The Daily Zeitgeist - Face/Off Pt 2, KKK Reboot: The Bundy Version 2.16.21

Episode Date: February 16, 2021

In episode 812, Jack and Miles are joined by performer and activist Behzad Dabu to discuss the charges against the Buffalo cops, the Oath Keepers, Ammon Bundy, Nikki Haley breaking from Trump, the Fac...e/Off remake, Gina Carano, and more!FOOTNOTES: Charges dismissed against Buffalo cops who shoved elderly protester Jessica Watkins, 'Oath Keepers' Leader, Was Waiting For Directions From Trump Ahead of Inauguration Ammon Bundy, veteran of armed standoffs, builds militia network on COVID backlash Nikki Haley breaks with Trump: 'We shouldn't have followed him' That ‘Face/Off’ Remake is Actually a “Direct Sequel,” According to Director Adam Wingard Gina Carano Hits Back, Announces New Movie Project With Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire: “They Can’t Cancel Us If We Don’t Let Them” The Ugly Backstory of Ben Shapiro’s First Movie ‘Run Hide Fight’ Gina Carano Hits Back, Announces New Movie Project With Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire: “They Can’t Cancel Us If We Don’t Let Them” Where to Watch ‘Run Hide Fight’ Movie WATCH: Jakob Ogawa - Velvet Light Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 and my kids without warning stare dead ass in my eyes, then I pour my dew, and the world's all right with me. Just one Mountain Dew, and I know it's gonna be a long ass day. And I know it's gonna be a long ass day. That is courtesy of the one, the only, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Now come and listen to my story about a man named Miles. I can crush an AKA, any era, any style on IG. I go live with videos of food
Starting point is 00:03:05 to show superhuman podcasters a regular-ass dude. The homie that is Valley Gold. Trending T. Oh, man. Cock-a-shizzle. Give me the fucking Beverly Trillbillies vibrations with that AK. Thank you so much. The voiceover at the end really did it for me. That part
Starting point is 00:03:26 always got me because that was like you know, Homeboy and Boys to Men where it's like, let the bass come through now and he's like, oil that is and I was like, okay, yeah. I like that that was a part for people in bands back in the day. It's like, who's got the deepest voice? Yeah, yeah. Because that's the bridge.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Who's got a voice that's like deeper than any human voice should be um all right well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented beza dabu hey hey hey hey there he is i wish i had a i wish i had a parody lyrics to a song hey man oh come on man we're just come with uh come as you are come yes as you are yeah there you go um you know lovely day as you are lovely day by bill withers one of my favorite songs of all time but there's an alt j cover do you guys know the band alt j yeah yeah yeah yeah there's an alt j cover is it good there's an ultra cover it's incredible it's one of those covers yeah yeah it's one of those covers you listen to where you're like
Starting point is 00:04:33 is this but the lead singer's like when i look at you it really is like that's how he gets down it really is it's like it's like a lovely day but it's but it's like bing bing bing bing and the the they're on the back we're going lovely day lovely day lovely day um but it's great i would recommend everybody listen to the alt j cover of hell yeah lovely day did you ever see that video that like blew up like probably eight years ago when like college kids right yeah yeah when it was like how to make every alt j song and i'm like it's so spot on but i was still rocking so hard with all i'm like i don't even care bro it was spot on i actually loved their parody song i love their parody song that video has like 40 million views and i think i'm 22 million of them right for sure but the dude's eating like what
Starting point is 00:05:21 are those called those like they're like air cakes, like air rice crackers. They're a little like round. Pop chalice. Yes, but they're like bigger. They're like discs. Right, right. Like a rice cake. Isn't that a rice cake?
Starting point is 00:05:32 Yeah, it's like a rice cake. He's eating a rice cake in rhythm to All J. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Anyway. How have you been, man? What's new with you?
Starting point is 00:05:43 I've been great. 2021 is proving for me to be a lot better than 2020. Good, good. I like to hear that. But I've been good. I'm making some traction on a show that I'm developing, so that feels good to finally at least have some meetings. Who knows what's going to come of them, but that's good.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And, you know, I'm living with my cat still yeah because i feel like that was the we left you last we left you cat the cat life yeah in that life we were actually scheduled to record this pod on the one year anniversary of me getting my cat and i was so excited to talk about that then something came up where i had to move our pod and then the thing that came up got canceled the night before our pod and then the thing that came up got canceled the night before so i ended up having nothing to do that well i mean well i would like to congratulate you and your cat on one year you know one happy year solid solid beauty she is many happy returns i still look at her and go oh my god you're the cutest cat in the world
Starting point is 00:06:40 that's the benefit that's the thing that pets do you know what i mean like it's hard to you know cast your gaze upon something and then have a good feeling immediately but sometimes i'll watch a dog or cat just like you know when the pet does a thing where they just turn over and they're like hi i think it's still getting me every time i'm like put their paws up by their ears yeah yeah she's doing this new thing where she while i'm sleeping she'll come up she'll put her nose to my nose for a second what and then she'll she'll she'll basically lay down on her side the same direct facing the same direction as me and then she'll slowly scoot back into my chest oh a little so she'll how small spoon but it's the way she does it right
Starting point is 00:07:24 she'll be like two feet away. Like a whole method. And then she'll do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. And she'll spin all the way back into my chest. And I'm just like, come here, come here. It's so cute. I talk to her. Do you guys have cat voices?
Starting point is 00:07:35 Because mine's like a witch, sort of. Yeah, I was just going to say, you sound like the witch from a children's TV show. I'm always like a fun witch. I just have 3,000 names for my pets. I see. You don't go into a voice that it's almost like my body can't control it when I talk. No, like it's weird. I'll end up talking
Starting point is 00:07:56 like my uncle or grandfather being like, what you doing in there? Like if the cat meows, like I like to fuck with it back. It's like, meh, I'm a huh. Meh, I'm a huh. That's got to be your rap ad lib. Huh?
Starting point is 00:08:11 Huh? Yeah, exactly. It's like, was it French Montana's huh? But I'm more huh, huh. Huh? Huh? Exactly. Jack, do you have a cat?
