The Daily Zeitgeist - GOP Rot Continues, Subway’s Tuna Secret? 1.29.21

Episode Date: January 29, 2021

In episode 801, Jack and Miles are joined by Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Ridiculous History's Ben Bowlin to discuss Marjorie Taylor Greene, vaccine doses, online trading barriers set by Robi...nhood, Subway tuna, Candy Kraft Mac & Cheese, and more!FOOTNOTES: Taylor Greene tests McCarthy with caustic comments Marjorie Taylor Greene indicated support for executing prominent Democrats in 2018 and 2019 before running for Congress Health Workers, Stuck in the Snow, Administer Coronavirus Vaccine to Stranded Drivers Online investor army takes wallop with trading barriers Subway’s tuna is not tuna, but a ‘mixture of various concoctions,’ a lawsuit alleges Oh no oh no candy-flavored mac and cheese oh no Kraft unveils Valentine's Day mac 'n' cheese, social media responds Kraft mac and cheese is now a breakfast food, apparently 'Ain't no basic batch': Kraft Dinner launching pumpkin spice mac and cheese Angry Moms And QAnon Believers Attacked Kraft's "Send Noods" Campaign For Sexualizing Mac 'N' Cheese A single factory is now working 24/7 to keep Kraft Dinner on grocery shelves Kraft Heinz factories are working three shifts a day to keep up with demand Two Kraft Heinz workers test positive for coronavirus Marvelous Macaroni and Cheese Rationing WATCH: Domenique Dumont - Le Debut De La Fin Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:51 It's time? Yeah, it's time, baby. Yo, Daniel, it's time. Okay, Anna, it's time. Let's begin. Yo, straight out the L.A. Valley of rap, where the podcasters can make it back Yo, I don't know how to start this shit, yo Casters, I just flip them with the funky rhythm I be speaking, musician, playing off tuition No planes, I'm not traveling, not insane Holding the M16, see with the mic, I'm extreme
Starting point is 00:03:20 Now, cash rolls, left me no self-control i'm suited up in couch clothes hand me your mic and i'll defeat foes y'all know my stilo i'm fucking like m great wait hold on i gotta stop that that was too i'm getting out of my head now that was from that was too much fire discord juju i am singed are you serious juju with the new york state of mind meanwhile wow the virgo naz is in the building The Virgo Nas is in the building. Miles the Virgo is in the building. Prince Harry is here. Thank you for that, AKA.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Do you share a birthday with Nas, too? Nah, but you know. Just the Virgo. Same sign. Same sign. You know, same sign, same sign. That was beautiful. One of my favorite songs of all time.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Jumping out my chest right now. Especially when you realize in the beginning where I go, Ayo, Jack, it's time. Instead of, Ayo, Black, it's time. I was like, it's perfect. Even though they didn't have that in the thing, I was like, that's an easy pickup. Underrated move of him to say,
Starting point is 00:04:17 I don't know how to start this, and then just black out on the verse. Rap was a monkey, flip it with me. You're like, oh my God. Man, I don't know how to start this.. Man, I don't know how to start this. Turn around. I don't know how to start this. The microphone has been melted.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Yeah. Well, we are thrilled, Miles, and fortunate to be joined by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant, Mr. Ben Bowen! Oh!
Starting point is 00:04:42 What's up, man? What's up, guys? I didn't know. I should have prepared a beat That's crazy It's every time I always say it's a dip set Or a Jim Jones ballin We fly high
Starting point is 00:04:52 No lie you know it's Ben Bowlin Boom Bowlin You guys okay so we'll do a clap Bowlin dirty There we go We'll do a collaboration we can do a collab There we go We'll do a collaboration
Starting point is 00:05:07 We can do a posse track of some sort Yeah Yeah, I could actually Freestyle a little People who don't know They remember those rap battles that were going on You and Culture Kings Underground mixtape wars
Starting point is 00:05:22 Shout out Culture Kings. Yeah, they had some great stuff there. But yeah, thanks for having me back on, guys. This is the, I think the third time, maybe? Yeah. Yeah, so if SNL rules hold true, then I'm two away from that special suit jacket. And then in the meantime, I prepared prepared a little so i am not going
Starting point is 00:05:46 to just ramble about quesadillas everybody come on man we were we were ready for some hot quesadilla content all right ben we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about uh we're gonna talk about marjorie taylor green uh she's got some spicy takes in the old uh tweet history and like history so personal history her just personal uh her ideas are interesting uh so we're gonna talk about that we're gonna talk about just how how we're dealing with the rollout uh the sort of half-assed apocalyptic uh way that we're dealing with the rollout, the sort of half-assed, apocalyptic way that we're dealing with the rollout of the vaccine. We're going to talk about Frank Biden.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I didn't know that this administration had its own Frank Stallone. Oh, yeah, baby. We got one, baby. We're going to talk about Robin Hood stopping trading on GameStop and other highly shorted funds. We're going to talk about Subway Tuna, Miles.
Starting point is 00:06:49 This is a subject close to your heart. Some might say is my heart. Mostly. You're a Subway guy? He's a Subway Tuna guy. Subway Tuna, more specifically. I don't eat the other stuff there.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And if we have time, there's something going on with the Kraft company that is worrying. So we're going to look into their latest product, which is pink candy flavored mac and cheese, which is not okay am i yeah i'm out i'm out guys uh but before we get before we get to any of that ben yeah we like to ask our guests what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh so recently i got really into the Marshall Islands. I was looking into the Runnit Dome, which is a nuclear waste scam that the U.S. pulled on that country where they didn't just take all the junk from their nuclear test
Starting point is 00:07:56 that they did in the Marshall Islands and put it there. They also dug up a bunch of contaminated, radioactive shit in Nevada and then shipped it off to the Marshall Islands. They covered it with concrete. I got really deep into reading about that. It's depressing.
