The Daily Zeitgeist - Hunter Guilty = Trump Innocent? Ashton Kutcher: AI Shill 06.13.24

Episode Date: June 13, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I mean yeah Claire you're definitely our people with your your shortening of words I've noticed in your your rhetorical stylings proceed like that I mean I think we all called a bobo I mean I feel like that became we're all saying a bobo these days yeah yeah we call yeah and we are all saying that but just uh did you call it a bobo? We would just say bobos. Oh, yeah, that's a bobo right there. Rather than an abobo. It's regional.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Yeah, it must be regional. What dialect do you speak? Bitch. Oh, okay. 100% that bitch. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:01:05 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti.
Starting point is 00:01:52 And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio
Starting point is 00:02:17 app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 342 episode 4 of their daily production of my heart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is thursday june 13th 2024 a near miss for those of us who are deathly afraid of Friday the 13th. Dude, I just realized we missed 6-9, our greatest holiday. We did? Yeah, yeah. That doesn't seem like it.
Starting point is 00:02:54 That was a Sunday. It was a Sunday. That's why. That was it. Just remember, we still do recognize 6-9 in this house. It's the new 420. Over 420. Yeah, over 420.
Starting point is 00:03:03 It's always 6-9 all day. But June 13th is national golf cart day national random acts of lights day okay i missed me with that one national kitchen klutzes of america day national weave your garden day national sewing machine day national career nurses assistance day nurse assistance things. I was just too distracted on June 9th to, you know what I mean? Too busy celebrating. Too busy celebrating. Yeah, exactly, man.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Just watching Marilyn Manson interviews. Trying to figure out how I, do I need to remove a rib to achieve this? I don't quite know. Is that a six? Does that count? I don't know. I mean. A self 69? Yeah. A self. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. We'll have a six? Does that count? I don't know. I mean. A self 69?
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah. A self. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to. We'll ask the listeners. What does that count?
Starting point is 00:03:50 That's what SSN stands for for me. People ask me, what's my SSN? I said, I wish. Self 69. No. So your social security. We're trying to make sure you have insurance. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Learn your hues, my preschool son. Teach me green when you are done. Roy G. Biv when I get dressed. What's magenta for? That is courtesy of Salvador Jolly on the Discord. In reference to Miles not knowing what the primary colors are, what the secondary colors are. I don't see color, man. I don't see color.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah. Just at all. I'm caught. Which also extends to the fact that I'm ignorant about anything to do with actual colors as well. That's right. Yeah. It kind of translates to people who say that about race. But yeah, and also reference to magenta, the new primary color that I have petitioned my kids' school board about this fucking...
Starting point is 00:04:55 They're going to change the primary colors? Not in my America, I'll tell you that much. Wait, the magenta is a primary color now? Yeah, that's what they're saying. They're saying magenta instead of red. Whatever. Look, see, that's why I have peace, because I'm not involved in all this. Everything's got to be different.
Starting point is 00:05:12 You know what I mean? Yeah. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Miles nominated for the best role else. It's how we handle 6.8 stress so well. Okay. Shout out. Obviously, that's an MF to him.
Starting point is 00:05:27 That's from Mad Villain, America's Most Blended. Shout out La Caroni for that one. Because, yes, I have been nominated for the best role else. And it is how truly it's how I handled this 6.8 weeks debacle stress so well. So thank you for that, La Caroni. Yeah. Very true. Very true.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Very true. That Academy Award category goes way back. But a lot of people. Best role else. Yeah. Very true. Very true. Very true. That Academy Award category goes way back, but a lot of people, I guess they moved it. Yeah, best rolled L's. They moved it out of the main telecast. So now it's with
Starting point is 00:05:52 the Arts and Sciences Awards. They give it out in the parking lot behind Hollywood and Highland. That's right. Yeah. Well, Miles, we are thrilled
Starting point is 00:05:59 to be joined in our third seat by an actor, comedian, and writer who's written for SpongeBob SquarePants. Ever heard of it? Shrill? SNL?
Starting point is 00:06:11 Ever heard of it? Was the pseudo host of Viceland's Flophouse, which I will always bring up because that's where I first saw her. She's performed Edinburgh Fringe Fest, Bridgetown, all the festivals. Her new special, Everything I Know How to Do, is out now, and it is hilarious. Please welcome Claire O'Kane! Claire! What up?
Starting point is 00:06:35 What up? Claire, thanks so much for, you know, I was reading your bio, and I, too, have been described as, quote, sarcastic and, quote, half Asian. I believe that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good to have you here. What kind of sarcastic and quote half asian so i believe that yeah yeah yeah it's good it's good what kind of um sarcastic are you uh japanese awesome yeah it's japanese sarcasm yeah yeah yeah in filipino yeah okay well my boo hi uh thanks for coming on i was gonna say a word that i was i was gonna say konnichiwa and then yeah but that feels somehow racist even
Starting point is 00:07:09 though that is japanese cool i can actually speak for miles on this one it's fine i say it to him all the time he dude he fucking loves it that's awesome let me just cut in here uh he loves when i start singing turning japanese he loves that yeah yeah i love that i love well happy to be a part of the clan here yeah yeah welcome it's a strange one it's a strange where are you coming to us from claire i'm uh here in brooklyn new york brooklyn new york lovely brooklyn new york how how is it it's summertime here. Summertime is popping off in a pretty heavy way. Is that New York stench in the air? The summer stench in the area quite yet?
Starting point is 00:07:50 The piss has not made it to the air yet, but the garbage has. I was going to say, yeah. Yeah, it's not hot enough for the piss to kind of sizzle up. Yeah, it's still early in the season for that dimension. There's a long read on how they're trying to fix the New York garbage collection system. And yeah, just all sorts of interesting information. I don't like their chances. But one of the facts they had in there is that if you ever throw something away, you can like call 311 and they will hold the garbage before it goes on the barge. And you have, they'll dump the entire garbage truck and you have an hour to find the, the thing that you threw accidentally threw away.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like they created a game show. That's so cool. Isn't that cool? And they were like, yeah, they were like, people usually find it like pizza. But it's that organized.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You can be like, I live on a leaker. My shit was picked up. And they're like, all right. They're like, okay, we know which trash truck that is. You got an hour, pal. Yeah, you got an hour to get to the docks. And then you're going to have an hour to look through, to comb through your block's garbage. What is the system? i thought it was just just pile it up on the sidewalk right it's pilot up on the sidewalk but they're changing that
Starting point is 00:09:12 because of rats and because the mayor doesn't want to solve other more important problems yeah yeah he wants to party he kind of just wants to party and be vegan, which is awesome for him. And we love that. He's so cool. He reversed his own diabetes. And that's kind of his whole thing. With veganism? He cured his own diabetes?
