The Daily Zeitgeist - Fox's New Suit, The Yeast Of Us 03.22.23

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

In episode 1446, Jack and guest co-host Jody Avirgan are joined by hosts of the Blocked Party podcast, Stefan Heck & John Cullen to discuss...The new Fox News lawsuit, Ben Affleck's new film 'Air'..., the deadly fungus among us, and much more! 1. Abby Grossberg: Fox News producer files lawsuits against the network, alleging she was coerced into providing misleading Dominion testimony | CNN Business 2. Ben Affleck Screens ‘Air’ for First Time at SXSW – The Hollywood Reporter 3. Candida Auris, a Deadly Fungus, Spread Rapidly During Pandemic, CDC Says - The New York Times LISTEN: Stack The Deck - El Michel's Affair feat. Bobby OrozaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:35 Zeitgeist Day production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. And it's wednesday march 22nd 2023 as of this recording no arrests yet i don't think right jody you got your eyes on the uh the news ticker and i could have told you that i may have told you that yesterday yeah i mean yeah no or i i don't know he's usually such a reliable source yeah anyways my name is jack o'brien aka plumpers i got plumpers milky thick white plumpers plumpers plumpers i got plumpers milky thick white plumpers that is supposed to be thunder by imagine dragons uh i did my best that is courtesy of Fighter of the Nightman
Starting point is 00:02:25 on the Discord. That is an evil song, Thunder by Imagine Dragons, because it is very catchy to the five and six year old mind. And it is just the bitchiest. He's just like, everybody laughed at me,
Starting point is 00:02:43 but now you'll all be crying in the nose bleeds at my concert because i am imagine dragons uh anyways i'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co-host you know him from many a podcast his new podcast with ted and pushkin is good sport it's jody abriga! Thanks for having me back. What percentage of your day is spent coming up with the little songs for the beginning of this show? We have a thriving discord. And they just feed them to you? And they feed
Starting point is 00:03:14 them and I scroll through and look for the ones that I... And you clearly will say yes to basically everything. Anything. Yeah. And I will find out after we hit record whether I know how to sing that song whether it's within my vocal range um not a ton of preparation uh but i i do appreciate it and there's some real geniuses in the discord you also bring up a question of who gets to refer
Starting point is 00:03:38 to themselves as having a quote vocal range that's right uh just if you can hit one note that's a range right that's a range uh well jody we are thrilled to be joined by two very funny comedians who together host the podcast blocked party which uh you're not going to believe this also very funny please welcome to the show john cullen and stephan hey what's up, guys? Hey, guys. Thanks for having us on. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for doing the show, guys. Your show is very funny. You're recently talking about an issue
Starting point is 00:04:16 that I've been noticing more and more recently, which is, you know, you talk a lot about social media and the ways in which social media is getting worse, the ways Google is getting worse. I was told that things were going to get better and it does not seem to be the case with, yeah, Google is pretty much unusable as of late. Google is all, like if you search for anything, it's like three ads and then 50 things created
Starting point is 00:04:48 by an AI bot and it's just impossible to use now. But even Twitter, not even Twitter, especially Twitter. Even Twitter. Yeah, even Twitter. The one owned by Elon Musk even managed to get fucked up. I don't know if you noticed today, but there's a thing going
Starting point is 00:05:04 on where you'll click on a tweet and then it'll say it's been deleted, but it hasn't been deleted. So that's like a new thing. Keep you on your toes. Yeah, it is sort of fun that it is like getting broken in new and exciting ways every single day. So I do sort of appreciate that. For the longest time when Twitter was functional and kind of a big part of my life, I kind of would tell myself actually the best version of twitter would be one in which i write a tweet but no one sees it right just get it out of your system get it out of my system but then not have to deal with any of the fallback and now i think i actually am living that out and i'm living the dream i don't
Starting point is 00:05:40 i don't like no i don't like it elon musk made that possible for you man i don't know what everybody's complaining about well this was my theory like from day one of donald trump when he was that his his team should have created a basically a fake twitter for him and just let him like rage type into a phone and tell him that it was like doing great um but never actually have it yeah into the world that's smart it's like. It's like, I remember hearing a news story a while back where I think it was in Germany, outside like a senior center, they put like a fake bus stop for the Alzheimer's patients so they think they're waiting for the bus.
Starting point is 00:06:12 It'd be the same sort of idea, basically. I think they should have got Trump on the Don Cherry plan, which if you're not a Canadian... We're both Canadians. If you're not a Canadian sports watch're both Canadians, not a Canadian sports watcher. Don Cherry is sort of, he was like a hockey prognosticator for a long time and they let him be on the air well into his senile years.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And then when they first gave him Twitter, the rumor was that he couldn't use Twitter. He couldn't figure it out. He was in his seventies. And the rumor was that he would call a number and the number would go to an intern's voicemail and he would tell the intern what he wanted the intern to tweet. And then the intern would tweet it in all caps because Don Cherry's whole thing was yelling, you know, kind of a Stephen A. Smith type deal.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And yeah, they could have got Trump on that plan. They should have had been a step between him and tweeting. Just a voicemail they can edit out the crazy stuff and uh you know and then deliver it to the masses i think that was the method for a while there minus the editing out of the crazy stuff i think he i don't think he's ever typed anything with his tiny fingers before i think it's all's all him dictating to various people. People who are not familiar with Don Cherry will be shocked to hear
Starting point is 00:07:31 from John's description of him that he ended up getting cancelled and said some pretty awful things on air. Yeah, it's a terrible thing. He said terrible things for like years and it really just took a while until he said one thing in particular that was like quite heinous. It took a while for Hansel Culture to catch up, baby.
Starting point is 00:07:51 He was famous for, and I guess he's still alive. But, and his, I mean, I don't want to like say, go listen to his podcast, but his podcast is truly insane. The intro music, how would you describe it, John? Well, he used to put out these videos every year called Rock'em Sock'em, which was a Rock'em Sock'em hockey, which was a compilation of hockey hits and goals and saves from the
Starting point is 00:08:16 previous year narrated by Don Cherry. And often for some reason, all of the clips in these videos were set to bad techno sounding music. 90s techno. 90s techno. And so that is the opening of his podcast. And it starts with him saying his famous phrase. All right, let's go.
