The Daily Zeitgeist - Impeachment...Again, Walmart’s Positive Impact? 1.25.21

Episode Date: January 25, 2021

In episode 797, Jack and Miles are joined by producer and writer Joelle Monique to discuss the impeachment in the Senate, recharge rooms for healthcare workers, The Walmart Effect, a streaming content... check-in, and more!FOOTNOTES: Democrats say they will send impeachment article Monday These Recharge Rooms Are Helping Health Care Workers Cope The Walmart Effect: Testing Private Interventions to Reduce Gun Suicide Pixar’s ‘Soul’ Records Historic Nielsen Streaming Win In Christmas Bow On Disney+ WATCH: Connan Mockasin- I Want Troll With You (Gentle Dom Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:37 covid yes y'all know what it is it's it's bad in america it's better elsewhere. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I play Switch like a motherfucker. I'll put you under. I go hard in the paint. I do not show restraint. I find shells on the beach and I sell them for cheap. You know that asshole Tom Nook
Starting point is 00:03:03 owes me some money. That is courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi-Maine. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Trump out of office and Bernie in mittens. Blue state of Georgia, Q Shaman in prison. Now all I need is my COVID vaccine. Come on. These are a few of my favorite things.
Starting point is 00:03:32 When the blunt sparks, when the clouds go. Okay, I made up that last part, but shout out Rob Cunningham at Matt Demigod for that wonderful favorite things. That was a classic. That felt good. I mean, it was one of the greatest hits CD. I didn't even
Starting point is 00:03:52 look, Rob. I appreciate this. I see this happen on the discord where people are really conscious of syllable count on the AKAs because the seamless ones are just syllabically locked in and there was a little bit of back and forth in this. But shout out to everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But Rob, thank you for that one. Needed it. Nailed it. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the talented, Joel Moniz! Hey, hey, hey! Hey, y'all. What's up?
Starting point is 00:04:23 What are you doing? What is up, Joel? Oh, man. It's a brand new day i'm gonna say brand new day twitter has it got me twisted because they're like listen don't get too excited it's new kind of like old stuff and that's how we got here in the first place i'm like right but can i be a little bit what if i'm like 45 just real happy that that one guy is gone you know and things are looking better a lot happened day one a lot of a lot of moves were made optimistic cautiously cautiously optimistic it's like because it's those things where it's like here we go it's like yes the keystone pipeline it's like but what about
Starting point is 00:04:56 the dakota access pipeline and it's like yes what about these other things and you're like what about the children in cages that were done by executive order you could all okay let's look there's a lot of other shit to get to but i feel like these are the things we can also get to but yeah i feel the same way i think more than anything like you know i was i was talking about last week is like it truly felt like coming out of a cave and yes like being so used to the darkness and then coming out and trying to like like have the wherewithal or understand like is sunlight good do i like this because i know it's good but what the fuck is this so there's sometimes when i'll like have something dangerous happen or like live through a dangerous event and like look back years on and be like man i can't believe
Starting point is 00:05:45 like that that was scary i can't like i felt that way immediately i was like i can't believe that motherfucker was president like at 1201 like when he was no longer around wow this feels much better i can't believe he is uh ever was president um yeah it just shows so much on even on like you know as much as people listen to the show and be like yeah you guys managed to keep the news like so listenable and upbeat and thank you for that and while we're able to do that it's i can't i can't tell even listeners how much of a burden is lifted when i'm not thinking the first thing I'm going to have to discover is some fucking next level of cruelty or just terrible way of running things. And now that that's gone, I'm like, okay, so now I'm just going to have to be as scared, but just keep the eye open as it
Starting point is 00:06:37 already has been. But yeah. And I got hyped for a press briefing. I was like, we're having one of those? The Lord! She pointed at the journalist and said their name allowed them to say their their piece and then didn't clap back weird weird but i'm curious to see like how because everyone's i think we're all in this phase of trying to figure out what what this new thing is our new way of talking about politics our new way of interacting with politics and yeah it'll like what does the media do like some you can tell some people are still like they can't quit trump just quite yet and i get that there's he's still relevant in in terms of impeachment but like making it all about that still i'm like we're gonna have to
Starting point is 00:07:21 dead that pretty soon uh you know because there's real shit that has to be covered in the country much in the same way i'm like will that same level of intense focus be there for this administration as it was for trump and i think that's that will be telling like how quickly they just go oh my god isn't it great that the the briefings aren't combative yeah we we can't get caught up in manners obviously uh and have to stay focused but there there's some policy. There's some good policy shit happening. Yeah. Just,
Starting point is 00:07:48 you know, just keep it coming. Just build on it. Just keep building and don't, don't, don't make it. So people say you lied to us. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:56 That's all. It's all people money. Give people money. Don't, uh, that was one thing that no trick math. Yeah. The trick math,
Starting point is 00:08:03 the relaxing or like changing policies around food banks it's like yeah but people could just use some money give them the money the money like that that is always better than like yeah we're two in the bush right something yes all right let's uh we're gonna get to know you a bit better in a moment, Joelle. First, a couple of things we're talking about. The articles of impeachment are being delivered today to the Senate. We will see how Mitch wants to play it. We'll talk about that a little bit. We'll talk about how they're delivering help for medical workers via technology. We'll talk about a new instance of the British coal gas study, the Walmart study, less refined sounding. We'll talk about the
Starting point is 00:08:57 Hall of Presidents at Disney. And then we're just going to do a general streaming content check, and we haven't really talked about, we haven't been doing our weekly watches because everything was pretty intense there for a little while. But you know, we have watched Wonder Woman 84. We have watched a couple other things.
Starting point is 00:09:19 So we'll talk about that. All of that plenty more, but first joelle what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are um i have researched every single dog adoption place in los angeles because the time has got moved into my space and we you know the boxes are slowly leaving the space oh my moving is so hard guys but once once we're we're ready for a dog we're ready we've been ready it's been about a year and a half since we decided we're gonna get one we've researched breeds we've researched names genders
Starting point is 00:09:56 training puppies older dogs what are we gonna get uh now we've just come to the point we're like we'll just take anything what's available please give us a dog so that we can love on it and have a reason to leave the house um please bring something that just is completely not aware of the world into our space just buy we're just gonna steal its energy we're gonna be in a room of hires and just really love our dog you got a pile of bummed out dogs in the back you're just like i don't know man i can't really be in there with them too we're gonna let him replenish okay we're not trying to drain his energy but you know just survive off of it like what we do in the shadows i just started watching that i just watched that too it was so good and
Starting point is 00:10:36 the energy vampire is so good so it's done really well of thinking of like it's hard to sort of immediately think of what a good energy vampire representation is. But goodness gracious. They nailed it. Wait, so what kind of dog? Like what? Is there a shortage of dogs? Because I know there have been a lot of pet adoptions in the past.