Starting point is 00:08:12 It's a little bit of a downer. But it also led me into these files about when this stuff got classified, declassified, when the American public knew about it versus when the Marshall Island folks knew about it. And yes, now my search history is looking weirdly specific for my NSA guy. Right. But, you know, without that, we would have no Godzilla. It's a good point. You know, as I remember the Jean Reno 90s version of the film with Matthew Broderick, I feel like the beginnings are showing all the nuclear tests and the marshall and a lizard's like, and then we have Godzilla. Let's just leave it there.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, that's true. And maybe I'm being unfair, Miles. Maybe this is something that I need to work on. But they're doing some good things. It's strange because there was a treaty signed back in – or a compact signed in 1986 saying that the Marshall Island population would be paid billions of dollars for all this stuff that happened. And to date, I believe the U.S. government has paid about $4 million since 1986. So I'm being a downer, but again, something other than quesadillas. I'm working on it, guys. So this is where the Bikini Atoll is.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah, it's where they just tested nuclear weapons for a long time. In addition to the nevada desert uh yeah any like at sea nuclear blast footage you've seen like from history class that's from the marshall and it's like that's what i was remembering like oh that that from the from the blow-up tapes yeah yeah yeah not to be confused with the blow-up tapes which will be the new mixtape yeah yeah right right drop interpod hip-hop battles of course um they also the the nevada desert ones are interesting because that used to be one of the uh attractions of las vegas was you could see mushroom clouds off in the distance they had a miss uh nuclear explosion
Starting point is 00:10:21 or miss mushroom cloud uh celebration in las vegas at one point in i think the 50s before it was just like they didn't they didn't know what they were doing or they were like children with a handgun you know yeah that's wild come on kids give this uranium rod a hug vegas baby i never thought i'd say it, but I thought I missed Vegas like last week. And I really thought about it. And I think I just missed the idea of Vegas or going places, you know. But man, I would go to 1950s Vegas, watch some mushroom clouds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah, old Vegas. Is that one other clip, the famous clip of like that wooden shack getting vaporized, is that from Nevada? I think so, yeah. I think so. I think that's from after the Trinity test, I want to say, which were the first detonations. But yeah, after that, they just went ham. They were all over the place. They went ham, and yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Then they went to Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the rest is history, y'all. Here we go um exactly the uh yeah there there's all sorts of wild shit where they just sent out uh troops to like to collect the fallout like as it was raining down from the sky uh there's like pictures of them like out there next, like posing next to the mushroom cloud. My last point though that's so messed up is that in the Marshall Islands case, the official rationale for doing this was like, well, we want to see what happens. You know, we got like, we got these boats and these ships. We're going to put the boats and the ships near the bombs. And you know, you know, man, what goes down
Starting point is 00:12:08 in that case? And they found out that it explodes the ships. They wanted to make sure that boats were not immune from nuclear blasts. Top minds, gentlemen. Top minds. minds yeah it is weird that they put sylvester stallone in charge of that initiative too much responsibility for a young boy the uh what the people who because like i know that the biggest the czar bomb uh was the biggest nuclear weapon ever tested and they tested uh russia tested that and
Starting point is 00:12:45 like siberia um so it was like somewhat depopulated or like there weren't people around what happened to the people who lived on the marshall islands like oh so uh in in the beginning uh the navy went to one atoll and it was relatively sparsely populated only about only a little more than 58 000 people live in the islands now but they went to this one atoll and they said look we need to test some stuff and we need you all to make a sacrifice and leave because this is the will of god that's what they literally said to them. They were really trying, they were running a game. And when those people were evacuated, luckily they weren't at ground zero there of those first tests.
Starting point is 00:13:34 But the thing is, Fallout doesn't know borders. It doesn't care which island someone lives on. So the entirety of, especially the northern atolls, were contaminated to some degree. And as a result, you know, you can see the immediate effects, radiation poisoning, sickness, burns. But the other stuff doesn't come in to play until like decades later. So they're still dealing with that. I mean, it's a very real thing.
Starting point is 00:14:03 There are people who are alive who are suffering from that. But the U.S., you know, I don't want to paint people who are alive in the U.S. in the worst light at that time because they didn't really know. This was just some more NIMBY shit, basically. Yeah. The U.S., the worst Airbnb guest. They're like, hey, can we borrow this place for a little bit? We're going to do just a small get small get together for my bible study group and then they come in it's a fucking sex party hey you signed the deal baby sorry we're out here's 20 bucks the sex party is a nuclear bomb
Starting point is 00:14:38 but yeah the people of the marshall islands um i i always wanted to go there, and I'm still trying to figure out when the best time to go is because that dome is in danger of collapsing, rising sea levels. I picked a real downer for search history. Man, that's what – we've got a lot of stuff to cover that is – It's going to be worse than that. That's happening now. Hey! Good call.
Starting point is 00:15:04 In real time. Oh, boy. Ben, what is something you think is underrated? That AKA Jack, that AKA that Miles did at the beginning. I changed my answer. All right. That was sick. I'm not blowing smoke.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I was not expecting that. Well, thank you for, because you changed it from your original one, which is Marjorie Taylor Greene, right? Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to stop sharing. Got some interesting points. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Would you have, I know you had something prepared. Don't flatter me now. Don't say you're prepared. And then you hit me with that improv compliment. All right. Before, before, uh, before I was astounded by that verse, I was thinking about how awesome road trips are. I really miss those i took a i took a road trip uh not too too long ago uh and then i just recently took another one
Starting point is 00:15:54 that that kind of failed we have we have a thing called 285 in atlanta it's just an interstate that goes in a circle uh because we thought it would be neat, I guess. And so I got out on the road because like a lot of people, I'm tired of being inside. But, you know, it's the right thing to do in most cases. And so I got on the road. I got on the interstate and I was driving. And I was like, huh, where am I going to go? What am I going to – I could go east.
Starting point is 00:16:26 I could go – I got days, you know, before I turn around. And then I realized while I was trying to decide what happened or where I was going to go, I had just driven in a circle around the city. And I was like, well, that's, I guess that's my road trip. Saw the sights. Yeah. And I thought that was underrated. That was cool.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I wonder if that's a Southern city thing. Because Lexington, Kentucky, the most Southern city I ever lived in, had a place called New Circle Road that was just built the exact same way. Just a loop that went around the city. Isn't Chicago a loop too? Yeah. Another Southern city. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Everyone knows the great migration south to Chicago. Yeah. Everyone knows the great migration South to Chicago. Yeah. I mean, cause LA, LA is just too fucking sprawling for anything like that. There's just, but that's why I have 7 billion fucking freeways and shit. I miss LA man.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I, I, you know, I would go there pretty, pretty frequently to hang out with you guys and some of our colleagues. And I still never got a chance to see the whole city. I remember the first time I came to the LA studio and I was talking with you guys about something.
