The Daily Zeitgeist - Fire Fauci? No Sports Until 2021? 4.14.20

Episode Date: April 14, 2020

In episode 608, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Zahra Noorbakhsh to discuss Dr. Fauci's future with the Trump administration, Trump coming up with his own D-team task force, vote-by-mail, the ne...w Tiger King episode, Joe Exotic's music blowing up in Europe, how experts think we will be able to restart America, how the movie Jaws parallels our pandemic, and more!FOOTNOTES: MELTING GLACIERS AND THAWING PERMAFROST COULD RELEASE ANCIENT VIRUSES LOCKED AWAY FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS See how coronavirus restrictions and rain have improved air quality April showers break records in L.A. County, with more rain and snow on the way Our Growing Food Demands Will Lead to More Corona-like Viruses Climate change and human health - risks and responses. What Dr. Fauci has coming 'I will decide when to re-open the country - soon': Donald Trump announces 'task-force' to make crucial call that includes Ivanka, Jared, White House aides AND Governors Cuomo and Whitmer New salvo in expanding political fight over vote-by-mail as Wisconsin results come in TEXAS TO EASE CORONAVIRUS LOCKDOWN UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER TO 'RESTORE LIVELIHOODS,' GOVERNOR SAYS Joel McHale’s ‘Tiger King’ Aftershow Mauled by Viewers: “One of the Cheapest Pieces of Television I’ve Seen” JOE EXOTIC SPOTIFY MUSIC ON THE RISE ... Especially in Denmark!!! Restarting America Means People Will Die. So When Do We Do It The Pandemic Movie of Our Time Isn’t Contagion. It’s Jaws. How coronavirus advice from Boris Johnson has changed Boris Johnson's hero is the mayor who kept the beaches open in Jaws. That's fine by me We Are Watching the Probable Demise of Trump’s Reelection in Real Time Column: ‘You knew and now my boy is dead.’ Trump is as craven as the mayor in ‘Jaws’ Florida judge strikes down lawsuit concerning safety at the beaches during COVID-19 WATCH: Roberta Flack - Gone Away Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:12 apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 129 episode 2 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers fuck fox news and you know what fuck donald trump i'm gonna come out right now and say it i think he's doing a bad job uh it's tuesday april 15th 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka oh don't you dare touch that and keep away from me i said you're gonna, ooh, social distance with me. That was courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi, man. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I heard about a virus coming round. It's going to lock up all our asses down. And when it happens, when it happens, I'll be smoking blunts. So daily zeitgeist, daily zeitgeist. Boom, boom, boom. All this running around. I could keep going. That's Tame Impala.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Let it happen. Thank you to Bowling for Queso at Bowling for Q for that Tame Impala-inspired AK, one of my favorite bands. So thank you for that. Yeah, yup. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant
Starting point is 00:04:02 Zara Norbarsh. Hey, what's up? What's up? I'm talking to you from my bed. Are you in bed? There's a Winnebago just went by. Yeah, there you go. Are you you're on? Are you? You are broadcasting from bed from bed. Fantastic. How is your posture so good? Are you leaned against the wall? The screen screen makes it so that you just see the front half and not my hunched back. Oh, got it, got it. Impressive Zoom background today. How would you describe your Zoom background?
Starting point is 00:04:37 Like an Ellen DeGeneres birthday card? It says, happy birthday, Irene. It's for my friend Irene, too. What's up? Happy birthday. And Dory. Yeah, it's for my friend irene too what's up happy birthday and uh dory yeah it's a dory it's got ellen's face it's a dory uh themed background with unofficial pixar art uh the pixar art is not uh it's not actually dory from pixar it's more of a seventh graders interpretation. Here's what I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:05:08 How do you know it's unofficial? Because I watch so much Pixar shit. Because it looks like something from a 70s science book. The way the animals are painted. How do you know it's not an official? That's true. It could be
Starting point is 00:05:24 concept art. Pixar wouldn't put that shit out. Hey, it could be concept art, Jack. We don't know. These could be early storyboards. That's true. That's true. But yeah, that's a good point. That's a very good point.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And I apologize for being presumptuous about your background. I'm just impressed. Green screen. Miles is rocking the Simpsons couch in his background. Yeah. Loving these green screen miles is rocking the uh the simpsons couch in his background uh yeah loving these green screen i'm re-watching so much simpsons like it's unbelievable like i'm really going i'm trying to recreate the tv block that would happen in la like after school that i would watch where it's like simpsons married with children king of the hill malcolm in the Middle, News, MASH, whatever. But The Simpsons have really come through in a big way.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Oh, that just brought back so much nostalgia for me. Right? MASH was when you knew it was time to turn it off. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Uh-huh. Yeah, no, this seems entertaining for sure. Yeah, no, this seems entertaining for sure.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Was Conan ever on after school, or did my friend just videotape it? And I totally... I assumed that we were watching reruns, but I think it was actually he was videotaping what had been on the night before. Shout out to Brian Basta. Good man. We watched a lot of Conan together. Early days. First season Conan was so good. Like back when they still had Pimp Bot?
Starting point is 00:06:49 Oh, yeah. Back when, yeah, it was like real early days. Some of the really wild shit wasn't even landing with the audience. Right. People were like, wait, what the fuck? You're talking about Conan O'Brien, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, early Conan.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Yeah, sorry, not Conan with the sword and Xena. Of the Xena, the Warrior Princess universe. Conan with the jokes. Azara, how are you doing? How are you quarantining? Okay, so I had two COVID scares. Have you guys had those where you get like allergies and you're like is this it oh no i've tried to be very like careful the second i don't know i when we were on tour that
Starting point is 00:07:32 was when i felt the most vulnerable because there was a while where we were on like eight planes in the matter of like yeah yeah um like right towards the end of febru And right after that, I was very much like any little thing I thought may have been illness. But no, I try not to freak myself out because I'm pretty good at doing that myself. But then what about like your grocery shopping? You're out and about like getting supplies at times. I assume the expert advice that's been given out will keep me safe.
