatever and takes an incredible amount of you know reckless dedication to truly get that baby
blitzing we did it i mean that's one of the great things about capitalism they're like
oh let me i bet you didn't have ocean on fire on your fucking bingo card
we did do it.
Guy, what's new with you?
You are in winter where you are.
Is that correct?
I'm in winter.
Hence the heat.
That's right.
So it's sort of opposite's world here.
So it's cold and it gets dark early.
Those are two of the main features I'm noticing.
What else is new with me?
How cold does New Zealand get?
Not as cold as America.
Yeah.
What are we talking?
We had a polar blast recently in Auckland, which has got a subtropical, our version of subtropical climates.
The largest, most northern city.
Down to two overnight, two degrees Celsius.
I can't do the translation
of fahrenheit i also can't fathom your insistence on sticking with fahrenheit we've got such a good
system running down here yeah we're zeros frozen yeah yeah and 100 the numbers really correspond
to what's happening yeah two is like 36 degrees just you know i just know it's close to our freezing 34 two is two or 32 uh but yeah
and then but further south it got cold we had a polar blast where the one of the coldest stretches
of june on record in new zealand um very recently but you'll be pleased to hear that that did not
manage to put in a dent in us also having the warmest June on record.
Hey.
Yeah.
I was listening to our national broadcast yesterday, and they seemed to think that was due to warmer air cycles and also the entire planet constantly heating up.
Again, you're welcome.
We are.
We're doing it.
We're really doing it.
You know.
We're all doing our bit.
We're doing our.
We're doing our.
I've got three windows open and two heaters cranking, baby.
Yeah.
I mean, people should have known better when we refused to go with Celsius and the metric system.
Yeah.
It wasn't going to go well for the globe in general.
Yeah.
That was the precursor to people not wanting vaccines yeah and lighting
the ocean on fire we didn't see the red flags is what you're saying yeah exactly you should
have known you should have known this group of idiots was gonna fuck something up yeah
the fuck are they talking 32 what
they make they make good tv we'll stick with them for a while.
Hey, the Simpsons, you know.
All right, Guy, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
Hey, speaking of the ocean being on fire, ExxonMobil lobbyists basically dimed out their Senate friends.
There was an undercover investigation
from Greenpeace UK, and we just got to hear them speak unguardedly about how things actually work
when they're not on the record. We are going to talk about where we're at with vaccination.
We basically missed the goal for vaccinations by just about Republicans.
Yeah.
So just by that chunk of people.
We'll talk about Netflix.
Are they waning?
All right.
What is the future of Netflix?
And we'll also talk about the present tense of Netflix, which too hot to handle is trending in the top five.
It's back, baby.
All of that, plenty more. But first, Guy, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? You love to ask that question.
I do love it. And frankly, I love to answer it. The most recent search in my search history is
The most recent search in my search history was Float Tank near me, Auckland, which has turned out to be, I'll say their name, a place called Float Culture in Eden Terrace.
Look, they're not paying for this mention, Guy.
Well, they better.
Well, yeah. We'll reach out to their people after this.
They're chasing that lucrative greenback during these pandemic times.
lucrative greenback during these pandemic times uh and so not long after this record wraps up i'm gonna go and lie down in a salty enclosed body of water for an hour and see if that is relaxing
what do you guys think i mean i've i've heard about it i really want to try it because as a kid
i remember being in the bathtub and I would kind of do the version where
I just kind of put my, just my ears underneath the surface and just always be like, this is so weird
and try and like, I don't know. I didn't know about meditating then, but I guess I was doing
some form of it with that. So when I hear about float tanks and how, you know, the buoyancy
essentially makes it feel, you completely sort completely begin to separate your physical and mental and have that sensation.
I've been really interested in going, but I have not done yet.
Wow, man.
That is exactly my shit.
I'm going to go and I'm going to find out.
What do you hope to find out?
I'm really excited yeah because there's also like the the most probably the most
relaxed and best i feel in my life is you're lying down and you're about to fall asleep and it's sort
of it's not quite lucid dreaming but it's that moment between consciousness and unconsciousness
and you're like man my brain is taking me wherever it wants right now yeah i think it's i have the
same thing because like i love floating and just in, you find me in a body of water. I like to float in the ocean where it's calm enough. I like to just get on my back and just feel, you know, whatever that sensation is. But I think it's really interesting for what they say is just like sort of this introspective opportunity that it offers people when you're kind of in this situation or in that
environment yeah so i tried it once and i have to just a little piece of advice is don't go face
down when you're floating that's with a snorkel or not at all not at all and i only lasted a couple
seconds you gotta you gotta stop doing that no i i've heard it's trippy I'm trying to figure out if that's like the one
episode of Joe Rogan that I listened to and I always talk that I listen to on repeat on repeat
every day just to get ready you know I couldn't risk muddying the waters with any of the other
ones but they were talking about that
and it made it very intriguing.
