The Daily Zeitgeist - Gov. Zack Morris? Hell Hath No Furry 9.18.19

Episode Date: September 18, 2019

In episode 476, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Teresa Lee to discuss SNL dropping Shane Gillis, Trump trying to court Hispanics, what could happen if Trump refuses to step down, Milo Yiannopoul...os being kicked out of Furry convention, Sean Spicer's Dancing With The Stars debut, Pizza Hut and Kelloggs bringing us stuffed Cheese-it pizza, stream warz, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Saturday Night Live Drops Shane Gillis After Backlash to Racist Remarks2. Trump Cringingly Courts Latino Vote: “Who Do You Like More, the Country or the Hispanics?”3. What Happens if Trump Won’t Step Down?4. Neo-Nazis Are Tearing the Furry World Apart5. Furry Convention Shows Milo Yiannopoulos the Door6. Sean Spicer’s Dancing Debut Was a Disaster. He Made It Even Worse Once the Cameras Were Off.7. Pizza Hut and Kellogg partner to create stuffed Cheez-It pizza8. ‘Big Bang Theory’ Coming to HBO Max Following $600 Million Deal9. A Saved by the Bell Revival Is Finally Happening10. WATCH: Bacao Rhythm & Steel Band - All For The Cash Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 It's Wednesday, September 18th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. The News Ghostbuster. That's courtesy of The Ramen King, based on Robert Evans' mistranslation of Zeitgeist. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Ray! My mom's calling again. Oh, Boston gang is real. She won't get off this call. Saying raccoons are evil. Damn.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Damn. I welcome the embrace of that bomb And I'm sure Christy Yamaguchi-Maine does too At Crispy Meme Donut I called, he responded Thank you for that Lincoln Park A.K.A. Keep those coming I will also still do Nickelback
Starting point is 00:03:19 You know, I'm just feeling like Many different genres for these A.K.A.'s But for now, let's keep them both coming Thank you to all of you. And thank you for the belated birthday wishes also. Yeah, yeah. I appreciate that. You're the big...
Starting point is 00:03:30 Big 96 years old. 96? Yep. You look amazing. You look terrible for your age. Nah, man, 35. 35. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Just like Prince Harry. I can't lie, you know, because people already know how old Prince Harry is. They know how old I am. Yeah, that's true. And I am the internet's... Known fact. I'm the internet's Prince Harry, as we all know. Because the internet lacks a Prince Harry. Yeah, it really does.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Teresa Lee. What's up? Welcome back. What's up? Welcome back. I'm the Scarlett Johansson of Asians in Comedy. I was going to say, yeah, with your blonde hair, I was like, this is a little problematic for me. Yeah, appropriation goes both ways.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah, it really does. Do you think, you know somebody might do that shit. They're like, oh, and what about her hairstyle? Yeah. Oh, no, it's going to happen. Has there been somebody who's been called out for appropriating Aryan hair? Well, people have been called out for being like trying to assimilate.
Starting point is 00:04:28 But that's more tricky because I feel like Well, that's called mental colonization. Because I do think I remember, you know, before Beyonce was Queen B, but she was rising as Beyonce, people called her out for like dying her hair and lightening her skin or maybe so allegedly perhaps. Well, no, but I mean more in the sense of like people saying like
Starting point is 00:04:43 you can't have blonde hair because that's cultural. Because that's our thing. No, because most of the blondes I know who are white are fake blondes. It's a lifestyle that they buy into when they're 12. Blonde is a lifestyle. It's a state of mind. It's not a culture.
Starting point is 00:04:56 How has your blonde hair changed your life, Teresa? Wow, I am very rich. You're a rich Caucasian woman. People approach you on the street um i can do money uh you know the one thing that i realized when i did this was i didn't know like i've done it before but this time it hurt way more and i just have a new admiration like it burns your head when they bleach your hair blonde to the point where i was crying i was like take it out and uh the woman who did it she was a korean woman she was like beauty is pain and just like refused
Starting point is 00:05:24 to do it like she's it's like she's seen like, beauty is pain and just like refused to do it. Really? Like she's it's like she's seen it so much where she's like, you look like you're dying, but I know you'll be fine. Right. You need this pain. So I kind of do admire people who are hot for a living because I think it's very painful. I think they're constantly. Oh, yeah. Crying.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Totally. Just from like bleach. I'm so ignorant because I know I think it's like how corsets are going to be in the future where we're like, that was just bad. I think we're just burning our scalps. And everyone does it and it's okay, but I can't be good for you. The only thing I can connect it to is that scene in Malcolm X when he's relaxing his hair. And I asked my grandfather, I was like, what was that? He's like, that shit hurts.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Right, with the hot comb. Wow. Wow. grandfather's like what was that he's like this shit hurts right with the hot comb yeah yeah wow yeah i expect to uh to be very rich by this time next year or it will not have been worth it right uh well beauty is pain i think we've all learned a lesson yes sir uh we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today we're gonna say a fond farewell fond farewell to Shane Gillis from the cast of SNL. Peace out, shitbird. What a run. What a run.
Starting point is 00:06:32 We're going to talk about Trump's very tonally sound attempts to appeal to Hispanic voters. Well, again, we keep thinking maybe we've got him cornered this time. And he punches his way out somehow. Oh, man. He's a genius. He's a political genius. All the right-wing people who said that, I think. We got egg on our face.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah. We look pretty silly. We're going to talk about whether the president will step down if he loses the 2020 election. Milo Yiannopoulos is trying to be a furry now yeah we're gonna talk about how that's going uh sean spicer uh should be you know trying to be a furry somewhere but instead uh he is being normalized by dancing with the stars we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about a new pizza hut uh food innovation bless them uh and the stream wars upcoming uh creations from that uh and of course we'll talk about the oa uh the canceled netflix show uh but first teresa we like
Starting point is 00:07:36 to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, so I Googled what it means when your dog keeps sleeping under your bed when they used to sleep on your bed. So rather than on top with you? Yeah, so he used to sleep on my bed and I used to try to teach him not to, but then he just did it and I was like, okay. And then all of a sudden he won't sleep on my bed
Starting point is 00:08:03 and he kind of like, I kind of feel like it's like a, you know. Personal rejection. Yeah, it really feels like I'm in a loveless marriage. He did just get his annual checkup and he's fine. So it's not a health thing. So I thought maybe he was having some sort of emotional aversion to me. But most articles just said like they, it might be depression, which I'm not sure. Or it might be that which I'm not sure or it might be
Starting point is 00:08:25 that they just are hot but it really it really feels like the way he's been like we'll come home and now instead of going to my room that where he usually does he goes to my roommate's room and her doors usually close and then he sniffs for a moment and then looks at me and then goes to my room so I'm like this dog he never scratches at your roommate's door though right because that would be a dagger through my heart that would be like please get me away
Starting point is 00:08:48 from this bitch exactly it does feel like a very subtle emotional warfare yeah I feel like he's trying to tell me
Starting point is 00:08:56 that he doesn't want to be in this relationship I really don't know what to do like do you give up a dog that doesn't love you as much anymore
Starting point is 00:09:04 was there no like evolutionary reason for that? Because I always wondered why like my dog always sleeps at the foot of my bed. Yeah. And I read that it's like a pack animal thing. Right. Where they're just like, no, my station is to be at the foot. I think that's what I've read that I'm supposed to be the alpha. Perhaps I did something that in his eyes ashamed him.
Starting point is 00:09:23 You self-cucked in front of your dog? Perhaps. So now he doesn't respect me and he's choosing to. This weak ass master. It's very bizarre. I don't have an answer. Any dog owners out there? I think you've got to beat up another dog in front of him. I think I do, yeah. We'll do, okay, so he doesn't
Starting point is 00:09:40 speak English, but I will. Well, you don't know that. Yeah, he is here. I do feel a little awkward. Okay, well, we'll test this out. I will come Well, you don't know that. Yeah, he is here. So I do feel a little awkward. Okay, well, we'll test this out. I will come and like fake rob him on the street. Oh, and I'll save him. Yes, exactly. Throw hot coffee in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I think I have to defend our abode from a robber. Right, right. And then he'll respect me again. Exactly. And don't tell your roommate either because her or whoever your roommate is, you don't want them to give, you want them to react as authentically as possible so the dog knows that you are the protector. Yeah, I think that's a very good idea.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I think I'll do that. So if anyone wants to rob me, I will give you my address. After the show. But if that doesn't work, the only responsible thing is for you to give him to me because your dog is adorable and I want him. He does kind of look a little like Finn.
Starting point is 00:10:23 They have similar mannerisms. He's like a less just messed up looking version of Finn. My dog has an eye that goes in all sorts of different directions. I like to call that an independent eye. Woo-Woo has wonky eyes. Oh, really? Yeah, his eyes are wonky. You call him wonky, I'll call him independent. I'll call him call him independent right you know what i mean not dependent on the other one the independent
Starting point is 00:10:49 spirit award goes to my dog the thing i was thinking of remember in that piece about uh what's her name the calloway influencer caroline caroline calloway yeah there was a reference to how she would like had a bunch of king charles cavaliers or whatever and i thought i was like i wonder what Jack thought. Yeah, no, all narcissists. That's our favorite type of dog. Was it that she wasn't taking, what was the reference to? And another King Charles that she would barely pay attention to?
