The Daily Zeitgeist - GOPorn Addiction, Money Glitches Get Stitches 09.05.24

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

In episode 1737, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, actor, and writer, Titi Lee, to discuss… Not A Great Week For GOP Extremist/Bootleg VHS Porno Connoisseur Mark Robinson, Financial Illiteracy ...+ TikTok Trend = Poor People Going Into Debt and more! From Titi Lee's Search History: Chinese network behind one of world’s ‘largest online scams’ Not A Great Week For GOP Extremist/Bootleg VHS Porno Connoisseur Mark Robinson 13 of the most batsh*t things N.C. Republican governor candidate Mark Robinson has said Trump endorses Mark Robinson for North Carolina governor and compares him to Martin Luther King Jr. Donald Trump endorses Mark Robinson, who said gays are ‘filth’ and ‘maggots,’ for N.C. governor Financial Illiteracy + TikTok Trend = Poor People Going Into Debt LISTEN: When Sunday Comes Around by Marlon FunakiSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you have covid yeah so twitter i i got it for the first time i've never had it before at least not like officially so i guess it had to happen at some point yeah i don't test so i don't know but this time i don't believe in that shit so i'm glad to hear that you're doing all right yeah i feel like i must have had it before but i take every like especially during the height when every time i got thought i had it i would get negative so i don't know yeah yeah maybe you got that brolic immune system my other my boy handsome nick also never had it never had it never had it wow and he's out here online dating and shit going like not being not playing it safe at all online dating wait but that's online oh but
Starting point is 00:00:45 like in person no but you know what i mean like apps like he's like he has like we call it we still call it online dating when you meet somebody online damn yo that's so wild i can't believe yeah he's internet he's dating on the web Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:01:43 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:03:00 iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print.
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Starting point is 00:03:52 And it's Thursday, September 5th, 2024. I was going for Bill Maher, but I couldn't quite find it. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's hard to sound like an asshole so effortlessly. But guess what? We respect this day, and only one thing is happening this day. It's National Cheese Pizza Day. Hey. The workman pizza.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The workman of pizza. I do feel like, yeah. The one that gets, I feel like, you know, that's our favorite pizza. Even to this day, when I go to, like, a kid's party, I'm always like, let me get the cheese. I know the cheese is for the kids. For the kids, but I love a good cheese pizza. So anyway, cheese pizza day. I love a good cheese pizza, but I'm not fucking with Domino's cheese pizza. Chain pizza is all about the toppings for me.
Starting point is 00:04:37 It's just like the pizza is a mechanism for delivering toppings into my body. But when it comes to like a good slice, if I'm being told like, this is one of the best pizza places, this place has great pizza. Let me see that cheese. What does the cheese do? Cheese.
Starting point is 00:04:51 It's got to have a good cheese slice. Yeah, personally. Personally, and that's just me, I'm a little weird. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien, aka We Revise If We Want To. Revisionist history is fine. As if the worst president didn't leave evidence
Starting point is 00:05:07 Of all of his crimes Dennis Quaid as the Gipper Tearing off Gorbachev's balls At least I think that's it Just heard a minute You can go ask Jack and Malz Say biopic, biopic Give revisionism a chance
Starting point is 00:05:23 Biopic, biopic Help fascisms creep in advance Biopic, biopic, give revisionism a chance. Biopic, biopic, help fascism creep in advance. Biopic, biopic, anyone see this no way? Biopic, biopic, heard they had to give tickets away. Yeah, that one in courtesy of less than zero. Less than sign, X3R0, which of course, my brain instinctively knew meant less than sign x3r0 which of course my brain instinctively knew meant less than zero because i am a hacker i spend a lot of time in forums just fucking hacking does someone just have that with like less than and then the name jake so less than jake just that and jake you're like what is that yo less than jake bro
Starting point is 00:06:06 if you know you know that's right um i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray miles gray aka never did i raise the price man it was just a product of inflation tired of having
Starting point is 00:06:22 this discussion i'm putting fingers in my ears and leaving. And how dare you? You accuse me. How dare you? You accuse me of what I really said. How dare you?
Starting point is 00:06:38 You accuse me of my price gouging. It's not like soup was a buck thirty. Now that we bumped it up to four bucks eighty. Price of limes is what steak is. Fill up your cup with a reverse mortgage.
