The Daily Zeitgeist - Hot Little Piece of Gross, How To Be An Iraqi Baller 2.14.18

Episode Date: February 14, 2018

In episode 85, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Aisling Bea to discuss their favorite romantic comedies, Olympics coverage, Shaun White's past sexual harassment claims, sought after Iraqi phone... numbers, politicians refusing PAC money, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:09 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 18, Episode 3 of Dare Daily Zeitgeist! For February 14th, Valentine's Day 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jalak Panther. Courtesy of Cub One Fan Three. Pick a number, Cub One Fan Three. And I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. You know what? I'm going to do you one better, and I'm going to raise the stakes here, because Cub One Fan Three also hit me with the AK.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And I'm going to go with the Gray Panther, because I'm Miles Gray. Low-hanging fruit, but an appropriate AK nonetheless. So thank you. You just did the fruit, but an appropriate AKA nonetheless. So thank you. You just did the double, Cub One Fan Three. Get another idea, Cub One Fan Three. Sorry, I'm being so mean to you. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very funny comedian, Aisling B. Woo-hoo!
Starting point is 00:03:00 Woo-hoo! How are you? Hello, America. I'm great. It's Valentine's Day. I'm on what can only be described as a date. You might describe it as a podcast, but I'm taking what I can get, to be honest, boys. Jackie, you've been mentioning your child, which I think is odd for a date.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I'm having a great day. That's right. We are recording this extra early so I can get to my son's Valentine's Day party at his preschool. So I appreciate you all being here. And you really worked hard to get on that guest list, too. Yes, that was a very tough one. I thought child marriage was outlawed in America, but it's nice to see it's still going strong. Still having their meet and greets. Still putting it out there.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Aisling, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human? Well, what is interesting is that I delete all my search history on the weekly. Yeah, I have this feeling I'm just very clumsy. And I know I'm like always a day or two before someone finds my stuff. So I just tend to, rather than be more responsible, just delete my search history in case someone finds it. But my last one from yesterday was
Starting point is 00:04:11 Unauthorized Rock Musical of Jurassic Park. And that is an unauthorized musical that my friend is in and I was looking for tickets last night to get them. And so he's in LA. Wait, there is a Jurassic Park musical?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Well, I'm just interested to know what the authorized Jurassic Park musical is. If this is the unauthorized one, they have to legally say that. So I'll be interested to see what it's like going next Saturday. Jurassic Park is a very important film for me. And especially lends itself towards singing and dancing. Oh, absolutely. So I'm interested to see how that will be. And it's lends itself towards singing and dancing. Oh, absolutely. So I'm interested to see how that will be. And it's 25 years, I think, right?
Starting point is 00:04:49 93 is when it came out? I just, I have to see this now. Yeah. This sounds amazing. Because I'm picturing that there are actors portraying the dinosaurs. Do you think that that will be happening? Yeah, I'd hope so. People raptoring around on stage. Yeah, the raptors will rap.
Starting point is 00:05:06 I hope they haven't found some amber and put a needle through the amber into a mosquito to recreate that. Because we all saw what happened last time when someone did that for entertainment. It did not go so well. Yeah, Muldoon, the hunter guy, will do a number called Clever Girl.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah. Clever girl, you tricked me. I mean, maybe we're writing it right now but i know just a note for your friend if he doesn't do that that's very low-hanging fruit uh what is something you think is underrated underrated sandra bluck yeah yeah i have long thought this i think she does not get what she deserves and if she's listening to the podcast, which I can only assume she can, because she also lives in America. I think that you are an underrated actress and are wonderful and can turn your hand to comedy and drama, Sandra,
Starting point is 00:05:54 and let no one tell you any different. And you're kind and you've aged beautifully without looking like you've gone under the knife. You seem to be lovely off camera as well. Not that I've ever met you, but in sort of backstage hangs. Miss Congeniality, still one of my favourite films.
Starting point is 00:06:10 She was being an empowered, funny woman who didn't have to be a mess, was funny on her own terms even back then. She had to act just floating around with George Clooney for ages on her own in a silly space suit, which was harder than you think.
Starting point is 00:06:26 In Gravity. Or Lack of Gravity, as I called it last time. I've never heard of her. I'm going to play along with your underrated thing and say. Oh, she's an actress. Her name's Sandra Bullock. She speaks German, too. But I will check her out. Yeah, she's bilingual.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Yeah, she's a really new kid on the block. I'm not surprised you haven't heard of her. She was in that documentary you love, Jack, called Speed. Yes. Do you remember? About that terrible bus accident. That's why I moved to L.A. Because of that documentary.
Starting point is 00:06:55 L.A. looked like a fun place. What is something you think is overrated? I feel like, again, this might be controversial because I feel like tomorrow I'll bump into him now or something. Tom Hiddleston. That is, yeah. And I just don't get the... Like, for me, he, A, of course, he's a handsome man,
Starting point is 00:07:15 but handsome in the same way all men from the town are. You know, like, yeah. Oh, you've got teeth. Biologically, it seems sound. But, like, not like, oh, my days, I'd be late for that. yeah oh you've got teeth biologically it seems sound but like not like oh my days I'd be late for that
Starting point is 00:07:28 like and then oh my days I'd be late for that and then when he does anytime he goes in a chat show
Starting point is 00:07:36 he does his impressions or anytime he does an interview he does his like seven impressions where he's kind of like I'm Sean Connery how you doing right
Starting point is 00:07:42 and all this sort of stuff and you're like that's that's that's that's exactly what boring people do on dates right you know when someone goes
Starting point is 00:07:49 you know I can do impressions and you're like oh can you brilliant what can you do Jesus please sounds like you did a lot of actors maybe yeah that's true
Starting point is 00:07:58 that's the problem but also everyone does like if you if you can do Andy Dufresne impression I don't care because everyone can do that. That's like being able to kind of breathe or drink water. The Morgan Freeman, Andy Dufresne. Andy Dufresne.
