The Daily Zeitgeist - Fauci BEEN Bae, SFW = NSFW 5.8.20

Episode Date: May 8, 2020

In episode 626, Jack, Miles, and Jamie are joined by comedian Sara June to discuss Trump questioning the death toll, the CDC report for re-opening businesses, Elon and Grimes' baby name, Dr. Fauci in ...a romance novel, and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump and some top aides question accuracy of virus death toll White House shelved CDC reopening guidance: report Trump and His Infallible Advisers Draft report predicts covid-19 cases will reach 200,000 a day by June 1 Big Government Won’t Let Elon Live IN DR. FAUCI WE STAN Fauci was model for hero in romance novel by Sally Quinn Sally Quinn Modeled the Erotic Hero of Her 1991 Bestseller on…Anthony Fauci Dr. Fauci Inspired a Main Character in a Steamy Bestselling 1991 Romance Novel, Says Author: ‘I Fell in Love With Him’ He Dies in Her Arms How Anthony Fauci Became America’s Doctor WATCH: Guuurl - Lapalux Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:50 and the pina colada from puerto rico listen to hungry for history on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 132, episode 5 of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Friday, May 8th, 2020. My name is Jack o'brien aka cheer up jack ob you still have miles g you're a quarantine believer and a home staying king uh that is courtesy of and Kerwin And I'm thrilled to be joined as always By my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Now
Starting point is 00:02:50 What y'all wanna do? Wanna be quarers or hoarders Warriors who be chilling at home In your drawers Getting high playing games to the morning Trying to get my hands on some toilet Like paper Living the core deal
Starting point is 00:03:05 but shit real okay i'm sorry i have to start right there shout out to hannah solters for that all about the benjamins inspired quarantine aka that's one of i believe track number 10 on the no way out album on the cd because that's how i used to just remember where songs were i think it's like one of the only songs i one of the only songs i can play on the piano uh i'm pretty good at that one and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my other co-host jamie lofton what is it good for flatten Flattening the curve. I'm just going to stop there. I don't want to yell anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:49 That made my head hurt. It's too hot out there. Okay. That's from Rich Jefferson at Device Null. And I'm sorry to DJ Dan in advance for absolutely blowing out the sound on my audio track. Not like the other day. You have to be prepared for that. Not when you exploded a piece of equipment.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Was that pop or what was that? I think it was a Papa Roach, right? Yeah, that broke here. Completely disturbed the electromagnetic frequencies in my home. And we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by the hilarious and talented Sarah June. What's up? What's up? What's up?
Starting point is 00:04:28 I don't have an AKA because I was going to do a Lou Reed, Sweet June, but it's, as Jamie said, it's too hot to do much yelling right now. But you guys get the idea, right? Sweet June. Lou Reed. Lou Reed. Lou Reed. Sarah down to the street.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Lou Reed. Sarah June. Sarah June. She's in New York City. Or am I Aziz? Sarah June, how have you been? I'm good. You know, I don't have COVID as far as I know. I am feeling very grateful these days.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah. Doing a lot of that. Yeah. I'm doing good. I hate Zoom calls. I'm going to start with that. Really? They're so fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I love them. I find them a perfect substitute for human contact and human interaction. They're the best. I mean, Jack, I got to say, I don't know if they're quite as good. Sometimes they're slow and stop. Sometimes they stop for no reason. You got to get on some of these Zoom calls we're on, Sarah, because this is wild.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It feels like fucking MTV Spring Break 97. Wow. Feels like the real world. Feels like we're all in a house together. Yeah, I want to be in my hot bedroom forever. I don't want to come out of here. We got Smiles and South Star doing a live performance in a little bit. All right, so Arjun, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:05:57 First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Trump questioning the death toll, which is his new strategy for hiding the fact that he totally fucked this up. We're going to talk about Trump hiding the CDC recommendations for reopening. We are going to talk about people gushing over Dr. Fauci. We are going to talk about the Musk Grimes child,
Starting point is 00:06:29 the Grusk baby. We're going to try and decide what our movie of the weekend is going to be. But first, Sarajum, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? In my search history, I have the last thing is, how long do you have to feed chicks starter mash?
Starting point is 00:06:52 Because I have some chicks, and I'm feeding them starter mash. Wait. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, I got chickens. When did you get chickens? I know. They hatched about two and a half weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Oh, my God. Yeah, they're really cute, and I love them. What do you feed them? Starter mash. What is that? I guess it didn't compute because I'm like, I don't know what that is. It's just grains. So, like, chicken feed is, like, grains and corn and stuff.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Oh, nice. For starter mash, they just kind of grind it up because the little chicken beaks can't, their beaks are too small. You have to make it small for them so they can eat it because they're so small. Oh, is this going to inspire another historical moment on the internet?
Starting point is 00:07:38 You know, you gave people a Nyan cat, but like. Oh, that's true. Is there going to be some chicken inspired? I made Nyan cat though, and then I got money, and then I got a cat. I didn't have enough money to get a cat before neon cat oh right i was like saving up for the adoption fee self-fulfilling it's a self-fulfilling prophecy yeah right yeah it was a it was like a holdover until wow so the desire for a cat was so intense you created a piece of monumental i manifested my cat yeah that goes in the pantheon of internet creations and it was all because you couldn't afford a cat yeah and i manifested my cat myla and that's why
Starting point is 00:08:11 she's so magical boom big girl boss energy like a huge bitch yeah extreme extreme girl boss energy thank you jamie lean right in it's that's that's beautiful yeah so now i have eight chicks oh what's the plan like what do you do long term like have uh like egg like they give you eggs or just homies so at some point i gotta um at some point i will figure out which one of them are hens and which are roosters and uh then i might have to get rid of a rooster if i have more than one rooster because you're not allowed to have more than one rooster in los angeles do they get too horny or do they fight each other they fight each other yeah they fight each other and they're like really loud and annoying so you can't have more than one because
Starting point is 00:09:00 your neighbors get too mad so more than one male in the presence of a group of females will lead to violence and just annoying behavior? Yeah, chickens are extremely hierarchical. They're really alpha. So meaning that if you've got roosters multiple, let's say you've got three, that means you're going to have to eat them? I'm not going to eat them or i'm not gonna eat them oh i'm gonna i'm gonna give them away okay i'm just thinking very oregon trail right now i'm i've been playing a lot of oregon trail it's not a crazy question honestly that's what most people do is like you hatch chicks and then when you find out which ones are men you eat those ones
Starting point is 00:09:39 um except one uh okay and then you do it in front of the surviving one. But I don't really have the stomach to do that. I got these chickens for eggs, not for meat. So, yeah, I'm not going to. I'm going to try and see if somebody else wants a rooster. Yeah, they're so cute. Wow, that's so cute. I really like that. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Thank you. It's really nice. Guys, we should send a gift. Where do you keep them? Do you have a yard that they just kind of roam around in? They have to be in a coop. They're in a coop? Wait, you got like the wire and all that?
Starting point is 00:10:13 What wire? What do you mean? I don't know. The chicken wire. The chicken wire to build a coop. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, chicken wire, actually, hot tip, guys. Chicken wire doesn't keep predators out.
