The Daily Zeitgeist - Hunger Games VMAs, RIP Two Kings 9.1.20

Episode Date: September 1, 2020

In episode 706, Jack and guest host Scam Goddess Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Blair Socci to discuss the VMAs, Trump praising supporters amid deadly clashes with anti-racism protestors, a video ...game making BLM protestors the villain, the passings of Chadwick Boseman and John Thompson, the power of crowds, and more!FOOTNOTES: MTV Video Music Awards: 6 Memorable Moments Trump praises supporters amid deadly clashes with social justice demonstrators Biden hits campaign trail, blames Trump for city violence Black Lives Matter Symbol: What Does The Black Power Fist Mean & What Is The History Behind It? Ubisoft Apologizes After New Game 'Elite Squad' Equates Black Power Fist With Terrorism Ubisoft Apologizes, Removes Black Power Fist From Tom Clancy’s Elite Squad Ronald Reagan sends you to do war crimes in the latest Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War trailer No shit, video games are political. They’re conservative. Fact check: Trump suggests video games to blame for mass shootings 'Black Panther' Director Ryan Coogler Pens Emotional, Beautiful Tribute to Chadwick Boseman Legendary Georgetown coach John Thompson Jr. dies at age 78 WATCH: Adele - Set Fire To The Rain (reggae version) original WATCH: Adele Reggae Mix WATCH: Adele - someone like you (reggae version) by Reggaesta Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:41 It's Tuesday, September 1st, 2020. Happy September to everyone.'s pit sweat and his little boy smile. Jack's shirt wet on his show all the while. A man so sweaty it's like his skin sneeze. Jack's pit sweat, if you please. That is courtesy of Walter Chestnut, and I'm thrilled to be joined by my special guest co-host, the scam goddess, one of the very faces on Mount Zyte Moore herself. She is Lacey Mosley! Hey! It's Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Scam Goddess, a.k.a. Let's see if I can do this. It's early. We could have scammed it up, robbing in the deep. Your credit card inside of my hands.
Starting point is 00:03:40 But you reported, reported, it, report it, report it to the best That was a little rusty. Sorry, my throat is a little scratchy. I was going to say, I mean, do you want to take that over? No, that sounded amazing, as always. Was that dedicated to anyone in particular? That was dedicated to Adele, honey. Okay. Scamming Ponda Deep.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Okay. We have to bring in the new Rasta remix. Yes, we do. We could have had it all. Scamming Ponda Deep. Come on, Adele. Give us the reggae remix.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Also, Daniel, put some auto-tune on that. Make me sound good. Make me sound like future, Daniel. I'm auto-tune on that. Make me sound good. Make me sound like Future, Daniel. I'm serious. Yes, me too. That song, Black Velvet, doesn't sound right unless you sound like Future, I feel like. Did you know that song is by a Canadian?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Are you guys familiar with that song, Black Velvet? Oh, yeah. Black Velvet and that little boy smile. Like, Opin's talking about Mississippi and Memphis. It's written by Canadians for a Canadian artist. Hilarious. I'm not allowing that. I will not allow it, guys.
Starting point is 00:04:51 It sounds very American, though. Yeah, it does. Good for them. They knew what sells. No one wants to hear about maple trees. Shout out to Canada. Love my Canadians. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Starting point is 00:05:06 by the hilarious and talented Blair Saki. Oh, what's up, Daily Zeitgeist? Back with my fucking boys and my new friend Lacey. Yeah. I don't have an AKA. Like, Christy Yamaguchi wrote me one a while ago, but I don't have an AKA like Christy Yamaguchi wrote me one a while ago but I don't have it they're hard to keep track of
Starting point is 00:05:30 you're the guest you do not require one and you're bringing AKA energy with your sort of WWE level of vibes coming at you now off the ropes off the ropes yes level of vibes. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Coming at you now, daily psych toys.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, yeah. Yes. I was just going to say, I'm such a big fan of your comedy, Blair. Like, have you been doing any lately outside? Oh, that's so nice.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Thank you. I've recently done a few outside shows just in the last week or two. It was so scary after not doing comedy for so long um and i'm doing a live streaming event with uh ron funges this weekend i'm kind of scared for that too but yeah it's been very weird because you know usually you do it every night you're
Starting point is 00:06:18 not thinking about it but right yeah i've had that too I'm like, am I am I good at things anymore? Yeah, I don't know how to do things. It's like we're suspended in time, you know? Yeah. How big like was the audience smaller than usual and like distanced out and you had to shout at them through a megaphone or how did it work? a megaphone or how did it work? One was in like this backyard parking lot and it was a big parking lot and it was well organized and there was a good amount of people all spaced out with masks and temperature checked. But yeah, it was a big crowd and that was my first time. Wow. Yeah. Nice. All right, Blair, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Starting point is 00:07:04 we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. Trump is trying to use the social uprisings and unrest to help his campaign and pretty much start a civil war. uh we'll talk about that we'll talk about how black lives matter protesters are the villains of a new video game and just generally like cultural right word uh move that i feel like we're witnessing in the united states we're going to talk about chadwick boseman john thompson uh just the worst weekend of all time we're going to talk about the importance of crowds speaking of which uh because there were no convention bounces this year the nba ratings like in terms of how many people are watching uh on tv despite the fact that we have nothing else to do are lower than they have ever been i think and uh so it's like the importance of having a crowd there and that energy is like really it matters even more than i think i realized so we'll talk about all that plenty more
Starting point is 00:08:13 but first blair we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are okay my last search on google was what to do if you click on a suspicious link on iphone uh-oh i'm interested so you didn't click on my link i take it the link i sent you before the show hey better check this out before we record. Just a little background for... And then suddenly your phone starts smoking. I feel like I have lived nine lives and I have a crazy amount of life experience
Starting point is 00:08:56 for the years I've lived on this planet, yet all my friends do say that I'm the unanimous first pick of the person who would get kidnapped of our friends. What a strange award to win. Yeah, I wasn't campaigning for it. Did you also win that in high school, most likely to be kidnapped? No, I didn't win that in high school. But I'm always just like,
Starting point is 00:09:26 I'm smart, okay? I just am trusting. Right. Don't worry. I feel like I would have been that person too. I had a lot of friends have to yell at me about stuff that I've learned now. Like I used to get in Ubers and I'd be like, for Lacey?