Starting point is 00:17:35 I asked a question about the neighborhood. I was like, where's something good to eat? And everybody had these great suggestions. And I was like, okay, okay well do you guys like do people live around this area and i got the most like friendly kind but pitying stare and response and they were like fuck no dude this is hollywood don't live here no don't no one lives here it's old it's only confused tourists who thinks the place that they know out loud hollywood is a place to stay no it's not even a place to visit let's be real right but i mean i
Starting point is 00:18:12 but to your original point about just getting out of the house i uh had to go to the hospital this morning to get something cut off my leg and uh not to cut off my leg but just a little chunk uh and it was like it put me in a good mood to like see people like even in that environment of going into the hospital i'm like just seeing a nurse like being able to chat it up with a nurse and a physician's assistant it was it's kind of fun oh man yeah maybe it's yeah maybe it's not. Yeah, my leg's good. Okay. You okay? Yeah, all good. I'm like, wait, hold on, Jack.
Starting point is 00:18:52 This man got surgery and was like, get me the hell out of here. I got to do my show. Yeah, he's cut something off my leg. It's just a little. We don't know what it is. We'll find out. I'll give you guys an update on the lab results, but we think it's just a mole. Yeah, something like that oh wow well uh congratulations hopefully uh also also maybe maybe you know what it is maybe it's maybe
Starting point is 00:19:12 what i'm really thinking is underrated isn't isn't road trips necessarily that's just the genre of the real thing which is going outside like you go to the grocery store now i don't know how it is in la you go to the grocery store now you realize for so many of us that's the big event of the day oh and we got these masks on so everybody's got an air of mystery there's like this this weird pent-up kind of horny energy that people have and i'm like in the produce section like lay dude people stop staring at me i'm just picking up the some squash everyone's not like like cruising. They're like, hey, huh? You're like, what? No.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Where are the Pepperidge Farms apple strudels at? The frozen ones. Okay. All right, bro. Yeah. Exactly. You're like, what's this motherfucker kissing noise? Right.
Starting point is 00:19:59 It could be like a can of beans. Like, hey, excuse me. Where are the beans? I'm like, oh, you like the beans, huh? Where are the beans, huh? You want to blow your beans for you what blow your beans what uh nothing where aisle three aisle three uh so that's why i would say it's underrated and i think a lot of us can agree with that just i started that's the one i was talking about how i don't wear pants and shit i mean like not like traditional pants like sweatpants and basketball shorts is my new leg covering.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I like wore an outfit to the fucking pet store the other day. I was like, I have not coordinated my clothing in almost one year. And I was like, away we go. And I walked into that motherfucker. Staying alive was playing in my head. Fucking cat litter and shit. I was fucking feeling it i gotta say though my like i don't know what that says about me because you come to the zoom in different clothes every day looking good i cut like i've worn this same sweatshirt
Starting point is 00:20:58 three days in a row now uh and jack the pants have not changed man well pants why would you change your pants everything yeah it's a it's an issue here at the house i treat pants the way bernie sanders treats coats at this right you know what i mean i got one good solid pair right um but yeah it like one way i gauge how like monotonous something has become is like how well i remember where i parked and like i know because i only go to the one grocery store and like that's the only place my brain knows that it goes other than my house uh i now it's like a blur where i don't remember where i parked because i've been only there uh so many times and it's uh but man
Starting point is 00:21:46 i remembered where i parked at the hospital today it was crisp walked right to it made some lifelong friends yeah right got the physician's assistant following you on twitter yeah no i i just hit up the physician's assistant was like sucks, sucks. Who is this? I'm sorry. Jack from earlier. Leg guy. Leg guy. Leg guy.
Starting point is 00:22:11 You watch basketball or not? All right, cool. What do you think, man? If Embiid did that foul on LeBron, would he get injected? Anyway, whatever. Injected. Exactly. Injected.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Sorry. I don't know how you guys do. Yeah, by the way, we haven't talked a couple of nights ago. The Sixers went up against the Lakers. Big rivalry. Hey, Ben, what is something you think is overrated? Well, I think we'll obviously get into this later. But with great delight i say
Starting point is 00:22:46 robin hood the financial trading app that was an answer i had from earlier and i was like i was writing this stuff down last night because you know i've got i think we all have kind of schemey friends right i got i got some schemey friends who are always like you know we're literally talking very big things uh about financial plans to me and i look around and like we're both at the same dive bar man we're splitting the same chicken wings like you're not you're not monocle top hat level yet right but uh but then i broke over here go. Yes. That was a deep cut. Yeah, yeah. The thing is, a lot of these folks who are really my friends, they were texting me.
Starting point is 00:23:34 They were going wild. We're talking about this a little bit off air about Robin Hood, like how it was helping them fight the man. And I didn't trust it. And it turns out I was't trust it. Uh, and it turns out I was kind of right later this morning. I figured that out. Uh, and yeah, Robin hood's overrated.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Uh, and I, I hate to say things are overrated, but in this case it's a hundred percent accurate because as soon as people were, um, doing something that Robin hood didn't want them to do that that free market shit went straight out the window real quick. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Did we ever advertise them? I feel like we did at one point. I think like in the early days. Yeah. I think that was every podcast. Every podcast. Media days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I did too. I did too. And now, you know, one of the shows that I host is critical thinking applied to conspiracy theories. And so it was weird to me that we would have Robin hood there because I was thinking like somebody is going to be listening at three in the morning. Are they going to, are they going to say, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 00:24:36 I'm glad we paused this thing about the ghost of Bigfoot. Cause I'm going to get real fucking into Fedex stock in a big way yeah yeah that's the overlap there yeah what's the demo yeah we'll talk about robin hood a little bit more but uh just so perfectly named uh just just nailed it in terms of uh well what we've what we've been talking about just the the people who are doing the most fucked up stuff are always claiming or accusing somebody else of doing the exact thing they're doing or giving themselves the antonym as a name for the thing they're doing. Zinn talks about in the People's History of the United States how the War Department changed its name to the Defense Department right when America started getting into proactive wars. So when America began doing non-defensive wars, they changed their name to the Defense Department. Nothing Orwellian about that. Yeah, you just call yourself the exact opposite of the truth and it does i mean when you look at the history of robin hood