Starting point is 00:08:04 So I try not to think too many permutations past what that expert advice is. Sucker. Sucker. Am I right, Zara? Yeah, right. My expert advice comes from- Believe in what the scientists say. Not the scientists, the president and his tweets-
Starting point is 00:08:21 That's right. About what I need to stock up on. That's what you do, you idiot. Yeah. You dumb dumb. I actually had a minor COVID scare over the weekend where I couldn't smell. Actually, I'm not going to bring this up
Starting point is 00:08:37 because people don't want to hear about my son's dirty diapers. So I'm not going to bring that up. No matter how deeply I inhaled, no matter how deeply I inhaled, there was no sign of scent. But people don't want to hear about that. I'm just saying that the fact that like the fact that something as subjective as the sense of smell and taste is one of the symptoms is really like really a mind fuck because you can be really uh thrown off by that it's funny though that you say your kid's diaper thing because now that you say is all right i did early on when i was just very narrowly being like okay if you can't smell then you've got like i free i was like smelling my own armpit so deeply to try and be like there's no way there's no way this is odorless
Starting point is 00:09:27 there's no way i smell this good yeah and i'm like using like her majesty as like a fucking control group i'm like you come here and you smell this now what do you know okay now let me smell your armpit like it's a weird like prisoner's dilemma where like everybody like the people you're quarantined with you're having to like work off of them and it's all like relative like ability to smell terrible smells is like okay you also i feel like maybe that's not the one that we need to use to scientifically diagnose ourselves you reminded me how i'm actually doing uh because my husband is at home he's in medical school but he's in his fourth year and they're all at home studying and uh so my stand-up is ruined all i have are fart jokes
Starting point is 00:10:12 that's it that's my whole audience let me see if i got it let me see if i got it he's had me practice this like i don't know 17 times a day. Okay. Let her rip. Let her rip. I mean, that's good. Diapers, diapers, diapers. That's his favorite. That's his favorite. You're dialing in your whole new brand now. I'm really curious to see what people's new comedy brands are coming out of this.
Starting point is 00:10:38 My new album is going to be different. Let her rip. It's just going to be called let her rip. Yeah, let her rip. Can she please rip? That's the next option. Permission to rip. Permission to rip.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Can you let a woman rip? That's weird. No, let's not do that last one. Thank you. Yet she still ripped yes yes all right zara we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today uh we're gonna check in real quick i've watched half of tiger king and i the new episode of tiger king that is not
Starting point is 00:11:23 really an episode of Tiger King. We're going to talk about Bernie endorsing Biden. We're going to talk about just the complete clusterfuck that is the Trump administration and the GOP's response to coronavirus. We're going to talk about Quarchella. We're going to talk about Joe Exotic just straight up crushing it in Europe. Disney deciding that it's time for more Robin Hood. We need more Robin Hood in this world. And Jaws, of course, being the movie of the moment.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yes. First, Zara, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are or where we are as a people. I was just looking at Khan. Khan, oh, from Star Trek. Yes. Wow, why did you,
Starting point is 00:12:14 was this part of your fart bit or? You just fart and you go Khan. It's a great way to cover it up. Oh, right. Huge distraction, yeah. Scream Khan over your fart. it's a great way to cover it up yeah oh right huge distraction yeah scream way to step on my punch line that was my chance to let her rip and yell are you are you trekking i'm i am kind of a Trekkie. I'm also directing quarantine movies with my students. Well, because I have a bunch of solo performance students who at the Hollywood Fringe got moved to October. And meanwhile, we got to rehearse and try stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:00 So we've been doing it all to camera. And we were like, oh, we should just like do this for ig tv now uh and we're mimicking like scenes from famous films for one of my students uh bushra bernie she's got her show coming out in october now uh and there's gonna be a great con scene it's gonna be to be red. Nice. That sounds incredible. What is something you think is underrated? Tim Allen. Sorry, is that obvious? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I think so. Tim Allen is underrated? I'm sorry. Maybe I was in a child care coma over the weekend, so sometimes I just miss what is happening in the culture. I was on a diaper sniffing bender over the weekend I was on that that's right what why is Tim Allen underrated right now okay I've been watching so many Christmas movies because you know it doesn't matter what time it is because it's just always your house uh and I went on like a Christmas just always your
Starting point is 00:14:04 house is my favorite description of it. It doesn't matter what it is because it's always your house. Yep. Facts. Go on. I'm sorry. It's just where we are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Yeah. I've been watching so many Tim Allen movies. Man, okay, he's got some pretty bad lines sometimes, and he does a good job. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I mean- He's always committed.
Starting point is 00:14:27 He's got that cocaine charisma, you know, that just like, he can nail even the botched lines. I was watching the Santa Claus again, and my goodness. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's like,
Starting point is 00:14:40 in one of the opening scenes, the boss is like encouraging drunk driving, kind of. And then there's like, this white of the opening scenes, the boss is like encouraging drunk driving, kind of. And then there's like, this white man is like interrupting a woman of color to like take all credit for the work that's been done. I was like. Yeah, that's right. I'm like, this tracks, I guess. But yeah, Tim Allen has that thing like back then, they're like, this guy just can't miss, man.
