The Daily Zeitgeist - Good Day For Fascism = Good Day For Stonks!! 10.04.22

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

In episode 1344, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Get Rich Nick, Nick Turner, to discuss… Fascism Has a Good Day In Brazil And the Market Approves, Majorly Tainted Goon is Now Ju...st Leaning into the Paranoia, MORE OBSCURE SPORTS CHEATING and more! Fascism Has a Good Day In Brazil And the Market Approves Brazil girds for tight runoff vote after Bolsonaro's strong showing MORE OBSCURE SPORTS CHEATING LISTEN: Don't Say No by Speed, Glue & ShinkiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:22 And you know what? Surprisingly, nothing to do with cb radios truckers and none of that it's national cinnamon bun day national golf lovers day national taco day national vodka day and national eat fruit at work day which okay eat fruit at work okay like is that a thing you're not supposed to do like is don't know. Is that a taboo? I'm just trying to picture the person who started the campaign to get a national day for eating fruit at work. Right. He's probably just like some marketer. But I like to imagine instead somebody who's like, nobody, everybody's going to judge me if I eat this apple at my desk.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Every day is national fruit day. I'm sick of it. Thank you. National Fruit Day. I'm sick of it. Thank you. National Vodka Day. Really? Yeah. Vodka has a pretty strong following year-round, but all right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 That's definitely from the industry. Yeah. Golf Lovers Day is also. Yeah. And I'm sure that's from municipal politicians. Protect our golf courses. Remember National Golf Lovers Day? These are a sweet, sweet suck on our natural resources. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Protect our parks for the rich at all costs. Our private parks for the rich to walk around in. That's what they probably consider their house. It's like, that's our Section 8 housing. The government provides us this space for a benefit yeah my sanctuary all right well my name is jack o'brien aka plumpers that's right plumpers that is what i like to call my legs when you see these plumpers you'll think that guy must have mad boosties. That is courtesy of Josiah on Twitter. This, a.k.a. for Jack O'Brien, inspired by Blake Wexler's deeply upsetting use of the word plumpers last week.
Starting point is 00:04:18 So, shout out to you. Never forget is what I say about the use of plumpers to describe his legs. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Yeah, starting point guard for the Adelaide 36ers. Here comes Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, shout out to the Adelaide 36ers who had an upset win over the Phoenix Suns. And I just love the idea that I read the headline that was like Adelaide 36ers pull off an upset against the Phoenix Suns in preseason. I immediately was like, what the fuck are the 36ers? It's when the colony of South Australia was proclaimed.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yeah, it's like their version of 76ers. But it's still about colonization. I just had a knot in my stomach because I clicked through like a good consumer of clickbait to see which team it was. Because I don't follow the preseason so closely that I knew that this happened. Yeah, I wasn't like, oh, man, the Suns 36ers game. Here we go. I've got to catch that. But yeah, I was very relieved that it was the Suns and not my 76ers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Good show from the National Basketball League, the NBL in Australia. Australia. That was the worst attempt at it. Such a bad attempt at an Australian accent that I shouldn't have even acknowledged that's what I was doing. Yeah, just move on, Jack.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, move on. It also, so the last time the Suns played at home was when, it's very strange. They lost by like 50. It was supposed to be a big game seven. It had been like a back and forth battle. They were expected to prevail. And they were just like down 40 after the first quarter.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And it was this very strange like malaise had come over them. And now their first game, I think, since then. And they lose. And this was by far the best team in the NBA last year. So even if you're not an NBA fan, this is interesting from a psychological perspective. I think it shows that the talent gap might be tightening. Oh, yeah. Could be that, too.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Let's give it to the 36ers. I'm giving it to the 36ers all day. 36ers. It sounds like the 36ers are's give it to the 36ers. Hey, I'm giving it to the 36ers all day. 36ers. It sounds like the 36ers are a farm team to the 76ers. It does, yeah. You're bumped up to the 46ers. Work your way up. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Hey, Woody, you guys are playing like a bunch of 56ers today, huh? Well, Miles, that voice that just came in before he was introduced. Always. voice that just came in before he was introduced always we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious and talented comedian and podcast host you've seen him doing stand-up on something called tv which i'm told is short for television uh you've heard him on podcasts it's an older medium well yeah but it's still you know still has its adherence i'm told also you've heard him on podcasts like the truly hilarious get rich nicks please welcome the brilliant and talented nick turner
Starting point is 00:07:30 i do not wait for the man who does not wait for introduction that's right it's me baby okay i got some good ideas to sell some merch in uh in professional sports. You remember when IHOP went IHOP for burgers? IHOP. And it fucking crushed. Everybody loved it. We did it. For sure. There's a
Starting point is 00:07:57 TikTok trend where you would go to IHOP or whatever. Anyway, so I think the 49ers just for one week changed their name to the 69ers and then sell a shit ton of merch yeah and then fire whoever's idea it was and pretend and walk it back or another idea okay this one's better fuck that idea woodstock 69ers oh woodstock professional team in woodstock it's the only other number that works, or the only other
Starting point is 00:08:27 reason to have a 69. Oh, right, because that's the year of love. I was the summer of love. Summer of love. Just picturing two hippies 69ing in the mud, and that was much less pleasant. Oh, I bet a lot of that happened, though. Oh, for sure, for sure.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Just for hours at a time. Yeah. Lazily. Sixty-nining. They're doing it out of laziness. They're just chilling. I don't have time to do you. They were already naked, and they fell down that way and just were like, I guess this is as good a way to spend the afternoon as any.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would celebrate the birth of a social justice hero, Rhett Favre. He was born in 1969. So I would honor him. There you go. Always keeping the destitute in mind when building a volleyball stadium for your daughter. So you were just frantically Googling people born in 1969?
Starting point is 00:09:23 I was looking at everything because I was like, so much happened i'm like what's the weirdest thing that i'm like oh man sir hon sir hon we knew that guy was a liar because that's not how what his name is yeah it's favre yeah thank you yeah it got southern f Southern-ified is not a word. But he's from Mississippi, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out. Shout out to the grand Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Hey, shout out to stealing from the poor. Like, Mississippi, no one does it better. All right, Nick, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the Brazilian election. It was much closer than people expected. Bolsonaro won enough votes to push to a runoff that's going to happen at the end of the month. And the markets were psyched.