Starting point is 00:09:38 And hanging out with hot women? Yeah. That'll do it. Every time. That'll do it. But they're trying to implement a you know, like a dumpster system where everybody has, like, every building has their own sort of dumpster thing.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Oh, right. Collectively. But I don't understand that the rats will be respectful of and not enter. Yeah. They look up and go, I see what's going on here. I feel like Mayor Adams doesn't want us in here, man. Yeah. You look up at it and go. Rats respect a dumpster. I see what's going on here. I feel like Mayor Adams doesn't want us in here, man.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah. You know what? Let's pack it up, y'all. Pack it up. Take it back underground. Yeah. Let's go to Boston. Were you in, Jack, when you were talking about how the rat czar was failing at their job in New York?
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah, I believe so. The appointed rat czar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a lot of stuff in flux right there. Didn't the mayor's own brownstone get condemned for being a rat hotspot
Starting point is 00:10:33 at one point? Probably. It's the rat hotspot, okay. It's like a line and shit? Yeah, exactly. There's a line in the brownspot. It's the hotspot. The music was bumping. Really sexy little rats.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. You should see them. They're dressed impeccably well for rats. Low-cut jeans. Crazy. They're bad to have that ass. Rats kind of have big old asses. I can respect.
Starting point is 00:11:05 You checking out the rat ass out here? I was thinking about rats wearing the low-cut jeans and I was like, they do kind of have They got the apple bottom jeans, the bodies with the fur. Yeah, I get it. Alright, Claire, we're going to
Starting point is 00:11:21 get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about from the news. You've seen this? You heard about this news stuff? Oh, yeah. to get off and that this is just the tip of the iceberg of the joe biden crime family so we're going to talk about that there's just been a bunch of wild shit about ai art that i wanted to talk about there there's this article that published a couple weeks ago that hollywood nightmare new streaming service lets viewers create their own shows using ai and there's this like studio called fable where you i guess just like put a prompt in and it generates a show that sucks and like
Starting point is 00:12:16 and they're like and this and this is going to replace entertainment that doesn't suck and the thing that they point to the description is this. Did you guys see the AI generated South Park? Yeah. Oh, it's it's a fucking. It's so bad. Like it fucking bums me out. Like it to like it.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I think it gave me depression just like watching it like clinic, like a depression that I can't cure. Like is so bad. It's so strange like it makes you feel crazy and sleepy at the same time it's very strange so i want to talk about that i want to talk about the ashton kutcher and the tribeca film festival trying to make ai movies happen all of that plenty more but first claire we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:13:08 Or you could tell us the most recent thing that you screencast. I googled Tim Meadows. Hey, how's he doing? I love that. Awesome. He's doing good. I wanted to see how old he was, and he's 63.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Is he really? Looks great every time I see him. He looks really good, because I was on Instagram instagram he popped up and i go what's up with him these days he's one of my favorites yeah so good one of my favorite snl sketches where he plays a guy named dr poop you guys ever see this no i don't think i've seen dr you're gonna want to look that up and post that it It's pretty crazy. Oh, wow. I was at a very specific age when The Ladies Man came out, where me and all my friends were like,
Starting point is 00:13:50 this is an underrated masterpiece. And watched it like dozens of times. He's so good. Yeah, he's so good. And you were saying Courvoisier with a lisp? Yes, I was. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That was absolutely, had to if you're a ladies' man.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah. Unreal. Wow. 63. He managed to keep it, I'm glad he's not like, so many times when you look up past SNL cast members, like, if you really start digging it, like, oh, they're, why aren't they canceled? Like, no one's talking about this. This is weird. I don't like this section of what i'm
Starting point is 00:14:26 reading but tim meadows god glad to know you're out there doing the good things i hope shit i hope he i think there's a girls five eva plot maybe where like one of them is trying to date tim meadows and it goes like he's recently divorced and it's fun oh and they got their eye on him okay they got their eye on him they like see him on the dating apps or something like that wow as himself as tim meadows tim meadows as tim meadows yeah yeah display name yeah so i think there i think there might be a few people checking for Tim Meadows. What is something, Claire, that you think is overrated? Texting.
Starting point is 00:15:14 What do you mean? Texting as the primary form of communication. I think it's overrated. I think often things get lost in translation with punctuation and capitalization. I think people need to stop expecting me personally to text them back right away. I find texting. You got to let it marinate. You got to let it marinate.
Starting point is 00:15:39 You got to let it marinate. It's not natural to communicate with each other this quickly. Right. In this fashion. It's not natural to communicate with each other this quickly. Right. In this fashion. It's not natural. I feel like I wish they took like used like switched iMessage, like AOL Instant Messenger, where you hear like a door open. You're like, oh, who signed on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Oh, shit. It's my boy. Hey, what's up? What's up? What's up? Oh, hey, you're on here. Oh, the door closed. Well, ding dong. Guess later.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Guess later. I feel like that was because that was the beginning of sort of like, hey, why aren't you talking to me? Because back then it's like, yeah, because my ass is sat right in front of this fucking computer talking to you. Yeah. Yeah. Now with it in the hand, like we can't have that. I'm terrible at responding right away. Most of the time.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Me too. And away message even just say, I'll get back one of these. Hey, I'm sorry, but I'll get back one of these hey i'm sorry but i'll get back too shortly when what is that four hours or four days yeah break yeah people do you have people coming at you for not responding quickly i'm guessing yeah for what like real stuff they're like please help me i need i need a ride now to the doctor i'm in big trouble i'm gonna actually turn my phone off um no i i well i'm just generally a bad texter texter backer unless it is important but if it's not important and it's just like hey what are you doing next sunday next yeah right and know, I understand like the feelings of, you know, that sort of everyday rejection we go through when somebody doesn't answer right away and you're asking them out or asking them to do something.
