The Daily Zeitgeist - Haunted Houses EXPOSED, Five Knife At Freddy? 10.27.23

Episode Date: October 27, 2023

In episode 1572, Jack and Miles are joined by New York Times Bestselling author of Raw Dog, Jamie Loftus, to discuss… Critics Hate Five Nights At Freddy’s... The Video Game Movie Written By A MAGA... Republican, Michelle Williams Reading Britney Spears Memoir Is Going Viral and more! Critics Hate Five Nights At Freddy’s Five Nights At Freddy’s Rotten Tomatoes Score Debuts With Decisive Splat Five Nights At Freddy’s Creator Scott Cawthon Retires Amid Controversy Scott Cawthon Trump: Scott Cawthon Controversy Explained Michelle Williams Reading Britney Spears Memoir Is Going Viral Michelle Williams’s Role of a Lifetime (Britney’s Audiobook) Britney Spears Audiobook Should Earn Michelle Williams a Grammy, Fans Say: ‘This Is How You Get the EGOT’ WATCH: Puddles & Wishing Wells Music Video featuring Henry Winkler! LISTEN: Over and Over by The AltonsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:37 We're the production of iHeartRadio. Ooh. Who is that? I don't know. Ooh. This? Why this? This This? Why this? This here?
Starting point is 00:01:48 Why this? Oh, this? And in this economy? Why this? Why this? This here is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American consciousness. I just got it at a secondhand store. It's very comfortable.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Anyways, it's Friday, october 27th 2023 a banger of days national civics day shout out to everybody who has no idea how the government or anything works uh national black cat day shout out to all the owners of black cats myself included and our very illustrious guests as well uh national frankstein Friday. Don't know what that is. It's also National Breadstick Day. So, you know, holler at your stick bread. And National American Beer Day. Frankenstein Friday,
Starting point is 00:02:33 the day that the events depicted in the Monster Mesh actually, like, historically took place, maybe? Canonically. Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, it's always the Friday before or the last Friday in October for whatever reason. I had labor questions
Starting point is 00:02:50 about the opening of Monster Mash this year where it's like, is he compensated for working in the lab late one night? Late one night. Is he self-employed? Right. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:00 That's a great question. I know that the guy who wrote that song, he had like a daughter who he tried to like launch a nepo baby pop star career with and it was like it was a music video my friend made the music video and it's her and henry winkler and it was like all about like there's a bunch of horses and anyway wait what god yeah the monster you can't move on from that halfway through the sentence there were a bunch of horses. There's like the opening scene of the video is like the main, you know, the lyricist, the singer.
Starting point is 00:03:37 She's like at a like she's at a horse stable and like Henry Winkler comes out all like perplexed. He's like, honey, we got to get the horses. Moon Shadow hasn't been fed. And it's like this weird very poorly acted opening and then like there's a music video from the like what year was this take this was like 2005 okay so it was like a belated launch it was like all right now that this song has officially made it and everybody is like wondering what day in history it happened on for instance maybe we can launch this into something now does that are we to believe that it's it's possible that henry winkler owed boris bobby
Starting point is 00:04:14 pickett a favor and if so what could it have been down there does boris bobby pickett know something about henry winkler that would lead him to have like to have to be in this because if it's mid-2000s henry winkler like he's back he was the dad in holes it's like it's like pre-arrested development post holes yeah yeah yeah it was like it was kind of an in-between you know it was a bit of a lean period i think it was right before he like we fully re-embraced henry but anyway wow so he was just like yeah hell yeah fuck it i'll do it yeah moon shadow is hungry fine i can i can i'll kill that line anyways uh what what a what a story to kick us off with i'm telling you if i find the video it'll be in the footnotes. Trust me.
Starting point is 00:05:06 On this Frankenstein Friday. Is that what it is? Frankenstein Friday? So is it? I want it. It must be the last Friday before October 3rd. Last Friday of October. Frankenstein Friday.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Frankenstein Friday. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien. I forget where I am. Just generally. A.K.A. Wood Rice. It spilled on my pants while I was where I am. Just generally. A.K.A. Wood or Ice. It spilled on my pants while I was on the ride. Wood or Ice.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I swear it's not piss. It's just Wood or Ice. That is courtesy of First Blood 522. We can't move on from this, can we? A.K.A. Writers. We're still on the fact that i ghost pissed my pants on a child's ride that was very scary i was not brought up to speed on that but oh you didn't read your
Starting point is 00:05:53 daily briefing your jamie lost his daily briefing yeah the presidential daily briefing i don't feel i feel like i know and i and if i don't know how i'm thinking of it is is better yeah yeah yeah and i just blame my wet shorts on uh yeah on the wood on a ghost by the way ghosts huh it's a good thing abba we're not from philly i guess because waterloo does not waterloo yeah if it's wood or lou anyways i'm thrilled to be joined as always by, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Oh, kiss me beneath my LASIK eyesight.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Teach me to keep my eyelids closed. Leave yours open and look at me stare and meet my wide-eyed glance. Eyeballs now touching. So kiss me. Shout out to Salvador Jolly on the discord. Yes. You know, Durante was on earlier and was talking about how, you know, having some kiss chemistry issues with dates and just say, you know what? We probably can't go on any more dates because the chemistry is off.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And I, you know, she's talking about being honest with people. And I had to say shout out to my high school girlfriend who said, stop keeping your eyes open when we make out. go on any more dates because the chemistry is off. She's talking about being honest with people. I had to say, shout out to my high school girlfriend who said, stop keeping your eyes open when we make out. You need to hear those lessons. Shout out to you for making that an AK. Wide open. With eyes wide open. There's another AK for someone to make.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I like the added lore from this song that you were doing that because you were trying to kiss eyeballs with the person. You were trying to touch open eyeballs with them, which is very, very intimate. Painful. Also painful and not very sexy. I found it helpful to have to articulate. If someone asks you, like they're the back of an 18-wheeler, how am I doing? Dial this number. ask you like like they're the back of an 18 wheeler how am i doing yeah and and and i and i usually i'm like great but then every once in a while i'm like how are they doing and and and the