Starting point is 00:15:03 He's fucking grunting on home improvement. And people were like, yeah, dude, that's not even a line. But that's fucking. Letter rip. Yeah, exactly. I'm finding my audience. I'm finding them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:15 He has big letter rip energy. Cocaine charisma. That's my new favorite noun phrase. I have way less Tim Allen in my life, and I'm going to remedy that. I'm going to work on getting more Tim Allen in my life. Let's all do that. Catch up with you guys. Yeah, do that,
Starting point is 00:15:33 and then cause a violent emotional mental car crash by loading up his latest stand-up and juxtapose the two. And then you can be like, all right, this fucking- Last man standing. Because everybody else isn't a real man. Wasn't he? He was going to do that like
Starting point is 00:15:50 fuck your feelings snowflakes tour with Adam Carolla, wasn't he? Or did they already do that? That's the name of a tour? It was basically like old washed white comedians who like don't know how to do material other than being toxic and mean as humor quote-unquote and like pushing back against like this new world so they're just gonna go out and
Starting point is 00:16:11 be like nah dude do you ever have moments where you're like damn my social media is highly curated for me you don't see any of this you know oh yeah I get off on looking at every corner of the internet so I'm always like y'all there are really people seriously like yeah man this shit is necessary I'm like oh boy people who haven't moved past the bridge
Starting point is 00:16:38 I check drudge more than I check like CNN it's really more morbid curiosity than anything Zara what is something you think is overrated pandemics CNN, it's more morbid curiosity than anything. Zara, what is something you think is overrated? Pandemics. Oh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Get over it, snowflakes. Enough with all this panic. Yep. Fuck your feelings, man. Fuck your feelings. This new brand of yours is great. I'm loving it. I mean, I'm surprised there is. A little.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Is there more of a call for the greatest generation, like what remains of it, for them to go back out there and work? You know, if they really are the greatest generation, wouldn't they be the ones to put their lives on the line for this American economy? Wait, which generation is that? I thought that's their parents. The parents of boomers.
Starting point is 00:17:21 The boomers' parents. The boomers' parents is the greatest generation. Yeah, like the World War II depression survivors. 90s and up. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Anyway, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:31 According to them, but I mean, I have to say it's got to be the boomers. I mean, they invented all the cool stuff. Well, here's why pandemics are overrated. Because I've been reading that a lot of this talk about the pandemics is like something that we actually have to get used to on a regular basis. Because part of the reason why COVID got so bad is climate change. The climate crisis. Oh, really? Yes, because of the rapid disappearance of species.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Oh, wow. Yeah, and because we've lost somewhere around, I think, more than 250 million species in the last four years. Yeah, and also the biomass decrease is also horribly alarming. Wait, how did the dying off of species lead to the pandemic? I don't know the exact science behind this, but I know that there's a relationship between viruses that animals pick up before it gets to us at all. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That resolve themselves. Like slows it down? Yes, and something like that. And because of the rapid decline of species, we don't have that protection anymore. Oh, wow. I think the other thing, too, even to like it, especially when you compare what we're looking at with climate change like that's the other scientific thing people are doing a really good job at pretending isn't a thing and our
Starting point is 00:18:55 solutions to that aren't just shelter in place either and it's like that's what's really the dark yeah even darker lining to this it's like okay so we're barely getting our shit together bare like not even getting our shit barely scraping by with coronavirus what are we what does that mean for the climate change conversation when we can we sort this out are we ready to talk about that like that's a thing that could also wipe out most of the earth yeah exactly i mean we could have been doing shelter in place to reverse climate crisis because that's been working actually right yeah and as you guys may know uh from my other appearances on your show i am a huge fan of secular catastrophes aka any catastrophe that's not muslim right and the disappearance of antarctica is one that I've been following for a really long time.
Starting point is 00:19:51 And now the soil underneath all of the ice in Antarctica is actually thawing. Yes. Yeah. And with it are also thawing prehistoric viruses that never died. New bacteria. Yes. Literally just keeping it on ice, bro. Just keep that on ice for a few million years. Look at how excited my face is for this particular catastrophe.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I've never seen someone feign a smile as good as you right there, Zara. All right, now's the time when you tell us a myth and you explain that everything you just said was a myth, hopefully. We're going to die horribly pretty soon. They keep telling us that it's impossible to reverse climate crisis, climate change, that LA is fucked, too bad. There's no way that we're going to ever be able to make this work. But then in the last three weeks,
Starting point is 00:20:41 because of the lack of cars on the road the film over la has disappeared it's gone yeah and part of the reason part of the reason why we have so much rain is actually because that smog cloud is lifted and so the rain clouds can actually make their way up the mountain. Oh, is that true? I didn't realize that. The rain is nice. It's a nice change of pace. But it's just so funny cyclically, right? More cars means more smog, which means more carbon, which means less rain, which means more fire,
Starting point is 00:21:16 which means more carbon. And then you eliminate that even pollution aspect of it, and it's giving us a bump in like moisture that's all you know and it's yeah we have we literally have like two weeks extra rain because we're driving this much less and when i was in high school i remember the way that they talked about the like pollution in la it was just like good luck solving that right right yeah that's true i yeah i remember that that uh air pollution and even the hole in the ozone layers were kind of portrayed as irreversible problems and then once you know once the hole in the ozone layer started
Starting point is 00:21:59 going in the other direction uh people like stopped covering it as a news story basically we just kind of forgot about it and you know the all it took was three weeks and an economic meltdown right yeah and i feel like you know there there are some ways in which official policy isn't taking into account climate change but i, I agree that we should be kind of covering climate change as something that is more actionable than, you know, I feel like the two messages I get sometimes are we're fucked or you guys are overreacting and there's no,
Starting point is 00:22:40 no problem. Basically there, there's not sort of that inbetween where there's a hopeful message. Yeah, you know, the other thing that's interesting is like in this situation, because before it was always up to us, like, you know, we can't do that to the car industry. We can't do that to gas and oil.
Starting point is 00:22:59 But then now it's not really up to us. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it seems pretty clearly out of our hands, but hopefully... I keep coming up against this thought over, like, even the last three stories we've talked about, that the world is just thoroughly being controlled
Starting point is 00:23:20 by the baby boomer, like, point of view. Like, even with the greatest generation having this mythic ideal about them and like that's the baby boomer generation's parents so it's like we're just dealing with their like daddy issues basically um but also like how they're dealing with climate change and just their inability to like take blame because they're so narcissistic and there's you know in the in the quarantine uh i just read a statistic that 40 something percent of people under the age of 35 it's basically like people who aren't boomers are getting fucked by this economic catastrophe caused by climate change and boomers are still somehow fine even though
Starting point is 00:24:06 you know they're older and should be uh at least as vulnerable as the rest of us when it comes to economic uh like where we are economically they're just somehow cushioned boomer ig is popping right now in the age of the quarantine like i've never seen people is it really i see i see some people's parents uh who i follow on instagram and then other people people i'd like to look at older people's instagram things like i'll go down a wormhole because i there is there is a group i see of sort of older people who are like nearing retirement or whatever, who are truly like taking this as like like every day is like a quarantine pick that they have. Yeah. And it's almost like, right, right.