Starting point is 00:08:37 And then the techno music kicks in. And so, yeah, I would describe it as like early 1992 bad techno music with Don Cherry sound clips over. Yeah. And he's like 90 years old now, too. So it like fits even less. Did Don Cherry, is he the origin of the reason why everyone? No. Well, why? And also why everyone says let's go all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I'm fascinated with trying to track down how let's go became the go-to catchphrase that's an interesting theory because he was possible yeah he was saying it like i remember growing up watching him on hockey night in canada every saturday and he would say it a lot uh and that was in like the the mid 90s late 90s so oh yeah even earlier maybe he would do the gun he would do a gun. He'd be like, let's go, and do a finger gun to the camera. So that could be something worth diving into. Oh, I'm
Starting point is 00:09:31 planning to. The extended go? The let's go? It was just a let's go? Let's go. Yeah. A quick let's go. And then Tom Brady, you know, it's like jazz you know tom brady is the coltrane to don cherry's uh davis you know and he comes along and he really
Starting point is 00:09:51 pushes things along and and and reappropriates let's go and then you know but yeah i mean people have been saying let's go in sports contexts for for a long time right it's just the saying it constantly is what has jumped out of sports right and it's just basically a it's i mean it is the default expression of enthusiasm in any context yeah now yeah and it's kind of bizarre to me and i love it i'll say it when i'm when i'm playing soccer in real life or when i'm playing like fifa or like john and i play nhl a lot and like it's very common for us to say that after we score a goal or something. So I'm like 34, like it's not, I don't know. It's not okay. Yeah, no, no, I think, I think it's fine. It's acceptable. We don't have to hate every new trend that comes along. I think that's a fine one.
Starting point is 00:10:41 It doesn't bother me. I think there's a lot of performative, like this new thing that people, everybody's doing all of a sudden. It's like, that's, that's a fine one for me. I'm doing it because of Don Cherry, to be clear. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Okay. It is an homage. Yeah. All right, John, Stefan, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Starting point is 00:10:58 we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we may talk about. There is a new story about a deadly fungus that I am here to tell you. I don't think if I had to guess, and I am not part of the CDC's mycotic diseases branch, but the CDC's mycotic diseases branches on their bullshit again. They're saying this is something we need to be worried about. If I had to guess, I think this is maybe a reaction to The Last of Us and scientists getting excited when people are listening to them. So famous, I would love to be the guy who's like, don't listen to this the day before the apocalypse.
Starting point is 00:11:41 But we'll talk about that. We'll talk about maybe this fox news producers lawsuit against fox news uh the reviews have started trickling in for ben affleck's air um and they are incredibly positive so we'll talk about the same with the flaming hot cheetos origin story uh so we were just this has been a trend on the daily zeitgeist of late, but this new, uh, wave of brand related movies and the idea that brands are to modern American
Starting point is 00:12:14 culture, what royalty was to Shakespearean culture. And like that, this is just what our movies are going to be about from now on. So we'll talk about all of that. Plenty more, but first, John, Stefan, what is something from your search history that is revealing about you? John, you want to kick us off? Sure. Look, you said, Jack, you've been listening to a little bit of Block Party the last few days. And well look i'm a pretty uh white guy and um just uh searched i think probably the most white guy thing i've ever searched uh this happened last week and stefan was
Starting point is 00:12:54 actually present for this uh but i had to google search how to get kombucha out of a laptop uh we were just about to record an episode of Block Party and I spilled about half a can of kombucha on my MacBook Air keyboard. Somehow I knew it was a Mac. Yeah, exactly. No question about it. Kombucha's never been
Starting point is 00:13:17 spilled on a PC. That would have actually been a first in history. You can't Google it. There's no results if you look up kombucha PC spill. But yeah, so I did spill a kombucha on my MacBook and I was Googling how to take care of that. And turns out I took it into the Apple store
Starting point is 00:13:38 and luckily didn't hit the board. So I only... Hey, look at that. I only owe them $480 for it. Okay. That's not bad. Well, the guy at the genius bar would have been like,
Starting point is 00:13:50 well, this is like the most common, this happens like 10 times a day. Yeah. So let me ask kombucha. He just looks you up and down. Let me guess. Um,
Starting point is 00:13:59 the, the, I feel like there's a big portion of LA's population that would have been like, that's actually good for your computer. Good for its gun health. You actually don't need to take it in. You should just let it rock a little bit. It's going to grow some healthy biomes in there.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Yeah. How about you, Stefan? What's something from your search history? Well, this is something... John's going to hear this and be like, of course. And he's going to kind of be mad at me, I think, too. But I'm a big fan of digital card games. So like Hearthstone, I got way too into and still kind of am.
Starting point is 00:14:34 And this is a recent development for me. Recent is in the past four or five days. But I've started playing a game called Marvel Snap. And so my search term is marvel snap beginner decks and have any of you played the game marvel snap no i'm assuming no i mean i'll ask john i know the answer is john have you played marvel and i have a life okay well i don't the thing is i don't like this has taken over my life it's a very fast-paced very addictive digital card game you can play on your phone or on your computer and the games are like two to three minutes long so you can play like you know
Starting point is 00:15:12 one to four of them on the toilet depending on kind of what's going on there um and i'm i'm just like hooked to the point where it's like oh this is like going to be dangerous for me like there's no doubt in my mind it's it's incredibly addictive and you collect a marvel like a an individual card and then like that is yours like i feel like this is backing up into nfts somehow uh just in my brain i feel like it it just barely dodged being somehow connected to nfts but yeah and the thing is like i'm not even like a Marvel guy necessarily. Like I've stopped watching the Marvel movies and like I, so it's not that it's just that the gameplay itself is like so perfectly and like tightly designed to the point where I think John would actually like it
Starting point is 00:15:58 because John's a big board game guy and likes strategy games and things of that nature. So I think there's a chance he would like it, but it's just like such a hard sell to get John past the Marvel stuff. I think. What are you talking about, man? I love,
Starting point is 00:16:11 uh, what, um, Avengers S dot T dot a dot T dot I dot O dot N. I saw that thing that's coming out. Uh, I don't know. I don't want movies,
Starting point is 00:16:22 but I Avengers station. Yeah. But it's, uh, I can't read.'t want movies but i avengers station yeah but it's an acronym uh i can't read what what did you just spell station yeah station okay ad for it i think it's i don't know what station i think that's a local thing in vancouver actually oh is it only oh you're right yeah it's a completely immersive and educational experience that brings visitors into the world of the avengers i'm not gonna of the avengers educational educational in there they probably got like a grant for funding because they had the word i guess it educates you about marvel yeah that's true learn about the entire mcu but what does station stand for s t that's
Starting point is 00:17:00 how much scientific training and tactical Training and Tactical Intelligence Operative Network. Okay, so they have some science in there. Incredible. This is where the minds that used to work for the CIA have gone to write for the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Everybody's talking about STEM. We need our own. What's the acronym for us?
