The Daily Zeitgeist - How Much Election F*ckery? Twizzlers Vs. RedVines 11.09.22

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

In episode 1369, Jack and Miles are joined by hosts of The Stoop, Hana Baba and Leila Day, to discuss… Election Day F*ckery…What’s Happening So Far (That We Know Of), Is It Time For a Media / So...cial Media Blackout Around Election Day? Movie Theatre Candy Could Unite America and more! Election Day F*ckery…What’s Happening So Far (That We Know Of) These Counties Already Want a Recount and the Votes Aren’t Even In Yet The Disturbing Things You Hear at a GOP Rally in a Swing State Fox Host: Don’t Believe “Lies” About Delayed Results Movie Theatre Candy Could Unite America This Viral List of Favorite Movie Candies in Each State Sparked a Tense Debate: ‘We’re Better Than This’ LISTEN: Vamanos by Elkin & NelsonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 262, episode 3 of Dear Daily Psych-y! Staying in production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it's Wednesday, November 9th, 2022, which is our annual, biannual Schroediger's Cat episode where we don't know what has happened because we're recording this before y'all are listening to it. So, you know, it may be a theocracy. The red wave may have not materialized. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Yeah. Who knows? But what we do know is 11-9, National Scrapple Day. National Louisiana Day. Okay, just put that on your calendar. National Scrapple Day. And that is, we decided that was very regional, right? Yeah, I mean, we don't eat scrapple out here.
Starting point is 00:02:58 That's for sure. I mean, as a Californian, I know of scrapple from people further afield in the United States. Yeah. It's a Philly, South Jersey, you know, just a waste meat extraction. A waste meat that somehow they normalized it in the Philly area. I'm going to have to try it. And people are still gobbling it down. Yeah, love waste meat.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Love waste meat. Love a good waste meat. Love waste meat. Love a good waste meat. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Last Time Here Before. Couldn't look him in the eye. He's just so goddamn old. His skin makes me cry. And now my boy Federman is getting wrecked in these ads. I want decent health care. Just some fucking health care.
Starting point is 00:03:50 But I'm a freak. I'm some weirdo. How the fuck are we get Lambo? I don't belong here. I guess I'm just some freak. You know, I guess I'm just some freak who wants health care. Anyways, that is courtesy of Mr. Lugubrious Lex Lugio on Twitter, who asked, if you're leaving Twitter, how do we do AKAs?
Starting point is 00:04:15 I think I'm going to have to join the Discord. I think that's my next step. I'm also not leaving Twitter. I'm going to stay in and watch it burn down around me personally. Oh, you want to be the meme of everything's fine. Everything's fine here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Starting point is 00:04:32 co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Gray from Southern California where the winning Powerball ticket was sold. It's your boy the Blackanese experimental visual artist, your boy kusama who did not win the powerball ticket but i know where it was sold and we know it was sold in the
Starting point is 00:04:51 area place i'm i've seen before i've driven past in my life and it's so funny this morning i was like what if i bought it and won and i was i was trying to think of how long i could go without telling anybody that i actually won it well now, now you're teasing. It seems like you're teasing that you did buy it and win. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. We shall see. That's not the only thing we don't know today. We don't know who won as of yet.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I just hope it's like a VC, a venture capital fund that bought like 300,000 tickets. Right. That game just snatched them up. That's who I want to see a win for. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined once again in our third and fourth seat by two of the most brilliant hosts doing it in podcasting, the audio arts, among many other things.
Starting point is 00:05:39 They are the hosts of the truly great award-winning podcast, The Stoop. It's Leela Day and Hanababa. What's up, you guys? Hey, hey. Hello, hello. We are here. You are here.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Thank you for having us again. Yes. Thank you for being on whilst I am here. Yeah. So that's, I'm glad we're able to connect. We were talking before, you ducked Miles last time. You said, are there any episodes that Miles won't be on? Could we come on that just to get our feet wet? Make sure we're up to it. How are y'all doing though? Where are you coming to us from today?
Starting point is 00:06:15 Cali in California. Both of us in California. I am in the north in the Bay Area, the Yay Area. And I'm in LA. In the north, in the Bay Area, the Yay Area. The Yay Area, yeah. Okay. And I'm in LA. Okay. And it's raining. So another candidate who may have bought the Powerball ticket. We don't know. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah, we're not saying. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for that too. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also not telling whether I bought it. Do you think, okay. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:45 obviously we didn't win it, but how long do you think speak for yourself? What would, okay, fine. Thought experiment, Jack, in case you want it or anyone,
Starting point is 00:06:53 what would your strategy, if you won that 2 billion, would you be hushabye about it and get everything in order, get rid of it. So before anybody can hit you up for anything, but like I gave so much of it away, I'm sorry, there's no more money there. Or how would you go about it?
Starting point is 00:07:07 Because I think every person does this, has the thing like, what would I do if I won? I'm more interested in like the mechanics of winning and who you tell or don't tell and what you do with it. Yeah, I would be hushabye just because I like that phrase. I would be all hushabye. I like hushabye, yeah. I would be hush hush too, definitely hush.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah. What would you do, Hannah? I mean, I'm thinking. I probably would tell the world and then regret it the next day. We're talking about the woodwork. But that first day. Ooh. That first day I got to tell people.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Not on Twitter, but elsewhere. Yeah, right. In my WhatsApp chats. Uh-oh. All the fams. All the family in Africa. They're going to know. They're going to want their share.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And then the next day I'll regret it. Right. I think California has a law that you have to say, you have to name yourself. You can't be an anonymous woman. I don't think you can be anonymous. I think if you if you buy the ticket through i i think that's right i that might i i think i did very lazy research on this
Starting point is 00:08:11 one time the one time that we bought the powerball ticket oh no yeah you got to reveal yourself yeah you got to reveal yourself the one time before this time when I may or may not have bought a wedding ticket. What about an alias? Yeah. Can we do an alias? Right. I'm probably. That's why they wear the masks and stuff. They go on and they're wearing masks. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And they're like, my name is Beep Johnson. Right. Beep Johnson. They don't want that attention. Yeah. Beep Macrame. Yeah. That's what I would say is my name.
Starting point is 00:08:42 All right. Well, we are going to get to know you both a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to talk about what we do know about Election Day so far, which is yesterday. Just fuckery. We know there was some fuckery. Yeah, attempts at it for sure. I'm going to ask if it's time for a media, social media blackout around election day like other countries have and then we're just going to dive into stupid stuff like movie theater candy i mean it's not stupid actually
Starting point is 00:09:12 it's an important stuff wakanda forever drops in two days it's important what we are going to be eating at the movie theaters but before we get to any of it we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history you know i was right this morning digging in my search history and the one of the last things i searched was can an egg fry on the sidewalk oh yeah right because i grew up in las vegas and i always would tell people i kind of brag like, yeah, we can fry eggs on the sidewalk. We can fry eggs on the sidewalk. And I said that to someone the other day, and they go, can you really fry an egg on the sidewalk? And I go, yeah, we used to do it as a kid because we'd put them out there, and they would kind of get bubbly, but I don't ever remember it frying.