And then there's the Simpsons episode
where he like basically,
it's like tripping, right?
Like is what the most extreme version
of it that I've heard.
I like anything.
I'm into anything that can like
put you in touch with sort of
the vast realms of your unconscious mind.
So this is me saying
i'm going to do that too i'm gonna i i don't know why i haven't to this point i've always been very
interested in it and it sounds great i'm gonna do it too and i'm gonna do it on my back all right
if i can last a couple minutes i can't wait to see the huge spike in traffic that float culture
eden terrace is having right now.
Oh, yeah.
And you can say you're welcome.
When you arrive today, even though the episode may not be out, you can just say you're welcome.
And I will.
And they'll say, man, this guy's got a bad attitude.
He needs to float immediately.
They do, like, clean the water, right, in between floats.
Like, you're not laying on somebody else's. There's a little drain.
And I understand you've got to wash yourself for 15 minutes before and after.
That's good.
Yeah.
Which is, yeah.
You're not, like, laying in someone else's soup.
Yeah.
Or you get a wicked ear infection in there.
Yeah.
I don't know that it's going to be a brand new soup.
Right.
Yeah.
I think it's a shared soup.
I think it's like you're at the restaurant and you trust the other diners.
If you were running a tank business, how many floats do you do before you switch out the soup?
Two?
Well, if it's my tank business, it's like running a fry.
You don't want to change that oil.
That's where the flavor is.
Oh, yeah.
All the revelations.
It's a cast iron skillet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All the revelations are from keeping the same water over and over.
Mix everyone else's hallucinations up with your own.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're like, Jacinda was just in there.
You want to switch it out?
I don't think so.
Hell no.
It should be an honor to be in there.
She was in there.
Jemaine Clement was in there, I think, one time.
Keep going.
How many famous New Zealanders you got?
That great cricketer.
You know the one.
You know the one we're talking about.
Guy Montgomery.
Many great cricketers.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm honored that I've made your New Zealand celebrity list.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
That's every person I ask that's from New Zealand.
I say, you know Guy Montgomery, right?
That's the homie right there.
But that is such a...
The airlines, we found out, don't clean anything in between.
And they're like, take the garbage with you.
And that's why we all got sick on airlines for so many years.
Is Keith urban New Zealand or Australia?
You know, damn, that's a good question.
I think he's Australian.
Is he married to Nicole Kidman?
Yeah.
I think he's Australian.
Okay.
There are a few that are contentious that we sort of...
He seems to be on this list with like Russell Crowe too.
Yeah, Russell Crowe is contentious.
Both countries claimed him and then both countries were like,
ah, you have him.
But I think he's Australian.
Okay.
Well, he wasn't in the soup, so don't worry.
Crowded House is New Zealand, but Australia claims him as their own.
Gotcha, gotcha.
What is, guys, something that you think is overrated?
I think any sport that lasts less than five days is vastly overrated.
Hey, speaking of cricketers, right?
I am.
I am referring to cricket.
You might see that I'm taking you on a journey towards what is underrated. But I think any sport that doesn't break for lunch
and afternoon tea and then has everyone literally sleep
on the event that's currently happening,
then wake up the next morning and go back to work
on the same thing, it doesn't spin a narrative
that spans multiple days and nights.
Right.
That's fast food to me.
That's junk food.
Why don't you sit down And have a lovely digustation
Yeah we're just doing our quick hits
Of testosterone fueled
Sports out here in the US
Just a good quick 48
And we're out of here
Exactly I mean like baseball
That's a long sport by American standards
Right?
Yeah very much so Somehow you've made a long sport by American standards, right? Yeah.
Very much so.
Somehow you've made a long sport short and boring.
Unbelievable to me.
Wait.
When they break for lunch and tea, is there like an athlete?
What do they get to eat?
What do the players get to eat? Yeah. Do they do it in the middle of the of the game no no no no okay like they they go i know
that's broken up over five days but i'm like hold on now tea break real quick we're not animals
they um they go off the field there's like there's dining there's dining there's facilities and they
get there's food prepared and served for them and i guess depending on where you
are in the game some you know some players would eat heartily and others would would stay lean and
light um okay but i because what happens is is lunch lasts 40 minutes and uh you sort of if
you're watching the game you'll often sit and watch the you'll you could break for lunch too
you know how often do you know that you're eating in perfect synchronicity with the athletes you are right very rarely you can guess but it's tricky athletes
keep unusual eating schedules but um i've always thought it'd be cool if there was a player cam
and so each member of the squad has to wear a gopro through lunch you just get to watch the
players eating serving themselves you don't have to have the audio on it'd just be nice to have this
immersive kind of experience yeah and just hear like the cutlery against like the plates and
things yeah groans and burp yeah i get it that'd be nice yeah we're the we're the uh opposite of
that in america like american football delivers a total of only 18 minutes of a football action like in between like that's how much that's
how long people are playing for uh but we need it in quick bursts just like you know delivered to us
in concentrated form and then we need a break to watch your commercials yeah exactly i i have sort
of underhandedly poo-pooed these shorter sports, but I've got to say, I do appreciate American football and other American sports.
