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hello the internet and welcome to season 268 episode 2 of darn i at least i guys yeah it's
a production of iheart radio and it's a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's tuesday december 20th 2022 t minus five days of christmas because we found out
the 12 days of christmas start on christmas yeah way to go 12 days of christmas but it's also
doesn't make any sense jack you're someone someone who has obviously studied abroad in España,
you should know that it is a National Fangria Day.
Okay?
Also, International Human Solidarity Day.
Okay?
And also, Go Caroling Day.
I guess if you want to, although it feels...
Have you ever caroled?
No, I've never caroled.
Like in a non-school function where
you were singing a christmas carol for parents but like you never done that thing where you have
and i love singing christmas carols but i've never gone door to door and caroled for my supper okay
yeah no no i thought that was the i remember getting mad when like i remember one year
like a neighborhood group of neighborhood people like're going to carol around the neighborhood.
And when they came, they, like, interrupted me playing, like, I think it was Donkey Kong Country or something.
And I was like, what are we doing?
Mom was like, they're coming to the door.
I'm like, fuck them.
We didn't want them to come anyway.
And my mom screamed at me.
Fuck them, mom.
Yeah.
No, fuck them.
Wow.
So, producer, Becca used to be a caroler and would do Pokemon-themed carols sometimes.
Wow.
Wait, what?
I'm sorry.
Get more evidence that we have the wrong people hosting the show and that Becca should be hosting it.
What the fuck is a Pokemon-themed carol?
I know.
We got to get more evidence.
Okay.
Hit us with it.
Is it...
What is it?
Like, oh, Pikachu.
No, I think it was specifically the 12 Days of Christmas.
Yeah.
The 12 Days of Pokemon.
I don't know if, like, it was something my parents looked up on, like, OG old internet
or if they made it up themselves.
Like, they took one of our videos from
your parents yeah because my parents used to take us and all the neighborhood kids caroling so it
was like me my brother and then like the neighbors down the street and like we all loved Pokemon so
I don't know if it was like they were like well they'll do this if it's Pokemon related and they
just made a bunch of Pokemon carols or.
Yeah.
Pokemon is so intimidating to me as a parent.
Cause there's just so much lore and so many names that are all made up.
Exactly.
So you can just stick any name in the,
like a dove,
you know,
you're like three,
you know? Oh,
okay.
Yeah.
Seven,
Swanna,
Swimming.
Yeah.
They just knew you fucked with Pokemon.
And so they were like, let's get it.
Oh, we were obsessed.
My brother liked Pokemon sheets, Pokemon cards, Pokemon collector things.
Yeah.
So they were just like, we'll just pick some names, put them in a sheet.
It's beginning.
My four-year-old is starting to talk about Pokemon, and my strategy is to just go completely
dead.
I just go limp whenever he does, and I'm holding onto that.
That's a good strategy. That's what kids do when they don't want to do. I just go limp whenever he does. And I'm holding onto that. That's a good strategy.
That's what kids do
when they don't want to do something.
They go limp.
Can I tell you guys something?
I learned about the 12 days of Christmas real fast.
Yes.
Do you know there's the 12 days
starting with Christmas and after?
That's what we're talking about.
We didn't know that.
It's not a countdown to Christmas.
No, it's after.
Yeah.
That's bullshit. Fuck me up. I hate it. I'm so tired of Christmas after Christmas. Did I tell you what I learned about. It's about a countdown to Christmas. No, it's after. Yeah. It's bullshit.
Fuck me up.
I hate it.
I'm so tired of Christmas after Christmas.
Did I tell you what I learned about New Year's, though?
What'd you learn?
It's when Jesus got circumcised.
Is that right?
Go with me here.
Okay.
Okay.
He was born on Christmas, right?
Mm.
Oh, how many days after to the bris?
You do the bris like eight days later
after the ball drops yes proverbially you know right spiritual like obviously it doesn't happen
that quickly when you savor the champagne off yeah well there it is that's right i can't stop
telling people this because i just learned it and it's like all I can talk about now is like, did you guys know New Year's is when Jesus was circumcised?
I mean, that would suggest that we picked Christmas specifically to like back to the way that Black Friday happens more like Black Friday happens after Thanksgiving, but also Thanksgiving kind of happens before Black Friday.
Yeah, we backdated Christmas in order.
We backdated Christmas in order to celebrate Jesus's circumcision.
It's because I looked up the 12 days of Christmas because I was like,
what's that all about? And then that's how I found out. It's the 12 days after, not before.
I think we might have told you that it was the 12 days after
at the Christmas party we were at together last week
and then thus starting the entire chain.
Who even knows?
The Ouroboros of information.
My journey into Jesus's circumcision
where I learned that the foreskin,
like a lot of people claim to have the foreskin.
Of Jesus?
Yeah. Oh, like a shroud of terrain? It's like a lot of people claim to have the foreskin of jesus yeah oh like you're still holding
up it's like a holy artifact wow wow and all these different people claimed that they had it
basically it's like an early tourist trap to be like come to my city come see jesus's force also
the easiest thing to fake is so right like nobody to be like, that doesn't look like a 3,000-year-old foreskin to me.
They're like, that's an onion ring.
Is it?
How dare you?
That's blasphemy.
It's called the Holy Prepuce.
Yeah.
Wait, this was a tourist trap in the year 37?
Yes.
Or it was a tourist...
Okay.
Yes, because apparently a lot of them got destroyed during the sacking of Rome.
Got it.
The fake foreskins?
Yeah.
Oh, got it.
Okay.
Or maybe it was a bread and fish, you know, multiplication thing where once he was circumcised,
his foreskin just multiplied out of control.
It was actually a problem.
The five golden rings.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Apple Jacks, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien.
Two seasonal dishes in honor of the holidays.
And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Pink vibrators in a CVS
Jack's big plumpers looking swole
COVID warnings being sung by a mime
And folks drowning in inflation woes
Everybody knows a turkey and
some mistletoe
cost about
$3.85.
Baja Blast
in the can all aglow.
I'll find it hard
to sleep tonight.
Alright, La Caroni, shout out to you doing the Nat King Cole
Christmas song, getting in CVS
vibrators. You didn't get B-plugs in there, to you doing the Nat King Cole Christmas song, getting his CVS vibrators.
You didn't get B-plugs in there, but you got the big plumpers in there and you got Baja Blast valid.
Well done.
Well done.
And it is hard to sleep on Christmas night because of all the Baja Blast that I allow myself around the time of the seasons.
But then I won't see Santa, Mom.
Why is Dad vibrating and grinding his teeth?
Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant and talented writer, podcaster,
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Was the co-host of the legendary podcasts Girls in Hoodies and Night Call.
And the writer, creator, and host of the legendary podcast Girls in Hoodies and Night Call and the writer, creator, and host
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Please welcome back to the show
Molly Lambert!
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He's got a foreskin.
We're gonna cut it off
on New Year's Eve
because Molly just learned about it.
That New Year's was Jesus' circumcision.