Starting point is 00:25:51 it's like the name is really the only thing they had to indicate like that they were actually doing the thing they claim to be doing everything else is just they were a standard brokerage shitty firm. And follow the money. Yeah, yeah. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried
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Starting point is 00:31:00 like kind of kind of began all this conversation earlier in the week. And that's when you saw like, OK, this toilet is truly overflowing with all of her bullshit. Like you're just seeing the extent of it. Because before it's like, yeah, it's the QAnon lady. Her like ad when she was running for office, she was like holding like a fucking assault rifle. And, you know, she let everybody know from the beginning like what angle she was taking to get to Congress. And so, you know, at that time,
Starting point is 00:31:26 the GOP didn't have a problem because you're still like, I don't know. I guess that's spicy. We won't get like, we won't rah, rah that shit too much, but it's fucking, if there's an R by the name,
Starting point is 00:31:35 then we'll fucking, it doesn't matter how fucked up or heinous or racist, because we represent everything that's wrong with the country. And, you know, when you look at her old Facebook posts, was doing things from you know having these really odd takes on school shootings like they're all false flag ops she was harassing david hoag when he was going to congress to advocate for gun control like she's on camera like getting in these parkland survivors
Starting point is 00:32:01 faces she was going to pelosi's office and saying all kinds of wild shit she loves any kind like she puts her likes all over anything that you know maybe indicates we should take the lives of democratic leaders or that hillary clinton wears a child's face as a mask that's another thing she's into and loving any comment about the new civil war or like hanging obama that's the thing she's into like on the dating profile my interest include long walks on the beach the idea of hillary clinton wearing a child's face is a man love it and if you don't know now you know and let's talk about it on our date wow so you know just it's i mean it's run of the mill QAnon right wing extremist troll, whatever person like that's like their main media intake she has. But unfortunately, that's not the kind of person who needs to be in the halls of Congress.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You know what I mean? Like you can do that. Just be a QAnon lady on your own. When you start when you enter the office, then things are a little bit different but i don't know who's to say based on the other people that are in her party because kevin mccarthy who is the minority leader in the house all he's saying his quote didn't even come from him it came from his spokesperson who said quote these comments are deeply disturbing and leader mccarthy plans to have a conversation with the congresswoman about them a conversation they're going on the date what what the fuck are you talking about this is straight up the the nonsense that every person like i mean steve stephen king from iowa was saying pretty similar shit this is probably this goes a step further
Starting point is 00:33:41 based on like her irl actions even though they're saying this is before she was in office but this is the kind of person you're dealing with um and he was you know he had his assignments taken away i believe she was been she's been put on uh the committee for education or something she had she got it's like ridiculous so everyone's like you got to get rid of this person there's legislation already to try and have a removed pelosi's like uh the enemies are in the house like and not in a hip-hop way uh they're in the house of representatives and we're you know the the tension's growing because the the republicans are no like this she might as well just be the face of the gop because they have no agenda they have no aims legislatively they're purely just a performative troll group who have to just want to basically stand in the way of progress or find little, you know, moment battles in the
Starting point is 00:34:32 culture war to get their, their supporters around to actually do nothing at all. That would help a single American person unless you're a billionaire. I this uh there was an exchange between aoc and ted cruz yesterday where aoc was like we need to look into this robin hood shit and like figure out what you know why they're protecting the billionaires um ted cruz uh replied fully agree, hand pointing at the thing she said. NAOC said, I'm happy to work with Republicans on this issue where there's common ground, but you almost had me murdered three weeks ago. So you can sit this one out. Happy to work with almost any other GOP that aren't trying to get me killed. In the meantime, if you want to help, you can resign.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Legend. that aren't trying to get me killed in the meantime if you want to help you can resign legend that but that's i feel like that's the place that we're at with the with the republicans like that anybody who's not immediately disavowing this and immediately intervening on behalf of against what happened on the 6th and the president's role in it it's like how how can you how can you work with them like what it's just a complete breakdown that's why that's why it's almost like why don't you say something you want that's a positive good for people who are who are working people why don't you why don't you just say an idea that the only thing that it has to meet is it has to benefit every person in the country, not a group that you can pick away and hold back those benefits from. Something that you feel, because America is so great, right? We take care of every American person, so come up with an idea and then let's move from there. But they can't do that because all they want to do is just go buck wild with the voter suppression and codify like discrimination into
Starting point is 00:36:27 law. That's all it is. That's like all they can do. Well, they got the courts. And I think that's that's a huge issue going forward. I love the point of just saying one positive forward facing thing, have some kind of plan. You know, honestly, history proves it doesn't even have to be a very good plan. I bet you if somebody came out today from a very conservative side and they said one thing we should all we can all agree on the price you see and the label at the at the store should be the price you pay at the register everything else is bullshit people would like praise that they would because they're so desperate to hear something that's not some like apocalyptic uh recycled anti-semitism stuff just poked up again with some you know with a
Starting point is 00:37:11 dash of like lizard juice as a spice they would right they would love it uh but it's an obstructionist party unfortunately that's that's the reality of what it's become there's not i would say and i forgive me if i'm being stereotypically conspiratorial here guys but i would say that the masters of the of this party the people were really pulling the strings for these mascots like green uh they're getting what they want which is pushing a society closer to neo-feudalism that i think that's the ultimate aim and that's where you have things like codified discrimination uh a rigid class system and so on then in that case for those folks who are very different demographic uh for those folks things are humming right along this is how it's supposed to go you know and they think they i think they don't care for the majority of their constituents
Starting point is 00:38:06 in this regard i think they consider them somewhat rubes oh absolutely because i mean at the end of the day the people like like the coke brothers types people they're not like living in the same spaces as anyone like the regular americans so they are beyond insulated from the chaos they're they're creating they just see those bank accounts go, and they're like, great, because I'm not, I've never, I don't have to look a poor person in the eye ever, except for my staff. So what the fuck do I care?