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah, she wouldn't take care of it. And other people had to deal with it. Yeah, I also think more dogs would sleep under beds if they thought about it. It's more comfortable. I mean, logically, well,
Starting point is 00:11:28 no dogs like cave, like dogs used to like live in dens. And so like, that's a comfortable thing for them to do. Right. Comforting. Yeah. It's not the fact that he's under the bed.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It's the fact that all of a sudden he changed. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I think I just have to work on you know my our relationships maybe uh maybe i should pass him around to other friends for a couple weeks at a time and then that way let him explore his options yeah or like us and but or anyway we can we can talk about all kinds of ways to manipulate your dog emotionally oh no later look it's clearly
Starting point is 00:12:01 something you did i was just trying to scare your feelings. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, gosh. What is overrated? I think owning houseplants and having a ton of them is overrated. Only because this is a personal vindiction because I can't keep them alive. And if I can't do it and I was a straight-A student, then nobody else should do it. and if I can't do it and I was a straight A student then nobody else should do it I feel like I'm a mother who's trying to get pregnant
Starting point is 00:12:27 and everywhere I see babies everywhere I mean people are posting these pictures of their beautiful homes beautiful plants and I've tried and I've tried and every plant I've had dies I believed myself to be part of the no plant can survive under my care tribe of people. But then God decided to smile on you and Her Majesty.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And then Her Majesty knows how to water plants. But no, I realized I was just terrible at watering plants. And so now I have like, we got alarms that we got to adhere to to keep them fit. Or also, are you killing succulents too? and so now I have like we got alarms that we gotta we gotta adhere to to keep them fit or also like are you trying like how many are you killing succulents too I feel like I've heard about this with you one succulent I put in my bathroom I didn't know okay you know what I was wrong no the succulent is not supposed to go in the bathroom it's too humid so that was my mistake but every plan I've gotten I've also it's been like someone will say oh this is a very easy one
Starting point is 00:13:23 and then I'll put it in the one worst place because I buy them from Home Depot, which I guess is not what you're supposed to do because apparently they don't really know how to tell you what to do. They all keep going under your bed, which is a problem. Maybe that's what it is. He's mourning his sibling plants that have died. Right, right. No, maybe I'll give it another shot. I just feel like it's so much heartbreak. I feel like I can't bear fern.
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's just hard. I can't do it. I can't bear fern. It's overrated because it also feels like the thing I'm supposed to have. Right, right, right. Hey, you know what? Fake plants. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:59 They're getting better. I have one fake plant. Yeah. And it's thriving. Yeah, it's there. It's alive. It's thriving with dust. We have a fake plant that looks real And it's thriving. Yeah, it's there. It's alive. It's thriving with dust. We have a fake plant that looks realer than our real plants.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Really? People are like, ooh, what kind of plant is that? What kind of tree is that? That's a chippewa tree. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's the genus. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:19 What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. Okay. I had two. Let's see. I'm going gonna go with this one because it's related to what you guys talked about yesterday i think robot instagram accounts are underrated there are bot accounts that like uh you know we all know about little michaela but there's a lot more there's like um what's her face bermuda is bay there's blocko do you guys know about these
Starting point is 00:14:42 i mean i know michaela and I know like her brother. They're very much in the same vein. But I think they're so crazy because they've really gotten down the tone of the influencers. And not only like at first, I think people follow them because they think, oh, cool. We'll just like it's kind of a joke and we're all in on it. But then you're actually giving them power when they have followers. So they're making brand deals. And then you are actually just buying into their story.
Starting point is 00:15:05 There's one called Bermuda is Bay, and she had like a little beef with Michaela because they were dating the same guy. There's like full-on storylines. And so she'll post stories where she's like, this man is trash. And then she's like sad and then she's crying. And really, even though you know it's fake,
Starting point is 00:15:20 you watch it and you are into it. And I think, I mean, that's the future i don't know i remember the first time i saw a little michaela post i was like something's wrong with her skin and i was like wait too good this is a rendering of a fake robot intelligence that has really sick style and has all off-white outfits well what i love about them is that they aren't trying to hide the fact that they're robots they're're out there calling themselves, like, it's like bot culture. I know, which is so weird. I guess that was really wild to me.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I mean, because I do follow Lil Mikaela. Yeah. But the second, like, the captions start becoming real and, like, they're trying to create a narrative around them, I'm sort of like, eh. But how is that any different? Okay, I posture you this. When you look at it, like, you probably follow tons of influencers, right, Miles? Oh, yeah. I mean, people who follow influencers, most of them don't meet them in real life, but they believe they're real because they are.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Right. And then they buy into their stories. But really, at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter if there's a person behind it. It's all through the screen. Right. Well, because everything, you know, through your eyes, you know, and the screen is truth or you can believe it to be true. So, yeah, it all depends. It's the singularity happening because it's doing exactly what a real thing would do at almost virtually no difference, except for you knowing it's a bot.
Starting point is 00:16:35 But they own that they're a bot. And knowing, like, the three comedians that write for all of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you know people who write for robot influencers? There are plenty of people who have, like, I mean, all these people, many people write for robots. That's my dream job, to write for a robot, honestly. Right. I would love that.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Oh, hey, wow. They're harsh taskmasters. Aiming high, aren't we? We'd love to write for a robot and live forever. Right. You know you, in fact, would still be mortal, right? This is clear. I mean, Teresa obviously knows we have a lot of robots who listen to this podcast and is trying to.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah, if you have any need for someone very talented with the written word, please reach out to Larissa T. So the people who are appearing in her pictures with her, how do those shoots happen? I don't know. I think there's a model. That's fascinating. There's a model. Who helps occupy the physical space for shadows and things like that. And then they put them in.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah, because some of them are not good actors. And you can tell they're like putting their hand somewhere that is just like mid, middle distance. But yeah, sometimes it looks fairly seamless. Like, yeah, how did we get this Michaela on Daily Zake? Right. We keep reaching out to her people. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Okay, I'm not going to, like originally I did want to, I'm not going to talk about robots, but I just need to put that out there that my myth was going to be a robot. But you guys talked about it yesterday. So I'm going to do another one. Your myth was going to be robots can't kill you? No, men are freaking out about robots killing them, and it's not the real fear. They're just afraid of not being powerful.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Oh, okay. Because robots aren't going to kill you. We created robots. If you create a robot that kills you, it will kill you, but you're creating it. Anyways, I'm not going to get into that. But my myth is, okay, so I'm dating a couple right now. It's a man and a woman, And I've never dated a couple before. And I feel like there's a myth that when it's like a guy and two girls having sex, it's like a fantasy.
Starting point is 00:18:31 But in reality, it's usually more about the two women. And most of the time, we're just kind of like laughing at him. And I think that that would deter a lot of men from objectifying women and wanting to get in threesomes and also encourage more women who like women to get into these situations because it's really fun to be like look at another woman be like that was ridiculous okay he's gonna go over there and hang out because he's already he's tapped out he's tapped out yeah and we'll yeah take 45 make us a sandwich. We'll see you. There you go.
Starting point is 00:19:06 After the game. How long have you been in this, what do you call it, thruple? Well, we're not serious, so I wouldn't call it a thruple. They are a couple and I'm casually dating them. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah, so like about two months. Are y'all exclusive? No. Okay. Yeah. So I like getting your business, like the concerned mom. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And are they seeing other people? Yeah. Or is this me, my little baby? is uh every yeah everything is very um communicative and nice um but yeah i just think that's something i didn't expect and i didn't ever think i wanted to be able to just like have like a you know an ally sure in a in a situation where you're having sex with a man right right like in real time you get this without having to text someone in the middle yeah like you're not gonna believe this it's really crazy and it's fine he takes it in good fun like i feel like you should right i think that's the only way that that kind of a relationship better have a sense of humor about yourself yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:19:58 right exactly damn uh all right let's talk about shane gis, guys Speaking of having a sense of humor about yourself Yeah, bye So the second this came out Just the video of him being incredibly racist I immediately said to Miles How long till this dude is like an alt-right comic? It's gonna take a little bit Because he has a weird hand to play, right?
Starting point is 00:20:24 There's maybe a chance he could reenter mainstream comedy if he actually showed some kind of growth or repented, but that doesn't look likely. So then he's going to have to become very sullen. I don't know if he's at the requisite darkness to full-on embrace to become an alt-right hero yet. He's probably just going to... I feel like he's going to get a much bigger fan base out of this.