Starting point is 00:17:13 But I'm just like. Wait, so you're saying if we call you on the phone, then I'm going to respond. I'm picking up. Really? Okay. Yeah. Both of those things stress me out but yeah phone calls i feel like much less stressful than having a text that's just sitting there you know unresponded to
Starting point is 00:17:34 well then there's also like that stress like that you have like when you see someone calling that you haven't talked to on the phone a long time you're like oh what the fuck is going on i'm like we're normally texting or are you calling now what the fuck yeah because that means death yeah something like that it's like oh my god hello did you die oh my god are you dead are you dying right now yeah oh you have my deadwood dvds still oh okay yeah yeah yeah yeah bring yeah just bring them over you can leave them out by the door i'll be all right right. Thanks. Oh, thank fucking God. Yeah. And you were saying, thanks fucking God, because you really wanted those dead wood DVDs back.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yeah, yeah. Don't know how to watch it on streaming. I'm still... You don't care about their health. You're just... No, no, no, no, no. It's all about the wood. Yeah. When there's like a group chat and like everybody's just like bing, bang, boom.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Like there's just like texts flying back and forth. I will frequently get too stressed out to respond oh i've seen that happen where i feel like we'll text about a game with jabari and like jabari and i start going off on something and slowly i'm like how can jack can't respond this is fuck these are fire fucking texts right now not even a tap back on anything and then it's like 70 messages you, sorry, that was a lot to catch up on. A lot to catch up on right there. I get it. I always keep my phone on me.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Life comes at you fast. Life does. And it's not true that I don't keep my phone on me. I'm just sitting there trying to come up with something to text and just sweat pouring down. Just being like, oh, it's too late there are already four more that's where ai would really help you jack yeah find something witty to
Starting point is 00:19:12 reply about this conversation about kendrick lamar please everyone's just ai bots texting with other ai bots that's the dream according to the founder of Bumble. Oh yeah. Right. I bought dates, another AI bot and for, for you. And that's how you get to know each other.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Whoa. Yeah. That's the, that's what they, they're promising with this AI stuff. It sounds too good to be true. Claire, what is something you think is underrated? Documentaries.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Okay. Okay. What you watching as an, as anaries. Okay. What are you watching? As an art form. I just saw this one called Sperm World. Have you seen this? No, but I'm intrigued. What's it about?
Starting point is 00:19:55 My favorite theme park. My dream life. It's about these guys who do these sort of unsanctioned sperm giving to people women who want to have kids it's it's like not they're describing like masturbating on the subway well i mean they're not as well yeah like what the fuck is yeah not through clinic, but people who like offer their services like personally. Yeah, like on Craigslist, guys are like, I have sperm, I have 20 confirmed children out there. Like, I have strong sperm.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I can sell it to you for however much. And, you know, it's always sort of a desperate. There's desperation on both sides. Right. They're not charging that much. There are scenes of there's this one guy who always kind of has a big gulp and a cup of his own jizz. And he's in a parking in a parking lot, like leaning into a minivan being like, here it is. This is for you. You don't want to get in that. It's hand-delivered?
Starting point is 00:21:07 It's often hand-delivered or sometimes traditional, right? Do a traditional stuff. Intercourse. This is the right time to do it. Let's do it now. Wow. It's really gross.
Starting point is 00:21:23 It really sucks. That sounds like a bad... They're not trying to be like can we kiss or like they're like yo man just just make the deposit and leave yeah well the guys are like okay so um this is what we're gonna do this is how we'll do it let me know if at any point you're uncomfortable and i recommend right when um you know the seed is planted you going to want to like sit up and raise your like, they're like, it's a whole system they've got down. Yeah, this is so I watch 90 Day Fiance a lot. And there's a guy. Yeah, also a documentary.
Starting point is 00:21:56 But ironically, there's a guy on this season right now who does this. Like he has he's like a prolific sperm donor and he's in a relationship and his girlfriend's like you have to stop this like and he's like this is my gift to the world and he's always wearing basketball shorts because he's like concerned about his sperm count and overheating his nutsack and takes all these supplements and he's like i actually have like 40 times the volume of sperm than like a normal person's ejaculation and he's like so but he has like this weird fucking god complex too it's really he's a really like i'm imagining it's probably the same shit like people yeah totally these guys have these guys have a complex and it's complex yeah it's a complex yes really freaky yeah wow yeah you learn every you learn a lot yeah yeah wait so how did you documentaries how
Starting point is 00:22:46 did you find sperm world because that feels like some shit i wish the algorithms were like bro you're gonna want to watch this i just heard it about it through a friend i think it was on it might have been like fx or something like that and uh this guy just put out another documentary called ren fair oh i'm watching that. Yeah, it's a sit by the same guy. Is it shot the same way or no? It's really beautifully shot. Sperm world is shot?
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah, yeah. Beautifully? Oh, because Ren Faire is very cinematic to the point that I felt it was like really blurring the lines of like if it was fiction or not. But all, I just listened to an interview with him and he was saying like, no, no, no. Like they're performers. So it just has that feeling of like drama because they're also way too
Starting point is 00:23:29 invested in this run fair. Big time. Yeah. Basketball shorts thing is such a funny detail. She fucking hates it. She's like, why are you always dressed like this? Like he's on a year,
Starting point is 00:23:40 like she lives in Malta and he's like coming from the U S and she's like, dude, the weather's nice. Like, you're always wearing these basketball shirts. Like, I have to worry about overheating. And it's, like, so just strange. My moneymaker down there, you know? Yeah, in a way, if this dude pulled up and he's like, I'm here to inseminate you,
Starting point is 00:23:57 you'd be like, you know what? Now that I'm kind of seeing your whole, like, vibe, no. Yeah. I don't care how potent your your seed is but yeah they pride themselves on that that's amazing yeah all right well uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about hunter biden we'll be right back i'm jess casetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling first-hand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
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Starting point is 00:26:15 without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:27:05 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back we're back hunter biden's like an unofficial one of those guys right like he's he's got a lot of babies out there there's a guy in sperm world who's got a very similar Hunter Biden vibe. Similar vibe?
Starting point is 00:27:46 About drugs. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Not worried about what that might do to his sperm, right? Like a lot of drug use. Can't imagine that's great for the old seed, but hey. Makes him swim fast.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah. Makes them hungry. Makes his sperm hungry. I'm telling you, these tadpoles are tweaking. I'm telling you. They havepoles are tweaking. I'm telling you. They have really good ideas. Yeah, yeah. I feel like Hunter Biden is like, well, you know, not, I don't think he's like anyone's model, you know, role model necessarily.