Starting point is 00:07:56 this was in like the last year where it was like i don't know how you're getting your tongue to be flat, but that's not necessary. Oh, someone making their tongue flat, like wide and flat, like it had suddenly experienced, you know, like it was like 30 feet, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:15 subterranean. It was just flattened. It was really interesting. Yeah. So, so I feel I also improved at giving feedback. Yeah. Yeah. And your feedback I also improved at giving feedback. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And your feedback was, just to clarify here, don't have such a flat tongue. Your tongue is fucking weird. Keep that shit to yourself, homie. First of all, you're being disgusting. This whole thing, this whole act is ruined. This is making me sick. Yeah. This whole thing, this whole act is making me sick. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zytmore, one of our favorite guests, one of your favorite guests, Emmy-nominated writer,
Starting point is 00:08:58 artist, comedian, behind many of the most acclaimed podcasts like Act Atcast, Ghost Church, Bechdelcast. She is the New York Times bestselling author of the New York Times bestselling book, Raw Dog. Raw Dog. Please welcome the New York Times bestselling author, Jamie Loveday! Jamie! AKA Mrs. Joey Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire
Starting point is 00:09:23 at Santa University. Oh, you know who's going to be making a little appearance this year in Santa University. That's from at zombiezamboni13. Like, as if I could. Just when you think it couldn't get better. Loftus fan account. Just when you think it couldn't get better yeah just when you think it couldn't get better oh that that really i'm so happy to be back we're so happy to have you it's it's funny too like
Starting point is 00:09:52 there's so many you know this get this show is merely a stepping stone and a place people pass through onto greater things and for many people that become as successful as you a lot of times listeners like oh shit it's beef huh. Jamie hasn't been on the show. And I'm like, no. Jamie is doing quite well in promoting a New York Times bestseller. So, yeah, you know, there's other things happening. And, I mean, not to mention the beef. Yeah, well, the beef is ugly and we don't talk about it.
Starting point is 00:10:22 But we put aside our differences. Well, absolutely. And, you know, we begged you. Yeah, we begged you to come back because we don't talk about it. The beef is, but we put aside our differences. Well, absolutely. And, you know, we begged you. Yeah, we begged you to come back because we're like, help us. We'll do anything. He's so mad at us. Congratulations. I think this is the first time you've been back since becoming a New York Times bestselling author.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I believe so, yeah. Thank you for saying it so many times. It's dope. It's the dopest thing to say about anybody that you know. You're like, oh, yeah, New York Times bestselling author. Obviously, Jamie Loftus. Thanks's dope. It's the dopest thing to say about anybody that you know. Obviously, Jamie Loftus. Thanks, Scott. It's been all over the place. That was a high.
Starting point is 00:10:54 That was a good one. Good. We're very happy for you, proud of you, and excited to have you back on the Daily Zeitgeist. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. couple of things we're talking about uh five night five night at freddy five oh no jack have you guys heard about this five night at freddy is this right you're telling me at They're spending five nights at Freddy's?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Five nights at Freddy's. Are you guys watching Five Night Freddy's? Honestly, I'm so stoked for Five Night at Freddy's. I got a text being like, Killers of the Flower Moon this weekend, Queen? And it's like, well, it's more of a Five Night at Freddy's weekend for me. Kill You the Flower Moon, that's a November project. But I have to, you know, see is October.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I already saw Saw X. I got to see Five Night at Freddy's. I got to see that fifth night. I'm hanging in for that fifth night. Wow. That's right. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:59 The reviews are in and they are bad. They hate it. I had a friend, I have tried not to learn what Five Nights at Freddy is. Five Nights at Freddy, yeah. Five Nights at Freddy. I had a friend be like, it's the latest Nightmare
Starting point is 00:12:15 on Elm Street movie, right? Freddy's thing? No. Even I know that's not correct. But now that you're saying Five Nights at Freddy, I mean, who's the guy with Five Knife on his hand? It's actually Five Knife Ready. Right. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:12:34 All of that. Plenty more. But first, Jamie, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay. Something from your search history. Okay. So something from my search history is a guy I'm just completely enamored with. Move over, Joey Chestnut.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Monty Revolta is who has been on my mind. Have either of you heard of Monty Revolta? No. I was really desperately trying to write a last minute Halloween profile of Monty Revolta, but he tragically does not seem to know how to use the internet very well but like i okay so i forget if we ever talked about this on tdz but i worked at a uh a haunt at the haunted hayride last year in griffith park yeah yeah right yeah it and it was a very you know meaningful experience to me. I have a lot to say about it today. And I went back because the one thing that I didn't get to do while I was at the Hayride,
Starting point is 00:13:32 in addition to being treated like a person, was I never got to see the main stage huge show, which is this undead lounge singer named Monty Rivolta. Oh, wow. He is the star of the Hayride. I never even knew what he looked like until I looked him up because he's kind of, I'm not going to say he's a diva because I don't know what he's like, but he didn't fraternize with the other scare actors. He wasn't around.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Monty's scare actors. God, I'm learning so much just ambiently try to keep up with these industry terms like tossing strays to the sides that i'm like they're called scare actors they're called scare or scare actors uh at at universal halloween horror nights yeah well that that's some high-rent stuff we couldn't afford that kind of that kind of vocabulary. But yeah, that's like every, every, uh,
Starting point is 00:14:27 scare actor would, you know, you wouldn't see Monty's band and Monty's band would kind of like, not, well, at least one of them was like kind of swinging, swinging his dick around about his proximity to Monty. And there were some really,
Starting point is 00:14:41 uh, but, but I never got to meet Monty. I never had to see him perform. Then I went back this week cause I just had to know what changed since last year. It's like visiting. I have no love for my college. I would never return.