Starting point is 00:20:44 He's going to be able to just appeal to his fans. And I don't think he's going to grow because of this. I mean, it's very unfortunate the way it all came out because it's like they should have just done their research. Like, I just think Twitter outrage sucks. But now knowing what I know about him, like, yeah, no, that guy shouldn't be on TV. But why did that have to happen through Twitter? That's all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, depending on who, who you get your comedy takes from, uh, there was like a really,
Starting point is 00:21:11 like so many people have either come to just drill, like just flame this dude or to put on their cape and protect him. Uh, Rob Schneider is very notably recently was like, yeah, man, sorry for these comedic missteps or something like that. He's like, it's unfortunate that someone's comedic missteps. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, man, sorry for these comedic missteps or something like that. He's like,
Starting point is 00:21:25 it's unfortunate that someone's comedic missteps. Like, no, no, no, sir. He's not comedic. He's like part Asian, but didn't he do like yellow face too? Oh, yeah. Yeah, but and here's the thing
Starting point is 00:21:34 with like Rob Schneider, I understand that he's maybe a quarter Filipino. But like, that's the sort of thing, right? When you have like sort of internalized white supremacy. It's the same way
Starting point is 00:21:44 when I was a kid, I would do jokes that played on me being asian or black to make my white friends laugh because they had a very one-dimensional understanding of what it meant to be black or asian right and then over time you sort of get disgusted with yourself or if you have the wherewithal to understand you're like i'm performing for the dominant culture i'm not performing to empower myself i'm belittling myself to curry favor with the dominant culture. I'm not performing to empower myself. I'm belittling myself to curry favor with the dominant culture. It's Andrew Yang.
Starting point is 00:22:07 That's what we were talking about with him. When he does the same shit being like, well, you know, I'm an Asian, so I know doctors. Or I'm an Asian, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:22:13 It's like, fam, if you do that in front of an all Asian audience, they'll be like, this is tired. You can't do that, especially if you're running for presidency
Starting point is 00:22:20 because there are people who actually do think that. I think that's a tricky thing is he comes from a culture where he's like comfortable enough to make those jokes to like lighten the mood if he's with people who get it and he's just trying to call out a stereotype but i feel like when you you you just have to let that go because it's a stereotype so if you're even you can't just
Starting point is 00:22:35 be like and that's the good stereotype you guys think right it's just like that's still you're speaking to people who think that then yeah and that's that's bad. Yeah. It's a good way for him to break the ice in a room full of middle-aged white businessmen. Yeah, and they're like, oh, good. Oh, good, he's cool with, like, racism. Yeah. Essentially, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Because that's all the whole shit is. And then again, do you want to read Rob Schneider's full take? Yeah, so I'll read his, well, first of all, I guess we didn't specifically say Shane Gillis got fired from SNL. What? No. Sorry, yeah. we didn't specifically say Shane Gillis got fired from SNL. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah. Yeah. So SNL statement is they decided he will not be joining the SNL cast. He had an impressive audition. We're not aware of his prior remarks. What about the mainstream media take here? The language he used is offensive, hurtful and unacceptable. We're sorry that we did not see these clips earlier and that our vetting process was not up to our standards.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Offensive, hurtful, and unacceptable language. Don't say racist. Right. Yes, yes. That's the thing when people say, oh, he's just saying what people are thinking. That means he's just saying what racists are thinking. I don't think that. Every take I've seen from a comedian trying to defend it is not one that actually acknowledges that racism is bad. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:50 His viewpoint is racist. It's not that he's making a joke. It's that it's a racist viewpoint. Right. It's like, well, he's pushing the boundary. What? The boundary of what's acceptable discourse between human beings? Because I did not see a joke there.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yeah. So anyways, Rob Schneider's tweet. It was dear Shane. Dear Shane M. Gillis. As a former SNL cast member, I am sorry that you had the misfortune of being a cast member during this era of cultural unforgiveness where comedic misfires are subject to the intolerable inquisition of those who never risked bombing on stage themselves. First of all, not on stage.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Definitely not a joke. And he wasn't bombing. He was on his podcast laughing with his friend. Right. Exactly. And a comedic misfire? No. Rhetorical misfire.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Right. And just in your general humanity. And I think there's something, too, even the comments on that thread were interesting, where obviously you have people being like, yeah, man, PC culture is ruining comedy. Coming from the people who truly understand comedy right uh but then also too like you do realize that a lot of it that can be i feel like comedians who are like coming to his defense in the most you know aggressive way are people who see that oh wait i think this is like what he said i thought is comedy right and if that isn't then who am i
Starting point is 00:25:05 yeah they're freaking out because they're like if i think if they laughed along with it then they're like oh shit if you can get canceled for saying this that means i can't think this right right and what now i can't do my whole like these are the these are the accents i grew up hearing in my town from my cleaning ladies right like type it and you're like what the fuck where's this going um zach broussard had a funny tweet. He was like, oh, now that they fired Chan Gilles, who's going to play the Asian characters?
Starting point is 00:25:30 Shit. Shout out to Bowen Yang, who unfortunately I think is like a victim of all this too, because now, you know, hopefully, you know, like we'll move this shit bird along
Starting point is 00:25:40 and get to the real business when the season starts. Also the Rob Schneider thing is just an example of, like, he, I remember the first time he was raging against the machine was when, like, somebody wrote a mean review of The Hot Chick or, like, Deuce Bigelow 2. Rachel McAdams is great in that. Right. Yeah, she was, actually.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But now he's, like, suddenly the free speech spokesperson because that's a thing I was noticing when this writer for some right-wing site was like, the last real rebels in today's media are, and was listing Dave Chappelle. It was just people who have been criticized by the mainstream media. Right, right. been criticized by the mainstream media right and like that's sort of a version of this if the mainstream media or like the mainstream culture rejects you then you automatically become this like lionized figure right yeah i'm very curious of where he goes after this because i don't like any of the stuff he said and i also am like i'm glad he's not going to be on the show but i some of the like crazy outrage where people were um just like the idea not going to be on the show. But some of the crazy outrage where people were just like,
Starting point is 00:26:46 the idea of canceling someone on the day they get a job and going back and looking at their tweets, I do feel like that's a crazy thing to do. It's like someone gets hired, let's look for something. So I do agree with comedians criticizing that. But I think there's a discernment. I think there's some comedians who are so afraid of, who haven't said anything wrong that just hear that.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And like, what if I get canceled? And it's like, you won't because you don't think those bad things. So those people who are freaking out end up sounding a little silly when they're defending him. But I do understand where they're coming from. Well, or at least that desire to immediately sort of find a reason to like disqualify someone from something. But I think at this point, the problem with him is he had a lot of momentum building up going into this in may he was using racial slurs to talk about andrew yang he this shit came from a year ago chris gethard like he was already on chris gethard's radar for using slurs and shit so it's funny because a lot of people already knew
Starting point is 00:27:41 oh yeah so in that way it's almost like it's not even that like they were waiting to cancel him it's like the second they showed up they're like you mean this dude who we all knew is a piece of shit yeah people in the comedy community i didn't know him at all but people from philly said like he was an asshole to begin with there was a he said something about like that i think is um uh interesting to hear because i've i've heard that like in uh certain comedy circles and i'm just like being in in LA, we're very sheltered. But he said Asian people are the only group you can still make fun of. And I've heard that from other people in less, whatever, woke areas. And there was a moment when I was like-
Starting point is 00:28:17 I would say civilized. Civilized. Yeah, there was a moment when I was in Improv 101 that I still remember. And I chalk it up to my teacher for this because he would do a lot of characters. And purposefully within improv, you can kind of like just have fun. He would purposefully do caricatures. And one time I went to his show and he came up to me. He's like, OK, I'm doing an Asian accent.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I just want to let you know he's white. And he's like, so I hope it's OK. And I was like, OK, whatever. And I watched and I was like so I hope it's okay and I was like okay whatever and I watched and I was like it's fine but it was a good moment for me because I realized he probably doesn't see very many Asian people in his audience and the fact that I was there and he knew me he had to think about it and I think that was the moment he was like I wonder if it is okay I don't know if it's okay but let me tell Teresa I felt okay because I know him and him talking to me made me feel good
Starting point is 00:29:04 and not alienated. But it did make me think probably from that moment on, he thought a little bit more about that. How would you feel now if someone said, hi, I'm going to do this just weird one-dimensional caricature of an Asian person who is not Asian? Well, most of the time it's not funny. So then I wouldn't find it very funny. But I do think people just aren't used to even having to be in the conversation with Asian people. Like they're used to recording these podcasts and then it's just their friends who hear it. So the fact that Asian people on Twitter can hear it and have an opinion, they're all of a sudden like, oh, well, calm down.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But they always didn't like it. They just didn't listen to his podcast. Yeah. I mean, either way, I can't find it was single excuse to like whether or not he knows asian people like just in general right i think as a society we have to be when people go what about fucking you know like what what would don rickles do and shit like that it's like yo they were making really fucked up jokes that i'm sorry society was just in a different place so it's not what would they do now they were they were coming from a time where we were less progressive and we understood the damage that jokes do
Starting point is 00:30:08 and how they subvert the ability of people to have any kind of upward mobility, socially, whatever, and that you reinforce these stereotypes that put people in categories and ones that should succeed and others should not. So, you know, miss me with all that shit because I think at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:30:26 the best kind of comedy is going to come out of not being like, look how different this shit is from us or whatever. This was all the way back in 2018, Miles. Exactly, right. No, when people do that, I'm like, and we talked about it when we first brought this up of just like, if you're really on your shit
Starting point is 00:30:40 as an artist, as a comedian, you can let go of this dumb shit that you grew up being like well self i grew up on south park and they did all this nasty shit i'm like yeah but there's a reason why this that is not the height of comedy right somebody and the shit that you look at that you can really admire as like an artist you're like this take this took actual thought and was an actual critique on something they observed rather than like oh i'm gonna do a character like that shit it makes my shit cringe.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Canceled, you're canceled. Yeah, I'm canceled. I'm half Japanese. And even myself, like I said, I used to think that shit was funny. Right. You know what I mean? In a way, because it made white people laugh. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:15 It wasn't because I was like, this is funny. I go, when I do this thing, they laugh. And I like that. Meanwhile, I'm being like, they think I'm cosigning this fucking racist bullshit right I feel like you're like in on the joke well and to clarify I don't agree that he should do these things I just thought it was interesting to hear that because I do think a lot of people think that and it was interesting
Starting point is 00:31:34 to like kind of break that open and be like well why do people think that I think it's just because they traditionally Asian people haven't been their audience so they haven't had to face the fact that it was never really that funny but they always thought it was because they just could work in their bubble yeah i just yeah uh it's like i said i'm glad to uh see you know him peace out yeah uh and for anybody else this is the deal if you do some shit that people are telling you is fucked up learn how to own that shit right
Starting point is 00:32:02 if you are not willing to grow, then you will be left behind. That's what cancellation is. Right. Because it's just going to keep moving. So do you want to, you want to move along? If you want to stay fixed, then we will progress without you and it will feel, it will feel cold out there because everybody's left and you're not willing to move along with everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:20 The first amendment doesn't give you the right to tell whatever joke you want on SNL. The First Amendment doesn't give you the right to tell whatever joke you want on SNL. And it also doesn't give you the right to not be judged by history, which, you know, like in historical. Yeah. There's still consequences. He also, I don't think, was making a joke in those clips that came out. I think he was just talking.