Starting point is 00:08:12 I'm like, yeah, everyone can do that. Yeah, it's really good. It's brilliant. I thought that was Morgan in the building. Right. Or Christopher Walken. Right. Like, I mean, that's not, yeah, that's not, you're not clever.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Wow. So that is my, and did you see him sing Man in the Mirror somewhere in Asia? Who, Christopher Walken? No, not Christopher Walken, Tom Hiddleston. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Do yourselves a favor or actually maybe ruin your day by watching. He's like, yeah, okay, I suppose I could sing you a song, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And then they start. Really? And then he goes, I'm going to make a change. You know, really off. Like that sort of. But he had the. A-tonal. I'm looking at the man in the mirror.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You know, really just slightly off, which is worse than completely off. Right. Always. It was real dodgy territory. Spicy stuff. So that's my. Terrible. But everyone was like...
Starting point is 00:09:06 Just couldn't... Maybe that Taylor Swift co-sign did it all. Yeah. I don't even understand them as a couple. Do you know what? He doesn't come across as a bad man. It's not about his soul, which I believe is good. It's just the overrated quality to it.
Starting point is 00:09:23 If him and Sandra could combine their power and just do their job I feel like they'd both get what they deserve and it made him seem suspicious to me that he dated Taylor Swift because I think
Starting point is 00:09:33 she's like a alien cyborg type thing I don't I think as she says she gets all this oh Taylor Swift and her exes
Starting point is 00:09:40 but Ed Sheeran just talks us through his day every single song and everyone's like, oh, he's just got so much range in his songs. And it's always like, I walked down the road and I met a girl. Yes, another girl, and it's a different song, but it's the same girl from the other
Starting point is 00:09:54 song. And then we had a packet of Doritos, and you're like, oh, God. But he doesn't get any bad flack. All right. Well, I now dislike Tom Hiddleston a little bit more and have a greater appreciation for this woman you call Sandra Bullock. Bullock and Swift. I'll have to check out.
Starting point is 00:10:12 All right. We're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about today on Valentine's Day 2018. And the way we like to open things up is by asking our guest, what is a myth? What is something that you know that people think is true that you know to be false? Well, this is actually something that is straight off the presses, hot off the
Starting point is 00:10:33 pan just this morning. As they say. When I came in and I was talking to Miles about America and... Because you have an interesting accent. You're not from California. Alabama. Oh, I think I am. Okay. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I'm bad. I have a really bad ear, so it's hard for me. You are miles from the truth right now. Oh, here we go. My young man. I am actually Irish, yes. And so when one comes to another country, one spots the little intricacies of a place. And we were talking about red cups at parties.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Right. And I always thought everyone in were talking about red cups at parties. Right. And I always thought everyone in America drank from red cups at parties and it's very exciting for foreign people to come here because we see in the movies
Starting point is 00:11:12 red cups at parties and that's how you know you're having a hashtag good time when you have red cups. And you think that actually people don't really drink red cups that much at parties that it's probably something
Starting point is 00:11:24 movie people, like producers, are like, guys, we need everyone for continuity reasons. Solo cups. Or they call it solo cups. The brand is called Solo. But it's an odd name because what cups are like conjoined cups?
Starting point is 00:11:40 You're like, oh, can I have a cup but on its own? Could you not give me two cups? Yeah. Like where does the idea of solo cup? I wish we could get to the bottom of it. I don't know. It could have been a very lonely man.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I think Han. Oh, Han Solo. It might be a Han Solo. He's diversifying. That's like saying solo hats. Right. Can I just have the one hat for my head? Yeah, I was only going to give you one hat for your head in the first place.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It's like I'm not one of those fancy city men wearing three hats at once. Oh, three hats Johnny. I love that guy. Three hats Johnny. Man, he's from New York City. Couldn't you tell he got three hats on? So apparently the rumor overseas is that you go to any party in America and everybody's going to be holding solo cups. And the truth I'd say in my experience is that it's more high school and college parties sometimes.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And that's it. Yeah. I mean, I grew up, every high school party I went to was probably Solo cups. Or any party that has like a keg. Usually you have, if there's a keg of beer, then you have the Rez Solo cups. Or you just have them because you go to Costco or wherever, and they're typically like the most robust sort of heavy-duty cup you can use and pour a large quantity of alcohol in without going like blue.
Starting point is 00:12:49 But they're all red is a thing. There's nothing like blue cup. There are blue ones. But for whatever reason, I think, yeah, films have, art directors over many films have just created this myth. It's just shorthand.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It's like, you know, they just have to spend less time thinking about it. It's just like everybody knows that that's beer and a cup. But it's funny that it's become such a myth that if you see like a party in another film from another country, they're probably just drinking out of glasses. Right. Yeah. Because they're civilized. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And we're wasteful consumers who are going to destroy the earth. But hi, welcome to America. Also, as you were pointing out, Miles, red cups means you can just have nothing in the cup. Yeah. If you're shooting a movie, you don't have to be like, hey, does everyone have liquid in their cup? Don't drink it on this take. You just need to fake sip that empty-ass cup. But that's what's interesting, the myth of it, that it's probably more to do with the art department. And so many parties are in American movies.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Like so many teen movies and like frat that sort of like we don't really have of course we have the college culture of going to parties but that sort of frat house fraternities
Starting point is 00:13:52 doesn't exist in outside of America. What was your experience like what kind of cups did you drink out of at parties? Oh well I've actually
Starting point is 00:13:59 drank out of numerous different types of cups over the years guys. Like actual glasses? Yeah I'm going to be like Bubba Gump in Forrest Gump now,
Starting point is 00:14:07 where it's like, I drank out of big cups, small cups, plastic cups. But is there anything standard? Wine glasses. Yep, see, it's an Alabama accent. There is like kind of white plastic cups maybe, and they've been a lot smaller. That sort of big beer cup we wouldn't actually have. But I just really like the idea that it's not even just they sell them cheap and everyone has them at parties.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That it's, I really like your idea, Miles, that like producers, first of all, it means that everyone can drink, but you never have any drink in it. You wouldn't see for continuity it going up or down. I used to think it was red cups so then if the police came into the frat party and were like, you're all under 21, which is strange for an age to start drinking at. But stop drinking. They'd be like, no, my red cup's just full of juice, officer.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Right, right, right. Well, you do that just if you're drinking places you're not supposed to, like the beach or whatever, then you have those cups. So they can't immediately say you're drinking and when they pull up, just slam that shit. Because cans, in Ireland, cans is a big thing, like having a can. Yeah, that's... You wouldn't really get a keg, you get a load of cans.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Right. So the keg idea is quite kind of not... Again, we're excessive, and it's like, well, we could drink 78 cans of beer, but we could also make nine. Which one's more wasteful? Yeah. One big keg and plastic cups. That is probably wasteful because the plastic.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Right. Or a load of cans. You can recycle the cans. Although I noticed in Ireland when I was there that they pay a lot of attention to the percentage of alcohol in the beer. Yes. So like that's a thing in America. It's more efficient here. It's just incidental.