Well, I just like, I do struggle without advertisers. I don't know what products to buy. And so I do find myself with a very well stocked fridge after a game of American football.
It's like, well, I love the 18 minutes of of actual sport i see i love the 112 minutes of commercials that really make the sport what do
you were you a broncos fan again i am a denver broncos yeah okay i remember this all starting
to come together again yeah yeah and i'm assuming if your purchases are based on football commercials
that your fridge is stocked with 150 different varieties of hard seltzer
absolutely and you better you better believe i'm in shored up the wazoo
that's right look look at the poster you got in the background you got the whole dilly dilly
frame joint back there yeah what is something you think is underrated, Guy? Test cricket. The only form of sport.
I would like to take this opportunity to champion our men's national team,
the Black Caps, who recently won the inaugural World Test Championship.
It's one of sport's great underdogs.
Test cricket traditionally takes five days.
It's the reason that people don't like cricket and misunderstand it
because it takes five days it's this incredible sort of titanic mental as well as physical battle it's called
test because it's you know it's mentally testing and uh for the first ever world test championship
final they left a sixth day in lieu for for rain for rain delay but traditionally a test match can
last five days and the outcome can be a draw and it's it's not exactly what you want but everyone involved can still be satisfied by
that outcome in this instance we won against the odds against the most powerful and wealthy
cricketing nation in the world india and it was i stayed up it was on in england so i stayed up
every night started at 9 30 and play would 9 30 pm. and play would last until 6 a.m.
So I shifted my body clock.
I went nocturnal, and it was one of the greatest weeks of my life.
I give a huge shout-out to Test Cricket and the Black Caps.
Won by eight wickets, huh?
We won by eight wickets.
It was like, honestly, it was one of the most sort of religious experiences
I've had watching sport.
I can't even articulate the
feeling it gave me it was like oh man did you grow up playing cricket or was it yeah yeah everyone
plays too on top of watching or because some to me like the perception obviously from my ignorant
ass is like well i don't have enough white clothes to play cricket yeah yeah they do love to put you
in white clothes it's sort of like it's the summer sport i suppose so it's yeah not unlike baseball
would be in america and you could organically be like yo you know who can bowl the fuck out of that
thing is my friend guy like is is it the same way or do you have to really focus on becoming a
cricketer like uh can you organically kind of like yo did you have you seen this kid around the corner type stuff or is it a little more you know it's there are people
who are pretty naturally talented at it and then they get sort of hoovered up into the development
systems and they can become great usually nizil is small enough that usually you'll be one degree
of separation from someone who's in the national team gotcha but yeah it's like it's just i just like a rookie
of the year type disney film where like this this child with a broken arm sudden suddenly becomes
like the greatest bowler and test cricket and you're just like now everyone's like i love i
now i love this sport the very thinly drawn sort of hallmark sports movie you've described is it's
it's a pretty handy metaphor for the Black Caps'
meteoric rise to being world champions.
Five years ago, we were the worst team in the world,
and no one wanted to play us.
Oh, wow.
Because we were bad.
But then we were like,
do you know what would be better?
Is if we were good.
And so everyone concentrated on becoming good
and it worked i love the a to b logic of the kiwis you know it's it's it's something to just
stand in awe of because out here we're like put on your bootstraps and smack the shit out of it
we're like why are we losing yeah well i sort of i i did create quite a succinct narrative there
because i'm aware we've been talking about variations of cricket for nigh on five or so, possibly 10 minutes and probably alienating a huge number of listeners and potential sponsors like the good folks at Black Rifle Coffee.
So we've got to keep this show on the road.
Can't think of less of an overlap between two brands
than Test Cricket and Black Rifle Coffee.
Can I just ask before we move on from cricket,
which I promise, Zeitgang, we will,
what is the viewing experience?
Are you sitting down that whole time?
Are you running errands in between?
How long is each viewing sesh it so it starts the first session lasts for two hours i can't remember
the exact hourly breakdown the second session would last for two hours again maybe and the last
one it's probably two two two and um each day each day yeah so wait there's two hours per day six hours per day six hours per right okay
you've got your morning session then you've got lunch and you've got your sort of post lunch
session then you've got tea and you've got your evening session right and there's allowance for
light and whatnot but you can so it's sort of like just also a great conversational backdrop
it's like i i tried to get when i was living in America, I tried to get into baseball because I like going to the game.
And it's just, you know,
it's sort of...
Yeah, talking and stuff.
...active in action next year
and you've got all these
huge conversational breaks.
It's like going for...