Starting point is 00:32:39 It's funny that comedians keep defending him. Like, you have to be able to make jokes. And he does make jokes like that. What was the punchline? Yeah. The podcast was just a conversation about how he felt. So I'm pretty sure that's not a joke. And then, yeah, when it's cold, it's actually the most deceptive food on earth. It's like, what is this?
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Starting point is 00:36:43 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. And finally, somebody who, you you know stands up for other cultures uh donald trump had a rally uh he's currently polling at about 25 approval among hispanic voters and he wanted to address that because that's crazy yeah i mean look he has a tough re-election bid in front of him maybe i don't know it depends on how you ask him.
Starting point is 00:37:25 The economy is doing so well. But he really needs to begin closing that gap because he can't win with his base. So he was in New Mexico doing the fucking his darndest, trying to court a group of voters who he so lovingly described as rapists, murderers. Right. It's hard for me to describe how masterfully he threaded the needle in addressing you know what it means to be white to be perceived as white to be perceived as hispanic um and just the the the elegance in which he tackled this i guess i just do want to
Starting point is 00:38:00 say i'm starting a clip of this rally where he's referring to this guy, Steve Cortez, who is a member of Trump's Hispanic Advisory Council. So he's using that to lead in of like, hey, I understand. I understand Hispanic. He happens to be Hispanic, but I've never quite figured it out because he looks more like a wasp than I do. So I haven't figured that one out. But I'll tell you what, there is nobody that loves this country more or Hispanic
Starting point is 00:38:30 more than Steve Cortez. Steve. Thank you, Steve. Not me, though. Not me. Nobody loves the Hispanics more. Not even me. What do you like more, the country or the Hispanics?
Starting point is 00:38:48 You got to choose one. He says the country. I don't know. I may have to go for the Hispanics, to be honest with you. We got a lot of Hispanics. We love our Hispanics. Get out and vote. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Is that for real? Wow. Yes. Wow. It really is. He hit it all. Yeah. He just like,
Starting point is 00:39:06 the first time he said, he just slipped in Hispanic. It didn't even make sense in the sentence. He was just like, and the, I don't remember what it was, but he just like, it felt like he was just wedged in there.
Starting point is 00:39:15 He loves the Hispanic. Yeah. The Hispanic. What? And he's, I'm going to gatekeep in terms of what I will believe someone how,
Starting point is 00:39:23 they can identify as Hispanic or not because he looks like a wasp. I haven't figured it out. What is there to figure out? Because I mean they're different on the inside. It's not a fucking Rubik's Cube. How could they look the same on the outside? That's wild. That is wacky.
Starting point is 00:39:37 They're just people. I don't understand. It's just a step like if Joe Biden's out here being like corn pop and his straight razor gang tried to fight me and I had a chain and then you got Trump being like I love the Hispanic. Right. And this I like also what was he doing like a dual loyalty trope
Starting point is 00:39:54 kind of thing of like what do you like more the country or Hispanic. Yeah. Right. What was that. I think it's I don't think it's the country I just think it's Hispanic. Right. He's like setting up this he's I feel like he's trying to play, obviously to Hispanic voters, but also to white people to be like, don't worry. It's like a little wink to like, don't worry.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I still, like he made that wasp joke to be like, but he looks white. And then that country thing to be like, don't worry. I know. I'm not going to give away our country to Hispanics. Don't worry. I can really tell the difference. And if he's around me he's gonna look waspy believe me
Starting point is 00:40:26 it's mind boggling because just it's him trying to speak good naturedly on the subject but it all of his rhetoric and just everything he says and believes rests on like such a foundation of just such
Starting point is 00:40:43 wrong headed assumptions like it's just everything bleeds through because he has no on such a foundation of just such wrong-headed assumptions that it's just everything bleeds through. Because he's not a good person deep down, so when he freestyle improvises, he goes in his wheelhouse and they're in shit in there. Right. It's like when Iggy Azalea tries to freestyle. Have you seen that video?
Starting point is 00:41:00 That's like Trump trying to be nice. Yeah. Oh, I haven't seen the Ig? That's like Trump. Ba, ba, ba, ra, ra, ra, ra, ra. It's like, huh? Trump trying to be nice. Yeah. Oh, I haven't seen the Xavier Zellweger video. You haven't seen that? It was like, yo, this is like a five-year-old video where she is going so hard on her freestyle. It's pure gibberish. It's so bad. And people are cheering.
Starting point is 00:41:19 So she's just saying syllables that sound like. Yes, yes. There are sounds, onomatopoeia, some words in English, others in languages we have yet to discover. But anyway, with this whole thing, I just look at him and I realize, you know, his whole thing is like, okay, we got to win Hispanics. Yeah. So all I'll just say is like, we love the Hispanics. And that's all I got. Because I only know, I know nothing culturally to connect with or anything aside from, I'll just say, I like this group.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Right. And this one dude. This one guy. I have this one friend. Who I thought was white. Yeah. Full disclosure. He starts it off by saying like, I don't even know what Hispanics are, but I love them.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah. Like at a meeting, he's like, and is Steve Kortz here? It's Kortez. Right. No way. Oh. C-O-r-t-e-s that's courts right it's cortez sir but you're white yeah i'm i'm not like oh touches his wallet yeah sure it's still there yeah he's like i gotta i haven't quite figured you out courts but uh carry on jesus christ yeah look uh this is i with this, I can't imagine him bringing in more Hispanic voters.
Starting point is 00:42:26 But again, internalized self-hatred is a very real thing. Yeah. Well, he's currently polling, according to FiveThirtyEight, 12 points underwater, 12 percentage points more disapproved than approve of him, which is somewhat reassuring. But Obama was eight points underwater at this point in his presidency so well but i guess then though too like this administration has forced people to basically say like yeah fuck it it's the racism right you know what i mean back in with obama it was like well obamacare they're gonna fucking death panel my grandma like right that was the those are the talking points right and there weren't the dog whistles only came in very other ways about the president but
Starting point is 00:43:11 they were the policies they were mostly going against policy even though they were motivated by i'm sure racial animus and things like that but now when you look at these policies that's i think forced people to pick a side here to be like you are you you you're really out here saying this is what you want? Right. Because if you are brave enough to do that, okay, well then put your MAGA hat on. If not, you might want to fade away into the shadows because you can't hide behind a fucking Gadsden flag anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I think, yeah, there's like a sliver of people in between the Obama approval and Trump approval and those are the people who are like openly or who weren't willing to admit to themselves what what their disapproval of Obama was about and look I get it you know I've read all the studies on people they're you know they're they fear the waning power of their culture and things like right but you know guess what man it's uncomfortable yeah I don't like it yeah well it's been uncomfortable for a lot of us too yeah Yeah. Welcome to Earth. All right. Well, let's talk about what does happen in the dream scenario that Trump actually loses the 2020 election. looking great for him at this moment it's at least as bleak as it's been at this point for a incumbent because george hw bush the last president to lose his re-election bid was still like insanely popular at this point it's just the economy started to hit the shitter uh towards the end of his first administration plus uh ross perot right r in fucked him up so like a couple people are starting
Starting point is 00:44:48 to talk about this thing that we've talked about before on this show that i think we need to be more aware of is that trump if he loses the election is not going to go without like it's not going to be a peaceful transfer of power like one way or another he's going to not he won't admit that he's lost like that's just something he's uh there's a slate article that just came out uh that interviews this sort of legal expert where he they say like he's temperamentally incapable of admitting that he lost something yeah so his followers he's going to you know ask them to do something do you think he has the power in terms of like not in his fan base but in the infrastructure of the white house to have like some sort of protest if that happens
Starting point is 00:45:40 because i've from based on the way people you know his administration has gone it seems like there's a lot of people who are like keeping their jobs and you know in with him but then like secretly kind of would be like we can't wait for this guy to get out who might just drop the facade as soon as he legally doesn't have power right but i'm curious like is there a real fear of like he's got people around him in power that could keep him there? So this guy who's sort of an expert on that subject says that the four main checks that we have, other than the Supreme Court, which can't really do anything to reinforce their position right now,
Starting point is 00:46:14 are the Electoral College, Congress, state governors, and then the Defense Department, which would have to kind of say fuck you to him eventually. I mean, if that ultimately what it comes down to. And if those are people that have to like those are the checks. And let's say there were a group of rebellious state governors. It's like now what are we doing? Like, where are we going at that point?