Starting point is 00:10:56 So there is still plenty of animals available. Yeah, I don't know why I'm like, no, we've solved it, right? They're going quickly. Like they go up and then like five seconds later like that dog's been adopted i might have personal phone numbers from adoption people who work at the adoption agency and i'm like what i just saw it you posted it four hours ago and they're like adoption pending paperwork already the problem like damn it i can't sit on this site and wait um but it's really hard we are hoping for um some kind of pit mix um we live in a new space my
Starting point is 00:11:26 brother's on the bottom floor and so we're like we want like a somewhat aggressive dog to be like hey don't come in our space um but you know also fun and loving and so pit mixes have a good combination of both uh they can tap into something yeah exactly but definitely sweet dogs yeah exactly exactly my friends have pits they're they're uh they used to be babysitting dogs which i love about them you can leave them with the baby and no one will attack the baby that's is that true that's the history of look at if i don't know if that's their whole history but certainly a history point for them is like uh like 18th century no sorry uh 19th century so the end of the 1800s, early 1900s, you can find pictures of them
Starting point is 00:12:06 in baby bonnets sitting. Yeah, it's so cute. I gotta send this shit to the fucking child. Oh my god. Oh no, where's the copy link? Oh my god. It almost looks like you're like, it looks like the headline of like, and this child was taken from his
Starting point is 00:12:22 parents. Wow. Wow wow oh my god exactly these pit bulls are so loving and almost like yo fuck a parent man like why do you have a pit bull cradling me in the fucking bed also what man was in charge of choosing the name for them because like this is a loving dog that like can babysit and they're like yeah but that one time it fought in a pit like a bull we'll call him a pit bull uh bad pr for whoever named them oh my god yeah it took us a long time to find a place that would let us have a pit bull and so then we were like well if we're gonna be here we should definitely try to get one
Starting point is 00:13:02 um and oh my gosh they're just so sweet and their faces and when they're puppies oh my god i can't i'll cry they're so great so yeah that's what we're on the hunt we're looking for one i'm hoping to have one very soon i just applied for one this morning um no updates yet on their website so fingers crossed yeah getting a dog now we're just now i'm just watching videos of dogs licking baby's faces oh my god i love that my dog went by the time our kids was born was just too old and he was just tired just real tired about them he was just like oh you've got to be fucking kidding me he's like now you want to bring children into the house yeah exactly damn it come on man look at my knees well i have to do this oh this it's this uh pit bull as nanny thing is like a very contentious thing in like the dog truth community oh really
Starting point is 00:13:53 yeah i mean it's like it's not that like it happened or didn't but they're talking about like this article that introduced the concept it's it's what's interesting to me more than anything is that there's a lot of energy going into like understanding it and then also the myth about like this pit bull that killed a two-year-old that was like guarding a like a weed crop sort of kicked off this whole idea of like pit as baby eater in the 80s right i remember that so what wow i mean all that to say we just want a dog to love on you know what I mean yeah and guard our weed also listen bonuses we'll take it do you have a name uh we've been tossing some things around Justin was telling me this morning and I was like I'm just gonna call it cute it was very long and I was like listen I don't care what you name the dog because technically his dog whatever you want
Starting point is 00:14:43 to name it is fine with me I just want to hug the thing i just there you go yeah i want to flop its ears and then take it outside for a walk like dogs they're the best did you say he wants to name it q he wanted to name it oh my gosh something after cumberbatch but like a play on his words like oh it's a rick and morty inside joke if I remember correctly and I was like that's a really long name I'm just going to call it Q simplify easy that's something I'm sure
Starting point is 00:15:14 we'll get to later but you are a QAnon subscriber Patreon yeah totally they were justified on that day when you take him for a walk you'll be cleaning up his q drops okay there he is he's back am i right ladies and gentlemen uh am i right uh don't get me started don't even get me started on this one uh what is
Starting point is 00:15:42 something you think is underrated uh underrated is the internet i have been without internet for almost a week and let me tell you absolutely essential to our existence as human beings now uh i'm so lucky my father sent me a like terabyte hard drive filled with movies that's what i've had to watch lately there is no streaming right now in my house i'd upgrade my phone plan to a hot spot. That thing is slow as hell. Internet required for existence. Yeah. So I'm guessing your move, the monopoly of spectrum hasn't come to bless your wires yet? Listen, oh, so frustrating. I called the landlord and I was like, yo, we're wired for internet, right? They were like,
Starting point is 00:16:24 no doubt. Great. I've set up internet since I was four. I know we're wired for internet, right? They were like, no doubt. Great. We got this. I've set up internet since I was four. I know how to do this. This is great. I just set it up. They set it up. I get the nonstop blinking lights, call spectrum, you know, fix your stuff. They're like, oh, hey, we're seeing you. You're here. I'm like, we're not here. I promise you. I know how to do this internet. Not there. So then they sent somebody over and that guy, total jerk was essentially like, oh, we have to set up an entire new box for you connected to your phone line. Because while you have an internet wire, you do not have our internet wire. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Still not quite sure. They've got to do construction and drill holes in walls and all kinds of crazy things. We can come back in a week. Right. Right. You're like, okay, sure. My corpse right right you're like okay sure my corpse will let you in since i've died of no internet order groceries what are we doing i was like okay you know what just uh go ahead put the date down i'm gonna call other companies and we'll see who can
Starting point is 00:17:16 get here faster but i go on they're calling at&t and they were like we can do 10 megabytes per second 55 equipment i was, out the door. Don't ever talk to me again, AT&T. I can stream one thing a day. Don't talk to me or my son ever again. I was livid. You guys have fiber wire cables, but I'm getting 10 megabytes. Like, oh, God.
Starting point is 00:17:40 AT&T in LA is just, yeah, we'll randomly be like ah we can't get to your house sorry it's like oh yeah i'm in the middle of a neighborhood my neighbor has like very you're a highest high speed internet but they're like yeah sorry we we can't get there for some reason it's mind-blowing i don't understand why we let internet companies i had an at&t person come and then tell me to get spectrum you showed up i'm like yo i need this shit now like i need it 15 minutes ago like my whole life is on the internet and like i like whatever has to happen and they're like yeah i'm gonna be honest with you man you're probably better off with spectrum at this point i'm like you're not even looking at the thing he's like i can I can just tell. I'm gonna have to go up there and if your neighbor's not home.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I'm like, eat shit. Then the Spectrum guy came and was really nice, which is very not familiar. On Spectrum of him. Sometimes you get those tech people who actually give a fuck about their job and not to say...