Starting point is 00:10:18 The markets surged after his stronger than expected. No way. Then the guy who's like, I'm really leaning into leftist social justice for this go around like when they have like oh thank god okay right yeah yeah so we'll talk about that we'll talk about mtg is now just leaning into the paranoia marjorie taylor green is claiming that republicans are being hunted so yeah i mean she's she wants people to just start killing democrats i think that's it's precisely what they're trying to do is just to motivate more political violence on their side through just complete fucking lies yeah we're gonna talk about more obscure sports cheating
Starting point is 00:10:58 yeah never a bad time we recently talked about allegations of cheating happening in the world of chess yes did you guys talk last week about the poker hand while i was out no that just froze twitter it was all the only thing that people were talking about on twitter for like two days was this woman winning a hand of texas hold'em right and the guy was just like dead inside right he's like what how could you why would you have done that though it doesn't make any analytical sense that you would have made that made that move and she i think she like misread her cards or something but if he like made her give him his money back and it the whole thing is what yeah because he was accusing her of cheating
Starting point is 00:11:45 right i definitely saw that because the clip was blowing up and i i i started watching one but it was like a four minute clip and nothing was happening and i was like i don't have time for this and by the end of the clip you you can see that something has happened because the people around them at the table are like oh my goodness and like wow i can't believe it's a dead drop he's drawn dead on this one i'm like uh-huh but they like once i read into it it just comes down to him thinking she had worse cards than she did and her behavior it's seems pretty straightforward like that's just how poker works yeah and and then he's like but she the things she said didn't make any sense. And now I have read theories from supposedly smart people being like, you can actually see her pants vibrating at one point.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Why is everyone's pants and asshole vibrating to cheat? So that is chess or poker. This one has nothing to do with vibrating assholes. I promise you that. But I won't tell you what it is. I'm just going to let you hear the anger first, and then we'll unfold it from there. Anyways, yeah, we'll talk about that and all of that. Plenty more.
Starting point is 00:12:57 But first, Nick, what is something from your search history? Oh, finally, you got to me. Jesus. Jesus Christ. I thought there was some more sports I hadn't heard of doing cheating. Alright, yeah. Well, it's weird because it's almost exclusively porn. Okay. Well, I like that. If it's almost exclusively, then whatever is it I think is probably the most interesting. What interrupted your porn search?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Do I have a porn addiction? No, sometimes I'm just done. But this is one of those times, which is why I finally agreed to do your podcast. I was Googling late night eats in Philadelphia this weekend. I was nowhere near. No, I was in Philadelphia. I just wanted to know what I could be eating.
Starting point is 00:13:46 What are the people of Philadelphia eating this late evening? We were at a wedding and we were staying at the Maj Hotel, which kind of, if you slur it, kind of sounds like the Taj Mahal. Right. The Maj. So that's what I call it. Stay at the Maj. I stayed at the, yeah. I was trying to figure out a way to make it work. Right So that's what I call Um Yeah I mean I got all the time in the world
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah If I stay Yeah You got it I mean it might be easier to pull off that you stayed at the Mirage Okay we were staying at the Mirage Mahal Okay And we got back late on Mirage Mahal, and we got back late on Friday, and I
Starting point is 00:14:27 asked the front desk girl, sorry, woman, if she had a recommendation for anything to eat, and she says, you know what? Nope. Wait, like that? She hit you with it like that? Yeah, she was like, ah, she's like, maybe she wasn't going to do it.
Starting point is 00:14:47 But then she's like, I've been burned before. I don't have a recommendation. And I said, okay, well, that's weird. But she said, okay, I do have a recommendation. You can try Uber Eats. Okay. And I said, okay okay that is hilarious she was absolutely done yeah so i had to do a little googling myself but you know what i checked out uber eats and it worked yeah land on she
Starting point is 00:15:21 wasn't wrong i got some uh Chinese food. It was fantastic. Oh, great. I was also at a wedding too. Similar situation like the night before, like the Friday night stuff had ended and you're getting back to the hotel. But I'm like, I'm smoking and shit. So I'm like, oh man, I want to fucking eat. But we were like in a fucking two two-lane highway town and it was
Starting point is 00:15:46 funny because me and this other guest of the wedding we were both like we must have both had been like hungry because we were both looking at our phones at the same time we turned to like our partners were like there's nothing on uber eats right now so i ate a lot of fucking pretzels yeah well you should have been in the sixth largest city in the united states there's a lot more options. Where were you? This place called New Cuyama, which was, it's a town on the other side of the mountains of where like Santa Barbara is. I had never been here before growing up in Southern California, but apparently it was this town that Arco thought was going to be the new Saudi Arabia, like in the fifties or sixties and set up all this infrastructure to be like here we go and then the wells went dry and it just
Starting point is 00:16:25 fucking collapsed and then these people are trying to like revitalize it which is the most stressful undertaking i think i've ever heard someone say out loud it's like we want to bring this town back to life and i'm like wow that that's a lot of time and commitment but yeah it was great good time but exxon already drank their milkshake yes absolutely yeah all of it i mean i think what they did was they thought they saw like a big ass cup and they're like there's probably a shitload of milkshake in that cup and then they drank a little bit they're like okay there was only one sip we were over our skis on that one. What is something you think is overrated, Nick? Okay. I think overrated is
Starting point is 00:17:07 flying to weddings. I think that we, as a society, should just pick a city where the most people you want to come are and those people go to your wedding
Starting point is 00:17:24 and no one else does. And we just don't even do it anymore. We don't fly to five different weddings in a year. We just hang out in our house. We tell our closest loved ones we love them. And we move on with our lives. What do you think? I like it.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Have your support. When people have a normal party, they don't expect you to fly in for it. Not one person has ever flown in to one of my ragers. Yeah. Fair. Fair. I mean, how would you do that, though? Like, is there like an algorithm you set up to try and find what's the like to do this diplomatically?