Starting point is 00:24:54 This is a big fucking laugh. Quarantine o'clock. Yeah. And you're like, no, what about fucking like mass suffering o'clock constantly? Like and let's let's really kind of readjust how we're looking at it. But yeah, I think on some level, there is that blissful ignorance to this whole ordeal for some people.
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Starting point is 00:30:27 who at least represents the truth in the administration uh probably has the most at stake when it comes to uh you know disagreeing with the president and at least uh being willing to put the truth out there and then the president is you know just tied to whatever is best for his ego at any given moment. So there's going to be a clash there. We've seen this play out every time. He doesn't like experts. He doesn't like people with any kind of experiential knowledge that would actually help him or anyone who comparatively knows more than him. Especially when it's something like right now, Trump is clearly
Starting point is 00:31:05 like in this headspace of, oh, fuck, oh, fuck, like the numbers have to look right or I'll go to jail if I'm not reelected kind of energy. And everything is so focused on like what the numbers look like. What's the economy going to look like? What are this? And so when you have the clearly like within the White House, everyone wants to keep him safe. So like before Fauci, right, there was Azar at Health and Human Services, who's a former pharmaceutical, you know, executive who runs HHS. He was even even that guy, the pharma ghoul was telling Trump at the end of January. He's like, hey, man, you got to fucking look into this, dude. Like this is gonna be, this could be bad. He's like, this is really,
Starting point is 00:31:47 we're looking at some really significant losses here if we don't do anything. And that's why Alex, we haven't heard from him ever since because apparently Pence, Kushner, everyone's like, shut the fuck up. Don't fucking say real shit to him. Or he's gonna get all fucking mad. That's why he's fallen.
Starting point is 00:32:03 That's why azar completely vanished from being head of hhs to like we're like okay so there's this contempt of like don't upset pappy with facts because he can't handle it so just let him make decisions based on non-knowledge that are gonna have real world effects i don't know how they think that's a sustainable like sort of model to manage this all. I mean, I don't think that they're meant to. I think that Trump is here to chapter 11, the United States. Yeah, he's well, he's doing a great job.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I mean, that is, yeah, in a way that is his MO like in life. So makes sense. Wherever he goes, bankruptcy. Yeah, absolutely. He, everything he touches turns to shit his mo like in life so makes sense wherever he goes bankruptcy yeah absolutely he every everything he touches turns to shit except for his own reputation which he manages to just kind of push his way through by lying and it's but that's within his own head yeah well but it but it works i mean it's worked for for a long time because he knows how to he's very successful at manipulating people but nobody comes
Starting point is 00:33:06 away from him unscathed and by electing him president we let the we invited the vampire into the house essentially and i don't he's not gonna leave office without a huge fight that is gonna challenge every norm that we have to your point miles, Miles, I think there's more and more reporting coming out on the Trump administration, like what was going on inside the Trump administration during these crucial weeks where they weren't social isolating or recommending social isolating. There was a New York Times in-depth article on Sunday that went into detail about, you know, people like Fauci who are like pushing. And so I'm assuming that's why he feels comfortable now coming out and being like, yeah, so obviously this guy is fucking up. But it's I don't know. On the one hand, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:02 we're correcting the record and it's going to be known. It's going to like, people are going to know who fucked up. But on the other hand, from a practical perspective, it's, you know, there,
Starting point is 00:34:14 there are still lives to be saved. And in fact, this might be the most crucial time, uh, for, for the saving of lives. Uh, Trump is meanwhile,
Starting point is 00:34:24 uh, while he's retweeting things about firing foushee he is being selfish about getting credit for the decision to reopen the country which i i don't see how this doesn't fuck him i'm sure there's some way i'm not thinking of what do you mean selfish like he's like it's my idea it's my decision yeah it's my decision it's my decision alone and it's an incredibly you know that there's it's a no-win decision and it's one that like when he first suggested the easter thing kellyanne conway was like you can't say shit like that because every death after easter if you go forward with, you will own every death that happens after Easter from a political standpoint.
Starting point is 00:35:07 But it just seems like he is. Oh, damn, I wondered. Yeah, but it just seems like he is too, like, you know, short-sightedly egotistical. And there were a bunch of articles about how governors were going to have to make their own decisions on a state-by-state basis. And he was like, no, it's my decision. I'm going to bring in my task force, which is Javanka. He's
Starting point is 00:35:32 now openly saying, my children are going to be part of the task force. And he's going to consult a couple other people and then make the decision on when to reopen the government. But it is an incredibly difficult decision that probably should be made by governors, but he, being an egotistical dictator, at least in aspiration, he wants to be the guy who makes the big decision. It's just kind of a no-win situation that probably can't be good for him politically if we're assuming that we still live in a democracy which you know who knows if we do based on we don't yeah how easy it's going to be for him to
Starting point is 00:36:19 manipulate things and declare martial law and kill the post office and decline to let people vote over mail. The post office is like the last, that's a barometer for me. Yeah. That's a big one. I think that's gonna, I think people are going to be pissed if they lose the post office. That's a,
Starting point is 00:36:38 that's like, and also like how readily they're willing to dismantle everything so quickly without any thought given to it is like that's also just like oh that's we're truly in like the darkest timeline at that point when we're like yeah no don't need the post office just get rid of that
Starting point is 00:36:56 thing. Emergency. Privatize everything. What was that word you said? Destabilization Zara? Yes. That's right. Chapter 11 the United States. Yeah. That's right. Chapter 11, the United States. Yeah. That's right. So anyways, I mean, that's a big conversation that's being had on both sides about Wisconsin
Starting point is 00:37:12 pushed through and had their primary despite the fact that experts were saying this is wildly irresponsible and we should just find a way to let people only vote over mail because going out to the polls right now is deadly. They still had it. And there's these Fox News articles where they're both sides in it. They're like, on the one hand, people think it's deadly. On the other hand, voting by mail opens things up to massive voter fraud, which, again, is a made-up problem made up
Starting point is 00:37:47 problem that uh you know they continue to insist is a real issue because it's the only way for them to suppress the vote well i think for them it's like oh and also voter fraud on our side could become a massive problem right they're like predicting how they what they would do because that's typically the concerns they raise is that they already it's like having like a burglar do your home security assessment or like yeah i'd probably get in through there or i could i could unlock that no so you want to lock that up yeah it's good you asked me about this because there could be massive voter fraud honestly also what are we gonna do with voter fraud do you know what i mean like at this point the things we're asking for are like voter fraud so that we have income to put back into the economy and have health care
Starting point is 00:38:35 so we don't die and also you know create more crises for public health yeah, that sounds about right. That sound you just made sums it all up. That is, I think that is the sound. It's my cocaine charisma, Jack. Cocaine charisma. My broadcasting to you live from my bed.