Starting point is 00:18:43 Whatever it is, I just love when someone has enthusiasm about it and is like over explaining like yeah this is the reason but I'm glad you're almost on the other side of your internet list like one more week shit it's uh yeah it's
Starting point is 00:19:00 an indictment any to any time you're dealing with a telecom company it's an indictment of capitalism I time you're dealing with a telecom company it's an indictment of uh capitalism i feel like yeah because these should all be fucking public services you know like public utilities that are actually done in a humane way and like affordable rather than like well how much can you afford right well they're like oh well you can't afford to stream your education you can afford to like, look at static documents, like fuck off.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Joel, what movies are on the hard drive? What any, any forgotten classics? Dad really hooked us up. He really hooked us up. So first of every action movie between 2008 and now is on there for sure. Nice.
Starting point is 00:19:38 We watched all of the fast and furious is every mission impossible. All of the planet of the apes. If it blew up, it was on there. But then he also included a lot of like black American classes. Glory is on there. And so is the color purple. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:55 what mood were you in when you were, were you like also things that blow up, but also education. And then he put a lot of girly movies on there for me, which I really appreciated. My atonement is on there for me uh which i really appreciated my atonement is on there um but also pride and prejudice is on there which i favorite movie watch it over and over again yeah a nice a nice combination i will say this a movie for every mood because there has not been one time where we're like oh there's nothing to watch on this
Starting point is 00:20:20 thing and i've scrolled through all of netflix and found nothing to watch so i was pretty pleased with it that's some top-notch dadding right there that's like some excellent father if you can if you can like put a movie selection together that will entertain your kids for uh over a week like that's right you go in the dad hall of fame right doesn't matter if you're three or thirty you know what i mean i was we did also watch all the kung fu pandas and all the train your dragons so and all the Train Your Dragons. We got to send my dad an award or something. Yeah. Most dads, it would
Starting point is 00:20:52 just be a series of Liam Neeson movies and probably some Seagal in there. A couple of Civil War docs. We'll put you in color. No, you don't understand. It in color peter jackson took all that world war one footage and made it so real uh what is something you think is overrated um my controversial overrated that i may take back in a week when i have internet is Twitter.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I don't miss Twitter. It's really bizarre. I don't have it. I'm on it, you know, maybe a little bit in the morning now. But since there's no, like, open tab of Twitter on my computer now, it's just kind of like, oh, is this also part of the lightness that I feel? Maybe it's not just new president energy. Maybe it is also, you know, stupid controversy that I don't need to be involved in that I'll forget in two seconds. But for some reason, let overtake my life for a bit. For example, my friend texted me and she was like, hey, are seeing all this Gaga stuff happening on Twitter?
Starting point is 00:21:59 I was like, I'm not on Twitter right now. What's going on? And she was like, she wore a jay to the inauguration and i was like a bold choice no not seeing it get on everyone's in hysterics just upset about it or it's the most hilarious thing it turns out it's a dove and then completely appropriate for valve and i was like so this was a bit we spent a whole day on this bird that meant nothing ridiculous yeah i didn't realize there was like criticism of her like because i was saying she was extra but like that is i thought she was amazing and like very like her theatricality
Starting point is 00:22:34 is like great and what makes her her and like is her artistic contribution to the world but people got defensive because i guess people were being critical of her appearance I thought it was like iconic I think some people thought she was perhaps buying into the Mockingjay series or trying to send some type of subtle message I'm sorry nothing is subtle
Starting point is 00:22:58 with her so like everything's overt so you'd be like what is she trying to do I'm like she's doing what she does full so take from it what you will and keep it moving right i mean yeah her fashion sense has always seemed to be uh you know the capital from uh that series adjacent you know like it oh the capital from hunger games hunger games. The capital from that series adjacent. What the fuck is Jack?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Well, she was at the capital. Jack's brain is melting. Yeah, the capital from Hunger Games adjacent. I could see it. Yeah. Twitter, I say this all the time as I try and ramp down my social media use. I have it in sub-subfolders to really make myself be like, do you want to go there?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Do you want to go inside there because i it does seem based on like you know just all of the media i interact with on there i'm like it's just it's a lot and most of the time like i'm getting all this information already but it's like do i want it like in real time because when i look at that like little icon on my home screen it it feels like it's like a door where on the other side you're hearing like screams and like fighting and like explosions. And I'm like looking at it like slow zooming on. I'm like, do I want to open this door? And I'm like, nope, not right.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I feel like getting news lately has definitely been like the Pennywise doors. I don't know if you saw the latest it, but at the end of part one, the kids have to choose like one of three closet doors to enter. And they're all pretty terrible. And they're like, do we choose the one with like the beheaded little girl or the one with the stabby guy? The one that appears empty, but will definitely swallow its whole if we close that door. And yeah, CNN has been pretty good, but they are also repetitive as hell. So that gets tiresome after not too long. Twitter is like a constant stream of misinformation.
Starting point is 00:24:47 And I won't bother to even suggest Facebook as a potential source because that's just chaos. So, yeah, I feel like lately, to be honest, there's so much research to do for some of my other pods that I've just been buried in Star Wars. And X much nicer over there. Surprisingly, the crazy fan base. Wookiee. Yeah. pods that I've just been buried in Star Wars and much nicer over there surprisingly with a crazy fan base I'm into the Wookieepedia I'm actually going back and like reading a ton of the Star Wars novels because
Starting point is 00:25:13 I want to interview a lot of those authors who sort of like held up Star Wars in between the original series and the launch of the prequels so yeah I've just been deep in like really heavy research territory and screening new podcasts and trying to see what's out there.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I'm so much more into the work right now than I am into the rest of the world. I think not being outside for so long, coming outside today was very strange. Trying to leave the house is a crazy experiment in human conditioning. What I used to do every day is now like, jacket?
Starting point is 00:25:48 You definitely need a jacket. Do I pack everything to go? I think it's like how parents feel when they have a new baby and they're like, we have to take everything because we don't know what's going to happen once we leave this state. Why do I have a spatula in my coat? It's there. Just take it. You never know.
Starting point is 00:26:03 You do never know. I can't flip an egg in the pan uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader
Starting point is 00:26:49 Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of this right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer.