Starting point is 00:38:35 And looking a poor person in the eye, if they're forced to do that, makes them have to confront the reality that they don't deserve a million times the wealth of any human being, let alone these people who work harder than them. And so then they have to create these elaborate fictions, which is where this just completely unsustainable worldview comes in and yeah i mean it it does seem like we're getting closer to a place where people are recognizing just how much the the lie at the center of
Starting point is 00:39:18 american society is like that there's no class system um yeah we're we're making progress i mean i think you're being too nice honestly guys i think uh for some of these folks it's quite possible at this point that looking at poor person in the eye is kind of a kink you know like it's like a dangerous thing they do for kicks occasionally right like in parasite the uh underwear from the poor person all right let's talk let's talk about this uh story about using every last drop of the vaccine is in the news there's like something with pfizer and you know them saying that uh projecting that they will get i think six doses out of every vial instead of five which is what the health care providers were saying um and i guess it's like yeah like uh theoretically you could get six out if we had this like super
Starting point is 00:40:14 precise equipment everywhere in the field and we don't have that um but you know so that's like one of the theoretical conversations that that's happening. And this is just a good illustration of how far we are from even that mattering, even being able to distribute the vaccine. Yeah, not only that, I mean, like they they have a chokehold on like they own the vaccine so we're at the at the fucking will of big pharma to be like don't let us die or or how much a how much to not let me die is where we're at with big pharma they're not it should should have been like sorry motherfucker we need this for the good of earth fuck you and you sue the governments of the world i don't know how that goes down functionally but uh that's just another dimension of this. But yes, we see about constantly there's trouble with the vaccine rollout, people being like, there has to be more efficient ways. Sometimes people
Starting point is 00:41:14 are left with, there's leftover lines and then they're trying to get as much vaccine out so they don't have to throw it away. But there's just another, it's nice to see that people understand right that the vaccine is so dear and finite that it no matter what we cannot waste it just because that's just the situation we're in so in oregon there's these group of health workers who were doing like a rural vaccination operation and they were trying to get back to like their main office but they were caught in traffic where there was like, they're just in a snowstorm basically. And they were sat there with about to expire vaccines. And the New York Times story goes on quote, uh, they know they only had six hours to get the remaining doses of coronavirus vaccine back to people who are waiting for their shots
Starting point is 00:41:59 roughly 30 miles away. Normally the trip takes 45 minutes, but with a jackknife tractor trailer ahead of them, the crew realized they could be stuck for hours. So the workers made the decision to walk from car to car, asking stranded drivers if they wanted to be vaccinated right there on the spot. So they said, fuck it. We're, we're coming, we're, we're getting rid of this shit. And fantastic.
Starting point is 00:42:21 It seems a little bit sketchy as they go on to say, quote, most drivers laughed at the offer of a roadside coronavirus vaccine and politely declined. Even though Mr. Weber said he had a doctor and an ambulance crew on hand to help oversee the operation, he acknowledged it was not the typical setting for vaccination. Quote, it was a strange conversation. Imagine yourself stranded on the side of the road in a snowstorm, snowstorm having someone walk up and say hey would you like a shot in the arm in the end though they had enough people who one dude they said hopped out his car ripped his shirt off and was like and they're like oh it's in your arm fam like yeah because people who are on on meths also get stuck in traffic jams so that's true have you ever been in a traffic jam and uh somebody knocks on your window like somebody walks up that is the most unnerving shit ever like i was just i was driving i think
Starting point is 00:43:16 it was like a cross-country trip or something there was a i think a jackknife tractor trailer like they're talking about in this story up ahead. So everyone was just stuck there and like, they knew the cars weren't going anywhere and people were just like, got out just pulling a, everybody hurts on them. Yeah. Uh, deep cut or I guess we shouldn't call them deep cuts.
Starting point is 00:43:35 We're just old. Uh, so old person cut. Uh, but yeah, it was, it was super unnerving though. When the first person just like walks by your car, it's like, what the fuck is this?
Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you feel trapped. Yeah. And they're not offering you a vaccine? Yeah, they weren't even offering a vaccine. The nerve. Fuck that. Just trucker crank.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Well, yeah. I don't know. I'm trying to put myself in the position of these people, too, where like, yeah. I mean, I'm not going not gonna say no but i'm also very much like what what are you trying to pull here why are you suddenly like i would have a lot of hurdles to get over before i'm like yeah sure guy who i mean yeah you got some medical equipment i don't know how to like quality control or qc a vial of moderna vaccine like exactly let me look on the internet and do
Starting point is 00:44:25 some side-by-side legit check this shit real quick right like as somebody who uh has uh dealt with expiring milk in the past i know that it's not a thing where it hits the date the born on date and like a buzzer goes off and it's suddenly bad like that shit will go bad three days before sometimes or it'll stay good for a couple days after the born on date like it's suddenly bad like that shit will go bad three days before sometimes or it'll stay good for a couple days after the born on date like it's not so i don't know like the this i i would have been skeptical i would have taken it just because you know i feel like that's a situation where it's okay to ask for id oh you know what i mean but see then i'm like in my mind because this is this is where you're catching you're catching the wrong miles you know i'm probably high in my car already pissed i'm in a snowstorm right you're like
Starting point is 00:45:08 hi would you like a coronavirus what the fuck a what a coronavirus vaccine fuck who the fuck are you are you fucking for real right now oh we're some health care workers you're some health care get the fuck away from my car motherfucker are you that's true i get i mean you know i get i've gotten uh like i'm sure this happens to everybody i get a lot of weird kind of car-based cold calls at red lights you know what i mean and sometimes these kids sell them water uh sure purportedly for a football team and then sometimes it's uh sometimes it's somebody who's got like some crazy offers i did not vaccine related but i did a few years ago this uh street called freedom parkway here in atlanta had a guy knock on my car uh and like knocked on the window and
Starting point is 00:45:58 it was the middle of the day it didn't seem like i thought he was gonna ask for money right but so i rolled down the passenger side window a little bit. And his opener line is like, what if I told you? Yes, go ahead and say it opener. Yeah, he's like, what if I told you I just got a winning lottery ticket? And I was like, congratulations, bro. I don't know. I started rolling the window up.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And he was like i congratulations bro i don't know i started rolling the window up and he was like i didn't but what if i bought and his whole hustle was like ask me to give him a dollar so he could buy the lottery ticket the winning ticket yeah he was split with you yeah he didn't even say it was splitting no oh i love that scam wonderful wonderful you gotta pay pay money to make money man because in your mind jack or ben wouldn't you be weary of like some q anon group of goofy people pretending to be giving vaccinations and like poisoning you know what i mean like and i am not that's where my mind goes and it's not healthy but unfortunately when you when i'm in a snowstorm and you knock on my window i'm not not going to be like, oh, hi, vaccines. Well, first of all, you're going to be out doing snow angels because you're such a snow ho.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah, because I've never seen snow. Yeah. Yeah, snow ho ho. But, yeah, I'm also, like, the thing that immediately my brain goes to is, like, I don't know how to judge medical, ids like i don't know what the right like he could be the fakest id in the history of medical ids and it's like uh yeah okay man you still see the uh the original like blockbuster logo right you're like this is a driver's license for a delorean from back to the future hey uh yeah guys i'm not a doctor but this does look like a 20 off bed bath and beyond right mailing coupon yeah i don't know it's a good point like i think this is one of those stories where really it's surprising that six people said yes uh because we have this kind of
Starting point is 00:48:07 six people said yes uh because we have this kind of cultural taboo about bob like knocking on people's doors in cars you know it's not associated with good news right right yeah but people are so desperate in in many cases for the vaccine like here you know here in georgia our uh the governor who fixed the election to become governor really shat the bed on on any kind of vaccination infrastructure distribution yeah we're talking about that yeah my parents uh actually went they're retired they went and got the first vaccination after being on a wait three different waiting lists for like two weeks uh they got to a place at walmart a walmart at 4 30 in the morning uh to get an appointment for that afternoon and they were getting the pfizer one with two shots they they got there and they they were told they would schedule the second shot when they got
Starting point is 00:48:54 to the afternoon appointment they showed up to the afternoon appointment and the person gave them the first shot and they're like all right when do we schedule the second one they said oh yeah things have changed try your best to find one. Nice. Well done. Yeah, that was it. That was the end of the conversation. Thanks, Governor Kemp.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah, good luck. Good luck. Yeah, good luck with that. I'm sorry, good luck with that? Isn't this a what? Okay. Well, speaking of good luck with that, I do want to get to Robin Hood here real quick because there's not much to report here that we didn't kind of speculate was about to happen on yesterday's episodes.