Starting point is 00:06:54 You call it wrong. Say we're clowns. But we had to fund Nickelback somehow. My son Chad's a good kid. He just has his. What is Grammy yet? All right.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Shout out to Halcyon Salad for that Nickelback inspired AKA. Talking about, you know, the price gouging at Kroger. I like that you took Chad Kroger from Nickelback and made that person the son of the Kroger grocery dynasty. I think that's canon now. That is the son of the kroger grocery dynasty i think that's very canon now that is the son of the yeah the scion i actually saw uh i was at a friend's house and they were like oh yeah over there like that guy's in nickelback his house right there like we were overlooking like a little canyon area he's like and that guy is nickelback when i and i'll never forgive myself for not going over there and just being like hey man we do akas to your shit big fan what hey man get the fuck akas to my shit the fuck out of here anyways uh we we don't plan out our we don't know the
Starting point is 00:08:01 akas that the other person's gonna do uh And sometimes we just both have really long AKAs. So it's great that we had a very patient, very wonderful guest to sit through those. Thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Do it again. Encore! By a very funny comedian, actor, Emmy-nominated writer who's written for Good Mythical Morning, Cracked Reductress, Brockmire, recently finished their show, Good Girl Gone Baddy's, month-long run at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You can see them starring in the very funny and sweet, wonderful short film on YouTube, I Think She Likes You, which they also wrote. And you can see them in the latest season of Girls 5 Ever. Please welcome back to the show, the brilliant and talented T.T. Lee! T-Squared! Yo, okay, I have an intent. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:53 I was just in France for a very short minute. Got to eat some crepes and watch Paralympics. I don't want to brag, but I did get COVID. Now I'm home and sick in Glendon, not Paris. Baby, do you like this intro i wrote it because i can't leave the house it's like 199 degrees there's a heat wave in la and i miss french baguettes c-o-v-i-d got me i can't leave the house to go h-a V E COVID I really wish it wasn't so
Starting point is 00:09:27 wow well done I was just leaving space there for the bomb drop BT Lee with the A K A is Chapel Roan gonna allow that just faithful recreation of that song won't get hit with legal
Starting point is 00:09:42 we think about that I actually collabed on that one. I actually listened to Chaplin for the first time today because my friend, my homie was like, you gotta listen. It's the next Lady Gaga. And I made him watch
Starting point is 00:09:57 the Hak Tua girl interview. That was my, he hadn't seen that. So I was like, dude. Outdated references. But we were both like over, we were like, dude, man. Two outdated references. Pop culture share. Yeah. But we were both like over, we were like, God, I feel weird that I don't know who that is. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:11 And he was like, I don't know who Hawk Tua, he kept saying Hawk Tui. And so, but yeah, listen to Chapel Roan. Good shit. Good shit. Okay, you like it? Twice now. Yeah. I'm finding, I mean, okay, I admittedly am finding out about memes through my fiance
Starting point is 00:10:24 now because he's always on TikTok for finance. And I was just checked out for like the last basically month and a half. Right. So Hawk Tua, I also learned from him, but not today. Yeah. I learned this before. Wait, is like finance TikTok, like they've got heavy meme action in finance. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:45 You know, Twitter kind of gotten taken over too by finance. And I think also a lot of social media, they have their own little pool of memes. I mean, I don't know how much of it is fun. Right. Last time you were on, by the way, they were your boyfriends. So congratulations. Yeah. Oh, thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yes, I am engaged. Got that detail, detective. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Yes. I am engaged. Got that detail, detective. Right. You are financed. Speaking of finance, you are financed. Wow. My finance.
Starting point is 00:11:13 My finance. Congratulations. Thank you. It was good, though. It was. It was like a roller coaster. It was really fun. I did.
Starting point is 00:11:21 My PR person did like scam. I should say allegedly scam a bunch of us because we're trying to deal with this a bunch of clients had this situation happen but um so that wasn't cool wait what do you mean like you hired a publicist who like just didn't follow through on the shit you paid them to do basically yeah i paid like 1500 pounds and he charged other people this much and then like he basically what we discovered is he's allegedly funding funded his own show with our money because he still did a show but on day one of French he emailed he messaged me on whatsapp because I was trying to get a response but he emailed a bunch of people
Starting point is 00:11:56 the same copy and paste saying basically due to like stress and health concerns from doing my own show I cannot deliver like so sorry I intend to pay you guys back at the end of September, which is also when box office comes in. But we've tried to get more info from him. We get the red flag kind of feeling that he might just be putting it off. Apparently he owes Scotland government some money. So we may not get the money back.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But anyways. We owe the Scotland government money. Yeah, we owe. Who doesn't? Have you traveled if you don't owe the Scottish government some man's payment? Oh, but also, it got even worse because I came home and I was looking him up and just curious to look up stuff in old Facebook forums for Edinburgh
Starting point is 00:12:35 because that's how I found him. And apparently, he did a whole show in Yellowface. Wow. From years ago, but I'm like'm like oh okay like so there's like yeah not the most stand-up character you've witnessed holy shit he was doing stand-up characters it was just probably not a yeah yeah they were bowing a lot yeah oh boy oh my god sorry god tt we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today we all have to learn the name
Starting point is 00:13:13 mark robinson now because uh you know he's he's like he was known i guess yeah we've terrible politician north carolina lieutenant governor who's straight up like a Holocaust denier, anti-Semite, anti-women, anti-science, anti-everything. Anti-blackie. But anyways, there's some people who used to, he was basically like the norm of Cheers, if Cheers was a 24-hour video porn store where people go to jack off yeah he was there every day of the week and they're always glad you came literally exactly we're going to talk about speaking of finance on tiktok yeah there was a tiktok trend over the long weekend that really fucked a bunch of people over. So we'll talk about that plenty more.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But first, Titi, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, this was from yesterday. I searched fake clothing website data harvesting because I don't know if you guys already talked about this on the show. You're trying to start one of those? Yeah, well, I like to harvest some data. Fake clothing website data harvesting. Because I don't know if you guys already talked about this on the show, but. You're trying to start one of those? Yeah, well, I'd like to harvest some data. Fake clothing website data harvesting. Guys, I have a pitch. Okay?
Starting point is 00:14:32 Lend me your ears. Yep. And your wallet. No, but I recently, just because just trying to shop online. Okay, I've been looking at wedding outfits and reception dresses, and it's all insanely expensive. And I had a friend who did hers on Taobaoo which is a chinese website but she's chinese so she had it made and i know that's a way to do it but i get so like my chinese isn't perfect and like it's sort of sort of still foreign to me to shop on those sites because there are a lot of
Starting point is 00:15:00 scams so anyways i've been getting a lot of ads for like sites that like this doesn't this looks like a really beautiful website and it's like oh made in frankfurt or whatever and it's like it looks legit and then it's like the prices don't make sense like 69 for you know a gown whatever so i've discovered as i'm sure you guys can probably guess a lot of these are fake sites from china but i've dug deeper and I'm actually surprised there are not a lot of US articles about this. But The Guardian did an article about it recently about how there's a Chinese network behind... They're a little more organized. They create these fake fronts to data harvest. And some of them will just... Sometimes they're smaller where they'll actually try to make a version of the shirt that you bought that's completely fake. And they put a
Starting point is 00:15:49 picture of a designer. But there's full on ones. I saw one, I was like this, I Googled, it was called Vival. I was like, is this legit? And all those pictures are taken from another fast fashion site called Baby Boo, which is also pretty data harvest-y. But they'll just straight up, they advertise on Instagram and then you put your credit card info in. Sometimes they'll send it, sometimes they won't, but it's all just stolen photos. It's all just harvested. Anyways, I was very surprised by this, how big it is, because I've had the hunch that this is happening, but I'm not seeing a lot of literacy on this in, I guess, America. Yeah. Yeah, but fraud has gone up by...
