The Daily Zeitgeist - GOP “Attacks” On Ketanji Brown Jackson, ANOTHER Crypto Defector? 3.22.22
Episode Date: March 22, 2022In episode 1209, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, musician, author and host of Cold Brew Got Me Like Chris Crofton to discuss…The GOP ‘attacks’ on Ketanji Brown Jackson, Anoth...er Crypto Defector and more! The GOP ‘attacks’ on Ketanji Brown Jackson Why Ketanji Brown Jackson’s time as a public defender matters Another Crypto Defector PRE-ORDER: The Advice King Anthology by Chris Crofton LISTEN: SAOKO by RosaliaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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what day is it? National
3D Day. Yes.
Okay, so get out your blue and red
glasses and head to 7-Eleven
because Fox is gonna do something real
interesting this Sunday night. Oh my god.
With Smell-O-Vision. Remember that old
promotions in the 90s? Oh, I thought that was
something real that you were talking about
that was happening right now.
No, but do you remember
in the 90s,
they did like,
they would do like
certain episodes on TV
in 3D on Fox,
like on Sunday,
like the Simpsons
or in Living Color.
And then like,
you'd have to go to 7-Eleven
to get 3D glasses
or like a scratch
and sniff thing.
I never bought in, man.
I was a real cynical
ass little kid, you know?
I bought the fuck in, man. And was a real cynical-ass little kid, you know? I bought the fuck in, man.
And also, Jack, National West Virginia Day.
Hey!
Shout out to Wheeling.
Shout out to Wheeling, West Virginia.
Shout out to, yeah, just that city.
I can't really speak for the rest of the state, but Wheeling, which is just the very tippy top of that point that sticks up is a great town all right cool all right
well uh and shout out to 3d man i'm i'm you know i'm leading the bandwagon for avatar 2
yeah i think it's going to change a lot of people's minds hearts and uh lives this is what i'm
and our guest today has like an avatar themed microphone kind of it looks
like it could exist in the world of pandora don't fucking hate i would never play or hate the or no
hate the mic i can't remember how it goes i just found out about the saying i love it don't hate
the player hate the game there There it is. All right.
It's a new saying I just heard about.
A new saying that all the kids are saying.
Oh, yeah.
And they're also saying, I'm back on my bullshit.
That is a real one.
That is a real one.
I'm back on my bullshit over here.
Chris Crawford is back on his bullshit because he's our guest today, but we haven't announced that yet.
No, I'm going to be quiet again.
That's what's called a teaser.
Or is he?
Or is he? We don't know.
What if this was all
an elaborate tease and
a guess for somebody else?
I'm coy.
Hey, anyways, Chris,
my name is Jack O'Brien, aka
while switching from coffee to
matcha tea, it's kind of hard being
TDZ's Jack O'Bee.
That is courtesy of Chevy Spurbin.
And give me a chance to go back and watch the Gin and Juice music video, which is much funnier than I remembered.
Snoop plays a loser.
Well, he plays a loser slash a little kid, like a 13-year-old or something.
Like at the beginning, his mom's telling him he has
to get out of bed and then like they're leaving town and then she's like you have to get out of
the house and then he goes and rides bikes yeah there's also an implication of like of home alone
when his parents leave he turns the camera and does the home alone ah right it's really funny
and yeah just just amazing that that was Snoop's like,
all right, my first solo single.
Here's what we're going to do.
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always
by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
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All you listeners, eat your apples like this.
Start at the bottom, don't stop, Don't quit. All you listeners eat your apples like this. Start at the bottom. Don't stop.
Don't spit.
Just eat it.
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Eat it now.
Eat it good.
Eat that apple from the bottom like you shouldn't.
Okay.
Shout out to me.
Just thinking of my neck, my back, and eating apples from the bottom.
Oh, that was you?
That was all you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You are keeping it alive. Have you tried eating an apple from the bottom decided oh that was you that was all you yeah yeah you are keeping it alive you have
you tried eating an apple from the bottom yet because you seem it seems to have captivated
your imagination no i'm like a like a conservative who heard about gay marriage you know i'm like
what the heck they're doing what and just obsessed no first-hand experience only projecting my own
weird shit onto it and uh yeah living it like
that i my dad i gotta ask him i'm i meant to text him over the weekend and be like
kent would you consider eating an apple from the bottom just to see what the response would be
because i have a feeling he would be confounded if i had even mentioned the thing but and your
dad is your number one the number one apple eater in your life as number one apple eater in my life
apple of my eye.
And then you're just watching a bunch of videos
of people eating apples from the bottom
like a conservative.
They're like, this man who's against
eating apples from the bottom,
his hard drive says a completely different story.
It tells a different story.
Got terabytes of apple footy.
Miles, we have a guest.
We're always thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount
Zeitmore.
Also the face on the cover of his new book, No Big Deal, which looks like, I don't know,
it is a book that looks like it should exist on bookshelves.
It's a good looking book, I, is one way of saying it.
But it also just looks great.
Whoever designed it, A fucking plus.
I can tell you all about it.
Hey, well, you haven't been introduced yet, bro.
Oh, I forgot.
Hey, get behind the curtain.
Boz.
Get behind the curtain, Boz.
Oh, man.
He's a hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, musician,
with a highly rated album on Pitchfork.
I think I got it wrong last time.
Is it 7.6? 7.4.
7.4.
Just like a 15 from a normal fucking site.
Yeah, exactly.
You can listen to his podcast, Cold Brew Got Me Like.
You can also watch him stream it on Twitch with his fancy microphone.
Go order, pre-order his new book, The Advice King.
It's available for pre-order on a website called Amazon,
as well as probably better booksellers.
Hold on to your butts because the poetry window is open.
It's Chris motherfucking Crofton!
Wow!
That's so great.
That's so, man, you know you're doing well
When you get bored
During your own intro
Yeah you were picking your nails
And shit
My god
Man oh man
I got so many credits
That I almost fell asleep
During them
You started giving me
The wrap up
Yeah yeah
Motion
Right when I said
Hello the internet
And welcome to
Yeah
I don't
I wish I had a daily
I get it I wish I had a daily, I should have a daily.
Look, I get it.
I wish I had a, no, I wish I had an AKA, I was going to do an AKA, and then I settled down.
I was about to do my own fake AKA.
Oh, hell yeah.
From a guy named, you know, like, Crazy Squid or whatever.
Crazy Squid.
Yeah, Crazy, that's from Crazy Squid.
Like, you know, like.
Yeah, yeah.
Even flow.
You know.
Got Crofton on the tube. Yeah, yeah. like yeah yeah even flow uh you know got crofted yeah yeah like but it shouldn't be even flow it
have to be like internet flow you know something's horrible i can't yeah yeah i don't know
got me like yeah i didn't do it and also i've got to get away from cold brew got me like as a brand
because it's starting to starting to ruin you got those notes away from cold brew got me like as a brand because it's starting to ruin my life.
Well, you got those notes from Big Cold Brew on your podcast.
For a man who's had his life ruined by a cold brew meme, you would think that I would be sponsored.
But no, because I think everything happens by just me sitting around and waiting for people to call me up.
And you can see what happened to me.
I'm 52 years old. And cold brew no longer has you like? Cold brew still hasn't call me up. And you can see what happened to me. I'm 52 years old.
And cold brew no longer has you like?
Cold brew still hasn't called me up.
Well, you got to start tagging, Chris.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't even know what that is.
You got to join a hype house.
Or I do know what tagging is.
I'm not going to act like I don't know what tagging is.
I just don't know how to do it.
We were concerned.
I'm interested in it.