Starting point is 00:14:55 But I will go back to the Hayride every year as if I graduated from there. A reunion. Yeah, you got to. The 2022 reunion. And Monty, unbelievable. I couldn't stop smiling. 2022 reunion. And Monty, unbelievable. Like I was, I couldn't stop smiling. My friend took a picture of what I looked like looking at Monty.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And it was like, he's so literal stars and hearts in your eyes. He's funny. He comes out of a coffin in the beginning. He's got little jokes. He's physically huge. He's like nine feet tall.'s every oh it was he he closed the set on i will always love you oh and at one point adjusted the lyrics to i will always
Starting point is 00:15:36 love ghoul and i it really hit for me i love monte revolta i love his website his website is so dude this website is legendary it is good it is so good monty revolta and his band of the living dead it was made in you know on angel fire look at his clients he's working with everybody who's doing a freaky fucking thing in the south lane oh he doesn't give a shit i mean well he and he also he the hearse and reptile show you know monty revolta is in his undead band are gonna be there right i'm like the winch the winchester mystery house oh yeah oh yeah they've been at the winch i love the cbgbs for like uh haunted novelty bands right he played the winch i just like i think he's so cool and i i kind of love that he is sharing his beautiful art i cannot figure out what his government name is to save my
Starting point is 00:16:33 fucking life i just love what a mystery he is i'm seeing that somebody i've seen blake johnson played monte revolta in monte revolta acting dead 2016 I've seen yeah I've seen Blake Johnson and I you know it could be true I just it doesn't fit his vibe whatsoever interesting right this this nine foot man singing I will always love ghoul I'm like that can't be a guy named Blake Johnson I'd lose it I don't understand I I don't know I don't know. I've been trying to figure him out. I was like, maybe I could shadow him for a night, but he just crickets, crickets, wants nothing to do with me. Blaine Denson, maybe, but Blake Johnson? Come on. I wonder if he's changed because I wonder how much crossover there is between this and like hot dog eating. Because there's a guy who I would now consider not a friend, but like a heightened acquaintance. This guy, Crazy Legs Conti, who that is like now his government name.
Starting point is 00:17:38 He had it changed. And like maybe Monty Rivolta just was like, this is my life. I'm making this. Oh, and he has dreadlocks. Monty Rivolta does was like, this is my life. I'm making this. Oh, and he has dreadlocks. Monty Rivolta does or Crazy Legs? Crazy Legs most certainly does. Love those dreadlocks. Also, like a really, like really, really tall, physically imposing person has a huge Marx Brothers collection.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Interesting guy. I feel like you have a type, Jamie. Really tall. Not a real human. In reality, I date men who are tiny and hate me. This guy went to Johns Hopkins, Jamie? Yeah. Super smart.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Lived in LA for a while. Really, really a fascinating man. I went to the after party, like hot dog eating after party and and like was chatting with him for a while and i was like how how people are amazing i have hope for humanity because you know you this is possible yeah you could look like an adam derwitz like impersonator wear a fedora, and just crush the competitive eating scene. I love it. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:18:47 He spoke at my New York book release show and was telling this story that I was like, what are you talking about? You're scaring everybody. Like your new friend that gets invited to the wedding and gives a four-hour speech. I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:03 this is a crowd militant feminist. But he was telling a story about... He was really cool. He was like, yeah, I was getting ready for this mayonnaise eating contest. I was doing it at this girl's house because you don't want to be eating mayonnaise at your house.
Starting point is 00:19:18 But you do want to be eating it at a girl's house? He's like... I was like, why would you eat it at your girlfriend's house? He's like, eating at me and Crazy Legs. Right. So I was like, why would you eat it at your girlfriend's house? He's like, well,
Starting point is 00:19:27 she wasn't my girlfriend. It was casual. I was like, what? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:19:33 I don't put, you know Crazy Legs doesn't put labels on things. It's serious. That's called a mayonnaise side piece. That's right. I dip over to her place and just eat handfuls of mayo.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Life is beautiful. I love, So I've been ever since you said Monty Rivolta, I've been trying to figure out what that is. So he's a lounge act, like a lounge singer who is themed, Halloween
Starting point is 00:19:59 themed. Am I stupid? Is there an obvious reference there? Is Monty Rivolta referencing something not that i can tell i forget like i i went with somebody and he had like all these ideas he had all these pitches for what it could be a reference to he was like Volta? Like, that would be weird. If he was trying to reference Mars Volta. Indie rock act, Mars Volta from the early 2000s? That would be very Blake Johnson to do. That sounds like a Blake Johnson.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, Blake Johnson would totally be into that. Was a huge Mars Volta guy. I can't figure out what it is. I also can't really tell how long he's been doing it, but I do know that he plays weddings, and that is really lighting a fire under my ass to consider that. To get married. Before he gets too huge and I can't get him for weddings anymore. Because the band of the living dead would suggest that his wordplay is fairly straightforward, but Monty Rivolta, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Rivolta is the closest thing i can yeah i'm thinking but like monty trivels like johnny trivolta monty revolta i'll ask him if he ever answers my fucking email you know i'm gonna hear from him on november fit like it is like talking to it it does remind me of, come July 12th, Joey Chestnut, he's left everyone's mind temporarily, and then you can get him on the horn. Right. But, you know, June, forget it. July 4th, don't even try. It's like trying to get on the phone with my accountant during tax season.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Swish. Thank you. From way downtown. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and keep talking to Jamie Loftus. We'll be right back. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and i'm so excited about my new podcast rebel spirit where i head back to my hometown in kentucky and try to convince my high school to change
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Starting point is 00:25:13 And we're back! Andie is back on the show and we are about to ask you what is something you think is overrated so this it does kind of dovetail with the uh with the haunted hayride discussion hyper specific conglomerates because no one i know worked at the haunted hayride this year because of this like there is a haunted hayride and haunted attraction specific conglomerate which acquired the los angeles haunted hayride and like kind of i don't know not to sound like gen x about it but like they sold out and now it's fucking corporate. It's sponsored by Hulu. There's all this shit there, you know?