Starting point is 00:16:26 Sorry. Well, I saw, so apparently online fraud went up, shopping fraud went up 30% in the US and 43% in the UK from 2022. And that's pretty sizable. So I'm very like, yeah, I don't know. So anyways, if you guys know a cheap wedding
Starting point is 00:16:42 dress, feel free to send it my way. Yeah, yeah. I know. I can send you some couple ones from Wayne maybe one of those jerseys behind you Miles yeah yeah yeah if you want this one's big enough you might be able to cut into a gown but for sure for sure there are those Halloween stores that are about to start popping up that you can
Starting point is 00:16:58 get a really cheap wedding dress like Bride of Frankenstein Haunted Bride maybe I was a bride when I was like seven years old. Maybe I'll find that costume and try to slim down. Now to get to my seven year old body shape.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Step two. But yeah, they're basically making the internet unusable. It feels like we're I don't know if it's by design or if it just like got away from them. Well, I think it's also just a if it just like oh wait they've taken my data or that other like a lot of like uh app optimization sort of scams where people think they're getting a job like i know a couple people who fell into that or just people are desperate
Starting point is 00:17:55 for work and they're like you can you help us with app optimization but you end up like giving them crypto to unlock more money that they send it's like really fucked up sorry guys i have like some stuff to undo real quick oh yeah no but you're right it's wild because even on linkedin i get messages from a lot of like sometimes they're legit but i i instantly don't trust anything i get if i'm not reaching out and there was one like i did a gig like last year for a chinese company that ended up being like a real job but there was like the way they did it there was a lot of data involved with how they run their content so like it set off my alarms but the company is legit it's just they also have like a kind of a more fanfic sort of literature publishing form so that's how they get all their data because there's billions of
Starting point is 00:18:38 readers in china and then they like create content that way but just the way they reach out like so many of these messages they're just like oh know, it just feels everything's so fake. And I don't, a part of this is like, maybe I'm becoming illiterate in this. Like, and I do want to, I feel like take classes on like data because I think it's going to pass me by and I'll be like an old MAGA person being like, bro, the world's changing. Because I don't know, like, I don't imagine everyone is this confused. But I feel so confused sometimes. Yeah. It's not our fault.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Like, there's just no, the way the system is set up is that there's actually nobody looking out for consumers. So it's, this isn't normal. Like, the way that it's set up now is the result of like only corporations having the government like working with them. There are consumer organizations that are set up to protect consumers and they're like drastically underfunded. And so we're just like in a atmosphere that's like completely one sided. And, you know, it's totally bent in the direction of whoever can make money off of a thing. And that thing happens to be consumers and like just private individuals who have nobody taking care of them now. It's like what you're talking about, like price gouging too, because you should just, I mean, in my head, I'm like, I'll just go to the retail stores.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I know, but those prices are so expensive. So you do get do get stuck in like oh is there a newer brand that might be doing yeah something we like but then some of these are so low it just sets off alarm bells for me but but you're right it's like people getting desperate like oh i'll buy a designer knock off because it's cheaper yeah right it's completely fake and it's just yeah and it's tough but then yeah there there are many people willing to uh separate you from your money yeah very very low price what is something that you think is underrated okay so for these i asked my fiancee because i feel like i've done a lot of these so these are his answers wow so i said what do you think your fiancee did your homework okay he said okay well i don't know if you like these answers.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I said, what's underrated? He said, my dick. Okay. And then overrated, he said, AI. It's fine. This is his first time answering these questions. We'll get them to a more nuanced place.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Wait, so underrated, his dick, overrated AI? My dick? AI. Overrated AI. Yeah. Is he available to speak on this? Is he in the room with us right now? He's not in the room with me. Okay. For the record, I don't think his dick is underrated. Depending on who's rating it. I feel like I've rated his dick quite
Starting point is 00:21:24 favorably. Properly. Yeah, depending on who's rating it, I feel like I've rated his dick quite favorably. Properly. Yeah. But wouldn't that cause some alarm bells? You're like, hold on. Is there, are there other people who are involved in the adjudication and valuation of said dick?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Uh, that I don't know. Maybe his doctor, maybe his doctor's rating his dick. Yeah. Yeah. Went to the urologist. My doctor has so many notes on my dick.
Starting point is 00:21:41 It's so annoying. I'm just like, he said, I wish I had more hands. So I give that four thumbs down. And it's so annoying i'm just like he said i wish i had more hands so i could give that four thumbs down it's like what it's an old chapelle show line why would you say that about me doctor could be better could be better i mean look you want pointers yeah so a tiktok finance person thinks ai is overrated uh we we happen to concur on this podcast. We're not big AI fans here.
Starting point is 00:22:09 What are the reasons for AI being overrated? Yeah, he does have more legit reasons for that, but it sounds like an easy line to say. But I think part of it is just, I guess the short version is sort of what we're talking about. Most people don't use AI for... most people talking about how exciting ai is aren't using ai in the way that it should like everyone's just talking to chat gpt or having them write right an essay but it's really the people using ai are the villains right like these fake uh websites data harvesting right but most of
Starting point is 00:22:42 us don't know how to use it like that. And so it did make me think, though, if we all got more literate, we could be using AI to fight things like that. But I think we're so far behind right now. I'm actually more interested. I mean, because we're talking about finance. Is there a way to invest in your partner's dick if it's underrated? Can I get it on the ground floor? That would be interesting. Yeah, that's an interesting answer. Yeah, like an NFT. Sure. NFT. Yeah, yeah. I'll consult with him. You want to get in the ground floor of his dick?