There it is.
What is that, Fergie? Right? That was glamorous i wasn't sure if it was gonna fit when i started and it could be absolutely did
oh r e s k i and we're talking four skins Talking foreskin. Anyway, we can punch that in later.
There it is.
We were talking foreskin.
What's new since a couple days ago when we were... Talking foreskin.
On New Year's Eve, we're gonna champagne.
Ooh.
That's a meow meow.
You can always go to...
Meow meow.
Meow meow.
Oh, yeah, that's Fergie.
Yeah, you can start just feeling She did that during the
Yeah during the national anthem too
I felt that she
She got a meow meow in there too
When she sang it at the all-star game
She's had like several
Famous public performances
The national anthem
The one where she peed herself
She's just sweaty I think
The one where she
No she was peeing herself
And the one where she like did backflips the whole
she's an incredible performer yeah one of the greats stacy ferguson never i've never
like even conceived of the idea that somebody wanted to fuck the national anthem but that was
the only thing i could see when she performed the national anthem she's from hacienda heights too local she is from hacienda
heights in so many ways she still goes to taco bell drive through ross huh oh yeah she's in the
heights she stays in the heights you know what i mean as she says our like our my idahomey whose
dad worked for like arco or whatever one of those like you know gas companies were out there and
like her and him and fergie's dad were
like kicking it forever and he's like yeah dude i remember like we would see her when we were like
kids she was always a star it's like oh my god that's such a weird i saw i saw her as a child
and i was like that's a star oh man hey man sometimes children just have star quality yeah yeah gotta get them in the biz
stars aren't made they just exist she's been in the biz for a minute anyway so you know
oh man kittens incorporated i just saw babylon last night oh my god how was it
i don't know i don't like to be a hater oh that's Jack. The people I saw with liked it.
I can tell what you thought of it from what you just said around it.
It's a mess.
There's some great parts.
There's some great parts, and it's a mess.
I heard it's a big mess.
Is it this year's House of Gucci?
Ooh.
I don't think so, but maybe, yeah.
Because it's fun, and everyone's doing cocaine in it?
The older I get, the more I realize how much my enjoyment,
how much I like a movie is dependent on where I'm at personally.
Have you liked any movies lately?
No.
This is my show now.
Yeah, right.
No, I haven't.
I haven't liked movies for about a week and a half.
Jack, what do you like?
Not in a week and a half.
You know what i liked that i
won't stop talking about what's that the fable men's did you oh yeah everybody's really good
i loved it i heard it's really good i want to see that nobody that i was with liked it but i loved
it i thought it was really funny i had the thought while watching babylon because it is a love letter
to the magic of cinema. Babylon is. I had
the thought, man, we should have seen the
Fablemans.
We should have seen that love letter to the
magic of cinema. The secret about Fablemans? It's not really
a love letter to film.
What? Yeah.
It is, but not in the way you think
it's going to be. It's about the power
of film. Much hornier.
It is horny, actually.
That's cool.
And it's about his mom, right?
Yeah, it's about his horny mom.
Nice.
All right, Molly, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Sorry, Miles, were you going to say something?
I was just thinking of...
Horny mom jokes?
No, you saw Babylon more in the Rastafarian sense, that that shit was Babylon to you.
Yes, yes, exactly. In all sense that that shit was Babylon to you. Yes. Yes. Exactly.
In all the senses,
it was Babylon to me.
Yeah.
Very horny movie.
We're a very like,
I don't know.
Yeah.
It's worth seeing.
I highly recommend seeing.
Sometimes a movie that is that horny can be like,
like desexualizing.
It is a little bit like that.
Yeah.
Horny,
but not erotic. Yeah. There's something else I just saw where I was like, desexualizing. It is a little bit like that, yeah. Horny but not erotic.
Yeah, there's something else I just saw where I was like,
wow, this is, like, so horny that it becomes completely un-erotic.
Right, right.
Which might have been the point.
Like, one of the first things we see is a beautiful woman.
I'm sorry.
It doesn't look like clean, nice, fresh.
It's a mess.
And then from there, it's just.
There's.
Wait, I'm sorry.
You just really.
Jump street.
Jump street.
I feel like you can't tell.
I feel like you shouldn't reveal that.
I feel like you shouldn't reveal that.
That feels like some shit.
Maybe you should talk to Damien Chazelle because he drops that in the second scene.
You're telling me this is a movie
is a love letter to it's a love letter to cinema and oh my god we get shit on before that even
happens in the first scene of the movie by an elephant so i'm just letting you know it's a lot
right away wow i've heard people say stuff like this about it but i thought they were kidding
no no it's all very serious and i
just it's it also has i think i was like turned off by the fact that it has things that i'm pretty
sure he thought were very funny that i like was like oh man so anyways oh now i gotta see it yeah
anyways uh molly we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna
tell our listeners a couple things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about Elon Musk, maybe a little bit, maybe not. We'll see.
We have to talk about George Santos, a superstar in the MAGA world.
And yeah, just a...
The grift of the fucking year, I think. The grift is real.
Like, holy shit. Lacey needs to do just all her
2023 episodes about this man.
Yeah. Or not. It might just be very straightforward that he lied about everything.
And then the Democrats didn't want to win for some reason.
Anyways, we'll talk about that. This is the openly gay Republican politician who just won in New York.
And the Democrats just, they were like,
how do we beat this guy? Didn't do much oppo there. Apparently did zero,
did less than zero oppo. Didn't do a single thing. We're going to make a case for shoplifting from Walmart, all of that, plenty more. But first, Molly, we do like to ask
our guest, what is something from your search history?
Well, I already told you that i looked up the 12 days of christmas and learned that new year's is when jesus got circumcised and
can't stop telling people yeah everybody wants to know how to stop telling people about how to stop telling people about New Year's. Search bar. How to stop talking about Jesus's penis to strangers you just met at a party.
I've always thought that was an undercover thing.
There are a lot of nude crucifixes and nude paintings of Jesus.
The holy cock?
Yeah, the holy cock.
That seems like a thing that people would talk about.
How big is it?
I mean, it turns out. Shouldn't it be really big? Are there are there a lot of wait i don't think i ever saw jesus's jump bro i'm gonna
send you guys right now because i remember in the catholic high school and i went he had the little
loincloth on like when do you see in the depiction of the crucifixion or like there are just other
ones like glamour shots with jesus like with the adding that. Are you ready to see 5,000 paintings of Jesus getting circumcised as a baby?
No, I'm talking about grown man Jesus.
Click.
Click on this.
Click on this link.
I thought there's definitely been at least a...
Well, yeah, I mean, that makes sense because this is like so much art.
Everything was just like, hey, what should we do?
Paintings of nature.
Like, nah, do shit from the Bible.
Right.
Okay.
Naked people from the Bible.