Starting point is 00:10:24 It only keeps chickens in. So if you make your chicken coop out of chicken wire, actually, hot tip, guys. Chicken wire doesn't keep predators out. It only keeps chickens in. So if you make your chicken coop out of chicken wire, it's like raccoons can chew through it and shit. And like coyotes could probably fuck with it pretty easy. So it's better to use hardware cloth, which is just like a strong mesh. Got it. Sorry, did you know that you have a whole page on the Nyan Cat Wiki,
Starting point is 00:10:46 and it's a very funny page? No, I didn't know there was a, what do you mean a Nyan Cat Wiki? Like on Wikipedia? There's a whole. Or like a Know Your Meme. No, it's like a nyancat.fandom.com. You have your own page. I have never been to this site.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah, it says, Sara June, now known as Meme TV. Meme? You and Means TV? It says Meme TV. Sorry, Sarajoon. Is that how I should have introduced you? I apologize. Hey, Meme TV. I should have said our guest,
Starting point is 00:11:16 Meme TV. What's the kid's name in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? I didn't know there was a... Charlie. Augustus. No, there's some kid which one tv he got isn't his last tv mike mike tv yeah yeah so you're like sister mean tv i mean i mean tv
Starting point is 00:11:35 i loved mike tv in the book mike tv was always like this shit's boring i want to watch tv and i was like this guy gets it. Yeah, he was presaging like our generation. We're like, yeah, fuck yeah. Yeah, yeah. He was like, TV fucking rules. Like, amp it up, dude. My attention span is shot. When you cosplay at a whimsical candy factory,
Starting point is 00:11:58 that shows you have the attention span that's not capable of appreciating anything. You're like, I could be in this amazing place, but I still need to look like a cowboy. Yeah, like, come on, dude. You're too desensitized. Stop watching porn for a while. You should say for any uninitiated listeners,
Starting point is 00:12:13 you created the Nyan Cat. That's not a joke. Yeah. That's not a joke. Well, it's also, you know, there's... Check the wiki. I think it's a little more accurate to say I combined two properties into a meme.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I didn't draw the Neon Cat GIF and I didn't make the song. I just put them together and put them on YouTube. So I feel like it's misleading to say I made the meme. But I was part of a wonderful team of people that didn't know each other. We love that honesty and humility we love the honesty and humility and that has been this segment of behind the meme on the daily zeitgeist thank you so much oh my god there's a page about me she is she is now a comedian and a feminist who works for a company what does that even mean sorry j, what is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:13:06 Um, this page about me on this. No, okay. Honestly, the thing that I was going to say is underrated is Craigslist. Um, especially the free section.
Starting point is 00:13:17 People are like, yeah, whatever Craigslist, but did you know Craigslist still doesn't have any ads on it? Yeah. Isn't that fucking crazy? They keep it funky it yeah isn't that fucking crazy they keep it funky yeah that's amazing they're guys funky that guy craig is kind of a trippy dude isn't he who started it craig fucking rules dude it's just like one of one of the only usable websites left
Starting point is 00:13:39 on the fucking internet because like i got back on twitter for a little bit and i was on there for like two weeks and then they were like design re-update to make it better and I was like this fucking company wants me to quit like they want you to stop using the fucking app why else would they keep fucking with their algorithm
Starting point is 00:13:56 they hate me personally they want to weed out the casuals that's me I'm a casual i'm a bandwagon yeah there's something about those like that original generation of websites like uh snopes is still out here as like a source that we're like still doing it it's still doing it man they they're still like we still trust snopes right yeah there was, there was. I think so. Yeah. A Zeitgang member put me onto some like
Starting point is 00:14:26 Snopes drama that there was like a bit of infighting within Snopes and there was a bit of a, there was a great schism. Was it about a myth or about like,
Starting point is 00:14:35 what? I don't know. I think it was just about people. I don't know. I don't know if it was necessarily about like the work that was being done rather than maybe
Starting point is 00:14:42 interpersonal things or maybe where the direction of it was going. It started with the myth about coke having cocaine in it and they just couldn't figure it out. Yeah, I mean, the Beatles had a big schism too, but they're still good, some people think. Church of England, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:01 sometimes you get two good things. Church of England, you know, sometimes you get two good things. So how do, like, does Craigslist, is it a business or is it just like a service that's being provided? I'm curious, like, what the inner workings are of that. Because, I mean, they must employ people to keep it working and keep it, like, moderated, right? I don't know. I just use the website and it and it does what i need it to do and i i get to see what kind of weird shit my neighbors are giving away like yeah it's great i love not having to like relearn how to use the website every time i fucking use
Starting point is 00:15:38 it i hear they take a 15 cut of all free couches that are given away on their platform. Yeah. They take a big cut of all the clean fill dirt. We've mostly furnished our apartment with stuff from LetGo. It's like... That shit is useful. We got a ton of
Starting point is 00:15:59 cheap, better than we could normally afford furniture. Yeah, we got that on let go you could fucking you could outfit a whole backyard with let go it's amazing how oh yeah it's funny because it appeals to something like there's there's also there are people who just want to get rid of stuff then there are people who are like have like wild disposable income and are just like if you come get this like it's yours just please like get it out of here or something like breaks and they're like i don't want to get this fixed you just take it if you come get this, it's yours. Just please get it out of here. Or something breaks and they're like, I don't want to get this fixed. You just take it if you can get it fixed.
Starting point is 00:16:29 If you just replace that screw, it will – I can't handle it. I'm stressed out. Please get it out of here. Please. I'm sorry, but enjoy. Have your people call my people to come over here. Literally, we just put in richer zip codes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah, and then we're like, okay. 90210. And it was literally some rich person that we got our couch from that's like, I just signed a deal with something and I need to get rid of this couch. And we're like, okay, can we give you $150? He was like, I don't care. Just get it. Just get it now. Just get it.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Take it out of here it's haunting me life and now i love it's a fun couch uh fun fact about craig uh craig newmark of craigslist leonard cohen was the rabbi at his wedding what yeah he was yes that's style wait like the leonard cohen the leonard cohen canadian singer songwriter. Yes, this man was the rabbi at Craig's wedding in 2012 or something. Craig's influence. Oh, a big thing about Craigslist now is a lot of office spaces are shutting down and also restaurants. So many of them are giving away a lot of stuff on Craigslist. So it's a particularly hot time to get things.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's wild. Yeah. Well, just like this pattern, though, too, of businesses go bust, and then the people were like, is there stuff at affordable rates that we can pick off this corpse? Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Another fun, free thing that happened, at least in LA, was that the LA Public Library
Starting point is 00:18:02 forgave all late fees. So my library card got reinstated. Oh my God, congrats, Jamie. Yeah, so if you accidentally stole a library book three years ago and then got scared, you're back. You're back in business. I wish Glendale would do that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Then I could go there again. Yeah, right? What is something you think is overrated, Sarju? I would have to say our president, Donald Trump. Oh, wow. All right. We're not that kind of podcast, Sarju. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Okay. All right. Dan, cut our mic off. Cut our mic off. We're so sorry. You know, we're normally very- Sometimes I feel like he doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about. No.