Starting point is 00:09:39 And my girlfriend grabbed me and was like, what the fuck are you doing? She was like, don't ever say your name when you get into an uber you go who is this uber for and you wait for them to say your name i've done that because because i've gotten in wrong ubers before and it was pretty chill we were like just take us because we like you like turn the number off we'll pay you in cash but like you should definitely not do that that's a good reminder for the listeners. Yeah. What was the link for?
Starting point is 00:10:09 How did you come across that link? Okay, well, it's my myth, so I'll tell you. Okay, we can hold for that. Okay, I like this. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, something I think is overrated is the 2006 song Hey There Delilah by the Plain White Tees. That song was nominated for a Grammy.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Was it really? Yeah, it was fucking massive. Like extremely overrated. Kill me. Kill me. I never want to hear it again. I don't give a fuck about Delilah and I hope it's dead forever. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Wow, that's so specific and I hope it's dead forever. Wow. Wow, that's so specific and I love it so much. I mean, Delilah was definitely a manic pixie dream girl. Oh, for sure. How that song got so big is, you know, frustrating. I mean, it is my favorite song, but I understand
Starting point is 00:11:00 your criticism. Was that the time when guys were playing little acoustic guitars and shit i feel like that was at parties yeah and they were like the sensitive guy was really hot back then right right or like you'd go back to a guy's house and they'd pull out a guitar oh my god i hate that i hate guys when they try to play music to you. I hate when they sing poetry or like talk. That's a guess. That's a song.
Starting point is 00:11:26 But like when they say poetry, oh God. Skin's crawling. Jack's like, those are my go-tos. That's how I got my wife. Always. Always. Yeah. My acoustic guitar, I just learned two chords.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And then I would like be like, hey there, Sarah. And change the name. Innovative. I like that. That's how it works. I also love that you said Sarah. I changed the name. Hey there, Sarah.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Huge points. Not extravagantly to her i'm talking about you uh yeah no that's that song almost made plain white t-shirts uncool that's how bad that song was because it wasn't it by the plain white tees yeah by that incredible band with that incredible name. That name is like a music business generator. They're like, what are we going to call this one? Right.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Just looking around. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated, Blair? Okay, Cottonelle ass wipes. Look, are they good for the environment? No, they're not. They're not. But I'm a liberal with a compassionate voting record and a sparkling clean asshole.
Starting point is 00:12:51 I walk around feeling fresh and confident. And I do recycle and use a reusable water bottle and drive a Prius. So I'm sorry. I do prioritize myself in this way. And my butthole is blissfully fresh. Yeah. That's on your business cards, that specific phrase. Blissfully fresh.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I've been thinking a lot about the booty hole lately. There's like a bidet Twitter now that Ify. I've seen that. I've seen Ify going hard on bidet Twitter and Jaquise Jaquise also loves to go hard on bidet Twitter. But they are saying like use less toilet paper. You blast your booty hole. Have you ever used a bidet Blair?
Starting point is 00:13:36 I think I have once or twice and I think I would really be for it. But yeah, I guess I'm not really at that sort of luxury level yet. I'm just with the Cottonelle so far. I've been in two Airbnbs that had like fancy future toilets that had like bidets built in, one of which you could actually adjust the temperature of the water, which was pretty luxurious. Yes, I can't lie.
Starting point is 00:14:09 It's one of the great inventions. Have you used one, Lacey? I have. It was like that, Jack, where it was like I was staying somewhere, but I was working, and it was like one of those Japanese toilets that talks to you and it does everything and heats up and shit. But I was going to say, but they're actually not. I was looking online. Bidets aren't that expensive.
Starting point is 00:14:25 They range. Like you can just hook one up to your toilet. Like, right. And it's like cheaper. The bidet attachment is hysterical. I'm afraid though. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:36 The bidet attachment. Yeah. So there is one. I've also been at a less nice hotel that had a bidet attachment that was just like the hose arm that's on a kitchen sink, like the spray nozzle thing that is just loose
Starting point is 00:14:54 and you just like are supposed to reach in there. And it's like that, like I can't imagine a filthier object in my mind than something that people are always just holding up to their asshole in a hotel. Not a hose. Not a garden hose.
Starting point is 00:15:10 It's basically a garden hose. Yeah. I think a hands-free bidet is definitely the way to go. Especially in a hotel. That's too many people. After I get a Peloton I'll get like a
Starting point is 00:15:26 Japanese toilet right yeah and then you will officially be in the future yeah I just need some jobs before that finally what is that myth that we've been eagerly awaiting Blair
Starting point is 00:15:41 okay I want to come on here and bust the myth that if you innocently click on a spam link from the fake US Postal Service that you will be sex trafficked and or have your identity stolen because folks I clicked on it and it said they had a package of mine that they were holding and it looked extremely official um and you know the USPS is uh famously vulnerable right now so I felt I really needed to listen to what they said even though it actually wasn't the postal service. Then I looked it up.