Starting point is 00:08:21 I don't, no. I got, we had two dogs, and now we have two boys, two little boys. So they take up all our time. Cast a spell on the dogs. Do you talk to your boys in a weird voice? I don't think so. I don't know, Miles. You've heard me randomly.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Yeah, you're like, huh? Huh? Dad! Huh? Whenever I talk to my cat, it's like i have no control over my body just goes oh you're so cute yeah it just goes in this like high-pitched witch i don't know it's weird i do that with human children more i find myself having an affect when i talk to like little babies. I'm like, oh, you little baby. Yeah, that's how I do that. Speaking of 2021 versus 2020,
Starting point is 00:09:10 there's that ad that still runs on Hulu. I think it's for Match.com and like the premises that Satan and 2020 are like the perfect match. And then there's like a bit where 2020 is like, I've met 2021. She's basic like does that ad work anymore after the insurrection like the that is like basically assuming 2021 is gonna
Starting point is 00:09:34 be way better than 2020 and i was surprised that it was still running like as late as the end of last week it's just so don't even that's not an exercise we need to engage in at all especially not in a commercial like that's for his those are for like thinking people to like look back on this awful time also the ad match who would you rather fuck this year that year also to say that in february right is is like saying we're going to win this game. Yeah. The first two minutes of the first quarter. It's like, well, we just started.
Starting point is 00:10:09 We're up three. Relax. Don't be Leon Lett with that football. Just hold it up. You're not even an end zone, fam. Because that's like, that would be the meme, right? Is that ad where it's Leon Lett holding the football up and Don Beebe is like 2021 coming behind you
Starting point is 00:10:23 to fucking strip that shit. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment bays up first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about we got an update on those buffalo cops uh who we saw push that old guy over uh we've got a story of a oath keeper who is waiting on word from Trump to activate her. We're going to talk about another Bundy kind of wave that's coming at us. Eamon Bundy. Eamon Bundy. I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:54 how to pronounce that. Eamon. Eamon. We're going to talk about that face-off remake slash sequel. We're going to talk about Gina Carano and her future. We're going to talk about Gina Carano and her future. We're going to talk about pizza reheating techniques and the new box office king.
Starting point is 00:11:14 The biggest box office hit in the history of movies just happened, and a lot of people might have missed it. So we'll talk about that. All of that, plenty more. But first, we like to ask our guest bezod what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are so i recently had to search why my non-stick can you put a non-stick pan in the dishwasher what'd you learn?
Starting point is 00:11:46 I learned nothing because the whole internet says, so look, I get these pans and they're only like nonstick for like a little bit. And then all of a sudden the fish is sticking to the pan even if I put oil on it and it makes me mad.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And I'm like, why does the nonstick coating like not work so quickly? And I'm like, well, I do put it in the dishwasher. Someone was like, you can't do that. And then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:12:04 well, that doesn't make sense because on the bottom it's got a little dishwasher icon. And I'm like, well, I do put it in the dishwasher. Someone was like, you can't do that. And then I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense. Cause on the bottom, it's got a little dishwasher icon. So I think I can. So it all depends. I mean, really how hot the dishwasher is and all that kind of crap.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It's like, how am I supposed to know how hot my dishwasher is? I don't know how hot my dishwasher gets. Yeah. And also like, why do you have to make that judgment call on how attractive your dishwasher is? We all have different tastes. I don't know how hot your dishwasher is versus mine but i know mine is a hot dishwasher but i don't see that's why i got you know this i will invite you bazod to the world
Starting point is 00:12:36 of stainless steel cookery you know what i mean so you don't mess with that with the with the non-stick pans all right kids bro it's for the kids you know for kids i mean like well also too like as i because quarantine has made me like really focus on cooking and non-stick is great it's super convenient like if you okay i do have non-stick for like certain things like if i want to melt like just a block of cheese onto a piece of bread and just let that thing fall right off the pan non-stick is right there uh or do like a little eggy in the window where you cut out like the middle of the piece of white bread and then you put cheese down then you crack an egg in that
Starting point is 00:13:08 hole and then that's called toad in the hole or whatever can you make an egg on a nonstick on a not a nonstick pan yeah you just gotta i mean you gotta grease it up and keep it moving yeah you gotta keep it moving is it a lot of grease though you gotta do a lot of spray a little bit yeah a little bit but i think the benefit though is when you cook like other proteins like fish, obviously is delicate, but like chicken or pork, whatever, you get that fond on the bottom of your pan, that crust. So like when you want to deglaze your pan, you got all that flavor to start making all this other shit with it. That's why I like. Miles, you know, I've also been cooking a lot in the quarantine and focusing on it more. And I think you have just convinced me that I'm going to go buy a stainless steel pan.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Just look at the, you know, just look. And they're also, they're easy. They'll look like you burnt the shit out of it, but that's the great thing about stainless steel. You get fucking, you know, you get a stainless steel cleaning, like iron, you know, Brillo pad. Buff the shit out of it, and it's good, baby. But real talk, I like cooking on my cast iron skillet.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Yeah, oh, of course. Now, you can't cook delicate things like fish on there, but I like cooking. No, you don't want to do that. But I like cooking, like, chicken on there. I like cooking steak my cast iron skillet yeah oh of course now you can't cook delicate things like fish on there but i don't want to do that but i but i like cooking like chicken on there i like cooking steak on there veggies veggies yeah because you can't you can't match the heat of that skillet the non-stickness of a non-stick pan feels like one of those advances that i don't trust like it's too like whatever chemical they're putting on that seems too good to be true and too unnatural that it shouldn't be possible. I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:14:31 I try not to put my non-sticks in the dishwasher, though, just because they're easier to clean, so I don't want to put it through that. Because a lot of time with a non-stick, I'll just put water in the pan and boil the water to just loosen everything that's on the pan still. And then just kind of softly clean it off
Starting point is 00:14:48 to keep it going. Because when you get rough on that nonstick, the clock can get ticking. See, I'm so lazy. Sometimes if I got leftovers, I'll just put the top on the nonstick pan and then put the whole pan in the fridge. Great.
Starting point is 00:15:03 But then what happens is when you eat all that the rest over is like caked on and sometimes that's when i'm like dishwasher right right right yeah dude i'm telling you loosening it with water it's like the most underutilized way of cleaning your cook stuff is just like put a little bit of water and boil it and it will it will separate so much from the pan are Are you trying to steal my underrated, which was loosening food off pans with water? So if they're just spraying the pan with non-stick
Starting point is 00:15:35 stuff and that comes off in the dishwasher, why don't they make the whole pan out of the non-stick stuff? What are you doing? It doesn't make sense. Also, if it comes off in the heat of the non-stick stuff. What are you doing? Why is it the whole pan non-stick? It doesn't make sense. Also, if it comes off in the heat of the dishwasher, why wouldn't it come off in the heat of the stove and go in your food?