Starting point is 00:18:43 You know what I'm saying? What? You know what I'm saying? What? You know what I'm saying? I know it's crazy because he's the president. I fully think this is actually truly overrated because I just think that we have, like, it's just become normalized to us. And now it's just become normalized to us and now it's it's so wild like how badly he fucked this covet 19 thing up the fact that america is the worst in the world and it's all because of him um is pretty
Starting point is 00:19:17 it's all shocking it's just completely born out of ignorance and ego that's the thing. That's what makes it so fucked up and tragic. And I think that's why half the time we just got to go into our brains and laugh this shit off as we go just spiral out. Because it's hard to even imagine that someone could do something like that and be so inept in causing people's lives and then just try and be like, yo, dude, I i'm gonna spike the football on this so total victory on covid yeah um all right i mean i know all of that's going to be cut uh because we can't really come out here and criticize the president but yeah that's not
Starting point is 00:19:56 a dear leader we'll get our funding i think it's just good to get that off our chest am i right yeah yeah so dan please cut that and then um jack why don't you say something that'll come back in right seamlessly so the listeners don't know what was just said? Sorry, June. What is a myth? What's something you know to be false that people think is true or vice versa? I know, and I have known for some time, that open plan offices are actually really bad. Yeah. I may be rocking the boat a little bit here with my hot take, but open plan offices are the worst fucking thing
Starting point is 00:20:33 to happen to offices since offices were invented. Open plan offices are distracting for everybody. They do not enhance creativity. All they do is make it so you have to yell all the time because everybody is talking and you have to yell all the time because everybody is talking and you have to yell over them. And now I have been proven right by the coronavirus because it turns out that a lot of companies are trying to redesign their open plan offices because open plan offices extremely conducive
Starting point is 00:21:00 to spreading diseases. Yeah. Yeah. So now places are trying to get like flexibility basically sneeze guards around every cubicle you know raising a half wall to a higher wall transparently almost like a room but not quite here's i like i don't want to like yeah it's like i don't want to like trigger gen x i know that gen x put a lot of effort into hating cubicles but like i fuck with cubicles i've never had a problem with them i like having my own little
Starting point is 00:21:31 space and like it's called soundproofing also like the point of the cubicle is like you can't really hear people that well right like it's because there's like natural baffling in the panels of your cubicle and in it i mean it this maybe a more, but like, you don't, I don't like having a coworker having such, I don't like knowing what's going on in the tabs near me because I'm always going to look. Yeah, exactly. I'm always looking over at other people's tabs. And then they're always looking at you.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And then they're always looking at your tabs and no one wants to know what's in the tabs. And I just want to look at earrings that I'm not going to buy. Right. Well, that's the fun thing about it. Don't rush me. Okay? Oh, yeah. Well, I think those are all the office.
Starting point is 00:22:17 It's funny because the office used to be like the pinnacle of doing it. You're like, I got an office. You know what I mean? I have my own fucking door and shit. And then there was this like swing where it's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:28 that's like for, that's like for grandpa. Like, you know, like let's just kind of, let's make it like kindergarten, but with desks and way more stress.
Starting point is 00:22:37 What if the kids went in the cubbies? So wait, they want just like clear sneeze guards so that you're like in a little glass. Gotta be able to see each other, Jamie. Gotta be able to see your screen. See, it doesn't solve the tab issue. See, we need opaque guard.
Starting point is 00:22:55 I'm not advocating for transparent sneeze guards. A sneeze guard is a nightmare. That would make you feel, I think, even more of like a prisoner. That you're already dealing with the tab thing and people can see into your tab. Now you're in this plexiglass menagerie. It's all.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Seeing the tabs brings out an ugly side of me because then I just get like... I started texting my friend being like, this fucking... Oh, they're just on eBay.com. And then I'm also on eBay.com. But I'm just like, this fucking they're oh they're just on ebay.com and then like I'm also on ebay.com but I'm just like this fucking
Starting point is 00:23:28 slacker this MF is checking Twitter yeah right right right exactly I am tweeting this you're like
Starting point is 00:23:33 ugh it's like they're looking they're looking for Drusilla from Buffy merch like what the fuck why Drusilla
Starting point is 00:23:41 I don't want anyone to know what's going on on my ebay yeah I think i think your desktop should be private i think it's a man's right to have nobody look at his desktop while he's browsing that's another zoom anxiety too of like people are sharing their desktops on zoom and i like every time i would never i would never you're just like every time i I would never. I would never. You're just like, what kind of. Every time I get in a situation where somebody has to share screens with me,
Starting point is 00:24:08 I put all of my shit that's on my desktop into a new folder and I title it Epstein Theories. So it just looks like there's nothing on my desktop. It's totally clean except for this one little folder. Make multiple Epstein Theory V1, Epstein Theory V2,
Starting point is 00:24:24 Epstein Theories V3, V4, V5, V6. Epstein Theories 2020. In a general, little folder make multiple epstein theory v1 epstein theory v2 epstein theories v3 v4 v5 v6 epstein theories 2020 in a general like in your desktop in a general sense people who share their screen with you on zoom have no inner life and nothing to fear or a work computer that's separate from the other right yeah the only time i've done a screen share is for work uh other times i think like zoom it's weird i don't like to use zoom all the time to like interact sometimes i use google hangouts like with certain friend groups just to feel like it's like zoom's become my home too where it's like uh-oh can't have my work and my pleasure blur into one app now yeah you have to delineate somehow between things that are the
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Starting point is 00:30:00 them of is fraud and like extremely illegal and is not just like an incidental thing it would be like definitely worth uh stopping everything to investigate if they thought that's what was happening um yeah you know because medical businesses and facilities are notorious for not trying to safeguard against any kind of lawsuit or malpractice anything. So yeah, I can see this going rampant of just being like, yeah, we'll just fake a bunch of death certificates. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And the people who aren't members of the Trump administration, the experts actually think the COVID-19 death count is probably up over 100,000, just using the process of, like, here's how many people typically die this month, and here's how many people died this year, and it's up 100,000 over where it's been in the past,
Starting point is 00:31:00 or even more than that. The process you're describing, describing i believe is just called observation yes yes yeah common sense inference yeah i mean yeah there there there has to be a counter narrative for every single thing you know if there has to be a a finger at a point or someone to say well it's actually not us it's actually this other thing and if this is there i guess they're trying to test this one i don't know how many people are going to be like yeah that those fucking hospitals what they got it's hard for me to connect how you can really get someone energized about that except for maybe like delay some other kind of scathing leak for like a couple hours or days or something yeah they'll
Starting point is 00:31:42 find a way it seems like it seems like they've always found a way to justify sticking by the president. Because if it's just a matter of sticking it to the liberals, then they will do it. Anything is preferable over just letting the people on the left say, I told you so, I think. Well, the CDC, which is a government organization that's actually paying attention to how science works.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Which is why it's being defunded. Right. Even so, they had enough people to put together some guidance for the country on how to just begin reopening in a way that considers people's health and not killing people. Well, it's necessary because there's so much competing takes and opinions on what to do or what not to do. And having something from the CDC would be good where there's like, hey, every state,
Starting point is 00:32:45 this is what our top, you know, our disease experts are saying. This is the fucking playbook for the nation. If you do not fucking do this, then you are not safe. And people should know that with this, the, you know, the verified checkmark of the CDC on this thing that you can hopefully trust this information. The problem is there's information in this pamphlet that they put together that would basically make people feel unsafe. So the White House decided to shelve the fucking thing and told them that this this document would not see the light of day is what one source at the CDC said an administration official told them when they asked at all yeah in any form they're like get the fuck out of here luckily you know this was leaked to the AP so we have a look
Starting point is 00:33:31 at what this thing looks like and it makes sense basically they're trying to make a very you know very uh reasonable practical plan on how to maintain safety in the workplace to ensure the safety of your employees or patrons, whatever that case is, because we're dealing with what's clearly something deadly. And all of that in there is also probably going to communicate to people, oh, no, the guidelines in here is not even close to what my boss is doing. And I'm supposed to be back at work. And that's the point. Because if we don't't know what's safe then we don't know what's deadly and that's the problem and so when you can obscure these safety guidelines then you don't you