Starting point is 00:09:56 So I Googled it, and it said the temperature has to be 158 degrees for an egg to fry. And sidewalks can reach up to 145 degrees but i don't really think so yes i know we're almost there what about blacktop though because the color would retain more right exactly that's what i was thinking i lived in houston when i was little and the weatherman always used to take an egg on his little weather cast and crack it on the sidewalk and it would fry. So we have been lied to from that time. Movie magic.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I mean, even the weatherman in Houston. Well, I think we're headed in that direction though. I don't think it's a fixed upper limit for how hot the sidewalk gets.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I think we're, come on, climate change. Let's fry some eggs. And then the one that I always heard when I lived in cold places was that it's so cold that you can spit and your spit will freeze before it hits the ground. Did y'all ever hear that? No, but is that true? I think it's also a lie. I think it's the ground. Did y'all ever hear that? No, but is that true? I think it's also a lie. I think it's, yeah. There is a level of cold
Starting point is 00:11:11 where you can feel your tear ducts freezing, but I don't think that the freezing happens so quickly that it will freeze before it hits the ground. I think I also lazily Googled that. Like, well, like if you put pressure like near your tear duct, like you could expel like an icicle from you that's terrible so disgusting the visual that feels like yeah it just feels like body horror like yeah like my insides are turning to icicles that i could i will never
Starting point is 00:11:36 live in a place that cold i'm gonna search that on the tiktok yeah right yeah no i just like that it's like almost like a 9-11 style conspiracy theory with the sidewalk. It's like, well, a sidewalk can only get to 158 degrees. Therefore, it cannot melt steel beams. And you're like, whoa, okay. Uh-oh. Get you started. How about you, Hana?
Starting point is 00:11:59 Okay, for me, and this is for all my fellow chemo brains out there our brains get foggy sometimes and there's certain memories that like i can't remember if it was a dream or if it really happened to me and so last night i had this distinct memory of seeing Prince on stage, but it was just like at George Mason University's auditorium, which could not have been true, but I have this memory of that. So I often have to Google, I have to go to Google to see if my memory was right or not. Sure enough, George Mason University in January 2000, the amazing Prince held a concert in that auditorium. It was a time when he used to pick these obscure, weird little spaces that no one would really know about. So not really stadiums. That's why I was like this this has got to have
Starting point is 00:13:05 been a dream but it turned out to be true i i actually googled it did prince play george mason university oh wow and you got to go to that that's amazing uh yeah i was there apparently apparently yeah jack did you did you ever go to and like the what was it the 21 night stand how many nights was it at the at the forum yeah there was a there was a lot of nights in a row and i missed every single one it was like right when i just moved out album are we talking about i think no it's called the 21 night stand. And it was all in LA. Like this was in 2011-ish. It was the forum, right?
Starting point is 00:13:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like they were doing like, I remember my dad three times. Yeah, everybody was going and telling me to go. And I was like, I just moved here. Like this probably happens all the time in LA. I guess we do a 21 night run of shows. Yeah. I also do a 21-night run of shows. I love it here.
Starting point is 00:14:10 But everybody who went, you were constantly running into people who were like, did you go last night? It was the best show I've ever seen. People's lives were changed. Let's stick with you, Hana. What is something you think is overrated? Alright,
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm going to do another one. I know I'm going to getrated? All right, I'm going to do another one. I know I'm going to get dragged and I know I'm going to get slammed, but sparkling water and or mineral water. Why? Just why? I still don't understand it. It's not just that I don't like it. I don't see the necessity. Wow. Why? Why not just water? Carbonated water is a frivolous pursuit. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I see. It bothers me to be asked sparkling or still. Of course still. Anyway. I just get confused. They say sparkling or still or flat. Don't they say flat too? I'm just like, what is? Just give me the water.
Starting point is 00:15:09 And now it's flat old sparkling water that you let get flat. And now you're serving to me as that? Or is it? Totally overrated. All the shows with the posh women with their sparkling water. I can't, I can't stand it anymore. And that's my story. And I'm sticking to it.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Okay. Now tell me, Hanal, does this come from, for you, you're like, if things have bubbles in it, there better be flavor. Thank you. Yes. I'm asking, is that sort of the logic path? A little bit, yes. I just think water should not be messed with. Water is water is water and it shouldn't be messed around with and that's all.
Starting point is 00:15:44 And you're right. If it's bubbly give me some limonada flavor or something make it a soap please thank you okay i'm mad like it's like sort of the way my mom would talk about it for being from japan where she's like i don't understand why people drink bubble water she's like it's water you need water i love your mom and she had she's very like rigid thing of she's like, oh, no. If you offered her sparkling, she's like, uh-uh. Make a show of it.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And there's this assumption that it's the bougie water. Like, of course you want it. I'm being generous and giving you the sparkling water. Right, right, right. Not like the peasant water. Right. You know what I just found out also is that seltzer water and like all those things have carbonic acid in it. I have a friend who's a dentist and they were like, yeah, don't drink like bubbly water and think it's the same as drinking regular water. It's really
Starting point is 00:16:41 bad for your teeth, like carbonic acid. So another mark against it. Thank you, dentist. And Miles' mom. Yes. They can be on the WhatsApp chat. Yeah. Leela, what is something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:17:03 I know that y'all will relate to this, Miles i know you'll relate to this but collagen creams collagen creams for the face thank you right i know say less i know i thought it was gonna be an audio thing let me tell you why though let me tell you why there have been multiple studies that have shown that these creams with collagen why applied on your skin they're the molecules aren't big enough to penetrate into your skin. It's been like proven and studied and all these things, yet it's like crazy how much it is available and how many people are buying it and how many people are living by it. You got to buy this cream. You got to buy this cream. And yeah, I just feel like now every time I see it, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:17:41 uh-uh, this is scam. I'm not going to fall for the okey-doke. This collagen cream don't work. But I might try the ingestible like liquid collagen. What about you guys? Are you guys using collagen at all? Well, as you know, I tried to sell you my personal brand of collagen cream before we started recording. So I am feeling a little attacked right now, but I don't use it. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:18:04 It's a complete snake oil. But I'm a royal little attacked right now, but I don't use it. Absolutely not. It's a complete skate snake oil, but I'm a royal jelly person myself. Oh, yeah. So that's how it looks great. Both of y'all. I mean, some say it's genetics. I would agree probably that it's genetics, but I like to say it's from rubbing these jellies on my face. Wait, what is royal jelly?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Jelly face. Hey, jelly face. what is royal jelly jelly face hey jelly face what is royal jelly royal jelly is like i i know because in japan like in asian like skincare products people are going wild for royal jelly like it's like comes from honeybees it's like a secretion where they're like oh like it's fantastic for i don't all i know is royal jelly was a big fad i remember witnessing as a kid and like my mom and aunts were like royal jelly and then i just saw bees on the cover and i know it's from bees but apparently the people talk about it for skin and their skin is amazing today yeah look or you know just go with whatever cindy crawford is using dr obagi that i see late at night on tv when i leave the tv that's called surgery
Starting point is 00:19:05 don't follow these celebrities right who knows what they do in them clinics yeah seriously what is something leela that you think is underrated i also think you guys would totally relate to this, but I'm thinking about this. Yes. The jerry curl. Oh, yeah. The jerry curl. I just feel like the jerry curl didn't have, it's the moment that it needed to have to actually thrive. I mean, you think about it. The jerry curl added texture.