Starting point is 00:18:07 It's like, well, you're from here. You're from here. We live here. Yeah. 80% of our friends are in this city. Use that like triangulation formula that the police use to discover where a serial killer lives. Right. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:20 You get your yarn out. And then but it turns out the answer is always the city that you currently live in. Right. Yeah, yeah. Turns out that's where my friends are. But then people, it's always like a small city, you know, like you'll go. But the smaller the city, the more expensive it is to go there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Like if you're flying into new kuyama that's like a 1600 flight oh you can't i mean there was there is an airstrip next next to the hotel but i don't think it's nothing has landed or taken off from there in decades but it's it's an interesting thing where it's like it's cheaper to have the wedding in like a smaller town or something because the market isn't as inflated as like a bigger city but like to your point it's like yeah getting there is like six grand though yeah and it's in california yeah like i can get to tokyo cheaper than i can get to cincinnati where'd you get those tickets? Oh, I have a private airline. There were some people on my flight to Philly. There was like a nine-person family.
Starting point is 00:19:29 And they had not been having fun at the airport. And then when they got on, the dad was like, we're flying private from now on. This is ridiculous. And it's like they weren't even in first class and i wonder if he knew how much private was right they did wait did did he feasibly look like someone who may have flown private or they were saying that like as if they don't know and they're just like i like that idea we're flying private but you know that you've seen people where you're like, this guy could live on the street or be a millionaire.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know. Was this LA to Philly? If you have money to fly nine family members on a plane, you obviously are not a broke person. Right. Or terrible with money. Because they were almost all kids yeah that's a lot oh and just have that like yeah i got nine kids and we do whatever we want because money is not an object
Starting point is 00:20:31 right next up tahiti but private also it's probably tough to get nine seats in first you know so maybe that's why he was back oh and then blaming the kids it's like i should be up there did he loudly say it as he got on the plane that's a that was an interesting well yeah because we got on early because we have a kid now uh under two and we got to board early so this was kind of a private show for us yeah yeah yeah that we were privy to i love love that. Traveling with the babies, not fun. Nothing better. I'm pretty sure everything is better than traveling with a baby. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Yeah, that, except for that. Well, we did an East Coast trip like three weeks ago, too, and we brought the dog. Little East Coast swing? The dog also. And so we had baby and the dog. So this was better than that. God,
Starting point is 00:21:26 that sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, but it wasn't as bad as the trip was. As hell. I mean, cause that's the thing. People think that traveling with the baby and the dog are hell, but no,
Starting point is 00:21:40 when you get to the place, it sucks the whole time. Yeah. Yeah. or hell but no when you get to the place it sucks the whole time yeah yeah have to bring like a formula one races worth of infrastructure with you like on a plane to be like all right man this kid can shit anywhere and we have multiple outfits and we're ready to go for any contingency but there's too many things too and there's always something insane you forgot. Like, this time we forgot socks and shoes. Yeah. All for yourselves or for your kids?
Starting point is 00:22:09 You just got to the airport, stepped out of the car. Like, oh, no. Oh, boy. Oh, man. My shoes are all cold and rocky. Wait. I'm standing on asphalt. So we paid the cab driver $100.
Starting point is 00:22:24 I got his socks. Lyra got his shoes. And we just stuck the baby's feet in each one of our breast pockets. Yeah. Good to go. Yeah. The trips are overrated. I'm just now coming out of the phase where it is straight up a nightmare to travel.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And even still, the four-year-old is rough sledding because when he wakes... Yeah, but when is it the worst? What year is the worst? It's right now through... I'd say two through four is pretty bad oh tell me it's over jack come on why yeah because it's at an age where like a movie does not like that they get bored with a movie pretty quickly and so you can't just watch my phone for two hours while I just enjoy the silence,
Starting point is 00:23:30 but it's, yeah, it's pretty, it's pretty, it's a lot. It's just, you have to do it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Why did we do it? It's a great question. No, but I love him. Wouldn't change it for a thing. What else is happening? What's something you think is, what's something you think is what's something you think is underrated okay underrated i would say a dj at your wedding the people that come up to me and they say i got a band for my i paid the extra money and we got it buddy, the band. Well guess what? The band takes
Starting point is 00:24:06 breaks. And the band is, they have varying levels of talent. And the band doesn't do any Jackson 5. Right. The band, whatever the band is, there's no band on earth that is as diverse
Starting point is 00:24:22 as I would like a wedding playlist to be. Right. I went to a wedding in Philly and they did not play Let Me Clear My Throat. Oh!
Starting point is 00:24:38 It's because the band didn't know it. We were hoping for more of a Motown Philly vibe. Yeah, you just need a few... Yes, a Detroit Philly. I said East Coast Swing earlier. I know. I appreciated it, Jack. Don't worry. Back in school, we used to dream of matches every day.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Sounds like they could have used you on the mic. Anyway, the bands are nice, but when I'm at a wedding, nothing a band is doing Okay. Yeah. So, uh, anyway, you know, you just, the bands are nice, but, uh, when I'm at a wedding, nothing, nothing a band is doing makes me like run to the dance floor.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Right. Unless, okay. I've, yeah, I've been to one wedding where the band was so fucking good. I couldn't believe it. Like they were like,
Starting point is 00:25:19 we're fucking killing it. Like they did Taylor Swift and then hit like cool in the gang seamlessly. And you're like, Oh fuck. They were really good. Damn son. Where'd you find those? it like they did taylor swift and then hit like cool in the gang seamlessly and you're like oh fuck they were really good damn son where'd you find those well it's even wilder this week so i was at a wedding too this weekend it was a little what was wild is they hired a dj who comes with a drummer a trombone player and the dj plays sax so he'll be like playing shit. That's dope. And then he'll just sort of... Watch me. I took a video because this shit was so
Starting point is 00:25:47 wild. This is them doing house music, but this dude is ripping a trombone. Oh, shit. I just fucked up my whole mic. Hold up. Oh, no. No shit. I just fucked him real bad. We're not getting that video. No, not a chance.
Starting point is 00:26:05 This thing got me so turnt up. Okay, now I got to show you this band. Just listen. You know this track they're playing, too. Like... This is the DJ and the trombone player playing this shit. And, like, moving around a little bit. Yeah, this dude was getting his check.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah. Dude, so many songs. The trombone player would come out of nowhere and just like rip a trombone solo to like fucking crazy in love and shit. Damn, that is a great idea. That's fucking incredible. Yeah. That blew my mind. I think that is such a great endorsement for what you're talking about, Nick. And also the other big endorsement that Miles just said was that he's been to one wedding where the band actually like, Miles goes to a wedding every weekend. He is the most popular human being I know. He's always inviting me. Well, I just have Zeitgang invite me. I say, hey, we're getting married.