Starting point is 00:34:10 have no fucking clue like you don't i don't know that seems fine but this is it like just reading it through the little excerpts that are out there i mean it's if i were a republican governor i would be being like no don't let people see this because we're not fucking coming close to doing any of this shit. Well, that's the thing is, yeah, I feel like it comes down to like a state by state thing, too, of like something that's been throwing me as things start to slowly reopen is like it's going to be such a different story for every state, depending on how severely they dropped the ball. they dropped the ball and so like i don't know i mean i i like what this is general like what this pamphlet is is generally saying of like this is the bare minimum that needs to happen but then there are some states and i feel like i'm like anticipating a lot of like confusion and like misinterpretation of like well who gets to do this first and how clearly is that being communicated to the different states because it's like i don't know even in my own family like their state is fucked up significantly more
Starting point is 00:35:10 than california so we're living in completely different universes but like they're not being communicated to effectively so i i've not even really been talking about california because i'm like well you can't you can't really do that. I don't know. Right. Well, I think when you look at the flow chart, right, it's made to just provide, like, obviously context matters, but they're laying it out in a way that it can make sense no matter where you live. Because it's just saying like, has this criteria been met? Then go to the next step. Has this criteria ever been met? Then go to the next step. If not, all roads lead to stay fucking closed. Or it'll say, hey, open and monitor. So the first thing it asks, step one, should you consider opening? First question, is the workplace in a community no longer requiring significant mitigation? I think that's a great, boom. You can figure out very easily if that applies to you and you don't have to be like, well, I'm not New York City. Great. Next step, will reopening be in compliance with state and local orders? Will you be also ready to protect employees at higher risk for
Starting point is 00:36:09 severe illness? If you answer no to any of these questions, do not open. Then another flowchart says, if you answered yes to all of these, go to the next step. And then it's saying, this is what you need to do in your workplace. So it's like really easy to follow. And I think if I read it as an employee, I would be like, okay, good. Like if they're having to abide by this, it's like, okay, we're not in an area that is severely at risk or with a rising number of cases. And they're also doing things like putting up barriers and deep cleaning and these other things. I could start seeing myself relax a bit especially because this is coming from experts right i mean i guess my other question there is like just because i don't always
Starting point is 00:36:55 trust workplaces to uh you know consider their employees health is like or what you know like if uh what is the consequence for opening a business that is not safe? And what is the consequence for employers that are not protecting their employees? Actually, on page one, there is a caveat that says, this handbook is used with the presupposition that the reader does have a soul. Oh, okay. So nothing's going to reopen. I mean, very few places will reopen
Starting point is 00:37:26 uh yeah yeah very very few places should reopen yeah that's what you said right yeah well it's just yeah it goes on to say you know like obviously barriers like it it's not just like businesses it's like stuff for like what mass transit needs to look like, what a daycare center needs to look like, what a summer camp should look like, a church, a restaurant. Like this is really the kind of thing where you're like, I would love to know what they think is safe.
Starting point is 00:37:55 But again, because there's a line in there that basically says, you know, we need sneeze guards at cash registers and you can forget about fucking buffets or salad bars. You, that's a whole, I can only imagine the you know the the owners of the hometown's buffets and the golden corrals pulling up to the white house with bags of cash being like no no no fucking dead that yeah or what do you need what do you need to create an exemption but the problem is when you have the
Starting point is 00:38:22 cdc saying out here like with their expert opinion you do not want to have communal food troughs that people are eating out of at all. No, just cut that. Then, of course, these people are too concerned about the bottom line and capital than human safety. Big jello trough is too powerful. It's that chocolate fountain. The lure of the corral to the senior set. That moment when Laura Ingram was talking about how masks make you feel not safe, I feel like just keeps popping up in my head. That just seems to represent an entire part of not just the populace, but the government too.
Starting point is 00:39:00 The bare minimum for safety in our society is being shit canned because it doesn't look good or make you feel good yeah it's just like depressing like this is the absolute least that anyone could do in terms of like getting good information anyone could do in terms of like getting good information to workers and business people like it's such basic common sense stuff and it can't even get released it's yeah i mean what do you guys think about the idea that like the argument i don't have to wear a mask if i don't want to is kind of one of the founding values of this country i mean it depends i i think it views on how you look at it it's just basically it's not i i don't look at it because i feel that someone's telling me to do it i'm doing that as just out of consideration because i would just want to
Starting point is 00:39:57 know as a baseline societally that we're like yeah it's not just about what the fuck i want to do um it's what it's it's just about what the fuck I want to do. It's what it's just about what's good for other people. I think when you look at it as like they're trying to tell me that I can't go all fucking naked faced out there that you're missing the fucking point. And I think that's I don't know. I mean, I understand, though, like what the fuck can you tell me? This is a free country. But like, let's be real.
Starting point is 00:40:23 If you really play that out, there's nothing out nothing's fucking free here you'd have no freedom you know what I mean it reminds me of the like first amendment you know we have free speech but we can't shout fire in a crowded theater type thing like you're everything's good in theory until
Starting point is 00:40:41 it comes to you know doing something that could kill lots of people. At which point, fuck your theories. Your theories don't have feelings. That's why it's so convenient that COVID is like over now, you know. It's nice that we just sort of took care of it and, you know, people can just go back to their businesses. And, you know, people can just go back to their businesses. And, you know, unemployment doesn't have to give so many people unemployment because it would suck if COVID were just to keep going and spreading.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And people just had to go back to work because otherwise they had no income because unemployment deemed them able to work. You know, any term, like any eviction freezes are already starting to get lifted and all that bullshit that was inevitable. One thing that was very interesting to me about, I saw this article about one of the protests in like Huntington Beach, one of the reopen protests. And most of the people there were kind of like from Jefferson County, from the state of Jefferson. And they like had all these state of Jefferson shirts. And that's really far north. That's not in Huntington Beach. That's definitely not. Those aren't OC bad boys, for sure.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Yeah, those are not OC bad boys. And look, they have plenty of fucking right-wingers in the OC. They don't need to be importing them from the state of Jefferson. But they have too much money to want to... They're like, well, I also can... I have enough disposable i also can i have enough disposable income i'll just keep getting everything delivered i'll just let the poor racists handle this one yeah um but what people were saying that were quoted in that was um that uh that there were a few people quoted who were like, I had to shut down my business. The government made me shut down my business
Starting point is 00:42:27 and I'm running out of money and I don't want to take welfare. And that really threw me that these people were not at the point where they were, they weren't even at the point of like, I've tried to get unemployment and I can't, which is like a situation a lot of people are in.
Starting point is 00:42:49 They're like, i haven't even applied because i think it's morally bad to take government welfare and i was like whoa okay this is like really a choice this is really really a choice that's a motherfucker though when you're like because then i will be brown yes like that's sort of like the the idea or the concept of a person who needs help is just been it's been so vilified and dehumanized in their mind they've now the next logical step is well then if i need help then i am a subhuman so i'm about to come out here and put guns in people's faces and demand that my sandwich store opens back up yeah and i think all these deaths are just like the necessary cost of having the country that I think we have,
Starting point is 00:43:28 which is one where I don't ever have to be that subhuman person who needs help from the collective. Well, that mindset also feels very connected to a shame reaction, too, of if you need to accept help from anyone it is like yeah like you have somehow failed it's not that you could possibly be failed by a system you have personally have failed and you suck and like you should have to suffer the consequences
Starting point is 00:43:58 of you personally sucking right like i don't know that's like an old people thing too like i don't know some of these old people out here who are getting like furloughed they're like it's somehow i did this to myself and you're like look around like you did not do this to you you know you're doing easy on yourself there yeah or they're like i should be able to get through this i should be able to overcome this right it's like dude weird pride thing nobody is like dying from covid because they didn't want to live enough you know like nobody's out there being like uh yeah this is fine this is fine i'm fine with this you know like i'm just tired just like let it take me like it's not something that you can overcome with your fucking mind right like i feel like that's just like bad
Starting point is 00:44:45 american dream mentality that is just like it doesn't work people talk about like he's a fighter he's really like i know he's not gonna die because he's a fighter like about uh boris johnson and shit and it's just like well do you really know that does it have anything to do with that or is it just a lucky you know lucky to have a really good health? He's a fighter. We know almost nothing about this disease. He's such a fighter. Remember when he was screaming the N-word at that high school basketball game, and then he fought the security guards when they told him to leave because of his racist behavior?