Starting point is 00:49:31 But Robinhood basically stopped trading on any of the stocks that were being used to bankrupt hedge funds. to bankrupt hedge funds. And it's just exactly what we thought, that the people who have money and who play by the stock market rules would somehow find a way to manipulate the rules so that this couldn't go on any further. And yeah, it's just robin hood uh apparently has been a company that is the exact opposite of what they claim to be uh from from the start or at least for many years uh this must
Starting point is 00:50:16 have happened right after we were uh advertised for them they really took a turn yeah boy yeah uh but they so uh they got fined something significant 65 million dollars by the securities and exchange commission uh because they failed to disclose the firm's receipt of payments from trading firms for routing customer orders to them so they're just a middleman that sends people to companies that make money off of making their trades for them. And they claim that they're doing it without fees. And because they're targeting people who don't have experience with making trades and what the fees actually would look like they don't know that
Starting point is 00:51:05 they're actually getting a much worse price uh with robin hood than they would uh they would have with just going straight to a brokerage um right yeah to the point that they uh deprived customers of 34.1 million dollars uh even after taking into account the savings from not paying a commission directly to Robinhood. That's how much, in aggregate, that specific claim screwed customers out of. Yeah. So I don't know. The fact that they are in league with these brokerage houses and not actually working on behalf of the little guy to rob the brokerage houses and give to the poor should not be surprising. It's just the audacity of them calling themselves Robin hood is like the one piece of branding that but the irony that it was it was pivotal in actually getting all these yacht owners fucking money yeah which is kind of ironic in the end but yeah it's maybe they read a different version of
Starting point is 00:52:19 the robin hood story you know what i mean like i i don't know man i we were talking about this a little bit off air and i know you guys had covered this extensively i it feels like a lot of the writing was on the wall within the past maybe 48 hours or so uh at least on my end and i'm i'm not the i'm not the brightest crayon in the box but the the thing that's wild about this is that it's gone to like blatant open market manipulation because the cost-benefit analysis has gotten skewed, right? It's like if this firm has to pay the shorts that they set up, that's a massive fuckton of money. that's a massive fuck ton of money and it's actually much cheaper for them to it's potentially much cheaper for them to just pay a sec fine or series of fines for market manipulation it's cheaper to break the law than it is to obey it i can't even i can't even get out of late fees at the library this is bullshit yeah the uh yeah i mean it goes back to the the last financial
Starting point is 00:53:28 crisis uh the the first uh the 2008 financial crisis where the bank the big banks were bailed out uh and nothing wrong there what are you talking about they ended up making more money though what they did on reddit though oh my god yeah forget about how we've we basically threw the economy away in a dice game uh what about these guys on robin hood they messed up my friend at citron and melvin or whatever the fucking these other hedge funds are and it's perfect it's pervasive in the mainstream media too the New York Times had a story they were like out of a combination of boredom and greed these Robin
Starting point is 00:54:09 Hood like Reddit people manipulated it's like mother wait what that's how you're going to do you always put that into stories about the stock market that people who are making financially motivated decisions are greedy
Starting point is 00:54:27 it depends on the context yeah did you guys also see the narrative that's uh spinning some of those folks from wall street bets as uh trying to make them like maga people, right? People. And it's very poor reporting, in my opinion, because still it's Reddit, which is its own ecosystem. But I just, I don't know, man. I think it's so hilarious. I think they just can't stand that these people use their own tools and rules against them like that. They can't stomach that
Starting point is 00:55:05 because it used to be a thing for only them to fuck people over with and this that's why it's like are you fucking certain like if they can't fuck it it's like this little kid beat lebron at one-on-one somehow like they're like it shouldn't have happened how did this fuck and yeah what's the fucked up thing is like the like the double owning that could possibly happen in the form of like bailing out hedge funds and then that means less support for everyone because the government prioritized bailing out fucking hedge funds over human beings who live here who have actual needs rather than like are you fucking serious? I'm going to get my fucking boat repoed. Like, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:55:47 There's so much like, I ain't probably going too much in the weeds in this, but so much of the mainstream reporting right now appears to be the equivalent of like, peasants, here of all places, but this is a gentleman's casino. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:56:04 One million peasants took the form of one bullish investor did the whole thing in i do hope the biden administration and fed are smart enough to realize that bailing out the hedge funds would you know be a very bad look at this time of exploding inequality i yeah let's hope let's be yeah let's hope. Yeah, let's hope. Stranger things have happened. Stranger things have happened. I'm crossing my fingers. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:01:10 report first uh there are a few gentlemen who are suing uh subway because they claim the subway is in fact not tuna is nonsense quote the star ingredient according to the lawsuit is and this is from the lawsuit made from anything but tuna okay that's very descriptive based on independent lab tests of multiple samples taken from subway locations in california the quote tuna is a mixture of various concoctions that do not constitute tuna yet have been blended together by defendants to imitate the appearance of tuna so when the attorneys say and they but declined to say what exactly they're like okay but then what is it if it's a concoction of multi is there tuna
Starting point is 01:01:52 what's the tuna percentage um and i they would have had me for it i thought it was tuna what they what they go on to say is first of all they want it to be a class action lawsuit so i guess i can get in on that yeah because I done thrown away plenty of money. Yeah, 40% of your DNA is Subway tuna. So I need to reclaim four-tenths of who I am, your honor, as a human. And I don't know how to quantify that, but I'll settle for $3 billion. So what they say, what's more, the plaintiffs argue, Subway is, quote, saving substantial sums of money in manufacturing the products because the fabricated ingredient they use in the place of tuna costs less money.