Starting point is 00:17:20 Stefan, where did the Marvel Cinematic Universe lose you? Because I have a pretty specific answer to that. I feel like it was... Was it Guardians of the Galaxy 2? I think... No, I was kind of on and off. But the last one I saw in theaters,
Starting point is 00:17:36 because it was kind of like, well, there's nothing to do this weekend. Let's just go see a movie, was the last Thor movie. And it was to the point where we almost walked out of it because it was just not for us. I mean, it's not aimed at us, maybe necessarily, but it just really pissed me off.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I guess everything about it. That was Love and Thunder? Yes. Yeah. To quote Imagine Dragons? I thought Christian Bale was good in it. Love and Thunder. Love and Thunder. Love and thunder.
Starting point is 00:18:06 See, I do have range, Jody. But Jack, where did it lose you? Like right around the same time with watching the Doctor Strange one from Sam Raimi. Like I was like, oh, this could be cool. Yeah. And it had like cool moments in it but it just i feel like every time i watch one of them it inevitably gravitates back towards a lightning fight like cgi lightning just yeah like that's every portal like if i i think they just need to set an internal rule for
Starting point is 00:18:41 themselves that if a giant like purple lightning portal opens in the sky we have made a mistake and need to like you know go back and rejigger things because yeah yeah it's the beam stuff is just like it's everyone has the same power and then everyone gets hit by the beam and they're just like kind of they're just like singed a little bit they're like fine you know it's like daffy duck uh logic yeah um so yeah i'm not i don't like marvel necessarily but the game itself is like it's incredible like within like a day i was like oh this is like taking over my entire life and it is so all right well let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll do some overrated underrated and maybe get to some news. We'll be right back. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
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Starting point is 00:22:41 And Stephan, let's stick with you. What is something you think is overrated? This is something that I discovered last year but I would say kind of just like regular like soft bath mats are now those are overrated to me now because I was at an Airbnb I went to
Starting point is 00:22:56 TwitchCon in San Diego last year and at the Airbnb they had these bath mats that are like like hard almost like almost like hard like the bamboo ones no it was almost like hard like hard, almost like, almost like hard, like the bamboo ones. No, it was almost like hard, like clay or like stone kind of.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Um, and they were like incredible. It was like, I, I can't go back. John's shaking his head. I mean, I mean,
Starting point is 00:23:17 a forest by any chance were you, sorry, yeah, well, I, I was, I was at like a normal Airbnb and they just had these, these,
Starting point is 00:23:26 we saw the bath mats and, and we're like, this this is interesting and then there's a stone that absorbs water i'm i yeah i've heard about this yeah so so i i i guess going like the the regular bath mat to me is now overrated because of how much i like this stone bath mat did you buy one do you have one yeah of course oh my god you came home from twitchcon and you bought a stone bath mat yeah that's like a normal thing to do how much was it well look let's move on to the next question well my question on that is like shipping what is shipping like that like getting a stone delivered to your house feels like it would be lighter than you would expect and i guess like my my worry was if you step on it in the wrong way, will it crack? Because it does sort of feel that way, but it is actually pretty solid, it seems like.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But it was shipped in a huge box with tons of extra packaging and stuff. Right. Like the box they put the Ark of the Covenant in at the end of Indiana Jones just arrives on your front porch. The box was like legitimately the size of like if you bought like a huge TV. And then the bath mat is just like normal bath mat size. So it was like very strange. But it's very nice. It's just nice to step on it.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It absorbs the water. Stefan, did you buy this $90 one? No, it was less than that. But not much less by the tone of your voice. Okay. Well, and it was also in Canadian dollars. So that's like nothing, right? So yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Anyway, moving on. How about you, John? What's something you think is overrated? So there's been this recent trend in my internet algorithm where I've really cornered the market on instagram and facebook when i check it occasionally where i'm now almost exclusively getting played like inspiring sports videos like it'll just oh josh allen you know uh threw a ball around with this kid or you know who's sick or whatever. And I love that.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I'm a huge sucker for all that kind of stuff. Athletes being nice to kids. Love it. The only problem is I'm now sucked into this sports video vortex where Instagram also thinks I want to see videos of what teams are playing on the Jumbotron during a game. And I've got news for you. Not interested. If I'm not at the game, I don't care who in your crowd looks like the lion from Madagascar.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I don't care that you, ooh, we lit up the visiting team with this little insult or whatever. Wow. I think it's way overrated. I don't need to see a video of the Jumbotron at a sports game. No, thank you. Yeah. That is a really not a transferable unit of entertainment.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And I've written for the Jumbotron. Like I, I worked for the Vancouver Canucks for a while writing for the Jumbotron, which is a very Canadian thing to say, I think. Wait, you wrote jokes or you would come up with bits? Yeah, like more jokes. So I auditioned to be the Canucks in arena host two different times, and I was rejected both times,
Starting point is 00:26:40 which if you know about the state of the Canucks franchise right now, probably a blessing. You dodged a bullet, I think. I think think I dodged a bullet but yeah they they knew I was a comedian so they wanted to start doing some more funny like in-house stuff and one of the main things they were doing which you will see on your Instagram algorithm if these sports jumbotron video shows up is one thing they'll do is they'll try and uh catch uh an opposing fan looking at their phone and then they will imagine like there's a text conversation happening between them and another.