Starting point is 00:27:05 I'll show up. I won't eat. I won't eat. I won't eat. He goes on Twitter and just searches, we're getting married, and then tries to make fast friends. Like how people would, like,
Starting point is 00:27:15 Zoom bomb in the early pandemic when trolls would just look for loose Zoom links on Twitter. You're in the back of every engagement photo popping over a bush. And I'm like, man, this band's good. They're like, where did you get that chicken from? One band out of his whole wedding crasher career. But that was amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:32 It was just kind of like they knew how to use the instruments that were horn or brass-based and just accentuate. And that was fantastic. This band was a whole bunch of old lawyers. Yes. Literally old lawyers. Yes. Literally old lawyers. That's the other thing you look for in a good band. Yeah, like 70s rock music. And that description sounds bad.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yes. But I will say they were incredible at what they did. Right. Playing 70s rock covers. The first song was like i could have sworn that guy was neil young had come out he was doing a neil young and i mean i was like and they were all really great at their instruments but at one point the guy uh the lead singer said um people say people complain that all of our music uh everyone that wrote it is dead
Starting point is 00:28:28 our music uh every everyone that wrote it is dead but so we do have one newer song and we're gonna play it right now and they played wagon wheel wagon wow rock me mama like a wagon wheel that one you know i don't know it's like 15 years old right i. I like to like, but guess who's not dead? Three, four. On a dark desert highway. Cool wind in my hair. Yo, what the fuck? You're like, hey, they're still here. Three out of the five of them are alive. They're still here.
Starting point is 00:28:55 So fuck that. Eagles never die. Never die. Never die. Amazing. All right. Well, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:32:21 and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?
Starting point is 00:32:52 I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, so real quick, checking with the Brazilian election. And yeah, so real quick, checking with the Brazilian election, we've been kind of talking about this, keeping eyes on this for a little while now, because it is a fairly straightforward showdown between progressive leftist policies and open and unabashed fascism.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And fascism didn't like fully prevail, but it did better than expected. And yeah, so Lula, who is a leftist former president in Brazil, was expected to beat Bolsonaro in the first round of the election and get 50% of the vote. He did not. He got 48.5. Bolsonaro got like around 43. And so that leads to a runoff, which gives Bolsonaro more opportunities to, you know, fuckery. Yeah. Yeah. Claim fraud, stage a coup. And yeah, it just I don't know. The main reason I'm bringing it up is because the main story from Reuters about this was like markets are surging after Bolsonaro is stronger than expected result. And I just think it kind of goes back to what we've been saying on this show, which is that the status quo, like powers that be in the world, in the global economy, would much rather have fascism than they would leftist policies that actually help people. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Well, we definitely know that sharing will fuck the market up terribly. Isn't this how we can classify every international election now? That it's either the fascist or the crunchy leftist, like Italy, France? or the crunchy leftists like Italy, France? Well, I think in other countries, the thing that's, the fascism is not the ingredient that's missing. Fascism is everywhere. The leftist is the ingredient that's usually missing.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Like an openly progressive leftist candidate is usually missing. And it hasn't been like South and Central America, there's been some success with leftist leaders uh taking power which is why i'm surprised brazil is like go voted the person that y'all are voting for rather than go coup that will help our global interests which is right i feel like what we normally hear uh in these situations especially and that makes sense because on the like the financial side of it, everyone's like, Hey man, Hey, that was great for the market. So, huh. Yeah. Not sure what the lived experience is for, you know, marginalized Brazilian people. Yeah. I mean, the alliance between corporate rule capitalism as it currently exists and fascism has been clear in the U S for a long time, there was an attempt to overthrow FDR's administration,
Starting point is 00:36:06 which we've talked about before, called the business plot, where FDR's administration was the result of a leftward movement in the event of catastrophic failure of the market rule philosophy, which led to the Great Depression. And so a bunch of business leaders hired a military general to overthrow to like try and stage a coup on the u.s government and it was found out because they like the general was like nah fuck you guys and that but that's the only reason it was like found out and that like that that is the truth about the current status quo. Like Jeff Bezos, like people who are some of the most powerful people in the world would much rather have fascism than leftist rule and like socialism. Yeah, just watching kind of like the like the last push like this last week. I mean, Bolsonaro got like a ton of people to be like, yo, you better fucking get on wax endorsing me.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Like Neymar, the soccer player, did like this very cringy video where he was like singing Bolsonaro's like 2020 like campaign slogan. And it's just, you know, it's it's it's interesting to watch just how like like how the mainstream responds to this, how they're like more, some artists are like, no, we would never vote for Bolsonaro. A lot of like athletes are like more traditional, like conservative and like, yep, we're all in here. And also just see that like the pieces are there for, you know, a potential coup, but a lot of people feel that it might not be enough of a plurality of the military and police to pull it off. Yeah. But i think that's what makes this runoff like scary because in the interim between them between now and the runoff
Starting point is 00:37:51 a lot more destabilizing shit can occur if bolsonaro tries to you know follow through on what he seemed to have been promising which is like i ain't leaving yeah and bolsonaro was thought like people the the overall story had been he was just getting his ass kicked in this election. So having a stronger than expected result, who knows what that's going to do for military leaders who are like on the fence about whether or not to participate in the coup that he is clearly kind of steady, steadily pressuring them to to carry out yeah so and so much fucking dude there's so much like the rainforest is such a big deal like i think so much that's going to be determined by who wins this yes election like there's so there's so much at stake that i think you know from us on the outside you know looking in just don't don't fully grasp and every time i'm like reading i'm like jesus the corruption the fucking like the the state of our rainforest
Starting point is 00:38:51 and shit like that all hang in the balance just record deforestation under bolton oro and like that is not just it doesn't seem like it's like a a accidental byproduct of his of his philosophy it's like that part of his philosophy is like no fuck those trees yeah so yeah everybody in brazil it's time to vote all right thank you the only way we can save democracy is if you vote so if you're already in line stay in line right and that's why the other thing like i we we're gonna start a campaign on here called rock the vote where we just like get get people to understand that it's cool to vote. And hopefully that'll change the tides.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, that sounds so cool. I'm thinking about trying to rap the vote. Rap the vote is a cool idea. Rap. No, there was a rap the vote, I think. There was. That's a real campaign. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:43 That was also very, uh, there was like an album. Wasn't there a 40 year old? Was Hillary Clinton like dropping bars on the, on the album or like, God, I want to look this up.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It feels like, I feel like it was like Chuck D probably was in there, you know, like that, that era of things. Right. Yeah. I'm not finding anything good. I think we've
Starting point is 00:40:10 Mandela affected it. There was definitely something where rappers were coming out in weird full force in 2004. I remember it was the first presidential election I voted in. I was like, this... Vote or die.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Vote or die. That's what it was. Vote or die was the one that Did i was like this it maybe was maybe the rock the vote or die or vote or die that's what it was i was the one that did he was like the main yeah person for yes did he i will vote or die thank you vote or die yeah all right let's talk about marjorie taylor green miles what's uh as our as our correspond yeah shout All the single ladies. Yeah. Shout out to single ladies, you know, because got me looking so crazy right now. These rallies got me looking so crazy right now. She had a she was Trump had a rally in Michigan over the weekend. Apparently people left 15 minutes into him speaking.