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Starting point is 00:29:18 How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in France. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it.
Starting point is 00:29:58 On segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And impeachment is back in the senate we don't really know what's going to happen uh the articles are being delivered today uh mitch wanted to delay but uh you know
Starting point is 00:30:37 it's not his decision anymore yeah i mean there's a little negotiating i think he wants to be like mid february was like a thing i don't know what for i mean he's a little negotiating i think he wants to be like mid february was like a thing i don't know what for i mean he's already trying to fuck around and block nominations so you know that i think we know what to do uh can fully ignore this turtle fuck so uh yeah i it'll you know if things still go according to plan as of right now it would be tuesday at one eastern would officially kick off the trial phase so and we get to do it all over again it's just so funny how like we're still like caught in the fucking grips where the news actually isn't changing but 100 this is like he has to be held accountable but i'm curious to know how much this actually takes up the news cycle.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Because this will be a thing. Can they do two things at once? Can it be we're covering this and also what's happening with the Biden administration going into this omni crisis that he's waltzed into? Yeah. A lot of questions. Yeah. All right. waltzed into so yeah a lot of questions yeah uh all right let's talk about uh let's switch gears to the uh global pandemic that's currently devastating these united states uh and solutions
Starting point is 00:31:57 are are a thing that is being talked about and covered and actually proposed right now uh we saw fauci at the end of last week uh looking oh my god looking like a decade younger just like it's just like it was like that private ryan giff in reverse where matt damon becomes the old man it's like the old man turned it like i was yeah it was some i think i also got a bit of cathartic like it was cathartic for me to see him be like, take his mask off at his first press conference. And I'm like, he's back. He's ready.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Yeah. But working in medicine right now is very difficult, especially the Los Angeles area is just being crushed, crushed right now by COVID. I know people in medicine who are just, you know, really struggling. You know, Miles, you were saying you have nurse friends who are just underwater. Yeah. And just like trying to hear, you know, I have one really close friend. She's like in oncology, so she's not part of that effort. But and she's also like it feel it's really weird for me because she used to work in a trauma unit she's like when things like this i'm i was very malleable but now she's like i'm kind of like i see how bad it is and i almost
Starting point is 00:33:16 feel blessed that i'm like in oncology because these people also need help but i'm not being because a lot of people are being you know shuffled around to address the lack of like medical workers that we have. But yeah, hearing just about how, just the disparities between how hospitals are treating nurses and doctors to how funding's being moved to like how places need to, it's, it's just a really bad picture. And for anyone who knows anyone who's had to work during this pandemic, especially in the medical field, you know how traumatic this has been for people because they're dealing with levels of death and loss that are like unheard of in terms of like what they're what the normal flow is of like incidences in a hospital. So, you know, like there is this. So obviously there needs to be a push to actually address this. And when you just read from what it's like to be a nurse who works in like the long haul recovery ward of a covid like at a hospital, not the people who are like in the midst of fighting the illness, like the people who have recovered, quote unquote, but are still dealing with like the terrible after effects. This is what one of the accounts of a nurse is like.
Starting point is 00:34:24 And this is from Mount Sinai in New York. It's scary, she says. I see marathon runners who are unable to go up and down stairs and attorneys unable to string proper sentences together without word searching due to severe brain fog. We've seen thousands and have thousands more on the wait list. uh and this wired article goes on to say she's bracing for a surge um of need in the coming months quote the worst is yet to come she says the hardest thing to say to these patients is that we don't know what's going on but we are going to do our best to treat it i'm not sure that was ever something we had to say to a patient that science has failed us and we can't figure out the pathology so you know like on top of already having to take care of these people many of whom are like will lose their lives they're also like in this place like the i they feel doubly helpless because the the science is like it it needs time to catch up to everything and and it's just really affecting a terrible environment and the the surveys that have gone out with healthcare workers just shows how much more of a depressive state this has put people in, in the actual pain.
Starting point is 00:35:30 And a lot of experts are looking at 9-11 and the research that was done with first responders there to see actually what effect this is going to have on medical workers long-term. Because they said after 9-11, they found 26.8 percent of police and 46 percent of non-traditional responders uh like construction workers had ptsd symptoms 12 years after 9-11 and so that even shows like that we have to actually focus too on the ptsd of the people who are taking care of all of the people that are dying so that's where like the technology part comes in right yeah i mean they they've really found that ptsd like is like if you're not addressing it if you're not talking about it like that is a huge compounding factor and so like the more that we
Starting point is 00:36:20 can just like culturally and societally just like make it a thing that there's absolutely no stigma around and it's being proactively addressed. You know, that that's just something that like studies have found more and more that people who are able to actually, like, I think that had like part, that's part of the dynamic with MDdma being like a thing that gets
Starting point is 00:36:46 you to drop your you know social programming to and like resistance to actually just confronting your feelings straight on and that's why it's an effective uh therapy for people who are suffering from ptsd uh and just like societally if we could all take a some MDMA around this subject I feel like that would be what you see it rapidly like we are having an evolution you know like yeah when the like even the rock is like you'll have depression folks yeah the rock the rock for people who look and be like yeah there goes a man who will suffer in silence and let that turn into some other health condition down the road. Like it's yes, we have to talk about these things. And that's what I think the benefit now is that because of that, we can look at these health care work and say, OK, what are we doing to help their situation?
Starting point is 00:37:40 Because their entire shift is just filled with chaos. because their entire shift is just filled with chaos. So a lot of these recharge rooms have been set up across the country. I mean, it's slowly catching on. But these are essentially meant to be a place for 10 to 15 minutes. These frontline workers can just take a second to be in an environment that isn't so sterile, that isn't on the midst of the chaos of the hospital floor. And they were they these experts teamed up with like there's this woman named Morel Phillips who they design like multisensory like experiences, but have now actually been like, how can we do this in a therapeutic way? And they're using biophilic design principles.