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Starting point is 00:43:23 about some bullshit, such as Tiger King and I. The Tiger King and I. Is that what that episode was called? Yeah. It should have just been released as an individual stand-alone special, Zoom special. I can't imagine the filmmakers of the documentary uh are are thrilled that
Starting point is 00:43:48 they're now like they released this thing as though it were another episode of the documentary and it's just basically it's like a weird mixture of a reunion episode of a real housewives show uh except they're not all in the same place so much less dynamic and also it's a series where the people are a mixture of haunted ghosts and horrifying monsters and they're all a little bit complicit in animal cruelty but uh otherwise it's just like dish baby what do you think about joe isn't he a bitch i got through maybe the halfway through jeff lowe's so that was only the second interview segment when i was like this is not helping like this isn't it's weird the tone is so weird especially when like joel mckay was cracking jokes as like the one zookeeper is like half
Starting point is 00:44:41 lamenting the fact that like he was like helping like trick the tigers so they could be euthanized and shit and you're like okay he's like but those tigers were sick right and the guy was like you'd hope so but nah nah man yeah that's when you're like hold on okay you know for all the goofy character shit that's interesting about this documentary it's like there's also the all the dark animal cruelty shit that really goes along with it also like and when you see that dude the zookeeper kind of like go through his mind of how he's like the tigers trusted me and were it not for their trust that they had in me i couldn't get them in a position to be tranquilized to be later just summarily executed i mean we saw him go through that while like drinking himself to uh unconsciousness during
Starting point is 00:45:33 the episode and that was far more powerful than uh anything you know the that you see in this it's just basically a check-in that reconfirms everything you already know about from the series. I really would have rather had Nicole Byer. Oh, for sure. It was weird. So the reason Joel McHale, when somebody first sent, I think Super Producer Anna Hosnier texted the thread and was like, so it's Joel McHale hosting, interviewing people. And I was like, oh, that must be a a typo
Starting point is 00:46:05 because that doesn't make any sense like the guy from the soup that like which is specifically a show that like was i i enjoyed the hell out of the soup but like the tone of that show is like look at these dummies uh not really interacting with the the subjects of the of the comedy in a in a way that was empathetic at all uh but it makes sense when you realize that community just dropped on netflix and they're pushing that hard and he's the star of community um so it's basically he they they wanted to showcase that like somehow transition the success of tiger king into like a streaming a community binge watch which is like such a fucking stretch man hey can we get some cross promo with a tiger king and a community real quick you can like see the meeting where it's
Starting point is 00:46:58 happening it's so it's the it's definitely the most kind of transparently network-y thing that I've ever seen Netflix do. There's even a part where Joel McHale shoehorns in a reference to Ken Jeong that doesn't make any sense. He says that the guy who got his arm chewed off should be played by Ken Jeong. Then he's like, I mean, he would need a lot of makeup because he's old. It's just like, no, that doesn't make
Starting point is 00:47:34 any sense. Shut up, Joel McHale. He did have a show like that weird soup reboot they attempted on Netflix that only went maybe 20 episodes or something. I wonder if he's on call at Netflix. You're like, hey, we got to do a make good with Joel, man.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I'm really curious if a week from now the numbers will show up and it will have worked. Oh, it'll work. Really? You think so? It will work in this very narrow instance that people want more Tiger King and people will watch it to get more Tiger King. But it won't work in a long term sense of this does damage to the Netflix brand because it's such a weird, you know, like there's no there's no traceable way that they'll be able to be like, well, now people think of us in a slightly diminished way, but it's a bad look for them, I think. The ranch is a bad look for them.