Starting point is 00:16:11 It said it's a new sex trafficking scam but ultimately I live so if it's happened to anyone out there I just want you to know that you're safe. That's great to know. It's a lot of information coming at us uh what so so they said you you got an email a text message oh no no yeah text message to uh multiple text messages um now i've since blocked uh those numbers but yeah and they were like we got a
Starting point is 00:16:41 package hit us up and then kept texting you? Yeah, it went to what appeared to be the official Postal Service website, but was not. Just an incredible fake one. USB-S, it was called. They were like, hey, we told you. USB-S. That's very common too though whenever there is some type of global uh situation like when something becomes famous or some industry like that scammers will absolutely capitalize
Starting point is 00:17:13 on that there's been so many coronavirus scams like yeah yeah of course the usps is like in so much trouble when we're talking about it so much of course somebody was, let's get that fake link out there, y'all. Oh, yeah, you're the expert. The girls are ready. Blair Saki is at her house ready to click. Like, I can only imagine what kind of scams were happening on foot after 9-11. Oh, my God. We weren't on the internet like we are now. So I feel like there had to have been some door-to-door 9-11 scams.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Absolutely. These people are sick. Get I feel like there had to have been some door-to-door 9-11 scams. Absolutely. These people are sick. Get well soon, scammers. By the way, Blair, just to back up a second, how do you dispose of the Cottonelle wipes? What are we doing with those? So this is what's problematic about them. Right, you can't flush them.
Starting point is 00:18:02 No, no, they're flushable. What? Yeah, yeah, it's flushable. Okay. But but that's what they say they're bad for the environment and that's why i had to um you know come up with a lot of data about why i'm good got it okay because there's a turtle choking on your the pacific trash gyre is just a texas-sized ball of your shit wipes oh my god oh no i want a woke finding meo where like all the animals are like all the fish in the sea are like we dying
Starting point is 00:18:49 yeah you're not allowed to use apricot scrub either it's also bad for the environment really? yeah just the apricot additive yeah it's bad for yeah the pipes and everything and yeah caustic so that's i also don't
Starting point is 00:19:12 like apricot flavored anything generally yeah i like jam but it's not something i seek out it's just like if it's there right yeah i think it's's like I am like one person, you know, like the people who think cilantro tastes like soap. I feel like I have that with apricot for whatever reason. I just like don't. It rubs me the wrong way. I feel like apricot is not. It don't slap like that. So I feel like you might.
Starting point is 00:19:42 It might not be like a cilantro thing where cilantro slaps. I feel bad for who think it tastes like soap i'm like y'all got a disease i agree i can't i don't even want to imagine my life without cilantro like it's such a fucking gift i like a sharp flavor it's such a gift um all right real quick guys before we uh go to our first break i did want to ask uh if saw the VMAs because I did not. But people are people are talking about it and everybody watched it. I'm getting really interesting, sometimes conflicting takes. So I watched it on the television. I don't really get I don't really use my cable as much anymore because it gives me anxiety because commercials about diseases really give me anxiety.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I have hypochondria, so I can't watch a TV show and then it's fun. And then it's like, if you got AIDS, I'm like, okay, I got to turn this off. This is too much for me. Not to say that that's bad. It's just like I think about diseases too much. So I watched it on TV despite I should have just watched it on the Internet. And it was weird. It gave me these weird dystopian like life is bad feelings, but also it was entertaining.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And by that I mean like so parts of it were filmed as like music videos that were kind of airing, you know, after they'd been shot, obviously. And then parts of it were like live and outside and people they had the kids in their cars with their masks on and they were sitting on top of their cars and sitting if they had a sunroof they'd be sitting out the sunroof or whatever the fuck and in a field like it was like a it felt i don't know what like a drive-in shot it in i want to say new york city though just because that's because there was a lot of bridges and shit. But it was a city. It felt like a drive-in.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Correct me if I'm wrong. If anybody can pull up that information on where they shot it. But it was definitely like a drive-in. It felt like a drive-in movie theater. And so Kiki Palmer was super cute. There's moments where she was doing stuff and there was a crowd and they could laugh or whatever. But there's other moments where she's doing bits and there's no crowd and they just added an audience laugh track, which was like. That's so weird.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Now, do you guys as performers add audience laugh tracks to your stand up material? Do you have do you have like. I've never done that. I would just actually not post a clip that was bad. But it is funny because like in these pitch meetings and stuff right now, like they're like, and what if we just shoot it COVID safe and add in stuff? And I'm like, that sounds crazy. Sounds bad.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But I think a lot of people are doing it, you know, or you have to. Like, people are, I think people are doing actually some cool, coming up with some cool shit. I mean, not all of it works, but the way that people are adapting, you know? Right. And it was New York City. It was, yeah. Was it at the Bronx Zoo? Or was that just a picture that Kiki Palmer took?
Starting point is 00:22:49 zoo or was that just a picture that kiki palmer took um yes uh it says they moved from the brooklyn's bark barclays center to an audience freeside new york city doesn't say if it was the bronx zoo but the other thing that was weird was like where people were accepting their awards um i felt like other shows when they did the social distancing like Zoom reunions or whatever like for example Real Housewives it would be like the background of their house or like a roaring fireplace or whatever there were so many people accepting awards and they looked like they were being held hostage
Starting point is 00:23:16 they looked like Olivia Pope Colin Fitzgerald Grant like holding the newspaper up like please come save me they were like in these closets like thank you so much mtv i was like this is scaring me wow in the closet podcast style just being like this will dead the noise right i only saw the clip of the gaga ariana grande compilation and i fucking loved it um it was so good gaga's incredible she just brings it so hard sometimes
Starting point is 00:23:46 i feel like people don't even give her enough credit because she brings it so hard every single performance that people just are used to it or too used to it yeah it's like beyonce i mean yeah we give beyonce her credit because we're obsessed with her yeah people are obsessed with lady gaga too i think you're right it's's like, why isn't she getting... When they did the Tricon Award and it was like, she did this movie. She got this Oscar for this. And she did blah, blah, blah. I was like...