Starting point is 00:27:12 So it'll be like, oh, here's a Flames fan. Let's imagine what the two Flames fans are texting each other and I would write the jokes for the text stuff. So that was kind of like the main thing they had me do. That's actually pretty good. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:27:29 I would enjoy the hell out of that in Arena. In Arena, it's great. Probably not on Instagram. Yeah, exactly. I will say like the in Arena stuff, you obviously have to be there for, but the stuff I do like is who's the Chicago Bulls mascot, Benny the Bull?
Starting point is 00:27:44 Benny the Bull, yeah. I will never get tired of seeing Benny the Bull just dump like is um who's the chicago bulls mascot benny the bull benny yeah i will never get tired of seeing benny the bull just dump uh like a huge plastic bag full of popcorn on someone like that that is funny every single time to me but i don't need the context about is humiliating someone i'm on board of course absolutely that goes without saying yeah but i don't need the kiss cam no i don't know i think some of those are funny and i mean they're clearly staged but some of those some of those are pretty good or the the dance-offs you know with the i mean we have an insider here we have an insider here are some of the kiss cams staged oh almost everything staged yeah i mean no no question about it you think that they are consistently finding couples
Starting point is 00:28:19 where the woman refuses to kiss the guy and gets super upset and then dumps her soda on his head and storms out of the arena you think that's happening like like a few times a week around in arenas around the country or i've been catching very boring kiss cams i guess because i've never seen that happen the new bit they they're doing a lot is like they'll do the they'll show a kiss cam and then a woman and a man will start kissing and then another man shows up yeah and they sort of like uh oh like oh he does it scotty doesn't know you know and it's she what does he do like he's like cheering so hard he doesn't notice his wife is like kissing the guy on the other side or something is that the premise like he's coming back from the bathroom or so so the joke will usually be
Starting point is 00:29:07 that she is kissing like so let's say it's at that Canucks game right kissing a guy in a Canucks Canucks jersey and then her boyfriend or husband will come back wearing a flame jersey yeah yeah this is good stuff elaborate humiliations opposing team i love it that's funny those are real i've got a marvel snap yeah what is uh what's something you think is underrated john yeah sure underrated i'm sticking sort of sports theme algorithmically themed uh skate videos i'm not a i'm not a skateboarder i i used to skateboard to get around a little bit, but not a huge skateboarder. But God, I love a good skate video. Nothing better.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Just pausing on Instagram. Wow. This is a great skate video. I love it. It's harmless most of the time. Just a great way to pass the time. You're a big Tony Hawk pro skater player. Yeah, but that doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I'm just saying I just love to watch a good skate video. I think they're underrated. I think not enough people appreciate how hard skateboarding is and how impressive a lot of these videos are, in my opinion. That video game did ruin skate videos for me for a little bit because I was like this. These people aren't shit compared to what i can do and on n64 i haven't played video games since n64 but um how about you steph and what's something you think is underrated i would say um like goldfish crackers as like a snack for adults um yeah because i i think people think of goldfish crackers and they think oh that's like a that's
Starting point is 00:30:43 like a child snack that's for children for children. And you know what? They would be right. However, they're just a very nice snack to have. Although I do feel like, because I always get like the huge carton of them. And you never feel worse than when you were like elbow deep inside the carton trying to get the goldfish at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I guess you can pour it out into a bowl, but I don't do that. I'm just reaching in. But just the regular flavored... Because there's the goldfish ones where there's no flavor to it, right? Just the saltine flavor almost. I don't know if you've ever purchased those by accident.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Is that the original? I think those are called original, right? They're like blue box, white cracker. Just a disaster. They're more like soup crackers i guess right like you put them in soup but to me original goldfish are like the orange ones and like orange totally right um and they're fantastic as a snack i think i would say underrated i feel like people don't talk about them when they're talking about like best snacks so yeah goldfish crackers for me
Starting point is 00:31:41 yeah they're actually the origin story of goldfish crackers is in development at warner brothers yeah and i think it's gonna be great actually i mean we might as well just like get right into ben affleck's air um because it premiered at south by on saturday ben affleck called the premiere the most important night of my professional life. And the reviews are in. They're literally all positive. Like, it's 100%. There's only nine reviews in, I guess. But the first nine that came in, it's 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I just want to read a description from one of these reviews. I just want to like read a description of like from one of these reviews, uh, Affleck successfully captures Nike's heartwarming and hilarious marketing journey while paying respectful homage to all involved air is a tremendous underdog story filled with lovable characters. Um, it's just like, there's something so strange to me about all of this.
Starting point is 00:32:44 And yet like, it makes perfect sense, but it's also like to be something so strange to me about all of this. And yet like it makes perfect sense. But it's also like to be like the underdog journey of Nike's marketing decision to make Air Jordan shoes. Well, it's one of those movie concepts that feels like, oh, this is like a Funny or Die fake trailer from like 2014. Yeah. But it's real. fake trailer from like 2014 yeah but it's real and like it sort of reminds me because i didn't i'm not surprised it's getting good reviews because it has a really good cast and i'm sure i will watch this movie eventually i don't think i'm going into theaters to see it but um there was that mcdonald's movie the founder yeah and that was a great movie right and i and i think going
Starting point is 00:33:21 into it i was like how is how is this going to be good? And it's because they made the founder of McDonald's into a huge dick. Yeah, just a monster. Yeah. And so I really enjoyed that movie. So I guess this won't be the same sort of style of movie necessarily. But if the McDonald's movie can be good, then I don't see why air can't be good either. It will not be the same style. It turns out it's like, it is the,
Starting point is 00:33:46 it turns Phil Knight and, uh, Sonny Vaccaro, like into these underdogs who like coming up with a marketing concept around the air Jordan shoe, which I totally fell for. I am going to see this movie. I am like,
Starting point is 00:34:01 I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy it, but it's, you know, this is a, an important myth for my life, my childhood. I still wear Jordans. I love Air Jordans. This completely captured me. upsetting to me that this is this is what we've got it it totally makes sense these are the most powerful and influential forces in our civilization they of course we would want to watch movies about them but it's just weird how does it how does it make you feel that like the kind of big first swing at a jordan movie um not a documentary obviously but movie is like this weird kind of sideways angle in at it would you rather have
Starting point is 00:34:53 just had a jordan biopic of sorts no no i would not because i don't like i i think that my first question was like wait who did they get to play michael jordan and they completely like cut around him and uh like i don't i don't know like about the ethics of this and like it but it it seems like the thesis of the movie is like he's just this sort of like god-like entity and they're trying to like move around him and harness. But yeah, like that,
Starting point is 00:35:28 that is one of the things, one of the not uniformly positive things somebody said was just like Jordan gets just one word to say. And when he's present, the film shoots and cuts around him. Um, it's unintentionally hilarious when in one crucial boardroom scene, he hastily turns his head away to study something on a wall before you can
Starting point is 00:35:48 catch a proper glimpse of which it's like, like an Austin powers opening. They have like, you know, a tray of flowers following his face around. But that, I think that's the only way to tell this story. Um,
Starting point is 00:36:04 until like 20, you know, 20, 30 years from now when like nobody remembers what it was like to actually watch Michael Jordan. Yeah. I mean, it is a little strange or I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:36:17 It's, it's something that, you know, it's like, here's a story about a black athlete. One of the first like people to really like gain some agency and build some real capital. And the story they tell about that is about all the schlubby white executives surrounding him. They're the heroes, Jody.