Starting point is 00:23:10 I mean, look, I'm always looking for the next thing. You know what I mean? We are looking to take his dick public. Get immediately arrested. Unfortunately, there are some laws. I went to the New York Stock Exchange to take my dick public they arrested me immediately because you're not supposed to do that with the gavel rang the bell with my
Starting point is 00:23:31 dick yeah i mean that would be an impressive dick if you could ring the bell with the dick yeah yeah we'll be discussing this in congress yeah absolutely uh all right let's take a quick break we'll come back and we'll talk about another person's dick lieutenant governor mark robinson we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will
Starting point is 00:24:22 delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed
Starting point is 00:24:41 will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
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Starting point is 00:25:43 yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:26:22 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
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Starting point is 00:29:22 the horrific things that have been said by him would take too much time. And like, just trust us that he's like, like we said, anti-Semite, misogynist, anti-science, anti-LGBTQ+. Anti-MLK. Anti-MLK. Not a fan. He's got it all. We touched on him, I feel like, early in his campaign because this guy was saying such wild shit. We're like, they think they're going to win with this nonsense?
Starting point is 00:29:51 And just purely be like, well, he's Black MAGA. That might help. No. There is one clip. I'll play this one thing that happened in July where he was just saying like, you know, liberals just might have to die. People might just have to die. In talking about political violence, this is like at the end of June. And he's giving a bunch of weird examples from like World War II and sort of correlating that with like, and yeah, man, if people fuck with us, maybe like evil just has to be destroyed.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Here's Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson with a nuanced take on good versus evil. When the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, what did we do? We flew to Japan. And we killed the Japanese army in Navy. Flamed his fist. We didn't even quibble about it. I didn't start this fight. You did.
Starting point is 00:30:35 You wanted to be left alone? You should have left me alone. We didn't argue and capitulate and talk about, well, maybe we shouldn't fight the Nazis that hard. No, they're bad. Kill them. I will note that he did do a fundraiser with a nazi though so yeah he's he's he seems to have mixed yeah yeah he he vacillates on that point some liberal somewhere is gonna say that sounds awful too bad the way the liberal is gonna he's like i want to kill you you're not gonna like it right the liberal is gonna say it sounds awful that he's being mean want to kill you you're not gonna like it right the liberals gonna
Starting point is 00:31:05 say it sounds awful that he's being mean to me if you want to some folks need killing okay it's time for somebody to say it anyway so that's who was he talking about in that moment who what folks need killing it was essentially about political violence like where we shouldn't be shamed over this idea of political violence. It was kind of like his inroad here to that. This is not long before the Trump assassination attempt. No, it was like two weeks before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:34 The mainstream media like bent over backwards to be like, Biden made a metaphor about putting Trump in a bullseye. Could that have been it? Could that have been the thing? Remember when Trump did that with a judge? No? Alright, never mind. Keep it moving. It's still, it's all like very like, it's still like white supremacist
Starting point is 00:31:52 dog whistling, but they, when they get very excited when they're like, oh, he's a black man, so he can say all these things. But ultimately, he's saying all these things. We know what they're, he's the champion, the message of white supremacists. Oh yeah, 100%. 100%. I think that's why they love him so much, but that's wild. He called reports of the Holocaust hogwash.
Starting point is 00:32:11 But yeah, to your point, he does it in a folksy way, like hogwash. It's not like really, like Holocaust denialism is not a big deal if you use like good old-fashioned folksy down-home words like hogwash. Poppy cock. He was like good old fashioned folksy down home where it's like hogwash. Poppy cock. And endorsed a host remarks that Jewish bankers are one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. And Donald Trump, again, has full throated endorsed him and been like, this guy is the future of our party. Anyways, he has these very strong beliefs because he's, you know, a born-again Christian who just, like, can't stomach the filth that he lives amidst. A societal rock.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And so it was a surprise to all of us. New report has come out alleging that Robinson was a regular at two 24-hour porn stores back in the 90s and early 2000s when, you know, such a business could actually exist. I'm actually not sure if they still do exist. I know when I lived in Missouri, the drive between Columbia, Missouri and Kansas City, Missouri is like a two hour drive, one highway. And there are 24 hour video porn stores every 10 miles. Like on the side of the road. Just for truckers to jack off in. They need to jack off every 10 miles, I guess. Every 10 miles, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:44 It's just all they make in it. That's the law. Yes. But according, like he was there so often that, you know, the second he pops on the news, they're like, oh shit, that's Mark. That's surprising and impressive that they remember him. Wait, shit last Mark? Yeah. You have to go so often for them to know who you are.
Starting point is 00:34:03 He did. He was going five days a week at minimum. Because this story comes out from the guy who worked at the video store and he's like, yeah, he was actually a pretty regular dude. He was like, I'm surprised that he kind of went this way. The headlines,
Starting point is 00:34:17 I didn't, so I hadn't connected who he was and all my headlines this morning were just like, Mark Robinson loves porn says porn guys. He likes porn. Porn customer at porn depot like right yeah yeah he bought uh in addition to being there five days a week which is so much that's a full-time job but i mean you just think about like what he like, he apparently needed that because this was years ago. And now instead of doing that, presumably he gets up and says horrifying things about Hitler being cool, you know. So some people need porn.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yes. Get him to a porn store stat. He allegedly bought hundreds of bootleg porn tapes, which the clerk sold on the side. So I think I read somewhere, and I haven't fact-checked this, but that in North Carolina, you can't buy porn, so you have to.
Starting point is 00:35:15 They need these stores because you go there to view porn and jack off because you can't take the porn out it's like the you know the lot the dictionary encyclopedia part of the library you know the books that you like can't take home with you that's what that's how porn is regulated in north carolina but he was such a avid consumer that the guy at the porn store, whose name is Lewis Money, by the way, was selling him porn on the side and sold him hundreds of porn tapes.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Yeah, because the guy was saying, who worked at the store, quote, instead of them buying a $50 movie for one, because I think it was a price thing too, this guy would throw three pornos onto one VHS and sell them to Mark Robinson for $25. And that's how he was making his money. That's just good capitalism. I did that up until about 2004, which is when Mark owed me the money. Because apparently Mark Robinson still owes him $25 for one of these porn tapes that he never paid him.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And that's what kind of kicked this whole thing off. Yeah, this is why he's coming through is because he just didn't pay him the $25. Yeah. Yeah. So they got this information from Lewis Money and then they went a little deeper and asked lewis money like can anybody else corroborate and he's like yeah i got these like five guys who either worked there or patronized these two stores and they've just like got yeah the cast of cheers but for a pornography store where people jack off together like they all were like oh yeah mark is mark's a friend like
Starting point is 00:37:07 we need a mark just imagine him going in and be like i'll have my usual yeah the huge like he definitely had a usual where they're like they probably like have his name on like a bar stool in one of the jack office yeah one of the guys has a towel and a VHS. Yeah. One of the guys, the article from theassemblync.com who did the original reporting on this, the article is amazing because they talked to all these guys. Like, what was the deal? What was he like?