Starting point is 00:40:59 I don't take that with I don't look at that good or bad or anything. I just I think people just go and they're like, all right, I've seen enough. I will still vote for racism. Don't worry. But I think maybe they left because Trump presumably was the most subdued speaker there that evening. Marjorie Taylor Greene took the mic. It was, I think, one of the openers for the orange god. And, you know, basically just straight up falsely claimed that Democrats have already begun the systemic killings of Republicans.
Starting point is 00:41:30 I'll play this clip for you. Oh, nice. I didn't know we had started. Well, I'll play this and we'll talk about kind of what she's even referencing on the other side. We're all targets now, though, for daring to push back against the regime. And it doesn't stop at a weaponized legal system. I'm not going to mince words with you all. Democrats want Republicans dead. And they've already started the killings.
Starting point is 00:42:08 An 18-year-old boy was run down by a Democrat driver who confessed to killing the teenager simply because he was a republican wow i'm gonna need a citation here in michigan just last week an 83 year old woman was shot in the back for advocating for the unborn whoa we hadn't heard of any of these has declared every freedom loving american an enemy of the state. OK, that's we'll just stop there. So she's referencing two things. The first one was this guy in North Dakota where the sort of the headlines were that this guy thought this 18 year old that he like killed with his car, like ran over with his car. He thought he was like a Republican and then like an extremist Republican. And like they had an argument.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Apparently, according to this guy, had an argument and over politics the guy felt that this dude was going to call up his homies or whatever and they were going to fucking attack him so he like in a panic like i guess attack this guy with this car not really defensible no matter how you cut it but the police and during their investigation said they found no evidence that there was any like political anything involved with this okay like it could have just been a drunken argument where someone just fucking lost their shit and then killed another person not because they said i'm voting for trump what now i'm a target no and then the other one was about what happened in michigan where she said this woman was shot in her back this was apparently this woman was going around.
Starting point is 00:43:25 It's like 80 something year old woman was going around trying to get people to vote against the ballot proposition that would have enshrined like abortion access in the state constitution. Because she's like, hi, I'm pro forced birth. Don't you know, don't help people. OK, can I count on you? And then the woman was like, no, I'm not really into that. Please leave. She wouldn't leave. An argument, I guess, ensued that the
Starting point is 00:43:46 husband came out and, like, fired a warning shot into the tree, and then, like, she was, then this guy said he thought she was going to come at her with a clipboard, so he tried to club it away with his gun, but his finger was on the trigger guard and accidentally hit her in the shoulder. Again, I don't know what the fuck is going on there, but
Starting point is 00:44:02 hardly a situation where it's, like, ding-dong, are you a situation where it's like, ding dong. Are you a Republican right this way to the fucking, you know, whatever the fuck terrible situation she's trying to paint? Yeah. Well, she's got a good point. Millions of black and brown people killed by the police. Right. And then two confusing stories that you could make an argument for exactly i mean
Starting point is 00:44:26 you want to talk about hunting people down i'm like that's that the republicans or conservatives extremists are doing that with like abortion seekers talk about the people who escort people to and from clinics they're like it's a whole other level of just violence and aggression uh or you know like you're saying people of color who are interacting with the cops the lgbtq community black you know fucking anybody jewish people there's all these people who get targeted but again this is something where they found some version of like oh the word i thought he was a republican fits right into this like this like out of control worldview that i'm trying to pedal which is
Starting point is 00:45:06 they want us dead so we better start thinking of that they might not be human as well which obviously that's all part of you know like any civil war or internal uprising like that you have to really go full pedal to the metal on dehumanizing the other to be able to get people in a different zone to mistreat or act out violence against them right they have to do this kind of shit because like object the facts don't favor any of their policies like objectively the republicans worldview is basically there is a version of the world where some people just deserve to die right that's just on them that's really not our problem those people that's not our problem.
Starting point is 00:45:47 That's on them. If they died, then you know what? Maybe it was supposed to be that way. That's pretty much how they think. So this is kind of like now just having to project that shit outwardly where they're like, yeah, just because of this, they think you're not a person. But, you know, you look at the Florida like hurricane uh relief like sort of tug of war that's happening rhetorically where it's like i want it no i don't want it i need it thank you i'm marco rubio and i've said seven different things in two days and this goes along with the
Starting point is 00:46:17 grooming like the whole argument that people on the left and you know mainstream democrats are grooming people like these are all claiming that if if don't kill them, they're going to kill you. And things about them coming after your children are all like textbook tactics for when you are going to justify systemic like murder of of a group of people of the out group. Like that's right it's proceeding like along like they're going down a checklist and you look at how they attack like other candidates and races and it's never on the merits it's never about the policies it's john federman's a crip right what that's not a fucking argument the same things have with stacy abrams right now they're like stacy ab Abrams will be the fucking God, Lord, Savior of planet Earth.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Like they're sending mailers around with the shot of her being on the new Star Trek show where she was played a character of the president of Earth. And they're like, you don't want to live on planet Stacey and going like the taxes and crime are going to be out of control. And then like they have Joe Biden in the back doing like terrible Photoshop. Spock, Vulcan, Live Long and Prosper, gang signs and shit. Their Photoshop skills are really like that. That's the one word that we can win with them every time. I mean, it looks pretty convincing. Look how big Joe Byron's hand is compared to his head. They gave him a baby hand.