Starting point is 00:36:38 They're the heroes, man. But, you know, I was just scanning headlines about this, and it's like, one after another, the the headlines are all like Ben Affleck talks about why Michael Jordan isn't in the movie. Like, here's why Michael Jordan isn't. I mean, it's just going to be the question around this movie. And Ben Affleck's, I think, very carefully crafted response to it is like Jordan is so recognizable, so steeped in the culture that like to put him in in any way people know who he is and they would like ring hollow or whatever which you know i don't know i i think there's probably other reasons why michael jordan isn't portrayed in the movie necessarily though i guess he was involved um behind the scenes a little bit in sort of at least giving the blessing to the to the film i would be interested to know if if john because john famously does not watch movies yeah um so he I think he watches like one or two movies a year,
Starting point is 00:37:26 maybe. Will this be on the list? Oh, I'm going to the theater, baby. Not before I love the underdog story and a shoe dog. Of course, my favorite book of all time.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And I'm really looking forward to digging in. No, I, I'm sure maybe I, I shouldn't say I'm sure I'll see it. Cause that's never, it does seem like the type of movie you would see though like I mean yeah block party listeners understand that John sees like
Starting point is 00:37:50 no movies but when he does see a movie it's one that you would like never expect so I think a couple months ago we were talking about movies you had seen and you had some I've seen up in the air yeah I don't know I mean maybe I'll see it it's it's very anything with air in the air is a big yeah the air Anything with air is a big...
Starting point is 00:38:06 The air up there. The air up there is a big one for me. Do love that. On air, I also love. And the one thing I thought stuck out when looking at some of the stuff around the show was that quote that you said, Jack, about
Starting point is 00:38:22 Ben Affleck saying it's the most important night of his life. That was the funniest thing to me uh because that to me is like the equivalent of spring training right now and oh he's in the best shape of his life he put a lot of work in this winter he's in the best shape of his life he's just ready to go it's very similar to that it's like this is not the most important night of your life ben i'm sorry to say but there's no way what was the quote because what if what if there was the article like the the twice married ben affleck referred to this as the most special night of the most important night of my professional life everyone okay i would say that was probably when you won the academy award and launched yourself into a yeah yeah that's probably true yeah i don't it's um
Starting point is 00:39:07 it is just i i think one of the the we are going to just be getting these movies now non-stop and it's just the the detail that nike becomes a an underdog uh in this telling. Like, you know, the billionaire founder of Nike becomes an underdog and, like, that's the version we get. Feels like it's not healthy for the overall, like, body politic of our
Starting point is 00:39:37 civilization when, you know, I think movies like The Founder and The Social Network are probably a little bit more important because they show that, like, people, like, behind the scenes of these things that are already celebrated as triumphs are people fucking other people over.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah, it's like correctly showing them as, like, sociopaths. Right. I feel like that's probably not going to happen in this one if Nike signed off on it. Right. No. Yeah. I think that absolutely they're not. The inevitable conclusion of like IP in films is going to be a movie about the like founding of the Marvel Cinematic Universe movie franchise or something like that.
Starting point is 00:40:23 About all the Sony execs or the whatever. Oh, totally. They thought it was dead after Spider-Man 3 and this one man brought it. A flaky underdog story. The movie poster is just going to be his worn baseball cap with a spotlight on it.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And all the scenes are at Bruce Springsteen concerts with a bunch of 50-year-old execs making deals with each other. I mean, I think it is just that's how people view the American dream in general, right? It's even like if you are a nepo baby or or, you know, the whole there was that narrative of, oh, Kendall Jenner is the first self-made billionaire or whatever the hell that that whole thing was a couple of years ago. And it's like, no, none of this is... In a very rare case, it's sort of the true American dream where people come from nothing and they start these multi-billion dollar companies.
Starting point is 00:41:15 But most of the time, there isn't really a true underdog in the situation. But everybody wants to believe that. That's the key sort of piece of the American dream is, Oh, I was down on my luck. I had nothing going on. And it generally leaves out the part where even if you did come from nothing, um, you stepped on as many heads as possible on the way to the top. That's the only way to get there. You know, it always has to be this, Oh, it was just such a lovable person, you know? My dad didn't own an emerald mine.