Starting point is 00:28:16 But I do feel like he's like destigmatizing crack use somehow. Yeah, somehow. Yeah. All it took was a white person you know yeah and like also somebody who like the all that testimony where they're like yeah he would just smoke crack and listen to the fleet foxes which is like a like really laid-back chill band and right they're like and then he'd be like really nice and sweet and like i kind of fell in love with him a little bit was that he's just like was that bo's widow pipes no that wasn't because she didn't she say she smoked crack with
Starting point is 00:28:50 him too oh did she yeah she was wow we beamed up yeah yeah she's like i didn't know what to do she's like but yeah i we did beam up together damn so what a run from that guy. Yeah, yeah. He was found guilty of three felonies on Tuesday. I actually didn't know this was illegal in America. Yeah. You can't have a gun and be on drugs at the same time? You can be on drug and be a violent domestic abuser? Right. Or have a gun and be a domestic abuser?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah. But again, yeah yeah because i think again those are obviously racist gun laws i think there's a very specific they're like oh drug charge no no no not for you not for you domestic abuse then that would mean a cop can't have a gun i certainly didn't know is illegal for the president's son you know it seems like the sort of thing they'd normally get away with but like yeah man the the right is having like such a weird time with this verdict because like since Biden took office, right, the emphasis has been on like this Biden crime family fucking narrative that you always hear on Fox News and from the right wing talker sphere. And they just can't get it to pop because there's just no evidence of this we saw like they tried to go through with an impeachment of joe biden vis-a-vis hunter but like well like they're
Starting point is 00:30:09 like if hunter biden's bad if so facto joe biden is also bad and then we must find the evidence and then they're like we don't we can't really find any shit to do this yeah so just bad casting like joe biden does not seem competent or you know like he doesn't seem like the type of person who could be the head of a crime family yeah when you see that movie they made about hunter and like they had to like turn him into this like kaiser soze like type thing who's like all of a sudden becomes this like sinister motherfucker behind the scenes like he just told has a complete personality shift he's like that's right hunter you're doing my bidding right and you're gonna it's not like he's dick cheney or anything right right yeah like it
Starting point is 00:30:57 you could with the clintons that's good casting like bill clinton you're like yeah of course that guy's like fucking up and you know having sex with anything that will allow him and uh sometimes not and you know like it's just the joe biden it just doesn't i don't i don't think he's just too fucking boring yeah you know what i mean yeah you can't map anything on to joe aside from like literally sleepy. Like as even Trump said, I'm like, I buy sleepy Joe Biden. I buy that. I would even buy World War I ghost Joe Biden. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. Like they might have a better time. Like, I think this guy's a fucking World War I ghost. Are we okay with this? Yeah. He's just stuck in between worlds. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:43 This doesn't, he just doesn't really know. We gotta help him. Yeah. He needs to right in between worlds. Yeah. Yeah. We gotta help him. Yeah, he needs to right his wrongs. Do you think this will change the rights view of sort of the justice system in general with Trump being convicted and all this? No. Well, this is the thing, right? Because everything is also, they have to also keep the other narrative going that the Justice Department has been weaponized against all conservatives. They're rounding up conservative parents or January Sixers. Like, well, yeah, I mean, the people who fucking stormed the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Y'all were surprised anyway. So then if you look at right, Trump being prosecuted for all of the shit that he's done in the hush money shit, weaponized DOJ is what they cry and scream and fundraise off of. Then when Robert Herr, who's another special counsel, who was also a Trump appointee, looked at the Biden sort of documents thing that he had some documents in his garage. He was just like, yeah, honestly, like I really can't find any evidence to prosecute this at all. And they're like, oh, wow, weaponized DOJ. They're protecting him. It's like that guy's a fucking Trump appointee. And then that is one crime that i can imagine him doing right just like misplacing some shit next to an old look did i put this yeah calling his kids to ask them like how to find something or yeah you're not
Starting point is 00:32:59 making airplanes with that those papers again are you i think the box of papers was like in a garage like next to an old antique car it's like yeah that's joe biden like none of this like and then i'm gonna like you know make a deal with a shady company to enrich myself yeah i can do that outwardly under the guise of yeah yeah. There's legal ways to do that. Yeah. But yeah. And now that Hunter Biden has been found guilty, they're like, oh, well, the other stuff is easy to say that they were ready. Like, so, for example, Charlie Kirk said, quote, Hunter Biden guilty. Yawn.