Starting point is 01:02:31 So they're saying, for example, the price of a foot-long tuna sandwich at a Subway outlet in, like, Washington, they're saying, is $7.39, while the same size cold cut sandwich is $6.19. So they're making $1.20 there. cold cut sandwich is 619 so they're making a dollar 20 there um now this goes along with like a long line of weird subway lawsuits like we've talked about the yoga mat bread uh the turkey not turkey um the well the foot long is actually 11.5 inches that one was i mean that was fucked up we all knew about that yeah um but i remember most recently jack we talked about one that the in the in canada they had actually done an analysis of the meat and they were saying it was not the meat and that was like the last sort of subway fiasco we had and apparently in the like i guess the
Starting point is 01:03:16 higher courts in canada actually said that subways claim that that was like a bullshit allegation they they're going to hear it uh that there it might not have been just as cut and dry as like we did an analysis and this shit's weird because it sounds like that's what this is too and for the record i've been eating things that are not what they are advertised to be so it doesn't bother me what the fuck i mean let's be real uh yeah you're in too deep you know yeah i'm in too deep i'm breathing the air in la like i'm done so what do you what the fuck if i'm eating a concoction of the tuna like substances but the beginning of quarantine i went to subway because subway was selling their ingredients remember
Starting point is 01:03:56 if like if you right to get bacon or whatever they were like yo come through we're selling it i i checked out the shit on the bag said tuna so unless they're fucking with the people that work in there it didn't say like concoction wait maybe it was just a bag labeled tuna or they had ingredients on the bag and it said tuna no it was like tuna blah blah blah i had the recipe i didn't like i wasn't looking at it at the time to be like is this tuna i was like yo can i see like if i bought the thing what it looked like right here and i'm like and for a second it was more like i was smiegel with the ring of power oh shit i got the three pound bag of tuna that they used to make the fucking tuna salad well what if it's i mean there are a couple ways around it first like if we're if we're playing the uh sketchy lawyer
Starting point is 01:04:40 one thing you could say is like well tuna is actually an acronym it's um it's like trout unagi something with an n and anchovies and that's what we're you know that's that's what we mean when we say tuna and that's really on you guys for misreading the label of the tuna sandwich secondly you could say hey overfishing is a huge problem uh we're doing our part for the environment right we just maybe our messaging was wrong but our heart or our sub was in the right place right right okay and then as the judge i would be like uh i'd like to speak to your your uh client council you're okay with this defense just making sure oh continue continue he said n maybe something that starts with an n but just saying
Starting point is 01:05:26 i couldn't think of he couldn't even get the acronym out i'm just saying if you want to keep moving forward with him as your counsel then we'll do that right well it looks like the firm of mad lib mad lib and mad lib is not mad lib and fart oh there we go. But yeah, I mean, this is similar to that thing in the UK a while back where it turned out that some of those meat pies actually had horse meat in them. Yeah. And I like the point you're making, Miles, where you said, well, I've been eating this for so long. You know what I mean? It's kind of a sunk cost because there were a lot of people in the uk who were like well i've been i've been eating these things for years now i i don't know i guess it depends on what the concoction is is it like imitation crab level or is it like
Starting point is 01:06:14 i don't know glue like what what is it i really don't know i don't know it's upsetting tuna scented glue they can really do a lot with the with just olfactory uh engineering like orange juice the tropicana orange juice that's fresh squeezed is actually completely flavorless and they just add a orange scent to it and that's why you think it's actually very old they keep it in these big uh silos that don't have any oxygen and so it keeps it from spoiling but it also deprives it of any taste and then once it gets to you the way that it tastes like orange juice is they just make it smell like orange juice and your brain is like ah yes fresh squeezed orange juice um but yeah uh we actually just got notification from the news desk from super producer anna hosnier she says miles is too
Starting point is 01:07:12 close to this we need to take him off the story oh no what are you saying we'll be back uh we'll be back with some updates from not miles on this i'm telling you i'm a tuna truther it's tuna tuna fuck what you heard i will say that a lot of the a lot of the stories that you hear about like the kind of classic you know uh coke will coke is used by uh the highway patrol to clean off like dead bodies or like you know stripped down uh dead bodies and all that stuff does does end up being myths so um the one thing i'll say is the law firm that is representing these guys they are the same people who came after johnson and johnson with the talcum powder ovarian cancer lawsuit. And that was legit. That one was legit.
Starting point is 01:08:06 So that's the one thing that has my little tuna heart nervous. My weak little tuna heart. Tuna is tuna, your honor. Let's stay in the food aisle of the Daily Zeitgeist and talk about mac and cheese. It's been a real rollercoaster ride over the past year talk about mac and cheese. It's been a real roller coaster ride over the past year for Kraft mac and cheese. When the pandemic first started, people were basically hoarding Kraft mac and cheese. It was one of those products people were like,
Starting point is 01:08:37 let's go, let's get it all. And to the point that they had to up their production. Basically, people had to work around the clock to keep up with demand. So, you know, a very popular product churned out at the expense of the workers who make it. They weren't providing them with PPE months into the pandemic.
Starting point is 01:09:00 But then it seems like something just loosened. They lost touch with reality in some way. So the first thing we saw from them in the marketing department is they claimed that during the pandemic, 56% of parents reported serving their kids mac and cheese for breakfast. 56%? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:09:35 That's not true. I can tell you. I can tell you because breakfast is the easiest meal to prepare for your kids. You can just pour cheerios in a bowl and they're they're good mac and cheese from three nights ago right yeah that's oh vintage vintage mac and cheese so that caused them to change the box from craft dinner to craft breakfast uh that which is just such a strange uh overreaction i guess by by them uh about a very flawed and highly suspect piece of data they learned uh then they introduced pumpkin spice craft dinner uh which is just pumpkin spice flavored mac and cheese um they
Starting point is 01:10:28 introduced an advertising campaign that contained the slogan send nudes n-o-o-d-s like noodles which got them the ire of q anon oh god uh which you know broken clock and all that uh i mean crap mac and cheese i have to go there yeah it's a children's product those see this is what this is what happened i guarantee you there was some intense uh overly long boardroom meeting where there was a guy walking around way in a suit waving a box of craft and saying with no sense of irony we have to think outside the fucking box yeah your craziest ideas and someone was like nudes and they were like no write it down
Starting point is 01:11:14 fuck yes what else i mean no it's good it's like oh my god i hate working here i mean it could be as simple as like one of the like the chief marketing officer just developed a debilitating cocaine addiction or something and that's where this is coming from yeah it has that very uh following a bad idea through to its logical conclusion vibe to it yeah i mean a few years ago the guy would have been instrumental in, you know, the Police Academy films or something like that. That's the kind of reasoning. But now, so their latest product is in honor of Valentine's Day. They have introduced something called Candy KD, Candy Craft Dinner.