It's a sporting equivalent
of going for a walk
where, you know,
it's a changing environment around you.
There's something you can always
defer to conversationally.
Yeah.
And I just also...
It's so slow. Like it's so it's almost
deliberately boringly inaccessible and i love that i love that people hate it with such a passion and
it winds them up i find it very funny yeah american sports fans are like baseball's too slow speed it
up like get it yeah yeah less time in the batter's box. Hurry, hurry, hurry. And yeah, I like the opposite.
It's the sporting equivalent of slow TV.
Absolutely.
All right, let's take a quick break
and we'll come back and talk cricket.
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Yeah.
They're talking to the folks over at the God Pod.
Cool name.
Yeah, right. folks over at the god pod cool name yeah right i can't imagine for especially for the one of the
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So on the Democrat side, we look for the moderates on these issues.
So it's the Manchins, it's the Sinemas, it's the testers.
Exxon is even trying to get through to President Biden through his friend, Senator Chris Coons.
This guy goes on to say that Chris Coons is like all, you know, they talk to him constantly.
And because he's from Delaware, where Biden is from, that they're really exploiting this connection to, you know, get them to hear their side of this debate, which is please don't
make us pay more taxes or pay for a carbon tax while you go and pay for these new technologies
that are infinitely renewable and have no carbon emissions. Yeah. Those are the moderates, just to
be clear. That's what that's what he said. We look for the moderates who are open to being in the
pocket of ExxonMobil when it comes to climate change.
That's what, you know, moderation is considered in the Democratic Party and in American politics.
And it's not about the filibuster or any of this other shit.
Like they know, you know, again, the calculus for a lot of people in the Senate is merely just stay in office.
It's not to deliver results for people.
It's just, no, I want to get here and i want
to feel like i can never be knocked off this perch so if i have to do deals with the earth
fuckers you know that are out there with their deep pockets then i will do business with this
that's the same sort of um power grabbing short-term logic that governs all of this right
i mean what is the end game for exxon mobile there is a finite amount of
the resource that they peddle in the world right it's like you just got to have a vice grip
on power and distribution and like you know protecting how much it costs to to find and use
until we run out and then they go i i don't know we're gonna run out hell if i knew we were gonna
run out i wouldn't have got into this in the first place.
I would have pivoted to this other thing that apparently could be a much better path forward.
But yeah, even when listening to this, it's just it's you know, it's one thing to always see this sort of gridlock happen in the Senate and just with our very fucked up form of governance. But then when you really see on the other side,
the people who are the ones exerting the pressure
speak so plainly like that,
it's never about this other stuff.
It's like, no, infrastructure is supposed to be like roads and stuff.
Don't come into our lane with this emissions reduction
or carbon tax stuff.
We don't want to hear it.
And then this piece goes on later on to say
where they admit how Exxon will be for a carbon tax but they
only do that because they know the road there is so hard that if they can just stay fixed there
then they can excuse all this other stuff was like well we're for a carbon tax if you just pass
something you know like that's what we'll do but also behind the scenes we're gumming up the gear
so you guys won't even get close but you can again, when you hear both of these lobbyists speak,
it's clear to them that the pace at which people are asking for new forms of energy and to address
climate change, they see themselves as having like a four-year window to do as much damage as
possible before the legislation kind of consumes their business probably. But who knows? They seem to be very well-funded.
They've got great service stations, friendly attendance.
It's a hell of a product.
As you've always said.
Yeah.
I mean, they were the first to know about climate change.
They knew about climate change in the early 80s before we knew about climate change.
And that didn't change anything.
So, I mean.
Except the dang climate right
get him out of here yeah get this guy out of here this guy yeah if there's any
hope for people that like those uh exxon mobil is investing in a greener future. Campaigns have some actual truth behind them.
We can give up on that.
This is what they're invested in, which is making as much money next quarter is essentially what it is.
All those initiatives have always been thinly veiled PR exercises, right?
With absolutely no substance.
British Petroleum rebranded to Beyond Petroleum and invented the idea of a carbon footprint.
Yeah.
Right.
Which is pretty much just like,
God, this is too big for us.
If we can just force everyone into thinking
they can shoulder a tiny bit of responsibility
for their carbon emissions,
we can keep just absolutely pillaging everything.
Right.
In the interim.
Yep.
It's on you, listener.
You got to drink with paper straws and.
That's right.
Remember your bags when you go to the grocery store.
Yeah.
Don't don't fuck this up.
Together, we can fix this.
Don't fuck this up for Rex Tillerson, who went from the CEO of Exxon to the secretary of state.
That's truly amazing. Look at at the fucking for lack of a better
word pipeline and you can see just how all this shit moves like it's all you know again for people
who aren't cynical or radical enough yet just don't take a second to look at how they do how
they move it's the same thing as you know how celebrities always date celebrities right they're
the only ones who know what it's
like yeah right right right yeah exactly like i can i can only lay my head down with another
evil earth fucker who has the dread of their you know collective karma for the deeds they've done
in the pursuit of profits hanging over their head but we loved a vacation in bali yeah right
yeah they've already made their decision a long time ago.