Starting point is 00:47:44 They gave him a baby hand they gave him a trump hand yeah so but again like it's all this whole thing of like painting whoever of like they can't even be like wow stacy abrams wants people to be able to vote like i'm sorry uninhibited or to other things and that actually looks like stacy abrams hand you look at the placement they just stacy abrams has a white hand right either one but i like this one they're saying they're almost saying look these white people are subservient to the black president of earth like it's all so fucking what if we had a black president would this white man be there's no way this white man
Starting point is 00:48:28 would serve under him and again this is just all they have is to just to feed more paranoia to make people feel more unsafe everything you watch especially on Fox right now everything is meant to make you be like I don't know my fucking neighbor are they trying to fucking
Starting point is 00:48:43 stab me they trying to give my kid fentanyl I don't know my fucking neighbor. They trying to fucking stab me. They trying to give my kid fentanyl. I don't know. It's just we're, you know, it's it's it's running at a very low hum, but it's every day it gets ramped up. If we have term limits and Marjorie Taylor Greene had no more had no more elections. Would she do any of this? Or would she actually try to do something good for her constituents? No, I think she'd be doing this.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Still be doing this. Yeah, she would be doing this in a Facebook group if it wasn't for her. I think she was doing it in a Facebook group before. That's how she came to people's attention, was being wild on Facebook. And I think, yeah, this is just like being on like a reality show as like uh you know like it's like this a to b to c sort of sequence to become like a mainstream celebrity it's like well first i got
Starting point is 00:49:38 to get on the bachelor and if i go far enough then i get that spawn con and i can start doing that and you know change my income a little bit. And I feel like you see so many of these like opportunistic politicians left and right. But right now, especially on the right, we're like immigrants, gay people and people like, wow, we love it. And they know that by getting into Congress, it legitimizes you on some level. And then you can start grifting like you sure sure that's what they all do it's you hear political analysts be like well that's where the energy is on the republican side and it's like for like genocide is that what you mean yeah wow it's in the air the people are wild for it and the q stuff is really that's where
Starting point is 00:50:22 all the energy is so everyone wants to get to the point where they have the hundreds of millions of dollars to pay the Sandy Hook parents when they eventually come for it. I want that settlement to only wipe out a third of my wealth. I'll still be okay. That's the dream. Alright, let's take another quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk sports cheating. I'm Jess Casavetto,
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Starting point is 00:55:02 And, yeah, so the sports cheating story that caught my attention over the weekend was the the poker one and basically it just doesn't doesn't make sense like when you when you look into it if you've seen it but haven't had the patience to like look into it like for her to have cheated on this hand she would have had to have known what cards were coming essentially because like she made decisions as if she knew what cards were coming and that's like impossible so well can you tell us what was in her hand at the time it was like a jack four i think okay so the other guy had an eight nine straight draw like possibility and so that are a straight flush possibility and so they people were
Starting point is 00:55:50 like you never you never like stand on a hand against something like that unless you could see his cards and like knew exactly what's happening but everybody who i've seen who is a rational person and does not seem to be at least partially motivated by misogyny is like even if she knew what his cards were, it didn't make sense for her to stay in. So knowing what his cards were like, she either misread her hand, didn't like kind of made a mistake and was just didn't really know what she was doing and then was kind of bluffing and talking shit to act like she did it all on purpose but it doesn't it doesn't matter there's no cheating that's how like right like that's what games of chance are about and like for him to that the big thing is that he then like she was pulled aside by the organizer organizer of the tournament and this player who she beat and they like basically intimidated her into giving the money back right and he's like see she cheated she wouldn't have given the money back
Starting point is 00:56:52 if if if she hadn't cheated yeah or maybe just she was being harassed by a bunch of men and she felt like he's like the most powerful player in the tournament and everyone's like he does a lot for the sport of poker but i don't know anyways that's it's not really worth looking into if you if you haven't it's just like it seems like it's misogyny and so we're losing and then right to me it's more like this dude couldn't fathom that maybe she just read your ass like maybe she just knew how to fucking get you to slowly start raising right and and then just figured you out i don't know and he's like there's no fucking way that could happen because i'm a guy she's cheating and i haven't seen any evidence but in this scandal i'm about to talk about we have some there's some fucking evidence
Starting point is 00:57:34 and the shit i had no i okay so i'm right now i'm just gonna we talked about the chess vibrating asshole scandal we've talked about potentially vibrating pants gate in the poker world this is from another sports tournament over the weekend i'm not going to say the sport right now i just want you to listen to the fucking anger from this clip when people have found out that someone who won this tournament was cheating he needs to be arrested he needs to be prosecuted so death motherfucker no theft theft okay although they were talking like it could have been death too yeah that was from a walleye fishing tournament in ohio the reason that people are screaming fucking murder is because the organizer of the
Starting point is 00:58:24 tournament noticed something was amiss well with the caught fish that the tournament's winners had presented when they had to weigh the fish. So he got his knife out, cut the fucking fish open, and pulled out a bunch of lead weights. Like, you can see it in the clip. The guy's just slicing them open. I'll play the clip for you because when they're also slicing the things open the fucking like it it goes to a whole other level When people realize the guy just gutted it and pulled fucking lead weights out so a ton of lead weights in the fish's stomachs that were hidden and you don't know that the fish didn't eat them that's true you're right and how did they also eat other fillets of other walleyes do they have a fillet knife and then they cannibalize each other? Because another fish was just stuffed with more walleye like fillet.