Starting point is 00:33:41 The true crimes of the Biden crime family remain untouched. This is a fake trial trying to make the justice system appear balanced. Don't fall for it. Then you have Mr. Teenage Mutant Ninja Goebbels, Stephen Miller, out here saying, quote, the gun charges are giant misdirection. An easy opportunity for the Justice Department to hoodwink a pliant media that is all too willing to be duped. Don't be gaslit. This is all about protecting Joe Biden and only Joe Biden. So, again, it's also important to note here that the prosecutor that just secured this conviction against Hunter Biden, guess who he was fucking appointed by? Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Okay? So you have a Trump appointee who took a case case to trial, presented the facts and got a conviction. But somehow this is an example of how no fair the judicial system also is. But I think, again, for them, it's a lot easier to raise money when one of your guys is found guilty. And then you can always be like, exactly, man, they're trying to fuck with us. But when your opponent is also subjected to the same legal system, you have to pivot quick and now it's like oh no they're just doing this to distract now like that's not even like yeah maybe it worked but it's just it's a distraction don't believe it do we think there was a point where they like came to joe biden they were like do we like do you want
Starting point is 00:34:58 us to protect like make sure this comes back innocent and he was just like nah man like he did the gladiator thumbs yeah yeah because i mean hunter is fucking up out there you know i'm sure that he doesn't sleep well at night for a number of reasons but like that yeah that being one of them and then also just from a public like this is kind of good for his campaign in a way because it doesn't like yeah like it fucks up their messaging that the system's being weaponized only against conservatives so like i do wonder did make me like seeing how it played out i was like oh i do wonder if like there was an opportunity for him to put his thumb on the scale and he just shrewdly chose not to yeah or he did that thing where he's like you know like the you get in trouble with the police and they call your parents they're like uh do you
Starting point is 00:35:48 want to come get your child they're like no i think he needs to learn a lesson yeah yeah yeah he's hit too many rock bottoms he needs to yeah sit in prison for just a couple days but you know it's a first offense so it's really unlikely that even that happens so it's just kind of like yeah now you can you just like you can't buy any more guns hunter no more bang bangs for you but like but all the like biden crime families that's what if he like was objecting to that he's like oh come on wait can i get my gun back well i'm not gonna stop smoking crack so uh that's my prerogative what if i keep the guns but i never
Starting point is 00:36:27 buy bullets i just think it's cool to have and to hold it so i could do stuff in the mirror like freeze motherfucker and then i'm high i can throw the bullets at you really fast i mean it seems like samurai swords would be more of a crackhead kind of thing right just like he should just have a bunch of samurai swords on the wall right there's no chance that that motherfucker doesn't have at least a couple samurai swords in at least like one of his places that he flops at yeah yeah yeah i mean uh it's i can totally see him or what was it who's uh in boogie nights the yeah yeah alfred melina style yeah just have the homie out there just throw them firecrackers around while
Starting point is 00:37:14 you just kick it in your robe and pull out your empty revolver although melina's was loaded but anyway yeah but like all this stuff always has like this undercurrent of like revenge to it. And that like, these people are so bad and because they're doing a weaponized DOJ to us, it only makes sense that when Trump is back in office, we're going to do weaponized DOJ to them because that has been the rhetoric that's really picked up in the last couple of months about, yeah, I may have to,
Starting point is 00:37:39 I may have to, you know, like the Dr. Phil thing. He's like, revenge is sometimes Dr. Phil. It is good.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I got to tell you, unfortunately, I have to disagree with you there dr phil thing he's like revenge is sometimes dr phil it is good i gotta tell you unfortunately i have to disagree with you there phil it is healthy it is doc i gotta disagree with you and like this fundraising email that came out of the trump campaign like right after this within you know hours of the the conviction uh was said the head subject line was haul out the guillotine like this is this is yeah it's an escalation but somehow nothing of it all has to do with the this is what it said remember when that sicko kathy griffin made the rounds parading my beheaded head when i was when i was president the radical left cheered obama and biden were silent and the fake news blasted it everywhere and then he goes on to be like,
Starting point is 00:38:30 the sad fact here is that this is still the sick dream of every Trump deranged lunatic out there. Stand with me. And it says, and it's not just about me. They're really coming after you. Sick, sick, sick.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And, you know, I think that's where they're going with this again, is to get the feeling that we, it'll be justified when it goes totally extrajudicial uh in a second trump administration if that happens but potentially likely yeah so is he saying haul out the guillotine like i don't know i like i know fascism's whole thing is like co-opting talking point co-opting what the left should be doing.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Right, right, right. But so is he saying like, like start beheading the Bidens? I don't know. Like, that's why it's like vague enough that you're like, yeah, yeah. We're still talking about Kathy Griffin? This does feel like it was literally written by him with the all caps 666. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, this is where him with the all caps 666. All out the guillotine.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, this is where his head is at at the moment. Yeah, they're going to start killing people at some point, it feels like. I mean, yeah, the police already do that for them. But I would say that, you know, when the trial started, these same people were basically saying, you know, like, well, the weaponized Biden DOJ is actually going to tip the scales to get a not guilty verdict like that's what they're gonna do like that was they kept being insisting like watch this shit he's gonna he's gonna walk out of there uh and then they and then they even pointed the fact that like why would his own stepmother jill biden go to the fucking trial unless she was trying to completely politicize this why would his family go to the trial uh but meanwhile you had the the literal fucking speaker of the house like
Starting point is 00:40:12 shrieking outside the courtroom when trump was on trial being like this is they're trying this is a summary execution in broad daylight so i'm not gonna obviously point out the hypocrisy there i mean i did but it's not meaningful at this point, looking at the Republicans. But yeah, this whole election narrative for them is just about how fucking corrupt the Biden crime family is, because it's certainly not going to be about policy since they literally have no ideas outside of just punishing people who want abortions or, you know, are not cishet Christian people. Yeah, that's the only policies I think we hear articulated. It's like, oh, and they're going to get it. I feel like they, at least part of the problem with this story,
Starting point is 00:40:51 is that, like, they kind of have to at least partially like Hunter Biden. Like, on the right, you know, like, having guns when the government says you shouldn't. I think there are complicated feelings all around. They see themselves in the sky, but they don't wanna. Yeah, exactly. Right. I mean, that tends to be the thing we hate most in other people is the things that remind us of ourselves.
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Starting point is 00:44:45 I don't know. Apple News. A Hollywood reporter? Probably a Hollywood reporter. One of those places that makes you subscribe or you can get it through Apple News. But the headline is Hollywood Nightmare. New streaming service lets viewers create their own shows using AI. And the promise is the generative artificial intelligence, the auto complete thing that chat GPT does is coming for streaming with the
Starting point is 00:45:09 release of a platform dedicated to AI content that allows users to create episodes with a prompt of just a couple of words. Oh, wow. What would those words be that you think you would get a good show out of step mom boobs right yeah like that makes sense to me like if you're telling me this is for porn yeah 100 that's immediately what's gonna happen and sure like if you told me that i'd be like i bet that would be pretty popular but like creating long-form entertainment that like competes with netflix
Starting point is 00:45:47 just like seems i don't like i don't even know how they think that's going to work and like so i read the article and the example i was like do they have like an example that we can look at and they have this south park deep fake that is so it's just a south park episode without jokes and where the characters instead of like doing anything just like kind of stand in a hallway and say lines toward the camera yeah but it's and like they sound like all the south park characters sound like tech bros. Like the questions are like they're. They don't. I mean, all the voices are just like they all sound like they were either voiced by just but like even the nuances between the characters.
Starting point is 00:46:33 They talk like tech bros. In this thing, right? It's like you literally pick like who's the hero of the episode? Which characters do you want in the episode? And then what's your prompt? This one says Cartman heard of the screen actors Guild Strike and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So this is what the shit sounds like.