Starting point is 00:38:24 So basically saying like as much, how can we make this room feel like nature and natural as much as possible. And also working with like musicians and sound designers to really create sounds like of nature or like, you know, certain types of music that have are shown to like sort of bring people's stress levels down to make these rooms. And the results seem pretty clear there. There was a study that was done and then they found that 15, 15 minutes in the restart recharge room at the end of the shift was reducing
Starting point is 00:38:56 people's stress of these essential workers by up to 60%. Yeah. And that's really something that they're like, damn, okay. Even something as simple as like just a place to sort of transition out of your really intense work uh work schedule to then be like okay let me sort of get back in touch like in my body because you know your
Starting point is 00:39:18 limbic system is probably just hijacking your whole shit in the midst of all of what's going on so yeah yeah it's wild to see this effort kind of come together i i think we're gonna see like there there's so many studies that find a uh really profound link between mental and physical health and there's so much we still don't know about that like that. I feel like this is a frontier that we're going to see people exploring more and more in the healthcare field. This seems like it could be just the beginning of a broader, bring those two ideas together
Starting point is 00:40:02 and get these people to redesign hospital rooms for the patients, too. We've seen that somebody's mental health or how they're feeling can totally change how well they recover from surgery. I don't know. Hospital rooms are just famously so comforting and right well because it's all about yeah it's all about utility and that makes sense that's like the framework that we've been kind of designing them within but now like i i could see this becoming like a much broader thing. I think it's going to have to because if we think about, I mean, if you're 12 years later, you're still dealing with the effects of 9-11. I mean, at one point we're having like a 9-11 every day as far as just total death count for the country.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And then stack on top of that, just the duration of it. It's just so long and still such like a long fight to go i mean we're gonna have to think about it of course for medical personnel but also like somebody was talking the other day about how they their friend has like a one-year-old and they took the kid outside and it was clear the kid was having like just overload from just being outside um there's a lot of damage done to all of us just from right yeah in the past year but yeah four-year-old like covers his mouth when he's outside sometimes and i have to remind him like it's not that the outside is you know infected it's that you know it's but it can be
Starting point is 00:41:39 it's very confusing you know for young kids who this is now like over a quarter of their lives uh spent in in the pandemic but it's uh also kids are resilient so i'm sure it's like the what you're talking about jack sort of too about like recovery and like what that environment is for someone's physical because like we've uh since the beginning of like the lockdown we've read stories about how like being in nature has like helped people's stress levels or perceived happiness levels just by being out there. And like, okay. But it's like, it's like we're fast approaching like a field of study and I'm sure this already exists. So science, I can't even shame you in my mentions, but like, it's like the, like vibe ology, you know what I mean? the like vibe ology you know what i mean we're like you can say like that there's this thing that seems intangible but people can perceive or it's like oh this feels this oh wow this feels
Starting point is 00:42:30 good or like this room feels nice or whatever that we're like having to be like how can we we need to harness the power of the vibes to heal uh so you know i mean that was one of the things that fauci was saying is that it's all about vibes man yeah at the uh press conference more so than masks yeah he was pretty clearly high he was yeah he was yeah he was i mean those his fucking pupils look like dinner plates i was like okay my man but yeah music therapy it's obviously you's a, I think, stigma around things like vibes. And, you know, that's why we're so, you know, far behind with regards to unifying mental and physical health. But and also the brain is just a complete mystery. So it's a it's an uphill battle.
Starting point is 00:43:22 But I do think it is a frontier of medicine that uh people will be more and more open to hopefully uh and by necessity the new quack doctors or virologists yeah i can see it all right let's talk about uh my favorite subject it's not really my favorite subject but i get i get a lot of shit from bringing it up all the time the british coal gas study uh which found that basically giving people access to uh or taking away their access to um you know methods of suicide actually affects whether people kill themselves that's not a thing that like where there's a will there's a way it's it's named after the fact that they changed the type of gas that was used in british uh ovens in uh the 20th century and once the method of putting it sticking your head in an
Starting point is 00:44:19 oven was no longer lethal uh the british suicide rate dropped by like a third because that's how a third of people were killing themselves. They just had a box they could stick their head in that would end their life. And so once that went away, the suicides went away as opposed to people finding a different way. So there's more evidence on... I usually bring this up in relation to gun control, and there's now very specific evidence that proves that that is valid. A lot of people bring it up. I don't just bring it up, but a lot of people bring it up in relation to gun control. And new research has showed that a temporary decision by Walmart to stop selling firearms reduced the suicide rate by 3.3% to 7.5% in counties with Walmart stores, which was an estimated 5,000 to 11,000 lives saved or 5,000 to close to 12,000 lives saved. And so, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:29 this is just one of those things that it seems like it seems to me like the most straightforward case for gun control is like there are lives that are being lost explicitly because people are allowed to have guns in their house. Yeah. But how much do Walmart profits fall? Right. At a time. Right. But beyond even that,
Starting point is 00:45:51 I was like the, so many people in the pandemic were like, well, people die. What can you do? They're going to die. Like, it's going to be a lot of that same energy.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Things I've actually heard about, if you're stupid enough to take your own life and maybe you deserve to die there's this callous and completely uncaring about like well you know some people are sick and need help and you could we could easily give that to them as we could have gotten like it's pretty much the same amount of effort goes into like helping somebody as it does to just be like well you're on your own buddy yeah comparing it to like meant like the connection between mental and physical health it's like if getting a fever killed you if you are going through a particularly difficult period of time and you have access to something that uh you know you're mentally you're not well and you have access to something that locks that feeling in like that
Starting point is 00:46:46 it's the same it's like you know that that idea that suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem is i think unimportant like it's kind of a quippy thing but it's also like these statistics bear out that that ends up being what it is a lot of the time like and you know there have been uh longitudinal studies of people who jump off the uh golden gate bridge and survive and there's like i think 90 something percent of them go on to not kill themselves they go on to live normal lives uh and so it's like the just because you make that decision in that moment doesn't mean that two minutes later you would have still wanted to make that decision yeah the very just rigid view of it that doesn't that doesn't help anyone uh at all and having a button that ends your life as which is what guns are is like the most permanent and just the most drastic way of
Starting point is 00:47:54 you know uh locking in that uh what is a sort of philosophical dilemma that people you know generally don't down the road don't want to have like that's what it it makes uh the decision to take your own life so tragic to me that so oftentimes the person would have wanted not to have done that if you had given them another day to think on it if they just didn't have that means right there. Walmart is just like being, you know, for most people know Walmart is just the destroyer of amart and mcdonald's like are the two companies that employ so many americans that still need are relying on public benefits because of their unwillingness to actually give people the the things they need um it's like like come on let's do something now that we're having the 15 an hour argument right no how is that still a conversation