Starting point is 00:19:41 It added shine. It was a great, you know, do you guys remember like coming to America, you know, soul glow. I was just going to ask if it, if that was so iconic that it like hurt the Jerry Crow. That it hurt the brand.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah. That it hurt the brand because it was so just like thorough and funny and timeless. That like Jerry Crow curls never bounced back, so to speak. Bounced back! I mean, I hear you. That might be, you might have something there
Starting point is 00:20:13 because I just feel like we're always talking about people want looser curls. They want more moisture in their hair and the Jerry curl did that. But everyone that had a Jerry curl at one point was completely criticized for it and made fun of right yeah the so glow and all that kind of stuff in actuality it's like what a lot
Starting point is 00:20:32 of people are trying to aspiring that curl pattern a lot of people are trying to aspire for it to get so i'm like the jerry curl can we bring it back can we rebrand it right because it it really was like this like punchline in black comedy for a long time like i remember even like in in living color there was always like it was always a character was too much activator trying to spray everything around them i remember there's like people would talk the joke was always like everything's greasy now with people getting their activator juice everywhere and even like in coming to america the stains that the family left when they got on the back of the couch oh my god yes so i wonder if like yeah the like if comedy or just like pop culture just took it to a place where we're like lack because
Starting point is 00:21:14 i mean our ice cube had a jerry crow everybody had a jerry crow yeah like even if they just called it something else like le chalet coulet french or something you cool a it needs the right celebrity to bring it back like not ice cube not ice cube it can't be because I feel like Bruno Mars was kind of rocking it for a little bit but like that wasn't who we need it from we need like Kendrick to drop his next album with a wild Jerry curl. That would be nice. That would be a great look. I feel like, yeah, the way it came back, at least for me, was S curl.
Starting point is 00:21:55 I remember in the early aughts, I had a lot of homies who were rocking the S curl. Who had that texturizer. That was just a little less you know but it's still shiny and a little bit of a looser curl a bit more texture looking like texture but still pretty tight to the wet wet looking yeah and wet wet wet yeah yeah for sure i was gonna say like you know i i feel like pulp fiction tried to reclaim you know it it tried to reinvigorate the it did the curl harm yeah but yeah is it sam jackson and john you couldn't take him seriously jerry curl and john travolta both tried to make a comeback and only travolta actually got the comeback
Starting point is 00:22:38 from that movie that's sad that's sad that's j curl. Who had the best one? Rick James? Rick James. Rick James had a long curl. Good, yeah. Long, drippy curl. I mean, I still feel like Eric LaSalle in Coming to America. Eric LaSalle's, yeah. It's everything I wanted it to be.
Starting point is 00:23:02 But then that big wet stain, I feel like, fucked it up. Like, after you saw that, you were like, well, that seems impractical. And, like, he was evil. And so you associated that with the bad guy. It was, like, both vain and also, like, he was kind of whack. So, like, it was a bad combo. The New Edition guys did a good job of a jerry curl, I think. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:24 They were cute. So long ago, right? There's no current jerry curl i think right they were cute so long ago right what's there's no current jerry curl there's no version bring it back bring it back yeah somebody be be brave and bring back the jerry curl please i know what's something you think is underrated uh mine is gonna be more serious and less funny i'm sorry but I've been trying to convince so many people around me and of my people in immigrant communities around me to vote. And people still do not understand fully or appreciate the power they have. And it's just the most, I think it's so highly underrated in, in, in kind of my, my immediate kind of black, black immigrant, African immigrant communities. There's this
Starting point is 00:24:14 feeling of what is my vote going to do? Right. There's this feeling of like what actual change can happen from me getting up and filling this thing out and going you know it's it feels like the system has been formulated to kind of keep people that way yeah there needs to still be education a lot of education and when i say education i don't mean just like these things that you see flashing on your screen, people going into communities and sitting down with people and saying, if you vote in this election, it will affect your life and the life of your children in this way, A, B, C, in a culturally competent way of speaking, lingu you know appropriate whatever they need to do but that effort is not there so for me sadly today on this day my my underrated thing is just voting and and more
Starting point is 00:25:17 people need to appreciate that right and i also want to call out my immigrant friends who, you know, can't wait to get the citizenship. Right. It's a privilege. It's a high privilege to become a citizen of this country. A lot of people don't realize that when you're kind of born into it. But the things people have to go through to get citizenship in this country, it's a long road. It's hard. It's harsh. Mentally, it's taxing. And for you to have gone that far and stopped short of one of the
Starting point is 00:25:57 rights that have been fought for for generations, right? Blood, sweat, and tears. It just, it feels wrong to me. It's like there's something missing there. People are so excited to become citizens and then this sacred right, it's just like they don't feel they're worthy or they don't have a voice. I don't know what it is, but that's my,
Starting point is 00:26:20 sorry, it's a downer. No, I mean, and I also really like the idea of using history or like using specific examples of like here's an election that affected your life or like the people in your community's lives right that people people still there just wasn't the turnout yeah they don't get it or they feel like their vote is really not wanted, like it's not needed, is not wanted or the suppression. Right. Right. All of it at the same time. Or just this this idea that goes into conspiracy theory world. But everything is set before election day anyway. I hear that so much. Right. Like it's all planned by these forces and this system and little old me is not going to change a thing. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's just like this perspective, right?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Because you could rightly say, well, I don't know. I've lived here for X amount of years. We've been worried about the same thing for decades. And it's actually worse off than when I first got here. That like would reinforce that kind of someone to become completely apathetic and not want to participate. And that's what's like so insidious, right, is because on one hand, there's like this hope it offers people from abroad.