Starting point is 00:24:12 At first it scared me because I felt like I was in The Hunger Games. Because it was like, look at this celebrity woman. Cool, cool, cool. But then I was like, no, she's really done a lot of great shit. Yeah. I know you. I love her. And I love Beyonce.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Oh, and then the last thing i have to say is the black ips had a performance which i was like what whoa i didn't heard that since i've been to a wedding in like five years ago what uh fergie was not there obviously um they performed with taiga who came out in a mask but none of the black IPs were masked until the end where will I am randomly put on a mask. And then they had this light in their crotch that started lighting up the men. And so they were dancing and then their crotches were lighting up.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And I don't know what that was about, but that's a symptom of COVID. So they really should have been wearing the masks. All that I hear through that is Tyga's agents have been working harder than anyone in quarantine. Yeah. Get on there. Who should we have? Young and fresh guys.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Young and fresh. We got BTS. Okay, what about Tyga? The Black Eyed Peas? We reach back into 2001. Yes. taiga the black ips we reached back into 2001 yes i heard the the set design gave off um the capital in the hunger games vibes a little bit like it was there were like silhouettes of people in the background like clapping and laughing but at weird inappropriate times it seemed like the the timing was off yes that in combination with just where we are fashion wise right now which is
Starting point is 00:25:51 everything does kind of look like the hunger games colored hair and yeah loud and colorful clothes it felt like a little bit like the hunger games yeah and a lot of like harnesses and stuff yeah you guys are obviously talking about what I'm wearing during our recording right now and the fact that I have the curly Q sideburns. It is a lot, but you know, I thought I'd... For Zoom. Yeah, for the Zoom. Wanted to give you guys a little something extra.
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Starting point is 00:30:20 My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and don't worry we promise to avoid any black holes most of the time and we're back so the president uh who is donald trump did you guys hear that he's the president, who is Donald Trump, did you guys hear that? He's the president? I've heard that. I've heard it.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So after last week's double murder of protesters on the street by a gun-toting, MAGA-supporting, 17-year-old Blue Lives Matter activist, this weekend saw the murder of a Patriot Prayer activist in Portland. Patri patriot prayer is like a right-wing group um sounds like some bullshit yeah they don't have no good names for their shit either oh it never slaps right and we don't know the details of like what what happened what led up to the murder even though there there is video of it. So awful.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah, super awful all around. But Trump spent the weekend of violence basically praising his side of the violence, which is the exact thing to do if you want to fan the flames of that. And he was picking a fight with the mayor of portland and the mayor of portland was like what why why are you doing that like it seemed like he was just responding to him like he was a normal president he's like what imagine if you were just like let's join together to you know nobody wants anybody to be killed let's join together and uh fight against
Starting point is 00:32:05 this violence but it was just like he was trying to reset things i thought his statement was actually kind of interesting because it imagined a reality in which the president was a you know not not a monstrous uh you know trying to cause a civil war to help his chances of reelection. Yeah, you can't reason with a narcissist. Like, there's no... I saw that statement, and I was like, oh, this man is just trying to appeal to logic and reason. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:37 But, yeah, like, he's just... He doesn't think, like, in a presidential way. He thinks only in a PR way, and he's like lighting lighting up his base right because he's trying to win this election yeah i do want to circle back to like when i was making fun of the name of patriot prayers i'm not saying that i want to see anybody die i'm not rooting for them to be murdered it's terrifying that people are getting murdered at protests now and that it's starting to happen more frequently um that fucking child bro i'm like bro y'all need to charge his mom too like
Starting point is 00:33:11 what kind of fucking mom are you like you driving your kid come on baby get in the car we gonna go 20 minutes over get your rifle like the fuck did she wanted her kid dead like who does that right who sends their kids out to violence like that so i would love for her to also see some kind of charges because that was some dumb ass shit and they're specifically arguing that he should be found innocent and that it was self-defense his parents oh my god when your mama gotta drop you off to the murder how is that self-defense if you had taken your little ass home you wouldn't have even been there like but and you can't you can't have a gun at 17 anyways aside from aside from anything like that's a law yeah it's it's one of those wild laws but i wish that donald trump would act like the president of the united
Starting point is 00:34:00 states like you're not the president of your home girls you're the president of the united states like you're not the president of your home girls you're the president of the united states you can't just be the president of the people who like you yeah that's not how this works so anybody bit dying on either side should be an issue for you yeah no anyone who is not for him is his complete enemy yeah yeah you know i talk a lot about weimar germ Germany the like you know last bastion of liberalism in Germany before the rise of the Nazis and this writer Lee J. Carter was tweeting the history of Nazis holding rallies in left wing areas of Weimar
Starting point is 00:34:35 Germany instigating street fights and then telling the press that only they could save Germany from the quote violent communists seems like an important thing for people to be studying right now. Yeah, I saw that. And it was also interesting because the Trump campaign is absolutely already started to
Starting point is 00:34:54 do that. They have campaign propaganda out that's like, this is Joe Biden's America. And it's pictures of people rioting and looting and protesting. It's like, you know, that happened under your presidency, like how you're just gonna put this like we haven't had a joe biden presidency yet this is your presidency right this is now right but but they're already spinning it and it's crazy because oh these people believe it they believe it yeah you know the news so they believe it very deeply and i mean they believe stuff that isn't on on the news like the anti-mask stuff is uh i don't know it's it was still kind of i had only seen like memes online but uh the show this american life over the weekend had an episode
Starting point is 00:35:43 where they took you inside a parent-teacher meeting in Utah where all of the parents were shouting at the teachers for wearing masks at the meeting and just wanting to protect themselves or even claiming that masks were helpful. It really, I don't know, drove home that, that there's, there are a lot of places in the country where people are pure, like completely cut off from reality. And it's so sad the way like everything has to do with sides now, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:21 like it, like things that are become full symbols for one side versus what they actually are absolutely needed for to prevent deaths. Right. And they it's crazy, too, because I feel like Republicans politicize mass and then we're like, you're politicizing the mass. It was like, no, y'all did like we just said everybody wear a mask. politicizing the mask it was like no y'all did like we just said everybody wear a mask it wasn't about who you're voting for and that's because donald trump refused to wear one for so long it's just so i wish we could sue him i wish everyone in america could collectively file a freaking lawsuit against his negligence because it just there has to be some kind of recompense for this kind of behavior like how do you let all these people die and you're like you know what actually never mind i'm gonna wear a mask right yeah it's it's
Starting point is 00:37:09 also like happening culturally i feel like a little bit um you know people talk about hollywood having a left-leaning bias and um you know that's i guess you could see that. I mean, I think it's I don't know. I wouldn't say it's a left leaning bias, but the Fox News perspective on the world is not of progressive ideals kind of runs underneath our popular culture to a large degree. We talked, even on yesterday's episode, about this movie that was shockingly popular in August. It was the most popular Netflix movie called The Lost Husband. Jason Pargin, who I worked with at Cracked, pointed out that, like, historically, the culture we consume has a very deep and thorough aversion to the city and the government. And, you know, a bias towards the freedom of people in the country.