Starting point is 00:59:30 They were stuffed with other fish fillets and a pair of pliers. The fish fillets are a good idea. The fish fillets are a good idea. I also read another one where people stuff a bunch of bait Into their stomach so that then People will stuff with ice So their evidence melts After they weigh There's so many ways to do this
Starting point is 00:59:53 Right like of and the thing Is these guys have been winning Like over two million dollars Like over their careers and when you Like they were about to walk off with 30,000 that day if they if no one was wise to their shit but and like with the entry fees being between like the hundreds of dollars and thousands of dollars you can see why these guys are fucking pissed because you get a
Starting point is 01:00:15 boat there's fucking sponsorships there's all this money that comes along with like winning these tournaments and a lot of people have been like i don't fucking get it these fucking guys one of the fishermen was like i caught a fish the exact same like length but their shit was like two pounds heavier than mine and so this there's been some suspicion and apparently cheating and fishing is such a huge problem i didn't know that like to the point where in texas there are laws specifically to cover this kind of shit like it is a class a misdemeanor or a third degree felony to do that. Defrauding a fishing tournament with prizes that are more than $10,000
Starting point is 01:00:49 carries a maximum fine of $10,000 and a possible 10 years in state prison. Wow. So they don't fuck around. I heard some other ways to cheat at fishing too, where people will have friends bring them fish
Starting point is 01:01:04 out in the water. water yeah or they'll have they'll hide cages under the water and they bring them up there yeah yeah i mean recover that from the cages with the priest of fish i have a friend dress up as a fish and then catch him and bring him in and i'm like that motherfucker is 180 pounds. Yeah, guys. I'm a fucking hundred. Look at me. I'm 150 pound giant fucker. It's Tim Robinson in a fish costume. Yo, I just don't understand how this went on for so long.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Because everyone thought it. And everyone kind of knew it. And they never once took a knife to a fish. Never once. And then when they bring it out, it's got multiple giant weights in it the weights is really they got lazy the weight to beat was 16 pounds
Starting point is 01:01:51 and they came in at 33 pounds what were they doing why was this so much too much dip on their chip that's what everyone said they were like swinging for the fences they weren't even going to get more money you just had to be sick just had to beat them by a fucking fraction of whatever the and then wait like the way because you don't see the guy's face
Starting point is 01:02:14 in the video that's the one problem but the guy that just got caught you see him from oh you can see him but he just stands there he's just you can tell he's looking at him that's oh here there's a frame of him from the side just his profile oh yeah yeah like he tell he's looking at him that's oh here there's a frame of him from the side just his profile oh yeah yeah like he knows he can't even process what's happening yeah these guys are in his ear like do you just walk away do you just you gotta kill yourself he is just absolutely still and expressionless with a little bit of a downturned hangdog look like imagine you're literally LeBron James and then someone comes in
Starting point is 01:02:48 and they're like, oh, actually, this guy's wearing false legs. These are illegal. He's got rocket stilts. He's got rocket stilts and he's playing with a remote control ball. Yeah, but then, no, you're just fucking Pete Rose.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I don't know. They even have shit where, like, you know, there will be observers on the boat sometimes to make sure that people aren't cheating. But apparently people will bribe these people, too, to be like, yo, you didn't say shit. Well, yeah, also, they go to the bathroom and you stuff a weight in.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Like, they can't just be there the whole time. Get a camera. And then you also take polygraph tests, too. They take polygraph tests. Like, the anglers will take polygraph tests after the fact, too. But, again, come on. I mean, if you've ever, like, hung out with fishermen or, like, fished before and, like, talked to somebody who, like, does it for for a living you recognize that they are maybe the biggest liars in the like they're professional liars like they're like lawyer level professional
Starting point is 01:03:51 liars like fishing tail like to tell them the tale the one that got away and all that stuff like that our culture is like shot through with cliches about what liars fishermen are so yeah if this is the first time they cut open their fish, I'm a little disappointed in the integrity of the governing body of bass fishing. Yeah, not one tournament had a big magnet that they slapped the fish against and see if it sticks.
Starting point is 01:04:16 I don't think lead would react to a magnet. Jesus, Nick. Oh, shit. I gotta get out of here. I have to go read my Civil War manual. You need to go look at your fucking periodic table of elements, fam.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Californium! That was wild. So are these guys, are they... The guy has a look on his face like he's counting the number of, like, trying to do the math on, like, how quickly he could run to his, presumably, F-150 and just and just like get the fuck out of there. He's also got to be thinking it's like places to bury his money because he is about to lose everything.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Right. Yeah. And also like it's true. Like they're on like on Reddit. I went on like the like R slash fishing just to be like I got the take from like general reddit and i was like what's fishing reddit gotta say and like they're people all talking about these guys pass and they felt that like the last couple events people were getting more suspicious so like it might have just been like boiled over this tournament where they're like no fucking no like we were willing
Starting point is 01:05:19 to maybe not sully the game by like accusing you of cheating then but i apparently this was just a bridge too far yeah like the other thing that people were saying was like you know the the organizers are probably gonna seek restitution for like the prize money that's come from like because they won the previous year's tournament and are probably going to investigate what's gone on there and these guys have been you know they've been caught before so it's just fucking i think we can give them the benefit of the doubt on the previous year's tournament. They're just better at fishing. Come on.
Starting point is 01:05:49 So what? He got a $45,000 boat. It's fine. It's fine. But it's wild too to see like, again, in the commentary, people like, this is what's wrong with the sport, man. Like we're out there trying to be honorable. And then, but to your point, Jack, I'm like, are you guys all know? Like, it's all about like verifying things that are very easy to like switch it up on people yeah well nick truly a
Starting point is 01:06:12 pleasure as always oh that's so nice where can uh where can people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff uh great question i'm on twitter but more, I wanted to say that I have a new special out on YouTube. It's called Ice Cold. My name's Nick Turner. That's all you need to know. And go check that out. And I would love it. Like an ice cold glass of Nick Turner, please.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Yeah. You know what? Okay. This is why it's called Ice Cold. Because I did warm up sets for four hour long tapings. And the network said to do said to make them all different. I did four 15-minute sets. And the network said to do them all different.
Starting point is 01:06:54 And that there's a chance that they would make another hour special out of it. And then give me tens of thousands of dollars and put it on the network. And I said, great, I'll take that gamble. And so this hour is for cold audiences. Wow. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And so a normal person would not have done this, but I fucking did this. And, um, in the end, this was not cut together until after the season started airing and it was not considered wow for an hour special but they did end up cutting it and it's cut with this uh interview and uh it's actually like the best thing i think i've ever done i mean uh better than any tv set
Starting point is 01:07:40 i've ever had better than my other album i I was like, I, my half hour for comedy central. I watched two minutes of it. I noticed that they had edited out a sentence in the middle of a joke. And then I fast forwarded it to make sure they kept in the audience interaction that they promised me they would. And they didn't. And I never fucking watched it. But,
Starting point is 01:08:02 uh, but this one, I'm really proud of my, my wife appears in it. My baby appears in it. My mother appears in it. But this one, I'm really proud of. My wife appears in it. My baby appears in it. My mother appears in it. It's really fun. I hope you check it out. Please go check that out.