Starting point is 00:15:41 But light. In Ireland. You get drunk having more water. It's not incidental, but in Ireland, basically, if it has a higher percentage of alcohol, it'll cost a little bit more because it's more efficient at doing its job. It's like a very specific thing. Is that not a thing here? No, it'll cost the same, basically. Like IPAs will cost the same. I mean, think about malt liquor is cheaper than those beers if you want it.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I mean, which isn't technically a beer. Whoa. Right. You're so right, though, because we're like, oh, the value is the alcohol, not the taste. Right, exactly. Yeah. That's what's getting – that's what's doing the work. That's what you're paying for. We're all about high volume here. High volume. All right.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Because it's Valentine's Day, we wanted to talk real briefly about romantic comedies, just about our love lives. Yeah. And just, Miles, what's your favorite thing to do with a lady? You know, you're just kissing on your lady because you have a real life girlfriend and she's like, I love you. Somebody knows that I'm good. Oh, that's the best. She's like, looks in your eyes and is like, I am your girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:16:39 That's tight. Yeah, no, all very believable stuff. So instead of doing that, we wanted to talk about romantic comedies. We wanted to name some of our favorites or our favorite and maybe least favorite rom-com tropes. Favorite rom-com, go, Jack. Pride Notting Hill or something about Mary, if you let me, if you allow it. It's not really a romantic comedy. It's romantic.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It is. And it's a full-blown comedy. Yeah. Yeah, totally. It's about a guy getting a girl. Yeah. And it's called There's Something About Mary.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. It's absolutely a romantic comedy. There are romantic moments. Just because there's J's in it doesn't mean there's... Thank you. Yeah. See, and I've been saying that
Starting point is 00:17:17 the whole time. Yeah. So that's my favorite. Okay. Least favorite. Love Actually. Even though it's by the same guy who did Notting Hill. Not a big fan of Love Actually.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Aisling, what's your pick? What is my pick? What is my pick? Oh, I love, I'm not sure if you guys ever got it here. There's an old Pride and Prejudice, not the Keira Knightley one. There's another one. It was the original one Colin Firth became famous for. And in it, there's a famous scene where he gets out of a lake
Starting point is 00:17:45 and is like, oh, grumpily shake some water off of himself. And I always liked that one because afterwards you can't help but start speaking exactly like this
Starting point is 00:17:54 the whole time. It's very hard not to start speaking in English yet. And it's all about manners and the sort of like looking at someone across the crowded dance hall
Starting point is 00:18:03 but the dancing is really unenergetic and sexy. It's just walking up, shaking your shoulders, walking back. And it's just that sort of like back in the day dancing.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But it's all eyes and Mr. Darcy, do you think that for three pounds a year I'm going to marry someone like it's that sort of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I really like that sort of old...
Starting point is 00:18:22 They're doing a lot with just their eyes and a few manners which I think it's very interesting. And you still get as much frisson from it. Miles? Oh, I think One Fine Day. What's One Fine Day again? One Fine Day is with Michelle Pfeiffer and George Clooney, where they're, you know, just single parents trying to take their kids to daycare.
Starting point is 00:18:42 But they're also balancing their careers at the same time. I don't know why do they do it i think i don't know it could be nostalgia it's like one of the first dates i went on like in sixth grade like i took my sixth grade girlfriend to see and i felt like an adult this is one fine day uh and it also made me think uh new york was the coolest place ever what uh is sixth grade age wise what roughly what's that 12 years old 12 you brought a girl to the cinema? Yes. Miles, you little legend. Bought her a Diet Coke and everything. Oh my God, that's fairly advanced. I took an eighth grader once when I was in sixth grade to see Baz Luhrmann's Romeo and Juliet. Oh my God, that's full on. So, you know, I'm out here. Yes, as they would say.
Starting point is 00:19:20 That's too advanced. That's almost child services. I'm a little suspicious of you. Well, you know, some say I was the original pickup artist. Yeah. Who was that some who would say? Mostly me in a sort of drug-induced psychosis. But yes, that is me. When Harry met Sally, can I throw that into the mix?
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yes. Yeah. Trope-wise, though, it always starts off with some level of deception. Like I'm an undercover journalist or like, I'm not a shit bag or whatever. And then they're like, wait, I'm into deep.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Isn't that how all relationships start? I guess. True. Yeah. I'm not a shit bag. That is true. It's like the beginning. You're like,
Starting point is 00:19:59 no man, I'm really on top of my shit. Just in general, I think the most misleading, uh, it's necessary for the purposes of all romantic comedies, but the most misleading trope in romantic comedies is that dating is like really hard. And like, right. Because dating is the easy part. If you're like in a relationship with somebody who's like the one whereas like you know a successful relationship years down the road is difficult but like dating is they have to like throw all these obstacles
Starting point is 00:20:34 in the way of like people who are in love with each other like you know a bet or you know one of them being an undercover journalist who is just doing research on them or uh my other least favorite trope is uh that rape is a funny prank like in revenge of the nerds and wedding crashers wait i don't remember the bit in wedding crashers well when he's talking about when he ties him up yeah he ties him up and like it is has like a yeah he's like kissing on vince vaughn like the brother. I don't remember that bit. Isn't that though? There's loads of, well, this is what happens with the Me Too campaign.