Starting point is 00:37:32 One guy said, Robinson usually came in with a pizza, purchased a preview, and went into a private booth to watch it and eat. So he was bringing pizzas with him into the booth and sometimes like hook, because I think at the time he worked at a Papa John's or something. So he would bringing pizzas with him into the booth and sometimes like hook, because I think
Starting point is 00:37:46 at the time he worked at a Papa John's or something. So he would hook people up with pizzas too from time to time. One guy said, one man described the future governor as funny, quote, I mean like hilarious. He would have like five or six of us up front dying laughing at four in the morning, almost like a standup routine, not copying Andrew Dice Clay, but almost like doing an Andrew Dice Clay comedy bit. That's amazing. That's wild. Four in the morning,
Starting point is 00:38:16 eating pizza in a jack off booth. Hitting a cigarette over his head like Andrew Dice Clay. Oh! Oh! But yeah. Pick a redick or reduck. Yeah, exactly. over his head like andrew days clay oh but yeah it's a ridiculous duck yeah exactly uh but yeah this is the guy who's out here talking about how he was saved how important it is how like what my you know mass shootings or karma for people having abortions yet here this man is like hiding his his
Starting point is 00:38:42 his sinful side yet accusing this is in greensboro north carolina and i did a comedy festival there once and someone had told me a comedian who does uh goes to like sex party is saying like that's apparently a place that surprisingly has great healthy sex party yeah scene yeah all right i'd love to hear that money noted that robinson might have a problem with gay people but i don't think he has a problem with lesbians so all these people they got for quotes are just killing it with their i know right like who wrote this article dice clay material coming in with free pizzas for everybody like he took and took Andrew Dice Clay bits, but he made them his own. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah. This is, oh. He would hit the cigarette under his leg instead of around his head, you know? Oh, yeah. Like, he would go between the legs with the smoke. Yep, yep, yep. Obviously, watching porn isn't a big deal.
Starting point is 00:39:39 It can be very good. Sometimes maybe it, you know, relieves this person from having wild, horrible thoughts and going out and getting elected governor. But he has used evangelical posturing to demonize the sins of other people, which included banning books featuring LGBTQ characters from school libraries, claiming that they were pornographicographic he's the expert you know yeah he's like i know just trust me i'm dropping i know from pornographic money the other thing people said was like this guy was spending a lot of money on the porno and he also
Starting point is 00:40:18 has a lot of stuff that he says in his speeches about how the democrats destroyed the economy and it ruined his businesses and like when you juxtapose that with all these people like dude this guy was buying so much porno you're like was it really the democrats that wrecked the economy or your love of the of the bootleg money on porn yeah yeah and does it still have them interesting um not i mean not to give any validity of the but just to dissect the statement that like Republicans will use about like, oh, like queer characters or LGBT equals pornographic. When you find out so many of these guys secretly are watching a lot of porn and the only, they don't have gay friends and the only times they see men kiss or, you know, it's like super sexual, hypersexualized in porn, because in porn you have every situation, right? Hypersexualized. But that's what they're looking at. I imagine a part of their brain connects that to porn, right? Like that only they see a romantic, you know, innocent first kiss on, you know, CW show. And then they're like, that's porn because they only ever see anything like that in a very extreme way. It's very fascinating. I mean, I don't know if they'll ever correct themselves, but I'm like, yeah, maybe there's, I feel that's where maybe that's coming from.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Yeah, maybe if you engaged with women as human beings instead of as characters in your porn addiction, then you would have less fucked up opinions about what they should do and like what your role is with with regards to their body. Yeah. And this is what's wild, though, too, is like a few weeks ago he was down 14 percent in the governor race against Josh Stein. And now he's cut that lead to about four, between four and 6% somehow. After the story broke? I don't know if it's, no, not after the story broke,
Starting point is 00:42:11 but just over the past weeks. People are like, oh shit, that's Mark? Mark from the Frums? Oh my God, he was really funny. We liked his jokes. That dude is hilarious. Yeah, I like how he used to call himself Jamal Dice Clay. He would kind of do like the black urban version of Andrew Dice Clay. We loved it. We loved it. We loved it. We loved it.