Starting point is 00:41:48 He just owned several shares in it. Okay, so let's get this straight. I never even saw an emerald growing up. I didn't even know they were green. Yeah. But yeah, CEO biography. There are all these ways that success in, you know, capitalism and the Western world gets laundered from being you know
Starting point is 00:42:08 what i i think it was jody's uh partner malcolm gladwell wrote wrote a uh well pushkin pushkin is yeah um but he he did it like a deep dive into like comparing the CEO biographies and the stories of how people become the richest humans on the planet with the reality. And I bring this up all the time, but I think it's one of the most important kind of details about our, uh, culture that like gets left out is like all of them did like found a thing
Starting point is 00:42:44 they could exploit and exploited it over and over and over again. Like it was just a very boring transactional predatory thing. Like all you become unreasonably wealthy by being like a very successful predator and praying. Perfect chance to transition to the Fox news segment. I'm just saying. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:05 absolutely. Um, but the like so that there is already this whole body of you know like bookstores are filled with these ceo biographies revisionist histories where like everybody told them they couldn't do it and they like came in and like cowboyed their way through the boardroom. And I feel like we should hope for... Because these brand movies are coming, we should hope for versions that are like the founder, which somehow got made and also told a story that was critical of the founder of McDonald's and didn't have to change the name of the company.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Did you read the, did you read the founder? I did not know. Yeah. So I think it's part of it is like the founder is written by Ray Kroc and he kind of says like, yeah, I stole it from the McDonald brothers and I did that.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Like, wow. That's part of the reason why, like it, it's short, it's only like 150 or 200 pages. And he is actually very honest i mean obviously there's some revisionist stuff in there but as far as like a ceo autobiography or memoir goes
Starting point is 00:44:12 it is i found the honest one yeah exactly where he you know i think that's how that one maybe got made was ray crock was pretty honest about like yeah the mcdonald brothers were kind of wimps and so i just like yeah i'm a big psycho yeah it rocks i'm a big psycho McDonald brothers were kind of wimps. And so I just like, yeah, I'm a big psycho. It rocks. I'm a big psycho. They were like kind of nice guys. And that was, you can't succeed in business being a nice guy. So I thought,
Starting point is 00:44:31 you know, why don't I be a psycho and, and take this over? And I cut them out of the deal. No problem. Uh, because yeah, huge wusses and bingo,
Starting point is 00:44:39 bingo. There you go. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk that Fox news story. We'll talk about the deadly strain of fungus that is about to turn you on to zombies. We'll be right back. I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
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Starting point is 00:48:21 what a combo yeah um just filed two lawsuits against the channel alleging that their legal team engaged in wrongful conduct while preparing her for her deposition in the dominion case the case that's being brought against them for saying that the election was stolen and that dominion voting machines were faulty um or at least like helping perpetuate that uh the allegations are that fox's lawyers coached her to avoid mentioning prominent male executives and on-air talent to protect them from any blame while effectively throwing herself under the bus and they pressured her to downplay a text exchange with the senior vice president of weekend news in which he instructed her in regards to a segment with rudy giuliani there will be no fact checking today
Starting point is 00:49:11 um there's just so much good shit coming from the dominion thing like the the yeah the texts from tucker carlson being like trump is a disaster like we all know this this is all such bullshit like everything that we're having to repeat on air is such bullshit and then i love the ones where they're talking they're like making fun of their listeners and viewers where they're like oh boy our viewers sure are a bunch of stupid ignorant hogs that we hate a lot yeah and like i think the way around that is to do just what like me and john do on the podcast is just like say that explicitly at the top of every show that's your thesis just to get it out of the way basically and people seem to respect that more yeah exactly yeah that's how we start every show yeah we're throwing some more slop in the trough yeah there you go i was struck by how much they would couch their decision making
Starting point is 00:50:01 in the context of it's what our viewers expect. Right. And there was that little, there was that week after the election where Fox had, you know, called Arizona and sort of like actually proclaimed that Biden probably are actually one. And they started losing viewers to Newsmax. And it was a story that Fox executives told themselves, but you know, it was like, Oh, our listeners are leaving us and they're going to newsmax and the reason they're going to newsmax is because newsmax is telling them lies about how this election was stolen and so we owe it to our viewers it's like this really weird logic and like almost a cover you know that they're giving themselves uh we owe it to our viewers to embrace these lies because it's and it's kind of like you know i mean obviously there's so many
Starting point is 00:50:44 things that are broken about that logic but he's just describing journalism i think yeah exactly that's just journalism you know but you but that's how you hear politicians talk too right um they say like i can do whatever i want in washington dc and i could stand up on principles then when i go back to uh my constituents all they want to talk about is hunter biden's laptop so i owe it to my constituents you know and it's just this like really messed up um inversion of that like you know in theory which should be a pretty like honorable yeah motivation it's also wildly disingenuous of them to act claim like web news max is pushing is forcing our hand when they've been like tucker carlson's producers listen to the most right wing like talk radio just you know the equivalent of like coast to coast am of like right wing
Starting point is 00:51:31 conspiracy theories and alex jones that that was actually very unfair to coast to coast am i shouldn't i shouldn't have said that but like you know their level of fact checking uh and they listen to that and let that lead like their editorial, you know, agenda is just like whatever the craziest shit is that's resonating with people. And they've been doing that from jump. Well,
Starting point is 00:51:54 yeah. Tucker Carlson talked about like ratings. Most of his texts were not about news. They were about, this is killing our ratings. Yeah. Yeah. You'll see it with like insane,
Starting point is 00:52:04 like QAnon people on twitter where uh they'll say at this like they're so far gone that they'll be like oh newsmax and fox news have gone woke like yeah because because they're not feeding them the exact conspiracy theories they want to hear and it's just like i mean you can never please these people you're gonna have to just go more and more far right uh which i guess is sort of what they're doing anyway but um it's it's just so funny to see people completely straight-faced thinking that because newsmax had to like legally apologize for something that they have now gone woke um it's just like so insane to me to see that yeah and we just got a quote yesterday from i think it was kevin mccarthy that biden is siding with woke wall street um so that's you know the other uh fully woke outlet institution is wall street yeah
Starting point is 00:52:53 yeah the damn stock market's going woke what are they over there that's right you know i mean one of the things that just there's so many things in this revelation which i actually think is like gonna really hurt fox i mean i actually think is like going to really hurt Fox. I mean, I actually think like this is, this might be a turning point moment, um, both financially, but just in the public kind of imagination. The overall lawsuit or the specific revelations in this, uh, uh, suit that she's bringing. Oh, not this specific suit, but the overall thing and kind of like the story that's been yeah yeah the story that's coming out about fox that you know i think most people just kind of knew have known for a long time but nevertheless um it's out there and in a way
Starting point is 00:53:33 that i think is actually seeping through but you know one of the things that also just strikes me and i think about this too with like trump world as well it's like these people spend so much time like putting out fires squabbling with each other like you know doing hush payments like like coaching people and how to talk to lawyers and like dealing with and i'm just like when do you have time to do because i've worked at a news organization and like it's a lot of work just to do the thing that goes on tv and then do all this other work of like being sketchy it's's just, I just, part of me just marvels at kind of like, when do they have the time to do all this chicanery behind the scenes?