Starting point is 00:46:40 I feel like people believe in democracy on a fundamental level. Well, not everyone, but most a lot of people, even if they're conservative or have views that are feel to me very hateful, I think on a base level, believe in like the idea of democracy. And I feel like it'd be very hard to amass a critical group of like governors that would truly want to keep him there. I don't know yeah he's i mean he's already laying the foundations for not believing any of the truth-telling apparatuses in the country with like the fake news and fake media um he during the 2018 midterms uh he tweeted something about how he thought the russians were going to interfere in the 2018 midterms on Democrats' behalf, which nobody had ever even remotely suggested other than that tweet.
Starting point is 00:47:31 So he tries things out on Twitter. He tries out. But if he really tried it out, he would have tried to actually assert that that's what happened. Because once he took that L, he was just like, yeah, a lot of people should have kissed the ring. And that's what happened. Right. He's kind of throwing it out to see what lands. I mean, he was just like, yeah, a lot of people should have kissed the ring. Yeah. And that's what happened. Right. He's kind of throwing it out to see what lands. I mean, he's a classic narcissist.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Like, they'll throw things out. If something lands, then he'll keep going with that lie. If it doesn't, he'll just be like, I never said that. What are you talking about? Yeah. But I think, like, no president, in addition to no president running for re-election ever having been in like this bad a position. No president running for reelection has ever faced the possibility that they go to jail if they don't win. So like the stakes are high. And I think he's going to try whatever he possibly can to, and I mean,
Starting point is 00:48:16 Michael Cohen said he was like, he specifically, uh, and I, I believe everything Michael Cohen says, but, uh, he, he was like, you guys know that if Trump loses in 2020, there will not be. He won't go peacefully, I think were his exact words. Maybe he can, like, if it's like America's breaking up with Trump, maybe he'll go to Russia and run for president there. Because I do feel like he's doing that thing where, you know, he talks about Russia like it's the next girlfriend. Like they had a relationship and then he's like,
Starting point is 00:48:45 no, no, no, it's away. But then, like, they're still talking. Right. Something's happening there still. I feel like he's setting the groundwork to, like, just be like,
Starting point is 00:48:53 all right, well, this country's done with me. Where's another country that I could just hop into? But then that would force him to accept that the country's done with him. And I don't know if he can even
Starting point is 00:49:01 achieve that. I don't think he's capable. It's the whole thing is very odd to think about going into the future. Yeah. I think people's brains are just stopping at beating him because that's the thing that we weren't focused enough on in 2016. And they're like, well, yeah, that's a dream,
Starting point is 00:49:22 or that's something that a bridge will cross when we get to it. But I do think it's going to be a constitutional crisis that we're going to have to deal with if that happens. I think we have to be focused on like beating him, but not on him accepting defeat, because I don't think that he will ever like and not in like physically, but in the sense of like, I do think sometimes people want justice. We want to have that moment where he's like, all right, I lost. And I don't think we're ever going to get that with him. He's always going to find a way to spin it where he can't lose because he's a narcissist. But we can get to a point as a country where he's in his corner and it doesn't affect us anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And I think we have to let go of needing him to sort of give us that remorse. Because I just don't think he will ever. No, no. We don't need closure for but if the armed portion of the country are you know unwilling to accept the fact that he lost like you know the and fox news is unwilling to accept it or at least you know reporting that he's plausibly claiming that you know know The results of the election Are in question then You know that's how civil wars start How can we ghost him
Starting point is 00:50:30 As a country to get it through Like we don't say like the election results come in And just don't talk about it but we know what happened And like it's like that time You know when you're dating somebody And they do some shit and you start going And you go oh fuck we're done Like but You keep that hand close to your chest and they do some shit and you start going and you go, oh, fuck, we're done.
Starting point is 00:50:47 But you keep that hand close to your chest because you can't just be like, I'm sorry, did you just say you don't eat garlic? We're done. But now you're like, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And then try and figure out like, hey, are we hanging out? Oh, let me check. I'm busy, I'll get back to you. I think I left something at your house like, oh yeah, come to the White House, all your shits.
Starting point is 00:51:01 The response time. Yeah. We'll just start sleeping under the bed like my dog is doing right uh that's a subtle sign that you can put out there that things aren't going well in a relationship uh and let's check in real quick with milo yiannopoulos uh he is a you know a figurehead of the right-wing movement. Yeah, with a hilarious downfall. I mean, he started so strong.
Starting point is 00:51:27 He was like the Nazis' gay golden child, offering them all kinds of cover because Miles was like, well, I'm also part of a marginalized group, so I'm not really a Nazi, but read my takes and it's pretty clear where I'm at, wink, wink, wink. But things really started to change for him in 2017
Starting point is 00:51:46 because he got a book deal, but then a video came out of him, like, defending pedophiles. And so then he lost the book deal, which made him have to resign from Breitbart. And then his checks from the Mercers started drying up, and he got into all this debt. I feel like we talked about this hilarious debt he was in. I think it was with a Cartier or something over a ring he bought and then tried to return this debt. I feel like we talked about this hilarious debt he was in. I think it was with Cartier or
Starting point is 00:52:06 something over a ring he bought and then tried to return and then they're like, nah, returns fam. Anyway, he's in fucking millions. And he's in terrible debt too. As he should be. And then earlier this year, Australia was like, you're banned, fam. We don't fucking Like from the country? Like the biggest country.
Starting point is 00:52:22 Yeah, no, but it's still, I mean, shout out to them for being like they're being like nah you're good we don't need you here keep it moving though thank you very much sir so then he was
Starting point is 00:52:31 as he wandered you know the cursed wastelands of the internet he's just been desperate to get his his vibe back because he's also been kicked off nearly
Starting point is 00:52:39 every fucking social media platform too that he's on like telegram or something whatever the fuck that I think he's literally sending people telegrams or telegram or something whatever fuck that i think he's literally sending people telegrams or telegraphs whatever the fuck that is right yeah singing skywriting just outside right um and so he announced on his little telegraph telegram thing
Starting point is 00:52:56 he was like okay i found my fursona i'm a furry now hell yeah and i am a snow leopard um and here's this really cool rendering of me with my like fash wave haircut and trademark terrible glasses and i will be attending midwest fur fest uh which is a convention to celebrate the furry fandom and it's like in the like outskirts or to the suburbs of chicago but the people who are uh in this group were like, we absolutely, first of all, furries by and large, to my knowledge, are not down for fascist bullshit. So they're like, we are very, this is very disconcerting to think that this guy is going to come. We know what he's about, what the kind of shit he's going to pull. But it also brought up these memories of like another incident with furries and fascism creeping into the furry world. For people who don't know, those are people who like who have a persona.