Starting point is 00:21:08 You go, no, it never happened to me. Oh no, it has 18 times. I just forgot. That's right. You just sort of tend to go, it's so expected, this stuff that you've, and so. Yeah, at the time it was like, whoa, isn't it funny that a dude like tied up another dude and like forced himself on it? Whoa.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Right. Gay people. Ho, ho, ho. It was sort of like the vehicle that powered that joke. And you sort of don't notice it because you're like, oh yeah, this is awful. Isn't it? But the brother is involved at first maybe.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I don't know. I forget exactly how it happens. Revenge of the Nerds, which is like this beloved 80s movie that people have nostalgia for, the main character like misleads a woman into thinking that he's her boyfriend and performs oral sex on her. Oh my God. And that's like
Starting point is 00:21:52 a gas. And even the fact that it's called revenge of the nerds. Yeah, exactly. Like revenge of any group of people on women is not great. When you start looking at all these little things, you're like,
Starting point is 00:22:05 oh God, we've got a lot of work to do, guys. We're still kind of there because we're living in revenge of the anti-feminist internet user. Right. So it's kind of the same thing.
Starting point is 00:22:15 That's what I mean. It's almost like that's gone, like, that's gone darker now. It's gone. Wow. Wow. It has.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. All right. Well, happy Valentine's Day. Yeah. Happy Valentine's Day, everyone. Thanks, guys. What a weird date I'm on. All right, well, happy Valentine's Day. Yeah, happy Valentine's Day, everyone. Thanks, guys. What a weird date I'm on. All right, we'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah. I did my homework. I tuned in because I wanted to see Michaela Schifrin. She's this U.S. athlete who, you know, very young and has like won gold in slalom last time. What's her sport? Slalom skiing. Slalom? So she like does, you know, the cutting back and forth.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And she's supposedly great. The New Yorker did a profile of her that was like pretty interesting and like makes her seem like this like weird sport cyborg who she like still rooms with her mom when she's on the road. Like she's like totally kind of socially has, Oh, like has a singular focus. Yeah. Just like so singularly focused that it's almost like she's not a full person.
Starting point is 00:27:17 So she's only 17. I know miles was like dating from 12. I think she's 22 at this point. Oh, okay. Michaela Schifrin. She was, I think she's 22 at this point. Oh, okay. Michaela Schifrin. She was, I think 18 when she won the gold four years ago,
Starting point is 00:27:29 but I just did that math in my head. But anyways, she, people keep getting delayed because there's like such strong winds. We talked about that before. Like they're going to blow the people off the side of the mountain, which wouldn't be good. So that got delayed and I ended up watching a lot of curling, which is a great sport that
Starting point is 00:27:48 I still don't know the rules of, but it's a lot of fun to watch. But so before we get into the main event last night, Sean White winning the gold and the fallout from that, we wanted to talk about a hot take from the Barstool Sports guys yesterday responding to the previous night's big event, Chloe Kim winning gold. This guy had an interesting take, right, Miles? So the show is called Dialed In with Dallas Braden. So you can imagine this is a safe space. So anyway, this is them just chatting shit about Khloe Kim
Starting point is 00:28:30 and just their thoughts on the 17-year-old snowboarder. I'm inspired by it. Yeah, Khloe Kim, famous for riding a very different board than Kim Kardashian. There you go. No doubt. In fact, just to keep it on that tip, her 18th birthday is April 23rd, and the countdown is on, baby, because I got my Wooderson going. That's what I like about them high school girls.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Man, she's fine as hell. I love it, Pete Connell. I'm right there with you. Yeah, dude, she's fine as hell. If she was 18, you wouldn't be ashamed to say that she's a little hot piece of ass. She's cute. She is. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Hey. Yeah. And then afterwards, Brody Stevens is like like did you just take a boner pill pecan boner pill pecan pecan i'm right there with you dude keep it on that tip jesus uh yeah so there's a show called toxic masculinity that's the real life version yeah that's the real uh yeah so i guess that guy had to kind of walk his things back you could hear the actual host be like all all right, that's it. And he was sort of just trying to be like, bro, don't do this on my show. Right. So that guy, Deadspin, wrote an article about that little segment, and he responded on Twitter, Deadspin's still a thing?
Starting point is 00:29:38 And then 13 hours later was like, I deeply regret my comments about Chloe Kim. Chloe, you are an inspiration. And I completely walked it back. But I went to his blog, and he is just so consistent in his voice that I just want to read a small part of his blog. So he's talking about how he lives in Georgetown, apparently. And he grew up close by, and his dad has just asked him, how has the neighborhood changed? And he says, I thought about it, and I told him, yeah, she's good.