You're interested? I'm tag curious. I'm interested in tagging. I am. I just don't know. We were concerned. I'm interested in it. I'm interested. I'm
curious. I'm interested in tagging. I am. I just haven't been able to. I see the button
and I'm getting there. Hey, one step at a time. All right. Well, Chris, we're going
to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners
a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the Republican attacks, in quotes, on Kataji Brown Jackson.
Yeah, she's set to make history as the first black woman to serve as a Supreme Court justice.
And they got nothing, it would appear.
They got absolutely nothing.
They got a mirror.
They're just, they're accusing her of being like a dark money shill.
So we'll talk about that we'll talk about
the the front page of time magazine has the creator of ethereum so another one of these like
leading crypto minds and he's like oh it's bad
you know we're hearing from a lot of people who understand crypto because like that is not me i
don't understand all the ins and outs i did watch that feature length explainer line goes on it
the line goes up i've read a bunch of articles the new york times even had like a thing in their
business section over the weekend i was like here's the guide to crypto for all you
late comers it's like a flow chart which should you buy like wait a month so jackson palmer co-creator
of dogecoin uh we we talked about his opinion on yesterday's episode that crypto has a has a
problem of just immediately gravitating towards the right. And now we have this dude who's like the creator of the number two,
I think, cryptocurrency.
Ethereum.
Ethereum.
And he has some grave concerns.
We'll talk about those, all of that, plenty more.
But before we get to any of that shit, Chris,
we do like to ask our guests,
and we particularly like to ask you what is something
from your search history well it's funny because i've lately like i've run out of weird shit to
like i'm like now googling like weird shit like i'm out of i'm out of all the... I was going to talk about the Dyatlov Pass.
Do you guys know about the Dyatlov Pass?
I do.
See, it's like the Dyatlov Pass is like the...
I don't know, like the Allman Brothers of the...
Weird, you know what I mean?
It's like everybody knows.
Oh, Jesus.
That's not right.
Just because we know about it doesn't mean our listeners know about it.
I think we talked about that last time.
But did we talk about Dyatlov Pass last time?
No, we didn't.
I'm pretty sure.
I know the three of us have discussed the Dyatlov Pass.
Did we talk about the sex position I made up called Dyatlov Pass?
Okay.
No.
Now, is that what happened when you Googled weird shit?
It's just a bunch of people in a tent.
But Dyatlov Pass, for those of you who don't know, is, like,
a bunch of Russian
hikers, like, in the 1970s
ended up just, like, getting fucking...
Well, they died.
In mysterious circumstances. But they also ended up, like,
dead, like, in ways that were just, like, totally
crazy, like, you know, like, spread out
over, like, a huge amount of space
and, like, all of them had different injuries and some
of them were, like, naked and stuff. So, anyway anyway that that i just think it's funny that i've gotten
into the like i'm the same i'm like the atloth past like i'm doing cold brew got me like the
podcast and i like to talk about something strange you know and i realized that i'm into i've i've
talked about all the strange things and now i'm into hack strange things like hey have you guys
heard about the philadelphia experiment right now they're like no way how about the rendlesham forest incident they're all incidents
uh is that the is that the like british military ufo yes everybody knows it's horrible it's like
after it's like nothing just like it's like the year punk broke it's like when nirvana broke
it's a nightmare it's like because now the history. It's like when Nirvana broke.
It's a nightmare.
It's like,
cause now the history channel's got all this shit on blast.
If that's the right thing to say.
Yeah.
On blast.
Young man.
Miles,
do you know,
I mean, I'm kind of a UFO head though,
which is a cool thing to call yourself,
but Miles,
do you know about that?
The forest incident?
Rendlesham?
No.
My boyfriend's a UFO head.
Oh, cool.
That's awesome.
Sounds great.
How's that?
You're hanging out with her fucking boyfriend.
I bet brunch is a blast.
Rendlesham Forest, you know what I'm talking about.
Wait, so what's the Rendlesham, Harry and the Hendersons Forest?
Rendlesham Forest is like a very believable UFO sighting
where like this little fucking UFO that was pretty small actually went around in the woods in England. And like a bunch ofvable UFO sighting where like this little fucking UFO, it was pretty small, actually went around in the woods in England and like a bunch of people
tailed it.
And like these guys were running around and they have it all on audio.
Like they have audio from the recordings of like what's happening,
walking,
talking transmissions back then on like a reel to reel or something.
But again,
it's,
it's one of these things that you see in some of the
ufo encounters where it's not a thing where somebody's just happens to be walking in the
forest and like encounters a bright light like both this and the example of the tic-tac where
like the fighter jets were scrambled out to see it like they the ufos were there for a while and so like that's why they
were recording because they went out there to be like there is something very strange going on
there's like all these weird lights that are like floating through the forest and we are a military
base that i believe had like nuclear capabilities maybe not but it's a great story yeah it's an
unbelievable story but i would say it's true unless they were
making unless some like the idea is everybody says it's a weather balloon you know but that's
kind of like nobody believes that everyone knows that's a right like a tiny weather balloon a cover
story yeah this is like yeah like there's unless the burning unless the government was like created
a tiny little ufo that yeah like burnt trees and like traveled around in the woods which seems like
there's no way that that's not a military thing.
They're not trying to explore the woods.
The military loves a goof.
The military loves a goof.
They're not trying to explore the woods.
Yeah.
The military doesn't want to check out the woods.
I've said that three times.
That's cold brew.
That's what I was going to say.
Okay.
So what I've gotten into is I still watch abandoned mine videos because they reliably find stuff and i am sick of i watched i watched curse of oak island for fucking seasons
you know but i watched it on the bootleg version where it's all wavy on youtube like where they
have to shrink the screen and stuff right you know what i mean like it's like like a couple cents
yeah like a bunch of swirlies like swirly patterns on the side of the screen or something.
And they do kind of do the show backwards.
Yeah.
Anyway.
So Oak Island hasn't found anything in like nine seasons.
I give them credit for,
you know,
trying,
but I'm tired of it.
And at least that the abandoned mines,
they find a glove.
They're still delivering.
Oh,
they'll find like a,
yeah.
Like a Prince Albert tobacco tin.
Yeah.
You know,
reliably.
Yeah. Right. And that makes me feel, feel. Yeah. The first time Chris came on, like a Prince Albert tobacco tin. Reliably.
And that makes me feel artifact.
The first time Chris came on, he was talking about mudlarking, then people
fishing around in rivers, I believe,
at one point.
What a disrespectful way to describe
magnet fishing.
Magnet fishing, my bad.
People fishing around in rivers.
It's only one of the top
sports in the world.
But I feel like we're slowly honing in on.
We're slowly honing in on.
Did you not see the Olympics?
The pay dirt.
Yeah.
Magnet fishing.
Magnet fishing.
Yeah, they stock the pond.
They stock it with like wrenches and lawn chairs.
That's all they ever find is fucking lawn chairs and wrenches and they're always like
pretty good day yeah and i'm like no it wasn't a good day you know like you're if you think a good
day is finding a lawn chair and a wrench uh i found three wrenches but they're like on the
upside we got drunk i mean it's just like regular fishing like it doesn't matter what you catch it's
just about how drunk you get it's about the it's about the friends you make i'm having a premonition
uh or whatever it's called when you think you've had this exact conversation before.
But is there a...
It makes me sad.
We've had this conversation with Crofter before.
Well, we've just done so many shows, my brain is broken.
But is there a genre where people go into garbage dumps and, dig through garbage dumps and like evaluate our trash
that would be interesting to me well they definitely wouldn't be evaluating it because
people like that don't they don't just hold it up at the case of the camera like they don't say
anything about like a store most of the time they're just like oh look look at this fucking
thing high chair for a baby this is probably old or maybe it's not. Oh, but I think it is.