Starting point is 00:53:52 They dress up, make themselves animals to like art or costumes, whatever. I'm sure you've seen it. Shout out to the furries. But it's more than just dressing up. They like it's part of their identity. Yeah, 100 percent. It's deep. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And so a big community exactly and i think for most people who are savvy on the internet you're pretty probably familiar with furries uh to the you know older listeners right people have just gotten out of prison uh you know you can take that explanation so the in 2017 there was this guy who called himself foxler um who like wore like black dress shirt red tie had a red armband but rather than a swastika it was a paw print and this person swears up and down it was like first of all i'm foxler i do not like nazis that photo of me doing the heil hitler that was a mistake and i think the the timing of the photo was all fucked up. My armband has nothing to do with Nazis. It's a reference to an old video game character.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And my name, Foxler, is in no way a combination of Fox and Hitler. My real last name is Miller. So that's why I got Foxler, even though I'm fucking fox whistling the shit out of this thing. And so it caused a uh uproar because he was like part of a group called the furry raiders who again they they said we are not political or whatever but it was clear uh where they stood on the political spectrum um but you know it's just it's interesting to see that like these communities even in this kind of community
Starting point is 00:55:20 they're having to like they're being like anti-fascist furries who are like, no, fuck that. Like these people aren't pulling up here. And the embarrassment continues for Milo Yiannopoulos. I wonder, so he like posted this publicly to be like, I'll be at this thing. Like, is there a world where he was trolling to try to get people to protest this convention? I mean, I think in some level he wants to probably find an outsider group, marginalized group to kind of make waves in or whatever so i don't know i i highly doubt that he had any interest or in like furry culture yeah
Starting point is 00:55:52 yeah he's just trying to target and then also maybe say like latch on to like oh furries have been discriminated against or something right right and then there you have groups like foxler and people like that and being like okay maybe they maybe they can catch this wave. I'm trying to get right out there and see maybe I can have a little bit of a takeover. Right. I think he was hoping that furries would accept him and identify with his idea that he feels like he is discriminated against. It's odd to me that after all this, after getting kicked off everything, that he didn't
Starting point is 00:56:25 consider the option of just like trying to be a better person. Like by this time he could have improved so much. Right. It's time to it's time to let the brand go my dude. Yeah. I think this is kind of a good object lesson of how to protect a community like that young people who are internet savvy are able to keep these sorts of pieces of shit out of their community and protect themselves. And when we come back, we'll talk about how the mainstream media is less savvy than the furry community. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
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Starting point is 00:58:48 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:59:34 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day,
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Starting point is 01:00:32 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry caitlyn clark versus angel reese on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and let's talk talk about how Sean Spicer has officially been normalized. You guys, he's a hoot. He's dressed like Cuban Pete from The Mask.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Doing the most painful. I mean, even in talking about this story, we're missing the point, right? That Sean Spicer has been allowed to reenter society, somehow completely forgiven for his sins for being the mouthpiece for this despicable administration. Right. And as actually currently the mouthpiece for a pro-Trump super PAC. Let's not forget, he never disconnected from that world. And now we're like, oh, yeah, let's dress him up.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Let's laugh. Let's try and forget about all this shit. Let's let him create his own narrative on TV where he was like i think a lot of people are gonna see a side of me they never saw it's like the only side i want to see is the back of your head when you get the fuck up out of here it's crazy i didn't even want to watch it because i knew like people would hate watch it but i watched it for the sake of this podcast but it is like clearly they know what they're doing they're just trying to get people to hate watch. And it's like at this time, like right before the election, all this is like very strategic for them to try to look at this all in fun. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Because for the right, the idea is like, oh, look, like, you know, people say things. But then they come back. How can you be a Nazi and wear a shirt like that? Right. How can you be racist and wear a shirt like that? How can you be hell bent on the destruction of marginalized people and wear a shirt like that and dance to spice up your life? The Nazis really like bold colors. I mean, yeah, we know what the original uniforms look like. They were fuchsia. So Hugo Boss was like, no, you're going to wear black and gray.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Who had to dance with him? She's like, I feel so bad for her. I forget what her name is. I mean, I don't know anything about her or her policies, but I feel bad for her. Well, right. name is. I mean, I don't know anything about her or her policies, but I feel bad for her. Well, right, because you are the person who is like the prop to stand next to this radioactive waste pile to be like, see, it's cool. It's dancer friendly. Yeah. The thirst that he, like I did watch his routine after this morning on a Twitter link that hopefully does not add to the ratings of the show um but he like after he completed the dance he like fell to his knees and like he had just like scored a super bowl winning touchdown and like looked to the heavens and put his arms out
Starting point is 01:03:20 and i i think it gets to the same idea we were talking about earlier that like as much as the right criticizes like mainstream monoculture like they are so desperate to be accepted by it right um and like all they need is a little crack and they're like oh thank you right oh give it to me he got into the end zone of you know holly weird acceptance or whatever the fuck he thought that shit because i mean they have kids like Donald Trump has kids. Ivanka is trying to keeps trying to. Melania has a beautiful son. Right. Melania does have a beautiful son.
Starting point is 01:03:53 And Ivanka is still trying to get him to, like, move in some more mainstream directions and failing to do so. failing to do so. And, you know, Sean Spicer, even like he was seen outside, like after the episode aired, uh, weeping in his car.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And people were like, yeah, I mean, that's about right. That's how I would respond to what just happened to you on TV. Um, and then he explained, like,
Starting point is 01:04:19 they were like, Oh wait, he's smiling. And he was like, yeah, I just was talking to my kids or watching a video of my kids, watching my dance routine. And, um, it's just this he was like yeah i just was talking to my kids or watching a video of my kids watching my dance routine and um it's just this glorious like moment for him where he gets a little bit of the a little bit of a some glow off of like this mainstream cultural institution
Starting point is 01:04:39 and you know i'm sure his kids were like oh thank god dad's normal again you know whatever the fuck this is i mean honestly milks Whatever the fuck this is. I mean, honestly, milkshake the fuck out of this dude if you ever see him. And I think really, if you look at his whole, I watch the routine because I like dancing. And I want to know what stars can dance. It was violence. That whole routine was fucking violence. And it was objectively horse shit.
Starting point is 01:05:07 It was the most rigid robotic fuck. It was very rigid and robotic, but that's rude to robots. And that's rude to robots. And rude to the Spice Girls. Yeah, exactly. Also,
Starting point is 01:05:18 you know, protect the Spice Girls. But again, so he got a fucking terrible score because objectively that was the worst shit ever. Yeah. But again, so he got a fucking terrible score because objectively that was the worst shit ever. Yeah. This motherfucker then goes into his bag and is now tweeting deleted this whole shit where he, again, made himself the victim as they do.
Starting point is 01:05:34 That's his playbook over there on the right. This is the tweet he deleted. Clearly the judges aren't going to be with me. Let's send the message to hashtag Hollywood that those of us who stand for hashtag Christ won't be discounted. What? May God bless you. Delete that shit, fam who stand for hashtag Christ won't be discounted. What? May God bless you. Delete that shit, fam. Hashtag Christ. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:05:49 He's trying to like spin it. I mean, I'm sure there are other dancers that are Christian. Like he's trying to make it all of a sudden like, oh, they didn't vote for me because I'm Christian.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah, it's part of the culture war and this is his way of weaponizing. And in a weird way, I mean, if you really want to read through the lines and think of what kind of dog whistles are in there, I'm like, someone's being
Starting point is 01:06:07 persecuted. A Christ follower is being persecuted by this other industry that I've also heard dog whistles about. Who runs that industry, Miles? Depends on what 4chan fucking board you're on. But yeah, again, this is just sort of, I think he deleted it because
Starting point is 01:06:23 everyone was like, this is not it. They're like, no, this ain't it, fam. And then he used a Mike Huckabee tweet to quote tweet and was like, Mike Huckabee was like, if you really want to freak out the people in Hollyweird, get behind Sean Spicer, blah, blah, blah. He's a good sport. Yeah. And then Sean's like, thank you so much, Mr. Huckabee.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I feel like it's crazy that Trump, it's not even the first term over and he's already like on TV, you know, like there should be some sort of rule. Like after you serve public office, you can't just like immediately be on one of the biggest reality shows. Yeah, I think. And again, fucking ABC, pull your fucking head out of your ass, please. This is the worst shit ever to put this dude on here. And I mean, among all the other terrible things, I mean, ABC is known for being a very diverse network, even beyond that. So I don't know what the fuck I'm expecting from them.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I wouldn't be so surprised if in 10 years we were doing the presidential run as a reality show in the White House. That's where everything is, basically. Just without real ad sponsors. It would be like with Chris Harrison coming out to give a vote. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:26 And we vote. Like they're like, if you want to vote for Hillary Clinton, text 954. Oh, this is how you do it. You tell Trump that he can, okay, this is what happens. That would actually be an improvement
Starting point is 01:07:37 because it would be more transparent and direct and you wouldn't be able to vote or suppress. We could do The Apprentice, but it's the president, but you still do the board meetings and you go you're hired or you're elected and then you get to say that and that's your new position but you don't get to decide you just get to say that shit and you get to shine i mean that wouldn't be if he if he gets re-elected like i wouldn't be surprised if he
Starting point is 01:08:00 pitched that idea like okay it's called the president the president well he went after um obama's netflix deal which leads me to believe he's trying to set up something right he's like mad that like oh obama's done with his job like he did his job you are like like trump is trying to be like oh wait well i want to be on tv oh i could do that i don't have to be in the president right right you don't even want to be the president wait what was the logic of that i saw that headline it's he it's this is a dumb thing I think he threw out there to be like, someone should investigate this. How is he doing this? This isn't allowed. Pretty sure it is.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Yeah, I don't even understand. It's just like, how are they making money? He's calling it out like he thought maybe he's treating Obama like he's still the president doing TV. Right. Yeah, I don't understand. He's still the president doing TV. Right. Yeah, I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:08:48 I guess he's saying like maybe that the president was using his power, that maybe perhaps Obama was negotiating the Netflix deal while he was in office. You think this motherfucker? For real. People were banging down the door because guess what? Obama's brand isn't toxic. And the best Trump's going to do is be on NRA TV or some shit. And also, every president up to this point has aged like it was fucking time lapse. He was working his ass off when he was in office, unlike you.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Other presidents did not have executive time to think about a movie they'd want to make. I feel like that is a scary thing. a movie they'd want to make. Yeah. Well, I feel like that is a scary thing, is to him, like, deals in Hollywood are just as important as things that are happening, like, in foreign policy. Because he's viewing that as, like,
Starting point is 01:09:32 a very important priority that he needs to talk about as the president, where it's like, you should just be focusing on, just, like, ignore all that. No, no. I need a Netflix deal. Yeah. Give me a deal on CISO. Now.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Quibi. Maybe that's what we could do. Give him a deal on CISO. Maybe that's what we could do. Give him a deal on CISO. Just be like, yo, there it is, homie. Trump streaming. Trump streaming platform. If you want to watch him, you got to buy in. Here, guess what? We're going to give you your own streaming platform.