Look at my link. Look at my link that I just sent you in the chat am i ready for this yeah you are good i mean it's like so
ancient depictions but through the years it's like paintings from all the different periods
like even the period when babies just looked like tiny grown men oh yeah like this first one by friedrich herlin
that jesus it looks like he's fucking 40 he has a receding hairline and he's like relaxed like
yo man let's get this over smoking a cigarette babies look like little old men though yeah
but not like this they look like winston churchill yeah babies do look like Winston Churchill. White babies look like Winston Churchill. It's a problem for the whites.
But also, look at little baby Jesus.
He is getting his foreskin taken off.
That was when they knew.
He didn't even make a face.
He was just like, yeah, take that.
But the venue for the circumcision looks lit,
as if they knew he was Jesus.
Well, they did, Miles.
But did they take him to a special thing?
I mean, I don't remember the gospel of Luke, like, to my heart.
But it looks like they did it in, like, a castle.
Like, the king was like, yo, bro, bring him through.
Yeah.
Little Star of Bethlehem.
Maybe it should have been a giant Star of Bethlehem.
That's all I'm saying.
There's this one car I always see in my neighborhood that has a bumper sticker that just says circumcision
is his decision.
Like capitalized H as in God?
No.
No.
It is his upon his.
No, it's like anti-circumcision.
It's like
my body, my choice
for baby boy.
Yeah, if you want to go do that in adulthood, you don't have a very chaotic experience doing that in adulthood.
Bro, get in the car.
Bro, we're all getting circumcisions, bro.
Hop in.
Bro, your white elephant present?
We got you a bris.
What is something you think is overrated molly uh let's say the movie jaws
molly let's say underrated the fablements okay look at how mad jack jack you just fucking you
just shit on his whole life saying that no that's so mad he's i probably just like jaws because i was in a good mood for the
first six years of my life and watched it a hundred times but jack always wanted to be
get eaten by a shark like that that whole thing set off like a whole movement in his mind really
yeah that was that was what i thought i wanted to do when i grew up when people asked me as a kid. Get eaten by a shark?
Yeah, I said I wanted to either be a shark,
be a shark-eologist, but that wasn't a profession.
So ultimately I want to be... Shark-eology, dude.
Or ultimately I want to be eaten by a shark.
Ultimately.
I also wanted to be a marine biologist
when I was a child for some reason.
Yeah.
I mean, because marine biology is cool as hell is why. i wish it like turned me on to all that cool shit and like jacuzzi movies and like instead
i just watched jaws hundreds of times watched jaws 2 hundreds of times jaws 3 and 4 probably
dozens of times each wow i mean i had this fantasy of like booping P-22 on the nose. RIP, RIP.
RIP, P-22.
That's the mountain lion for those who are not LA listeners. He's the mountain lion who they just euthanized. But I always said if I saw, if I ever saw that mountain lion, I was going to...
You would boop him on the nose.
Oh, I was going to kiss it
and let it murder me.
Yeah.
I think that's the right thing to do.
Imagine if you got to hear
a mountain lion purr.
Maybe the last thing you'd ever hear,
but it would be incredible.
It sounds like a...
When I've heard it,
it sounds not...
Like, it sounds like
a big-ass engine.
It sounds like a lawnmower
starting up.
Yeah.
Imagine how good that would feel to, like, feel a big cat purr. Oh, yeah. lawnmower starting. Yeah. Yeah. It ain't good. That would feel to like feel a big cat purr.
Oh yeah.
And then you die.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Whenever I see people like those animal handlers were like bears and shit and like big cats
be like fucking knocking them over.
Cause they're like having fun.
Like,
come on buddy.
And I'm like,
Oh shit.
I would like to get kind of wrapped up over the back.
Yeah.
And they're like,
fuck man.
Come on.
I'm fucking with you.
I love you though. I follow some people on Instagram who they're like fuck man like they're really like come on i'm fucking with you i love you though i follow some people on instagram who they're all russian who have like big cats
that as pets right all these people there's like one guy i follow has like a puma in his apartment
yeah i followed some like rustic russians who like have bear friends yeah i feel like they've
been living with the bears though for
centuries you know what i mean so the their bear vibes are way different than ours i don't know
it's pretty suspenseful they post a video where they're like here i am rubbing this puma's belly
whatever go live go live there was like that one ufc fighter who would like wrestle bear cubs when
he was a kid and like that's how he got his wrestling technique down.
He's just bodying like bear cubs.
But I do.
Oh, I should mention that I sent this article and like in our text or like last night.
But Steven Spielberg recently, he was on Desert Island Discs.
And the host was asking, like, how he would feel about having sharks like circling him if he was like on the show's desert island.
And Steven Spielberg said, that's the one thing I still fear, not to get eaten by a shark, but that sharks are somehow mad at me for the feeding frenzy of crazy sports fishermen that happened after 1975.
I mean, the sharks aren't mad at you, but cosmically you're fucked, bro.
That's what he's feeling.
He's like, do I have a cosmic debt for setting off a sport fishing thing?
And then one of these people who has the head of a shark trust was like, I think we're giving him a little too much credit.
But yeah, that certainly may have done it.
No, he did say his great regret is villainizing sharks in some way.
And Peter eventually said the same thing.
Well, because sharks don't eat people everybody knows that people eat people people i mean also okay now i'm
gonna say jaws is good and stop being such a contrarian yeah man is the most dangerous animal
and jaws yeah it's not about the shark it's about keeping the resort open. Yeah. Yeah.
But I wasn't able to figure that out as a kid.
I just didn't swim in dark pools for about fucking 23 years.
I mean, look, the ocean is scary.
That's what's cool about it.
Yeah.
The ocean rules.
Respect that.
Respect that, bitch.
Your new fucking conservation campaign.
And then the Fableman's just really good we won't spoil it but it's just
really good i really i i am not like a spielberg guy at all and i kind of saw it as a joke kept
being like let's see the fablemans um and it was very different than i thought it was going to be
it was not like a love letter cinema really different it's not like a la la land it was like
um it's it's like a serious man oh oh really yeah wow it's about being like
miserable jews in the suburbs at the height of american empire when everyone's supposed to be
doing so good oh that sounds great so it's like almost like a sam mendes type vibe of a film yeah
it's written by tony kushner with spielberg it's like very funny and dark it's not
like sentimental or schmaltzy at all which is what and it's very like admin reveal of spielberg
where you're like oh this is why he doesn't really do stories about real people and their human
emotions it's because he's all fucked up about this his whole life right right right is why you
didn't really delve into the relationship of
the parents in et because you didn't want to you didn't want it was complicated truly no i mean
truly it's like and also my friend dave uh horowitz said he was like oh et is about like
your jewish relatives from the old world that you have to like keep alive that are always like asking you how to use a telephone
because judd hirsch shows up in fablemans it's like an old jew and my friend was like that's et
and i was like wow so not only is it like a good movie in and of itself but you can just like watch
it as a rosetta stone of like all the other it explains everything
about spielberg yeah and it's definitely it's just not like it's not like sentimental and schmaltzy
it's it's very like it's about how your parents are human beings it's great who said the thing
about the elderly relatives just so we can give them a friend dave horowitz dave horowitz all
right and you can find him at Dave underscore Horowitz on Twitter.