Starting point is 00:25:50 And so, yeah, this company 13th floor, which is a great, you know, if you're going to acquire a bunch of haunted hayrides, you'd better be called 13th floor. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:25:58 that's for real. But they, they like, as far as I could tell, lowered the wages of employees, acquired all these things, sold a bunch of sponsorships to Hulu, jacked up the prices so it cost 50 bucks to go on a hayride. And we can only hope they're compensating Monty Rivolta and his Band of the Living Dead fairly.
Starting point is 00:26:21 But I just take real issue. I feel like if it was still a mom and pop operation, it would still be equally unsafe. You would be taking your life in your hands by attending. But it would cost $20 and be fun. Not that it wasn't fun. It was very fun. But it's unsettling to go to a local haunted hayride
Starting point is 00:26:46 and feel that it has gone corporate yeah true especially like the the one in griffith park like it had like this you know homeliness to it but i guess now they're gobbled up by 13th floor entertainment group i mean i was like are they owned by venture capital? Right. Like it has to be someone sucking the fun out of, uh, out of everything. It was still great, but I was here, I was in a, a Hayride alumni text group. And most people who went back, they were like, I got put it's it there. It sounds ridiculous to, to read the text, but it's like, you know, someone I worked with last year is like, well, I quit today. They put me in skeletons and I was told I could do a stunt, but then I couldn't do a stunt. So I walked out on all the skeletons and I was like, good for you. Yeah. I feel like
Starting point is 00:27:36 this could just be the entire episode is talking to you about your experience with these haunted houses. Like the local haunted house market has come up a little bit as like we've been talking about. Like buying a haunted house? Yeah, we've been talking about the haunted house market. You're like Pete Davidson and Colin Joe's buying a boat, you guys buying a haunted house together. Just like that level of like the Instagram activation things. Like I took my kids to like Bubble World, I think it was called.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And it was just like a bunch of balloons. But it's like a whole thing designed around Instagram that seems to be like from about the same level of like employee and thought put into it as a haunted house but just like not around halloween and like they just yeah fill in an old ralphs and stuff like i'm just curious what what it was like in the guts of the haunted house industry it seems like i mean based on how my boss last year behaved last year behaved he was he had he had he had just about fucking had it with this with this corporation and and would start to say they're the last night on halloween night 2022 uh he was dressed as legolas from most most nights he would wear you know like a black shirt black pants because he was at work and he wasn't he wasn't a scare actor he was like the actor coordinator but the but he was growing in creek because and he had been in the haunt business
Starting point is 00:29:17 for years he would come around and like he was a super nice guy he'd come around and like show you pictures of like him and his husband working haunts in the mid 2000s. And he's like, then I got the leg injury. And now, you know, I'm happy to be working in a curatorial role. And like super, super cool guy. I love that level of professionalism and like dedication. That's great. Yeah, he was great.
Starting point is 00:29:40 And he ended up quitting and not coming back because he was being,romanaged and told that he was being too easy on actors. He was giving us too many breaks and he was being nice to us. And so by the end, he made a whole speech to everyone on Halloween night, dressed as Legolas, not related to the speech, but certainly enhanced it. He was like, I am leaving this business. This season has broken me. And I am like, and like, he just, he was done. They had gone corporate. He had had it. And, and there were so many injuries that like we weren't allowed to talk about. It was really, I, and then he said, he was like, my husband and I may move to Europe that bad or was that like an unrelated plan I don't know right I love that he gave like a Eisenhower speech about the military industrial complex like on the way out he was like this whole industry is fucked here's how rotten to its core and you're wondering why I'm dressed as Legolas?
Starting point is 00:30:45 Because Gondor has no king. Yeah. You're like, what the fuck? But it does also sound, because another kind of related at that level, like, world that I find super interesting, in addition to haunted houses, is like Renfair, right? Like, I feel like Renfair, like, Renf fair people might just as well like segue right into haunted hayride act totally but i feel like the ren fair is a little more debauched though behind the scenes oh it is certainly horn hornier i want like i went to my first ren fair this year so i can't i can't speak to the culture yeah like i't. But it seems like there's got to be a similar like there's a real theater kid showing a barn energy to the hayride, which I feel like the company's like the corporate interlopers kind of take advantage of because it's like, oh, if these people get injured, they're not going to say anything because it feels like we're doing community theater and we have to all finish it together and i'm like no we should sue these yeah likely venture capital didn't you didn't you get like a promotion last year i remember i was
Starting point is 00:31:49 following your tweets because someone like busted their knee or some shit and they're like all right jamie you're the fucking star tonight oh that's busted their head and we are using the passive voice into what happened to their head and just for legal reasons there's nothing that jamie jamie had nothing to do with it was not working to work her way up i certainly what if i would yeah what if i was doing it all about eve just saying you are a huge i tanya fan right uh yeah no i was murder nurse i was cast as murder nurse too wow that's Yeah. And I was like, you know, I was like a substitute and I was intended to play a different part every
Starting point is 00:32:29 single night because there was so many injuries. Yeah. And there were so many injuries and like COVID was going around that there was always going to be like, I was looking forward to being like, and now I'm a spider and now I'm a chainsaw clown, but I only ever got to be the murder nurse because the first night yeah the other murder nurse like fell off of a platform and hit her head and was taken away
Starting point is 00:32:50 in an ambulance right and she still came back that was like when i was like dude you have you have to like i don't know i was trying to be as like undercover as i could be but like you should sue these guys and she was like no you know i gotta finish out the season strong we're a family here and i was like no no they don't think you're a family you're not family to them yeah oh so yeah i was i was uh the only i was the sole murder nurse i went through i went on the that murder nurse no longer a part that is played within the hayride oh it was retired they were to hire your number it's not gonna get better than this yeah that's such a like that feels like one of the things where the entire charm is that it is like slapped together by unprofessional people and for it to be taken over by like private equity it real bummer. Such a bummer. This is fun.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I think we can do this for half the price and get twice the people in. When private equity takes over the whole carny circuit, I feel like that's when we're really fucked. There's a blog that I would read in high school and still read now in every post called diaryofacarny.blogspot.com. And he shares very similar views to you on that point
Starting point is 00:34:05 where he's just like, we used to be a proper country. Thank you. I'm glad you're ascribing these views to me. We're chicken shit, man. Chicken shit now. Fucking America, man. It is a bummer. I mean, and that's not to advocate for the old way of doing things because it really did seem to, you know, like because at the at the hayride, it was like a lot of, you know, guys in their 40s and teenage girls, which would play out the way you would imagine.