Well, it might not be though.
Could be contemporary,
but I'm pretty sure it's old
or maybe it's not.
That's pretty much the whole thing.
But yes,
people go to the dump
and find dump cans.
Like they'll find old beer cans
like from,
because stuff in the dump.
They're like searching for treasure,
essentially.
Yeah, but I mean,
yeah,
you can find,
I mean,
dumps are,
I'd like to go to the dump.
We all know the old adage. I'd like to go to the dump. I mean, come on, we all know the old adage.
I'd like to go to the dump.
They never let me in.
They said I need a license or something.
There's this Arizona, like, sociologist, I think is what his profession is called.
To determine things about, like, modern America based on our garbage, which is, like, the only actually democratic, like, way to evaluate people is through their garbage.
Because everybody gets their garbage collected by usually the state or, you know.
Well, there's two things about garbage. First of all, I read a thing where you have hot dogs have so many preservatives in them that you can find a hot dog from the 1950s
in the landfill that's totally fine.
Yeah.
I don't know if anyone's ever eaten it
because I know there's that guy,
New England Wildlife and More,
who eats old food,
but I've never...
He should do a thing where he goes to the dump
and actually eats food out of the dump,
but that's a recommendation
for New England Wildlife and More
if he's watching.
He also unclogs culverts. He has a's watching. He also unclogs culverts.
He has a whole separate channel devoted to unclogging culverts.
Like he, this has been brought to my attention by other people, like people like who listen
to Cold Brew Got Me Like, you know, they're like, stop talking about the Dyatlov Pass
and start talking about the fact that your man, New England Wildlife and more, the guy
who eats old food from the 1930s but couldn't get it during the pandemic because they canceled the state sales.
That man, when he couldn't get the old food, started unclogging culverts.
And he has a girlfriend.
And they go together.
And it turns out a culvert is a pipe.
I thought a culvert was like a little ditch or something.
A culvert is the name of the actual pipe that goes under a road.
Right, right, right. New England Wildlife and More is obsessed with culverts. And he camped out on a culvert is the name of the actual pipe that goes under a road right new angle wildlife and more is obsessed with culverts and he camped out on the culvert
he put a tent on top of the pipe and he's like i'm camping out on top of a culvert it's right
underneath me but he was like it was like an achievement like it's like but he's genuine you
know what i mean he's not doing this as a stunt he's passionate about pipes like he likes pipes
like the pipe he's like it's right underneath me. He's passionate about pipes. Like he likes pipes like the pipe.
He's like, it's right underneath me.
I'm on top of the culvert.
And you're like, that's so confusing.
But then you realize this is what life's about.
Yeah.
You know, finding the thing that gets you.
Stop trying to make a billion dollars and go to the moon and start getting excited about pipes.
Yes.
I mean, that is literally almost word for word what i have written later in the
doc because i swear to god because like the fact that crypto is now has now democratized
people's ability to make their job like finding ways to game like little markets and so now we
have even more brain power just being dumped into fucking bullshit and like
gambling markets essentially instead of unclogging culverts or building a new clover that doesn't
need to be unclogged and sometimes like lakes have drains in them like i right i don't know
if you've ever seen that i don't know what that's all about i haven't gotten into it but he likes
unclogged drains and he's like when the when the drain goes, he's like so pumped. And he has a girlfriend who's into it.
It creates a whirlpool.
I mean,
I don't have a girlfriend.
And this culvert guy,
this guy who's got some woman who'll go with him to unclog culverts.
Sounds like you need to switch it up.
Yeah.
Nailed it.
That's just like,
he must be wonderful in bed.
That's all I can say.
You got a girl who's willing to come in bed. That's all I can say.
You got a girl who's willing to come with you.
He's all right.
I mean, I do have to spend a lot of time with pipes.
He likes to unclog pipes.
He doesn't have a whole lot of money.
He sold food, you know.
He's all right, though.
He's nice.
So, yeah.
So, he unclogs pipes. He also camps out in an abandoned motel.
Like, he's like, there's an abandoned motel right near this pipe I want to unclogs pipes. He also camps out in an abandoned motel.
He's like, there's an abandoned motel right near this pipe I want to unclog.
And so he stayed in the abandoned motel with a space heater in the room.
And he kept saying what temperature it was.
He was like, it's still 40 degrees in here even with the heater.
So, yeah, and he has a girlfriend with him during that.
Just like, and he has a girlfriend. It's that, you know. Just like, and he has a girlfriend.
Like, you know, it's like, my goodness, these people are in love.
And that's the kind of love I want.
Yeah.
I want the love where we both are insane.
Yes.
I just want to unclog shit.
Someone said that's the only kind of love.
Yeah. What is something you think is overrated?
I was going to say, well, I have some miserable shit. Like, I was going to say I'm overrated i was gonna say well i have some miserable shit
like i was gonna say i'm overrated as america right which i know is tiresome but i was just
thinking about the fact that when i was working at the wine bar where i work i overheard these
people saying that they thought the war in ukraine was a like on purpose to to make the republicans lose the midterms which is like america needs
somebody to fucking slap the fucking shit out of it like it needs somebody the fact that america
has been i don't know why but like i guess because it's remote and because canada canada and mexico
are nice right you know they we haven't been attacked.
Yeah.
So that's, Americans have figured out,
they have decided that we're just like,
we just get to watch everything,
like, and comment on it.
Like, we're just like exempt from reality.
I mean, that just the idea that everything connects to us,
like, I mean, Americans truly think,
I understand every culture
probably thinks their culture is probably the only culture i mean there's a certain amount of that
that's just like you know built into people so they don't you know so they can take care of
themselves that is a like stereotype outside of america about america though like i don't think
i don't think everybody has the same sickness right yeah i mean i just think that that that was the
that's that's all you need to know about america how how lost it is because it's just been like
allowed to pretty much party since world war ii you know i mean i know you know it's really just
been a non-stop party around here it's just shopping and popping bottles and whatever the
fuck else is going on around here and you know people have decided that we're exempt from reality and like uh and that and everything in the whole globe has
to do with like whether or not the republicans are gonna win or whether the liberals of america
are affecting like our control like nancy pelosi started the war in ukraine basically i mean they're
saying that they're like ukraine is just a front for Hunter Biden.
That's the only reason it exists, so he can have a job.
That's what they're saying.
That's why it was invented before America.
How disrespectful can you fucking get to 40 million people living in Ukraine
than to say that the only reason they're even a country is because Hunter Biden needs a job?
I mean, you've gone fucking crazy crazy and i'm tired of hearing it yeah it's just the it's
just the way that you know because they're speaking they're speaking to people who don't
aren't informed so you know especially like when you hear people talk like that it's like the the
their news is like the equivalent of like some guy who just got back from his first semester of
college and took some psych classes it was like like, here's the thing you got to know.
And people were just like, yeah, yeah.
Of course, I would never say this to people who actually know about this topic.
I'm going to say it to you because y'all are dumber than me.
And that's how we keep this party going.
Right.
And it's just because America, for some reason,
has not had any other country arrive on its soil.
And the Ukraine thing, Ukraineraine thing the war you know
is putting a little dent casting a little paw on their party you know like they're it's ruining
their party a little bit because they don't quite know what to do with oh nancy the only reason that
vladimir putin is like slaughtering civilians is because of the midterms.
Even they're like, eh, that doesn't sound that good.
That doesn't sound right, man.
Let's just go to the gas station and put Joe Biden stickers on the pumps.
That's probably their most effective form of campaigning.
Yeah, and it's distracting from that.