We are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and
Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together,
we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah
Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve
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And we're back. And Elon continues to do do his thing continuing to create drama so that
everybody's looking at him but i don't know it's gonna be interesting to see what he does with it
so a couple days ago he put out a poll saying, should I step down as CEO?
Sad face.
I should just kill myself, right?
Like hoping everyone's like, no, Elon, stop.
You're so cool.
We love you.
But people voted yes, he should step down as CEO.
And he said that he's going to follow through whatever the poll demands.
So I don't know. It feels like he put himself
in a no-win situation
because
he's sort of out of options
now. He could either just ignore it
and keep on being the worst CEO
of all time. He could
actually step down
and resign in disgrace.
In disgrace?
He's still going to own it. he's just picking somebody else to fucking front the fucking thing yeah yeah you
know which probably means what yeah that's probably and like people said that's what he was
he already said he was planning to do that so this was just his way of being like what you guys did
it it's your call i'm just listening to the people but i'm i am curious
like do you think he thought he was gonna get voted and i think yo last week was the worst
week of his life with the chase center shit with all the weird like elon jet banning actually jk
actually someone's giving us assassination coordinates and then the cops like what he's
like actually jk should i suspend these journalists
maybe i won't here's a twitter wait are you talking about when he got like cheered on dave
chapelle's stage but it was 90 percent cheers and like there were a couple boos is that what you're
talking about but it didn't seem bad to me well it was bad to me and i i definitely began to see
him sort of uh struggling a bit but i think rightly a lot of
people pointed out that with the tesla stock going down him publicly leaving twitter as ceo would help
restore confidence and bring the share price back up like that's one dimension of why this makes
sense because you know like his wealth is tied up in tesla's stock value so when that going down
and many shareholders being like man this guy's needs to
fucking stop paying attention to twitter and like figure out this other shit uh i guess it kind of
helped it went up 62 cents on monday morning but i think this has been settled for a while by like a
lot of investment analysts like that tesla stock is just overvalued and has been overvalued for a
while yeah and i think as you know people begin to be like this guy's kind of a loser that that sort of
undermines the confidence in the company and then therefore we start seeing a little bit of a i guess
a decrease in the in the share value so this gives him a good out to also be like you know what
vox populi vox dare whatever the fuck he was saying about saying like see i'm i listened to
the people they told me to get the fuck out and i did and here's this other person who will now be
in a perfect position to be the fall guy when twitter goes bankrupt right and then he can just
kind of be like man this thing was doomed before even i scared off 90 of the ad revenue in fucking
three days place was a wrap but i think yeah many people like this this feels like a good way to preserve
your ego on the way out while you've actually just uh you know embarrassed it just gives them
like more spite like more ammunition for being like fuck you guys i'll show you so it also i
don't know like what did he think was gonna happen and now he's just to be a bigger spoiled baby throwing a tantrum with billions of dollars than ever before.
Yeah.
Why not?
But Molly, you're a huge Elon Musk fan.
What do you think?
Yeah, absolutely.
Don't count him out.
Don't count this guy out.
He's just, God, it's just incredible what a bad poster he is.
The worst.
Oh, yeah.
what a bad poster he is the worst oh yeah i mean it's sort of inspiring that you can have all that money and and never be funny yeah like he's not even doing the smart thing like to get a consultant
or something well a normal person any normal celebrity you know not that i want him to be
a celebrity but like anyone else would just hire a joke writer.
Right.
Everybody else that's famous just has a ghost writer making them seem likable.
I don't think Elon Musk will even do that, though.
I mean, not that he would hire a funny ghost writer, either.
I'm sure he'd hire someone who would be as funny as he is.
Right, right.
Even less funny. it's just incredible it's like i don't know makes i was saying it's like does he not know he's the guy
getting murdered by everybody in lord of the flies here yet like right you know not quite not quite
i think and that's why that's why it's just interesting to watch him having this real-time reconciliation
with whatever reality he's letting seep in through Twitter or the Chase Center or these
other moments he's having.
What the?
I thought I was killing it.
Right.
But then a lot of people in that poll were like, don't do it, Elon.
90% of those votes for you to step down are from bots
i thought he got rid of the fucking bots i thought he got rid of the fucking bots so now
they created a sophisticated aaa that we're going to have to oh yeah oh yeah he got windmills got
rinse oh shit basically get the fuck out of here yeah so that's funny he's supposed to step down
and he's gonna do it but don't like i just i like
his attitude his whole comportment he's gonna do something shitty as he steps down he's gonna make
it worse somehow you know what like he's gonna make fucking trump or some mega asshole like ceo
or something you know like he's gonna do somebody else is saying though like trump's trump's account is back and he hasn't posted yeah because he also the funny thing is trump is like he needs to get
as much investment in truth social so if he starts splitting his his presence well i think all of them
are like just trying to set up some some new social media right yeah but but again the problem
is like his the people who are investing
in truth i think there a lot of people are saying like they might sue trump if he started using
twitter because they're like you're actually sending business to a competitor when we're
investing in this thing that was supposed to be you exclusively on this fucking thing
so it's a very everyone's got their hands tied in weird ways
anyways like that it's good if we all get off twitter right isn't it somewhere we need somewhere to be
able to hear like when people are doing bad shit in real time i just don't know where that's going
to happen you know like oh instagram could you imagine that like yeah it becomes the new
fucking wild journalism feed on instagram one day who knows who knows but maybe they can maybe he can have this guy george santos
becomes yeah let's move on to george santos because this is i don't know this is the new
the new feeder profession for republican success is just straight grifter hey fake it till you make
it is a very popular phrase in the entertainment industry
don't worry about your fucking retina say you did that shit until you get there and if they ask
fuck it they have the time they don't even ask well george santos did exactly that he's right
now he's a superstar in the maga world he's an openly gay republican who has no problem with
the party's official platform of curtailing people's rights. I mean, he's actually the first non-incumbent out gay Republican to be elected.
So it's a historic win when he flipped this district in New York.
It was like a district that Biden or he won by eight points in a district that Biden had won in 2020.
That's wild.
And, dude, he's got a good story as a candidate on paper.
You know, you look at it goes, OK, what?
Tell us a little bit about the story of George Santos.
Well, he's the son of Brazilian immigrants.
He went to NYU.
He worked at Goldman Sachs and Citigroup, where he was a manager.
He helps manage his family's consulting firm and their massive real estate portfolio.
You know, and consulting worth, you know, like I guess handling around $80 million in investments as well with this consulting firm. And what else? He has a charity
that works with animals. And he even tragically said he lost four employees in the Pulse nightclub
shooting. And that was sort of like this backstory, like on his campaign site and what the people were
saying about him. also said j uh trump
was at his quote full awesomeness on january 6th right i also wonder if because saying i worked at
goldman sachs and city group and manage a consulting firm like those are the sorts of
things that i wonder if he has a unique insight here that like those jobs don't exist like when
you say them they don't exist in people's brains they're just like oh okay like they don't nobody
has any like idea of what that really means you know right when you say nobody's gonna like back
it up yeah oh you worked at goldman sachs okay you worked okay cool okay okay i work with a
consulting firm okay and it just like it doesn't exist
there's no follow-up including by the new york times the jobs are just so boring they're just
so blandly impressive as like i do real world stuff that you could just claim them so that's
a good that's good insight for anybody who's looking to do that stage their own grift i think
there are things to learn here say Say you're a consultant every time.