Starting point is 00:54:10 So you're coming away more impressed than anything. I think they're good. I think they're good producers. I think they're good at some level. I mean, at some level the juggling is impressive. It's true. Just some other details from this report, again, by a Fox News employee who was, of course, immediately countersued and put on administrative leave. But as of, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:33 while we're talking, she's still a Fox News employee. That Tucker Carlson's offices featured large pictures of Nancy Pelosi wearing a plunging swimsuit. the staff casually makes anti-semitic and misogynistic comments uh mr carlson's staff held a mock debate about whether they would prefer to have sex with ms dixon or her democratic opponent governor gretchen whitmer
Starting point is 00:54:59 and that so like there's this detail of like her first full day on the job working for Tucker Carlson, uh, discovered that the Manhattan workspace was decorated with the Pelosi picture. Then the next day, Justin Wells, Mr. Carlson's top producer called her into his office and,
Starting point is 00:55:19 uh, asked her whether Ms. Ms. Bartiromo was having a sexual relationship with the house Republican leader, Kevin McCarthy. Um, that was day two of, it sounds like a very healthy workplace.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Yeah. Yes. It sounds cool as hell. And look, I don't want to be a stickler, uh, I don't want to be a stickler to Fox news, but isn't every swimsuit a plunging swimsuit anyway,
Starting point is 00:55:43 right? Plunging into the pool. Yeah. I have many, many, John, they repeat that line multiple times. And I,
Starting point is 00:55:51 I know I like the idea of a plunging swimsuit. Yeah. That just, that wording got, got approved. Um, yeah. But then when she complained about being harassed by male producers,
Starting point is 00:56:02 HR told her that she was not performing her duties um so yeah it's in some level it's kind of what you would expect from fox news uh but it's still horrifying to see it in in detail like what what it actually looks like behind the scenes nobody likes to see how the sausage gets made but you have to be impressed by their ability to just juggle it all. As Jody Avergan can be quoted as saying. I can't wait to see Dominion
Starting point is 00:56:34 in theaters March 21st. Right. Starring Ben Affleck. I mean, that might be interesting. I guess there already was that Fox News bombshell. Yeah. True bombshell. All of the details that I've learned from the various like Dominion reporting and, you know,
Starting point is 00:56:49 reporting on, on the lawsuit is like that movie must have had to cut so many details for being like two over the top because yeah, they, they still made it seem like there wasn't out in the open. Just, you know, uh, these sorts of things happening. All right. So a deadly fungus is supposedly, you know, is trending on Google yesterday.
Starting point is 00:57:15 The king of the graceful transition. Well, I do just want to let you know that increasing number of fungus samples resistant to the common treatments for it are appearing. I don't know. I tend to think that when a threat so perfectly matches a pop culture event that recently was incredibly popular to be skeptical. So I have a less popular opinion that Jeffrey Dahmer never ate anybody because he was arrested after Silence of the Lambs came out. And I think he was just an alcoholic who didn't clean up his murder scenes. Love this theory. Love that you voluntarily wedged that in with no real hook this is a great
Starting point is 00:58:08 thread that you're about to pull on here the news of a new deadly fungus other news Jeffrey Dahmer did he really eat anybody did he I don't know it's a theory these are John level segues John is very good segues too
Starting point is 00:58:24 so well you guys have a nice little song for that reference yeah to reference your amazing segues yeah if you just say the segue is good it's a good segue yeah it's kind of a good segue but anyway the other details that are leading me to think this might not be something that everybody needs to worry about do check your strawberries though there was a a strawberry recall. We talked about that on yesterday's trending. Frozen strawberries might give you hep A. So definitely everybody check that out. I think I saw something about that on... John's going to hate this, but one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:58:57 websites is called Iwaspoisoned.com. And I don't know if you guys know about it. It's like a crowdsourced website where people can post about if they got food poisoning and where they think they got it from. Wow. And it's like very useful on its face, but also sometimes people will... No, it's not. It's not useful at all. It's somewhat useful. You may be going to eat KFC tonight. I should check out iwaspoison.com to see if that's what he's got. Yeah, it's worth checking out, but what's really funny about it is that occasionally people will upload just like the nastiest
Starting point is 00:59:28 picture you've ever seen of like the end result of their food poisoning. And it's like, we would believe you if you just said you puked. Like, we didn't need to see it. So it's a very good website. I really like it. But John hates it so much. Did that have any relation to the sort of
Starting point is 00:59:44 Hep A thing or no? You were just kind of doing a jack. I think the strawberry stuff, they post stuff about recall announcements. Yeah, exactly. They mix in real news with just diarrhea and vomit pictures, which is actually a pretty good metaphor for our
Starting point is 01:00:00 podcast as well. Anyway, it's not new. The fungus isn not new. The fungus isn't new. The numbers are the result of the pandemic and with a lot of attention from the medical community being paid to
Starting point is 01:00:16 screening for COVID, less emphasis was put on screening for this, but it's a thing that they've known about. We're worried about this for a long time and have an eye on. So just in case anybody is out there concerned that the last of us is about to happen to them. It doesn't,
Starting point is 01:00:34 it feels like it's just trying to get you to click on an article. FYI. Have you seen the last of us, Pedro Pascal? Boy, I hope that happens. Thank you. Amen. John Pedro Pascal? Boy, I hope that happens. Thank you. Amen.