Starting point is 00:46:51 That's ridiculous, Cartman. Is it ridiculous? Or is it so ridiculous that it just might work? No, it's definitely just ridiculous. Well then, I guess you guys won't want a cut of the profits when Queepy takes off. More for me then. There won't be any profits, Cartman.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You're going to get sued. Not if they can't prove it now if you'll excuse me i have a deep fake streaming empire to build yeah uh-huh so and then cut to next scene where they're just delivering lines like i'm just repeating the same premise over and over again and then they like they they've seen episodes of south park before so they're like and then tom cruise makes a cameo but like he doesn't do like there's no content there's like no ideas in it there's no jokes in it it's just like wait form inform a south park episode are they taking so you can write your own quote unquote write your own shows but it's is it all through existing ip it's not even like they generate new characters that look like you or
Starting point is 00:47:54 anything like that i think this is just like a demonstration of just like one of the applications yeah yeah how good i can be the far out version. The far out version will be like, I want to see a like Steve McQueen esque movie where my uncle is the getaway drive, you know, like that kind of shit, I think is what they they're trying to say is the fucking future. But I think, again, the only shit that this stuff is good for is like playing around not like real creative shit so i think porn is probably the thing that would get the most use out of it because in a way like it's you're trying to externalize your fantasies in some way people don't know how not everyone knows how to tell a story like just very functional right it's not like you're trying to have the subtlety of like art with commentary or anything like that you know yeah yeah yeah i mean again like i think hopefully if anything this helps people understand like man i don't know how to fucking make anything dude like i tried to make a cool show with the fucking ai
Starting point is 00:48:54 and i thought man fuck it i'm i'm bad yeah if everyone realizes they're out of their league they gotta stay in their lane and keep graphic designing or whatever. Right. I recommend everybody. We'll link off to the South Park episode. It's worth like forcing yourself through five minutes of it just to like get a sense of because I feel like it really illustrates the people who are doing this and like what they think is cool and just how depressing and like bereft of any soul like it is like not that south park is like this soulful thing but it's just it really is wild like it's hard it's hard to describe but it will make you want to uh do a hard reset with a theragun theragun to your temple yeah yeah just really get it out the uh so you're never going to guess which actor does not seem to appreciate the limits of ai
Starting point is 00:49:55 that's right it is ashton kutcher he recently made headlines after sitting down with google ceo eric schmidt and extolling the virtues of ai he specifically heaped praise on generative text to video ai tools such as open ai sora which we've talked about sora before it's the one that like creates weird trippy very video clips creepy video clips like it's getting better see the new one the guy was eating ramen and it looked way better yeah yeah yeah hell yeah they got the noodles down and it looked way better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hell yeah. They got the noodles down. And it did that by ingesting like all of YouTube illegally.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Like they just took everything off YouTube and like put it into this, you know, generative engine. I mean, allegedly. Yeah, yeah. Allegedly. If you ask the chief technical officer. So they asked, someone did ask the CTO of this company, and she was like, huh, you know, I don't actually know. This is kind of an amazing dodge. Because like this journalist from the Wall Street Journal, like made a prompt like a mermaid thing with a crab in it.
Starting point is 00:51:01 But the crab literally had a mustache like on SpongeBob. with a crab in it, but the crab literally had a mustache like on SpongeBob. And she's like, hmm, I feel like this isn't wholly original because I've seen a depiction of a crab like this elsewhere. So that's what got her to ask the question. Claire, they're coming for your paycheck, you know? At least my residuals. Yeah, well, here she is defending. You know what? Don't worry because it's not, I don't know if we did.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Maybe we did. I don't know. What data was used to train Sora? We used publicly available data and license data. So videos on YouTube? Look at that face. I'm actually not sure about that. Videos from Facebook, Instagram? Videos from Facebook, Instagram?
Starting point is 00:51:49 You know, if they were publicly available, available, publicly available to use, there might be the data, but I'm not sure. I'm not confident about it. What about Shutterstock? I know you guys have a deal with them. I'm just not gonna go into the details of the data that was that was used but it was publicly available or licensed data yeah why the fuck am i on trial right now
Starting point is 00:52:12 what was it that's the most why do they get the most basic question about an ai thing is like there there's an input and then an output and And they're like, hey, why are you asking me about the input? Yeah, you're the CTO and you're like, ah, shit. It's so wild when she said videos on YouTube and her mouth literally went, ugh.
Starting point is 00:52:37 She's like, what? You've been caught in fucking 4K, madame. What are you doing? And then to end that with, you know, I'm actually not going to talk about this. Wow. Stellar defense. You know what? I actually didn't even think about that.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Huh? Where does the video come from? I just paid attention to like what came out of it. But yeah, you're right. There must be something going in. It's like you're the chief technical officer. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 They need a better. They need better liars in here. Like, it's so you're the chief technical officer yeah yeah they need a better they need better liars in here like it's so weird that she thought you didn't do it bring back bring back this the theranos lady right are you not a powerful millionaire just lie and say you didn't do it don't you know how these grifts go you gotta lie all the way to the end until people go damn all that shit was a lie but i guess i mean maybe they are making it easier for us to be a little more discerning because when you do interviews like this it just makes them look so fucking bad so ashton kutcher was like it's gonna it's gonna make footage you could easily easily use in a major motion picture a television show like specifically i think he was referencing like establishing shots like outside he's like we're not gonna need people to actually we're
Starting point is 00:53:51 not gonna need artists to shoot that shit unit i'm just gonna invent things and that does seem like a thing that it could do actually and that sucks that That's fucking terrible. And instead of that being terrible, he's like, no, this is the future. You better get on board. But people are also pointing out, also I liked this line, someone was like, yeah, I think that Sora might be able to make an Ashton Kutcher movie, but not like a good movie, necessarily. That was Sean O'Connor. Yeah. And then, so he defended himself on twitter saying hollywood ignoring this is just gonna like be catastrophic for everybody here we go what what the fuck are people who like right like what are the creatives like 98 of the people in hollywood
Starting point is 00:54:39 what the fuck are they supposed to do with this you know this is just a thing that matters to the like executives who are trying to like cut the bottom line like the people that he hangs out with like what is the dp who like does the establishing shots for a film like what the fuck is he supposed to do with this information that like and you've been replaced by a fucking ai software you should up your game so a director wants you to be the main director of photography that's you're not stuck out there yeah go to sleep earlier this fear-mongering shit where they're like if they ignore it it's going to be catastrophic like is that a threat they're like because you know once ai comes then they're going to get mad at you for ignoring it yeah or that it's gonna somehow revolutionize like i get that they're trying
Starting point is 00:55:29 to say it's a tool but then when they also say shit like you know jobs are gonna change we need to be prepared and you're not following that up with something actually radical about the nature of work then shut the fuck up about this well so the thing that i think the bait and switch they're trying to pull off the executive class here is they're using somebody who is like nominally an actor who is actually like a media executive he has a venture capital firm cool sound ventures your sound ventures yeah he he was able to start it in 2015 when nothing more than his beautiful face, his business talents, and $100 million from Liberty Media. Oh, that'll help. So he's like a media investor.
