The Daily Zeitgeist - IOWAck AF, Dunkaroo Strategies 2.5.20
Episode Date: February 5, 2020In episode 563, Jack and Miles are joined by The Greatest podcast co-host Megan Gailey to discuss the Iowa caucus, Trump supporters explanations for why he shouldn't be impeached, Wendy's breakfast, t...he return of Dunkaroos, 2020 movies that may influence the election, and more!FOOTNOTES: Abolish the Iowa Caucus Iowa Might Have Screwed Up The Whole Nomination Process Iowa caucuses: Attendee drops, breaks ‘concealed bottle of wine’ How unpopular is Donald Trump? Wendy's promises to end the era of stale fast-food breakfast on March 2 Dunkaroos are coming back—what else do you need to know? Spielberg’s Lincoln holds a mirror up to Barack Obama Steven Spielberg's 'West Side Story' Movie Unveils A Cool First Look Meet the Cast of the James Comey Miniseries From CBS TV Studios Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton influenced 'The Purge: Election Year' Looks Like The Candyman Reboot Is Taking The Character To New Places Mulan 2020 Mike Pence: Disney's Mulan is 'mischievous liberal propaganda' WATCH: Westside Gunn X Conway - Fendi Seats Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I feel the hay rise up in me
I wanna kill the DNC.
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This year is hell, I'm going to scream.
Iowa sucks for caucusing.
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Why can't you do things normally?
Just have a goddamn primary.
Okay, the timing was off a little bit,
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Yeah.
Which I think is a good thing, right?
Yeah.
They said that the truths that were revealed during the show were just too powerful in a public setting. Yeah. Yeah. Which I think is a good thing, right? Yeah. They said that the truths that were revealed during the show were just too powerful in
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Yeah.
They had to put the plaudits in lawsuit form.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious host of the new
podcast, The Greatest, the appropriately named podcast, The Greatest, because it might be
the greatest damn podcast out there.
Megan Gailey!
It's a really bold name for a brand new.
But it's a reference to the GOAT as in sports.
Right.
But it is crazy.
I'm sure there's people making fun of us for sure.
No, no, no.
No.
Why?
Well, don't you ever wonder who your biggest hater is
yes yes i already know someone i went to junior high school but but it may not be it could be
someone it could be anna right could be someone in your circle i'd you know i didn't like to i
don't like to entertain ideas like that but based on the way she looks at me throughout the show
yep okay maybe it's anna i just think you gotta look closer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah.
Okay, who's your biggest
hater? Do you know? I have an
ex-friend who I do think
hates me a lot. But then it's
also like there's gotta be someone I see
regularly who also hates me. Who's good at
putting the mask on? Yeah. Yes. And like
I wanna talk to that person because I wanna hear
their opinions because I think I'd be like, you've got some
really good points.
Yeah.
I am involved, self-involved.
Is that, so is it mostly like industry people you feel that or is like your original hater just some person who just doesn't like to see you thrive?
From middle school.
From middle school. Not from middle school.
Post middle school.
Yeah.
I think it's, I actually think the people middle school time are, they can't even hate.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
Because it's like, well, I don't like it, but good for her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I'll, oh, I'll take that.
I love that.
I mean, as Fat Joe said in his album, Jose, jealous ones still envy.
Yes.
But then I'm like, maybe it's crazy that I think I have a hater.
Maybe that makes me insane.
Listen, I have therapy tomorrow.
I'm going to bring this up.
Write that down.
Hey, this can be a day early therapy for you.
Let's dig into that.
Do some pre-ther.
To that.
Pre-ther, as we call it all the time.
Megan, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we are going to take our listeners through a couple of things we're talking about today.
No, Iowa, more like Iowa-whack as fuck.
Wow.
Gotcha, Iowa. Des Moines was one of the headlines that people were, I mean, people were just,
it was almost like America was waiting to just shit on Iowa.
And we shouldn't actually direct it at Iowa.
It should be directed at the party.
Come on.
No, I actually think Iowa's a lovely state.
No, the people who are caucusing, my God, I mean, that takes time.
That is one of the most involved forms of democracy.
Anything that legitimately involves a coin toss at some point.
I mean, those people take it seriously too
And it's not like
They don't have anything to do
That's not what I'm saying
But like they really
I was listening to a different podcast yesterday
And this woman said that she had
Personally met every candidate
Oh really
She goes I don't think I met Marianne Williamson.
It's like, well, if there's one to sit out.
Right.
That was a big mistake.
But I'm like, you met all the others.
I thought she was going to be like, I didn't meet Cory Booker or someone who was in the
mix.
But she said the craziest person.
Right.
She's like, oh, John Delaney.
I met him five times.
She's like, Sayre came over for dinner.
I am curious.