Starting point is 01:00:46 John, Pedro Pascal will still exist, whether or not there's like a fungus infection going around the world. You don't know. Okay, fair enough. But will he escort me around while I act like a little baby? That's a good point right there.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yeah, good point. Thank you. John, Stefan, such a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Thank you so much for having us. This was a blast. As you referenced off the top of the show, we have a podcast called The Blocked Party, where we bring on a guest every week to talk about a time they were blocked on social media.
Starting point is 01:01:18 We've had some great guests on the show recently and in the past. Tony Hawk, Nikki Glaser. You talked about Emily Heller before we got on air. there's some great episodes there you can check you had drill on right we've had him on a few times drill show a few times we've had some weird twitter guys on the show and he does look like a wrinkled jack nicholson and kind of wild but yeah so you can check that out wherever you get your pods and um i also have a podcast about new metal um you know and i know the daily zeitgeist fans are huge hornet limb biscuit people uh it's a monthly uh podcast me and and brian quinnby formerly of street fight radio and now of the podcast guys uh we review uh yeah a classic new metal album every
Starting point is 01:02:05 month people seem to like it uh that one's fun too uh block party you can check out at block party pod on twitter and the pod cast is at the pod underscore cast and we spell cast with a k yeah you go yeah of course yeah and i have a twitch stream uh we stream nightly it's with uh jesse farrar from your kickstarter sucks if you're familiar with that podcast uh and it's called the go off kings twitch.tv slash go off kings nice and is there a tweet or work of media probably social media that you guys have been enjoying i've been watching the new party down season and it is fantastic they they did not lose a single step. And I've been really enjoying it. I re-watched the first two seasons to kind of get ready for this one.
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Starting point is 01:03:07 a tweet that i did myself because uh it's from the pod cast patreon so it's not actually i was just sharing a story uh but we got basically the most unhinged patreon message i've ever received and i've i've ever seen uh and so i figured your listeners might like it and I would share it with you. So someone to keep in mind, someone donated to our Patreon. So they paid us to send this message. I haven't heard one second of your podcast, which is a great way to start a great way to start a message to someone. I haven't heard one second of your podcast, but I signed up for your Patreon because I feel like I need to be involved in a Nu Metal apologist discussion. Let me be frank.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Nu Metal was the most artistically bankrupt, idiotic, cynical, and probably toxic genre in music history. It really sucks. And this is we have a four year podcast talking about this genre. But I would like to offer my assistance and expertise on an episode dedicated to metal bands that briefly became new metal i'm thinking slayers stain of mind anthrax is inside out machine heads the bird red i'll even talk about load and reload although in retrospect those seem less like a cynical cash-in and more like james hetfield's less than stellar ability to copy his newfound favorite bands.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Anyway, while I will never agree with someone who concludes that Limp Bizkit was ever pretty good, I really want to have this conversation. Thanks. And so I replied to that by saying, unfortunately, we do think Limp Bizkit is one of the best bands ever, so I'm not sure this convo will work out. Thank you for thinking of us though. And then he replied, do you understand that you are objectively incorrect? Try listening to Limp Bizkit to find out. Again, we have covered five Limp Bizkit albums
Starting point is 01:04:56 on the show already. And the show is, the literal first episode of the show is about Limp Bizkit. And then he stopped donating to the show. And when you stop donating on Patreon, you have the option to fill out an exit survey. And his comment on the exit survey was, I thought
Starting point is 01:05:11 these guys wouldn't be morons who actually liked the music they discuss. Oh, well. There you go. Maybe he stopped contributing because he thought it might be a conflict. Because once you guys hired him to do the coverage that he was advertising that that could be did you say this person submitted this comment like anonymously or like could you have even no i i figured out who it was
Starting point is 01:05:35 i found their name they they submitted under a name and it's a fairly common like it wouldn't there would be options like it wasn't a sort of, you know, I would imagine there's, you're probably the only joke. And like, you know, it wasn't that type of,
Starting point is 01:05:51 it was common, uh, first name, common last name, but there is an, uh, like a sort of bit part actor that has that name. And I looked at their Twitter and they do kind of tweet like that. So in my mind, I'm sort of hoping that that's who it is.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And I'll tell you guys the name off air so you can also enjoy it. Amazing. Jody, pleasure having you. Thank you so much for co-hosting today. Where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Well, not much has changed since yesterday. So I, you know, I haven't made a new podcast since yesterday. So, but people can listen
Starting point is 01:06:30 to Good Sport wherever you get your podcasts. I also have this Radiotopia history show, This Day in Esoteric Political History. People can check that out. And yeah, since yesterday, what have I consumed? What have I, actually, you know what I'll recommend? I'll recommend this app that I really love. And I do a little work with them, full disclosure, but it's called Hark. And it's a like a podcast discovery app. And it solves something that I certainly have always felt, which is like feeling very overwhelmed by podcasts.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And what they do is they take little snippets from a bunch of different shows and make little playlists out of them. And so it's a great way to get a sense of a bunch of different shows. And then often I find myself saying, oh, okay, I have a sense of that. That's not for me. Or, oh, wow, I can find a new podcast. So it's Hark.
Starting point is 01:07:15 It's actually great. And they're nice people. And I'm into what they're up to. Amazing. Don't use that app to find podcasts besides this one. This is the only podcast that you need to listen to. Yeah, the crazy thing it's just a direct link you open the app it just goes directly to your show i do i do really like locked party i highly recommend that i also just james urbaniak tweeted that ron desantis is the same age as Jason Biggs.
Starting point is 01:07:48 That is a brain-breaking fact right there. I'm having a hard time with that, but I do love a good blank is the same age as blank. That one got me. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes
Starting point is 01:08:12 where we link off the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song usually Super Producer Justin is out. Super Producer Brian, is there a song that you think our listeners might enjoy?
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah. This song is by El Michelle's Affair featuring Bobby Arosa. It's called Stack the Deck. It's just what I've been hooked on for the last two or three days. It's kind of like a funky ballad, I guess.
Starting point is 01:08:50 It's definitely a love song and a lot of card game metaphors. Hey, we were talking about card games earlier. That's right. Is it specifically Marvel Snap metaphors? Well, you'll just have to listen to find it. Yeah, I guess you will. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes.
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