Starting point is 00:42:47 that this is going to hurt Trump's chances in North Carolina because he is profoundly unpopular in North Carolina for being a Republican. And maybe there's a chance that that drags Trump down as well. There's also like these reports that we talked about on Trending yesterday, but like that a lot of Republicans are now like, we actually want to lose now. So we have a party going forward. This is it's so funny, now. So we have a party going forward. This is so funny, though. It's like so American, too. It's like no one's willing to do the work themselves. It's like the people in power are never willing to do the work themselves.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like, no, you could have fucking ran this fool out on a rail, but that would have took, you know, you weathering the outrage mobs online. Yeah. I mean, I think the best thing is for him to lose really bad. And then we can come in like little political roaches and inherit the earth. Yeah. Well, we'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Oh, also, there's another scandal with Robinson that I don't want to forget. Recently obtained public records showed that his wife bought $3,000 worth of Girl Scout cookies in 2003, which overlaps with his porn usage, and then tried to get out of paying for them after the check bounced. The Girl Scouts had to sue and win the case
Starting point is 00:43:55 after nobody attended on behalf of the defendant. So they were trying to... So many cookies and also to just rip off Girl Scouts. I know. What are they going for? How did had it come what's yeah 2003 girl scout cookie prices i can't imagine like what that that's almost like when you find out how much drugs somebody had on them and you're like well they were clearly planning to like deal drugs like nobody consumes that much drugs you know right she's trying to sell her own cookies yeah like juice world when he passed away on that flight like the amount of weed he had people are like wait that doesn't make sense and then they like speculate
Starting point is 00:44:37 that he was trying like bringing it to friends as like a gift for them they could then deal it like what did he have his own girl scout cookie operation that he was trying to juice world reference my god the fuck are we right now i'm looking 2004 i said 350 a box 350 yeah that's around how much they were when i was i think i was that is a garage full. A thousand Girl Scout cookies? Boxes? A thousand boxes? That's a lot of boxes. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:13 You know what? The Girl Scouts have always been LGBTQ friendly, so maybe that's... she was trying to teach them a lesson. That's right. I had to turn her back on them. Exactly. She's like, oh, but those do-si-dos, lesson. That's right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I had to turn her back on them. Exactly. She's like, oh, but those, those do-si-dos though. They hit different.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Which are the do-si-dos? Are they the gingerbread? They're the, aren't they the peanut butter? They're different names. I know. They're different. There's two distributors. It's the oatmeal with the, oatmeal with the peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Isn't that do-si-do? Oatmeal with peanut butter? No, that's not even a cookie, man. The oatmeal cookie with the... Oh, wow. Am I in a different... Is that not what we have? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It's the oatmeal with peanut butter. Yeah, it's the oatmeal cookie with... Miles is AI now, so sometimes just the two thoughts blend in his brain. I have hallucinations. Oatmeal with the peanut butter the green box that's real there's a peanut no you're right peanut butter oatmeal damn dang was it called something else because you know we we have different because it only comes from like two
Starting point is 00:46:13 different bakeries we've talked about this too where there's like tagalongs or something but we i liked we had thin mint the the best ones are then mint tagalongs are chocolate covered yeah yeah anyway all that to say, Mark Robinson is the bad guy. Okay? I'm not on trial here. I'm not on trial here. Mark Robinson is. Let's take a quick break.
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Starting point is 00:51:38 Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Chase Bank. We cover TikTok trends here every once in a while. Because we're young. Talking about Juice WRLD. Yeah, I'm talking Juice WRLD. The amount of weed that was on his plane. I don't remember this. I believe you. You do the story, Miles, and I'll
Starting point is 00:52:20 look up how much weed was on Juice WRLD's plane when he died. Yeah, let me put my V-Lone hoodie on because I'm a V-Lone thug. Yes, the TikTok trends, usually when we talk about them, they're mostly harmless, like marinating cans of Diet Coke for optimal flavor.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Once it's refrigerated, it's refrigerated. Marinate just means refrigerate. Yeah, for many days. Oh, this one's hitting so good. And you're like, hey, whatever you got to do to get through the day. Until they're crispy. Sometimes you can put a little crystallized lime in there. Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:52:53 It was 70 pounds of marijuana in 41 vacuum sealed bags. Oh, yeah. 71 peas. That's a lot. That's my seven-year-old weight. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:03 But then sometimes there are these trends that come in the form of like terrible financial advice that usually just ends up being some form of fraud. Right. Case in point. Sounds like good financial advice, Miles. Yeah, exactly. That's right. Let me just play one. How to commit one.
Starting point is 00:53:18 This one was from like last year where this dude was basically saying like, just get some business cards and you can buy fucking 100 rack jeweled out watch iced out watches. This is again already looks this guy looks 12. He looks like he's 12. He's shirtless and has a gold chain on two gold chains. Actually, I stopped, bro. And wait till he pulls out his bus down on his wrist. Anyway, this is this is some sick ass financial advice on TikTok. You know how personal credit works. Let's say, for example, you'll get a car or a credit card
Starting point is 00:53:50 in your personal name. You're personally held responsible for that. So if you were to go get a credit card in your personal name and you were to go max the card out, you're going to be held liable. And if you don't make that payment back, the bank could come and sue you. Now, what makes us different about business credit? Well, business credit, you are not personally held responsible for that line of credit. So let's say for example, how I got this watch, I was able to open a business that I didn't really give a shit about. I went and opened business credit cards in that account. I then proceeded to go on, buy this for $100,000. I'm going to turn around and sell it to a jeweler for $80,000 in cash, which now gives me the cash. I'll file bankruptcy on the company.
Starting point is 00:54:26 I'll never have to actually pay it back because I'm not personally liable for that American Express card. Anyway, so he goes on. Yeah. We're so sorry, too. We didn't realize that was your fiance. Yeah, that is my fiance. I didn't even put him out. He looks great, though.
Starting point is 00:54:42 He looks awesome. Good for you. He looks healthy. Got to Lambo. Yeah, the face of finance. Yeah, it's that easy. Because filing for that, that will have no effect on you in any way either. So just yeah, go ahead. None of it's that started a business I really give a shit about. This is good business advice. Well, I got a fake watch on you could be like me. All right. And then this time last year, there's also the cash app glitch where people were able to send themselves like huge sums of money because there was some shit going on with the cash app that wasn't working. And people were immediately spending it on stuff like DoorDash.
Starting point is 00:55:16 And they're like wild videos where people were like doing spending thousands on food and drink and like throwing wild ass house parties and shit like that. The clips are very interesting interesting a lot of fun but once the company patched things up many people found themselves and shit like five-figure debt because yeah that's not your money then over labor day weekend another quote glitch they always call them fucking glitches like this glitch in the matrix popped up exactly dude glitch in the matrix glitch in capitalism where like capitalism doesn't fucking come for your ass somehow yeah it always does basically people were able to deposit like fake checks and got access to a significant portion of the funds that they deposited at an atm and pull that cash right out without any holding
Starting point is 00:56:02 period so the videos made it look super simple. People were fucking throwing cash in the air. They're like, I can't believe this shit is working. And the TikTok algorithm blasted this shit all over people's For You pages. Then the same story here. Chase fixed the problem and the people that had glitched their accounts found themselves looking at huge negative balances by Monday. And many of the people that fell for this, obviously like young people who aren't super financially literate or financially literate at all.