Starting point is 00:30:11 The neighborhood? Yeah, the neighborhood. Cool. Yeah, she good. Funny, because if you read all the fancy editorials in the New York Times and watch cable news shows, you'd think Henny Penny, a.k.a. Chicken Little, had taken out a 35-year mortgage on a sweet pad at the corner of Prospect and 31st. So, yeah, DJT kicks it at 1600 Pennsylvania, and he's a weird mofo. But I haven't heard one citizen of the district express fear or share apocalyptic testimony. Yeah, I just love DJT kicks it it at 1600 and he's a weird mofo
Starting point is 00:30:48 yeah you mean donald trump is the fucking president who's a racist biggie uh sex offender yeah whatever he's a weird mofo bro you know i'm not really good at calling out other men so let's just leave it a weird mofo bro but you know what what's good about these situations is that is not some weird one off little piece of language. And in the current time, if what we do is pick up on these things, don't hang them out to dry and ruin his life. But in those little moments go, do you know what? Yeah. Stop. Take an opportunity to learn.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Hopefully other people will learn. And now let's move on from this one. You know, like that. That's another tiny microaggression. Right. That's just, but actually we need to cauterize these situations as they come along. Because that's how the world is going to change. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I think it's with each of those situations. But those things don't make me, I almost feel tired when I hear those things. Yeah. The reason being that's all the time every day. So for a lot of men hearing these things, you're like, what? How could you say that? But you're like, that's walking down the road. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:51 So I'm really glad someone said it out loud and has been lambasted for it because now then other people might go, oh, better not say that or better try and watch my language when I'm talking about a sports person who's a kid. Right. Who's a young kid in a skirt. Like an inspiration. Or in tight clothes. Like just, it's bordering on paedophilic and it's like,
Starting point is 00:32:10 those things are so, like we were talking earlier on about just not seeing stuff. You just get so tired. You just literally forget all of those things that happen during the day. But it builds up like sort of,
Starting point is 00:32:21 like if you don't wash your hair for a week. Right. That's what it feels like every day with like that sort of stuff happening. You're like, God, like if you don't wash your hair for a week, that's what it feels like every day with like that sort of stuff happening. You're like, God, my hair is so greasy from greasy comments, but you sort of don't notice it slowly getting dirty.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. Ugh, need a wash. I guess I'm not super surprised by this comment just because I guess like 10 years ago, wasn't the Olsen twins turning 18? And Britney Spears. Yeah, celebrated. It was like a thing on the mail talk radio a thing before it wasn't like yeah it wasn't
Starting point is 00:32:46 like a big whoa yeah and that's well because that's i think that's where we're at now is like where you know everyone has to act as a collective correcting mechanism and just be like no no no no but also it's about culture makes things sexy or not sexy right so you see that happening with when it used to be voluptuous figures and during during the nineties, the sexy gamine look was a figures because that was what we put out on magazines. And that's what every, like you become sexualized by what you see. So my friend actually,
Starting point is 00:33:12 Sarah Pascoe has a bit of standup about how you can make, um, you can make people, uh, sexually, uh, attracted to a boot. If you constantly show pictures of boots between porn and every time you
Starting point is 00:33:24 see a boot, it's like, oh yeah, that's a boot. Yeah, Pavlovian. Yeah, exactly. We're more Pavlovian than we think. And so if we constantly sexualize children and high schooled kids and that sort of idea, rather than say
Starting point is 00:33:37 women, sexy women, the idea of a full-bodied, grown-ass woman being sexual, rather than kind of trying to make everyone look young and like babies. Like even a lot of the models we see on TV and in magazines, they look like babies. And then eventually you think babies are sexy. Like that's kind of what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And so what we have to also do is take responsibility for our advertising, what we buy, what we sell, who we put on. It even shows like Riverdale that are sort of like glorifying relationships of teachers and students. When did we start actually focusing on that too? But also the casting of people like say Kate, what's her name? Tom Cruise of the Alien Scientology
Starting point is 00:34:15 movement. Katie Holmes. She was one of the youngest cast members of Dawson's Creek and everyone else was 52. But it was actually really important to have 52 year old experienced actors being teenagers because we just need to see the story. We it was actually really important to have 52-year-old experienced actors being teenagers because we just need to see the story. We don't actually need people
Starting point is 00:34:28 to be 11 at the show. And now you see actors getting younger and younger in a lot of those teen dramas and they're being cast at 14 and you're like, yeah, so you're putting teenagers with sexual stories
Starting point is 00:34:40 but also using actors who sort of don't know their own sexuality yet in these shows and it's constantly sexualising children when you're like, we just need to know the story. It can be played by 22 year olds. So I guess we could view this as progress though. Yeah, well, I think you have to.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I think you have to see all of these moments because it's not moving backwards because that would be absolutely naive. That would be encouraging and being like, yo, did you check out what he said? No, no, no. What I mean is that would be saying naive. That would be encouraging it and being like, yo, did you check out what he said? No, no, no. What I mean is that would be saying, this is already there. This is not something coming out. This was probably being said four months ago on radio and people would have laughed.
Starting point is 00:35:13 400 years ago. No, no, no, but four months ago, but before the Me Too campaign, we're probably only being woke to it now going, oh, we should actually say something now where this person can lose their job for their words. Yeah, totally. So this is very, it's new that we are caring so much.
Starting point is 00:35:27 It's brand new. It's fresh out of the box in the last couple of months that we're caring. Yeah. So it is progress that we go, yes, apologize. Now let's move on and focus on the sport. That is actually a little moment of progress in a tiny way. Yeah. So let's look at the positives of it in a sense.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Because otherwise you'd sort of go. So it's good to maybe see a positive coming out of it. Yes. Apologize, sir. Now watch your language and teach other men. Maybe the most surprising thing. This happened on a Sirius XM show. I didn't know people listened to Sirius XM.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Who does? I thought those are people who get scammed. That's the biggest surprise. You get scammed at the car lot. Right. And we can throw in the Sirius XM too. And you're like, sure. Everybody listen to fucking like Bluetooth over their cell phone now, so there's no need. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:09 So last night, the big winner and the big story was Sean White winning the USA's 100th all-time Winter Olympic gold medal. The NBC commentator said, White is the new gold. Oh, boy. As his score was broadcast.bc i was like keep coming with those hits baby yeah you win you i feel bad because i probably make that joke myself i'm like you know i was not about to do you believe in miracles and white is the new gold the two most iconic calls ever uh but this has kind of brought attention to the fact that NBC and other outlets have been kind of ignoring the fact that Sean White was involved in a sexual harassment lawsuit a couple years back and settled out of court last year in 2017.
Starting point is 00:37:02 And some outlets are publishing some of the details of that and i don't know it's pretty gross like his relationship with this woman who he settled out of court with he has a drummer in his band right so bad things first of all he has a band yeah every every hallmark of a bored rich dude right and the the documents detail this relationship where he kind of oscillates back and forth between treating her like, you know, his little brother. And, you know, it reminded me of being I didn't have brothers growing up, but I had, you know, cousins and I'd go to like basketball camp and room with older kids and they would, you know, put their butt in my face and fart and, you know, cup their balls and put their hands in my face and be like, yo,
Starting point is 00:37:52 smell that bro. And that, and it was fun. I loved, no, but that's, that's the sort of shit that like young adolescent men do to each other. And that's what he like does to her and a lot of these uh
Starting point is 00:38:06 scenes from their relationship uh sending her gross porn and like making her look at gross stuff uh which is you know really uh unprofessional and the point is though is asking someone to stop i think that's what it is because i i work in. I'm a stand-up comedian. I mostly work with men. It's a male-dominated industry. And you work out your line. The point is often about not listening to stop. And that's with everything, you know, because it's so hard when you're working out. Do you want to kiss someone?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Are you having a good time? And you're like, yeah. And then if someone goes stop, then you go okay i'm hearing stop with anything with um for example uh if i kept on joking with you miles about going on a date as a 12 year old and eventually you'd be like you know what ashlyn stop i'd be like oh okay i've taken the joke too far i thought we were having a good time we've reached the limit yeah exactly or you might keep laughing and we might actually have a good time with it and reach a funnier joke. And that's how sometimes you find great fun or great jokes or great laughter or whatever it is. And the point of everything is when at what point someone said stop and you just refuse to listen, because then it turns into harassment.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Right. For example, I have loads of friends who I make lots of sexual jokes with, who I have a very flirty, silly, stupid relationship with, women, men, gay men, gay women and like it's such a lovely way to joke. I grew up in a family who love euphemisms. Well they don't, my mother doesn't really know what euphemisms are, she just kind of puts an energy into her voice like, oh I'll sit down on that chair alright. That's not a euphemism.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But you know, to find sexual humour can be really very funny. It's maybe physically if someone says stop to you or can you leave me alone or also just looking out for the cues. It's so important. The whole point of being a professional comedian is looking for the cues from the audience that they're on board or you're going in the right direction. And again, if that's something you could learn from that. Now, what I would say about this case is two things.