Starting point is 00:15:51 Oh, it is, and you are ingesting it. Yeah. On top of that, you know how many roommates and people I've dated, I've been like, yo, don't put the metal utensils in that non-stick. Are you for real, fam? No, you can't do that shit. That's the thing most people don't realize.
Starting point is 00:16:04 You cannot be using metal utensils in there and scraping that shit up. You're exposing a lot of the chemicals at that point. That's why I'm like, I'm just going to keep a steel, baby. Yeah. All right. Well, now I'm a little scared. Use the wooden utensils, plastic. Please don't put metal utensils in your nonstick, please.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Now I'm scared about everything I do. And you're right. Now I'm just thinking about all that. Whatever alien chemical they're putting on that pan like it must be some alien chemical they can't possibly can you imagine the factory they make those pods and they must smell so bad right right right right like people just come out just coated there's like sliding around they can't stop when they're walking. I mean, you're going to love Ives' Wheat.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's PTFE or polytetrafluoroethylene for your non-sticks or Teflon. Basically, it's Teflon. May I introduce you to my girl, Pam? She does a good work in the kitchen. What is something you think is underrated,
Starting point is 00:17:04 Beza? Something that you think is underrated, Beza? All right. Something that I think is underrated is... We're staying in the kitchen, y'all. Okay. Crockpots. Crockpots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Crockpots are underrated. Let me guess. Because you don't like dishes. And what's better than one dish listen crockpots are underrated because i have tricked so many people in my life that i've come over for dinner i i'm like oh you're coming over for dinner i'm going to i'll put a whole bunch of shit in a crockpot and then before they come over for dinner i'll separate everything you know i'm saying right right so then it looks like I've made everything separate.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Right, right. Fam. Here's some sauteed vegetables. Exactly, exactly. If you put a chicken in there with a little bit of chicken broth or vegetable broth so it stays moist, the chicken is going to be so damn perfect. Delicious, juicy, yeah. And then you'd be like, yeah, the chicken's perfect, isn so damn perfect delicious juicy yeah and then you'd be like
Starting point is 00:18:05 yeah the chicken's perfect isn't it yeah yeah and then and then like could have gone either way could have gone either way and i'm a crock i'm a crockpot master i know how to season the shit out of that crockpot meal right and then it's like when to when to like open it up at the very end and we'll throw a little sprinkle of cheese on it just so it gets a nice little melt cheese on the chicken no no on the whole thing on the whole on the whole concoction wow and because you can put mashed potatoes in there and stuff like that do a little potatoes in there anyway so i do anyways crockpots are underrated and it's almost like people will be like oh well you cheated it's like well you don't even know i cheated did i cheat also did you cheat is it edible and you're you have been sustained by the
Starting point is 00:18:42 nutrients contained within. Sounds like you're taking the KFC bowl approach to the crock pot. All the mashed potatoes and cheese. You know what? You know what? You're not wrong. And then you put a biscuit on there. You're not wrong. Put the biscuit dough in there.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Yo, if you talk to Beza Dabu of 2005, 2006. Your boy had that KFC bowl three, four times a week. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. My blood type was KFC gravy. I'm not joking. 2005, 2006, my living room window looked into a KFC parking lot. And it was funny because me and my roommate roommate and i we would get high and look
Starting point is 00:19:26 out that window because there was like this kind of person who go to kfc that like didn't want to eat in the restaurant but also didn't want to go to the like wanted to order inside but didn't want to like take it to go or drive through and then would just house that shit in their car and it was weird this for whatever this kfc was like the home of the shamed parking lot feast uh because i was like oh we got another one we got another one and we would see people do some wild shit like eat the coles like drink the coleslaw juice first and then start scooping out the slaw you see some weird shit you know because there's a little bit of you know liquid in the slaw yeah like some people beat like they want to take the little slaw juice shooter right wow anyway it's like being on safari it's weird because like there were actually two kfc bowls there was the mashed potato bowl and then there was the biscuit bowl which was the same
Starting point is 00:20:15 thing as the mashed potato bowl but it had a biscuit in it and i i literally i lived in chicago it was freezing cold those things were always piping hot i. I would go into a KFC on my way to theater school. I would grab a KFC bowl, and I would literally eat it outside. As I was going to stay warm, I was eating like four. My body has forgiven me for the way I treated it with food from 2001 to 2010. The last 15 years has just been a journey of repentance and repair for the things I put my body through and the odds. What is something you think is overrated? All right.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I'm going to get mad about this. Gift cards. Yes. Gift cards are so overrated. If you just think about it, you're just giving me cash I can only spend at one place. Why not just Venmo me? You're literally giving me cash that I can only spend in one place. And if I don't buy something worthy of or that's worth all of it, then I just got like $1.52 on a gift card.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Right. I'm salty about it. Or the alternative happens where I buy something worth it and now I gotta pay 11 in tax or something and i'm like and i'm like just i don't understand why like the only way gift cards should work should be like this right you should you give me a gift card for 50 but it costs you like 45 right like there should be some i know i understand someone will go and buy a somebody would go and buy 150 gift cards and they would make all that extra money i get it if there's a way to solve that i hope there is but otherwise gift cards are so overrated i don't see it's not it's just money i can only
Starting point is 00:21:54 spend one place you're just limiting my money it's peak like corporate brainwashing because it's like it's only a thing because we've allowed it to be a thing because it's like a social custom. It's like, oh, a gift card. Well, it has gift right there in the name, so it's a fine thing to give people, but it's just giving the corporation money. It's making a donation to corporations because I think they say like 50% of them don't get used. So you're just giving money to the company. used so you're just giving money to the company and what it wasn't until like the what 20 some years ago when they actually had to be like oh right a gift card is legal tender like you can't be suddenly like oh it expired because a lot of places were pulling that shit in the 90s i was
Starting point is 00:22:35 like but uh this blockbuster music is about to close and they're like it's it's expired son thank you i thought of this because you know when i was scheduling this thing i was like you know i have a amc gift card in my wallet and it's been there the whole damn pandemic and i'm like what am i supposed to do i'm not going back to amc for 14 years what am i supposed to do with this that shit might not exist but like an amc gift card come on now but also too like it's cultural like in asian culture like you give people straight cash yeah i guess that's not a problem that ain't no problem that ain't no problem because you just know that's for the kids that's for the kids yeah that's what i took that they're
Starting point is 00:23:17 like i'm you know i remember people would apologize like oh you know i know it's your birth but all i could give you was this heavy ass envelope and i like, you don't even have to give me a heavy ass envelope. You can cash at me. You can whatever. Yeah, exactly. But then coin base me to the point where I don't like giving a gift card feels like disrespect because it's essentially the same thing as getting a CVS Valentine's day gift. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:39 Like this last minute is fuck. Unless it's like something so specific and like interesting. If you hit me with that best buy thing, I hit the cash app hit the cash app the one thing like if somebody knows that you want to spend the money on something like and you feel like you need that excuse to spend the money on something that can be one one way that it's like worth it like if for instance stock x should have gift cards because then people would i feel like i don't know i i've had multiple times when i was like i would actually buy a stock x gift card for somebody so that they had to spend the money on something that was going to be super fun for them i mean i