Starting point is 00:49:03 we started that conversation when i was in college the shit should be 25 yeah like let's be real let's be fucking real that's at minimum it should be 25 an hour and you know the well how are you gonna pay for that it's just it's called the people who you'll never be as rich as are gonna be slightly less rich right right or the other argument we hear all the time is like oh well then that will force them to like fire people it'll bring more machines like that's already happening like we already have these machines taking over people jobs like well here's the thing machines don't consume products either so what do you do about that you know like it's like all so then you have to you have to have money for people whether it's through a ubi or something um because we're not going to some weird like the island type
Starting point is 00:49:50 vibe where everyone's wearing like their white uniform and like here's your gruel and you know go on your peloton yeah it's holding back progress by you know like allowing companies right well because we're still like it's still it's like it's just wage slavery you know and that's because your only option is okay so you're not going to work then you'll die right well that's a fucked up why am i what's this what's this game set up as exactly so if i don't do this if i don't work and toil then my op i i there's nothing to rely on to help me so my only option is to be have my labor exploited huh right yes that's the goal of capitalism you work or you die right everybody who is physically unable to work or people who have any kind of barrier to working this woman who it's a brilliant writer
Starting point is 00:50:46 but she's deaf it was having such a hard time finding a job that would make any kind of like accommodations for her she's like they all want to meet on zoom i can't hear what you're saying and none of you sign so what am i doing here what is the point and she can't she just literally cannot participate in the work she's proven herself time and time again to be good at that kind of stuff is so frustrating um yeah we live in a society where you you absolutely have to be productive in order to be valued and i think that that's so disgusting yeah and we're just we're not like shedding that like toxic philosophy quick enough you know because we still have to we gotta work hard even if your hands
Starting point is 00:51:25 bleed it's like that's fucking fucked up and cruel like yeah there there has to be some like level that we can all come to and agree on but i think that'll take time it's like it's just really we're just watching these companies like grind people out to the point where we're just like i don't know what do we do but it's like well we fucking you know this is all we have to be in this together um so that we have to look at that and say that's not a good situation that's not a direction philosophically societally i want to move in but yeah come on we'll day by day just got to keep that in the front of the mind because hopefully you know we'll reach a tipping point of people thinking in the same way and we can start. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Maybe that's a little too optimistic. But, hey, the last four years have at least got people pretty focused on shit. So there may be something to do with that. Yeah. And just before we go to break, just going back to the suicide conversation, that it is a public health crisis in the United States. It is twice as common as homicide, which is the exact opposite of what people assume because homicide gets, you know, at least twice as much coverage when it happens. And it is that way because of guns. So it's a public health crisis that is being ignored every day in the country.
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Starting point is 00:57:37 Bridgerton has taken the Netflix world by storm. Soul from Pixar also blew up um so yeah i just wanted to kind of give us a chance to talk about uh these things that are in the zeitgeist that we really haven't had a moment to yeah in a i mean normal world uh what uh what is there to say about all of it all right wonder woman 84 wonder woman joel wonder woman came at such an important time uh if like christmas was going to be really hard for everybody this year i should i'm not going to spend it beyond christmas and go to the holiday season was a challenge so many of us didn't get to go see people that we wanted to see uh i know a lot of people who were single and have been quarantining by themselves continue to do so through the holidays and here comes wonder woman like out
Starting point is 00:58:29 of nowhere it's like a christmas miracle like something new to watch that you would have watched in theaters anyway probably um it was going to give you something to talk about whether you liked it or didn't like it it was a really a moment of necessary normalness, like normalcy, and a tide of craziness just to be able to go on Twitter and be like, I did not like this movie. Tell me about why you did or did not like it. Was the flying, did it work for you? Swinging from lightning. Like, oh, God, not at all necessary conversation. Vital to my existence.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I didn't like the movie, but I'm so glad to have that. And sold a double feature on christmas yeah it was awesome i really like i liked wonder woman 84 i watched it after everybody had come out and been like what the fuck was that like people were mad uh so i had extremely low expectations i thought it was i also knew that the uh central conceit of the movie was a monkey paw wishing stone like that granted your wish and like so very silly uh it it like sort of took place it took those superhero movies back to like the christopher reeves era Superman sort of level of sophistication in that respect. But I just thought it was fun.
Starting point is 00:59:51 And I don't know. I thought it was also like, you know, a that just by wanting thing like having a want uh driven world is going to be okay and then it's like no that's i i thought it was a good like take on the 80s um so i thought it was fun i don't yeah i think like i said when it came out it's like an airplane movie i'm not invested enough in the franchise to have like a really strong feeling i think it was more just like plot hole stuff that i think the thing that bugged me the most was about that armor suit like above all else and i said it last time we first i'm like how the fuck is that thing strong enough to take on, like, the collective power of mankind?
Starting point is 01:00:48 But in, like, a fight with Kristen Wiig, who's turned up to, like, 14, it's, like, it's just turning into, like, a paper sheet. But, you know, other than that. Yeah, that's fine. Needed it. It was, like, to your point, Joelle, it was, like, nice to be, like uh hey we we haven't seen this fucking nobody has cool and not feel bad like like where other films i'm like do i need to see this in a theater or whatever yeah fire it up let's go no let's just do it let's watch it right now please distract me from the craziness that was that time yeah it you know gosh dc really knows how to do a first
Starting point is 01:01:24 and second act and to get a movie, a superhero movie specifically that is that tied into like the bright kind of fun comics we gear toward children. Like it hit a different type of nostalgia button for me that I really valued. Yeah. It reminded me of another superhero movie that I liked more than I think 90% of the
Starting point is 01:01:45 population Superman returns. Uh, I, I thought that was fun, but like it was, yeah, it was like sort of a bright world that was dumb and like, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:55 ultimately like a very flawed movie, but that I just, for some reason it just was a, my eyes liked watching it. Yeah. I understand entirely. Yeah. It's yeah vanilla ice cream you're like i don't know yeah it's not the best flavor but it's cool it's fine yeah and then since we mentioned soul came out on the same day you know i didn't quite hit for me i think in the same way like it
Starting point is 01:02:21 was uh wonder woman 84 i watched after people had given me very low expectations. So I watched expecting it to be on level with like top Pixar movies. And it was it was good, but it just wasn't like my favorite Pixar movie. OK, but have you just listened to the John Baptiste soundtrack yet? No, I've not. God, that band can play a piano. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is so good.