Starting point is 01:12:04 called Candy KD, Candy Craft Dinner. It is just mac and cheese that has a candy flavor packet that makes the mac and cheese look like raw ground beef. They think it's just like a fun pink color, but it really looks like a bowl of raw ground beef. And it's candy flavored.'s it has a sweet sweetness to it no which is as far afield i think any brand has ever been from what people actually want from their product this is way past purple ketchup yeah or even like the kfc like log that smelled like kfc like even though it wasn't edible, like we get it.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Because it's not even doing a good job of like, because we always look, we'll always cover these stupid food stunts because at the end of the day, like we're mouth agape in the grocery store. I look good. But like this isn't even doing a good job of like your typical like, look over here at the food. We're doing something weird. Like we're making visors for Dunkin Donuts, huh? Like this is just like shitty candy. Mac and no. Like what kind of sweet cheesy?
Starting point is 01:13:16 I mean, no, no, it's actually this is starting. This is getting me more upset than the tuna lawsuit. Is it a sauce? Like, do they still have, have you know the typical cheese sauce or is the whole sauce just this pink packet that's your cheese and it seems like there's an additional pink packet that you add to ruin the mac okay so if you want to fully okay just desecrate the meal then sure it's like go your own way. Right. Craft dinner. Okay. That's still really weird. Maybe they could just do multiple packs of something.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I don't know. I mean, I'm all for experimentation, but this feels like maybe this is an inside job to sabotage craft? I don't know. That's what I was wondering. I was wondering if they're trying to tank the stock or something. It's such a bad idea. It's like so transparently bad like maybe somebody in in on the marketing team was shorting the craft stock
Starting point is 01:14:10 jesus christ yeah right oh god i wouldn't be surprised i mean one angle they could have taken is that craft dinner was invented in 1937 to offer cheap meals during the Great Depression and then blew up in popularity during World War II when dairy was rationed. So they could have just been like, hey, times are tough. We've been here. We've been through tough times before with y'all.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Literally. Yeah. Let's get through this together. Eat our cheap food paste they do like a better job of just showing you how you can like turn up the blue box with like one or two other ingredients you're like okay you got an onion and a half pound of beef okay let's get it cracking this is how versatile it is versus like what have you had candy flavor are you fucking serious right now shut the fuck up craft dinner you could have like you could have a a recipe contest where people enter in their own like their their own
Starting point is 01:15:13 modification cheese yeah yeah yeah and then and then the prize could be more craft macaroni and cheese make a feedback loop but no candy huh yeah and what it's done is it started a discussion where we go, actually, I feel like I hate Kraft macaroni and cheese now. Exactly. That's the other end of this conversation. That's where we got to at the end of this story. They do the contest, and the winner is just the chief marketing officer with a fake mustache on and the little heart-shaped Valentine's Day candies mixed in. Just little heart shaped Valentine's day. Uh, just a little,
Starting point is 01:15:47 ah, it's great. Everybody loves it. It was a hit. Uh, all right, Ben, it's been a pleasure as always having you on for your third,
Starting point is 01:15:59 uh, appearance on the daily zeitgeist. Where can people, uh, hear you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Ben Bullen HSW, Instagram at Ben Bullen.
Starting point is 01:16:12 You can find some of the shows I do, stuff they don't want you to know if you want to learn more depressing stuff about Marshall Islands. And you can also check out, check me out on Ridiculous History where TDZ listeners, you can also check me out on Ridiculous History where TDZ listeners, you can find Miles and Jack themselves on the show on the, what is it? History's Weirdest Flexes?
Starting point is 01:16:35 Yeah. History's Weirdest Flexes. Wild. I still think about those. We've got to have you back on that one. Yeah. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yes uh this is i i don't know why this might not matter to other people uh there's a i don't know
Starting point is 01:16:54 if you heard this there's a twitter i was looking for innocent tweets innocent twitter stuff you know because the world's burning down i want to relax as we spiral toward the drain. I found a guy called Coffee Dad, and he's just a guy who likes coffee, and all his tweets are only things like, I'm ready for coffee. It's coffee time. I'm enjoying coffee. One time he got political and said, covfefe, but that's it. That's the only time it's different. And I love his commitment to the bit. He's been doing this since 2012,
Starting point is 01:17:30 just these small tweets about coffee. Nice. Miles, where can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Let's see. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey and also the other for 20 day fiance. Stop by Twitch.
Starting point is 01:17:48 Twitch dot TV slash for 20 day fiance. We'll probably do some live today. Friday at 420. No less. Let's see. A tweet that I like is this one is from Dana Donnelly at Dana Donnelly. She tweets stock market right now is incels versus billionaire pedophile rapists, and I'm on team incel.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yay. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Johnny Soon tweeted, I hope this email finds you unhappy and burned out. I hope it is your last straw. And Rob Delaney tweeted, I hope this email finds you unhappy and burned out. I hope it is your last straw. And Rob Delaney tweeted, I appreciate the GameStop
Starting point is 01:18:29 stuff is quote funny to some of you, but I had planned to buy my wife a modest boat for Valentine's Day and now I can't and I'm going to have to work up the courage to ask my dad to loan me the money. This was not on my 2021
Starting point is 01:18:45 bingo card. I love the 2021 bingo card. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com
Starting point is 01:19:03 where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles. What are we riding out on today? So we're going to go out on this artist Dominique Dumont, but it's
Starting point is 01:19:20 a collaboration. It's like one of those things where it's like three artists and one of the people who works on this project they think might be a fake, fictitious artist. I just love backstories like that. They're from Europe. This track is called Le Debut de la Femme.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And that is my French for you today. The start and the finish or beginning and end, whatever you want to say. And it's just got like great... It just sounds like this weird project that a bunch of mysterious people are working on but it has like a very like you know kind of disco-y pop vibe to it and i always like anytime the vocals are distorted and it sounds like it's coming out of a haunted radio because that's like my whole aesthetic right now
Starting point is 01:19:59 so check this out from dominique dumont it's early, early the weekend when we didn't know who it was. Well, this is more like into like instrument playing versus then his trippy Apple beats from Toronto. Right, right. All right. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you list your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning. We're back this afternoon
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