Starting point is 00:24:21 get that like my mother never does any like pampering stuff for herself right yeah so like like if i got her like a spa day gift card i get that because and ain't no immigrant mom gonna waste some shit right yeah exactly that's the only way you can get them to do it like are you gonna waste it they're like fuck you got me my mom has so much my mom has so much pride in being like i've had these shoes for 14 years there's three holes in them and i still wear them and i'm like why are you proud of that go get new shoes you're like why the bottoms of your feet are fucked up it's so funny wear these new shoes it's so funny that like indians make such a point of coming to this country and then living like
Starting point is 00:25:00 they did back in india like i still have holes in my shoes and i walk every day my mom's the same where she just talks shit about americans i'm like motherfucker you got a passport now like she's like you know that's what american people do like doing all this and i'm like you're okay whatever but you know do you i get it we still gotta hold on we still gotta keep our sense of identity my mom uses the word american when she means white. Because it feels rude for her to say white people. She's really afraid of saying white people. So she'd be like, what, do you think I'm like these Americans? And I'm like, you mean white people, I think.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I think you mean white people when you say that. She used to say Justin's mom when she meant another white woman. She would be like, I'd be like, that rules. Justin's mom? Justin's mom. That could be the new parent. Got a couple of Justin's moms over here, huh? She would be like, she would go, I'd be like, mom, I want to stay.
Starting point is 00:26:03 We used to, okay, so we have this arcade that used to be like open until midnight and you could pay 20 bucks and it could be like a club feel for a bunch of 15 year olds and so i'd be like she's like we're picking you up at 10 i'm like mom it starts at 9 30 i'm not getting picked up at 10 i didn't need to at least get picked up at 12 and then she'd be like what do i look like justin's mom and i'm like justin oh wait there wasn't even the homie named justin no it was just like i look like justin's mom i think justin was like the name in her head for like obviously a white guy wow wow ryan and justin yeah what do i look like justin's mom. I wish I had Justin's mom. Oh, I loved that.
Starting point is 00:26:48 I really, that's so funny. Now I look back on it and I'm like, Oh, it's so cute. I love her. She was amazing. And back then I was like,
Starting point is 00:26:55 I hate you. Justin. Uh, I think I, I think there was a point when I was in fourth grade where I had at least three Justins in my class. It was a real
Starting point is 00:27:11 Ohio white kid name for sure. Where in Ohio, Jack? Dayton, Ohio. My best friend's from Dayton, Ohio, Will Allen. I don't know if you know Will Allen. I haven't. I moved out of there when i was 12 i mean dayton's only like what four million people yeah yeah we probably ran cross paths for
Starting point is 00:27:32 sure that's really worried about your memory jack yeah hold on will allen you didn't ring a bell i think uh beth stelling is from dayton ohio yeah there's a lot of great great stuff great culture great people from dayton ohio uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll come right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
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Starting point is 00:31:04 Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring, Daniel Thrasher, Peppermint, Morgan Jay, and more.
Starting point is 00:31:31 You got to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and amber show on will ferrell's big money players network on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back uh and we just have a a handful of uh stories of white supremacy to run through
Starting point is 00:32:10 uh that happened at the end of last week uh we found out that those two buffalo cops uh whose whose headshots are really something did y'all see their headshots i did not know not headshots mug shots but you know when it's cops hey you're in la man you're in la what can you say uh oh my god yeah but anyways we saw the whole beginning to end interaction uh of these cops walking up to an old man uh pushing him over uh him cracking his head blood coming out of his head and them walking away we saw that whole thing it's hard to watch that video it's really hard to watch that video uh and it wasn't hard though for uh them to have the all charges dismissed against them so that's from the da basically yeah yeah or the judge dismissed or they dropped the charges or
Starting point is 00:33:05 the judge dismissed the charges either way it's white supremacy protecting itself uh because even when you thought you're like well surely they can't get away with that they shoved over an elderly white man right shit that shows you when you go toe-to-toe with police it doesn't matter what the fuck bro it's like my issue uh get the fuck out my issue with that one if I remember correctly was that didn't all the police officers like walk out with the two because they got disciplined yeah Buffalo was the one where
Starting point is 00:33:33 the two got disciplined and then all the rest were like well then we quit if you're going to discipline us for you know hurting old men for assaulting citizens for okay yeah oh that a grand jury did it okay grand jury dismissed it yeah voted to not charge the cops huh it was well at least we got you know it's democracy they voted so yeah cool yikes uh i mean that was i think it was our i mean we saw that that that whole city was getting
Starting point is 00:34:01 ugly the second that shit went down uh and i remember the first thing was like all the i i remember tweeting about it when like the news was talking about all the people that had come to support the two police officers and it was just a bunch of off-duty fucking cops yeah it wasn't the community a diverse community of white guys with jeans uh with their shirts tucked into their jeans wow right cuts yeah cool all right moving uh forward uh oathkeeper uh there is a leader of the oath keepers uh who the doj revealed in the run-up to january 6th i'm concerned this is an elaborate trap unless the potus himself activates us it's not legit the potus has the right to activate units too if trump asks me to come i will otherwise i can't trust it and then the day of she was like we're in um so you know uh as as
Starting point is 00:34:57 that impeachment hearing is uh going on and he's about to be acquitted it's just like straight up going on and he's about to be acquitted it's just like straight up you know well exactly what what it's what we thought it was yeah i mean also too there's reports of like how the like senators had already like met with trump's defense team or something too there's some weird closed door meeting i mean but we don't need to know that to know they're not going to do the right thing can you uh give me the 30 second or maybe the 10 second of what the oath keepers are even oath keepers are basically retired military and police who talk like they're talking about the oath that they take to protect the country from enemies domestic and foreign and saying that like it's basically a militia group of these act retired
Starting point is 00:35:40 military law enforcement but to that to them does protecting the country mean overturning the election yes yeah yeah yeah for them it's it's a fancy way to say the constitution told me to do white supremacy with guns right that's the whole sort of logic of it because that's they're they're using this very constitutional lens to sort of justify their organization. And then speaking of white supremacy with guns, Eamon Bundy of the Bundy clan is basically creating a organization that their mission statement is they will be able to organize 10 protesters within 10 minutes 100 protesters in 100 minutes a thousand and a thousand minutes uh and they are you know just straight up like right-wing libertarians with weapons uh this is the dude whose family occupied that uh building
Starting point is 00:36:41 in oregon the mallard yeah national wildlifeuge, and who they got one of their followers killed in a shootout with the FBI. Because two guys were arrested for starting fires on federal land. And that was like the whole thing about like, well, this is bullshit. And then Trump got him out of jail in 2018. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's been like the pattern with these guys. So the whole thing started because in the early 90s, Eamon Bundy's dad was grazing his cattle on federal land.