Starting point is 00:56:16 And that's where this is coming from. He's just trying to do the work of being like, guys, this is nothing to fear. This is the future and it's gonna make sick shit dude like you don't you don't have you don't even have the discerning abilities to know that danny masterson was a piece of shit so how the fuck am i supposed to be like yeah dude what about this technology stuff ashton because yeah like you said he that sound ventures has like a 240 million dollar ai fund so they're so they're so deep in on this shit and this is the thing man every time kutcher starts opening his mouth about technology you have to presume it's a grift because he was doing this
Starting point is 00:56:57 with crypto too like this isn't this is like his new thing like he likes to be like oh man these nfts are fucking sick man they're gonna make this new show called stoner cats or like doing funny videos with like the creator of like ethereum and trying to make sure like yeah dude we're just like out here just like trying to figure out what this stuff is and he he made a donation to ellen like a charity that she was running like but as a crypto donation to bring more eyeballs onto it so everything he does is about propping up his own investments but it's yeah i mean he's like all these a lot of these famous people like get rich and famous and then the people they hang out with are other like media executives and like other millionaires and so they're just going to think all this shit is cool and like think executives and like other millionaires and so they're just going to
Starting point is 00:57:45 think all this shit is cool and like think thoughts that like those people are putting in their heads but yeah i mean this is this this is the thing that keeps going is like you know the new york times is embroiled in a lawsuit because they're like i'm pretty sure you're probably skimming our articles to train some of this shit. Yeah, chat GPT. Yeah, many industries are like, no. Like, you keep saying you're skimming the internet to train these things. So how the fuck could it not? You're constantly going like, oh, not that. That's copyright.
Starting point is 00:58:15 And like the way that even that CTO was like, I believe it's publicly available. Like, what do you mean? That you can just access it? Or they're saying that the licensing, it's available for any kind of use to the public and uh it was available to me in that i just like went in and fucking hacked that shit and yeah i used youtube downloader and i got it off not me i can't i can't pay the passive paywall i only get the first four sentences of every article i don't really know what you guys are talking about but i get the i always kind of get the first four sentences of every article i don't really know what you guys are talking about i always kind of get the gist yeah i wonder what will happen when this comes back to bite
Starting point is 00:58:51 ashton and the in his sweet little ass and there's a video that comes out of him like fucking a pig's head or something right well he'll say that it was AI generated. Yeah, exactly. And then he'll issue an AI generated half-hearted apology video in front of a wooden wall. A log cabin. Yeah, with a fucking wrinkly t-shirt. Looking like he hasn't slept in a while. I guess it's forever, the circle. Yeah, do you think before that apology video,
Starting point is 00:59:22 they had a person come in and make them look disheveled? No, I think they're both actors enough that they, I think they have enough savvy. Yeah. Because they had, like, these, like, poor us faces on. They looked like they smelled bad, you know? Because they're so stressed. I mean, that is a good point. Yeah, I mean, like, in a way, I could smell the stress sweat come through the computer screen for that.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I feel like they had their hair and makeup person come through and be like, but like this time, like, make us look like shit. Like, make us down. Okay. Then I would say, I would say you don't need me if you want to look like shit. I would say don't put any makeup on. It's that no makeup makeup look. Yeah. Everyone's doing it. Yeah. They're like, you look like shit i would say don't put any makeup on it's that no makeup makeup look yeah everyone's doing it yeah they're like you look like dehydrated yeah and yeah oh that's good that's good dehydrated i mean i'm not gonna get dehydrated because i could totally fuck up my ph
Starting point is 01:00:17 levels yeah but actually that reminds me i need to drink a gallon of alkaline water right now yeah yeah bring it over bring it over bring it Now I'm fucking freaking out. I'm freaking out. Not always the best stories you hear behind the scenes about the Ashman. But that's all. That's all I'll say about that. Oh, OK. The Tribeca Film Festival also getting in on the whole thing with some Sora shorts, which are short films created by chat GPT's like video thing. What a fucking slap in the face to
Starting point is 01:00:46 people who actually want to make filmmakers like really yeah so they're they're gonna celebrate people who just typed a fucking prompt into it and being like and that's an art form two miles okay no it is fucking not but yeah these are all created by sam altman and he is a genius i swear to god but yeah people were also pointing out similarly like it it really always feels like you can just trace this bullshit back up to somebody who has hundreds of millions of dollars invested in this shit in this case tribeca film festival is owned by tribeca enterprises which is owned by lupa systems the company run by rupert murdoch's son james and lupa systems has multiple investments in ai companies including one that produces generative music which is my favorite genre of music yeah
Starting point is 01:01:38 generative yeah because it will generate a fucking headache and crisis as you listen to it yeah but yeah yeah everything like that's what's they make it so easy though like with these grifts like you just have to do a little bit of digging and you're like what celebrity where's their money who are they involved with so much information that i feel like people who don't listen to this show yeah and there are people like that still out there folks so. So talk to your friends and family. But, you know, like, I don't know if I was just reading headlines, I'd be like, man, it seems like Hollywood's warming up to AI. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:13 Like, it's just easy when the mainstream media is like kind of in on the grift in this case. Like with crypto, they were at least like somewhat skeptical. crypto they were at least like somewhat skeptical but in this case it feels like the corporate overlords just have it so that they're like the ai wave of the future right yeah and then they have like the stupid human trick of like chat gpt seeming to be alive by doing auto complete really well and so that's enough to like get the momentum they need. Just keep it to tricks, man. Just keep it to fun party tricks. Stop saying it'll do anything else. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:50 You think it's fun party trick? Well, you're going to be a fun party trick of history because this is the future of Hollywood. I mean, we already know it's happening on the podcast too. Like it's not, People are, you know. That joke that I just said was written by AI. That's why it was so bad. Wait, I wrote that. He took that from me.