Starting point is 00:56:32 And they just couldn't believe that there was a way to get free money. And the platform has so many influencers already that are like criminally financially illiterate. And they are building audiences off of like disaffected young people who are willing to take a gamble on shit like this just to try and you know get their piece too and tragically just putting them into a deeper financial hole because again these aren't these aren't fucking glitches this is you trying to defraud the country's largest bank this ain't grand theft auto where you stumbled upon a fucking loophole yeah to fucking get your way to lambo yeah they fix
Starting point is 00:57:10 errors so fast when it's against them but when it's against you oh it takes years it takes so long yeah they have double paid on a sorry oh i double paid on a chase card once because i was like i'm gonna pay like i had a fairly large um balance and i was like, I'm going to pay. Like, I had a fairly large balance. And I was like, I got paid and I paid it once. But then I didn't go through, I thought. So then I paid it again. Yeah. And then it went through twice.
Starting point is 00:57:32 And I was like, oh, I didn't mean to pay this twice because it was like too much. And I was like, no, I need the cash. Right. And it took them like three months to actually reverse it, which was very annoying because it was like $4,000. That's so annoying. Sounds standard. Yeah. very annoying because it was like that's so annoying sounds standard yeah they are again like just you know human beings consumers individuals do not have government backing
Starting point is 00:57:52 they we we do not have anybody creating laws to look out for us in this country corporations have people they have laws to protect them. They have well-funded legal departments who are going to figure out how to get your ass. Do not try to scam corporations because they will get you. Don't scam people because it's fucked up and immoral. Don't scam corporations because they're going to, you're not going to get away with it.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah. I mean, if anyone's figured out a glitch, it's the corporations. Yeah. They're like liability glitch. Watch this. I will fleece these people of their money and there's nothing you can do about it. Or you'll have to go through lengthy legal processes that you just can't endure. So we win.
Starting point is 00:58:39 But like, I don't blame these kids for trying. You know what I mean? Like our society has like glorified billionaire culture and social media has like amplified our ability to compare our life situation to others completely unrealistic situation so you know like there are countless stories too you see if people who are scamming ppp loans at the start of the pandemic for their own personal gain so i'm sure none of these people are like why wouldn't i try and get mine through some glitch but sadly again there i felt like this was a lesson i learned so early on
Starting point is 00:59:12 that like was drilled into my head which was there is no such thing as free money just so you know anybody is offering you free money run there until you have like millions of dollars and then you get free money via like yeah yeah you just sit buy a slum like apartment just borrow against it dude that's the only free money there is but like this sort of thing it's not going to work out for you and if it's going viral on tiktok it's too late yeah right but that's interesting you're talking about like the because it is kids doing this and i think even during because i'm bringing my fiance back but like when he was trading during the pandemic a lot of the kids on tiktok they would post their gains and of course some of them get into a crazy debt but like they also
Starting point is 01:00:00 start with nothing so some of the ones that make the most and they, you know, exceptions, but it's exciting when you see one because they post it and everyone's like, maybe that could be me. They're not afraid to over leverage and make stupid decisions, which I would not recommend, but you do see them succeeding sometimes
Starting point is 01:00:15 because they're like, you know, 20 and they're like, have nothing to their name and they over leverage and they take advantage of a glitch and then suddenly they're like up a million and then they over leverage that and then they're willing to lose everything because they have nothing right and yeah it's kind of wild like i wonder what the future is going to be with all these kids who
Starting point is 01:00:32 kind of had their young youth like this like this is not how i thought about money at all when i well right because there's also this all this hustle culture bullshit too that has people just in this like really unrealistic frame of mind for how anything works and again it's fucked up because already the reality the financial reality for most young people is so bleak that you would end up you know i won't fuck it like why don't i just fucking steal if it looks like everybody's just fucking stealing or not getting it properly and the the sad thing is there are plenty of people who like have sound financial advice on TikTok or things like that. So rather than like learning about like, I don't know, fucking index funds or like properly budgeting and shit like that, you fall into something where like a 19 year old is like, yeah, so this is how I have a iced out Lambo toilet.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Every time I flush it, VVS diamonds come out, you know know and like it's all through a glitch called my grandfather uh was you know uh andrew carnegie yeah yeah it's the same as the lottery though it's like i mean that's been working the same way for a long time that like the only it's good content as long as you're looking at the winner and your brain is going to remember the winner it's not going to remember like the people first of all they're not even going to cover it on the news like and these 30 people all spent way too much money on lottery tickets right and now look at the awkward silence at the dinner table after they're having to just eat that and sit sadly and and eat spaghetti out of a can it's just there's there's this one video i put like
Starting point is 01:02:06 the screen cap of it in there where like this kid you know thought it thought it was a glitch but you can tell like he he's like duetting you know like a video like it's it's not really a duet but he's like green screening himself into his own bank balance where he owes forty thousand dollars from doing the chase thing and do this kid is so fucking upset. Like I was playing, you can kind of hear just this kid keeps rubbing his face. Like he can't believe how much he just fucked this whole thing up. Just can't believe it. Yeah. Oh man. They really told me to tap in next day. I was supposed to clear.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Look at my account. Yo. Oh, like I can feel this kid's pain. Do you know what I mean? Like a lot of money. That's so much fucking money. I don't know how old you are or where you're at in your life,
Starting point is 01:03:01 but nobody can, nobody's eating a 40 grand like that and that and everything that you're gonna earn has to go towards i mean obviously there might be a way to work this out but like you can you can see just like the highs and lows of it where like a few days earlier everyone was like laughing their asses off at the atm they couldn't believe their good fortune and then the fucking hammer of reality comes down on your head and you're left there falling victim to like you know what you thought was free money when there is no such thing um yeah it's it's it's really fucking it's it's a it's a like an
Starting point is 01:03:37 encapsulation just like kind of everything that's happening because people's you know like your economic or your financial recourse like you have no financial recourse so it's easier to dive into some shit like this yeah but anyway so yeah uh anyone for anybody with younger uh or you know young people listening anything that's a glitch uh stay the fuck away from that uh you know there's no such thing as a glitch. And I think that's what's. Again, unless you are a corporation and we do have a lot of listeners who are corporations. Yes. You are able to take advantage of a glitch or an inefficiency over and over and over and over again.