Starting point is 00:38:23 towards the freedom of people in the country. If you think about the Capitol and the Hunger Games, the Empire and Star Wars, the EPA being the bad guys and Ghostbusters. There's all these really classic pieces of popular culture that have this violent right-wing fantasy at their center. Yeah. And now we're starting to see it in video games. There's this new Tom Clancy video game called Elite Squad. Tom Clancy does the supposedly realistic military games
Starting point is 00:39:00 where you're part of some military operation. In this one, you are part of some military operation. In this one, you are part of a military operation fighting against a shadowy group that is fighting to, or lying about its agenda of creating an egalitarian utopia in order to gain popular support, and their symbol is a black fist. So it's just straight up like it's straight up
Starting point is 00:39:29 there the bad guy in this video game is the black lives matter movement and that conditioning is so freaking dangerous i read kids yeah i got an audition yesterday for a very prestigious show and the audition was like for a black female police officer who's like very likable and blah blah blah and i like had to talk to my friends i was like it's crazy like this would be a huge opportunity but i was like i say no right i can't be a fucking likable cop are you kidding me like so i had to respond i was like i respectfully decline because fuck the police like did you really yes i put a little black heart i was like lol like it's my rep like we have a good relationship they were like done and done but it was like yeah i'm not about to play into copaganda i don't want to be the nice i don't want any black child to look
Starting point is 00:40:21 up to the police right yeah or any child for that matter that it's just oh but that's what we're doing with our social media and with and with video games and the things that we consume because we've all been indoctrinated into copaganda i have my whole life i used to watch all them shows and watch fucking ice tea and mariska harkity be punching niggas in their faces and stuff like well they're a criminal so we could we could stab them a little bit before we get some information and it's like that's not that's not how the law should work yeah every movie we watch is like some cop who gets fired and like give us your gun and your badge and then he just go home and keep working on the crime alone it's like that's no he's right breaking the law yeah that 17 year old was enacting like the fantasy behind every movie of like somebody who takes
Starting point is 00:41:06 the law into their own hands because of you know the shit he's seeing on fox news and um and just why do we have that trope like why is that trope so deeply ingrained into our culture i don't even notice it anymore yeah when I was watching movies and I was seeing cops like beat up on the perps or like even in Bad Boys, you see like Will Smith will go see his like informant and then he'll like
Starting point is 00:41:33 beat him up a little bit and hit him with a meat hammer and stuff. And he's like, now talk. Right. Yeah. I just rewatched a trilogy
Starting point is 00:41:41 in quarantine. I wonder how Will, how they feel about that now. The Bad Boys trilogy? Yeah. Yeah. And Men in Black, he starts out as a cop. Yeah, my two favorite movies growing up were Jaws and Die Hard.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Very different movies, but both with cops, like off-duty cops taking matters into their own hands as the central heroic journey. Right. I feel like if Will Smith was his characters in all the movies he was playing, we would be protesting him. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Get Mike Lowry out of here. Yeah. There's also a- Mike Lowry in his Porsche. Beating the shit out of everyday citizens Blair what's your bad boys like ranking in terms of the movies
Starting point is 00:42:34 I've heard three is really good I like bad boys I think I like one the best then two then three or then three then two then two then three or then three, then two, then two, then three.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I don't know. Like maybe cause I watched them all back to back, but I was like, geez, these are, these are a lot of fighting. It was like just shooting scenes the whole time. You know,
Starting point is 00:42:59 I think I needed more plot. I was more invested in their relationship, which is why I liked number one, the best. That's true. It is why i liked number one the best that's true it is more relationship in number one and then number two is like when they gave michael bay a budget so he couldn't just do relationships he was like cars we're gonna throw 30 cars onto the freeway yeah that was too much for me i feel like men probably like that one all the explosions you know michael bay is so good at recognizing the consequences of violence that he one time like in the during the filming of the transformers movies if you watch
Starting point is 00:43:33 the like dvd extras he explodes a car into a building that they hadn't cleared like there were people living in the building and he was just pure luck that they didn't kill anybody he's like a bad dude though right famously he doesn't have a great reputation he exploded also just men
Starting point is 00:43:58 let's explode a car into a building yeah holy shit there's also a new explode a car into a building. Domestic terrorism. Yeah. Right. Holy shit. There's also a new Call of Duty game that has, it's like all about you're basically in the CIA and the thing ends with somebody telling the protagonist, like, you can't do that.