Starting point is 00:34:34 So it was good that we had, you know, a good supervisor, a legalist to, you know, he would regularly just move the 40-year-old guys elsewhere. Like, you'd be like, oh, we've got an issue with a werewolf. We're going to move him to the maze. Like, strategic. Very strategic. Of course it's the werewolves. I know. Playing to type. Disgusting. What's something you think is underrated, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:34:59 Ooh, women's hockey. This is something that's been on my mind recently. I know, I was excited to tell you about it, Miles. So I have been thinking about, I was with my dad over the summer and he's a hockey writer. And he was on the Bechdel cast after asking for years
Starting point is 00:35:19 because every couple, like once a year, he'd be like sort of throwing his hat in the ring as a potential guest on the show and he's like like he's just like you know jame uh slap shot was written by a woman did you know that did you know that and there's a woman in the movie as well and i was like and those brothers they have long hair so you could say they're challenging the binary a little bit those hampton brothers yeah the original foray into that and so this year finally i was like caitlin my dad he won't stop until we cover until we cover slap shot it would improve my day-to-day life if we just let him cover Slapshot. And I thought he did, you know, it was great. Slapshot does not hold up particularly well,
Starting point is 00:36:13 is in fact written by a woman, but we were talking about on the show how there's like no movies, at least about women's hockey, or at least popular movies about women's hockey. And so I was thinking a lot about just the idea of girl slap shot. And then when I got back to California, I was like, well, is there even like, what is there? And so, and it's, it's, there's not much, but there's two places that I've been checking out, including this pickup team in Simi Valley. Oh yeah. They got a good rink out there. Yeah. Ooh, it's the Isoplex. I was been checking out, including this pickup team in Simi Valley. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 They got a good rink out there. Yeah. Oh, it's the Isoplex. I was. Oh, Simi Valley is now an Isoplex? It's an Isoplex. Wait, did that change? The original Isoplex used to be in like North Hills, like West Hills area, like off the
Starting point is 00:36:59 405. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And their club, because I was all, you know, I was in the SoCal hockey scene. Their team was called the Wolves. And Isoplex was like one of the nicest newer rinks, but I didn't know that they had rebranded or moved or whatever. Like the rinks, the further you go out of like, main LA County, they're very, they're much nicer than what we have. I played at Pickwick in Burbank. Ooh, is that even still there? oh is that even still there yeah like they shoot they always like use that place to shoot any like skating scene like in the office like when like there was like ice skating there like they shoot it there so many things are like filmed in that rink but it's just a very shallow pool now the isoplex was beautiful and so i was like trying to go to these women's pickup games because there's a lot of like co-ed teams but there weren't a lot of just like specifically women's teams. And I finally made it up this week.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I'd been like texting with this woman and it was like, we're having a difficult time. And I was like, why am I having difficulty communicating with, uh, with this woman? And it was when I got there, it's because she's like my mom's age. She like the, the team was, it was like people in their like mid to late twenties through their mid to late sixties, like all playing together, play together every week. Play well. No, no. Which is, which I think is important for the older players too.
Starting point is 00:38:21 They can't play. A hip check could end your life. Exactly. Exactly. And so I, I, for sure. They can't play. A hip check could end your life. Exactly, exactly. And so I just have been, I don't know, and just talking to them about like everyone had driven minimum an hour to be there
Starting point is 00:38:32 because there are so few options. And I just, man, I had the best time talking to these ladies. And they had a, you know, they have like a bar at the rink too. So you could just go
Starting point is 00:38:43 and hang out afterwards. Crack a Labatt. Yeah, some Molson. Oh, they really have Labatt Blue? They had a Lab at the rink, too, so you can just go and hang out afterwards. Crack a Labatt. Yeah, some Molson. Oh, they really have Labatt Blue? They had a Labatt. Wow. Yeah, Labatt on tap. Labatt on tap.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah. Labatt on tap. It was really cool. It took me 30 years, but I finally understand the appeal of this little game. Yeah. Well, now there's a professional league that's starting up too. The Professional Women's Hockey League. And I know, I don't think LA has a team,
Starting point is 00:39:10 but they do on the East Coast and in Canada. But yeah, it's coming. Did your dad put a lot of pressure on you to play, like growing up? No, there was one significant push, but then he saw me skate and he was like, it's a non-starter. But when I was at the pickup game, when I was at the pickup game, they're hurting for players because it's so kind of
Starting point is 00:39:31 far out that they're like, can you skate? I was like, no. No, I'm not going to. I can't play with you. But maybe on a long enough timeline, I'll try it. Because, yeah, it's like there is no checking in these games and so that's when i could maybe i could stand in place for 45 minutes yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:39:53 yeah just just park it on the blue line yeah hockey was a big sport at my high school like i i went there you know moved to massachusetts halfway through high school from Kentucky, you know, a place where basketball is the only sport that matters to this place where I like I truly had not encountered hockey being a serious sport anywhere outside of a Disney movie. And like when everyone was like, God, the hockey players are so cool, so hot. like god the hockey players are so cool so hot and one of my friends one of my friends like used a loophole to get onto the freshman hockey team even though he was a junior and didn't know how to skate and so when you said just like stand there like he just like kind of glided out onto the ice right and then like took a like swipe at someone and fell over. And they were like, all right, man, get the fuck out of here. Like some Happy Gilmore shit. It was truly, truly Happy Gilmore.
Starting point is 00:40:49 But the slap shot on that guy. Breaking the glass. Shout out to Michael. Wow. Yeah, what a time. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and cover some news. It was December 2019 when the story blew up.