Starting point is 01:02:48 It's really, really good. I've been listening to it, like, as my nighttime music. And it's been very helpful. It's just soothing, but also sort of, like, has this uplifting. There are so many moments in that movie, particularly when he, like, gets into his groove and it's sort of, like, describing, like, what it is to transcend yourself in art.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Like, wow, what a beautiful statement to make for children. I liked like the main character, the drive of all that I had. My issue was, I really wish we could have seen a heaven that resembled like a black American ideal of heaven because it would have been funky and fun as hell.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Yeah. And I think that would have been like coco got an interesting afterlife i feel like we could have had an interesting afterlife too that's right that was it felt a little bit let yeah miles you mentioned that like when we first talked about this that you were hoping it to be a black like black coco yeah i was but then like it but then it got so existential i'm like okay so then i can't really even judge it like as anything aside from this narrative about our existence or whatever because yeah i was like this feels like you could have where's black cocoa i want that too and that'll do fucking numbers y'all are you fucking kidding me the memes would
Starting point is 01:04:04 be out of control. Control out. It would have been insane. And the character design came pretty close to giving us like a lot of what was great about Coco, which was like, oh, here's a culture on display in a way that's easily accessible, similar to Moana. And like the character design. And this is pretty great for a Pixar movie. Just a lot of details and stuff. But you can tell this was definitely
Starting point is 01:04:25 the way this movie got made was a white guy pitched it wrote it and then they were like we should probably bring in somebody black to like write and maybe co-direct it so they got the guy that did um he wrote the play one night in miami which regina king just launched on amazon um fabulous writer he put a beautiful he did the barbershop scene, of course, and viewed a lot of his father's jazz heritage into the film. But at the end of the day, you can see where he got to touch the things on Earth
Starting point is 01:04:56 and how they left it, and then sort of how they left the original script in contact with the beyond Earth stuff. And I think they made it work it's fine they crossed the finish line and it was interesting and good it like really moved my parents they really loved it so i think it's gonna hit its audience okay um but yeah it's definitely not up there on the top tier mantle of pixar movies it's no up or finding nemo yeah and pixar you still owe us black cocoa okay you do yeah this doesn't tick the box just so you know it doesn't tick the box but up or finding Nemo. Yeah, and Pixar, you still owe us Black Cocoa. You do.
Starting point is 01:05:25 This doesn't tick the box, just so you know. It doesn't tick the box. But still, I will say, yeah, that scene about talking about self-expression and creative expression, I actually got kind of emotional when I saw it because I was like, oh no, this movie is about to fuck me up. Oh, God. Anybody who has
Starting point is 01:05:42 any kind of creative medium, whatever they work through, or has an outlet where you can truly go into that place where you're like, I'm flowing. I'm zoning now. And you can't you can't catch me. Like that's really like the way they described it connected so immediately. I was like, oh, that was fucking really well done. But part of me was like, are kids going to actually understand that this shit is heavy? And like, are they capable of taking all this shit on?
Starting point is 01:06:09 And if they got inside out, they'll be able to vibe with this. I feel like that's sort of the dividing line. If your kids were like, oh, inside out, I get it. We're having conversations about emotions. You'd probably pick up on what's going down here. Yeah, there's a lot of good physical comedy, too, in the afterlife and people falling down and shit. And when he is a talking cat that my kids really loved. I should also say I was in and out on this
Starting point is 01:06:33 because I was having to run around and do different shit. So I didn't sit down and just take it in the way the filmmakers intended. So any criticism I have should be uh taken with a grain of salt i would also say bridgerton was also one that i was in and out on so i probably can't remain in and out of that they're not much story no it's a soft core porn like i really feel like i need netflix to acknowledge what it has created uh that should come with a warning like hey this is a
Starting point is 01:07:05 softcore porn because this is definitely something I would have sat down and watch at like 13 it's not for your 13 year olds uh right entertaining to a point I always expect listen Pride and Prejudice is my bag I love a Victorian era tale uh because and what makes those so good is like it's just a long string of longing. Like nobody is getting theirs. It is just forever. Like, well, they won't they.
Starting point is 01:07:28 And this show is like, Oh no, they will. And they'll do it again. And then a sexual assault in the middle of it. That we're just going to breeze by. Cause it happened to a dude. And it,
Starting point is 01:07:38 which was weird to me. I was like, we have to go back to that at some point because it's a problem. And the whole romantic story following this event is now making me uncomfortable um it was a wild ride I would like more shows like this still but maybe you know a tween more thought
Starting point is 01:07:54 in uh the actual structured writing of them yeah it all hinged on again is he going to shoot the club up and that's when I was like and i found myself getting mad because i'm like i'm only tuning in the next episode to see if he loves her via ejaculation so i was like and then i was like man this is fucking me i don't like i don't like how it's
Starting point is 01:08:16 been distilled to this one thing to describe how he feels about the person and oh my god then i was arguing with her majesty my partner i was like what the fuck you think i mean he could still the dad's dead what the fuck does the dad know anymore i was so frustrated by that i was so frustrated by that character but men are dumb so like i could totally see that like men give a shit about silly stuff and people have talked about it being like coming from a female gaze which like we definitely need and i thought it was much more attractive than most soft core porn that has come in the past um but yeah it like it reminded me you know it's a gossip like a gossip and fancy party driven
Starting point is 01:09:02 society and it reminded me of this tweet that I just have to, somebody, somebody said this tweet sums up liberal Twitter. A best D socialist said this tweet sums up a liberal Twitter. It's from Melanie Benjamin. She says in my fantasies, Pete and Jason will have Kamala and Dougie over for weekly potlucks that Michelle.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Oh, we'll crash with a bottle of wine and gossip after which Dr. Jill and Joe bring the dogs over along with some homemade brownies to enjoy while they all sing karaoke. And that, that reminded me of Bridgerton for some reason. Can we talk just really quickly about a show that's actually good. That's streaming right now that people can watch. Yeah's on netflix it's called lupin i don't know if you guys have
Starting point is 01:09:51 chance to see it it's uh originally a french but there's a really solid dub that won't tweak you out or take you out of the storyline um yeah if you i didn't watch it because we were watching Narcos Mexico and I got frustrated. I was just tired of not being able to look at my phone while I was watching a TV show, which is not good. But yeah, I was like, all right, I need to take a break from subtitles for a little bit. I totally understand. If you've seen the anime Lupin the Third, which is like very classic 80s like spy thriller, that's based off of an old French book about like a con artist slash Robin Hood type character who like steals from the rich and gives to the poor and gets like he gets a real high off of like duping mean people or bad people. So this guy who's Omar Sy is his his name he's an immigrant from africa but he's been living in france for a long time great actor you've definitely seen him in the background of a ton of your favorite movies this is his first like stepping into his own like role in space and
Starting point is 01:10:56 he's crushing it my brother keeps referring to him as a french idris elba he's definitely got that vibe of like cool black guy swagger trying to make it in a white man's world and it's like super fun it opens with him stealing a super expensive necklace from the louvre uh there are car chases and and he breaks out of prison by pretending to hang it like there's so many cool like just old school spy things um that's not once again sherlock holmes it is so brilliant and funny and the mystery is really well woven i don't like a mystery where it's too hard you're like i'm so lost in this mystery i don't even know what i'm supposed to be looking for and i don't like a mystery that's
Starting point is 01:11:34 spoon-fed to you where you're like well okay and now this happens that's boring it's a really tightly woven mystery that keeps you guessing and on your feet um i'm not allowed to watch it without my brother so we're only three episodes in but i'm really excited to finish it when i have internet in a week yeah brilliant yeah i was um i used to uh watch like lupin sanse the anime like back in the because like it was like the thing like my older because it was around like before i was born they're like you don't know lupin i'm like all right that's how every black person gets into anime because he kind of because lupin kind of has like a fade too you're like is he like because the hairstyle is like does he have a lineup and so light skin what's happening yeah that was i remember looking i'm like he doesn't look like the japanese people
Starting point is 01:12:18 i know uh but it also kind of looks like the yakuza at the time that had perms and shit to kind of have their hair curlier so like it's kind of in line with that. But, yeah, because now Lupin is... It's bigger than Bridgerton and Queen's Gambit. Like, it's overtaken those on Netflix as the number one series. And people are like, oh, shit, what the fuck? Oh, really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:37 This shit is fully blown up. So, I'm definitely going to watch that this weekend. Along with the other thing I was just going to point out. Batman, the animated Series on HBO Max. That shit. I fucking. That motherfucker is so good. Now I can.