Starting point is 00:37:15 You have to pay to do that. He was like, no, I don't have to pay because libertarian. And their whole ideals are like, you know, a version of American pride that breaks down into the road the moment you take away, like, all the social safety nets that are making it possible for them to be the pampered assholes that they are. But that's kind of what they want. They want it to break down to the road so they can just start killing whoever they want um but so that's how it started they had a showdown with the fbi and the fbi kind of backed away because that's what the fbi does when it's up against white supremacy uh and then this just kept growing to this uh national wildlife refuge in oregon uh they kind of got away with it except for like one group that basically opened fire on the fbi uh and now it's just continuing it's just
Starting point is 00:38:15 like being allowed to continue so now yeah you didn't check them when they took over the facility now they've moved on to making fucking uber for the clan uh where you just dial dial a racist and they'll pull up with that same energy from parlor they're calling it neighborhood watch on steroids which is the kkk right okay that's just that's all that is yeah sure um and right so here's a small microcosm if you need another example of not checking this shit when you have the opportunity and how it develops and gets more aggressive. Yeah, there you go. Amy Bundy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:55 What's funny is like, you know, you can't get a thousand minutes for a thousand people because shit can go off off on Twitter and people get right real quick. Yeah. I wonder how this evolves into basically paid actors through like some kind of Koch Brothers like mega check where there are people like on call for this shit. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Yeah. Because I think the fantastic version is like they can be like, oh yeah pull let me call backup or whatever because that's what it is for these people yeah yeah unfortunately they've been pretty successful at getting people together like in
Starting point is 00:39:36 they're mostly based out of the north northwest Midwest and they've been able to find the people that they need to bring to a to any situation that they deem it necessary um because this is a uh terrifyingly popular ideology uh and mostly they're focused right now on anti-mask shit which is all right come on baby that's the gateway fucking issue to then suddenly being like let's you know buy this let's fill this truck up with ammonia nitrate and do some shit
Starting point is 00:40:13 yeah because they do have a very anti-police anti-government bent to them uh that you know on the one hand you're like well it can't be all bad uh if they you know hate the police like they they had a thing about like how the back the blue rallies were bullshit uh but the i feel like the fact that they're turning on the cops is a little scary because if like the cops have a choice you know who they're gonna side with like they're gonna side with these people quickly yeah i guess it yeah yeah well stay tuned stay tuned because i mean like we have all these moments where as a country uh or even people in their communities or even in a you know political leadership role we have to address this you know these sort of uh bubbling issues in an effective way and not just sort of like ah don't worry they're like way way disorganized right now it's it's a joke right
Starting point is 00:41:12 now it's a joke right now maybe right but yeah people are motivated it's like the same thing when you see a dude like i know people who shouldn't be rappers who rap and then i'm like yo you should give up that career cut to they've been doing it for so many years like they got on and i was like you know what that's because you didn't give up and people laughed at you but you were putting in work the same like it's these when people have a fucking agenda you can't just take it as like well i don't i think it's dumb and then think it's not a threat like the what there's what they stand for is absolutely a threat to this country yeah i i have a very bad feeling that they're that this dude's name is going to be a bigger and bigger deal in the coming years um speaking of which uh nicky haley is uh another name it seems like they're uh you know she's putting in her throwing her hat in the ring
Starting point is 00:42:07 to be the next uh you know leader post trump uh if if there is a post trump right i just whatever we call all these all these like racist indians in politics nikki haley ajit pai bobby jindal there's so many bad oh dinesh d'Souza there's so many just bad ones that just make me ashamed i mean it's not just indians man we got him it's it's all over you know the internalized self-hatred and white supremacy affects everybody that black dude in michigan the politician who's running who said if he wins he would get rid of black history month in michigan i don't know if you saw that sure like i don't like sir do you know that that you have a very small audience talking like that uh knowing how you look but okay go off because that's that's what these people do to try and you
Starting point is 00:43:01 know uh stay in power or find these little like very low friction ways to get a lot of people behind you and for nikki haley i mean like a lot of people like she just broke with trump okay her quote that a lot of people pointing to are these couple ones quote we need to acknowledge he let us down he went down a path he shouldn't have and we shouldn't have followed him and we shouldn't have listened to him and we can't let that ever happen again then to go on she says when i tell you i'm angry it's an understatement i'm so disappointed in the fact that despite the loyalty and friendship he had with mike pence that he would do that to him like i'm disgusted by it now do i support impeachment hell no but i don't like what i'm seeing so you know i don't like it and i don't support any
Starting point is 00:43:47 consequences for this behavior yeah it's a really interesting move you know like i i you have to keep your eye on her because she knows where most people are you know which is most people don't like donald trump most people don't like the confederate flag and she was there when she was governor of south carolina she was like okay i could read the room i could read the room right there um she said you know she's like i knew charlottesville charlottesville was bad back then even and we're like oh wow right this way madam president um but you know right now we're seeing there are two like kinds of republicans, as they, as Trump leaves office, you have the old school GOP kind of people who want to still be able to go out in public and not get screamed at and have Chipotle throw on their head and maybe even get a chance to do one of those comedy skits on SNL. You know, like they still want to be involved.