Starting point is 00:40:09 First of all, it was settled out of court. So if it's settled, at a certain point you go, well, at what point in the, yes, that's part of what he's done, but it was settled out of court and the details are out there. If she's not coming out saying, well, he still never learned. Right. Then, and it's unfortunate that he had to go to court for it but also that's the justice system like he has been punished or whatever's happened has happened and that was how many years ago so you would hope that the whole point of um
Starting point is 00:40:36 jail or or someone going to court but anything is that they will learn and not do it again especially uh with a something like this. When it's something more serious, of course you start, if it's rape or murder, you go, that sort of shit doesn't really wash away. That's not something you learn from God.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Sorry, I won't do it again. You know, there. But you do have to sort of, in some way, put a bit of faith in the justice system that you should be allowed to move on. If you got drunk driving when you were 21 and then people are like, oh, he's doing that podcast, but he was actually done for drink driving.
Starting point is 00:41:09 You'd be like, God, that was I'm so sorry about that. But I did do my time or whatever it was. The other thing on the flip side of that is it does make me realize that there's never been a code of conduct with talent. never been a code of conduct with talent. So with sports or acting or singing, anything that's sort of magical to most people where you have to have an innate sort of magical talent, which is the same with performing. There's never been. But to do that, you also need to be kind, turn up to work on time. You know, you can if you're a great sports person, you can be like, well, I wasn't there for training, but I'm still going to do it. Or like whether it's football, it doesn't matter how you behave outside of the pitch as long as you're a really good football player. It doesn't matter how you behave in your trailer as long as you're a magical actor or whether you beat your wife or whatever it is, or whether you're a sexual predator.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It doesn't matter as long as you're really funny and on stage, people still want to come and see your shows. And maybe we're at the shifting point now where there has to start to be a code of conduct yeah right if you're not kind to your co-workers or nice or you shout at people behind stage that doesn't make you able to do your job that doesn't make you the the at what point i think we allow a lot for creativity and talent like maybe they needed to do that to be able to do your job and from now on maybe there's there's starting to be a code of conduct if you're a sports person an actor a comedian you don't just get to be magical you also have to go to work and be kind like everyone else yeah let's do as well in a normal office and I mean this is behavior that we saw from Peyton Manning in the locker room, sort of this like shitty behavior where he's,
Starting point is 00:42:46 it's just clear that he never advanced beyond being a 12-year-old boy. But then Sean White- That has to be nipped in the bud a lot earlier as well. But so he combined that with groping her and trying to kiss her at a party while drunk. And there's also this quote from, they quote a text conversation that they had that was basically their last text conversation.
Starting point is 00:43:07 And the way he treats her is like weird and kind of psychologically fucked up where he's like – she's the drummer in their band. And he's like, I want your hair to be cut short but with your bangs long by tomorrow. And she's like, I really would rather not. Can we talk about this? And he's like, no, that's my final decision. That's what I want your hair long by tomorrow. And she's like, I really would rather not. Can we talk about this? And he's like, no, that's my final decision. That's what I want your hair to look like.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And she's like, uh, I, I'd rather not. And he's like, is that your final decision? So that's what you're telling me. You're telling me you're not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And then like, he fired her from the band, which I don't know. It's just like, it's not criminal behavior, but it, uh, it's bullying. It's bullying. Yeah. And it's true.