Starting point is 00:44:24 That's illegal. And then cut to ronald reagan being like give him whatever he wants we don't need to like listen to the war crimes tribunal like let's just commit some crimes against humanity to get the job done um who is funding these video games this is like this is like the republican party is like the funding these or what is happening i just think they're more they're in touch with a like the consuming pot like i think there's a big demand for a lot of this shit out there. There's just a lot of angry conservative dudes who are gun collectors and they... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Sitting in their basements waiting to beat Kyle. School shooters. Here's the thing about that one, though. Ronald Reagan was shady as fuck, so could Ronald also be like, and here's some crack to give to the black community. Like let's just make it historically accurate. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Get that in there. Um, yeah, the, it's interesting that he's like a mastermind in this, uh, cause he was, I think more of a puppet,
Starting point is 00:45:40 but whatever. They, they definitely, uh, I, I, I don't know. I i i don't necessarily know what to do about that uh urge and that demand being there you know yeah and it's like does this quell the urge or does this make the fantasy of harming people in real life more tantalizing and i can't say which one it is.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I mean, I could play Grand Theft Auto and I've never wanted to hit a sex worker or steal a car. But that's like pretty much what you do in the game the whole time. At least that's what I did. I never completed any missions. But I never like was in life like, ooh, I really want to punch somebody or steal a car. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I don't know which way that falls. Yeah. I mean, most of the research says that it trends in the direction of people get their angst out in video games or they're just too busy playing video games to actually be out committing the crimes necessarily. Oh, good. it's not definitive uh and it's also our only protection is these fucking losers love video games sorry to the gamers listening i know there's probably a lot of you out there yeah support xbox we can never we can never defund
Starting point is 00:47:01 xbox or ps2 because otherwise yeah i'm to come out here with our guns and start playing Call of Duty for real. At the very least, these people are reacting to something they're seeing in the consuming public by putting all these conservative ideas out there. So it's like, I don't know. If you're viewing it almost like a poll, it's like, what does this say about where we are? But also, what does this say about like where we are um but also what does it say about american consumerism like it's so funny how we tried to act like we had values for so long it's like oh people really look racism is hot right now people are hating the blacks how can we profit off of that they were like we've got our new video game. Black Lives Don't Matter. You shoot everybody who's black the whole time.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Like, what? What? Catch all the hashtags you can. And like, oh my God, I'm building the game for them. Let me stop, because this is going to come out. They're like, this sounds great. They did remove the Black Fist from the game after a bunch of immediate backlash backlash uh but it's still you know
Starting point is 00:48:08 a story about people basically uprising and taking the law into their own hands which is a thing that literally happened this past weekend with outrage culture i wouldn't be shocked if they had put the fist in there knowing that people would get pissed and then that would bring a lot of publicity to the game because people love to bait black folks like that and i'm not taking the bait anymore like if you're saying some wild shit and i know that you're not a person of character like i'm not gonna retweet you i'm not gonna comment on it because i know you're just trying to like look let's because remember when burberry had that uh that uh fashion line they had a fashion show, and they just threw some nooses on everybody real quick before they went out?
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yeah. And the nooses, they had to do nothing with nothing? They're like, what? I'm like, how do we get people to make people mad? Right. They're like, how do we get people to talk about this show? I don't know. Get some nooses.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Jesus Christ. I'm not falling for it anymore. Yeah. All right. Let's take another break it anymore. Yeah. All right. Let's take another break and we'll be right back. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists.
Starting point is 00:49:27 But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes.
Starting point is 00:49:53 We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that.
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Starting point is 00:51:02 Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels,
Starting point is 00:51:22 into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? I mean, the Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader. You choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Segregation academies. When civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up.
Starting point is 00:52:12 In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite.
Starting point is 00:52:40 I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron, and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And just a horrible weekend in terms of losing cultural icons. After we recorded Monday's episode and the trending episode on Friday, it was announced that Chadwick Boseman
Starting point is 00:53:32 had passed from colon cancer, that he had been fighting for four years without really revealing it to the public. And I don't know, it was shocking and traumatizing, I think, for a lot of people. And then the weekend ended with John Thompson, the coach of Georgetown for many years, the first black coach to win the national championship in the NCAA. I wanted to go to Georgetown when I was growing up because their teams were just so cool. Passed away in his 70s, I think 78, but also just very tragic. I don't really have much to say about that, but I did want to kind of acknowledge it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:20 I've only seen Chadwick Boseman in person one time and it was outside of the UCB theater and I looked at him he was just like standing with someone like I was leaving a show and I looked at him and he saw me recognize his face and I saw him kind of like gear up for like okay I gotta do Wakanda forever
Starting point is 00:54:39 I gotta take this photo and I was like no I'm not gonna bother this king so I just gave him a head nod and I smiled and he smiled at me and i was like no i'm not gonna bother this king so i just gave him a head nod and i smiled and he smiled at me and it was the simplest interaction but it was very sweet and everyone who i know who knows him or knew him rather had something positive to say my friend travis was like i didn't even recognize him and i left my wallet at home at starbucks and he paid for my coffee and then everyone was like no bruh Starbucks and he paid for my coffee. And then everyone was like, no, bruh, Black Panther just paid for your coffee. Like, and it's weird. It's not weird. I guess it is weird in Hollywood because it doesn't happen often where when someone passes away,
Starting point is 00:55:15 so many people have so much like positive to say about you. He never really had any scandals. And to be that famous and not have people coming for you like that it really speaks to your character as a human being um it was very hard for me because it just feels like this year like black people haven't been allowed to have nice things oh god yeah um yeah a lot of people looked up to him white kids black kids and to have like a black man that you could look up to actually really was a good person and have him taken so young was just so deeply disappointing. And I cried a lot and I called my friends. It was like my cousin died or something.