The only good thing is that.
It's like we have high gas prices.
Yeah, but we're not getting we're not getting fucking killed.
You know, and it's like there is a little bit of like steam out of there.
It makes me happy that happy is the wrong word.
I guess, you know, just it makes me feel like maybe these people will come around to reality.
But the problem is that they they won't because they're just not aren't interested in coming around to reality because it's all that's why there has to be.
And there doesn't have to be anything.
This is like me going back to like I'm always like on the show being like, remember when I did the live show and I accidentally said that's why 9-11 had to happen or whatever.
To make to make Trey Parker and Matt Stone stop dressing in drag at the MTV Music Video Awards or whatever.
You're just speculating that Bush did 9-11.
That's why.
I did not speculate about that.
Oh, man.
And rehabbing of George W. Bush is driving me fucking insane.
That motherfucker drops a wreath on a Ukrainian fucking.
Why is Obama hanging out with fucking George?
No, it was Clinton.
But it doesn't
matter it's all the same but george w bush is a war criminal like i mean without a doubt the
man did the same thing that we were lamenting in ukraine to fucking iraq and the only reason
people aren't upset about iraq is because the ukrainians look like they are white basically i mean it's there's so much fucking bad shit going
on i am like only hoping and i know it's it's probably not going to happen but that it will
bring some people around to like would you shut up about gas prices you fucking assholes right i
mean i'm not saying it's not a real thing yeah i understand if i don't know if you're if you're a
person who has no money and
you're all of a sudden your gas is doubled i mean that's a big fucking deal but yeah but the thing
is that's what the but that's the you know why i can like why both parties are so good at this
shit is because they find someone who's about to put it together and they throw some other shit in
front of them say well it's not that don't all right well don't don't arrive at the right
conclusion that's why they're going full Steve ahead on the abortion thing.
That's why they're doing this nonsense with the book banning.
It's all the same fucking tricks over and over again.
Hey, don't pay attention to the fact that, you know, that.
What's actually happening.
It's this other false problem that we'll say we're solving.
I went on this wrestler's Facebook one time, this guy named uh dutch mantel and dutch dutch mantel is a guy who
was a wrestler in the in memphis in the tennessee in the memphis as opposed to memphis egypt he was
in memphis tennessee in the 80s 1980s and uh anyway i just he's conservative you know like
all these guys who are born you know whatever he was self-made he was born in a shoebox or whatever
and he trained and punched a bunch of meat or something you know i mean like these stories
they have you know i invented myself as a wrestler i came from nothing i was born small i was a baby
i grew myself up you know it's crazy no that's what everybody does i grew myself up and it got
larger my feet got big a small baby yeah i was born as i fucking grew myself up and it got larger. My feet got big. You're a small baby.
Yeah.
I was born as a small baby.
I fucking grew myself up, got some bigger feet, got some boots on them, went down, left the house.
Not like these kids today.
And stay in the house all the time.
So anyway, he became a wrestler, which is not exactly like.
Anyway, he's got one of those self-made stories.
So I want to check his Facebook out because he was putting a saying a bunch of stuff on Twitter about that was crazy.
You know, like the war Pelosi started the war in Ukraine or whatever.
And I looked at his Facebook and this guy, I saw what these people want.
Their news is completely crazy.
Yeah, like completely. they're looking at the
news their news is crazy like it has nothing to do with real news at all and they get it
in a big stack that looks just like regular news like my news right and except it's all from the
like crazy time times or the we're in big trouble dot or whatever. And there's just a fucking stack of bullshit.
But this is what this guy thinks is happening.
So he's like, oh, my God.
Right.
Like Joe Biden fell down the stairs at the Eiffel Tower today.
And his pants fell down.
This is our president falling down the stairs of the Eiffel Tower and having his butt cheeks out.
And the video is just a cartoon yeah yeah they are all like i can't believe it what's he even doing there he should be back in america he's in fucking he's in the eiffel tower eating soup
the ultimate betrayal look at him oh my god spy cam footage of Biden. It doesn't look like Biden, really.
All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and hear what you think is underrated.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together,
we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths
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have been impacted, just like mine.
Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members
and new, chilling firsthand accounts,
the series will illuminate untold
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It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
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This summer, the nation watched
as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.
These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI
in a violent revolutionary underground.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer.
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I feel really whole.
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And Chris, as you know, we also like to ask our guest, what is something you think is underrated?
Growing up in Connecticut, you know, they fucking groom you to be a goddamn stockbroker.
And they're like, listen, man, take it.
Take it.
It's your fucking birthright.
Take it.
It's the money.
It's no fun, but you get money.
It's no fun to be a stockbroker.
I don't like it either, but you got to take it because that's the deal.
You take it. I'm't like it either, but you got to take it because that's the deal you take it I'm giving you the key son
You fucking you know you fucking white Connecticut boy. Here's your key to the fucking white money
Take it. It's no fun, but you get the money. You know what I mean? And I was like, I don't want the money
I don't know why you know, I want to be be an artist they're like you you want to be an artist
you want to break the chain of mediocrity you won't take the key to the stockbroker money
you know and they're so mad well get out of here you piece of shit you're a disgrace to the white
race you stock broke like the rest of us and if you try and have fun you will pay yeah so i fucking
did it i tried to have fun and so for 30 years i had to be like them be they those motherfuckers
like tucker carlson's the people i'm talking about these people who are actual white supremacists
yeah disguised as traditionalists or whatever they like to call themselves like we're just
in for into western civilization or whatever that shit. That's Connecticut.
All those people are like, man,
you do the thing. You keep things
going. You keep the money with us.
And if you don't do it,
there's a real sense of that.
You are supposed to take that
fucking entry into the company
that they're giving you. And if you don't,
they get very angry because they say,
oh, you're trying to do some different
shit, huh? And blow the whole fucking racket.
You're trying to tell people what's up.
You fucking stop broke.
Yeah.
Think of boring mafia.
It's insane. Yeah. And then you fucking get
to get drunk all the time. And that's the
trade-off. Because that's the only thing
we find acceptable. You can get drunk as shit
and barf all over someone's china set. You can go to someone's fucking Thanksgiving and fuck the turkey on the table. And that's the only thing we find acceptable you can get drunk as shit and bar if all everybody's someone china set you can go to someone's fucking thanksgiving and fuck the
turkey on the table and that's okay as long as it's related to drinking they'll send you to rehab
and fucking martha's vineyard but you have to you know anyway you have to accept your birthright of
boredom and money and and money and white fucking bullshit.
So listen to me.
I don't want to talk about fucking race.
But it is appropriate because fucking these people have a – they really associate this with race.
They don't talk about it, but fucking Tucker Carlson is letting the cat out of the bag in a big way.
Because there's many more like Tucker Carlson.
He's not some aberration.
They just don't usually yell it on TV. they're probably mad at him for fucking blowing it you know they're
like fuck man yeah anyway so telling these people after they've treated me like an outcast ever
since then they're like oh here comes this guy who tried to be an artist you know like how's it
going 50 year old you enjoying your life in the fucking gutter or wherever you live you fucking here comes this guy who tried to be an artist. You know, like, how's it going, 50-year-old?
You enjoying your life in the fucking gutter or wherever you live?
You fucking, you know, you piece of shit.
You low-life, non-stockbroker, fucking I'm going to have a good time in life, motherfucker.
And then you go, I got a book coming out on Vanderbilt.
Because there's only like three things those motherfuckers value.
And that's like a stiff gin and tonic.
And like a really good golf handicap.
And good schools.
Which are, of course, also diploma mills for rich people.
Right.
And, you know, Vanderbilt University is one of the things they value.