Starting point is 00:45:16 He's a fighter. What a fight. I mean, the other really disturbing thing about all the decisions that are driving this behavior are these models that the White House is using. And we were going to talk about this earlier this week, but just very quickly, right? There are all kinds of competing models looking at like what the death toll could look like based on certain mitigation levels and things like that. And there was like a huge, there was a story earlier in the week where Trump was just like in total denial about how those numbers were going to play out given the reopening of the country. And the White House seems to really love this one very specific model, which is from the University of Washington Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.
Starting point is 00:45:55 That's the IHME models. They use that pretty frequently. And that's typically the peachiest model of all models uh out there that sort of see what the death toll could be that model has had to be changed like already three times because people and the politicians are refusing to take social distancing seriously and every time they said like yeah if we do this it's low and then we celebrate and then people go outside like you fucked it up now it's this and now it's this and it was what i think their most least recent correction was going from 60 000 deaths by august 1st to nearly 135 000
Starting point is 00:46:32 and this is the model that the president uses to justify this to other governors and people and good little corporatists like governor abbott and Governor Reynolds from Texas and Iowa, respectively, who are going to go to the White House to get their hair tussled for reopening the shit. But what's wild, though, is that the White House is using an even wackier model, which has been made by this economic advisor, Kevin Hassett, who is not a scientist. Yes, economics, the most pure science. It wasn't exactly. I mean, he's not an epidemiologist. He's not even someone who jerks off to pornos that are set in medical facilities. Like there's no I can't find a way in for this person to connect the dots.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And he has his own model. He's been showing Trump his own, which he calls a cubic model. And that that model said that there would be zero deaths or near zero deaths by May 15th. What are we doing on that? I mean, this is the kind of shit that's going on. This is great news. Fellow economists. We can't even keep up with all these fucking lies.
Starting point is 00:47:40 I wasn't even aware of that lie. But that's the motor driving this. And this is what they hold around to be like, this is what our models are so i mean that's that's what the experts think um this same guy kevin has it paul krugman like just took him down in an op-ed was just pointing out that in the mid-2000s has it denied that there was a housing bubble and suggested that only liberals believed that there was uh he was also uh in 2017 again one of those people said the tax cuts would lead to a big boost in business business investment and when he was confronted with facts still insisted it did so that's the kind of mentality we have uh shaping the death toll modeling uh in the white house like
Starting point is 00:48:21 just to give you like that's it's all just's all, just only tell me nice, nice. It's good that the only thing this guy has ever been in charge of is predicting what will happen, like, gambling with money. And now he's gambling with human lives. Your life. And he's really bad at it. Yeah. We're like, hey, you were really bad at that. Why don't we give you something more important? Why don't we raise the stakes?
Starting point is 00:48:45 Why don't we take these something more important? Why don't we raise the stakes? Why don't we take these skills into a new wheelhouse? Dude, this guy is so, he goes hell for leather, though, for these bad takes. In 2010, he was also part of a group of conservative economists
Starting point is 00:48:56 who were saying that any kind of Federal Reserve bailout was going to fucking tank the currency, lead to currency debasement and inflation. Bloomberg came back like four years later as things clearly went the other way to like ask all the signatories of this like letter like hey what what happened there you guys you guys are out there with your chest out what the fuck went down not one of them was willing to admit having been wrong including yeah
Starting point is 00:49:21 no no of course not so yeah it's just like again this guy's batting oh for 7 000 and right this is reliable somehow let's put him in charge of the recovery well it is very cubic and that sounds you know it's the kind of thing that you would have a scientist in a sci-fi movie say to to be jargony you know he's like uh uh we're gonna um we're achieving fusion with the cubic model. Oh, I'm not going to lie. That was good. I believe that shit. Sarah, when you just said, even though you're joking, you said, well, it is a cubic. Like, the model is cubic.
Starting point is 00:49:53 It was disarming. I'm not going to lie. When you said it like that, I'm like, hmm. Yeah. Well, I was trying to channel James Franco in Spider-Man 2, where another character asks him how the work is going at the lab and he goes, it's good. We're achieving fusion. And then they just move on in the conversation.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Spider-Man 2 is still one of my most favorite movies of all time. It's a great movie. It's the best Spider-Man in my opinion. It's the best Alfred Molina performance. That's the one where Franco becomes the goblin at the end, yeah. Got it. But it's mostly Alfred Molina performance. That's the one where Franco becomes the goblin at the end. Got it.
Starting point is 00:50:27 But it's mostly Alfred Molina as Doc Ock. Doc Ock. Oh, I know, I know. No Molina erasure. Fred Molina. James Franco has a great line read in that movie
Starting point is 00:50:38 where he's like dismissing his butler and I think that his butler's name is Bernard but James Franco says Bernard. Oh, wow. He says, go home, Bernard.
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Starting point is 00:55:17 the Musk and Grimes child will probably need to have an actual name, it turns out. We still haven't gotten a pronunciation of their current name, right? Yeah. I mean, all we know is X and then the A-E or the L. Okay, so as we look at it, it's the X, that A-E, shit, then fucking A through 12.
Starting point is 00:55:45 A hyphen 12. That's the name as we read each character. A through 12. I like that pronunciation, Miles. I like A through 12. I'm going to hit him with that just to make it as absurd as possible. That's kind of nice. Grimes kind of broke it down.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Just so you know, it's not a bunch of bullshit, okay? It means a lot to me in Elon Ruby Pockets Musk. X stands for the unknown variable, while A-E is the elven spelling of I. Love and or artificial intelligence. A-12 equals... Yes, Chinese.
Starting point is 00:56:17 A-12 equals the precursor to SR-17, our favorite aircraft. No weapons, no defenses, just speed. Great in battle, but, just speed. Great in battle, but non-violent. Great in battle, but non-violent? What the fuck does that mean? And A equals Archangel.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Uh-huh. Just name your baby Archangel. Why don't you shut the fuck up? Yeah, I mean, yeah. But based on that naming convention, that's just a bunch of shit that they like. That's all that is. It's more of a list than a name. It's not a bunch of shit that they like that's yeah it's more of a list than a name it's not how names work but and it reads that way according to this naming convention my first child shall be known as idah 0304 og okay now idah from my favorite
Starting point is 00:57:00 dmx album it's dark and hell's hot for the Arsenal Invincibles season of 2003-2004, and OG, my favorite strain of Kush. Okay, so that's what my child's name is. Please, please leave us alone. They're going to get so upset when they go to the souvenir store and there's no little license plate with their name on it. There's no little California license plate that says IDAH 03-04 OG. og miles why would you do that yeah i would love to leave them alone like i don't want to think about them ever again like you know the they're acting like like leave us alone it's like
Starting point is 00:57:35 yeah we don't want to talk to you like sorry i'll spend all my money like uh stocking gift stores at amusement parks with the name X-A-E-A through 13. So when they take their kid there, it's like, fuck, it's not mine no more. It's just like, you idiot. We had them all except that one. I like Baby Grusk. I think that was a great name, Baby Grusk. But according to the law in Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:58:09 or California, presumably, that's where the baby was born, they can only incorporate letters from the English alphabet, no numbers or special characters. This just seems like the last shit you want to... So it's just going to be X-A-A. Why I just... You know, if you name your kid X-anything-anything, you're just going to be X-A-A. Why? I just, you know, if you name your kid X anything, anything, you're just going to call your kid X.