Starting point is 00:55:50 It was kind of weird to me because I was like, I don't know this man. But I am like torn up. So, yeah, that's all I have to say about that. Yeah, I just was so it was such a uniquely sad story that he had that for so long. And it became clear after, like, I think there was a quote that he said, like, you'll one day know, like, the story. But it seemed he had such, like, a powerful presence, almost in the way that you feel of, like, a priest or someone, like, holy. you feel of like um like a priest or or someone like holy there was something about him where like he was so he was so clearly like aware of his legacy for so long and the way that he treated people and like just like i don't know there's something very regal and just about him where he
Starting point is 00:56:41 just seems so special and so kind and like purposeful i thought it was just so sad he's amazing and he shot five movies like i believe it's like four or five movies while he was going to chemo and having surgeries which to me is just and like not telling people because i understand why because people are so fucking mean like they were saying um when he was getting really thin they were calling him like crack panther and shit like the internet is such a horrible place and he still didn't say anything he was like deleting pictures because people were like posting them on the shade room fuck the shade room so like that's just i think that that was also a big moment one of my
Starting point is 00:57:21 friends on twitter key was tweeting like you never know what people are going through and we really need to try to stop for a moment and be kind instead of immediately immediately ridiculing like thinking about that just for a second like what if this person is going through something and that's why their appearance has changed versus being like they're on drugs you know what i mean right yeah i just thought it was also like he he knew like what he was doing in his like ability as an actor was so much bigger than him that he just kept quiet and was like i'm gonna try and do put out all this amazing work before i go because i know it's bigger than me like i i thought it was just amazing yeah and it couldn't be me if If I had cancer, God forbid, God forbid, everybody go no child. Everywhere I go, I'm going to be in the line of Starboard like, excuse me, excuse me, I don't got much time.
Starting point is 00:58:13 I got to go first, okay? I'm dying. I would have told everybody. I would have told everybody and their mama. So he's just, he's incredible. Yeah. All right. So he's just, he's incredible.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Yeah. All right. So the NBA did come back over the weekend after taking some time for what was basically a wildcat strike with the players striking. The players union got involved. They got some concessions from some of the owners that, you know, we have to see if the owners actually follow through on those actions that they agreed to. I would have expected because we were all so bored and so ready for sports to come back when the NBA came back. And I was expecting it to be higher than it's ever been, and it's actually been lower than usual. And they're also, as I was kind of thinking about that, the news broke that there really haven't been any convention bounces from either the RNC or DNC. And those were both unique from previous conventions in the sense that they were a different format. It wasn't a bunch of people walking out on the stage, but there was no crowd.
Starting point is 00:59:41 and a bunch of people walking out onto stage, but there was no crowd. And it just seems like maybe the energy that a crowd kind of brings to anything that you're watching or especially being there is just something that I, it's like sort of an ineffable thing that you can't like scientifically quantify, but it's definitely absolutely real and probably underrated in our
Starting point is 01:00:06 modern world or had been underrated until this pandemic. We always need a confirmation of reality. So I feel like at comedy shows, it's like you hear other people laugh and you're like, yeah, we're all having fun here. Or I mean, that's why you don't tape a standup special without a crowd. You know what I mean? Like you always have one. And then with basketball, it's the same thing. fun here or i mean that's why you don't tape a stand-up special without a crowd you know i mean like you always have one and then with basketball it's the same thing i think it's that energy and watching other people i didn't realize how it was the connective tissue you know in this situation and that's also been surprising to me too because like i was saying at the mtv awards i was like it was freaking me out that they put laugh tracks under things I was like oh yeah it's so weird but I mean
Starting point is 01:00:47 more people always equals more energy like when you walk in any big event I think people in every sort of way all types of big gatherings like missing that because like even before if you go to
Starting point is 01:01:03 like a concert even before it starts you can feel that feeling or, like, a big game. So, I don't know. It makes sense to me that that could have an effect on things for sure. It's probably also affecting the players. Like, I imagine, like, you're out there, you're used to people screaming and shouting and, like, hyping you up. And now it's just, like, y'all are playing, like, scrimmage basketball. I heard they were adding squeaks.
Starting point is 01:01:29 So that it seems like they're cutting and actually running hard, they're adding squeaks. Could you guys talk some shit, please? Who's editing this? I know. Are we going to edit in heckles? end in heckles right gonna get a couple hecklers in there yeah i mean we we've i i have a theory that it's making the defense worse because people are you need the crowd energy the home crowd energy to like get you up for defense but
Starting point is 01:02:00 like offensively we're seeing people do like unbelievable shit and it's just like they've always been capable of that if the defense was just like 10 percent worse and just people like offense has its own rewards is like watching the ball go through the hoop and uh but like playing defense you have to like really draw on something else draw on like all your energy to give a shit about stopping someone because it's so easy to miss you know yeah i also wonder like subconsciously there's so much other shit going on in the world like that's so much bigger like for anyone in any job it's gotta be like a little bit less easy to focus you know yeah and i was just gonna say after watching the
Starting point is 01:02:43 last dance um when jordan basically was saying that he had no competition, so he had to make up beefs with people so that he could beat them. I'm like, I guess y'all got to get out there on the defense and just take it personally. Make up some things that they said about your mama before y'all played because there's no crowd. That's what separated them. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:03:04 When I watched that, I was like, this man is unwell. Anyone at the, I was like, oh, wow. To be at the top, you have to be very unwell.