And that's how that's how you know that they're they're good.
They're good for the job.
All right.
Well, let's talk a little bit more about, you know, where the short sightedness of the
U.S. has gotten us.
So Republican governors are now basically begging their constituents't get vaccinated.
And that 86% of Democrats have received at least one vaccine shot compared with 45% of Republicans.
So it breaks down pretty evenly along ideological lines there.
Yeah, they're dealing with something spookier now because of the Delta variant.
They're dealing with something spookier now because of the Delta variant.
And now that it's becoming, you know, slowly the dominant strain Hutchinson, Arkansas was like, the vaccine is the only solution to this
was like saying very directly on TV to people who would listen because, you know, they're looking at
sub 50% vaccination rates. You got Jim Justice, who's the governor of West Virginia saying,
when it really boils right down to it, they're in a lottery to themselves.
We have a lottery that says if you're vaccinated, we're going to give you stuff.
Well, you've got another lottery for them.
And it's a death lottery.
Hell, yeah.
I like that energy.
Who's that guy?
This is the governor of West Virginia.
Well, you've got another lottery for them. Well, you got another lottery
for them and it's a death lottery.
I mean, it's so
appropriate that it's somebody named Jim
Justice because it sounds like
that is
a Steven Seagal character name
and that the way he
spoke about that
sounds like it could be from a trailer
for a Steven Seagal movie. Yeah, they're playing a lottery. A death lottery. from a trailer for a steven seagal yeah it's like
yeah they're playing a lottery a death lottery and that's the name of the seagal movie death
yeah death lottery it's a good soundbite steven seagal in death lottery or is the death lottery
it depends do you think jim justice seems like the kind of guy just based on that one like he'd be
the last kind of like t-ball coach you'd want you'd want consoling your kid if they get hit with a ball.
Anything like that.
He's like, yeah, you should have kept your eyes open.
Yeah.
It's tough love in the moment.
But you look back on that and you think, wow, that T-ball coach really changed my whole life.
He got me to respect vaccines it's funny to just see him like
finally getting it a year and a half into the global pandemic that like these people's lives
are at risk it's so it's so crazy how low the bar has been set for any sort of appraisal or
just basic improvement on governance where it's like a year and a half
into what was a pandemic
that was telegraphed as much as possible.
A year and a half and it's like,
oh, wow, you better get vaccinated
because this is bad.
Everyone's like, oh, that Jim Justice,
man, I knew he'd pull through.
He's still responsible for like,
you know, I don't know the particulars,
but it's just absurd. Like the bar that was set for basic competence on handling this was so low it
was just basically you know an understanding you had to do a difficult thing in the moment to prevent
an absolute disaster unschooling and virtually no one could rise to the challenge no because it required doing things
that an american had never thought of which is to take care of another american person
and because that concept is so foreign it just turned into this car wreck of like no empathy
no empathy car wreck yeah and then i was like what the heck's going on and you're like well you didn't
even handle this thing empathetically yeah i remember when the whole the mask thing like
just this very basic logical piece of advice became a sort of referenda on civil liberties
and freedom and i was like oh man you guys are gonna miss the point this badly you're gonna
america the shit out of this yeah
i'm gonna fuck the assignment up again but yeah this is and it's wild to kind of see this continue
because you know you know that these governors just like exxon mobil is the analysts are showing
them things that say it can get real fucking dark if people aren't vaccinated because the delta
variant is now becoming the more
dominant strain around the world but in america you're seeing it creep up and it's just gonna
tear through unvaccinated communities because it is so transmissible while at the same time
there's all this evidence that's showing like you know anecdotally i saw that there was some
party like in australia that was like a super spreader event. But like people who are vaccinated were the ones who walked out without getting infected.
And, you know, in the UK, this is another place that has a lot of vaccinations.
Sixty seven percent of the people there vaccinated.
New infections were kind of low at around nineteen hundred at the nineteen hundred a day in the end of May.
Then the Delta variant showed up.
Now they're around seventeen thousand six hundred new cases a day and the end of May. Then the Delta variant showed up. Now they're around 17,600 new cases
a day and they're rising. Luckily though, because of the vaccinations, the instances of
hospitalization and death are much lower. But still, this means if you aren't, you're not looking,
you know, Russia, for example, is not doing well. They're lower in the UK, but they're still rising.
Russia, for example, is not doing well.
They're lower in the UK, but they're still rising.
Boris Johnson gave a press conference, I think, maybe yesterday or two days ago, where he was like, man, that guy's such a fucking slice of spam.
Massive piece of shit.