Starting point is 00:58:29 So just name your kid X. Yeah. Right. X-Gone, give it to you. Speaking of, it's dark and hell is hot. Darkman X. Yeah. Well, X-Gone, that's actually, and then there was X.
Starting point is 00:58:43 Okay. This is the perfect name. This is the perfect name for the child of two big nerds because nerds also think that a list of things they like is an identity. Wow. Yeah. I'm just, yeah, I'm so absolutely sick of these losers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:04 When I read the words, our favorite aircraft, I puked. Our favorite aircraft. Our favorite aircraft. Our favorite aircraft. Well, that's how I know I'm not in love, because Her Majesty and I don't have a shared favorite aircraft. Yeah. You guys are a fake-ass couple.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Yeah, exactly. This could have been you, Miles. Could have been us, but I'm playing. I'm playing with these real names. Oh, I'm so exhausted with this couple. Do you think like- I like that they did a fake reverse etymology of their child's name,
Starting point is 00:59:40 where it was like AI is artificial intelligence, but then they noticed that it's also like the the word for love in chinese i think what uh i is japanese and then they were like yeah we did that on purpose that's on purpose oh it's japanese yeah so they were like yeah we meant we were doing that it's like a double meaning yeah so that's also what it means. Right. But like you could look at an actual name and and like say all sorts of like shit like and then this is the 13th letter in the alphabet and 13 stands for like you can do that same shit if you want to. That's why numerology rules. An actual name that you can say out loud.
Starting point is 01:00:21 You don't need to give your child a unpronounceable name i'm gonna it's just gonna be so annoying like even to them like very quickly yeah it's like this kid will not if this kid likes it they're even worse than their parents if this kid this is what's gonna happen they're gonna they're gonna try and get that child's name like legally changed to that and they're gonna say no and they're gonna be like well then fuck that we don't want a kid yeah well that that's i um i do like that uh oh my god jesus i like that rhymes had this whole thing about how she was like interesting to me oh it is should we talk about that there we talked about it a little bit the other day i don't think that there's any updates other than they're still messy as fuck and it's kind of funny i just like for ukulele goths is my favorite term i learned
Starting point is 01:01:09 yeah i think i gotta get into that whole aesthetic now yeah ukulele goths uh my makeup circus vaguely circusy stuff you know maybe a Steampunk culture Gone awry Yeah Yeah Black tutus And like striped tights Something about your heart Being ripped out of your body
Starting point is 01:01:33 By a By a marionette Some horror There's just gonna be Some really shitty Music videos Puppet metaphors Oh god
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah They're dolls you know They're just dolls Aren't we all we're all dolls we are all dolls we are all dolls actually we're all dolls oh and our hearts are pretty fragile um guys let's talk about dr fauci real quick uh okay fine i want to i want to get everybody's read I want to get everybody's read. He's hot, right? Are you asking me if I would fuck Dr. Fauci?
Starting point is 01:02:08 Is he? I don't think he's hot. I don't think anybody really thinks he's hot. I think everybody is really projecting onto Dr. Fauci. Just because somebody is saving your life doesn't mean that you need to want to fuck them. Speak for yourself. Speak for yourself. There are three Maryland-based microbiologists. saving your life doesn't mean that you need to want to fuck them well for sure yourself speak for yourself speak yeah so there are three maryland-based microbiologists who uh created a group chat to uh and this is a quote gush over is that like i've used that phrase
Starting point is 01:02:51 since i was a kid to be like oh they're really gushing over that thing does that just mean does that come from the idea that people are like coming about a thing no no no oh my god that would be horrible flowing that would be horrible however i will say i think of yeah like gushover is like when you talk about someone a lot um but oh i know and yeah an old but an old-fashioned thing to do is when somebody um kind of like exclaims to call it ejaculating um and i used to like as a kid i would read a lot of like kind of like turn of the century like kids books and and when somebody like exclaimed something they would say like wow he ejaculated um it is and i never thought i didn't know that it meant anything else and my mom at
Starting point is 01:03:38 one point i think saw it in one of my books and she was like sneakily was like sorry what is ejaculating mean and i was like it means when somebody's like talking loud and she was like, sneakily was like, Sarah, what does ejaculating mean? And I was like, it means when somebody's like talking loud. And she was like, okay. Sarah, what does ejaculating mean? Dude, when I do like nuts. Whoa. What the fuck are you doing? What are those fucking boxcar children getting up to?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Were there like words when you were a kid that you just like straight up you just for a very long time just were using it totally wrong there is I didn't know what I thought pedophile meant bad teacher because of an episode because of an episode of Degrassi that I saw wait what episode of Degrassi that I saw. Oh, shit. Wait, what episode of Degrassi?
Starting point is 01:04:26 There was some episode where Emma on Degrassi goes like, more like Mr. Pedophile, and me and my cousin called another teacher Mr. Pedophile because we thought that that meant he's just a shitty teacher, and we got in trouble at camp. Ugh. Wow. Mr. Flanagan was not a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:04:45 He was simply a bad teacher. I remember reading on the internet as a child that a pig's orgasm lasts for 30 minutes, and I didn't know what orgasm was, but I kind of vaguely knew that it was bad. And so I asked my mom what it meant, and she wouldn't tell me. Whoa. Then it's like you're super super gonna find out and get bad info but that's the weird thing is like i don't i don't know if i did i could have
Starting point is 01:05:13 just googled what is an orgasm but i didn't i guess i didn't really think of the it was it was at a time where i thought of the internet as a very different place not just a place where you could type in a question and get an answer but uh one where you had to go to like a yahoo music page in order to watch your favorite music videos on their weird flash player simpler time yeah well guys dr fauci has been giving people 30 minute long pig orgasms uh for for a long time uh since a there was a 1991 romance novel by a writer named sally quinn and according to quinn she was seated next to fauci at a dc dinner event and like fell in love with him he was like so charming and she saw what these three microbiologists who created the Fauci fan club saw because she then made him the hero of her novel, which was, I think, a big success. It was called Happy Endings.
Starting point is 01:06:17 And yeah, she was like... The subject matter is weird yeah so the subject matter so he before he was uh our guy who was just you know having to endure the the bullshit of the trump administration during this pandemic he was the guy who was having to endure the bullshit of the reagan administration during the aids crisis um he like abandoned his career to study HIV-AIDS in 1981 because he just had an intuition that this was going to get out of control. And he was the main person for HIV-AIDS in the Reagan administration. But because the Reagan administration was so backwards and conservative and homophobic, he became kind of associated with a really shitty HIV policy.
Starting point is 01:07:16 There were chants outside of the White House of, fuck you, Fauci. But then he won the protesters over by just being who he is, kind of listening to them. Caring about human life. That's wild, caring about human life. But the story
Starting point is 01:07:36 of the novel is that he is the czar of HIV AIDS and is like the czar of HIV AIDS and is treating the president who secretly has AIDS while having an affair with the former first lady. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Oh, the scientist is having an affair with the former first lady, not the president. Gotcha. Yeah. I don't know. It's pretty steamy stuff. It's so funny how in the thing, it was like,
Starting point is 01:08:14 there were some pretty interesting, like JM who wrote the piece, had some excerpts of some of the reviews that seemed pretty scathing. But also the hearing about just the dynamic of the doctor. It's like he resisted because he was married and Jewish and she is neither. It's like, what?