I can explain 100% of your income always.
Oh, I'm a consultant.
That's what I do.
And say, don't put it in writing,
but say that you worked at Goldman
or one of the big banks
because people will be like,
did he say Goldman or did he say JP Morgan?
Or did he say, you know,
like those all blend together in everyone's mind.
So you can just be like oh no
you misheard me well i i said jp morgan chase he's he's weaponized our lack of interest in those jobs
uh to his you know maximum effect and impact because all of that everything i just said
out loud about him is bullshit it turns out the new New York times decided to do just some of the oppo research
the Democrats could have done during the campaign and found out pretty much nothing he said is true
except for his name and that he was Brazilian, both NYU and Barrick university, where he went,
he said that both universities said, we have no record of anyone with that name or date of birth
attending Goldman and city group. They were asked about his employment they said we have never heard of him and have no record of his
employment what about his family's firm there's no records of it there's not even a fucking fake
website or a linkedin page like you can't you could google it and find out that this thing
doesn't exist there's also no record of his real estate holdings, unless you count the two times he's been evicted from apartments as a holding of an L, I guess.
I don't know.
And then that charity that he ran, which is called Friends of Pets United.
The New York Times asked the IRS, is this like a tax exempt charity?
Or do you know this as an entity?
They said, no.
You're talking about FOPU?
Yeah, FOPU. Oh, FOPU. Oh're talking about FOPU? Yeah, FOPU.
Oh, FOPU.
Oh, yeah, FOPU.
Oh, FOPU.
Yeah, or it sounds like a really shitty soccer team.
But yeah, Friends of Pets United is not real.
And then Pulse nightclub shooting.
He said he had four employees of his companies that died,
that were victims in that shooting.
They could not find a single connection to any of his fake firms.
How do you
pick the number four that's so many people that's a lot but again the only thing that is true is
that he's brazilian because they did find a record he was arrested when he was 19 because he stole a
checkbook from an elderly man that his mom was taking care of yeah just con artist like criminal yeah yeah like this is yeah he just told a lie one day
that somebody believed and just kept building on it i do want to like find like it would be great
to take a look around his office to see if he was just like pulling things off of random flyers and
shit like i mean it's really what we deserve.
Yeah.
Right?
Gold Man and City Group.
He sees like a fake Oscar statue.
Gold Man and City.
Looks out the window.
City.
And then there's a barbershop quartet for some reason.
Group.
Group.
And Friends of Manchester.
No, Pets United is is what i was my charity but it's so no one has responded for comment like not even like kevin mccarthy where they're like uh do you
know about this fucking mess that y'all just welcomed in or santos hasn't said anything but
it's just such it's so wild to think that the dem just got mopped up by someone with like the flimsiest
personal lie of a backstory like and i think a really good testament to how fucking all over
the place their spending was in the midterms like why new york was one of the biggest reasons why
the house was able to get a majority uh for the republic look they're addicted to taking l's
yeah yeah like and this is like a shows like, oh, you must have been
fiended for one because this one, I bet this one's
hitting different. Not even Google?
You didn't even Google his name?
They were like, look, he's gay and Brazilian. We can't
win.
Don't look up anything else about him.
Wow.
It's just like not
even one thing.
He's not like building on a thing where he was like yeah he like worked as worked in the mail room at city bank for a month or like
when people lie about having like these like wild art pieces like from like the mid-century where
they're like yeah this was before they were famous. They actually rented a room. From my great grandmother.
And he paid with these pieces of art.
And like there's so many people.
Who use that to like explain provenance.
Of like shitty fake art.
It's like the same thing.
It's like yeah you know.
Just trust me.
It's very murky.
The Dems are the real grifters.
Because their grift is to lose.
So they can keep begging the rest of us for money.
Yeah. That we don't have
because the Dems keep losing and not giving us anything.
Yeah. Hey, come on,
man. This is desperate.
I remember the day of the special election with
Warnock. They were like, we're
fucked, man. We got it. We need
money. I'm like, the election is today.
What the fuck are you going to do with that right now?
Yeah. Get out of my fucking place. You think I've got got money to give you i'm not giving y'all money for that
like why don't you why don't you figure out delivering on half the shit so anyway
new york dams great to see you guys not even can't even do fucking oppo over there but it also is
this the most american profession like is this the profession of our time? Like that, you know, for a long time, it was like really impressive to have like military service or like be a military
leader. That was like what got you elected to office. And then it was there was like some
military, some CIA mixed in there. And then it was like, you know, lawyer, businessman,
football coach was a thing that people really vibed with. But I do feel like what, you know, lawyer, businessman, football coach was a thing that people really vibed with.
But I do feel like what, you know, the thing that America is built on is just the grift and like confidence games like that is essentially at its core what America is at this point.
So like is should he just not retire?
Should he extra be a elected official at this point?
Should he just not retire? Should he extra be a elected official at this point? Because like this is, you know, Trump is probably the best case or best example of this. Right. He like he is at his fullest, truest form right now, creating NFD baseball cards like that's what he chose to do with the power that he was granted.
what he chose to do with the power that he was granted.
Like, maybe this is just,
this is where Republicans and Democrats should be looking for their next talent,
is, you know, people who get, like,
a good grift going on GoFundMe
by, like, claiming that they're dying
and getting people to pay, like,
millions of dollars for their treatment.
Baby, that's the American dream. Right. So right right so like is that should they be our politicians like is george santos
onto something i mean look if you're if your grift is being like bootstraps bootstraps and
you make up a story and getting everyone to believe i mean that's what trump did too
like y'all his shit's made up yeah he's a fake he's
a fake rich guy i think it's very uh easy to be like hey i'm this and and just hope nobody checks
i think this guy is more of a story we should look up to because he was broke and pretended
do you think he's really gay or brazilian it sounds like he is wanted by the authorities in Brazil. So that may be real.
But who knows?
Here's what's going to happen.
They're going to make a limited miniseries about this guy.
Exactly.
And we're all going to laugh it off.
Starring Jared Leto.
Who would you cast as Santos?
Marco Rubio.
He kind of looks like Marco Rubioio but if i had to pick someone now
i don't know i don't know you know it wouldn't be i would leave that to anna she's she's about
the prestige yeah yeah prestige casting yeah we can't look and in this cut channel that i'm going
timothy chalamet oh timothy chalamet interesting i need to i need to look at george santos i'm i'm i've
chosen not to let like when you don't watch the trailer for a movie because you don't want it
spoiled i've chosen not to even look at a picture of george i just saw a picture of him and he is
exactly what i would have imagined he looks like yeah yeah he looks like every republican
yes he looks like a republican with like two signifiers that say, I am gay and also Brazilian.