Was just saying, you know, we just have to accept we're going to be looking at 50,000 cases a day and people are going to die he just was pretty plainly like we just have to accept that
people are going to die because he has spent so long saying we're going to open on july 19th
yeah now in the face of a fourth wave he's just he's just so spineless he's like we're still
going to open on july 19th while literally the entire country is just the delta variant is
running riot his definition of herd immunity is people are going
to die right treat people like herd animals that's where the weak ones in the herd are gonna
you know they'll perish and then the strong ones we mean poor we we talked last week about this
op-ed from somebody who was talking about how aids has continued to be a crisis in the world. It's just that it's
more of a crisis that affects poor people. And therefore, the narrative in government and in
the mainstream media has become that we have it under control, that we have this medication,
parentheses, extremely expensive medication that can control it. Now, I feel like we're seeing the same thing happen here with COVID as that op-ed pointed out.
But like that's just like when you view Boris Johnson through through that lens, it's like, yeah, people are going to die.
Not me, not the people I know and make money with.
It's going to be, you know, yeah, but we are going to make money and just pretend that this isn't happening because
it's mostly happening to the poor people it's people not persons it's not individual people
it's the concept of people yeah yeah a large group and don't make me look at photos because
that'll bum me out yeah but we have to accept it and i can just see like you know in 15 years like bill gates is like spearheading like a
you know covid relief concert for the southern hemisphere you know what i mean and like we're
acting like oh god it's such a terrible thing covid that it's just we haven't eradicated it yet
and you've said this a lot you think you you said gates will be headlining you think you see a
recording career for bill gates coming you think he's going this is where it's all headed fool i told you this the whole reason with the fact you said yes he wants
to keep covet alive so he can then do a benefit concert and launch his you know he's he said he's
doing uh i'm like garage emceeing like he's really into the uk drill sound i don't know we'll see
he's got a new track out windows he's got reams of notes on his acrimonious divorce.
It's going to be absolutely savage.
Yeah.
Yeah, he just steps up.
The beats are slapping.
He's like, man, Melinda was so untrustworthy.
Can y'all believe it?
I can't, honestly.
I don't know if y'all agree with me, but she probably shouldn't deserve happiness the way she lived her life.
I mean, yeah, maybe I had some awkward. I a couple co-workers out or people who work for me and
you know but that's not what melinda did anyway i'm bill gates and kovid y'all thank you have a
good night and then he performs songs with and replaces kim with melinda yeah and he performs
like with a holograph of Epstein performing against.
It's happening.
Hey, you fucking ready, Jeff?
You fucking ready to do it to him?
Fucking fog machine.
It's Jeffrey Epstein.
And everyone's like, boom, that's fucking trash.
And he's like, what?
Oh, bad?
Somebody,
some billionaire just needs to own that shit. I guess McAfee
was one of the people who was doing that, right?
Like, wasn't he
starting his own cult and shit?
But like, somebody just needs to be that
bad. It's like Jeffrey Epstein
was the cartoon evil. They already are that bad.
They just have no no just in the worst
yeah that's right they need to dismiss their pr team they need to live life honestly
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And let's talk about Netflix.
Currently, you know, they've got, well, first of all,
second season of I Think You Should Leave just dropped.
So I'm very excited about that.
But when you look at the top 10 for the most part,
it's a lot of reality shows.
Our new producer, DJ Dramos, was pointing out that Too Hot to Handle
is constantly trending in the top five
because they just dropped season two of that, which is the hot people try not to have sex with
each other reality show where $100,000 is at risk or, you know, they're competing to win $100,000.
And yeah, Miles, you were reading somewhere that it's just like netflix may be
more the safe like cbs version yeah which is funny in this write-up in in wired about netflix
like every paragraph whoever wrote this i'm just gonna big them up by name because they were
clearly i think you should leave now fans because every like opportunity there was to talk
about i mean the only thing to watch on netflix is obviously i think you should leave season two
and then like three paragraphs later it's like and i mean we're not for shows like maybe i think
you should leave season two that's about to drop netflix might not have anything and i just love
when people like are hardcore so kate nibs i see you you tim robinson stan i love the energy but
in this piece was writing you know globally globally Netflix is the dominant streamer.
Like that's just without a shadow of a doubt.
When you look at the Nielsen ratings, like that's reflected.
It's like Netflix is the default top 10.
And then if another streamer has a like big movie or a big show come out,
they will sometimes crack the top 10 for like a week.
And then it goes back to all Netflix.
But the now,
you know,
they're saying with HBO max and Disney plus,
they're finding their kind of rhythm in terms of original of original
releases.
And like many new services coming online because it used to be like,
well,
at least Netflix has a lot of stuff.