And so I get to tell those motherfuckers that I got a book coming out on Vanderbilt University and all they got is a nine bedroom house.
Yeah.
And you know what, though?
It makes them real mad.
Yeah.
Because you know what?
My book's going to be on bookshelves forever.
Right next to the Bible.
Right next to the Bible.
That was actually part of your contract.
That's what I said.
It's got to sit next to the Bible. Right next to the Bible. That was actually part of your contract. It's a theological. That's what I said. It's got to sit next to the Bible.
Right next to the Bible.
That's why it's called the bad vice bing bankthology.
So anyway, fucking these people are mad and they don't get it because they know that their nine bedroom house is going to crumble.
And they're going to be just a face, a blank tombstone that says,
Stockbroker Man, 000 to 000.
And I'm going to be on the shelf with the Bible, and it makes them very mad,
and they also just wonder what Vanderbilt I'm talking about.
It's so much fun.
It's so much fun to say I got a book coming out on Vanderbilt because they're like,
Really?
It's really like I said, I just
commandeered your boat or something.
It's the same thing. I've now taken
possession of your boat. I'm the captain now.
Yeah, I've taken your boat. You don't have a boat anymore.
I own it. Yeah, your boat,
Lucy's Folly,
that huge boat you have
parked in Westport, Connecticut. Yeah,
that's mine now. I own it.
And I will be sailing it.
And I also am taking possession of your nine-bedroom house.
That's the next move.
The Bice Bing Banthology.
Yeah, yeah.
Next to the Bully Bible.
Anyway, I was just thinking, I just can't underrate it as telling rich people that you have shit coming out on Vanderbilt University when they thought you were a sleazebag your whole life.
There you go.
Just because you weren't a stockbroker. You're not sleazebag you're just not a stockbroker and they're like yeah oh mr oh mr freedom yeah oh mr wants to
have a fun life and ruin everything and ruin western civilization yeah that feels surprisingly
close to like the like when you read histories of like the cia or like people and skull and
bones yeah like what they would say like word for word to each other like it's a very serious
it's not like an unspoken thing that they don't consciously think out loud no western civilization
is something those people consider to be handed down right through those societies through fucking
you know whatever it's just through lacrosse teams and
through all these like what does lacrosse have to do with anything you know what i mean well it all
brings us back to the diatlov pass uh which i think no we need to we need to talk about what's
happening in the news okay let's talk about the republican party's attacks on katanji brown jackson set to make history as the
first black woman to serve as a supreme court justice and yeah they don't really have shit
so they're they're coming with the she is funded by dark money which is pretty fucking wild coming
from a party that is basically doing the bidding of a handful of like a hundred really wealthy people at this point?
Yeah, well, I mean, this is the thing, you know, like she's she's eminently qualified.
She has more experience even for sitting justices, judicial experience than for sitting justices.
So, yeah, the attacks aren't going to really be on the merits at all.
It's just going to be to find a way to maybe get some whip up some outrage, get some people out
there to say like, oh, this is bad because dark money thing. So first off McConnell,
the second that she was announced, Mitch McConnell said, quote, she was the favorite choice of far
left dark money groups that have spent years attacking the legitimacy and structure of the court itself. Dark money groups attack? I think I've heard that before. Laura
Ingram, even before she was announced, said whoever Biden's pick would be, quote, the product of a
shady network of dark money groups that are working to subvert, not just to change or add to our
judiciary, but to change our entire system of government and, frankly, our entire way of life.
And, you know, again, just to check their resumes really quick.
OK, Mitch McConnell, yeah, you were big in undermining campaign finance stuff.
You're a big fan of Citizens United.
OK, you're the lord of conservative dark money entering Congress.
Check. Ingram also works for a Koch-funded dark money group and is still very tied closely to that group.
So it's one of these things like you're saying they're just they just all they can do is just project. And it just sounds so absurd.
Now, here's the thing. That's not to say that there aren't Democrat dark money groups. There fucking are. Yeah, I know very well uh about these groups but in terms of like the
judicial fight they haven't been around as long especially not the ones conservatives are pointing
to as long as like the conservative sort of judicial reform groups that exist the funny
thing is like if anything the democratic groups are just like modeling what the right has been
doing they're like okay so this is how we're going to fight over the constitution through this arena
okay now this i guess we all have to fight over the Constitution through this arena.
OK, now this I guess we all have to move like that. So just to pile on to the irony of this, the dark money line of attack is being amplified and funded by dark money.
No, they're right. So it's yeah, it's just a very, very, very frustrating moment because, again, I think the other things that make a lot of people scared of her on the right or not scared of the reason they see like, oh, this person is has their head on straight.
Is it she spent her time as a public defender?
Yeah.
And that's rare.
The last Supreme Court justice who was a public defender was fucking Thurgood Marshall.
So that's the last time,
because everything is like this prosecutor to judge pipeline.
There's a report from the Center for American Progress
that only about 1% of all federal appellate judges
spent the majority of their careers as public defenders.
Yeah.
8% of all federal judges are former public defenders.
That means the 92% are coming from, you know,
I like to lock up poor people background. And now I'm the judge who decides what sentences are.
When you look at the fact that one of, if not the biggest problem that we have as a
society is the caging of human beings, the like unprecedented, like a historic
like unprecedented like a historic caging of human beings like her you know nomination and confirmation feel like way way more important because like that's yeah it makes sense that
we have that problem when everybody who moves up is a prosecutor and like being a prosecutor is the
only way you can get rewarded so that i mean i don't I don't think I realized how rare it was until you put the story together.
How nasty can you be as a prosecutor? Because then we want that mindset into the people who are determining sentencing and keeping up the prison industrial complex, essentially. the thing is they see you know you know for katonji brown jackson she inherently understands
the need for public defenders especially when people of color black people intersect with the
legal system she's like this is this they can they will fucking treat you like subhuman do whatever
they can just to get a verdict and then move on to the next thing without any consideration of what
the facts are and like due process and i think that's why you see like the lines of questioning that she's faced from conservatives
in her past confirmation hearings. They like weaponize the fact that she's like defended
people who like had no like legal recourse, because that's like one of the few things
guaranteed in the constitution, which is like, well, if you can't defend yourself,
a public defender will be appointed to like handle your case and so they ask her stuff
like you know because she's she's represented people who are like in git mode they're like do
you so do you agree with 9-11 terrorists that you've represented or the fact that she's a public
defender opens up to lines of questions like are you soft on crime and you think criminals should
be released basically like immediately and that's your idea of how like society Works and it's just fucking
Disgusting I mean luckily she's
Used to dealing with this kind of racist bullshit
So she's you know I think last
Recently she was asked like did you ever
Participate in a riot
Is what someone asked
And she's like no
It's not serious and the problem with
You know you've got
Dark money
Everywhere because of citizens united
so yeah you know until we get money out of politics it's almost impossible to even be
invested in this stuff without getting just depressed and and and and to fight that depression
and to try to be engaged and to really elect people who care is such a such a Herculean task, you know, to like go against all this all this money.
It seems like a waste. I mean, it really is like close to like throwing your hands up, because when you see what they did to how they blocked Obama's appointee, whatever his name was.
how they blocked obama's appointee whatever his name was and yeah he was now the attorney general who i'm not a fan of really what he's doing you know anyway i just think it's it's really hard to
um none of this is serious like republicans are not serious they're they're fucking all because
they're all paid for they're all just like guys that are just and women who are just paid to be incendiary and to distract from
reality and to use terms like court packing which is just like fucking thing they came up with in a
fucking focus group you know or whatever you know it's like yeah this huge this great term for
something that needs to happen or else we're just going to have like half the country being ignored
because the supreme court is mostly conservative i I mean, it's just all.