Starting point is 00:44:40 They just want to be a part of it. They're like, look, we may disagree, but I'm not going to say racist shit racist shit out loud baby i'll do that in our conference meetings when we start drafting legislation um and then you have this this other the straight up mask off ghouls the marjorie taylor greens the lower the boberts the kevin mccarthy's who straight up don't give a fuck they're the people who are in the ascendancy right now and that's where i'm like i don't know who's gonna win this because the base likes the mask off shit right now yeah that's what they're there for they're not they're not i'm not a lot of people are looking for the return of romney who likes the romney side of things other than like a small group i think of people who i think it's like
Starting point is 00:45:20 one because a lot of these mask off ghoul people, like they're gassed up off the support they're getting like organically from the, the, the base or whatever. Right. Then the McConnell's and the other group, they know they also need a ton of money to be able to like keep up with Democrats and races. Like they just, it's part of the equation. So on one hand, I don't know, like it all depends on who realizes money is going to be more important because if the corporate donor class is like dude i can't really get down with this like you know uh fucking george floyd was an alien who had a drug overdose in minneapolis like i can't have that as like a thing i'm supporting uh and if the money moves the other way then who knows
Starting point is 00:46:01 but then there's also talk of these um neverumper or like, you know, conservatives who are like, we're not Republicans who are seriously talking about a third party or, you know, starting their own shit. So it's still very early, but I don't know what direction it goes, because I have trouble think seeing that someone who's trying to be respectable, quote unquote, like Nikki Haley ends up being someone that the Republican Party where it is now is going to nominate I keep hearing her name thrown around there's like you're right it's like the Nikki Haley slash Mitt Romney option it's like or like Liz Cheney is the same yeah I mean yeah these options are just really I don't know I mean to me they're all terrible but that's what I would think last time I was here, we talked about bubbles and we talked about liberal bubbles. And I was like, yeah, I mean, I guess that's just what we're going to think. But Nikki Haley is such an obvious liar a la Ted Cruz, where she just like lies a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And she's slicker, though. She's she's way slicker. And Ted Cruz is so punchable in a way that she's not. Right. Yeah. He's got that, like, punchable, like, frog-toed face. Yeah, he angers you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Because at this point, like, I honestly think that the nominee in 2024 is, like, some bearded dude, burly, who has, has like the protocols of the elders of zion like tatted on his face and they're like yeah and everyone's like yeah this is the guy hate man like it won't even be a name it'll be a character it'll be hate as a general rule do you think like let's just speak really broadly do you think the republicans do like a swing back to civility or a swing more towards the crazy like like for 2024 like do you think it's a mitt romney quote-unquote civility or is it like you said some crazy bearded look let's be double they doubled down on white supremacy in the summer of 2020 yeah they doubled down on that and then now i can't there's no you can't but they lost though but they lost yeah but everything so it's like do you think they want to do you think what's
Starting point is 00:48:10 happening they're not they're not checking they're not checking their members right now who are saying things that seem like the easiest thing that everyone would be like yo don't come with these sandy hook false flag don't say that shit out loud like straight up threatened like we uh cheering on violence of other people in this chamber like that's right right we can't do but they're not even doing that so that to me says they're it's a couple things they're they're very short-sighted and they just go where the the eyeballs are without thinking of what that does in the long term because like well shit there's energy over here let's go over here without realizing like oh how do i come back from fully embracing like this you know the the true
Starting point is 00:48:49 version of the gop which is what we had always seen which is less help for less people absolutely i mean they are the insurgent party the minority party in the country they're protecting a you know they're they're used they have to break rules and create rules and rewrite laws and do shit like that to stay in power and you know cheat that's how they do things and so i just feel like when they as a party see that all the energy is on the side of racism like they're they're not going to go back to pass it is on the side of open racism as opposed to right quiet racism because i mean even like someone like mitt romney who's like you don't have all that energy he's just like some old old white uncle guy and he's he kind of came was like well hold well, hold on, folks. Come on now. This was bad. And he got torn up.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah. Just for being like, just for saying, hey, hey, hey, hey, guys. Hey, pipe down in here. Like, for a second. He got his ass ripped up. So I don't know how. And you see, like, there's all these stories, too, of how other members in Congress are like, they're honestly just terrified of inviting the ire of these MAGA people and being a Republican, because now it's a foregone conclusion. The base expects you to go
Starting point is 00:50:12 pedal to the metal, burn this motherfucker down no matter what. And if you don't, you're not the true believer. You don't pass the purity test, and now they got to eat you up. All right. Let's take one more break, and we'll come back and talk about face-off. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
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Starting point is 00:54:38 i think people thought it was going to be a remake uh now it's being said that it's going to be a sequel direct sequel they use the words direct sequel so does that like that makes sense to me that it would take place in the same universe um because that's a pretty big leap that up a world where faces can be taken off and switched around so might as well make it in the same universe and you can have like a little cameo from john travolta but the i it's still the like recasting is like the fun thing right well i don't know see this is what i'm this is the idea though that i'm thinking is it one where it's the same universe or are we still dealing with Casher Troy's ghost or something? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:28 And Sean Archer? Because at the end of Face Off, right, Casher Troy gets got. Right. With the harpoon gun or whatever. And then- But his face is still intact. That's not like he got blown up. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:42 But is Sean Archer dealing with some like i've been cage face too long or something right like are you gonna deal with those same because i'll look i'm not gonna i'll come back to see their old stinking asses do it all over again but i would like so the names that i i just saw somebody suggest, Tom Hardy and Robert Pattinson, which I can't imagine two body types that are more dissimilar, but also like, you know, same shit with Nicolas Cage and John Travolta. Here's the thing. All these updates when they've done new movies, the thing they always do is they diversify it. They always try to find a way to come back and do it now with diversity. I think it'd be really interesting if they really do like a black guy and a white guy and just go and be like hey we knew it was a bad idea in development but fuck it
Starting point is 00:56:34 and they just like they're just like yes it's riz ahmed and idris elba because diversity right and like and and i just want to watch all the Ben Shapiro snowflakes go crazy about it. Ted Cruz will tweet about it. Idris Elba and Riz Ahmed don't even look alike. Yeah. Or,
Starting point is 00:56:54 or no, you know what they're going to do is they're going to say it's okay to do blackface because of face off. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:01 You know what I mean? That's how they do it. Well, it seems like it's not a problem. This is what we've been saying the whole time. And for the people who are upset at the Face Off film franchise, it's just a tale about switching faces. And I don't know why cancel culture is coming for these people.