Starting point is 01:04:17 And that that is how a lot of people became billionaires. You just need to do it and get rich enough so that by the time they catch it, you're rich enough to have your own legal department, basically. Right, exactly. And then you're like, fine, man, I'll eat that fine. What is it, like a fraction of what I stole? Yeah, every time the SEC finds a company and it's comical compared to what they make. $3 million. It's like, what was their revenue last year?
Starting point is 01:04:43 $14 billion. Yeah. All right. billion it's like what was their revenue last year 14 billion yeah all right well tt lee what a pleasure having you back on the daily zeitgeist yeah where can people find you follow you all that yeah it's so fun you can find me on social media at t lee bot that's t l e e b o t i'm not promoting anything i just came off my tour but if you're interested in seeing me in the future, I have a mailing list. It's just tinyurl.com slash Tlee Comedy. That's T-L-E-E Comedy.
Starting point is 01:05:11 And then I'm trying to build that out more as I travel. So hopefully I can let people know when I do shows around the world. Hopefully more international shows now. Yeah. More French baguettes. Yeah. Less COVID, more French baguettes. Yeah, less COVID, more French baguettes.
Starting point is 01:05:26 More baguettes, also baguette diamonds too. You know what I mean? Any financial advice? You got any financial advice that you can give us? I have so much to add. Do not listen to me. Do not get a liberal arts degree
Starting point is 01:05:36 from NYU. Study data science. Go get a STEM degree. Yeah, learn a trade. You know, you don't even have to go to college. You know, get in a union, you know you don't even have to go to college you know yeah get in that get in a union you know the elevator repair union start a fake clothing brand data harvest yes
Starting point is 01:05:52 yeah there you go is there a work of media that you've been enjoying oh i've been really enjoying um ludacris's tiktok ludacris has um i don't know how recently he's joined TikTok, but he's recently come across my feed quite often. And I love Luda. Classic renaissance man. I just loved how his... I've loved him from the fantasy days to the fast and the furious days to now
Starting point is 01:06:17 he's posting astrology TikToks. I think he's probably trying to get posed to launch a project. But his TikTok, which I'm sure you can tell a social media person he's hired and is get posed to like launch a project, but his Tik TOK, which I'm sure you can tell a social media person he's hired and helping them with. There's still elements of him and it's so fun. Like he has one was just,
Starting point is 01:06:32 I imagine the social media person was like, talk about astrology, but then he gets into it and there's just videos of him talking about like the difference between like a September Virgo and August Virgo. And he just goes off. He would say that as a Virgo. Yeah. Yeah. He is a Virgo. Cause he famous. He talks up his Virgo-ness. He's got multiple Virgo and he just goes off. He would say that as a Virgo. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:45 He is a Virgo. Because he's famous. He talks up his Virgoness all the time. He's got multiple Virgo videos. Yes. Yeah. His birthday is 9-11.
Starting point is 01:06:54 All good things. I did not know that. Wow. Okay. So I'm expecting a big 9-11 post I'm a bit of a Ludacris fan as well.
Starting point is 01:07:00 A bit of a Luda fan too. What's your favorite Luda lyric? Oh, man. Maybe from... It's okay. I'm lyric? Oh, man. Maybe from... It's okay. Well, he's on his song Fat Rabbit, but it's also pretty... It's pretty vulgar. Explicit.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But, you know, I definitely like... I would say probably... I would probably say, oh, no, the fight's out. I'm about to punch your lights out. I just like that to start off because whenever i hear that i'm like oh no like it just whenever you hear it like at a wedding or some shit it just i i don't know how to act anymore yeah get the fuck back guard your grill you're like whoa whoa whoa but i love that i love that i love the ones where because sometimes you'll be
Starting point is 01:07:41 really vulgar like you said but sometimes you'll say something and it's like cute. I don't know. Like, I love the, this one really stands out when he goes like, fill her up, balloons. Or it's amazing. Fill her up, balloons. It's like, that one just plays over my head. Oh, man. I like 202 from Area Codes because I lived in Washington, D.C. at the time.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Oh, hell yeah. Wait, what were you saying, Miles? see um uh him drinking the glacier water and everyone was really worried about that's a great one too yeah he's got good content it's like some of it is classic promo content but it's with ludicrous so it's cute yeah and then some is him just talking about being a virgo we love amazing uh miles where can people find you is there work in media you've been enjoying i pulled up with a million trucks looking smelling feeling like a million bucks past the bottle the heat is on we in the huddle all smoking that cheech and chong that's another one um there's he's they're just easy i think that was the other thing too was ludo was like you know he's like more comedic because he wasn't he's not really a gangster he
Starting point is 01:08:43 was like a radio dj before he started rapping so his lyrics were very like they're fun and i think that's he filled that uh lane just a perfect niche uh you can find me at miles of gray on twitter and instagram you can find jack and i talking about the basketballs on miles jack on mad boosties uh talking 90 day on 420 day fiance uh let's see if work immediate i've been watching love is blind uk i love love is blind i like trash reality shows that are about dating and love is blind uk is no different it's just that the accents are a little bit more sophisticated but the people still just as desperate and are making bad decisions for my enjoyment so that's what i've been watching love is tweets, though.
Starting point is 01:09:26 I haven't seen a tweet recently. I haven't seen one. Don't know what it is. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. I enjoyed a tweet by at that Brenna who tweeted, the only squat I'm doing is diddly. My favorite exercise. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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Starting point is 01:10:19 psychedelic trippy tracks that he's like really trippy psychedelic guitar but just sort of like really smooth vocals too this track just feels like a really good kind of like lazy summer song because i know you know people always say labor day is the end of summer but i like to just still have music that feels easy and hot weather and this is a great track it's called when sunday comes around by marlin funaki f-u-n-a-k-i so check all right we will link off to that in the footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning we are back this
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