But the main thing is the way they treated, the way they confirmed Coney Barrett in five seconds,
the way they ignored the real evidence about Kavanaugh and let this guy say he loves to drink beer 50 times during his fucking confirmation hearing.
You can't even say that in any job interview.
And then you have the audacity to question someone who has more judicial experience. Yes.
So to see them doing this, I think even they know this is not going
to work because it's so transparent. But it's depressing to see.
Yeah. And it's all because of dark money. Yeah. Where this
goes, I mean, it potentially, you know, I think there have been write-ups
sort of talking
about this sort of this appointment and how really now that the supreme court is really just a place
for for for the left and the right to argue over what the actual constitution is that's all this
that's all the supreme court's been like sort of distilled down to it's like no this is where we
come with our competing definitions of the constitution and how that works. So we can use that to sort of dictate what the laws are based on the decisions made by these
justices. And yeah, it's not really to ensure equitable outcomes because yeah, once the money's
involved, it's more, it makes more sense for these people who run industries that are, you know,
invested in destroying the environment and things like that. It's like, well, if i have these politicians here they'll think that the the real tug of war is over this
shit and not the fact that we're just extracting massive amounts of profit from the earth while
also screwing it up or any other industry maybe you're making weapons or whatever but
it's been yeah it's been effective to the point that yeah i get it chris you're like what the
fuck well also white christian fundamentalism is all running through that not by accident like the federalist society and opus dei whatever the
hell that is like they're like these religious orders that produce judges and they funnel them
directly to trump and that's how we end up with like amy coney barrett who's like in a fucking
cult who's now a supreme court justice yeah i mean and you've got these people who are actually
think they can,
they're actually excited about the end of the world.
So they're,
they don't care about fucking people dumping shit and fucking streams or
anything else that,
you know what I mean?
Like they're like,
yeah,
go ahead,
destroy the environment.
It's great because then Jesus will come back because the environment's
supposed to be fucked up during the brimstone times.
Like they're like,
this air is supposed to be full of brimstone,
but if it has to be like.
You know.
Fucking.
Industrial waste.
That'll be the same.
I love that they're trying to trick God.
They're just like.
We're just going to create the conditions.
Can we hurry this up God?
Can we.
God look.
Look.
Brimstone.
He's like.
I said fucking brimstone.
Not NO2 and methane.
But he's going to look down.
He's going to be like.
Listen.
I don't.
It looks like brimstone to me.
Let's go.
Let's start.
Let's start the rapture.
They read revelations. And just started just started doing the wrap it up sign.
Like, can we get this going?
The U.S. Embassy's in the right city.
The fucking, the sky is black.
I say let's start the fucking rapture.
Bring it on home.
We tricked God.
And that is a quote from Chris Crofton that you can take out of context any time you want.
What did I say something bad
i don't know what happened but no totally fine yeah i mean it's it's it's insane because there
is a healthy part of the republican party that thinks that chaos is good because it will trick
god into thinking it's time for the revelation for this for the encore that is that is such a
big problem if you have people who are
nihilists on the supreme court and i believe there are because christian the christian end
times philosophy is just nihilism redressed right and it's thinking that these people are
fucking sexually frustrated because of christianity they want to be torn limb from limb right you
think mike pence doesn't want to be torn limb from limb or like mike he'd give his right arm right i mean that's a joke as i give his right arm to be torn limb from limb wait but
then you're tearing yourself limb from limb see yeah but you know these these people want like
the rapture is the closest they're going to get to a hand job basically right right
mike pence is like i can't wait till a chariot runs over my dick a flaming chariot
those horsemen sound sexy
there's four of them?
yeah fuck that sounds like too many for me to fight off
let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about other
aspects of the apocalypse we find ourselves in
apocalypse we find ourselves in. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member
of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have
Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
and LA-based Shekinah Church,
an alleged cult that has impacted members
for over two decades.
Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths
between high-control groups and interview dancers,
church members, and others whose lives and careers
have been impacted, just like mine.
Through powerful, in-depth interviews
with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives.
Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart
Podcasts.
When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.
Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Girl, yes.
Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Think of us as your work besties
you can turn to for advice.
And if we don't know the answer,
we bring in experts who do,
like resume specialist Morgan Saner.
The only difference between the person
who doesn't get the job
and the person who gets the job
is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like
you miss a hundred percent of the shots you never take? Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better
than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years
of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the
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This summer, the nation watched
as the Republican nominee for president
was the target of two assassination attempts
separated by two months.
These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago
when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer.
This is Rip Current.
Available now with new episodes every Thursday.
Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce.
I'm Danielle Robay.
And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day.
Every weekday, we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us.
Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her.
It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned, of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not.
Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh, wow.
It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that.
If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you.
No worries.
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and we're back and this is just a quick one we we had talked i was i was surprised to read in an article about how crypto and you know nfts and just blockchain monetary value tends to flow rightward.
I was surprised to read a quote from the co-creator of Dogecoin saying,
after years of studying it, I believe the cryptocurrency is an inherently right-wing,
hyper-capitalistic technology built primarily to amplify the wealth of its proponents
through a combination of tax avoidance, diminished regulatory oversight, and artificially enforced scarcity.
So that's one of the big creators being like, oh, this isn't good.
But one of the top two minds in crypto, the creator and founder of Ethereum,
whose name is Vitalik Buterin, created Ethereum,
which is now the second most valuable crypto behind Bitcoin is basically saying I'll just read a direct quote from him he's on the cover of Time magazine and it basically says the print headline is the prince of crypto has some concerns and he's saying if we don't exercise our voice the only thing that the only things that get built are the things that are immediately profitable. And those are often far from what's actually the best for the world. It's like quick profits. There's no oversight. There's nothing steering it in a direction that is like high minded or, you know, the reasons he initially got involved and like has been this like visionary in this industry was because he was interested in like doing, you know, having crypto backed elections and things like that that just made things less centralized more secure and it's it's just
first of all the the if we don't exercise our voice caveat at the beginning of his thing is
feels pretty weak to me because it's you know vague as fuck but also sounds a lot like just
reminds me of like the early days of you know know, social media with like Mark Zuckerberg and like, don't be evil being Google's motto.
And it's just like, we've got to exercise our voice.
But like, what is, like at the very like cellular, like basic level, the thing that the engine that is driving crypto is the profit motive and the
thing that he is objecting to is the profit motive which is also wild because that time magazine
issue was released as an nft yeah yeah yeah it's just like so weird too because he's like man that's
the just the dystopian potential for crypto and blah blah blah and then it's like yeah yeah they'll
exploit this uh album this this magazine cover it also be an nft for someone to buy too but that's cool nfts man
the whole thing is just like fucking just more ways for rich people it ends up i think this guy
i understand this guy probably thought this was like a i mean it's like nirvana thinking like
when they started playing you know they thought that this was going to cause a revolution and
people would stop
being hair metal bands and everybody be more,
everybody be more real,
you know,
but it got co-opted,
you know,
then next thing you know,
there's runways.
It gets co-opted.
Yeah.
There's like grunge fashion models,
like,
you know,
fashion week in Paris.
Right.