Starting point is 01:08:13 It's on YouTube. Yeah, that's right. It's been a site since 07. Right. Back in 2006. I hate to come through again with another fact there. Fuck! I don't think it would actually be magnetic.
Starting point is 01:08:30 It's actually not. Although it is a heavy metal, it is not magnetic like gold. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, that's right. So a friend of mine that also went to this wedding, Chase Mitchell, he went viral with a tweet about his flight. And actually, it's a very long thread, but I just want to read you the first two. First one is, dude beside me on this plane just tried to get me in an aisle seat to swap with his wife, who is in a middle seat.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Wife guys really must be stopped. And I don't appreciate the term wife guy. Yeah, come on. But then he wrote, I'm not going to do one of those like in-flight tweet threads on this dude. But I will say that he also forgot headphones and is now watching stuff on his phone at full volume,
Starting point is 01:09:17 which is some shit I have not seen before. And then Chase said he wrote that tweet after 25 minutes of that guy watching stuff on his phone. Wow. And then it was just footage of loud trumpets, he said. It might have been the footage from your wedding, Miles. I know.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Dude, I mean, that shit was. He's like, oh, you don't want to switch seats with me? That's fine. Oh, I guess I forgot my headphones. I guess I'll just watch this video. Yeah. switch seats with me that's fine oh i guess i forgot my headphones i guess i'll just watch this video yeah so then he was he just he just mentioned that they uh had started drinking heavily and that was it and then for hours for like the the next six hours there were no tweets and then uh when he finally got when he finally landed in philly he started tweeting about how the guy had
Starting point is 01:10:05 stolen his phone because he was like, he had some conspiracy theory and he thought that Chase was sending messages about him through his phone or something. Which he was. And then everyone confronted him on the flight.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Chase was like, do you have my phone? And he's like, no, I don't. And then the cops had to come get him off the plane at the end and they took chase up and they like asked him if he wanted to uh press charges and he didn't did he get his phone back i guess he got his phone back yeah he got his phone back where was it the guy had just taken it and then the guy really wow yeah like chase went to the bathroom and left his phone and then when he came back his phone wasn't there and then the guy went to the bathroom for like 20 minutes. And he was like, what is going on with my phone with that guy in the bathroom?
Starting point is 01:10:50 And yeah, he just he didn't. Oh, my God. Not until he was searched by the cops. I didn't realize that that because I saw that tweet, too. I didn't realize it ended with phone theft and cops having to come on the fucking plane. So then he rode the plane. He sat next to us on the plane ride home and tweeted a picture of him with the our baby just to be like i got a seat up great and then it's just really funny to see like viral twitter talk about your baby
Starting point is 01:11:16 right there's no contest right right but anyway check out that thread. It's hilarious. Well, the moral of that story, I think, is insanely drunk wife guys. Listen to your instincts because he was sending messages about that guy to Twitter. They weren't secret messages. He was. He was right. That's the thing. That's so funny.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Find Jack and i on miles and jack got mad boosties our nba podcast uh and also check me out on 420 day fiance with sophie alexandra talking 90 day fiance uh some tweets i like first one is from kim at kimmy monte tweeted my mother has a medical podcast where she self-diagnoses her ailments. It's called my voicemail and it happens every morning at 9. AM. Love that one.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Another one is from at Jay's ox trash. Jones tweeted Chicago style pizza implies the existence of AP style pizza. And as English nerd, I definitely laughed at that one. And the last one, Luke warm tweets at Luke Jared tweeted me. Actually that's Frankenstein's monster friend oh my bad puts energy drink down frankenstein don't sweat it bro that's great and actually frankenstein would not have that voice he would be more doctorly
Starting point is 01:12:42 because frankenstein is the doctor yeah just i had to get him back for you nick yeah no thank you we have a lead nerd and a frankenstein nerd now everything is right in the world let's see a tweet i've been enjoying patrick p-a-t-r-y-c tweeted in 1920 we took children out of the coal mines. In 2020, the most popular video game on the market is Minecraft. The children yearn for the mines. That is, there's something to that. They yearn for the mines.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Yeah, I got a four and six. Yo, shout out to the Dream Face Reveal. Do you guys see that? No. The most popular Minecraft YouTuber revealed his face. He was just a smiley face before. It's just hilarious
Starting point is 01:13:36 to see the internet have hundreds of thousands of opinions about just some kid's face. Just some guy. Some person's normal-ass face. Dude, just some some person's normal ass face yeah dude you couldn't look more normal in a way where it's like just don't reveal it don't build it up yeah it's a bunch of fucked up unhappy people and they're gonna like this fucking normcore fuck yeah people never they're never because that that a version of that happens with podcasts
Starting point is 01:14:08 where people start listening to your podcast and then look you up and you're never what they have in mind it's yeah you know what's weird about podcasts too because like no matter how many times i look up somebody's face it i still hear their voice more and i never get there you never connect the two like there's some shows where it's just like, I've looked up their face like 15 times. And every time I'm like, what? Look at those teeth.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Yeah. Not my Ira Glass. Actually, Ira Glass is the one podcaster that looks exactly like it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Oh, right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Hey, Miles, what's a song we think people might enjoy? Oh, you're gonna enjoy this one this is from a group called speed glue and shinky which is a like japanese psych rock band from the 70s and i'll fuck with them because like there's a lot of like half japanese guys in this group shinky is half chinese uh glue is half french and then speed is a filipino member of the band and they just make like when you listen to this stuff you're like damn this is like david axelrod kind of like like hip-hop sample worthy just band like you know like psych soul band shit from the 70s and this track is called don't say no and it's the 2017 remaster and like this is a band that
Starting point is 01:15:43 actually like blew up like well after the fact because they were just very obscure when they were around. Check this out. Speed, Glue, and Shinky with Don't Say No. Alright, well the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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