Starting point is 01:03:14 You stole that from my special. Party trick of history. Are they doing that in podcasts, AI shit? Yeah, there's a lot of, like of trying to build voice models and things like that to be able to automate stuff down the road. It's weird. There's one that's been doing it for a while that's a comedy podcast that they claim is all AI, but it's actually made by two comedians. And it seems like the comedians are actually writing it. That's kind of funny.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Oh, is that that one Will Sasso's involved in? Yeah, I think Will Sasso's involved in it. It just seems like it's a bit, but there have been others that are actually AI-generated, and I haven't seen them catch on yet, shockingly. No, because you can even... Do you even see
Starting point is 01:04:04 the AI videos that they have like the ai voices you see a lot more on like uh social posts like or like tiktok ads or things like that like because they're they're basically cutting out like cheap voiceover actors by just having ai voice like the the voice to text yeah it's so wonk like it does like these things that are you know adds a few pauses or things like that but it's still to the. Like it does like these things that are, you know, ads, a few pauses or things like that, but it's still to the human ear. You're like, is this person like,
Starting point is 01:04:29 like take a bunch of value and then a bunch of uppers or something. And they're like, they're completely cross wired here. It's very odd to listen to, but again, my hot take is that something worse than AI generated content like that. Or have you ever seen an ad on Instagram where it's like a fake two people
Starting point is 01:04:48 talking about a product on a fake podcast? Oh, yeah. Seemingly like, oh, this person who created this product happened to be on a podcast talking about it and they filmed it, but it's clearly just for Instagram. Because that's a popular clip that looks like style yeah oh interesting this is a podcast there's so many quote-unquote podcasts that
Starting point is 01:05:12 are also just like that where they're like we just need to make like a two-minute video in here but let's just put mics in front of us with like a flat screen tv with a graphic and then crazy oh they're really talking about on that podcast? Or that Rocket Money ad. Have you seen those Rocket Money ads? Where they're fake stand-up heckler clips. Where there's a stand-up talking about like, yeah, and you know when you have all these subscriptions and it's just crazy, right?
Starting point is 01:05:38 And someone in the audience goes, Rocket Money! And then the comic goes, oh oh that's exactly right and like it's shot like a stand-up clip it's really freaky they do it with like three different fake comedians that's wild i can't believe you haven't seen this yet oh i don't know that's a good that's usually on instagram maybe it it's on my algorithm specifically. But yeah, if you're heavy on the stand-up clips, that's what you're seeing. Love crowd work. Dude, there's someone so cool about all these crowd work clips. I think that's the future of comedy.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Just someone's talking to a bunch of people they don't know and not even doing material. And the thing they're saying, their brilliant observation is just how good a product is. I love that app! Oh is. I love that app! Oh yeah, I love that app! We're all talking about it backstage. This Coca-Cola tastes good and there's no calories. And that's what I like about the
Starting point is 01:06:35 crowd work is just the exchange of ideas about what apps are cool. Wow, unbelievable. Unbelievable. Claire O'Kane unbelievable uh having you on the show it was great having you uh also written by ai can people find you follow you all that good stuff you can go to claireokane.com for all your claire o'kane needs there you go you know i got shows coming up but i do actively have covid right now so i'm
Starting point is 01:07:06 i'm can't i think i'm gonna cancel tonight's show oh boy oh man but um check out my calendar i'll be i'll be good i'll be ready for some shows in the future and um yeah i'm all over the place i got this new album everything i know how to do's very good. It's all over the place. Thank you. Go check it out. Check it out. Buy it, goddammit. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I am obsessed with this, I'll call it
Starting point is 01:07:36 media, this Instagram account called Crisis Acting. You guys know about Crisis Acting? I know about Crisis Actors. I don't know about this Instagram. This Instagram, they're basically like every post is a 10 or so different clips, sort of just random moments from videos taken from the internet or Instagram without context. So sometimes it'll be like, you know, a guy blowing something up in the middle of the
Starting point is 01:08:06 desert and all his friends going like yeah then you go to the next one and then it's like some sort of eastern european ritualistic dance that you don't really know what's going on then you swipe to the next one and then it's like a little kid playing basketball and a kid like kickflipping for the first time next to him it's just like all these little moments that sort of remind you of your humanity and the world's humanity, but without context. And just like these weird things, like lightning storms,
Starting point is 01:08:35 just like everything that can happen in the world that curated in these posts. Curated good clips. Curated good, interesting, sometimes beautifully shot clips by normal ass people from around the world that's crisis acting love that that's on instagram it's on instagram the app so instagram the app hey have you uh you know how you can't find videos anywhere these days instagram that's right that's what i'm talking
Starting point is 01:09:07 about proud miles where can people find you is there work of media you've been enjoying uh yeah find me on the uh instagram the twitter at miles of gray find jack and i on the basketball podcast miles and jack like i said i listen and i watch 90 Day Fiancé, but you can listen to me talk about 90 Day Fiancé on 420 Day Fiancé with Sophia Alexandra. A tweet I like. I'm still on that Shams tweet about Chris Stapps
Starting point is 01:09:36 Brzingis. So this one now is from Kyle A. Madsen. It said, need to hear E40 say this tweet out loud. And it said, Celtics, Chris Staffs, Brazilians, sober to tour, medial retinaculum, allowing dislocation of the posterior to be outstended. And yeah, it's so malleable, that tweet.
Starting point is 01:09:55 So thank you for putting E40 Fonzarelli in my brain. Yeah, had to, had to. So yeah, that's mine. Tweet I've been enjoying, Shane, 555 days until Avatar 3 at the Monkey Jungle on Twitter tweeted showing up two hours late to work
Starting point is 01:10:12 with tiger face paint from the zoo. Good energy to bring into the work day. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information
Starting point is 01:10:35 that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do you think people might enjoy? This comes from a singer, drummer, producer named Diela. D-A-I-E-L-A. And this is a really kind of futuristic drum and bass pop track that she made. It's called Hyperdai. Hyper D-A-I. And it's dope.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Her vocals are really cool and layered on it and the production is really cool. So check this one out. Diela with Hyperdye. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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