Starting point is 00:27:33 And then there's also this like very fucked up part of American culture, which is reflecting to many people who don't look like, you know, white Christian America. Yeah, your needs are like tertiary at best and it's wild how that feeds into it when at the same time it's really about connecting people to understand too like this is this is part of it i know it feels like that but there's also a there's also more and more to it than simply just throwing our hands up and saying like this it is what it is and it's what it's always going to be. Debbie Downer just brought the whole show down. Wah, wah, wah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Sorry. We're about to take a break and talk about it. It is that day. We're going to go further now, don't worry. We don't know the results, but we do know the process and it's fucked up. So let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And it's fucked up. So let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
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Starting point is 00:29:33 Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties
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Starting point is 00:30:46 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way
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Starting point is 00:32:57 We do know there was lots of fuckery, though. So let's just dig into that. The day of fuckery. Yeah. though so on the day let's just dig into that and the day of fuckery yeah i mean just to start off in florida uh the department of justice is like sending like poll watchers you know election observers around the country to you know check on some stuff to see if there's anything completely untoward and governor desantis in florida has been basically trying to prevent them from observing the election even even though like the Florida like
Starting point is 00:33:25 state laws say the only people that can enter a polling place if you're not voting is law enforcement. And they're like, well, these people from the Department of Justice are just they're not if they're they're we're going to redefine them as poll watchers for this. So they are not allowed in. I'm not sure where any of that has shaken up, but there's been a lot of attention on South Florida and federal observers there. Georgia, I think, is a really big state to talk about because they have gone all in on
Starting point is 00:33:50 voter suppression in the wake of the 2020 election. Governor Kemp, you know, has this SB 202 was the bill and was basically saying, like, don't worry with this bill. It's actually going to be so much easier to vote. And it's actually if you're a cheater, that's who has to worry because it is going to be so hard to cheat. Obviously, what all this looks like now is just laws that are nearly tailor made to suppress the vote in like black, urban or college town areas where there's younger voters, because that's truly how they're trying to eke out these margins. If they can suppress those blocks, then maybe they have a numerical advantage. And the law actually encouraged individuals to like challenge the validity of registrations. Tens of thousands of voter registrations have been challenged. Most like have been completely thrown out those challenges, luckily.
Starting point is 00:34:39 But again, showing you that this is the kind of chaos that the bill that the bill is meant to. So like on the day, just to keep people not sure about their own voter registration. But so far, the turnout in Georgia has been at historic levels and people seem undeterred despite that, which I think is always a good thing, rather than people, you know, kind of throwing their hands up and saying, well, fuck it. They're trying to make sure that I can't vote anyway. So that is moving in a somewhat positive direction. But you add to that shortened times to request an absentee ballot, increased ID requirements, and the fact that it's illegal for election officials to even preemptively just send ballots out to people just is another way
Starting point is 00:35:20 they're trying to get every single numerical advantage right now. So it's not insignificant because when you look at absentee ballots, that's a huge hit for students, you know, and the elderly and people who have other mobility issues or medical conditions that don't allow them to vote in person. So taking that whole block out is, you know, was with a very intentional purpose. And all done to avoid voter fraud, which study after study has indicated doesn't exist in any significant sense. But it motivates like millions and millions of dollars and hours of work to avoid it just because it's a it's like a mean narrative for the right. Yeah. Yeah. And everything's been super conspiracy theory heavy
Starting point is 00:36:07 there's this woman this like she's like a walking conspiracy theory running for secretary of state in michigan her name's christina caramo she tried to cite the dinesh de souza fucking fantasy like conspiracy documentary 2000 mules to try and pretty much argue that like, you know, actually all of Detroit's votes need to be contested or thrown out just based on what I've seen. The judge luckily laughed her out of the courtroom. Uh, but, but they tried it along with like clearly on its face, absurd material that does not reflect reality. But people are like really like full voice coming into a court and be like, this document. I mean, it's laying it out there. Like so we have serious concerns about this and any conflicts of interest that might arise out of all of that. In Arizona, there are already counties that are trying to audit the vote, challenge this vote.
Starting point is 00:36:57 They're like and go to the whole thing that they want to get like a hand recount. Then this has been a huge thing for the for MAGA people is to get in on this like hand like hand hand recount. Then this has been a huge thing for the, for MAGA people is to get in on this, like hand, like hand counted ballots, you know, they say voting Amish or whatever. And the whole thing is because they believe the computers have Venezuelan malware that's against white supremacy.
Starting point is 00:37:18 So we gotta, we gotta just, you know, use our hands to count this. But just so you know, hand counts are fucking bad. OK, a 2018 study found that when you do a hand count, it's less accurate than machine counts, obviously. And they've also found in previous counts that there's around a two percent error
Starting point is 00:37:37 rate, which is not insignificant when you're dealing with like hundreds of thousands or millions of votes that could easily put an election one way or the other. So there is a lot. And again, this all helps down. This all helps to slow down the announcement of a winner, which is that. And it's that period where the freaks like Rudy Giuliani get to do their shit stirring song and dance to get the base to reject the election and that's we're definitely seeing that playbook basically kind of you know showing its face all over again in these midterms it's interesting to watch brazil's election because in both cases they voted in the morning
Starting point is 00:38:18 and at night the results were in yeah and it was i think they have more like Yeah. into the system for a reason you know it's like it's purposeful yeah it helps people it helps the media like uh around the around the world for the most part like by law the french observe a period of no electoral press coverage starting 44 hours before an election in the uk tv and radio stations are prohibited from covering the election when the polls are open. So at least during voting, you're not allowed to be putting wild conspiracy theories out on the air, or at least that's how it would affect America. Many countries, there's a blackout period ranging from one to 10 days before an election
Starting point is 00:39:19 in which opinion polls may not be publicly released. But it really feels like social media needs to like come together and the this will probably not happen unless there is some sort of tragedy or act of violence but needs to come together and be like we're not allowing people to you know spread misinformation about elections like as the elections are happening, because it's, it's just, it's just getting worse and worse and it's going to keep getting worse and worse. And I don't know that there's anything, I mean, maybe a social media ban doesn't even, doesn't even fix it, but it does.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I mean, I wish a social media ban would fix white supremacy like that, but I'm not sure it will, because you know what we're witnessing too, is this the Republicans biggest fears are coming true, like as a party or like as an ideology. Right. That they that their idea of America is not any means necessary, even if that means disinformation and political violence. The thing that I want to point out is like you go on Fox News, right? All conservative media is telling their base is that we got this. There's no stopping the red wave unless there's massive fraud. That's the only way we lose this one, y'all. That's that message is being really consistently reinforced from the pundits down to the candidates. So if anything resembling even a purple wave happens, there's going to be a lot of hurt feelings or, you know, they'll be able to weaponize this sort of ill-informed expectation of viewers to then say, well, you know what? Probably massive fraud. And that's why we need to begin challenging all these other elections. I'm just going to play this clip
Starting point is 00:41:09 really quick so you can hear about this is Jesse Waters on Fox basically saying, like, it's going to be a red wave, folks. It's going to be a red wave. And the horse track won't be the only place we see a historic beatdown this week. We're less than 24 hours from the first polls closing in the midterm elections, and Republicans are charging for the finish line. Are we looking at one of the biggest red waves in American history? Well, in 2010, Obama lost Democrats 63 seats in the House. In 1994, Clinton dropped 54. In 2018, Trump lost 40. All of them had higher approval ratings than Biden does right now. So what happens tomorrow? Anything over 40 House seats is a big wave.