Starting point is 00:57:16 I thought the John Williams one was fantastic. My response was like, Idris Elba is black. The face you saw was Idris Elba's face. Well, but I'll say this. Around the time the West Side Connection album came out in 1996, I prayed every night that I could have Mac-10's face. And I kind of went overboard with the bronzer at a Halloween party, and I learned the hard way that that's not a good thing.
Starting point is 00:57:44 So face or not, I want it. way that that's not a good thing. So face or not, I want it. I don't know. We'll see. I think it's, I think the hardest bit is like, you're trying to do a John Woo movie. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Cause that's where his whole, you know, John Woo, when he came to like the U S making films, like broken arrow and shit, people, Oh shit. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:00 This guy's fucking, he's got a, he's got a vibe. So I'm more like like i think the biggest thing is like can you kind of nail a john woo type thing which would be more i don't know that that might be interesting but who's the director who is like the most john woo like like who's got like a very singular action movie like sensibility like i was gonna say guy richie but he like makes a lot of yeah movies that aren't don't have that singular sensibility i feel like that's such a 90s style
Starting point is 00:58:32 i don't know that we have that style it's such a 90s like vibe but i guess john woo gives way to john wick yeah you know what I mean? In that sense. Do it Wick style, baby. Because that's what I feel like John Woo's films was a kind of action that Americans were not used to. And they're like, have you seen this hard boy? This Chow Yun fat guy? He's fucking it up with this director, John Woo.
Starting point is 00:59:00 And movie heads knew because you just heard like, yo, these movies are fucking tight. woo and like movie heads new because you just heard like yo these movies are fucking tight and then america's like oh right we're not the only people who know how to make movie with camera because we're ignorant and insular i remember being like i remember my grandfather in india being like bollywood makes more movies in one single month than hollywood makes in an entire year it's traded facts exactly yeah um yeah as long as they bring the uh excessive number of pigeons back slow motion pigeons just flying out of nowhere impossibly golden guns carceral magnetic technologies we've never heard of. It is like in terms of like because it's a sci-fi movie that takes place in the present
Starting point is 00:59:50 which is like kind of an interesting premise that you don't see that much. It's just like yeah well this is possible. Don't worry about it. It's like you're high when you write the script. You're like no it's fine. It's like right now though. What if it's not right now though? Right. It's like I think
Starting point is 01:00:05 Black Mirror owes everything to Face Off. There we go. Yes. Thank you. Well, the name I was actually looking for you guys when I was saying who is the inheritor of John Woo's mantle is Ben Shapiro, the new
Starting point is 01:00:21 powerhouse in the film world. Oh, yeah. He went and bought a school shooting movie uh in uh i think it was venice at the venice film festival to bought the distribution rights um we talked about the formation of his production company that was like yeah we take bets on things hollywood thinks are too controversial right um had nothing to do with like the development or anything he's no but then but then they were like a big big premiere night where they like went they had like a video where they were like all wearing tuxedos backstage and like talking about how the movie like just pretending like they are a big, like part of the film industry. Uh,
Starting point is 01:01:05 very, so apparently Ben Shapiro, I mean, uh, some of our sister podcasts like behind the bastards and worst year ever, uh, will occasionally just read chapters from Ben Shapiro's novel and just kind of meditate on, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:20 he's like a failed writer. And when I say failed, like he is one of the worst writers i've ever read would you hire him at cracked oh yeah yeah yeah yeah actually i mean look i mean the guy gets eyeballs miles the guy gets eyeballs uh but i just want him to hear that ben shapiro he wouldn't even hire you a cracked not that he wouldn't even like you don't have what it takes guy you don't have what it takes but like just the the writing is is next level bad and apparently he tried to be a screenwriter uh that didn't work out and so he uh did the right wing grift um and he kind of saw saw his moment took his shot shot, shot his shot when Gina Carano got fired from the Mandalorian project.
Starting point is 01:02:10 He jumped in and was like, we're developing a project. Big announcement, guys. You're going to be psyched. So we're going to get a Ben Shapiro Star Wars universe. Hopefully. Star Wars universe, hopefully. Can I just say, like, okay, so I know for a fact that there was another project in development, which was a show based off her spinoff character, a spinoff show based off her character. After her tweets in November, they scrapped it, or they at least put it on an indefinite hold. Then after this situation this past week, she got fired from Mandalorian.