Right, because his skin looks good.
He's got a nice quaff.
Like some nice earrings.
But anyway, that's where they're at at the moment. And I think it is kind of the same thing, like in every.
Like kind of you don't need much actual talent based industry, there's always like a path like that that presents itself.
Like I just think of like how so many people just go on reality shows because there's like, well, this is my stepstone into SpawnCon is I just need to be on this show, act a fool, and then I get SpawnCon.
So everybody's got their own way.
Maybe I think whoever's the villain on the next season of The Bachelor, just let them be a sitting congressperson. be on this show act a fool and then i get spawn con so everybody's got their own way maybe i think
whoever's the villain on the next season of the bachelor just let them be a sitting congressperson
yeah it's just through sheer audacity like that's that's the thing that gets you through more than
talent or anything like that it's just boldly lying yeah and i think people just desensitize
to the fact that people who are wholly unqualified for things are running. I don't know. There's people just like are like, oh, yeah, maybe he's full of shit. But isn't like everybody like we're just like so deflated about it. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah. Shame on that campaign for gay candidate for the Democrats. But I forget what his name was.
It is.
Oh, Robert Zimmerman.
Yeah, that's who he ran against.
Because that was because the person who had the seat wanted to go against.
Robert Zimmerman? Bob Dylan?
That is Bob Dylan's real name.
Yeah.
He's running against Bob?
Bobby D?
One of our top icons of the 20th century.
Also a great grifter.
Convinced everybody he was a good singer.
Oh, fuck out of here, Jack.
Are we going to fight?
I love Bob Dylan.
He is a great singer.
He's a great songwriter.
A great performer.
Have you heard of Nashville Skyline, my friend?
He just wills himself
to singing well. I'm just saying.
That's the American dream.
Exactly. That's what I'm saying.
He's, I think,
by his own account, a bit of a con man.
Well,
he would own up to it, at least.
Yeah.
The Wallflowers and Jacob Dillon?
Podcasters. yeah nah fuck that it's jacob dylan and the wallflowers that's right can't even spell podcaster without con
true right yeah okay well there's no end there's no way but you can spell cod i just i was just
willing you to not think about it you can't spell
podcaster without cop yeah a cap does include podcasters all right let's take a quick break
we'll be right back
hey i'm gianna pradente and i'm jim Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline,
a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
When you're just starting out in your career,
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Girl, yes.
Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
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I'm Jess Cosavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series
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And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
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Up first, I explore
the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about
women's basketball just because of one
single game. Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys. I just come here
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She is unapologetically black.
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And we're back.
And while we were on break, Molly did a little oppo, huh?
A little oppo research.
What else did you learn about our man George Santos?
He said he told some press that he is a non-observant Jew, but also aolic there you go you know what he's just like me for real just like me for real for real literally that's me wait so but was your
mom uh did she flee to brazil from ukraine because of world war ii which is how he says his mother is
jewish because she descends from Jews who fled Eastern Europe to Brazil.
Do you have a similar story or no?
I mean, we fled Germany to America.
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, yeah. Vote for me. I'm running.
Vote for me. Yeah, I'm also Catholic, y'all. Don't get it twisted.
Non-observant Jew and lapsed Catholic.
That's me. That's me.
That's great.
It me. You're like... And a log cabin Republican.
great it me you're like and a log cabin republican everyone knows i care about two things being gay and getting rid of everyone's rights yes
why are they called the log cabin republicans the gay republicans i don't really understand
i probably lincoln something with because lincoln's gay because everybody knows that
lincoln was gay so they're just like yeah we get it the right wing doesn't acknowledge that lincoln was maybe gay
maybe parts fit too i don't know lincoln was so cool he was like really tall and depressed
he's like bo burnham i know oh first they were known as the lincoln club and then there already
was a group using that name the the Lincoln Club of Orange County.
So then they went with Log Cabin.
Was it because of the Lincoln love letters?
Could be.
I mean, I don't know if they're tying a direct line, but I don't know.
Is it a wink?
They probably have good enough SEO that they're not letting that just dangle out there like some common George Santos.
Where do they stand on circumcision? letting that just dangle out there like some common George Santos.
Where do they stand on circumcision? That's what I really need to know.
That's all we need to know. Do you go to the non-observant Jewish house or the lapsed Catholic side? I'm a one-issue voter in this household. I'm a one-issue voter.
What are we doing New Year's? Who's getting circumcised?
All right. Let's talk about Walmart briefly, continuing with the trend
that we saw a lot of in 2022, where, you know, the CEO of Walmart recently went on TV and complained
about a rise in shoplifting, claiming that this will lead to higher prices and closed stores if
people don't cut it out. And just like the idea that shoplifting is this massive out of control problem and that it is the problem driving inflation and rather than like rampant inequality and inflation driving shoplifting is a crazy, super counterintuitive leap that the mainstream media just swallowed.
Whole hog. They just swallowed. Whole hog.
They just swallowed it this year.
They love that shoplifting narrative.
They do.
Oh, they got to.
Because it gives you the think of the corporations and their bottom line.
They locked up all the razors and stuff because they were like, it's so crazy when you go in a store now and like everything's locked up.
Everything's locked up.
It has tags on it.
Like I went into a Walmart and even the guns are locked up now you can't even
just like take out a gun and like cock it and like you know twirl it around it's bullshit thanks joe
biden but again the holiday season is the time that we like to think about giant corporations
that are less fortunate than ourselves so it is a good time for him to be
putting this out there for us. But it turns out it's probably bullshit. First of all,
this is bullshit coming from a man who makes more than $25 million a year and just gave himself a
huge raise. But also Walmart's relationship to shoplifting is super fucked. They've been claiming
since 2015 that thieves were damaging their earnings
they claimed that they lost three billion dollars a year from theft three billion dollars a year
people are shoplifting which is again about one percent of their $300 billion in revenue. But first of all, people who know anything are like, that's an absurd estimate.
They are getting worse at stacking their shelves.
They are trying to cut down on the number of employees they have.
And so they just are worse at managing inventory. And so they and they have a thing. There's a thing called shrinkage in that world where it's like any any loss of property that can't be accounted for any loss of inventory that can't be accounted for. They just put in the shrinkage category and they're like that's all people shoplifting hire more cops
not us having not enough staff to do our inventory properly and things are falling
through the cracks but we can just call it t even yeah yeah and anything all the other parts of
shrinkage like improper techniques to like just account for where your inventory is that all is like a negative in a business's
you know reporting to wall street whereas theft you can just be like it's out of our hands people
and also you get the media to like double down on pro-police pro-retail narratives that are good for them and nobody else literally nobody else right but the
other reason that people so shoplifting has gone up in recent years and it's hand in hand with the
fact that they have decided to increase their self-checkouts oh so automation they've tried
to automate more of the checkout process and that is when they introduce the self-checkouts. Oh, so automation. They've tried to automate more of the checkout process.