Starting point is 00:41:10 In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play.
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Starting point is 00:42:01 Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this.
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Starting point is 00:43:22 I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. They lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?
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Starting point is 00:44:05 and we're back and we're just gonna get right down to right down to it five night freddy's uh video game movie that did not was not aware of that i had a sense based on the poster it was something it was a movie based on something based on video game and it's like spooky chucky did you guys yeah which is i'm bummed that the movie sucks because it would chuck could really use the good pr right now yeah Yeah. Did either of you play it? I never played it, but I remember that was the first video game I ever saw, like, playthrough YouTube videos for. Okay. I never played it, but when we were both working at Playboy, Jamie, when I was doing video there, there was, like, a video series with two playmates that are gamers.
Starting point is 00:45:04 And I remember I had to, like, produce a shoot with that. And I was like, video series with two playmates that are gamers and i remember i had to like produce a shoot with that and i was like what the fuck and i was like oh this game is fucking freaky uh but i'm not into horror as a like a genre but i have seen it played and like at the time this was like the biggest shit like i think it came out in 2014 but yeah it's like a you know huge huge like indie game yeah it was i didn't even realize it was an indie game because of how like yeah that was the first time i had ever like encountered that as a thing that happened and thought it was isolated and then you know obviously i've never stopped seeing it but it's i mean haunted animatronics a great idea and the guy who
Starting point is 00:45:43 invented the chucky cheese animatronics very racist like don't don't fuck with this guy however however there he uh at least up as as recently as a couple years ago still had this warehouse in florida where uh the animatronics were once made and was really trying to capitalize on the success of Five Night Freddy. Because he basically lived in a haunted animatronics palace. So he started selling the Five Night Freddy birthday party experience with his scary old animatronics. And it seemed to be somewhat successful. Yeah, that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:46:23 I mean, the diehard fans, like they, I mean, it's, there's a reason why it became a Blumhouse film. It's because they definitely said, there is an audience. There's an absolute audience for it.
Starting point is 00:46:33 So producer Victor is noting that there are multiple three-hour lore documentaries about Five Nights at Freddy's. Five Nights at Freddy's? Yeah. What could that possibly mean? That's,
Starting point is 00:46:44 that's so interesting. Well, that's like a big thing that like as the reviews come in, like there's a whole debate where some people are like, it's not really for casuals, man. Like if you don't fuck like, or some people are like, there's not enough lore. If you don't fuck with the vision. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:57 It is wild. And I'm like, it's interesting following the reaction because like anything when you have a huge, like when a fandom gets to that point we're now like a blumhouse or major studios like yeah let's see if we can make money off of this it's always interesting to see how like inevitably the fans will be disappointed i think it's just generally what's always going to happen like it's there's only a few instances where you have something with like a huge mega following take that next jump to like major film distribution and it be you know
Starting point is 00:47:26 palatable i was kind of uh i i was positive because i i didn't see i i kind of forgot it was coming out until i if they showed the trailer at saw x and uh i was like damn they got hutcherson and my friend was like i don't think that's hard to do wait what did you just say yeah damn josh hutcherson's like what like in the seat in front of you 2012 yeah you need something i i did see josh hutcherson getting into a very quiet argument with his girlfriend in front of a restaurant near my house once so it is like not that hard to yeah to get hudgerson but but i was like i don't know maybe i just like went 2012 brain for a second where like i'm like damn they got hudgerson five night freddy is huge yeah it's bigger than hunger games yeah yeah there's something about the minds of people who are like scared of animatronics, I guess? I don't know, because the writer of the original
Starting point is 00:48:28 indie game is also a right-wing person. God, what is it with animatronics and being a piece of shit? I think because they're like techno slaves or some shit, probably. Oh, yeah. It's like, I make them do what I say, and I
Starting point is 00:48:44 can make you in my image like i don't know it's probably some weird god complex yeah yeah i can see that level but hey i would love to see where the where the woke animatronic studios right i mean there's certainly woke animatronic fans but i right but we're not technically minded unfortunately right right right right you're just there for the commentary we are topping out for five nights at freddy's we are topping out uh on metacritic so the overall metacritic score is 29 an average of 29 and we're topping out usually usually you will get like one or two that's like hey i actually enjoyed this because i was like my meds are dialed in or something you know
Starting point is 00:49:25 like so like i sometimes i just enjoy the hell out of them like one of my favorite film going experience was die hard for for no reason other than i was just in a good good mood right place in your life yeah good place in my life loved that movie the first time i saw it and then i watched it again i was like oh this is bad right but like this is at we're topping out at two out of five stars uh most of them are lower than that average and this like not all reviews are in but it's it seems pretty dismal and everyone's saying it's boring which yeah it's not boring yeah i mean even like the fans like there's a guy who would like stream it on youtube like this guy jacksepticeye like his review is like it is not great sort of like the nice version and and a lot of people like you made a lot of five nights at freddy content but again i think that's
Starting point is 00:50:17 where like you see a lot of you know other other fans come in and be like it's just people aren't gonna understand it it's not for normies but then this guy who like plays the game a ton is like just felt rushed in some spots other parts it just was very normal like did not feel like as you know original as like the game the original idea is itself so you see the trailer you're like oh they got hutcherson but they got a hutcherson but they like now i'm kind of embarrassed because Hutcherson knows like what I'm into and like they did such a bad job with the lore that right now like I'm like they shouldn't have done this to Hutcherson or us or Matthew Lillard you know Matthew they got they
Starting point is 00:50:59 got Lillard they got another thing I mean yeah Mary Stewart Masterson. Kind of a star-studded cast. I was really impressed with the cast. I love that they got Lillard. I feel like Lillard played the game. That's my guess, is that Lillard was into it. Hutcherson, I don't know of his hobbies. I don't know. His agents were like, hey, man, you're going to have to say yes to this.