Starting point is 01:03:15 To be at the top and to stay at the top, like you really need. You have to be in a fight at all times. Yes. You have to make the fight up. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:03:27 And that was all I needed. Yeah. And that was something that like the ratings were just through the roof. And that's kind of why I thought like when the NBA comes back, it's going to be wild. But instead, I think we need that. I think we need that crowd. I think we need that, you know, that crowd i think we need that uh you
Starting point is 01:03:46 know people because in all the jordan clips there were crowds jerry kraus is dead oh they talked cash shit about him if he had been alive i feel like nobody in that documentary would have went as hard as they did i was shocked i have a controversial opinion on him because you know opinion on him because you know as an athlete and it's the same thing to me as a comedy booker who takes credit for all the talent bitch you've never played a game in your life you haven't done shit and a lot of people are like yes but he made the most winning uh franchise and he was cut through i'm like no honey he thought he he was Jordan, and you're not Jordan. You can barely run, okay? He could not wait to break that team apart
Starting point is 01:04:32 so he could show everybody that it was really him who had been the magic man behind the curtain. Such a hater. And there was somebody, I forget who, in the last dance, who was like, yeah, he was an ugly little man. I think that had to do with it. And I was like, damn. He's dead.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Y'all going to call him an ugly little man? I was so mad at him. Everyone was like, they're too hard on Jerry Krause. I was like, no, bitch. They said the truth. And that was that he is not a basketball player. And to break up the best team of of all time i'm still mad even though he's dead the book that is about the exact same thing uh the it's called uh playing for keeps and
Starting point is 01:05:15 it's about that last season and uh jerry kraus and like you know covers all the same stuff it's by david halberstam who's like one of the best sports writers. And it comes to the exact same conclusion that you just did. It's just like this dude can't get out of his own way, can't stop saying just wild shit that's like, well, they couldn't have done it without me. I put everybody, and it's almost they portray him as a tragic figure
Starting point is 01:05:42 because he can't help himself. Yeah, his ego is bigger than the people It's almost they portray him as a tragic figure because he can't help himself. Yeah, his ego is bigger than the people that are actually doing the work or the art. That's like when these comedy bookers go off on, they make all these big proclamations about comedy and that they know what's best about comedy. And it's like, you have never stepped on stage a day in your life you truly have no idea
Starting point is 01:06:07 and you're not the artist yeah yeah also like middlemen are a scammer position someone has always figured out how to separate people like the the art from from the money yeah and they slide in they're like i this is what i do for you. Like, it's like, you know. And there's, they know that. Like, it's kind of a weird comparison, but like that knowledge that they've never been on there, like even if they don't consciously think about it, it's in their mind somewhere where they're just like, there's like some insecurity building up inside them.
Starting point is 01:06:43 That's why they do, you know, terrible things things and are terrible to people who don't deserve it because there's insecurity. you are constantly aware of this contradiction of like, even if you have never put it into words in your mind, there is part of you that knows that you were born with an unfair advantage and continue to live with one. And I think that's where a lot of the just toxicity and hatred is like trying to deny that. And it's like this dissonance that like eats away and like, you know, really fucks a culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Yeah. And trying to like scapegoat people are always looking for a reason why, you know, black people who have been unfairly murdered deserved it. Yeah. Because that's always and that's not even just for black people who have been unfairly murdered deserved it yeah because that's always and that's not even just for black people like i see white men do that with women and sexual assault all the time it's like or when megan the stein got shot in the foot and i looked at the comments and that's black men looked at the comments and they're like well what did she do and it's like there's nothing that she could have done to deserve this little tiny man shooting her in the foot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:06 Cognitive dissonance. But for everyone is crazy. And it's so much about like what we've ingested like unconsciously and subconsciously like throughout our lives from when we were like little kids. That's crazy. Yeah. And everyone has to deal with it. It's not just white people. So I wish that maybe if we all recognize that and weren't like this is something And everyone has to deal with it. It's not just white people. So I wish that maybe if we all recognize that and weren't like, this is just something
Starting point is 01:08:28 that I have to deal with, then we could be like, oh, okay, everyone has a privilege that they have to check or realize that they've had their whole life and deal with it instead of trying to blame the people who don't have things. Well, guys, it's been a pleasure having you both
Starting point is 01:08:43 on the Daily Zeitgeist. Blair, where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Blair Saki, B-L-A-I-R-S-O-C-C-I on Instagram and Twitter. And is there a tweet or some other act of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. I had two tweets that made me laugh. One was from Ruth Buzzy or Boozy. And it was,
Starting point is 01:09:10 when one door closes, another one opens. Other than that, it's a pretty good car. And then this other one from Martha Kelly, my friend Martha, I love so much.
Starting point is 01:09:25 And she said, I'm starting an everyone except fans account where I put even more clothes on. That's amazing. Laci, where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? So as always, guys, you can find me at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I-D-V-A-L-A-C-E on all platforms. And listen to my podcast, Scam Goddess. The most recent episode is about Sean. Oh, actually, the second to most recent episode is about Sean King and how he's a scammer. If you are interested in learning by why you should not support him.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And then the tweet that I'm enjoying, it's like a several, a series of tweets because I've just really been into like baby Twitter is what I call it. Where there's like just a section of Twitter where people just talk shit about babies. And I think it's so fun. So this one's the first one's babies be like, help me or I will literally die. Babies are so lazy. Babies honestly need to fucking relax they need a reality check honestly why do babies feel the need to risk their life whenever you're not around babies are so manipulative follow me if you think babies are canceled and the entitlement makes me sick
Starting point is 01:10:38 they gotta eat every single day uh like you need to learn how to fend for themselves? It's really unreasonable. I completely agree. Like, oh my God, grow the fuck up. Oh my God. There's so many. If you want to get
Starting point is 01:10:53 all the handles for those people, it's on Embracing Black Culture, which is a very fun meme account that is about embracing black culture.
Starting point is 01:11:01 So, yeah. Awesome. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'brien a couple tweets i liked uh lumberzak tweeted extremely rude of the target self-checkout camera to show me exactly what i look like uh and then kamal nanjiani tweeted i get a penny every time i see
Starting point is 01:11:19 a straight couple with the woman wearing a mask and the man not wearing a mask. And anyway, I'm about to purchase the tech giant Apple. I saw that. Oh my God. Oh, I also wanted to say I have a podcast about to come out called The Blair and Greta Show with Greta Teitelman. So look out for that. Former guest. That show will be hilarious
Starting point is 01:11:45 alright guys you can find me on twitter you can find us on twitter we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information
Starting point is 01:12:00 that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. And Lacey, is there a song that you would like to ride out on today? No, we got to get into these Adele reggae remixes. Okay. She is our Jamaican king. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:21 So this is a remix to I Set Fire to the Rain, which actually sounds very good as a reggae song. Yeah. Wagwan Adele, sis, wagwan. All right, we're going to ride out on that. We'll also put links in the footnotes to a bunch of other songs. This is a new vein that the internet has struck that is just giving us non-stop gold The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of
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