Starting point is 01:02:46 then after this situation this past week she got fired from mandalorian all she had to do was not do the thing she did she swerved out of her way to be fired it's like she wanted it i've never seen an actress literally like try so hard i mean she put in her instagram profile beep bop boop to make fun of pronouns for trans people Pedro Pascal her co-star and lead of the show has a trans sibling that he just came out in support of so it's like how
Starting point is 01:03:15 dumb are you to be like beep bop boop I'm making fun of pronouns they them theirs like that's just a really dumb thing to do why are you going out of your way just don't do it just think the thing but don't say the thing that's when that culture war autopilot kicks in on these motherfuckers where they're like uh me find a like my spirit and soul somehow no like i'm here to always just say the wrong thing like that's what and i like to get y'all fired up and come on ben shapiro did you even do some research why gina carano got fired
Starting point is 01:03:46 from the mandalorian sir i believe you are a man of the jewish faith and she was out here posting straight up anti-semitic trash but you're still like come on ma we got you over here like yeah that's how you know these motherfuckers they're not about shit the implication on her post was that the Jews did more damage to the Jews than the Nazis yikes yikes whoa I mean yeah
Starting point is 01:04:14 I mean it's the thing about the attention economy that I've been talking about the past couple weeks just this dude who basically foresaw everything that's happened, uh, in the eighties, just by thinking about the fact that like once social media happened,
Starting point is 01:04:31 it would just be the loudest voice in the room would be able to completely dominate everybody's attention. And in so doing would gain power that way. Uh, and he basically back in the eights predicted like a trump-like figure and yeah like it's she is getting she's going to make a ton of noise and get a lot of attention just by saying the wildest shit and you know this is probably a very smart move by the daily wire uh and i can't wait to see the film that they make if if you have
Starting point is 01:05:08 list i don't know how many listeners you have that are you know out there decrying but freedom of speech but freedom of speech i just want to say like freedom of speech she's not going to jail for what she said she has freedom of speech freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences yes it does and and and so she said what she said and now other people have the freedom to respond because of what she said she's not going to jail for what she said and guess what i don't think she should go to jail for what she said but but if somebody else now wants to fire her for what she said a private company then a private company can fire her for what she said, a private company, then a private company can fire her for what she said. It's just to say something that anti-Semitic and Hollywood is not only racist and anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 01:05:54 It's so stupid. It's just what's and it's like you're saying it's this like such an aggressive act outward act of hostility where you're like you're you're trying right to like burn up upon re-entry into the atmosphere like that's that's the deal here because you're doing a hell of a job and three months ago you already lost something from this company like you already lost something what's wild is like we're the woke ufc fighters at who aren't fighting anymore because from what i'm seeing a lot of these people with the who've been banging each other's skulls in the ring end up on the interesting side of politics when they get out the motherfucker because tito ortiz is out here on some whoa shit out in huntington beach you're like the fucking train has left this station
Starting point is 01:06:38 who was that dude that that dude usman punched really hard there was that there was that picture of the black dude, Usman, that knocked out that Trump-supporting dude who was wearing MAGA shorts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I forget that dude. Who was it? Yeah, but that was... Wait, who was it? I remember posting the image. Yeah, Kobe.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I remember posting the image of that dude. I think his name was Kabir Usman or something like that. Kamaru. I don't know. Kamaru, yeah. I don't know. Yeah, Kobe. I remember posting the image of that dude. I think his name was Kabir Usman or something like that. Kamaru. I don't know. Kamaru. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Who's from Nigeria or was born in Nigeria and came to the U.S.
Starting point is 01:07:12 And he was talking all that shit. And it's like, whoops. Yeah, I don't know. That picture is amazing. Yeah. It's like it's catharsis for a lot of people. But yeah, I mean, this is a, we'll see what the Daily Wire can do because everything that sounds like
Starting point is 01:07:26 from what is coming out of their production company isn't like, it's just pure provocative nonsense. It's like school shooter stuff. It's going to be probably, I don't even, I can't even imagine what they come up with for Gina Carano. Like it's going to be some like Uwe Boll, like one woman fighting cancel culture in the streets of
Starting point is 01:07:46 new york or something right what's uh what's their take on school shootings are they like pro school shoot it's not their it's not their take um it's a movie that was released that they saw and like jumped on basically because it wasn't getting picked up by uh by other distributors and they claimed it was because of cancel culture but it's just um it's a a girl in a school shooting whose dad is like a hunter who teaches her like survival shit and then she just goes around and like you know diehards a team of school shooters oh so the so the point is guns protect people from guns so like if we train people okay got it
Starting point is 01:08:28 the problem with school shootings is that all the kids aren't armed so just give a bunch of 14 year olds guns got it well Bezod it has been a pleasure as always having you on the Daily Zeitgeist man where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:08:46 So the last thing I said on this podcast is give a bunch of 14-year-olds guns. Cool, cool. Yeah, so you're going out on top. So where can they sign up for those guns? Alright, y'all. Well, y'all can find me at Behzad Dabu, that's B-E-H-Z-A-D
Starting point is 01:09:03 D-A-B-U on both Instagram and Twitter. Give me a follow and love to interact with y'all. Yeah. Yeah. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. I'm really been following, I don't know if he's ever been on the pod. He should be a friend of the pod. Dwayne Perkins, the Chicago comedian and actor and writer. He had a really cool thread last week. I'd like to read really quickly. It's short.
Starting point is 01:09:34 He said, Hollywood is an industry hard to navigate because a lot of paths are dictated by trauma and abuse. It's trial by fire. People are trying to figure out what they want to do and who they want to work with, while also avoiding the places and people they've already had bad experiences with. But for people of color, so much is so bad that by the time you actually find your people in the spaces that feel like you're right for you, you're so burned out from wading through toxic sludge, you don't have the energy to do it anymore and you just want to quit. So being a POC in Hollywood is like being in a gang where you're constantly getting jumped in even though you've been in the gang for
Starting point is 01:10:05 years. I know that's kind of like dark, but it's also kind of funny. He is really great at sort of the dark and funny way. So I just I'm recommending a follow to Dwayne Perkins. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter
Starting point is 01:10:21 Instagram miles of gray. Also 420 dayfiance. Check us out on Twitch because we probably won't be there. Was this Tuesday? Yep. 420 Pacific. Now, tweet that I like. It's really just one because it relates to us.
Starting point is 01:10:37 It's from Rava. Try harder, Twitter. At Rava tweets, men with cats who don't post cat, please post your cat. Thank you. I like that you i like that i like that yeah i realize you know i don't post a lot of that i don't have a lot of pets on maine so maybe we have to change that yeah yeah uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien a tweet i liked andrew nadal tweeted if sharks stop swimming, they die, which sounds incredible, but it's also true if you put me in the ocean.
Starting point is 01:11:08 And one other one I like. And then at video underscore jame tweeted, old guy, can you help me set up a PayPal account? I don't know computers. The same old guy. I bet you don't know how to
Starting point is 01:11:23 drive stick shift, you idiot. You fucking idiot. It just made me feel better about not knowing how to drive stick shift. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We're going to link off to the information we talked about in the episode
Starting point is 01:11:46 and a song that Miles recommends. Miles, what song are we adding to the Zeitgeist playlist today? The playlist is going to be knocking. This one, but you know, look, we just had a three-day weekend. You don't want to fucking bang your head too hard. You know, you got to ease into it. So what we're going to do is go out on a song by Jacob Ogawa. And this is, you know, this is some of that bedroom pop.
Starting point is 01:12:11 This is some of that just like nice and easy. Feels a little sexy or relaxed. It depends on your mood. It's like a Rorschach test, okay? What vibe are you into? And this track is called Velvet Light because that's what it feels like. Just smooth on you, baby, by Jacob Ogawa. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:26 You can go to our playlist or footnotes to check that song out. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye.
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