And that is... Look, Brown,
when they introduced the self-checkout...
It was a wrap. They're asking you to steal.
They're asking you. They're inviting you
to steal. Oh, nothing. None of this
produces organic. Motherfuckers.
It's a regular potato. No, the Daily Zeitgeist,
nobody is just saying you should
definitely steal from Walmart and Target
and other companies like that.
But.
Oh, of course not.
If one were to at the self-checkout, perhaps first accidentally a couple of times and then realizing that you could just do it and not get in trouble.
Maybe especially during the pandemic when Target was helping the cops a lot and you were mad at them as a company, but also needed things to live.
Right.
You just, you know, switch some barcodes up here and there you just miss a couple things yeah you check out yeah however i have heard from some people i also don't do this anymore i did just
do it a lot during the pandemic because i was kind of like no rules just right some people say
if you steal enough stuff from the self-checkout that they are actually keeping track of it.
And it goes on your permanent record.
When you hit a certain number, they come for you.
But I don't know if that's just to make you paranoid.
I think that might be just to make you paranoid.
That requires them to pay way too much attention.
Here's what I know.
The teenagers who work there, they don't give a fuck.
They don't give a fuck.
No.
And they have good weed, too.
Yeah.
And as teenagers, they're pro-vice.
Yeah.
Any teenager that works for a giant company,
we've all done, if we've, in your teenage job,
you go, this is a faceless company.
No, it's just like, I've never been a,
I never was a shoplifter in my life because uh half-lapsed catholic yeah and one time stole a
zodiac scroll accidentally a horse scroll when i was a child and then my grandma my catholic
grandmother made me go give it back truly i have enough catholicism on one side that i really
believe if i do something bad something bad's gonna going to happen to me. Wow, that's cool. Isn't that cool? It's the best. But just enough Judaism
to also be sexually not fucked up. Nope. That must be nice for you.
Sex, not one of the things that I think of as bad that'll make bad things happen. Right.
And where are you on hell? Hell doesn't, I'm mixed you know i don't really believe in hell i don't really believe in it
but you know who's not going to hell is shoplifters that's true absolutely not because
truly it's like les miserables like if somebody needs to steal some bread to live yeah but they're
losing three billy a year molly you know isn't well hasn't walmart gotten in
trouble like a million times for being racist too yeah oh yeah the worst like who are they
saying stealing to like i just feel like the whole thing is like uh it's so 80s yeah like
welfare queen stuff it's like oh they're living high on the hog off of like stealing fucking bread from walmart well yeah you know
it was very racial especially like when the whole like shoplifting ring footage was coming out on
the cops it's out of control it was always black and brown faces totally you know the stuff in like
i feel like a lot of the reporting i've heard on this stuff is like san francisco yeah like tech Like San Francisco. Yeah. Like tech people being like horrified that there's crime in a city that has insane wealth disparities.
Like.
Yeah.
We just all live in fucking Gotham now.
It sucks.
Well, that's the thing.
Like in L.A. too.
It's just so many people who don't want to be confronted with the actual inequality that exists in the world.
Can I just have my visuals sterilized, please?
I don't need to be reminded that.
That's what I mean.
I mean, that was the crazy thing about the Caruso campaign, too,
was all the rich people coming out being like,
I don't like to see that poverty is a problem here.
So could you please just, like, put everyone in a concentration camp
so I don't have to think about it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But anyways, just a couple, like, shoplifting,
we'll call them horror stories and
in no way are meant to give you ideas but these are people who flew a little close to the sun
james a cashier in washington says he saw a customer trying to buy a 1600 grill for five
dollars by hiding one item inside the other and switching the barcodes and then they also mentioned that you can bring up
king crab legs and
like accidentally put them
in as apples. These are things that people
have done before.
The crab legs thing
is like extremely
dog whistly too.
Right, to be like
a bunch of fat cats.
Yeah, yeah, totally. totally but also that's a
good but that's a good come up that's a really good come up and also you can get crab really
cheap actually at like some some sgv grocery stores i feel like oh yeah yeah you gotta go
yeah you can't go to the main like the big kroger type go to a chinese grocery store get some get
some cheap crab um i don't how much like do they fucking sell crab at walmart like oh yeah i got all my crab at walmart
crab and guns at walmart my top seafood purveyor yeah they got it all i do just want to mention
their ceo bragged that going fully automated would save 12 million dollars in cash cashier wages
for every second it reduces in checkout and so they basically they
fired a bunch of humans replaced them with robots that were stupid to save money and now they're
upset that they're losing a fraction of their excessive profits because humans are able able
to easily trick their easily fooled stupid robots and that's the system that they find themselves in it's all
it's all self-created there's also a weird thing where they have like this for-profit business that
they partner with that is like a re-education for shoplifters so they will if you are, if they think you've shoplifted something and, you know, they will approach you, the Walmart security.
They'll tell you, hey, we could either, we got two options here.
We could call the police or you can avoid arrest by taking an online class, admitting that you shoplifted and take an online class.
So you're telling me they're filtering shoplifters into a for-profit business?
Yes.
Yeah.
They're getting people to shoplift.
How much is that class?
Is that class free?
Like if I take the class and everything's forgiven or do I have to pay money for the class?
It costs $500.
Oh my God.
If you had $500, would you be shoplifting?
Exactly.
Come on, guys.
There's like an inherent vice
when they're selling heroin so they can
fix people's teeth when they fall
out from heroin.
It's like you're selling the
problem and the cure.
Fuck you, Walmart.
That is so fucking wild, too, that they're like,
yeah, watch this, bro. We'll use the threat
of the carceral state to give them
for them to come up on like
500 bucks yeah fuck you walmart shockingly a judge went when there was a class action lawsuit
being like they're making us like pay money if they if we like miss an item on the self-checkout
this is a a judge through that case this is officially a pro shoplifting podcast now
wait did did the judge wait the judge threw it out because. This is officially a pro-shoplifting podcast now. Wait, did the judge
threw it out because
there was evidence to suggest
that this wasn't happening or because
this judge was just...
Found no proof of a nationwide conspiracy to steer
accused shoplifters into paying $400 up
front or $500 in installments
for classes from...
No, no, no. Just that it's not
a... It didn't rise to the level of nationwide.
Oh, like, got it.
Got it.
But it was happening in one of the stores.
Got it.
It's just, you know, another for profit carceral business.
Because that's basically what you do.
Like, you know, in other countries, when cops shake you down for money, it's just sort of like, all right, we caught you, motherfucker.
Now give me some money, bro.
Because you know what time it is.