Starting point is 00:51:23 We got bad news. You have to be the lead five night freddy you're five night freddy because you're five you're freddy you're freddy your knife yeah you're knife freddy because nobody was fucking with journey to the center of the earth too oh god he was in that uh it's a bummer that we would eat at the same ramen place it's like when i saw taylor lautner at a bar I go to. And you're just like, this sucks. Recently?
Starting point is 00:51:49 It was like five years ago. So I think that. Well, yeah, but I mean like post like super twilight peak. Yeah. Yeah. And it was like a place where you get like, you know, $3 backwash. I'm like, why the hell is Taylor Lautner here drinking $3 backwash with the the plebs was he doing that thing where he had his back to the bar looking out at the bar he was holding court he was holding court it was really cool like he bought rounds he he was
Starting point is 00:52:16 holding court he had no issue with you knowing he was drinking backwash at the bar which is cool that's a cool quality he was with with, I think, his girlfriend now, his wife, also named Taylor. That's not very cool, I don't think. Wait, he married a Taylor? Yeah. Yeah. No, they're the Taylors Lautner.
Starting point is 00:52:34 They're both Taylor Lautner. Yeah. That's incredible. Should we talk about the Britney Spears memoir? Oh, the audio book? Have you guys listened? Yeah. I haven't, though. I've just slowly seen some like excerpts get sort of elevated to the top but obviously i think the big one with the release of
Starting point is 00:52:53 the audiobook was everyone sharing the clip of michelle what michelle williams doing an impression of justin timberleg doing a black scent yeah it's what it's a lot have you not heard it no jamie for someone who is so online i'm like james this is old hat for jamie i'm sure okay so i was i was trying to i was like let's see how long i because i was like i want to read it and i also was waiting for an episode of chelsea davantes's podcast about it i was like and then i'll engage oh yeah so we'll just one excerpt you know like this is one loose line that's like blowing up where she's first of all like britney spears is talking about why she was fucking with in sync over backstreet boys she's like in sync like they listen to hip-hop like they seem more oriented
Starting point is 00:53:35 towards that kind of culture where the backstreet boys felt very white i'm just gonna we'll just play this clip really quick because they're all white guys from Florida. And yeah. And like, is that like the same guy? Let's not forget Chris with his techno dreads either. Oh my. But Hey, let's focus on Justin here. Skylar himself. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:53:54 this is a, this is one of the excerpts here. Just talking about this time where he met another famous R&B musician. So the other thing, like a lot of people are pointing out, like this seems michelle williams is a five-time academy award nominee people are like why is she doing this and then they're listening and they're like oh she's the best that has ever done this before she's killing
Starting point is 00:54:19 it she's doing a great job so yeah with this is a little sample of that and it's an anecdote that a lot of it's caught a lot of people's attention his band in sync was what people back then called so pimp they were white boys but they loved hip-hop to me that's what separated them from the backstreet boys who seemed very consciously to position themselves as a white group in sync hung out with black artists sometimes i thought they tried too hard to fit in. One day, Jay and I were in New York going to parts of town I'd never been to before. Walking our way was a guy with a huge blinged out medallion. He was flanked by two giant security
Starting point is 00:54:56 guards. Jay got all excited and said so loud, oh yeah, folksies, folksies she's genuine what's up homie after genuine walked away felicia did an impression of jay oh yeah for she's for she's genuine jay wasn't even embarrassed wow i like the there's like a yada yada pass that i'm sure they had an interaction but it kind of suggests that genuine just he did that and genuine just walked away yeah it was like oh my god the fuck is that the abrupt switch after the like the audiobook pause before genuine walked away like you're oh my god after genuine walked away she's a professional yeah she's good professional that alarming i'm i'm looking forward to uh to reading that book or probably more likely listening to it celebrity memoirs are meant to be listened to especially oh yeah because i'm pretty
Starting point is 00:56:00 sure what britney spears personally was like i need i want michelle williams to narrate this like this is why this is happening so very weird very weird how do they know each other Because I'm pretty sure what Britney Spears personally was like, I want Michelle Williams to narrate this. Like, this is why this is happening. Very weird. Very weird. How do they know each other? Dialed in so well, though. What better person to lend your voice or to have them lend their voice than have Michelle Williams do the Britney Spears book?
Starting point is 00:56:20 So good. Maybe she'll get the EGOT. Yeah. Maybe she will. This is her Grammy. yeah yeah god beautiful there's i mean there's all sorts of the there's also the story that britney spears almost got what was the famous role that she almost oh the notebook the notebook yeah she almost was cast in the notebook she was like in the final three yeah it was between no she was in the final two between her and rachel mcadams and like they like scarlett johansson all these other people had tried out
Starting point is 00:56:52 and they were like britney spears is like fucking nailing this she's like really absolutely like an amazing actor oh wow there's like her audition tape is available yeah that's so cool i think they camera tested with with ryan too yeah that's i always want i mean i know that there were a number of extenuating circumstances in britney's life that uh but i was her her movie career was like a non-starter and up until recently you couldn't even get crossroads like you couldn't even stream it until recently even though that was like an early shonda rhimes script oh i didn't realize that yeah that was like one i i think it was like shonda rhimes one of shonda rhimes like first produced scripts ever was the britney spears vehicle crossroads and she's so good in it and she's so charming and like she's a good actor and it's like
Starting point is 00:57:47 they're it worked out for mandy moore many more kind of dropped music and started this is a singer i don't i still don't know what that show is about but damn she would have been cool in the notebook yeah yeah because what shonda rhimes also did she didn't she do princess diaries 2 that was like another super early one yeah yeah yeah yeah sean that was after crossroads yeah you're right yeah pre-crossroads and if i'm recalling i i know i i know too much of shonda's uh filmography i think it's just shy of it's like the year before gray's anatomy she did princess diaries 2 royal Engagement. Yep, sure enough, it is true. It is true. But I'm like, what is
Starting point is 00:58:27 Shonda's relationship with Brittany? Is there one? We don't know. We don't know. What could have been, you know? Truly. If she was Meredith Grey. Yeah. But then it's like, we would have been, I mean, and again, this is like not even taking into