Now it's become like,
if you like horror,
if you want anime,
like you're probably not going to go to Netflix, you'll go to like crunchyroll or something like that and then in
the summer you had like a lot of the movies were coming on hbo max mortal combat that mortal combat
film came out the godzilla and versus kong film came out and like those did numbers that apparently
made the army of the dead on netflix just seemed like a mild hit and so all of this together they're
kind of saying like well it seems like it's sort of netflix has definitely lost its place in terms
of like the prestige area and if even if you want to talk about them wanting to be a full-fledged
film studio amazon just went and bought a whole ass film studio in mgm so they're like how are
they going to keep up because it seems like now're real big hits are I think you should leave and maybe
and sexy beasts where the people wearing like prosthetics to look like animals and shit
that dating show.
And they're like, where has the prestige gone?
Yeah, it's interesting.
I mean, and when you look at what like they have all these accidental hits, like that art film in quotes from the guy who directed Into the Void.
But the premise was it's a art film where people are actually having sex.
And then there was the 365 Days, which was just a softcore porn.
Those were like among their top 10 shows so i mean they
acquire a lot of content and then just let the let the people sort it out and supposedly they
make their programming and like what they invest in decisions based on what people tell them they
want so yeah it's this is sort of what happens when your um your commissioning is done by an algorithm
right there are so many studio execs or whatever at netflix but it's like what do they do they take
meetings with people then go into a big room with you know a smart board with math equations
happening and then come back out and say sorry right i don't yeah it's this i because even i
think about it i look at it through the prism of stand-up
comedy there was that window where if you got a stand-up comedy special on netflix it was this
close to sort of like getting on carson or letterman you know eons ago where it was like
there was a certain amount of prestige attached to that but now it's as though it's it's nowhere
near i mean i don't think that they stream the same numbers,
and it's just not, like, they give out those huge deals
to your Chappelle's or your Seinfeld's or whatever,
but for ordinary comedians, it's still fantastic,
but it's just, there's no care or attention paid to it.
It's like, this is one of the cheapest things that we can commission,
and I guess we'll give it a go, and if people watch it,
then we'll know to keep coming back.
Right, and they're kind of, netflix is in a new phase you know they're no longer borrowing money for the first time that was always a thing
where it's like where is all what are they doing but you know i think this is part of their long
term strategy and yeah things like disney plus and hbo max even paramount plus they're siphoning
away people's like watch time like it's funny like i have netflix but again i'm really only watching to probably watch i think you should leave
or sexy beast or the f1 show or something like that it's only like a couple things i feel like
i need netflix before whereas you know ask me seven years ago i was like oh my god man you
know fucking netflix like what the fuck do you do yeah like how do you live and again these
analysts are looking at it as because they're just they're so ubiquitous and now globally they
just have such a lion's share of the eyeballs that it's just going to be more like cbs where
they were like the first to broadcast but now people are just like i don't know like it's it's
around but i'm not i don't fuck with cbs I think it's cool. It just happens to be the biggest thing.
Yeah,
and also,
I mean,
the way that these other
streaming apps are popping up
and qualifying their place,
it's like,
there's only so much money
in people's wallets
where eventually you have,
you know,
you can't just,
you have to choose
and you can't just choose
something because it's got
one show.
You'd go to your friends
and watch it,
but like,
you can't just be like,
I'm going to get Netflix
because they're going to have a new season tim robinson's show in another year or two
years it doesn't make any sense but here i am waiting for tim robinson's show wow waiting no
more i know you gotta came out today as we record this yeah you gotta um meet out your your value
you're getting from that show because that's a
year's worth of netflix subscription distilled into what six episodes i flew through them i mean
when the first season came out i probably just watched the first season three times over
yeah just because like the replay value was like sort of it was infinite for a while and and i had
to do the thing where i didn't want to start memorizing all of the bits like with other things I've watched because then I just find myself performing along with my TV rather than being like an audience because I like it so much.
I'm like, oh, man, if he tagged me and I could do this sketch with him.
It's just like it's a real advertisement for stupidity that show because it is the stupidest show on television and also the best.
And it's not a coincidence.
Well, you can't be that that's the irony of it is like you have to be really smart to be able to pull off
the shit that's that dumb you know yeah it's not just like oh man look at this bozo just
falling over himself it's like no like you gotta you like that's the i think that's why i really
love shit when i watch i go this is so fucking is so fucking stupid, but it's so good.
It's a performance style as well because it's such commitment.
Every character is so entrenched in themselves.
This commitment to everything is so real.
It's just like you can't look away because it's like these beautiful little car crashes
where the drivers, I mean mean literally in one sketch it's
like the driver's saying there wasn't a car crash which is so perfect for our country a car crash
clearly wasn't me even though everyone saw him do it yeah i think there's a reason that that
resonates with people stupid people making embarrassing mistakes and then refusing to admit it.
For some reason that that resonates with the modern world.
I had a kind of related streaming question with regards to.
So it seems like all Pixar movies from now on are just coming out without like they're just going to be Disney plus products.
Like they're just going to be Disney Plus products.