Starting point is 00:48:34 You know what I mean? The ranch is also a bad look for them. This feels like it's on the level of the ranch. But that's where Netflix is. They're going to be like, what are you going to do? Go to another streaming platform? Ha! Right. Damn it. but that's where Netflix is. They're gonna be like, what are you going to do? Go to another streaming platform. Ha. Right.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Damn it. I think the big mistake they made was like releasing it as an episode of the show. Like if they had just been like, here's a dumb one-off special where like Joel McHale interviews some people like not a lot of people would have watched it probably, but it would have been honest. But the fact that they released it as an episode,
Starting point is 00:49:02 the big thing that i learned from the episode is that uh joel mckale's hair is not human hair i don't know if you guys noticed that uh he i've seen this once before on nicholas cage's head when i was in college and interviewed him for the school newspaper but it's like when there's not uh you know an entire you know hundreds of people uh sized crew working on making the person look really good uh you can kind of see that the hair is like stapled in there a little bit or uh just a little strange you saw like you can you can see like his hairline has like little like uh divots like you would see in a cornfield this is the problem with hd oh man yeah yeah yeah no i i don't begrudge him his ability to like you know there there are when you look back at early seasons of the soup he was he
Starting point is 00:50:03 had a very receding hairline, and now he has a very strong hairline that just looks a little bit like when you see a really old doll and you see where the hair's skipping a little bit. It has the very beginnings of that. So that's fine.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I don't begrudge him that at all. I like how you're being so catty. You're like, look at this man. Yo, look at this man's doll hair real quick. And I don't begrudge him that at all it's just really i like how you're being so catty you're like look at this man yo look at this man's doll hair real quick and i don't begrudge him that with his tired ass looking hair i don't because i'm not i'm not trying to like make fun of anybody for you know superficial things like everybody has their own like vanity stuff and i don't like that's that's fine but the weird thing is that comes through because this is such a rushed bullshit uh production is that he keeps referencing people's hair throughout the whole thing he like
Starting point is 00:50:56 references the first guy he's like and did you just wash your luxury luxurious hair or how many times did you wash your luxurious hair today and he's like uh i don't know man like i haven't and then uh there was another part he asks jeff low if the guy the jet ski guy like if they should have uh like imprisoned his hairdresser and then they're like it's there are these weird things where he keeps shoehorning in his awareness of hair that I feel like if it had gone through another couple rounds of production, people would have been like, it's a little weird that he keeps bringing up hair
Starting point is 00:51:40 and his hair looks fine. It looks real-ish but like if you keep raising it as an issue it's going to become a a thing that people notice I don't know that's where I'm at this is like how Trump keeps saying like rigged the system is rigged
Starting point is 00:51:57 so like we don't know that it is exactly but now we notice some people notice it's rigged in the opposite way like not that it's again he has's rigged in the opposite way like not that it's again he has it rigged but it's almost like yeah i wouldn't have noticed his hair if it were not for him bringing up all the hair on everyone constantly everyone's hair constantly um did you also notice it miles no i was watching on a phone and i was just rolling my eyes at the at the mere existence of this because like what jack said it just had this like bizarro tell-all vibe that like i wasn't
Starting point is 00:52:33 like fine whatever i i i'm i'd rather get to like the heart of more pressing matters in that thing than just sort of like yo what do you guys wait what's it like going to walmart now huh whoa huh your teeth were pretty messed up huh so what's it like being a celebrity and what's it like being a maid like absurdity yeah and he asks people to cast themselves but you know they're all thriving they are i mean i think you still see people like the exploitative nature like the exploitative seams of the documentary show a little bit when you have like the first person they interview is the zookeeper
Starting point is 00:53:12 with the long hair and he's like talking about how he used to have a drinking problem but he doesn't anymore and that's also the weird thing about a reunion episode for this show is like I mean so what now making of a murderer is gonna have a reunion
Starting point is 00:53:28 episode I mean God willing right I mean that was sort of what like season 2 was wasn't it yeah we're gonna have a reunion that's such a bummer Brendan please let him out the other person that is who was
Starting point is 00:53:46 not in the documentary but just crushing it internationally is joe exotic's music career uh because spotify added some of the tracks on march 30th to the platform and they've just seen it get like just go up and up people are consuming not like in a way that it's like it's you know it's the new old town road but it's funny when they look at the analytics like the countries that are really feeling it the highest rate of streaming like given like the you know proportionate to their population is denmark they are seeing tiger right now uh that's all they can see and then it's like followed by like iceland the uk and ireland i think are like also like some of the more interested countries in terms of like volume
Starting point is 00:54:30 per person but obviously the united states has the most like numerical numbers of spins because population uh but the the enthusiasm ranked by state apparently Apparently, North Dakota is listening to Joe Exotic at the highest rate. Then Mississippi, Montana, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Nevada, Hawaii, California, the least. California, the least? Yeah. Good job, California. Come on, California, and get out there.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Because we're out here bumping real music. We're like, it's raining again. Yeah. I know. They're like,'m gonna listen to sour times by portis head also he's not singing any of that music no which people people really uh ended up liking that music more like that ended up being one of the big takeaways was like man joe exotic has a really good voice like For people who... I wasn't really paying attention to it that much,
Starting point is 00:55:26 but yeah, it turns out he wasn't singing any of that. He was softly singing over top of an actual singer who he paid to make those albums. Granted, still showing a degree of narcissistic genius that if he hadn't been arrested for murder, could have one day gotten him elected president but like that's not a thing that a non-narcissist like thinks to do is uh hire a band to play music and let you pretend you're singing it right but that's the same
Starting point is 00:55:57 mentality right like of at a certain level of power and narcissism you start doing the thing where you just like build these monuments to your own bullshit myth it's like self-mythologizing or like you know whether it's kim jong-un like had like 18 holes in one or his dad had like 18 holes in one in a golf game we're like what the why even say that who gives a fuck or just joe exotic being like here's a fake ass song where i can actually sing because that's my brain it's just like the same shit playing out at different levels. He did run for president. Yeah, he did. It's true.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Probably would have been the second worst person to get elected. You think he would have kept the post office? Probably. Probably would have kept the post office up and running. That's how you sell little baby tigers. Ship them around. Just love on these little baby tigers.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Just love on them. So the New York Times Magazine had a panel of experts for an interview on how to restart the world. No way. Yeah. We're there now. Reset. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Time to reset. Control, alt, delete. I think it's more... This whole apocalypse has been more subtle and slow and boring than I think any of the apocalypses we had imagined up to this point. And I think the restarting is going to be more slow, awkward, full of stops and starts
Starting point is 00:57:23 than we're imagining right now. Yeah. They got, you know, a lot of people are curious, you know, like what does normal look like? We were talking about this last week. What the fuck is normal anyway anymore? And like what's the return to that even from like a social distancing standpoint? And a lot of what these experts said they had like you know people in like bioethics or like epidemiologists and uh virologists sort of all talking and they're all
Starting point is 00:57:52 kind of saying the same thing like the only way we get back to what we think is normal or the way we can curb this social like even relax some of the social distancing is we need more testing and we have to rapidly be able to test and we have to do, uh, we need contact tracing. That's way more efficient to get a handle on it. Anyone talking about that shit before this, they're like, is like, it's just full of shit. Like it's just overly optimistic to look at that. And one of the more kind of striking things is they were the, I think the person conducting the interview was sort of mentioning this june date because i think a lot of people were saying like june could maybe be the beginnings of some relaxing of these social distancing guidelines and again they were sort of like not without that testing not without properly like they said you know in the united states especially like we're not even in a
Starting point is 00:58:42 complete lockdown as a country like there's still eight governors who have yet to really make real moves on this. So it's like, I don't know how you can think this is we're really handling it when we're still just allowing other places in the country to keep moving on when other countries who have been going through this have had to lock down entirely. and they said in terms of industries like maybe manufacturing construction would come back first because you can reasonably keep six feet away from somebody and like exercise social distancing there but he said this one expert said if you're talking about concerts gatherings fucking sporting events and shit like that who are saying oh yeah october October 2020, we're good. This one expert is like, I see, quote, I have no idea how they think that's a plausible possibility. I think those things will be the last to return. Realistically, we're talking fall 2021 at the earliest. Wow. Fall 2021.