Like this store just kind of copied that model to be like i got you man well i'm gonna start doing a thing where
they're like okay we caught you shoplifting now you're in the army
now you work as a security team member at walmart
well it's like that thing i feel like this is a big you don't really see this anymore
but you know just like the idea of like you you can't pay for your meal and then you have to go
wash dishes in the back yeah the thing that's never happened to anyone i know actually right
because i think they would just call the cops they wouldn't be like hey man you can work it
off they'd be like i think it happened to one writer in the 60s and then once that was
depicted in film everyone's like yeah i feel like it might even be a great depression trope of like
people really can't pay for their meals and so or like singing for your supper yeah or crying for
your supper don't get me started on don't get me to bring up the automat documentary again like i did last time i was on this podcast i still gotta watch that but i did actually i talked to my parents about the automat
documentary because i talked about how that documentary had this insane narrative where
it like blamed the homeless for the downfall of the automat because it was like poor people
started going there and it ruined everything and my dad who's from new york was like there were always poor
people there were always you called them bums before right homeless people they were they were
bums you know but he said there were always people who couldn't really afford a meal making a meal at
the automat out of like the free crackers and ketchup right yeah and we should have places like that in the fucking world for people that don't have
anything to like get a meal absolutely until we have that gradual shift we have the self-checkout
at walmart where you might be walmart should like feed you for free like they should not be like
well the good news is that you can pay for your re-education shoplifting classes in 500 but you can pay
for it in installments well this is why we support costco because costco they've got that really
cheap hot dog yeah that's right and everything's too heavy to steal exactly that's how they stop
shoplifting yeah this should look like a crossfit exercise absolutely get caught trying to steal
anything from there because it's all too much stuff.
They're also, they check your ID coming in the door and then really look at your receipt on the way out.
This is the one place I've never even thought about shoplifting.
No, truly, there's nothing small enough.
I would never shoplift from Costco because they've got that surveillance state in there that freaks me out.
Target and Walmart?
I've thought about putting a rotisserie chicken down one of the legs of my baggy JNCO jeans.
Okay, that's real Great Depression cartoon behavior.
You're going to make a mulligan stew with it?
Well, Molly, as always, truly a pleasure having you on Daily Zeitgeist.
Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Well, you can find me for the time being on Twitter still,
at Molly Lambert, until whenever it blows up for real.
And you can find me on Instagram, at Molly underscore Lambert,
where you can find timely hot takes from me,
such as Bob Dylan's Christian album, New New Morning is a Hanukkah album.
Wow. Okay. Let them know.
And check out
Heidi World if you haven't listened to it yet.
My Magnum Opus.
Yeah. And the
Fablemans. Check out the Fablemans. Another
story about a Jewish family
just trying to get by.
And is there
a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying
i always like that red panda bot that's the thing i'm really gonna miss when twitter goes down
is like yeah i got a lot of animal bots in my feed that just are like here's some red pandas
hanging out it's like red panda every hour i believe yeah they're always good it's good and also i saw an article that
the black bears are getting red or turning red turning a cinnamon color so gender dominance
there you go the world burns wow is that because it's on its way to becoming a crab
yes it's crabification you know because like it has to i guess but crabs only read after they're
cooked i don't know look i'm still working that conspiracy theory on we're all red deep down
that's what i'm starting to say we're all ginger inside in our blood that's right that's the truth
miles where can people find you what's the tweet you better enjoy uh twitter instagram at miles of
gray check us out on our basketball podcast. Jack and Miles got mad boosties.
You see how I flipped that?
I said Jack and Miles.
And also catch me on 420 Day Fiance
with Sophia Alexander talking 90 Day Fiance.
Some tweets I like.
First one is from DJ Fuck at Eggshelf.
Not to be so dumb,
but like where does the candle go when it burns
you know that's a well-articulated thought that i've had uh when i was younger uh at
dwayne perkins tweeted my mother handed me a grocery bag and said i don't carry things when
men are around and she did not find it nearly as funny as me when i said girl me neither and let
the bag hit the ground as i sassily walked away and defunkunk at defunk, P-H-U-N-K, tweeted, I ate at the cafe at Ikea for the first time
in my life today.
I wasn't aware that the mashed potatoes were hidden like that.
Do people go to Ikea just to eat?
Yes, they do.
They fucking do.
Except for that time they got caught having horse meat meatballs.
Yeah, but that was just in Europe.
So, you know, the Burbank one
was still okay. But look, I would eat it too.
You can get defensive about Bob Dylan if you just let me
be defensive of the IKEA meatballs. Thank you.
Let me have my IKEA meatballs and my subway
tuna, okay? And then everything else
we can debate.
If I want to eat mushed up newspapers.
Yeah, hell yeah.
That's what it is. Mushed up newspapers.
Mushed up newspapers.
Damn, if it's not good. Yeah, mushed up And that's what it is. Mushed up newspapers. Mushed up newspapers. Mushed up newspapers.
Damn, if it's not good.
Yeah, mushed up newspapers and a mayo sauce.
It's fine.
It's fine.
And then at Sasha Chapin tweeted,
MDMA is a profound and fickle drug.
It has the potential to make deeply traumatized people love themselves,
and yet millions take it in the wrong circumstances and end up loving only European techno.
But, you know, there's healing on the
way there too if you're if you're open to it let's see uh by the way jack we we couldn't name it jack
and miles got mad boosties because jack and miles is just what everybody calls you when you get out
there on the court because this guy really tosses it up he's shooting from all over on the court
he's jacking it up or it's a real
they're like is this about pod is this about basketball please have me on boosties sometime
i would love to talk about a sport i know nothing about yes absolutely i have this belief that's
just i mean you know i did work at espn yeah do nothing having to do with sports there ever.
But I do just have this belief in myself that I could be a great color commentator.
Oh, you would be great.
We should have you on for the finals.
Everybody's ready to discuss very specific things.
I'm going to bring a Fred Willard energy.
Who's that?
Oh, I love that.
What's he about?
What's his thing?
What happened? What happened? What do you call that that was my what was that in a a mighty wind when i was just like hey what happened
yeah god bless ready you can find me on twitter at jack underscore O'Brien. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Amy Lee Gemstone, lolangui, tweeted,
Go to Avatar 2 and never bet against James Cameron.
You're way into some floor mattress dick.
Good advice.
Good way to spend your weekend.
And Melissa Broder tweeted,
Thank you so much for the kind words.
I don't believe them.
And that's real.
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song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy uh this is from the beat maker frank dukes who's now like not going as like frank dukes the
producer who's worked with a lot of artists but is now i think going as ginge because we're talking
about ginger dominus j-i-n-g or g-i-n-g i think it's gang is it gang now i literally just met
this guy you You did?
Okay, so he's Ging now?
Yeah.
Okay.
Because I remember when he won the Red Bull Beat Battle in 2010 and then was on.
He made a track with Ghostface and then took off from there and worked with so many top artists.
I just met him.
He was skating down the street and he knew my brother.
My brother said, hey, what's up?
And he said, I'm Ging.
And that's how I know.
Of course, Lambo knows them. But this
track is called The Prince of Noodles.
It's just a, I don't know, this
instrumental goes hard. Very interesting
dope producer who's now
going into their own, I guess, shifting careers
from producer to their own artist. So this is
The Prince of Noodles. Alright, we will
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