And I feel like there's this new Luca one about a kid who's a sea monster that is apparently a metaphor for LGBTQ being.
Yeah, it's a metaphor for Disney acknowledging that queerness exists in the world.
Right, exactly.
As a monstrosity.
Yes, exactly.
But it's just going to be
dropped on disney plus it seems like and that's what happened with soul they dropped it for free
and i don't know it feels like do you guys feel like it's devaluing like pixar movies like it
just feels like it's less of an event now when pixar like onward came out last year and like
that wasn't really a a big thing i think that came out before the pandemic so it hit theaters but
i don't know i think there's a few things happening i'd imagine it's a response to
the fact that they're not going to pull huge numbers at the cinema and then also there's
some element that it could be a marketing stress it's like uber gave out
really cheap cab rides for a while so everyone was like man can't believe all these cab rides
are so cheap and then they're like okay are we the only thing you use is this how you get around now
well guess what cab rides cost 70 now and you go oh what the fuck is this oh yeah and the drivers were subjecting them to hell yeah it just sucks
that their loss leader is like the most artistically valid thing that they were creating
as a studio i feel like yeah and in pixar movies like they're just like yeah we'll just like throw
the slop out to the kitties and by treating it like that because apparently i was listening to like an industry
watcher talk about how even though these movies could make a lot at the box office the
most valuable thing to them is stock price and the only thing that draws drive stock price
is subscriber numbers it's not like if you have a hit at the box office so now they're basically
all they care about is driving like disney plus subscription numbers so they're going to like not
even release some of these things into movie theaters even when movie theaters open back up
it's so grim that the world is being run by old white guys who are just running around following
maths right yeah exactly yeah all in the name of fucking shareholder value yes like even
now we have things that's like no no no what are you kidding me you're gonna put a movie in a movie
theater where people are gonna go and you'll make millions possibly billions of dollars
nah nah nah fam we need the we need the subscriber numbers to go up so these fucking day traders and
everybody else who are in on our stock then they can feel good that's what
we're in the business for we're no longer disney teach a man this other thing to watch a movie
and he will watch a movie once in a day
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Yeah. Thanks for having me.
I was going to say sorry about everything that's happening over there,
but, I mean, you guys seem to be in good spirits yeah we're doing great it's just uh it's fun
you guys you guys having uh yankees over there yet
i i think to be honest i just heard the news here recently
only extremely wealthy ones we keep giving out these special visas for people who have a certain net worth.
Oh, really?
It looks like that.
Only if you're building a compound.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
All right.
That's something to work towards.
Note taken.
That's right.
And speaking of streaming content for this week's On the Streaming Corner,
we're going to be watching a peacock show.
A show on peacock.
So I'm going to have to get that streaming service.
The show is called We Are Lady Parts, and it sounds incredible.
So that's what we're going to be watching.
We'll sell it to you a little better in coming days.
But it's about an all-girl muslim punk band
and it's just supposed to be 100 on rotten tomatoes 100 what are we doing that's all
that's all enough say less enough is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been
enjoying uh yes there's a tweet i came across last night which had me in absolute stitches i just gotta
pull it up it was um why the fuck is it called a restroom i'm fighting for my life in here
miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying oh man uh
mile at miles of gray on twitter and instagram also the other show 420 day fiance if you like weed
and 90 day fiance come check out 420 day fiance we're having an absolute larf over there in terms
of a tweet i like taylor garen at taylor gare g-a-r-r-o-n she tweets the opening line in the
weezer song buddy holly was my first experience with, which is what's with these homies?
This is my girl.
Why do they got up front?
Oh, my God.
Why is that the opening line of that song?
Never really think about that one.
Oh, no.
You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien something
must be in the zeitgeist about painful shits because at rodent sheriff tweeted i'm on that
shit that killed elvis parentheses the toilet oh and also uh at 89 technical pointed out so i'm on
an episode of secretly incredibly fascinatingibly Fascinating with the brilliant
Alex Schmidt and the brilliant Jason Pargin about sewers today. And we talk a lot about like how
lucky we are to have modern sewage systems and how bad it is when you don't have sewage systems.
At 89 Technical pointed out that the Spanish description of Tenochtitlan in the 1500s when they got there was the city was
incredibly clean and the canals they had canals where all the waste was deposited to uh fertilize
the floating gardens so yeah that that's one thing that we should probably not overlook is
that this is good for us,
but other cultures had it,
had it down pat before we killed them all with plague.
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might enjoy miles what song should we link off to today this is going to be from flamingosis
and kahuna style it's called she loved me and it has like again this is like a sample based
sort of dancey jam but it's got this i don't know
again this is a track that i would chalk up to having good summer vibes so if you just play it
if you're driving you have it on passively it will evoke warmer weather and upbeat vibrations
and that's really all you want that's all you want a song duty is sometimes so this is
flamingosis with she loved me all right well the daily zeitgeist is a
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