Starting point is 01:08:34 Okay. And then the doctor character would say lines like you are like a tumor in my brain, which is getting larger and larger each day. That's hot. So you can see why he was seen as irresistible. are like a tumor in my brain, which is getting larger and larger each day. That's hot. So you can see why he was seen as irresistible. I want to know
Starting point is 01:08:52 why is the New York Times reviewing this romance novel? I think it's because the woman, because she used to write for the Washington Post. The author, Sally Quinn, was like a respected Washington Post journalist. That's funny. And then she wrote this romance novel.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Whoa! You know, I'm like, people are writing fanfic in quarantine. I mean, who are we? Right. People have been writing fanfic for a long time. It's very funny to me that
Starting point is 01:09:23 the New York Times has this, like this is from the New York Times review of the book when it came out. You know, all the characters are made from the stuff of yesterday's Hollywood. Allison and Sadie are so interchangeably gorgeous and accomplished, and their men, Des and Michael Lanzer, are so charismatic and macho
Starting point is 01:09:40 that they seem to speak with a single voice. I'm like, yeah, have you never read a fucking romance novel? They're all the same. Like, why are you complaining oh i mean that way to legitimize this uh this art yeah there was also yeah it's great art there was the thing what is there's a line about like one of the reviewers was pointing to an interview she gave in the 70s. It says, by reputation. Did you read that part? No. About how Quinn is flippancy incarnate.
Starting point is 01:10:11 On paper, such repartee can look arch and contrived. With wit, as with charm, you usually had to be there. And then they go on about some of these sex scenes. And then they say this from someone who once answered the hand-wringing of other women journalists with being blonde doesn't hurt and that was something that apparently i was like looking into that in the 70s people were asking like you know about being a journalist and she was like you know you can take advantage of like a situation maybe they're more comfortable with you maybe there's flirtation insinuation and then like said and also being blonde doesn't hurt and apparently a lot of the women who were like there at this talk were like, that's
Starting point is 01:10:47 like the most backwards thing. Like we're all here trying to like learn some shit. And that was the answer you gave. So it's interesting to see that like that quote, I guess must have been infamous because that was 18 years before the book came out. Yeah, I think this is a big deal. This book was a big deal at the time. I see.
Starting point is 01:11:04 That makes sense. And it also makes it so much funnier that it was so viciously panned. This is hot. This is some really hot tea right now. This is hot 1991 tea. But here's the thing. Clearly, Fauci's got the Kvorka
Starting point is 01:11:19 for a certain type of personality. Oh, for sure. For sure. I don't know what, that's what I'm trying to figure out. What is it purely, is it the hope that he offers? And that's what it is, the juxtaposition of this absolute ignoramus in chief
Starting point is 01:11:35 and then like someone, a learned person just next to it. And it's like, that's so fucking hot right now. Like someone who's a fucking scientist. Yeah, I think so, especially because like, it's the same thing that's happening with Cuomo is people are like wow i love cuomo he's so amazing and it's like he's actually doing a really bad job but he's still doing way better than trump so right you know people people think he's it's like wow he's so reassuring right now it's like yeah compared to trump the like man with dementia who doesn't give a fuck about anyone else or like
Starting point is 01:12:03 can't conceptualize who he is or what he's doing like yeah anybody looks hot next to him it's like you know you bring you bring someone who looks worse than you to the bar to make you look good that's basic science guys so fauci on tinder it's him and trump in his profile yeah it's him next to trump and he's he's he's pointing at trump, can you fucking believe this guy? And you're like, oh my God. Like the photo is of me. You are looking for me.
Starting point is 01:12:30 You are swiping for me. There's also the thing of like, on paper, he is really like the perfect romance novel lead. He's a doctor. He seems to like give a shit about people. You know, he's very smart. And you know, by Quinn's...
Starting point is 01:12:45 Yeah, he's athletic. He's like the guy who's the star of the... Dr. Robert Langdon, the star of the fucking Da Vinci Code and, you know, Dan Brown books. Yeah. He's a puzzle expert, though. That guy.
Starting point is 01:12:57 He's the best at word jumbles. Yeah, he's like a puzzle expert, but he's also like a swimmer. And actually, his students call him the dolphin because he's like a puzzle expert but he's also like a swimmer and um actually his students call him the dolphin because he's always swimming laughs this is canon this is canon the origins book is is really good yeah because they like really go into like wow he's like all his girl students have crushes on him and i'm like like, okay, yeah. You could cast Fauci as this. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:27 The shape of his core reminded us of a Roman statue. Yeah. Absolutely. All right, guys. So before we go, we want to figure out what we're going to do for the rewatch. I think we're going to change things up and actually spread it out a little bit so as to me not make you guys have to
Starting point is 01:13:50 watch Trolls World Tour. I think someone needs to watch that because it is changing the film industry. I'm going to watch that with my kids over the weekend if anybody wants to join with me. I'm going to watch it anyways.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Miles, what are you thinking think i think i will be you know i think what's interesting about this segment is now we are going to subject ourselves to this content and let you know if it's worth dipping in because there are so many shows that we see that i've not actually watched or like there's so many shows that we hear talked about that i've not actually seen um and right now one of the top shows on netflix is outer banks uh so i've been that for like three weeks yeah what the fuck is it it's just like a really cool sort of actiony soap opera about the outer banks uh area i believe in north carolina it could be both carolinas but um the outer bank like it's about this beach town where these poor kids stumble upon a fucking huge pile of money that they don't know where it came from, and now they're living life on the rich part of town.
Starting point is 01:14:53 But whoever's money that is, oh, they're coming for it. And they're navigating just being 14s with a little bit of money and, I don't know, it seems like it's got everything. So I will be watching outer banks or at least the first couple episodes to give my take jamie what are you gonna watch i'm gonna watch extraction 2020 starring chris hemsworth it looks like absolute like the opposite of movies that i want to watch uh and i don't it's something about chris hemsworth I bet he shoots someone
Starting point is 01:15:26 I bet he does something fucked up I bet he gets kissed these are my predictions but if you want to join extraction squad yeah that's another one I've seen in the top 10 on Netflix quite a bit it came out like I think two weeks
Starting point is 01:15:43 ago I just read that 90 million people have somehow seen this movie because... Holy shit. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm going to see. I forget which Chris Hemsworth is, and I look forward to remembering which Chris he is.
Starting point is 01:15:58 All right. So we are covering the zeitgeist for you guys. And that movie directed by the Russo brothers. Well, yeah, because he's a Marvel Chris, right? Which Chris is he? You can tell me. He's Thor. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I think I mixed him up with the Wonder Woman Chris. Which one is that? Oh, Chris Pine? Pine. Yeah, I don't know who that is. Pine's got really striking eyes, and Thor has really striking body. All the Chris's do,
Starting point is 01:16:27 but they're all like, you guys vote fucking Republican. I don't trust you. Chris's. I bet Chris Hemsworth doesn't, but Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt. Yeah, Chris Pratt.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I know who that Chris is. That's a bad Chris. There's another one, too. That's a bad Chris. There's Captain America. Chris Kyle? Who's Chris Kyle? Or is that a Chris? Chris Evans.'s another one too. That's a bad Chris. There's Captain America. Chris Kyle? Who's Chris Kyle? Or is that a Chris? Chris Evans. Chris Evans. Yes. Yes. Evans, Kyle,
Starting point is 01:16:52 Hemsworth, Cross. Pine. Jim from The Office. Cross, Angel. Too many Chris's. Oh, Mind Freak. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Mind Freak. That's my Chris of Pref. Cuomo. Cuomo. All right, guys. Sorry, yeah. Shout out to Mindfreak. That's my Chris of pref. Cuomo. Cuomo. My Chris is.