Starting point is 00:41:54 The first polls close at around seven. And Bill Hemmer tells me that if Republicans pick up at least two of the three House seats in Virginia, that means we're looking at a massive wave. up at least two of the three house seats in virginia that means we're looking at a massive wave and don't listen to the lies they're spewing that this could take days or days you know to know who won this is total bs a wave like this we should know that that night basically who won the senate in the house anything that happens wednesday into thursday is gravy okay so using like like political precedent or historical precedent to say, like, you know, midterms usually go the other way, but also not like completely ignoring the fact how much more enthusiasm there is from Democrats, because like people are seeing an incredible erosion of their like their out to vote against them. But again, just doing a whole thing of like, don't buy this stuff that they have to count these other spooky votes somewhere. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Oh yeah. Please, please chime in. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:42:53 This whole show is please. Yeah. It's for you to try. Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's been, I think when you look at that and him really trying to tell people just
Starting point is 00:43:00 ignore everything else, it's gotta be a win. That's what really freaks me out. And that's, that's what I was talking about earlier. So they're sending this message out to their people, but everybody hears it. You know, this idea of, oh, it's done. Oh, it's a Republican wave. It's a red wave. This is, you know, historically has been the election where the dominant party in charge is punished. Therefore, you know, I mean, it should be, therefore I need to go out and vote, but then it becomes, therefore, you know, if this is already happening, then why do I need to go?
Starting point is 00:43:39 Why do I need to be a part of this? And if it's already set up beforehand. And so this idea of a red wave, it's, it's like, it's not just a dog whistle for Republicans. I feel like it also affects, it affects everybody who's, who's hearing these messages. And honestly, you know, going back to I come from Sudan, you know, a dictatorship. And these tactics remind me of what was happening in Sudan around elections. Whenever elections did happen, it's these same kinds of tactics. folks are taking you know are kind of looking at what what these other dictatorships theocracies are doing and taking a page out of their playbooks it's just it's also eerily familiar right oh yeah yeah i mean the i i think there are many ways many ways that the right and the republican party has doubled down on authoritarianism and there's the massive history to to pull from when it comes to that and a massive
Starting point is 00:44:52 present to pull from to see like what's what's working in the present tense in countries that have social media and authoritarianism or anti-democratic power structures in place. Yeah. But even this idea y'all were saying about how other countries sort of shut down media to comment on any sort of commentary within days before an election, even that would be considered extremely authoritarian and draconian if that ever happened in this country, right? I can't even see that even flying, although I'm completely 100% on the side of that should be something that happens, even just to see the outcome of an election. But I don't know if you guys think that's even something that would be a possibility here. I just don't think it would even be considered, especially when you have someone like Elon Musk right now saying that the voices of Twitter should be held as the authority and not really journalistic kind of opinion is overrated.
Starting point is 00:46:05 kind of opinion is overrated. And so I feel like we're going more and more in the direction of it being all for one, one for all. Everyone kind of can weigh in on this. And I just don't ever see that happening in this country. Yeah, I think you're right. At the same time, we're both journalists, Leela and I, and this idea of this war on journalists, right? Like this idea of don't believe them. or like, quote unquote, as you were saying earlier, mainstream media, you better, you know, be discerning and be careful who you listen to. And at some point, you know, Trump was calling for hurting journalists, as we remember. And continues to. So it's all this war of war of information and who to believe and who not to believe. And it's getting messier and messier on social media. I mean, I'm a person who honestly,
Starting point is 00:46:53 I have not been on Twitter as much to preserve my own sanity and mental health. But, you know, but it's a place that millions and millions of people rely on for information every single day. And that's scary to me. Yeah, I don't I don't think that Elon Musk is going to turn around and be like, this election was a mess. We're going to I'm going to forego like any any electoral tweets like will be stopped by by Twitter. I just think that it's valuable for Americans to know that there is another way, that other countries don't view that as authoritarian. They just view that as a better function of the media.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And when you look at how American media covers electoral politics, it's so focused. It's like suddenly the mainstream media turns into ESPN and it's all just about covering who's winning. Oh, he just got owned in that debate because he's from a stroke you know oh no way like what yeah it's just all it's all covering the horse race i mean they they talk about that what i worked at abc news for the uh 2004 election and they had this big like town hall meeting ahead of the election where they were like, how do we cover things in a way that isn't just covering the horse race? And then like what, you know, us, our coverage becomes coverage of our coverage of the horse race, because it's like, okay, this narrative is picking up. So now we have to, now we're all talking about the narrative around the narrative and it just becomes this complete mess that's all just designed to create intrigue, but it actually has created a system that is very confusing, is very alienating to people
Starting point is 00:48:58 wondering why they should vote. And I think just, you know... Anx anxiety inducing. Yeah. If there were 10 days before the election where the mainstream media and Fox News like had to just not cover the election. Like, I wonder if that would change overall how they covered things, you know, like what. Or everybody should be listening to public radio and watching public media not a play at all yeah but we're quieter we'll get you the information without a lot of the inflammatory kind of side stuff we go deeper than a lot of these channels and because we're just you know we don't have to run to the commercial, right? We don't have to kind of satisfy that, that, that sponsor look at Lila smiling. She's like, and I'll put in a plug for public.