Starting point is 01:09:56 It's called CISO. It'll be active the second you leave office. Check it out. SNL should just hire him to replace Shane. That would be better than having him as the president. I would take that. Oh, fuck yeah. We could just all not watch. Well, no, that would be better than having him as the president I would take that oh fuck yeah we could just all not watch it well I know that would be unfair for the other right numbers treat it we'd
Starting point is 01:10:09 treat it like the SNL episode where he hosted and just not watch the shit out of that all right let's talk about a bright spot pizza hut oh bless them poisoning us to...
Starting point is 01:10:25 Even though they're another hyper-conservative pizza outlet. At least they're poisoning us with pleasure. They have created the stuffed Cheez-It pizza. Now, what is it, you ask? To me, it looks like if you spilled the ooze from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on a box of Cheez-Its. That's what this thing is. They say you can eat it in about, they don't give the actual dimensions,
Starting point is 01:10:47 but they say it's a two to three bite item. Okay. In the picture, it looks like a Cheez-It, which I'm imagining is small. It looks like a throw pillow. In my mind, that's how big that is. You're thinking like... No, because that bucket of ketchup is like,
Starting point is 01:10:59 or whatever, marinara. But I need another thing for scale. I wish, again, we knew what the scale was, but what they're saying, it's a crust infused with the sharp cheddar flavor of Cheez-It and stuffed with either cheese or pepperoni and marinara dipping sauce. This is what I've been waiting for. From my purely stoned point of view, this must happen. I mean, I have to have it.
Starting point is 01:11:23 You know what? I'm going to try and order it so we can try it on the air or whatever you call this on the pod soon. Like you know how they have mozzarella sticks? They should make mozzarella pillows like throw pillows.
Starting point is 01:11:34 That's such a great idea. Oh yeah like those circular ones? Yeah just like a giant pillow for the group and everyone can just hold on to it and eat it from the side.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Oh whoa okay you went out okay you went out. Okay, you went there. You know, they have fish bowls. They should just make mozzarella pillows. You can't wait for the table.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I was thinking of a pillow, an actual fabric pillow that looks like a big ass mozzarella stick. Oh, no, I think it should be breaded and filled with cheese. Okay. I would, man, you know, but like 20 minutes into that thing when everyone's like saliva is on like their weird like rat bite part of the mozzarella stick. You'd be like, you know what? Maybe we should throw this thing out. You got to eat it Lady and the Tramp style without using your hands.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Four-way kiss. Yeah, like a gigantic corn cob. Everyone, roll your sleeves up. We're eating this gigantic breadstick. How do you eat corn? Huh? How do you eat corn on the cob? Pretty sure.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Why am I on trial, man? You know what I mean? I'm going to eat my corn how I need to, with a group. Now, I don't think this looks particularly good and I'm not a huge
Starting point is 01:12:32 Pizza Hut fan, but I do admire the fact that they actually fucked with the bread on this. They changed the crust into Cheez-It, whereas I was very disappointed
Starting point is 01:12:43 in the KFC Cheetos where the breading around the chicken did not turn into Cheeto. They just put a Cheeto sauce on it. That's bullshit. The last company that actually changed the bread portion of the thing, Doritos Locos Tacos. Preach. That is the best. Gospel. Church.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Tabernacle. Yeah. Let's see. I don't know. Well, will we try this? Dude, if we don't try it,
Starting point is 01:13:10 I will, I will, I'm sort of God. I'm going to eat this shit this weekend. Okay. Cause the thing is, you know, uh, health aside,
Starting point is 01:13:16 politics aside, dignity aside, I love Cheez-Its. I remember as a child, my love for Cheez-Its was undying. And I went through a point where I ate so many Cheez-Its, I couldn't eat them anymore. But now the time has passed. I'm remembering my past love.
Starting point is 01:13:31 I'm seeing it. The glow up happened with an ex. And I'm like, you know what? Let's make another mistake. I thought you were going to say it was like topped with Cheez-Its. And I was like, that's an interesting choice. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:43 But I think, you know, this could be the beginning of a very great partnership with Kellogg. Although that would be worth trying. Just order a pizza and then top it with Cheez-Its. I don't know. Do you like crunchy topping on a pizza like that? Sometimes. There's a crunchy
Starting point is 01:13:59 pepperonis. Yeah. Okay. Well we'll have to do I think a number of tests with Cheez-Its and pizzas and figure out what the best version is. Would a Cheez-It melt if you heated it up? No. It's a straight up cracker. Just a cracker. That shit will turn to ash.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And then just... Sizzle and fly away. Cheez-It is very innovative. They have the well-done Cheez-Its that you can get. That's like the box full of the well-done. They got well-dones? Yeah. Don't they?
Starting point is 01:14:26 I don't know. I have not bought a Cheez-It since Sophie Lichterman has shuttled them into the office. Yeah. So they're certain, like every once in a while you'll get one in the box that's like a little bit browned. It's been a little extra time. Who's their father? And somebody found out that people were fucking with those,
Starting point is 01:14:48 and they just were like, nothing but the well-dones. Yeah. So Cheez-Its out here, they're willing to take risks. Respect to brands who know that weird one-off things in their box are like, what if we just did a whole thing of those? It's all of that. Yeah. It's called understanding our consumer base.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Let's talk real quick about the new streaming platform, but basically it's another channel that we have to pay $12 for or whatever. NBC has announced their new streaming service called Peacock. Ah! Peacock. And great Peacock impression. What does the peacock sound like? Probably like, ah!
Starting point is 01:15:25 Sounds about right. I feel like they scream. But it will debut in 2020. And they got the Sklooses. Oh, hold on. Just really quick. This is what a peacock sounds like. Oh!
Starting point is 01:15:38 Oh, you fucking nailed it! I nailed it! And then your sound. I mean, that was scarily good. Thank you. I'm the new Michael Winslow from Police Academy, but I only do three accents and a peacock. You only do sounds that people can't identify?
Starting point is 01:15:58 They're like, oh. Peacock, you idiot. Is that what they sound like? Whoa. Winslow.. Winslow. Michael Winslow. Oh, man. Police Academy, huh?
Starting point is 01:16:09 I'm 35. Is this why they put The Office out on Netflix and then took it away? To get a new generation excited? I didn't realize they had to pay money to get that shit back. And that isn't even them, is it? No, I think The Office is going to be on this streaming platform. It is. Oh, it is?
Starting point is 01:16:25 But NBCUniversal had to pay $500 million to regain the rights. Whoa! But I mean, the numbers don't lie with that one. Oh, yeah. Because I have friends who didn't watch it when it came out. And this last time when it came out on Netflix, we're like, oh, I just started watching The Office. The show's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:16:41 It's getting new fans. Right. Interesting. But yeah, they got Brooklyn Nine-Nine, Parks and Rec, Cheers, Down Abbey, Everybody Loves Raymond, Friday Night Lights, Frasier. Well, they don't have Seinfeld. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:16:56 And they also have, they're reviving Battlestar Galactica with Sam Esmail from Mr. Robot. Damn. And, and, brace yourself. I'm very excited about this. Saved by the Mr. Robot. Damn. And, and, brace yourself. I'm very excited about this. Saved by the bell. With. With. Reimagined by the 30 Rock writer and great news creator.
Starting point is 01:17:13 What's her name? Tracy Wigfield. Wigfield? Felt, yes. Felt, yeah. Is it Wigfeld or Wigfield? Let's do it right. Great news, underrated in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:17:22 That show is fucking really good. Yeah. And it took a lot of people saying passively, like, you should check that. It's pretty funny. Yeah. The jokes are dense. The humor, it's dense. It's like Dirty Rock.