Starting point is 00:59:38 That's one, okay, that's one expert. Okay, I'm not saying, I don't want to put that heroes are already putting queries out for cyber lectures and uh cyber performances through 2021 right it's because i think yeah when you look at it and our inability to actually test properly like you know in texas the governor thinks they're going to open up real soon because a couple walgreens are going to have testing sites it's like no like we don't we're not even close to the capacity of like an Iceland who has really been able to test anyone. Granted their population is much smaller, but like those are the levels we need to be at to be able to sort of safely say like, oh yeah, it's safe to go out or it's safe to resume these parts of life. Like we're just, I don't know, like we're looking at a lot of data
Starting point is 01:00:26 that we don't have yet. So they're going to keep this going. They're going to get rid of the post office, wait till after the election so that any protesters will just die. All right. Yeah. Now I know what Halloween's going to look like.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Okay, okay, okay. I feel like the blood serum testing like that looks for antibodies, if it turns out that you can't get COVID-19 twice or that your body produces an effective antibody like most other viruses, I think that's going to become a thing. The end of the movie Contagion has a whole section where people, after a bunch of months of social distancing
Starting point is 01:01:07 and again that virus is like way deadlier and kills basically everybody who gets sick with it but they then create a a vaccine for people to get and they then do like a lottery where like by birthday and then like if you have a good which is how they actually did it uh for the vietnam war but people with good birthdays get the vaccine first and so forth and then like once you get the vaccine you get this government issued bracelet that allows you to like go back out in public and i feel like that is the best we could hope for. Oh, my God. Like that it would be that uniform. I think the bad version of that is that like rich people are the only people who can get the blood serum antibody testing to find out if they had it or not and if they have the antibodies.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And then they're the only ones who are able to go out in public because that's what we saw with the testing to find out if you had the disease in the first place right was right can i uh the rich people and nba players can i mail in my ballot now right that's i'll just send it now how about we all just vote right now i'm voting marianne williamson write-in candidate. Yeah, gang. Big orb energy. Bring it on home. Speaking of movies about the coronavirus pandemic, one that kind of keeps coming up that you might not have expected to be
Starting point is 01:02:38 the embodiment of a modern day crisis. I did. I did. I did. I did. I called it. I knew it. It's my favorite movie of all time. Me too.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Oh my God. I didn't know that about you. I didn't know that about you. I didn't know you were Jaws gang. What? Yeah, I saw it. It was like my whole claim to fame. All right, I'm just going to see myself out.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Yeah, see you, Miles. Bye. Up until age eight, it was like my whole thing was how many times I'd seen Jaws. I just drew sharks on everything. It was really a problem for a while. I have a Jaws pillow.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Wow. And I have a Jaws shirt that says paws. That's cute. So anyways, I do want to shout out J.M. McNabb, who writes for the show and uh was on the podcast when we were in toronto when we were still traveling uh yeah and he february 28th i believe compared yeah he compared uh trump's response to the mayor from jaws uh back then and yeah it's it's pretty staggering. There's just a lot of moments from that movie that keep coming up in my mind when Richard Dreyfuss tells the mayor
Starting point is 01:03:51 that he's ignoring a problem until it swims around and comes and bites him on the ass, which is very memorable to me because it was one of the first times I heard someone use the word ass, and I was like, ha-ha. I got fucking rules. And then, you know, the guy who,
Starting point is 01:04:10 or the woman whose son is eaten by a shark, one of the first victims, and slaps Chief Brody and says the line, you knew and now my boy is dead. My boy is dead. and says the line, you knew and now my boy is dead. My boy is dead.
Starting point is 01:04:29 She actually, the actress, passed away from complications due to the coronavirus. Oh my God. Very early on. Oh, that's right. I did see that. And there's a lot of political cartoons where it's like Trump saying,
Starting point is 01:04:43 why aren't you going back in the water? Looking like the mayor from Jaws and stuff. But it's also literally happening. Georgia Governor Brian Kemp announced that he'd reopened the state's beaches like a while ago. I think it was last Thursday. Thursday. This is as the Pentagon was ordering 100,000 body bags
Starting point is 01:05:06 to store the corpses of all the Americans killed by the coronavirus. He was like, let's reopen the beaches. It's getting warm down here. And obviously in Florida, Governor Ron DeSantis refused to issue a statewide closure of beaches. And then just across the entire tragedy that this is kind of how the Trump administration was behaving at first. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:05:30 My love of secular catastrophe has just skyrocketed because you're right. We are getting into summer and people are going to keep the beaches open and it's going to be Jaws IRL, basically. Yeah. With a much less cooler way of dying. Thank God we have Biden as our chief brody. Am I right, guys? High fives.