Starting point is 00:43:48 What you're saying, Ashley is sort of like, we have a culture here of when you're the talent, you're deified and it's like, well, that's that they're going to do what they do. Like, yeah, they're going to do drugs in the studio or they're going to break rules and we can't say anything because they're the talent. And I think, yeah, it's also a reckoning in general for people to sort of reevaluate. Like, yeah, you may be Sean White and you may be in a band, but this is an employee at the same time. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And that's where this isn't your garage band you started with your mates like when you were 12 years old and dating all the time. You know that where you have this banter already and it's there's a it's a different relationship than one of someone who holds your sort of financial well-being like look how wonderful bill cosby is but i know he like really likes having young girls backstage look how wonderful louis ck is but you know what he's a bit creepy but god he brings the punters in there are people just as good who you can foster and go but they're also kind so let's drop the people who aren't kind and i know that might seem a bit airy fairy but just in terms of a code of conduct, if someone can still do the job as well and start to bring in as much money,
Starting point is 00:44:50 the employers have to enforce it. The fans and people who pay the wages, because we go and we watch these people, we give over our money to Netflix or whatever and we add ratings to whatever show we like. We have to be careful with where we put our cash because that's where our power is. So if a company is bad,
Starting point is 00:45:08 give your money to another company because that is how they hear. That is how companies enforce code of ethics. For example, people boycotting Miramax films, for example, that makes people take women seriously. It's not really feeling sorry for women. It's that you go,
Starting point is 00:45:23 oh, there's a financial risk to this, that our movies, people will stop watching our movies and everything. It isn't really out of a true, it's not purely altruistic for the cause. And that's not the worst thing in the world because it means we as consumers
Starting point is 00:45:37 have a power with who we decide we want to buy our sports drinks from. If someone's attached to a Subway sandwich, so to speak, not that physically attached to If someone's attached to a Subway sandwich, so to speak, not that physically attached to it, but the brand of Subway sandwiches, don't buy them if you don't like that athlete or what it is.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Like you can use your money in quite a positive way if you feel a little lost. I mean, I've always felt like the Subway brand is beyond reproach and all of their spokespeople are, you know, perfect. That was a really odd example for me as well. I've never eaten a Subway sandwich, but it just, uh you know perfect that was a really odd example for me
Starting point is 00:46:05 as well because i i've never eaten a subway sandwich but it just i do you know what i was thinking as well the sports person i was thinking of happy gilmore when he like yeah exactly that's the only sports person in america yeah i mean i think we're seeing this specifically uh you were mentioning weinstein i mean with the weinstein company the district attorney uh in new york ignored the shit out of all this evidence or circumstantial evidence uh for many years and now that journalists have actually it doesn't it doesn't work their favor it doesn't it will cost them more to ignore and right exactly so now they're bringing a case against the weinstein company for enabling it. No one will, for example,
Starting point is 00:46:48 recycle if it doesn't make more financial sense to recycle. For example, if recycling is cheaper than the normal trash collection. So in the UK or in Ireland for example, you have to pay more money to recycle general household waste to put
Starting point is 00:47:04 those trash cans out than you do for your recycling bins. So it pays. And you're like, no, we should really just do it because we should. And you're like, no, people are incentivized financially generally. And so we as consumers have to show companies
Starting point is 00:47:16 in our own little tiny ways, and it's all through micro changes that we make, that it pays to be ethically good in business. So whether that's with the movies you watch or when a lot of companies are now giving, say, 50 cent off if you bring your own cup in to use your coffee and then more people go to those coffee shops. That's how you show companies that the policies of being good or being ethical do pay off.
Starting point is 00:47:39 It'll be tough because some of these companies are just so large. Yeah, but people are so large. People move like bees. Look at the Me Too campaign. It started off as one little hashtag on Twitter and then it brought in people not just from the entertainment industry and I'm not being naive to say everything's fixed or everything's good or it's only been a couple of months
Starting point is 00:47:57 but look at the movement that that has created from just a little hashtag on Twitter. People are very effective at change. We're bees and we move together as a group and, you know, something that happens, hits like this, it's called the Daily Zeitgeist, that Zeitgeist can hit across the world very quickly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You know, like the Doritos campaign, women go, I'm not going to put up with that. Thank you very much. Right. That was just so quick because people move in community. So we can do it by just little changes. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:52:45 Whoa. Where? In Iraq. after. So people in Iraq. I called it Iraq. Iraq. I call it Iraq. I over enunciated. Well, I'm ignorant. So the deal is there since 2007, this market sort of emerged because after all the sanctions that Iraq was hit with during the reign of Saddam Hussein, it kept a lot of consumer goods and consumer electronics out of the country.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So in 2007, as the country started opening up, mobile phones became like the hottest item. And your phone number was like a real sign of prestige. So people like have someone that's like 777-7777. That's like a $20,000 number. And so there are businesses where brokers will have – they have SIM cards already. Like they'll put an ad out. Like they'll put their menu basically of numbers they have you can buy, and they can range from $10 to upwards of tens of thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:53:36 $10 must be like 8, 1, 3, 4, X, Z, J, L, X. And it's with a 5, 5. Capital J. They talk about how in the article there's one guy who is considering getting a new phone number because he thought it was affecting his ability to attract a mate. One of the brokers traded him a $60,000 Lexus for a SIM card with a certain number on it. It's a really interesting read. But by the end of it, one of the main stories is there's this TV producer in the country who wants this one number because it has the most consecutive zeros at the end of it like one of the main stories is there's this tv producer in the country who wants this one number because it has like the most consecutive zeros at the end of it and so he goes to the broker and says i want this number the broker finds the owner of that number and so the the tv executive is willing to pay 120 000 for this sim card for this phone number and so the
Starting point is 00:54:21 broker finds the guy the guy is a police officer just a regular like local like works at the municipality he comes up and says yo this guy is willing to pay you 120k straight up for the sim card right now what's good and he says absolutely not way too low way too low and he's like and it just shows you some of these things to even just a life-changing amount of money he's like no i'm not coming up off this phone number. Like with the red cups in America. Is it a cultural thing that no one has business cards or you can't print business cards? So memory, remembering numbers is like a really important thing. It's really confusing because, you know, back in the mobile phones, like you don't need
Starting point is 00:54:59 to memorize people's numbers. Like I have no idea what anybody except my own and my wife's phone number is because I've never had to memorize numbers since I was like 10 years old. I still know my first one, 085-714-5069. Wow, that's pretty good. My highest phone, 045-42076. You have no way of... Actually, I still remember
Starting point is 00:55:17 mine from when I was a kid. I know Chris Flick's number. I know Ian McMahon's number. I know Megan Hundley's number. I know Kristen Agusa's number. I know Jessica Mundy's number. I know Ian McMahon's number. I know Megan Hundley's number. I know Kristen Agusa's number. I know Jessica Mundy's number. I know everybody's number from up until about 2002. Right. Exactly. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yo, it was gone. We stopped using our brains. I was listening to this wonderful book. I was listening to a book. What? How can that be possible? Audiobooks, folks. Reading with your ears.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Join the revolution. Reading with my ears. And it's Malcolm Gladwell's book, The Outliers. Oh, yeah. And so a lot of it is about, you know, why certain people do well. And we all, especially in America, that one of the big things that you guys have here is like, I came here with nothing. My family came here with nothing. I had nothing.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Zero. Nothing. Nothing. And I'm still managed to succeed. Actually, no one comes here with nothing. still managed to succeed. Actually, no one comes here with nothing. Even if it's just the idea that you came from a family that would be courageous enough to brave the seas to land here,
Starting point is 00:56:09 that's still coming with an energy of entrepreneurial chip or whatever it is. But one of the things he was saying is that, you know, there's that whole thing about Asian people being very good at maths. But in our ears, the amount of numbers we can retain at any one time when we look at something is sort of four to five numbers but a lot of it is to do with um syllables syllables yeah so one
Starting point is 00:56:32 two three four five takes a lot longer to say in english than it does in say for example chinese and so you can actually fit maybe that's one two three or five but you could maybe fit two more numbers in there to memorize because there's just quicker. Well, even in Japanese, you can even break it down. I'm half Japanese. So you can say for Ichi, which is one, you could say I and like you can remember a number like if it's like 153, you could say you can basically use the first syllable or derivations of that. So San could be Sa and you can kind of create words out of it so there's a way to sort of
Starting point is 00:57:09 memorize more numbers quickly so again what you're bringing to the table is it's just easier to memorize more numbers so from a very young age you're taking in numbers more quickly which is just sort of like really fascinating to me that we can do that
Starting point is 00:57:23 because now we don't have to memorize any numbers at all because like you're saying with telephone numbers, we don't. But I just love that idea that like so many things can come into play with memory. But numerology is big in China as well. In Iraq, I don't think numerology is a big thing. For them, it's purely just because that was the first way if since mobile phones were a really big sort of lifestyle item that the next way to differentiate yourself was with the number itself and if that was stylized then that added a little i have to
Starting point is 00:57:56 say when i got my american number here and i went to at&t i went in and she's like now we have um numbers available for my beverly hills and i just like the idea that when I rang my mother for my American number, it would come up as from Beverly Hills. So I kind of said it was just a total status thing. Or maybe I'm as bad. Is it a 424 number? Yes, it is. And see, local L.A. people will be like, you're new. You've got that expansion area.