Starting point is 00:58:44 account what happens later in Brittany's career, but like we would have been I mean, and again, this is like not even taking into account what happens later in Britney's career. But like we would have we would have not gotten some really solid Britney albums if she if she had gone too far into acting. So, yeah, when she talks about it, she's like, you know, at a certain point I decided to stop auditioning and just record just drop classic albums on you all instead if yeah if we got because if we got like if if we got britney in the notebook we may not have gotten blackout and that would have been challenging right for me as a youth for american culture that would have been pretty hard you think america's bad right now you think america's bad right now uh try and try and picture this counterfactual yeah but yeah and also she has a quote like in one of the articles i read about the notebook thing that she was like it
Starting point is 00:59:39 was just mentally too difficult like i i just embodied the character and trying out for that character got to me. She was almost too method to actually pursue acting because it was just too painful for her. God, I love that woman.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Sounds like a great actor. Let's make it happen. It's funny too because Justin Timberlake does not come out looking good in this too. Like she talks about how like she became pregnant, like with his child and then, you know, had to have an abortion and things like that.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And then like now it's funny to see the PR machine move in Justin's direction. And they're like, Justin Timberlake is fine. He's actually just focusing on being with his family, like amid the noise. When it's also like pretty well documented that his family does not like him right so cool i hope i'm sure they're really enjoying spending time with you
Starting point is 01:00:32 on this your 50th cancellation i was trying to i was trying to think of you know like because of sag rules i'm like i have to think of like a halloween costume i can wear and i have a lot of i can pretty close to replicate the justin timberlake denim outfit and so i'm trying to put something together like recently disgraced denim boyfriend but i but it's getting the hat together because then i you know and and then i was just gonna put you know tear streaks some snot shit like that recently disgraced denim boyfriend that's. That's a free one for everybody. That's so good. You got to get those gradiated,
Starting point is 01:01:08 like those gradient shades too. Oh my God. Yeah. Like the, the yellow, the, the, the freaky late nineties blue blockers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Yeah. Yo, it's so wild. Like that, that outfit, there's like how there's like tutorials on how to make the disgraced denim boyfriend outfit. Like it's like how to make your denim Britney and Justin outfit.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Good Lord. What a time. What a time. I mean, great, great, horrible man. Great outfits. Britney. God bless her. She's the best.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Keep on dancing with those knives, girl. Or don't. Jamie, such a pleasure having you, as always. Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Oh, the same old places. Instagram, at JamieCraySuperstar. Twitter, at Jamie LoftusHelp.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Listen to Beck DelCaz. Read Raw Dog and stay safe out there. Yeah. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? I wanted to shout out Marsha Belsky really quick. She tweeted about it yesterday, but she was arrested at the Capitol this week. She was protesting with If Not Now, calling for a ceasefire and kind of shared her whole kind of experience of what that was like and, you know, some criticism of Bernie Sanders in particular. And I just it's a very informative thread and she's the fucking coolest. So that is a work of media that I found inspiring and cool this week.
Starting point is 01:02:41 There you go. Miles, where can people find you? What's the work of media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter, Instagram, everywhere else. Let's see. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 At Miles Gray. Also follow us on our basketball podcast, milesandjack.madboosties. If you like 90 Day Fiance and Trash TV, well, check out my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance
Starting point is 01:03:01 with Sophia Alexandra. And if you like, you know, true crime, check out The Good Thief like you know true crime check out the good thief the new uh true crime show i'm doing uh but it's all up all eight episodes are out uh let's see a tweet that i like i don't know if i have any tweets because i haven't been on there recently uh but i just started watching the bear oh so i just i was like yo what the fuck is going on here uh i'm yeah it sounds like people are right that shows it's uh
Starting point is 01:03:26 it's worth watching but yeah so far i'm enjoying what i'm seeing yes chef am i right we chef we behind is joel mckale that much of a dick i've only like seen this like one flashback scene or he's like maniacally being like you fucking suck like what the fuck is this He's like maniacally being like, you fucking suck. What the fuck is this? You suck shit. You suck shit. You suck the fuck up. You're slow.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Go fast. Oh, man. Oh, my God. It really embodies your mind at its least healthy, or at least my mind at its least healthy. I feel like he's a great stand-in for that. Right. What the fuck do you think you're doing? It like so mean it's like kind of comical it's it's pretty incredible right the bear you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien i haven't really been looking at twitter
Starting point is 01:04:22 for the past four hours. Thank you. My Bloody Valentine. I think that's the name of the slasher film that I recently watched that is Fun Hot Garbage from like 1981, 82. And it is shot
Starting point is 01:04:39 in a town in Canada. You like, it's this like really run rundown town. They shot it on location. I think probably because like they lived there and, but you really get a sense of like the town from the movie. That is about a slasher who comes out around Valentine's day and starts cutting people's hearts out.
Starting point is 01:05:02 The best. Yes. You can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page on our website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off the information we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do you think people might enjoy well i guess well we? We're going to have the link to that Henry Winkler music video because I found it.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Hell yeah. You can check that out in the footnotes. The opening is wild. Anyway, let's see. Is it a song that is also about monsters or is it about horses? No, dude. Is it Monte Coded? It's called Puddles and Wishing Wells. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:05:44 And, you know, I'll let y'all check the footnotes you can watch the full-length video uh that came out in 2009 uh it was actually 2009 it turns out but anyway uh the music that i think we should go out on is this wishing well monty revolt is rendition of i will always love ghoul his wordplay is truly next level band of the living dead going out on an la band called the altons a-l-t-o-n-s uh and they're like you know a band that's around now they're from la but they their shit sounds like you've discovered like new 45 records like if like motown was like in la like it feels like west coast like 60s 70s soul it's really dope
Starting point is 01:06:27 and they're really talented and like they got the aesthetic really down and this track is called Over and Over by the Altons A-L-T-O-N-S alright well we will link off to that in the footnotes the Daily Zayka is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio visit the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows
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