It's like the same,
it's like,
you know,
it's like the idea that crypto would be a different or democratizing
currency,
but instead it's become,
you know,
immediately it's
just pounced on by a million fucking dicks who want to just you know who just figure out it's a
way to launder money it's a way to right it's a way to it's a way to trick people who are have
no money into buying some more shit that they can then you know it's another pyramid scheme
unfortunately yeah like he does seem to be like if there was a person who would
be capable of like kind of figuring out the right ways to use this he seems like he would be that
person in a lot of the things he says but he just hasn't been able to do it like it's i hope so
yeah i hope somebody figures out how to do something that would, you know, shake up shit. But, you know, I know, I just I just I think it's a bummer like NFTs bum me out because it's just like, I mean, it's like anything. It's like if you if you know somebody who has a bunch of money, you can sell an NFT to them. But if you don't, then if you're a poor person and you fucking, you know, you don't it's a it's another access to wealth thing. You know, it's like if I had an NFT, you know, who am I going to sell it to?
You know, like an oligarch that I know?
No, you have to know somebody who's like a fucking has enough money to throw away on a fucking digital photo.
I mean, it's just like there's nothing about NFTs that's.
But it's not just a digital photo, Chris.
What you're doing is you're buying something that could have potentially exponential like a
value explosion and yeah i mean look you may see the lines go up and down but really at the end of
the day i mean what you're holding on to is something is a seed that could turn into an
entire forest okay okay boomer you know did you see that did you see like jimmy kimmel doing that
not jimmy kimmel i always oh yeah jimmy fallon doing the nft ad with the fucking chimp with You know, did you see that? Did you see like Jimmy Kimmel doing that? Not Jimmy Kimmel. I always call him Jimmy Fallon.
Jimmy Kimmel doing the NFT ad with the fucking chimp with fucking.
That was nuts.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's when like, I think you'd hope most people would be like, okay, this is some weird rich people trying to be like, hey, listen up, whores.
Yeah.
I bought a fucking cartoon ape.
Like for a lot of money, you should all do that.
Like what money would you be talking about
mr fallon that we have to blow on a cartoon ape which now costs like some of them cost a million
dollars each yeah so it's like who you know you know it's another thing where it's like who you
know right but i hope somebody and i don't know anything about bitcoin you know i mean i'll be
left on the street corner if there's you know i'll be on the street corner fucking dancing for
change if there's a if the world goes bitcoin because I don't know how to get any.
I don't know how to mine Bitcoin.
I don't even know how to mine regular.
But even if you did like that, like, so that's the thing that the Time Magazine article, it's actually a pretty good article for Time Magazine, I will say.
And I don't think I've ever said that before,
but they're typically a garbage publication. They did a good job with this article. But the things
they point out are like the ecological side effects, the fact that it's predatory, the fact
that it's largely white males taking advantage of this and getting rich off this, the fact that
what they're doing with their profit
seems to be buying super yachts and lambos like that's and yeah the just like the standard shit
but i just wanted to go back to something i mentioned earlier but like this is also creating
a massive market where some very smart people or you know people who might have otherwise have an inspiration to
create a unclogable tunnel or you know some shit yeah culvert like those people are now just focused
on like tracking the fucking lines of like what what's happening with crypto and it's not i don't know it's just it
just feels like it's this dead end that our culture is increasingly you know because capitalism is
the singularity that everybody was worried about for so many years on sci-fi like capitalism is
that and it just continuously finds a way to replicate itself and you know lead us into more you know
markets where or more like futures where the the entire thing is just capitalism and nothing else
and there's no no good being created by this right and probably a lot of bad when people don't have
like when the the norm is people many people experiencing lack
then suddenly the emphasis is like trying to come out of that and then you see all these weird these
you know get rich quick schemes that are around people and it makes sense that people like well
then i guess this is where to put the energy because i'm going to pull myself out of this
that's because that's what my day-to-day existence is, is not having shit. It's so true. This is the thing that's being like waved in front of my face.
Then, yeah, that's all the attention is going to go there because all the attention isn't on the bigger issue, which is everyone is lacking.
Everyone is experiencing lack.
Yeah, because people's day-to-day, they can't get ahead.
And they really can't.
They're in debt.
Most people are in debt you know that's what so they've they've they took they took all you know they basically they've drained they've looted the
the consumers of america like they when they were and when they had no more money they gave them
subprime mortgages when they had no more money they gave them loans they gave everybody in america
is in debt like the debt is through the roof so the these like the last frontier is like, let's now dangle get rich quick schemes in front of these people to take even whatever's left, you know, like because they don't have any other they don are like, like how evil capitalism has become
because it's just,
it's not really a thing.
It has no soul.
It just does what,
you know, somebody's going to say,
here's an idea of how we can get
the last penny from these people.
We'll dangle these get rich quick schemes,
you know, and then the old thing,
well, I don't want to do that,
but I mean, somebody's going to do it.
So I might as well do it.
You know, somebody's going to do this.
You can launder your reputation by yeah and and and it's just uh i think about that with like fame now
why everybody wants to be famous it's not because they want to be famous they want to be safe
yeah like fame is not like that people just it's all it's like hunger games in the sense that
people who stand celebrities are standing them because they're
safe. They're like, love them and they're happy for them because they are safe. They have health
care. They have, you know, that is not what it's not art anymore. It's like survival. It's a contest.
And I hate that because, I mean, it's like, I don't know. I just think about that lately,
just that celebrities are just safe people. I mean, Maria Bamford had that bit a long time ago about Jennifer Aniston just being the monkey that knows where all the bananas are. Like she was like, it makes sense for as humans that we would look to the people who know where the resources are and basically chase them. So she's like, you look at Jennifer Aniston, she definitely has, she knows where all the bananas are.
She's the monkey that knows.
So you're going to follow her.
Right.
But it's like watching like, you know, any celebrity now.
Like, I can't stop thinking about Dua Lipa because she came to Nashville and everybody filmed her on stage.
And I saw the crowd, you know, filming her.
And I don't know any of her songs and I'm not particularly angry at Dua Lipa.
But she, it seemed like the fan energy was more just like,
I wish I was her because she's safe.
She has everything.
Look at how beautiful she is.
Look at her beautiful clothing.
Look at her beautiful, you know what I mean?
Like she is living the life I wish I could live.
And the only way I can get it is either through some Hail Mary pass, like buying crypto or a fucking virtual ape,
or just being famous. like maybe i can become
a celebrity and then i'll have health care yeah and that is not that is crazy because that corrupts
art completely and art is so important there's no culture and this is i mean you're talking about
this there's no culture when capitalism takes over everything and culture is what keeps people
that's the reason to be alive.
You know,
like it's like culture is what we're all feeling the lack of when I feel
sad right now,
it's because there's no culture anymore.
There's just anger and money and all these things,
but those aren't,
that's not culture.
Right.
Anyway,
you know,
it's just stuff I think about when I think about fame.
Now I definitely think that,
and I'm part of it too.
I'm like,
you know,
I want to be safe.
I bet if I'm famous, I can get good health care and you know get a hair transplant
a good looking one not one of those street corner jobs
no not one of those broom no not one of those like broom bristles
fucking stuck in your head you don't want doll hair? I want that fucking McConaughey hair. Yeah. That motherfucker was bald.
You want that Antonio Banderas?
That motherfucker was bald.
McConaughey? I want people to know that. Yes!
He was fucking bald.
He said he got...
Here's what he said.
I'm a bald guy, so I know all this shit.
I'm like the fucking bald police.
When you're a bald guy, you want everybody else to be bald.
You want to take him down. Oh, look at Mr. look at mr hair oh mr hair with his wife and kids uh
i'm looking at you i'm looking at you jack o'brien i'm looking at you mr hair so yeah so i'm like
always observing you know like just checking out people's hair to see if it's real and anyway
mcconaughey man i was like what the fuck that guy went bald i was psyched right yeah i'm like he's gone he's out
you know he's off the list it's out of the game yeah he's not gonna get a wife and uh and then uh
and then uh and then mcconaughey's the loser mcconaughey gets his hair back and it looks great
and and he says it's because he took proppecia because he had, like, bullshit.