Starting point is 00:58:22 You don't have that legacy 310. You don't have that 213. new yeah you got that expansion area you don't have that legacy 310 you have that 213 um yeah but it's it's just interesting because mobile phones are like the first technology that enters like these countries like in africa for instance has had this really advanced like mobile phone payment system called m pesa which is just like m for mobile and Pesa is Swahili for money. Since 2007, America's just getting Venmo. They've been Venmoing each other like on mobile phones. And like that's been their primary form of payment since 2007.
Starting point is 00:58:57 This M-Pesa thing is like spread to other countries. And they're like way ahead of the rest of the world because mobile phones were like the first technology to come in and they came in before credit cards even so that's like they had this really advanced mobile phone payment system and it's just interesting like iraq having like these numbers be really important it's just like hitting them at a certain time when for whatever reason like that's what well yeah the article they say the toppling of hussein also shattered the type political and business class that it surrounded him creating opportunities for savvy entrepreneurs and ambitious would-be power brokers so to project
Starting point is 00:59:34 status and sophistication they needed the right tools an impressive phone number became indispensable it's so funny though because i don't i understand a phone being a status symbol or a car when you can show it outwardly it's just again numerology i don't think is important in iraq and uh i don't understand how you show your number is really you never say your number out loud anymore unless you're saying put this into your phone and then you never say it again right i think that's the thing is like so even when you dictate it someone goes oh shit you were one three zero zero zero zero type guy my number is zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero yeah you will make a good husband uh and then fascinating just real quick before we go we wanted to talk about – so yesterday I guess Kirsten Gillibrand announced that she would not be taking any PAC money.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Corporate PAC money, yeah. Corporate PAC money, right. And then hours later Cory Booker was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. And apparently Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. They've all been doing it for a while. They've all been doing it. So it's very clear like we now know who's going to run for president. Yeah. I'm ignorant to this story. Could you explain it a bit more? So like, you know, the corporate PACs, there are ways for
Starting point is 01:00:53 corporations to put large sums of money into these groups and funnel them into campaigns versus like individual donors. The Senate, they don't rely as much on corporate PACs as much as House candidates do. But essentially, it's a way for them to say, I'm not going to accept AT&T's money or I'm not going to – I'll accept the head of AT&T's money. But I will not be getting specifically traceable PACs. From the company. I will be taking Greg who heads them. And trade groups put them together. So like if it's the American Medical Association, they have a PAC that they give money to and things like that. So by them doing that, it's a way for them to distance themselves by saying, look, finance laws here are completely fucked and they've completely destroyed our political system.
Starting point is 01:01:30 So this is their way of saying I'm above the fray. I'm not going to do that. And look at me. I'm woke. So it was interesting because, yeah, literally hours after Kirsten Gillibrand said she's not doing, Cory Booker's like, oh, me too. Me too. I'm not going to take it either. So we're starting to see that.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Where were they not going to take money from? From corporate PACs. From corporate PACs. Yeah. So to say that I'm not sullied by corporations. I'm a pure politician who's here. Like another Bernie Sanders sort of. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Bernie has been doing that for a while. Elizabeth Warren has been doing that for a while. Martha Canwell has been doing that for a while. But it's starting to see like because Gillibrand and Booker and Warren, they're all looking like sort of potential candidates for 2020. So it's interesting to see people sort of like fall in line. But then again, like if do we mind if all of a sudden it looks like it pays to be good? It'll benefit you to be good. I have no problem with it.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I think it's great. It's just funny that like within hours, it just sort of shows. We're trying to see people's motivations. You want to make sure you're on board. Getting a little presidential in advance. We're getting in that racing stance. I'm not sullied, although over the years he's taken plenty of money. But you have to in this game.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Look, there's no way to win without fucking taking this money. Whoever it ends up being, I hope they go back to taking corporate money once they're in the general election. They can be all woke and shit when they're going against each other. You're just worried, please don't get blown out in an ad spend war with the Trump campaign. Right, exactly.
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Starting point is 01:03:23 the start of my USL so I feel like you've got a lot to go on there guys to start sniffing around What am I doing? Oh, a drama I'm in in the UK called Hard Sun which is by the guy Neil Cross who created Luther and that will be
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Starting point is 01:04:37 That is going to do it for today, Miles. Is there anything that you would like us to write out? I'm just feeling real you know it's a romantic day romantic night uh so play this listen to this voice yeah you know you're tuning into the smooth sounds of miles gray uh and we got a remix of a serge gainsbourg track uh the ballad which is a remix by howie b and know, it's just got that little vibe. It's a remix, though. It's not the original, Mom, but just relax and put the candles on.
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