Starting point is 01:17:31 It's very Dirty Rock-ish. But if you're wondering the Saved by the Bell thing, the reboot, is A.C. Slater signed in? Correct. Mario Lopez is locked in. Is Jesse Spano, Elizabeth Berkley, locked in? Yes, she is. Is Mark Paul Gosselaar noted Asian
Starting point is 01:17:49 locked in? No. Wait, what? No, I thought he was playing. Well, this is the problem. Okay, so he's on Mixed-ish, I think, which is on ABC, so I don't think he can't be on another motherfucking network right now. No. No, I mean, if you're on a network show, I doubt they're going to be like yeah and then you can do
Starting point is 01:18:05 An NBC universal thing But we don't know the points of that deal So But based on everything that's being written Zach Morris features in this Whole thing so to To fuck around So this is what it is
Starting point is 01:18:19 Per a press release confirming the revival Which has been rumored for more than a year The new show imagines a world where Zach is now governor of California, but he's in political trouble for closing too many low-income high schools. Wait, what the fuck? I knew his
Starting point is 01:18:35 fucking blonde-haired ass was fucking against him. Anyway, to fix his political problem, Governor Morris decides to send the affected students to the highest-performing schools in the state, including Bayside High. The influx of new students gives the overprivileged Bayside kids a much needed and hilarious dose of reality. Wait a second.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I don't like this. I don't like it. It's totally just like we just taking his name and being like, let's make another show. Right. Nothing to do with. Right. That has just that's reverse dangerous minds. Right. it's like
Starting point is 01:19:05 because what i mean i'm thinking like i felt like bayside high was just like a very like they try to make it very like sort of any town kind of i didn't feel like it was meant to be like the rich kids school there were rich kids there and then there weren't i didn't well season one was like that that took place in indiana and it was just a normal school, but then it got richer and richer and more like 80s fantasy land as it went. But yeah, I mean, I feel like Zach was rich, right? Yeah, but it never felt like it was like, oh, we're the... Well, the way they're playing it now, I feel like it's like Gossip Girl. Like, oh, the poor kids are going to St. A's or whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Right. Which that wasn't the vibe I got from St. Ty. No, no. I mean. I thought it would be a much more woke tale where Zack Morris becomes a social justice warrior. Right. Governing from Sacramento. I don't need him to be the governor of California.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Like, be the mayor of Bayside. What do you think? In my mind, I don't even really think I I bothered to think where Zach Morris would end up. Well, I mean, he has one of the most underrated superpowers in the history of fiction. So like he, wherever the fuck he wants to end up.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah. In my mind, he's like a criminal mastermind. Right. So would he be using his powers to get into office? That's what I was hoping. He should be investigated. He should be exploring
Starting point is 01:20:25 the studio space. And we launch another show, a satirical take on this show where we investigate the reality of this and to understand how did Zack Morris rise to power so quickly?
Starting point is 01:20:33 The presidency would be the only place he could blend in because he ages so much faster than everybody because he's the only one aging while he calls a time out. So time works differently. So he should be the president,
Starting point is 01:20:45 actually. Wow. Damn. And one other thing about streaming wars. That would be funny if he was like 65 when the show and everybody else is just their normal age. They're like, oh no, Zach's really sick. Zach must be using meth, man. What the fuck? It's terrible.
Starting point is 01:21:02 One other thing I wanted to point out. What the fuck? It's terrible. One other thing I wanted to point out, the rights to Big Bang Theory have gone to HBO Max for a stunning total of $600 million. Wow. That seems like such a weird fit, but then they're probably all just thinking about,
Starting point is 01:21:16 we all want to be Netflix. We all want to be the only one that matters, so they're trying to just cover everything. HBO has prestige, but they also are going lowbrow, like Big Bang Theory. Do they have a big international audience? I wouldn't think so. I think Big Bang Theory might. No, but I mean HBO, because maybe they're trying to market internationally.
Starting point is 01:21:35 I don't know. Does Big Bang Theory have a big international audience? I feel like sitcoms tend to have more people who are watching to understand what America is. They'll be like, oh, I like that show Big Bang Theory and I definitely saw it in Japan like dubbed and I was like
Starting point is 01:21:48 it's a no for me dog I know how I met your mother who had a big audience in France right right you know everyone needs their
Starting point is 01:21:56 big show horse to put front and center and be like you know this show you're addicted to well you can only get that shit here and I guess they're
Starting point is 01:22:02 betting big on the bang theory i don't know i don't watch the show never seen an episode my parents love that shit though so am i completely out of touch do young people like that show i'm sure people because it's like it's like science adjacent too right aren't they like all fucking like theoretical particle physicists or some shit i don't watch it. I don't know anyone who does, but I don't particularly think
Starting point is 01:22:28 it's like necessarily an old audience. I think it's just whoever watches those kinds of sitcoms would watch it. I guess in my mind because I'm like,
Starting point is 01:22:33 yo, I ain't watching no fucking multicam sitcom shit. I feel like I watched multicams when I was a kid, so maybe very young people sitting at home watch it and older people. And I'm sure,
Starting point is 01:22:42 you know, like Zyte Gang, if you're fucking Bazinga or whatever the fuck that shit is, Bazinga fans, let me know. Is it tight or do you just not like yourself?
Starting point is 01:22:52 My mom loves Sheldon. Does she? Young Sheldon? What about young Sheldon? Thank you. No, that's what I asked and she was like, what's that one's name?
Starting point is 01:23:00 He's so funny, the way he acts. Wow. What does your dad think? Does your dad fuck with Big Bang Theory bang theory i think so and is he a sheldon guy or is he uh answer that but they probably i'm assuming they watch watch it together so right i don't think my mom's like quietly binging big bang theory off in the corner she's like uh yeah just my watching. My guilty pleasure. Yep. I feel like when I hear like laugh tracks and like that sort of multicam soundtrack, I'm like brought back to like, oh, I'm in one room watching TV and my mom's like cooking rice in the other room.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Right. So it does make me feel like a homie vibe. Like I don't sit down and catch up on my own now on any multicams, but I could see the appeal of being like a kid and like watching it while you're like waiting for dinner or something. Yeah. There's nostalgia. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:23:47 Yeah. I think that's why also I'm still a trash human being who watches Fuller House. Yeah. And for that exact reason. So I can time travel and be like the theme song, the kind of same faces. Plus it helps you know when to laugh, which is useful. Yeah. Because I don't know.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah. We are famously known to not know when to laugh, which is useful. Yeah. Because I don't know. Yeah. We are famously known to not know when to laugh. Actually, DJ Daniel has an applause sign that he lights up on the studio when we're supposed to laugh. Like right now. Yeah, I do that for all my comedy shows. I always have a laugh track. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Yep. Or just go, please laugh. That's Jeb, right? Jeb. Yep. Jebby. Jebby. Well, shit, Teresa, it's been a pleasure having you.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Thanks for having me. This was so so fun where can people find you and follow you I'm on Twitter and Instagram at Larissa T she's a great follow yeah I have a podcast called you can tell me anything so follow that listen to that yeah check it out is there a tweet you've been enjoying there is it's
Starting point is 01:24:42 really really stupid but it made me laugh out loud so I picked it. Where did it go? It was shared as a retweet, so I don't know this user, but at Captain Calvis just said, you're telling me a banana nutted in this muffin? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 It made me laugh out loud. That is very funny. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and instagram at miles of gray a couple tweets i like uh one is someone in the comments of rob schneider's shane gillis defense said look guys adam sandler's shadow has an opinion oh shit that was from parisian rebel at parisian rebel uh another one from peter taggart at peter taggart snl must return to the hiring model that first made the show a success busing talent in from canada giving them cocaine and having them all fuck each other agreed hard agree uh and finally from dana donnelly at dana Dana Don Lee. I am allowed to ghost guys because I have a therapist who told me to prioritize my own mental health.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Guys are not allowed to ghost me because none of them have therapists. Yeah. She's funny. She is really funny. Zachary Cohen tweeted, Hook told staffers that the Saudis view this attack as their 9-11, two sources said. And Cody Johnson tweeted, wasn't their 9-11 9-11? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:10 And Miles Gray, some dude named at Miles of Gray just tweeted a side-by-side picture of Joe Biden and Fire Marshal Bill, and it's uncanny. That is fucking wild. I wish it didn't ruin one of my favorite In Living Color characters.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Yeah. I mean, again, another show, too, where I'm sure a lot of those people looking back at their old show have been like, I don't know if a lot of this comedy is good now. Yeah, yeah. But see, I don't think, I'm surprised you don't see many people. Anyway, it's funny. I always think about how like when you watch old and living color sketches
Starting point is 01:26:46 too any old comedy shit like when you realize like damn we had to grow a lot yeah to be like this is no longer shit
Starting point is 01:26:53 that's banging anymore yeah we all evolve yeah apparently something about Mary is not as good as I remembered it
Starting point is 01:27:00 people were like oh you should listen to the Bechdel cast on that that's a super problematic movie, so I will do that. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore
Starting point is 01:27:09 O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Miles, what's that going to be today? This, I think we're going to hear a few songs from this group in the coming weeks. But this is a group called Bakao Rhythm and Steel Band. And look, what they do is they make it sound like you just got off a cruise ship, but they're playing the most lit music on their steel drums. It's a whole band, but they do a lot of covers with steel drums. Let's just get Gangster off the top of them. They do all kinds of covers, but in particular, there's a cover of All for the Cash, which is one of my favorite Gangstar songs, produced by DJ Premier.
Starting point is 01:28:03 This is a steel drum version. by DJ Premier. And this is a steel drum version. And if a song about trying to set up a drug dealer and it all going wrong and people getting killed could be a fun, upbeat steel band, steel drum song, then I think they've found something. Picture your mom with a lei around her shoulder
Starting point is 01:28:19 shimmying her shoulders to it. And then, you know, like a bunch of children with their problematic vacation braids. Right. But anyway, so this is All for the Cash by the Bacow Rhythm and Steel. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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