Starting point is 00:49:55 I guess my point is, is that public radio is seen by a lot of Americans as part of the problem, you know, that they're left-leaning, that they're liberal, that they're biased, you know, sort of thing. So I just feel, you know, you have a huge sector of, it's all just, you know, it's all very subjective, right? You know, people are leaning towards what they moralistically feel is more aligned with them. And unfortunately, the stories and the point of view and the journalism from public radio isn't respected by a lot of Americans.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Hmm. Yeah. And I think for all the talk of like, you know, there's like I'm looking at like CNN, right? They're owned by like a Republican, you know, and they're we at like cnn right they're owned by like a republican you know and they're we're starting to see how they're trying to be like we need to like center this thing a little bit like no that's not what you mean but okay we can use that you can use that terminology twitter is now owned by elon who's out here being like vote republican fox obviously like there's
Starting point is 00:51:01 more to say how much of a conservative bend media has and just sort of weaponizes the term like liberal media to say like they're trying to tell people about like to be humane or stories that are like centering the human experience rather than like these like really violent sort of like political stereotypes that get people to just stop thinking and be like yep uh-huh yep okay i don't need to hear. I'm now I'm fired up because someone is like, has it has their books paid for as a student loan? What? Yeah. And if they're if the people who own a company are Democrats, for the most part, they're like Rick Caruso Democrats. You know, they're like the sort of Democrats who support billionaire rulers because they themselves are billionaires like a jerk i don't what is the answer non-profit media non-profit media truly and honestly i think the the thing is there should be no you shouldn't have like everyone should have a fixed budget for political ads like in other countries it's like no one can blow anyone else out on the spend that's when if you can't if you can't take the money out of politics and reverse like Citizens United and shit like that,
Starting point is 00:52:08 then there have to be other like levers on it where someone's dark money spending doesn't completely make given advantage to some ghoul. Who's like just there to merely act out the will of some like nefarious think tank or whatever, a pack or something like that. So I don't know. I mean, like that, I think always the answer is just going to first is just to get the money out of politics, like just to get the corporate spend out. But that is such a gigantic lift at this point in this country. Like, yeah, I guess the other things are like properly supported media that aren't relying on advertisements or doing sponsored content with like fossil fuel companies or something,
Starting point is 00:52:45 and then pretending it's news and things like that. But I think at the end of the day, it's just that like money's on short supply for people who are doing good things. And the people with a lot of money would rather fund the things that maintain the status quo. And that's, that's really the biggest challenge I feel.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah. The effery that you were talking about. Yeah. Well, 100. And again, feeds into any person's understanding of like, what's the point of doing something here? What's the point of voting? Right. I've I've only known, you know, dire straits for most of my life. And I I'm not able to connect how voting for this person is going to do that. And I think that's, you know, part of it is that we're just not able to also offer enough people the like the coverage to see that there are other ways that people work together to make good outcomes. It's not always necessarily in like what's happening in the federal government, but to at least begin investing in like what it means to be part of your community, that the people who are making decisions in your community and hopefully that can, you know, reverberate further out. All right. Well, let's take a quick break to hear from our corporate sponsors and we'll be right back to talk about movie theater candy.
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Starting point is 00:57:55 This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And Wakanda Forever drops in two days as of the day this episode drops. It's Wednesday. Drops on Friday. Reviews are in.
Starting point is 00:58:22 More Thursday night. They look. They're between like solid and glowing super producer joelle i think saw it and i'm not allowed to say what she said but suffice it to say it looks very good things are looking very good for this movie good over there pretty good early estimates suggest that everyone in amer America is going to see it at least twice this weekend. The dollar figures are wild. They're like, yeah, we're seeing like 250 million in like one weekend. It's crazy. don't know if i'm gonna see it this weekend but i'm gonna see it asap and it raises the question there's recently a cinemark map so cinemark the theater chain created one of those maps where like this is everybody's favorite movie theater candy by state and it is one of those maps that actually
Starting point is 00:59:23 seems to be based in fact you can tell because the results are pretty boring in some cases like they're a big chunk of the country is just like yeah we like m&m peanuts just just like you would expect because m&m peanuts are good somebody writing about it was like is it do they like m&M peanuts because they come in yellow wrappers and that's the easiest snack to see in the dark? It's like, no. Have you ever eaten in a movie theater? It's about no look eating the whole time.
Starting point is 00:59:54 You're like, where's my bag of whatever by my lap? You just keep shuffling that into your mouth. Who is putting that thought into it as being like which of these is going to be easiest for me to see in the dark? Right. First off, I want to ask, what is everybody's favorite movie candy?
Starting point is 01:00:11 Just so we can establish some kind of baseline here. Yeah. Mine isn't even on here. It's the Raisinets. Oh, great answer. Good answer. Good answer. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Thank you very much. Thank you. Good answer. I mean, have you guys ever taken some lightly buttered popcorn, just lightly, you know, just a dab. You take your raisinets, you sprinkle them on top of that popcorn, you sit in the dark and every handful is like a bite of a burst of surprise and joy. I just, I've also had major stomach pains and vomiting after.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah, raisinets do not sit well in my stomach. But when, oh, they're so fun going down. I can't taste, I don't like their taste at all. I'm sorry, Leela. Controversial. Me and Leela have not gone to the movies yet. I mean, you should come here. You could just drive up and we should go see Wakanda together. We can see it three times this week. controversial me and leela have not gone to the movies yet i mean you should come here you could
Starting point is 01:01:05 just drive up and we should go to see um wakanda together we can see it three times we're going i'm going purposefully to the blackest theater in oakland at grand lake grand lake theater that's where we're gonna go see it and mine is whoppers whoppoppers. Also not on here. Also not on here. The malted chocolate balls? Those Whoppers. I love those too. They're malt.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I love those. Thank you very much. Yes. Although they crunch. And that's not ideal for a movie situation. I realize that. Still, I love Whoppers. Mine's also not on here.
Starting point is 01:01:42 But Miles, you do yours first. What is going on? This is non-representative. I'm telling you, it's like the elections. Thank you very much. I think we're out here. Look, we contain multitude. This is America.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Don't just reduce us to one logo on a state. I would eat Nerds Ropes if they have them. Yeah, Nerds Ropes are fantastic. Or Twizzler. I think I had some recently. Twizzler is Redfog. That you could like split apart though. No, I think it's like a sweet and tart.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Oh, you know what? It could be sweet and tart ropes. Sweet tart ropes are the number one candy in Alaska. At the Walt Disney Theater in Alaska. No, that's next to eating a dungeness crab in the theater. Alaska. No, that's next to eating a dungeness crab in the theater. But yeah, I like, I like the fruity kind of like sour candies. Like I'll go crazy if I'm like on four 21, I went a couple of years ago,
Starting point is 01:02:36 I got popcorn. I get a little bit of a cup of nacho cheese to dip my popcorn in. Wow. Okay. Cause I'm a savage. Then I get the, the, the like the the candy ropes or whatever and then i gotta have some kind of peanut butter situation it could be recent pieces it could be peanut m&ms can i just say uh red vines headquarters is five minutes away from me wow okay so let's get into this so let's i i realized that we never we just started in talking about our favorite but we should say so the number one answer is M&M peanuts and M&M peanuts are dominant from Texas and every state surrounding Texas, essentially. It's also Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut,
Starting point is 01:03:17 New York, like a bunch of, a bunch of those states or not New York, actually New York is cookie dough bites. So M&M peanuts have like a big stronghold in big chunks of the country that are very populous and also Wisconsin. And then there is a big divide. It was mentioned before Miles said red vines. One of you said red vines are Twizzlers or Twizzlers are red vines. They are separate. They're different candies. And Twizzlers are the East Coast. And then Red Vines are. So Red Vines are the number one candy.