That's a weave, and it's a beautiful one, and I want to know where he got it.
And if you're listening, McConaughey, I know iHeartRadio's got a lot of celebrities in there.
You probably have a podcast.
I want to find out where you got that thing.
You can DM me.
Yeah.
And the other thing.
McConaughey is actually one of our new interns.
He's worked for us ever since he lost his hair. Oh, fuck. You guys are doing good. You guys are doing good. Oh, he's interns. He's worked for us. Oh, yeah.
Oh, fuck.
You guys are doing good.
You guys are doing good. Oh, he's an intern because he lost his hair?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, he ran out of those pills.
Yeah.
Couldn't do supply chain, took away his hair.
He heard podcasting.
You gotta give him easy access to hair loss ads.
Fucking, I was investigating Chris Martin from Coldplay.
Chris Martin from Coldplay has a fucking hair weave.
Yeah.
Do you think it's a weave or do you think it's surgery?
Whatever it is, it looks kind of funny because it's like too.
I saw a picture of him.
He's promoting the new record.
And I was like, wait a minute.
Where did he get like kids hair?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He had the Jude Law widow's peak.
Yeah.
It looks like he's got like fucking 17-year-old hair.
And he's like, I don't know, 65 or something.
Anyway, I just noticed and I looked it up and I was like, oh my God, yeah, that's not his real hair.
Because this hairline, whenever you see a hairline that's too uniform.
When it bounces back.
My mom taught me all this. She's always fucking pointing out people. She's likeine that's too uniform. When it bounces back. My mom taught me all this.
She's always fucking pointing out people.
She's like, that's a wig.
She's been doing that her whole life.
I don't know why.
Well, Chris, as always, a true pleasure to have you.
You are my mom's favorite guest that we ever have on Daily Zeitgeist.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Oh, that's so nice.
She's like Chris Crofton is such a character.
That makes me so happy.
She loves.
She's a big Crofton fan.
Is she single?
She's not.
Hey, hey.
Oh, God.
Hey.
Oh, wait.
Hey, man.
I just asked if she was single.
That doesn't mean anything.
You can ask.
That's not against the law to ask that.
Yeah.
That's fine.
Just kidding.
You are now my dad's least favorite.
That makes me happy.
No, I hope your parents are so happy
and I don't want to do anything.
I don't know where they are.
I don't know where they are.
And we'll keep it that way.
O'Brien is not your last name anyway.
You probably have a deep cover, right?
Come on.
It's fake, just like my hair.
That's not.
That's real hair.
I can tell.
I'm so jealous.
I'm angry, not just jealous.
Shut up.
Don't lie to me.
That's your real hair.
The whole time I'm on this Zoom, I'm just seething, drinking more cold brew, hoping it'll cause growth.
Where can people find you and follow you?
I would say right now the most important thing is just for me, this book is the best thing I've ever had.
I mean, it's like my favorite thing I've ever done.
Actually, I think it's more of a weird philosophy book than really an advice book.
So it's called The Advice King Anthology, and you can get it at Vanderb it's not on Amazon yet because it's pre-sales.
Vanderbilt University Press can get more money from even with 40% off, even with 40% off to get more money than through Amazon.
So if you buy it directly from Vanderbilt University Press right now, you get 40% off.
So it's like a $13 book plus shipping.
It's like 17 bucks.
It's 340 pages.
It's so fun.
It's got tons of laughs and it's also got some serious stuff,
a lot of serious stuff.
And,
um,
also stories about me buying like used cars and shit.
That's just like the saddest stuff.
That's so fun to laugh at that just to hear about someone else's sad life is in there too.
So,
uh,
Vanderbilt university press.com and,
um,
code to get 40% off is 15 pre one five P R E.
And, uh, thanks to you guys. And thanks to, uh% off is 15pre, 1-5-P-R-E.
And thanks to you guys and thanks to Jamie Loftus for giving me a quote on it.
And I'm going to read this other quote that is on the cover of the book.
Crofton is equal parts Heather Haverletsky, Wendell Berry, and Bojack Horseman.
Whoa.
And that's from a guy named David Dark, who's written like 10 books.
So you know it's true.
And Nick Gaison,
Nicholas Gaison illustrated it. The illustrations are fantastic.
And then you can find me at The Crofton Show
on Instagram and
Twitter. Oh, and Cold Brew Got Me Like.
Go listen to Cold Brew Got Me Like. It's on every week.
Yeah, yeah. Is there a tweet or
some of the work of social media you can enjoy?
Yes. This is from someone named
AtShocks, S-H-O-C-K-S.
A lot of folks convinced
they could survive the collapse of civil
society seem unable to survive
$5 gas.
Like that's
the fucking whole picture
right there. There you go.
I want an insurrection so I can fucking
never have any supplies from the
supply chain.
Miles, where can people find you? what's a tweet you've been enjoying uh find me on twitter and instagram
at miles of gray also the other pod 420 date beyonce with sophie alexander and also the
basketball podcast mad boosties that's coming soon more to come on that one. Some tweets I like. First one is from
at netso underscore
tweeted, selling my degree.
Still in good condition. Never been
used. Felt like a good
sales ad for that degree.
And then Lily Sullivan at Lily
Yilly tweeted, my love language
is cooking elaborate meals, screaming at everyone
to get out of the kitchen, then loudly
announcing the food was not my best and waiting for compliments.
Yep.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
A couple of tweets I've been enjoying.
Kat Elgarista tweeted, takes a long drag off cigarette.
Yeah, I know the muffin man.
And then John Boyce again tweeted,
the shift key is the most useless key on the keyboard.
It doesn't do anything.
Don't to me.
To the number 10.
It's that.
It's that without the shift.
Love it.
Fucking got me.
I was like, how about that?
Oh, I got one other one I forgot.
Brendan Cooney. And I feel like he deserves a shout out because he's a funny comedian he also does great tweets but it's kind
of hard it's a visual one but it's a picture of like one of those americana ladies like one of
those white like uh venice california americana ladies who wear those big huge hats like you know
like those big cowboy hats and he said if someone has one of these hats in line, add 25 minutes to your
Starbucks trip.
Which I really like. You guys can see
the picture here. There's the lady.
And also
go see my show. I forgot. Go see my show
at Club TG
April 3rd, Sunday, in Los Angeles.
And that includes you and you guys. Please
come. I'm playing music.
Oh, nice. What's Club TG? Club TG is on Los Angeles and that includes you and you guys please come it's it's I'm playing music oh nice
all right what's club TG club TG is on um Glendale right across from like it's like Atwater Village
it's like right across from um it's like right next to out of the closet thrift store across
from all those shops oh yeah yeah yeah it's it's called uh club TG and I go on at someone before
me who's great named uh Gabe Bernini and and then I'm on at 10 o'clock.
And it's just me in this room.
TG was an old bar in the 50s, and they kind of remodeled.
It's like one side's a bar and the other side's a little performance room.
It's kind of hip.
It's cool.
Nice.
Catch you in there.
Sunday, April 3rd.
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Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy?
I was listening to the new Rosalia album over the weekend.
The album's called Motomami.
And it's, man, the production on this is really, really good.
And it's just a fun listen.
So the first track, you know, the first track on the album, Saoko.
Saoko.
There's a lot of, you know, Japanese stuff in there.
You know, for the visuals and some of the stuff in the videos.
But this is called Saoko.
And it's a, yeah, it's a fun track.
It's only like two minutes or something.
But the production is great.
Album's worth a listen.
So check it out.
This is Rosalia with Saucal.
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