Starting point is 01:12:53 People know. If you know. Look. If you know you know. And if you don't know let me tell you. You probably remember when you were a kid. Okay. Because it was like the Batman cartoon in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:13:02 I remember the season ended on my birthday. Like in like 95 or 94 or something like that. I was like, it's over. But watching it again, more so than it being Batman or whatever, it was more the experience of getting back into something that I had not watched in at least 18 years or something like that. And it was weird this the second the themes theme music came back up and the opening i'm like i like my brain started reconnecting like oh this is the part where you're gonna see the the goons like their eyes widened because batman is about to swoop on him and then it was it was like time traveling watching it and it was such a such a like
Starting point is 01:13:42 wonderful time because i was just thinking of all kinds of memories and shit that was like really pleasant it's also just fucking dope kevin conroy is like the best batman voice and the animation's good it holds up it's you know that's that's just some good shit to watch i can't i can't recommend it enough because it's also storytelling it's like adult it's really like as an adult oh shit look at oh what's oh man selena kyle wilding out right now you know it's like i really it was amazing how i could still enjoy at the same level so just another fun thing to to look back but yeah hell yeah uh well joelle as always so wonderful having you where can can people find you and follow you? Yeah, I'm Joel Monique.
Starting point is 01:14:27 You can find me all over the internet at Joel Monique. It's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E. And is there a show that you have coming out pretty soon? Oh, yeah, you know, check around May the 4th. For some Star Wars content coming your way. Some sick interviews, some deep dives into the movies, the books, the comics, the animated series, which I'm really excited to talk about. If you have never seen a Star Wars, we're going to start at the beginning for you. But if you're a Star Wars expert, we're going to be going into all of your favorite characters.
Starting point is 01:15:04 I'm talking Nightsisters. I'm talking Thrawn. I'm talking people who have never seen a movie before. It's going to be a lot of fun. Do you know Donald Paisa? Yes. And where can they get a sneak peek of what that show might be like? Yeah, head over to the Fake Doctors Real Friends thread.
Starting point is 01:15:20 And it's an all caps Star Wars special. It's a surprise Star Wars uh it's at the end of season three if you're looking for it it's right before christmas or no right after christmas we downloaded uploaded it so yeah check it out there it's a basically that's just a me and donald talking very broadly about some of our favorite star wars stuff so give you a little taste before the actual series comes out nice uh and is there there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, crap.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Hold on. You know, I haven't been on Twitter as much lately. And that is a fine answer as well. Oh, you know, but there was one from Darrenick Bird, who tweeted, Khalifa Browder allegedly stole a backpack at 16, spent three years at Rikers Island without trial. Riley Williams stole a laptop from
Starting point is 01:16:05 Speaker Pelosi's office and tried selling it to the Russians she was released to her mother um if you don't know the story of Kalief Browder he killed himself not too long um I believe after he was released from prison he spent three years without going to trial it was pretty tragic and so sweet by saying there are two justice systems in America Black Lives Matter um and I read that to you just because you know uh i think as we talked about at the beginning of the show there's a lot of people who are like a new day we're back to normal we can all relax yeah our normal was better before trump it was far from perfect and so i don't want us to just go back to quote unquote ignoring it yeah it's yeah yeah truly, it's... Yeah, truly. It's like, well, she looks like Daria. So then maybe we'll go easy.
Starting point is 01:16:49 It's like, she tried to sell the speaker's laptop to Russia. Whatever. I mean, this is... This is why, like, that whole insurrection shit was doubly exhausting, especially for people of color in this country, because you're like, okay, here we go. And watch them flex their whiteness to the point of like waltzing into the capital i'm like crazy uh miles where can people find you what's tweet you've been
Starting point is 01:17:15 enjoying ah twitter instagram at miles of gray and also uh 420 day fiance just talking 90 day fiance the complete antithesis of the news uh a tweet that i like uh you know uh christy yamaguchi main nudged me say hey you might like this tweet and i looked at it i said okay let me see what this is and this is from chipped front teeth at chipped front teeth uh and it's like a like um screen cap of like a wikipedia page for ambassador of the united states to jamaica and you go down it's chad hanks since january 21st 2021 i was like this is so stupid chad hanks yeah go go off the hanks mandem big them up uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh a tweet i've been enjoying ellie kramendahl uh had a couple tweets i've been enjoying one she just reminded us that when the celebs made the imagine video we'd been inside for a week
Starting point is 01:18:22 uh which was shocking to me I didn't realize that and she also tweeted the idea of a quote cheat day is so dumb I'll cheat on my husband whenever I want Ken Klippenstein tweeted going outside wearing oven mitts in hopes of becoming a meme
Starting point is 01:18:41 oh no and then this is just a good idea at low underscore lifer tweeted it would be cool if you could just get a cup of hot broth the way you can coffee um which i know you can in some places but like as omnipresent as that. And then... Yeah, that's fine. That'll do. Oh, and then Steph McCann tweeted, Oh, is my iCloud storage full?
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