Starting point is 01:17:06 All right, guys. It's a Chris movie. Sorry, June. I have one. Thank you for hanging with us while we decided what we were going to watch. Where can people find you and follow you? You can go to my website, HeySorryJune.com, and it has a bunch of videos on there. Or you can go to Means.tv and subscribe to it
Starting point is 01:17:26 to watch some content that I made will be up on there soon. Nice. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And I wanted to ask people to please help me name my chickens because I have five that don't have names.
Starting point is 01:17:39 And I want to, you know, I'm sure that people have lots of good chicken name ideas because every time I tell people that I got chickens, the main thing they ask me is like, what are their names? And like, they're not, most of them don't have names yet because whatever you guys, you know, well, three of them have names, but you know, there's five more and I'm sure we can think of something good. I just want to crowdsource this because I'm like super busy feeding.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Yeah. Where should people submit their suggestions? Oh, yeah. Oh, like in the, in the, on Twitter or like, you know, on Instagram or whatever. Okay. Wait, did you give those handles out? Or I think you just gave your website. Did you?
Starting point is 01:18:16 Or you said, hey. Oh, I don't have, I don't have those handles. Sorry I was off the damn grid. You know, I can, I'm not off the grid. I just don't have an account. I will just stream them into the ether. I can still see what you guys tweet. Did you know that? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:30 So put them... Okay, exactly. Put them in the comments. Did you guys know that other people can... You don't actually need a Twitter to read people's tweets? Wait, you can see people's tweets? No. Are you serious?
Starting point is 01:18:39 Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Is it just a random assortment of tweets? I don't understand. Well, no. I have this trick. I have this code that I put in the computer and it starts with www. Don't unleash that power on people Is there a tweet
Starting point is 01:18:57 or some other work of social media Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh absolutely My tweet of the week is from Chris Stevens Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, absolutely. My tweet of the week is from Chris Stevens, who is in the sketch group, Butt. That's with two Ts, guys.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Oh, it's, yeah, butt rules. The butt. And this is, should I read the tweet? Yeah. Okay. It's a little musical emoji, and then it goes, Ladies, leave your pants at home. The club is full of pants, and they let you put them on. And all you fellas, leave your pants at home the club is full of pants and they let you put them on and all your fellas leave your pants with your friends because it's 11 30 and the club lets you borrow pants i've had it stuck in my head for two days it's so good
Starting point is 01:19:40 jamie where can people find you and follow you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying you can follow me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help or Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar listen to the Bechdel cast and I've got two tweets one is from Allison Balsam at Fool in the Lotus
Starting point is 01:20:01 if a mummy was chasing me I wouldn't care I would lock my door what's he gonna do the door is locked nice try lmao made me laugh a lot uh and then there was this is like a piece of a larger story that like i saw was trending and i'm like i don't have the the wherewithal to read this entire val kilmer feature but they tweeted out a little piece of it nyc magazine did and it's just a picture you have to see the picture but it says this is the two foot tall batman figurine with the head of mark twain that lives in val kilmer's office and the picture really delivers like it's it's a tweet worth checking out uh not not to endorse nyte
Starting point is 01:20:47 mag or anything but val kilmer sure does have this action figure in his house it's wild all right miles uh where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying you can find me follow me twitter instagram playstation network at miles of gray uh also my other podcast for 20 day fiance if you get down with 90 day fiance check that show out uh let's see some or if you don't or if you don't yeah either way i mean honestly it's a good time sophie and i can talk for hours actually about absolutely nothing uh it seems uh so a couple tweets i like uh first one is from matt gertz so there was an nypd news alert on Thursday because saying that, you know, JetBlue is doing like a salute to first responders by doing like a flyover, like it's called the
Starting point is 01:21:33 nonstop gratitude flyover flying around New York City. And I think most people can begin to connect the dots of where this tweet might be going because they're saying tonight at 7 p.m., three JetBlue aircrafts will conduct a flyover over Manhattan, Queens and the Bronx to salute the dots of where this tweet might be going. Cause they're saying tonight at 7. PM three jet blue aircrafts will conduct a flyover over Manhattan Queens in the Bronx to salute the first responders. Matt Gerdes tweet is, ah, yes. The thing New Yorkers love to see low flying airliners.
Starting point is 01:21:54 What a nice gesture. Uh, what the fuck? Yeah. I mean, it's like really odd. Like every New Yorker was like, what they're like jets jets are one thing,
Starting point is 01:22:03 but commercial aircraft flying low altitude. Such little thought. Yeah. Hey, JetBlue, though, salute them. Another one is from atcageyam4s. It says, I unfollow back, bitch. You ain't no celebrity. I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:22:19 It's just funny. And also, where is the last one? Oh, okay. This is from Auntie Haoni. It says, at 1-800-HAONI. It's always, what you doing, or W-Y-D, and never, I painted an 80-inch Renaissance portrait of you. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Cullen Crawford tweeted, the name's fabrics joanne fabrics and uh rishikesh irway the host of song exploder tweeted the best part of quarantine is getting to hear your partner switch to business voice which is pretty funny um and finally mike scullins tweeted uh i want to go to the movie so bad i would watch one of those regal cinema student films about buying coke uh which is such a specific those pre-roll like film things yeah or it's like yeah you know how to use a fog machine and yeah uh frame a shot um that those things are like a one minute advertisement against film school because it's just like yeah oh yeah the la times in la it would be an la times one or it's like the newspaper that like in the city that that tells you how it's really made and it would be one of a couple things there was
Starting point is 01:23:42 like this bit where this guy shows up on set and he's like a PA and he gets to like the key PA or whatever and the guy's like yeah I need you to get me a couple c47s uh wrench for that and a spinner and like whatever and like the guy comes back he's like oh where'd I get this where'd I get that and he he has everything except for the spinner and he's nervous and he comes back he's like here's this he's like but I don't have this spinner and he pulls out like one of those plastic coffee spoons and he's like spinner and then like it's supposed to be like this lingo thing but the joke is that he just needs something to mix his cream with his coffee another one was like a foley artist one where they're like they just showed you like they were wrapping celery and like a chamois and like hitting it against a punching bag and they're like and that's how a
Starting point is 01:24:21 punch sound is made and i was it it was weird it demystified how sounds are made it almost kind of made me angry like because i was a kid i'm like what the fuck like they're not actually punching somebody all that shit yeah like it's not recorded live in the movie like they're that okay whatever uh you can find me at jack underscore o'brien on twitter you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link
Starting point is 01:24:53 off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on Miles. What's that going to be today? Look, it's Friday. It's time to get your hips loose. It's time to get your body swiveling. Look, if you're lonely, seduce yourself in the mirror to this song. Because if this track doesn't get your body moving like a snake, I don't know what will. This track is called Girl, but it's spelled with three U's and it's by Lappa Lux.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And it's very sensual. And then that beat's going to drop and you will start body rolling in front of your mirror. I can't, I cannot, you know, I'm not responsible for what happens after that. But if, again, let this song take over you, get free to this track, Girl, by Lappalooks. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.
Starting point is 01:25:36 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning. Right into the weekend on that song. And we'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. We'll talk to you then. Bye.
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