Starting point is 01:03:55 Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada. It's the most. It is holding down an entire Idaho, Colorado. It's holding down that entire chunk of the map and nowhere else. Nowhere else. Yeah. But Red Vines. So Red Vines started in Chicago and Twizzlers, I think, started in New York. And it's been that way since day one that they're like, you know, regionally. It's either, you know, either the Mississippi or west of the Rockies. We don't know where exactly to divide it. But red vines are dominant on one side of the country and Twizzlers. I wonder what the story is there. That's fascinating. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:35 I don't know. Yeah. I wonder if like if you went into like a movie theater in like fucking Maryland or something. And you're like, let me get some red vines. And they're like, red vines. Like vines. And they're like red vines. Like if they would, if it would be like that kind of an outward thing. Cause when I didn't know about red vines,
Starting point is 01:04:51 when I grew up on the East coast, I, I only knew of Twizzlers. I didn't know about, I knew about Twizzlers from the commercials, but I never saw Twizzlers in the store growing up in LA. I always saw red vines, that big tub of red vines.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I've always like, I don't know, that used to be a thing we would drink root beers out of. So Twizzlers is owned by, I think, Mars or Hershey. And so I think they're... Twizzlers headquarters, Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Yeah. Okay. Red Vines headquarters, a five-minute walk from me.
Starting point is 01:05:27 So maybe it's just shorter trucking times. Yeah. I mean, Twizzlers origins are traced to New York's young and smiley confectionery firm in 1845, which was bought by Hershey's in 1977. company of chicago premiered its black licorice vines in 1914 and then the classic raspberry vines which is what red vines original name was made their debut six years later wait are are red vines raspberry they're supposed to be raspberry i don't fuck with either really because they're either they're not tart enough i need them to to, like, nerd ropes are the rope that was promised. Like, I need it to be, like, sweet and tart. I don't, like, they're just both so dull to me. So you're a Sour Patch guy.
Starting point is 01:06:15 So, yeah, that is my candy of preference. The Sour Patch kid. Like my teenage daughters. Welcome to the world. You, candy. Yeah yeah i think they mix the best with popcorn too i love to dump my sour patch kids they also so i was gonna say the raisinets i said earlier when you're talking about raisinets that you can dump the whole box in but actually raisinets they all go to the bottom so you have to do a layered thing. You have to do like a handful.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Sour Patch Kids, though, like for whatever reason, they don't always fall all the way to the bottom. You can dump them. Can I ask a question? Yeah. Why are there states that have none? Like Maine apparently has no favorite candy. They hate Joy. They refused to report.
Starting point is 01:07:04 They hate Joy. I wonder if like Cinemark doesn't operate there maybe yeah i think that's probably it cinemark doesn't have any chains there oh they operate in new hampshire but not vermont huh okay it's being drawn but and like yeah twizzlers are also like i know people who are like you got to get a fresh batch of twizzlers you got to get a fresh batch of twizzlers are also like, I know people who are like, you got to get a fresh batch of Twizzlers. You got to get a fresh batch of Twizzlers. I just got someone I know like got a like a shipment of Twizzlers recently. And they're like, I got fresh ones. Come try them.
Starting point is 01:07:35 They don't taste fucking better. It's like it's sourdough bread or something. Yeah, I don't know. It's just like I get that there are freshies you want to have from Halloween candy, right? Like a fresh Abba Zabba. That is good. Like when they, when they go too long, they turn to cement or whatever, but a Twizzler or like a Red Vine, I don't know about like a stale one where I'm like, I think I'm just not as into the licorice. is real i have come to appreciate that the freshness of a candy over time definitely helps is it it's better like when when it's kind of new like when you're eating halloween candy like in the new year that that shit is not is no longer any good right for the most part i mean our neighborhood kids took everything but left the tootsie, which really surprised me. I love Tootsie Rolls. The fudge. What, Leela?
Starting point is 01:08:27 I'm not a fan of the Tootsie Rolls. The dance or the candy. Yeah. I like it. It's good. But they kept moving, literally moving them aside and looking for the sour stuff, like Jack. Yeah. I like the sour stuff.
Starting point is 01:08:45 The kids these days, that's how you know we're a young, hip podcast. We say kids these days. Yeah. They like the sour candy, that's for sure. The 6ix9ine boys should have done a collab with the makers of the Tootsie Roll. They didn't. They never did. There's probably some commercial somewhere.
Starting point is 01:09:04 I know. I mean, what happened to Quad City? You know? How far have we fallen in this time since 1995 or 6? Their music is still very popular in all the parties. So I don't know. Even like high school proms. Oh, they still know about Miami-Base?
Starting point is 01:09:19 Are still whooping. There it is. Isn't that them? Is that them? Oh, no, it's not them? No, it's not them. No, it's not them. No, no. Quad City DJs. Quad City DJs. Isn't that them?
Starting point is 01:09:31 The whoop, there it is. No? That was a DC. Wait, what? Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team.
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Starting point is 01:09:44 Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team. Tag team.. I'm a part of the music., I'm a part of the music. I'm a part yesterday where i was playing that song in the car it's been on my kids playlist since they were you know two and my six-year-old was like yeah i don't really like this song i was like no that's a hard moment yeah seriously I think it's probably because we've worn it out, but it's still. Wow. They really don't. Huh. So they can't.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Brutal. So they cannot dig it. Yeah. I said, can you dig it? Do you ever turn around and. Can y'all dig it? We can dig it. Dad, look at the road.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Just look at the road, Dad. Stop looking around and asking me, can we dig it? Our own graves? Because you're about to crash this car? No. Miles, what's your favorite candy? Did you say? Oh, you said the ropes?