Starting point is 01:05:51 High fives all around. High fives. Zoom fives. Zoom fives. I always said that I wanted to get eaten by a shark when I was growing up. Wait, what? That's what I wanted to. This is far worse.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Me too. What is this thing about how Boris Johnson in 2006 had this take where he says that the real hero of Jaws is the mayor is the mayor how?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Boris Johnson who started the coronavirus pandemic out being like we're gonna keep a step up her upper lip and get through this together and he wasn't like urging social distancing the way that experts were uh suggesting and he was showing off how uh stoic he was by continuing to shake hands with everyone and brag about it and then ended up in the icu. Back in 2006, he told an audience of people
Starting point is 01:06:45 that the real hero of Jaws is the mayor. He said it as sort of a tongue-in-cheek thing because he leans more libertarian and he thinks any government intervention is bad. And so he was kind of trying to be cute about it. But then when it came time to make a life or death decision uh he actually went the way of the mayor from jaws for a couple days before people were like dude what the fuck are you doing and he almost killed himself um but there's just there's uh memes everywhere
Starting point is 01:07:20 uh the it's probably the probably the most memed movie in association with coronavirus for at least the first month. And I just think Spielberg in general has always had this, like his movies always have, you know, in other movies, the scary thing is the dark,
Starting point is 01:07:42 but in his movies, it's always like the horrifying things happen either in broad daylight, like in Jaws or in E.T., when all the people come in with machine guns and astronaut suits and take over their town during the day. It's literally bright white light in Raiders or in poltergeist during close encounters but uh i think he was like reacting to you know the fact that that is actually how the most horrifying things in our world have happened in modern history. They happen in the concentration camps of World War II
Starting point is 01:08:27 or gulags. They don't come out of the dark. They happen in broad daylight while people are watching. He's on to something, huh? He knows what he's doing. He's on to something, the Spielberg kid. Keep your eye on this kid.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I'm just saying i've been saying it for like i was saying it back in the early 2010s that i thought spielberg's movies were uh pretty good did you guys catch warhorse y'all check out this warhorse guys keep keep your eye on this spielberg huh you know, also, one thing I love about that movie is that the Robert Shaw character... So great. He ends up, like, it's a self-fulfilling endeavor the whole time. He just wants to, like, die in the arms of the shark the whole time.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yeah. There's something, like, very beautiful about, like, the scene where he's eaten and is kind of dragged off with his arms out. Yes. It's almost like he's being lifted away by a dance partner. Oh, yeah. I never thought of it that way.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Yeah. That's beautiful. It's one of my favorite shots of all time. Let her rip. Let her rip. Let her rip let her rip zara it has been such a pleasure having you as always uh where can people find you and follow you you can come to my house i'm here all day okay uh or you can uh find me on twitter at zara comedy z-a-h-r-a Comedy, or on IG at Zara Comedy,
Starting point is 01:10:06 where I will be releasing snippets of my comedy special. Or you can help me actually get my comedy special out by supporting me on Patreon at Zara Comedy. All right. Do it, guys. Do it. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:10:24 The one that I was enjoying is a visual one. It's an image that somebody took. Oh, my God. Somebody took a picture from Echo Park down all the way through to the downtown of L.A. while hiking. And it's this gorgeous shot. And there are dolphins in Echo Park. It's amazing. What do you mean there's dolphins in Echo Park? Yeah, the lake. The lake that's in Echo Park. There's dolphins in Echo Park. It's amazing. What do you mean there's dolphins in Echo Park?
Starting point is 01:10:46 Yeah, the lake. The lake that's in Echo Park. There's dolphins in it now. That's an image. Nature is free! Miles, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:11:01 I like, man, I like my handles on twitter instagram playstation network miles of gray and you can check out my other podcast for 20 day fiance where we discuss the the joy of the show 90 day fiance with sophie alexandra some tweets i like there are a few one is from 60 minutes um because they it's not not often 60 Minutes just slam dunks on people, but they were interviewing Peter Navarro, who we talked about, who is a trade goon who's in charge of like a lot of the – coordinating a lot of the supplies. And he's been failing, but he's always been using excuses like, okay, look, this was like a once in 500 years flood. Like, how are we supposed to know? You know, like, oh, you're gonna, watch,
Starting point is 01:11:47 go back to when you guys were doing the show during the Obama administration, even the Bush administration, and show me something where you guys were talking about pandemics and how we were underprepared. The guy during the interview is adamant that they did. He's like, well, we have.
Starting point is 01:12:00 He's like, we've, this has been a thing experts have been talking about for years. He goes, yeah, well, show me that segment that you did. He goes, okay, well, i guarantee you we did cut to this tweet from 60 minutes where they're like they're they're juxtaposing uh peter navarro denying it uh like when the existence of this coverage and then like three back-to-back segments one going as far back as 2005 with anthony fau 60 Minutes that the United States was not prepared for a pandemic. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:12:33 It's amazing, frustrating, infuriating. You'll feel everything. This video's got it all, guys. Then another one is from Melissa Del Rey at Suavecita. And it says, these are the 5Gs y'all talking about? And it's a photo of a cell phone tower. But like with these, oh, hold on. Sorry, I'm going to have to.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Miles, we can't see. I know. Let me get rid of this virtual B ground. It's with, she says, saying, these are the 5g's you looking for and it's like five like og like cholo gang members on a cell tower it's just like 5g like five gangsters so stupid that's awesome um and then lastly as easter happened over the weekend uh at rall Otis TV tweeted like a screen grab of searching Google. And it says Jesus height. And the answer says about five foot five inches.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And he tweeted, is this your king of kings? Damn. Savage. I mean, how did they know? would they know you know how could they know i don't buy it i think he was like six five 250 oh yeah built like a brick shithouse feel like the rock feel like me what meg guyver tweeted you ever have an idea so dumb you get concerned that the brain that came up with it is the same one responsible for keeping you alive
Starting point is 01:14:07 I do sending me places and then Demi did you eBay tweeted spent a lifetime working on my don't be alarmed neighbor you know I'm just a friendly passerby smile for white people and now I got to walk around with a bandana on my mouth this is bullshit
Starting point is 01:14:23 you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien I got to walk around with a bandana on my mouth. This is bullshit. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today?
Starting point is 01:14:48 I was just in an old R&B soul mood. I was listening to some Roberta Flack, and I want to do Gone Away by Roberta Flack because I forgot in this song I was listening to all the way. The whole synth line for T.I.'s song, What You Know About That, is actually lifted from sort of the last theme bridge out of this Roberta Flack song.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Oh, really? The Roberta Flack version goes so hard. That is such a great... It's like with a full orchestra and brass and her voice, and I'm like, I need this. I was like, no, no, this is gold here. So this is Gone Away by Roberta Flack. Hopefully it will give you some energy in these very low energy times.
Starting point is 01:15:33 All right. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning. We're going to ride out on that, and we'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending we'll talk to you guys then bye bye because i want you back
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