Starting point is 01:10:34 I said nine things because I'm high when I go into a movie theater. I have to indulge all my senses, sweet and savory. But none of ours were really on here. Other than, I guess, Red Vines. I will say Reese's Pieces, I love but on that's all because of et et is the best product placement of all time it remains the best product placement of all time i i don't think i like reese's pieces i don't think i've ever liked them but i still fuck with them when i'm at a movie theater because of et and because of et i started getting them when i was young at the movie theater and just have like an association where
Starting point is 01:11:11 i'm like man if i eat a pound of reese's pieces i get a wild sugar high so i still remember getting those at honey i shrunk the kids when i was oh wow those were were the days. What are your thoughts on Reese's Pieces? I'm neutral. I'm very blah, bland, meh. I don't have, you know, I don't hate them. I don't love them. They're kind of just meh. But I find it interesting
Starting point is 01:11:37 that you would like, that your palate would enjoy a food because of a movie. Yeah. Oh, yeah. i think it's like the association it's purely the association there's like there have been a few movies where like or tv shows i started eating stuff because of what i saw on tv like i remember abba zaba because of how high or no i mean half baked they're talking about abba, and I was like, I gotta try that. And then I was like, oh, okay, this is interesting.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Reese's Pieces because of E.T. There was one other one that, oh, in Mallrats, this dude is eating chocolate-covered pretzels in a scene. And then I just went all in on chocolate-covered pretzels. Yeah. So I think all that to say is I'm stupid. And I want to be like TV screen. The advertisements have worked. They work on you.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Huge. 100%. And I didn't knowingly say I'm eating this because of E.T. It's just that E.T. eating those things and they followed a nice little crunch whenever he ate it. And the colors of the bag for whatever reason it just it worked they got my ass and that was supposed to be m&ms and mars fucked up and just were like we're not interested in putting our candy in your little movie and so they went with reese's pieces and oh that's right yeah and they're like you can do it for free. You know too much about this. We did a whole thing on it because we were really thinking about how, like, seminal that is for Reese's Pieces, that E.T. thing. And I think it's also seen as wacky little fingers just drop a couple Reese's Pieces.
Starting point is 01:13:17 That's appetizing? I don't know why, but it felt magical. It does. It works for some reason. It shouldn't. None of it should work i can't i won't judge you we will not judge you i can't offer you a good explanation i judge myself those nasty little fingers though uh well hana lila such a pleasure having you both
Starting point is 01:13:37 on the daily zeitgeist uh where can people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff you can listen to the stoop wherever you find your podcasts. Don't you just love that? I hate that phrase. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing stories consistently throughout the year about the Black Diaspora, The Stoop, or thestoop.org.
Starting point is 01:13:57 You can find us there or on social medias at The Stoop Podcast. Amazing. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yes so um i found this lady that does these little it's on it's instagram but i think she's on tiktok as well and the handle is csa punch and she's just this. She's a mom of young kids and she loves 90s R&B. And she does these little skits with like 90s R&B songs. And it just, it brings me joy. She's funny. She takes a song like that the kids are listening to now that has been sampled and then goes back and you hear the original song.
Starting point is 01:14:45 And then that song turns out was sampled by somebody else. So it's just fun. And I, you know, she, she keeps me happy. Amazing. And that's her handle is CSA punch.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Nice. How about you? Well, I've been, I've been like really intrigued by just recently on Twitter, someone had tweeted, like, where are the girls from the perm boxes? I don't know if you guys saw this, but it was like, where are they now? The girls with their straight hair on the front of the perm boxes, like little girls, eight years old, looking cute, and the little ponytails and the beads. And they came forward and they showed pictures of like where they're at now.
Starting point is 01:15:29 And these girls, first of all, like all of them had natural hair they didn't have perms um they have their hair straightened and they were just gorgeous they were beautiful and they were just these stunning women that were kind of talking about like what it was like to be on that perm box at such a young age and like i just loved that whole interviewing them there was a site called because of Them. And they did a whole series, like, on where they are now. And I just, I love that kind of flashback kind of thing. So, I was loving that. Nice.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Miles, where can people find you? And what is a tweet you've been enjoying? Jack, I mean, when was the last time you bought a box of Just For Me texture softener? Just For Me? Oh, yeah. You know. You remember the girls from that. It's been a while.
Starting point is 01:16:04 I'm almost out you remember the girls from the fur boxes come on jack uh let's see some tweets that i like one is just from jamie loftus at jamie loftus help uh tweeted uh how many poorly written comic book villains will we elect today folks uh which feels uh kind of what's going on there oh and then at jay frankensteiner tweeted every el Elon post is like watching Joe Pesci enter the Home Alone house. Really, that summed it up. Thank you for fusing those two things together.
Starting point is 01:16:34 You can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram. You can check Jack and I out on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. We got a new episode coming out tomorrow, Thursday. You don't want to miss that. Also, my other podcast talking about 90 Day Fiance for 20 Day Fiance, wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:16:52 I saw your eyes light up. Lila, what's going on? And Lila likes that show. 90 Day Fiance, it's a jam. It's a jam. All right, well, Lila, we might have to have you on. Yes. Sometime.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Love it. It's also a very, I just love what the Venn diagram is of really intellectual people who also fuck with 90 Day. It's unbelievable in my mind. The kind of people who are like, I love 90 Day. I'm like, you just want a Peabody. I mean, don't hold that against people. Yeah, no, not at all. A social experiment. I love it. There it is. Let's see. And that's it. Yeah. Find me there. There you go. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Christy Yamaguchi main tweeted something yesterday that I thought was just a fun shit post. He tweeted, been giving rides to senior citizens to go vote and making small talk on the way and if i find out they're voting republican i just push them out of the car not even slowing
Starting point is 01:17:51 down gotta maximize my time i could just see a lot of republicans finding that and be like do you see what's happening yeah and waste a lot of time so many people on twitter doing that stuff to see if they get picked up by conservative outlets. And then Emma Berkowitz wrote, instead of a sticker, you should get a hot dog when you vote. This is supposed to be America. You should have options. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:19 You have options of what you put on your hot dog. I would take like a... I don't know. Let me just think about this a little bit. Red Mines. Tremets. Covered pretzel. Hey, we got peanut M&Ms, Reese's Pieces, or a hot dog. What do you want?
Starting point is 01:18:32 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what song
Starting point is 01:18:53 do we think people might enjoy? This is a group, I maybe have called out one or two of their songs in the past. They're called Elkin and Nelson, and then there are these two brothers from Colombia that moved to Spain, like, 70s and like they got into like disco in Spain in the 70s but they're from Colombia so like their sense of rhythm is completely different than like continental Europe so the albums they made are like really funky and they sound like it's such a unique sound for that
Starting point is 01:19:22 era and I always loved their work and I was just listening to one of their other albums. This track is called Vamonos. And it's by Elkin and Nelson. And if you like a little just if you like solid rhythm and like funky, I don't know what I call it. Like funky Latin disco kind of thing. Check this track out. It's called Vamonos. All right.
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