One detail that we learned about why they might be able to make a whole night of it is that some people bring wine to the caucuses. We'll talk about that.
We'll talk about who the just complete clusterfuck of reporting the results helps or hurts.
As of this recording, we should say we still have not received any results.
We're recording this a little bit before they drop the results.
Or half the results.
Half the results.
As we know right now.
We'll give you half of them.
Yeah, because they're not even going to drop.
It's going to be like a trickle.
Yeah.
But we'll check back in once we know the results.
Just like a golden shower.
You don't want a trickle.
But like an old man's golden shower.
You want a pressure washer.
Like a retirement community.
Just pressure wash my back with these results.
Gross.
We're going to talk about what this does to our faith in elections.
We're going to do impeachment stuff.
We're going to talk about how Trump and the conservative world are fucking spiking the football over Trump's approval hitting 49% in a Gallup poll.
49, 49, undefeated.
Okay, that's impersonal.
This is the highest his approval has ever been in a Gallup poll.
So seems like it would be a good sign.
But when you look at overall averages, it is still below any president in the modern era.
Yeah, but it's his best right now.
Right.
So, I mean, A for effort.
If this is CrossFit, man.
Grading on a curve.
They'd clap him up for his PR.
We're going to talk about Wendy's Breakfast.
We're going to talk about Dunkaroos.
We're going to talk about what movies are coming out this year and how they might affect or just relate to the election.
All of that., plenty more.
But Megan, first of all, I realize we never said,
what is The Greatest about?
Oh, The Greatest is a sports podcast.
Yeah.
And I host it with my husband, CJ Toledano.
Yeah.
And then we have a guest every episode.
It's a weekly.
We're not as devoted as you boys.
So weekly. Devoted or just desperate? Just not as devoted as you boys. So weekly.
Devoted or just desperate.
Just,
I mean,
some would say deranged.
Yeah,
right.
And we invite
a different guest
from the sports world,
comedy world,
a good friend
who loves sports
and we rank
and debate
the greatest,
whatever,
what it is,
greatest beef we've done,
greatest duo
came out today,
greatest coach
greatest uniform
everything
so if you have ideas
please send them to us
what's the greatest uniform
we haven't gotten to that one yet
oh
is that limited to
we've had three episodes
come out so far
and that has been
greatest beef
greatest duo
greatest Super Bowl
halftime show
who's the greatest duo
my greatest duo I My greatest duo,
I remember... Edger and James.
Well, my number three
was definitely Peyton and Marvin Harrison.
But I did look it up
because I'm
a homer and I guess I wear that with
a badge of honor. People say that
like a negative thing and it's like, no, you should
love the teams from where you're from.
I think it's crazy if you don't rep them. It it's fine that this is how i am but i do cross reference
when i think i'm being too much of a homer with sports illustratius but like i'll look at other
lists to make sure i'm not you're not like i wasn't yeah in outer space yeah i didn't say
like curtis painter right right and, because I know who that is.
Yeah.
You guys got engaged in front of a Reggie Miller mural.
Yeah.
I forgot.
I forgot.
So that's just important context.
You guys are a huge, you are a huge Pacers fan and a huge Indiana sports fan.
I mean, that's why you're a celeb to me.
Forever.
That's right.
I bring it up all the time
and people are like,
we don't care.
And I'm like,
I care so much.
You should do an episode
where you can just name Rick Smits
as the greatest of something.
I mean,
I just had a pilot not go
and there was a Rick Smits joke in it.
Oh, yeah.
They don't like Dutch slander.
No.
We don't like that take on the Dutch.
And the guy who I write with,
he's like,
who's that?
And I was like,
then it's perfect. I want it to be that obscure. Wasn't like that take on the Dutch. And like my, the guy who I write with, he's like, who's that? And I was like, then it's perfect.
Right.
That's exactly,
I want it to be that obscure.
Wasn't that someone,
the Duncan Dutchman?
Yeah.
Didn't like Shaq say he hated playing against Rick Smith?
Like of all the people,
he was like,
yo,
Rick Smith had my fucking number.
Rick Smith was so fucking good for a couple years.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He was like,
I think he was seven,
four.
He was like,
really?
He was seven,
four.
Yeah.
So he was one of those guys,
NBA players who are over, I think, 7'2",
like other than Shaq,
who is, I think, just made out of different material
than other human beings,
don't last very long.
And Rick Smith's had a peak that was just bonkers.
He was also pre the European and international wave
that we see now that's so celebrated and amazing for the sport.
He was before all of that.
So in Indiana, I remember as a child being like, oh, he's from South Bend.
He's white and tall.
His name is Rick.
Is he Larry Bird's son?
Right.
And his wife would wear overalls to the game.
I mean, it was a fun time.
Remember when he shaved his head?
It was the 90s.
Yes.
Oh, a bad look for him.
He had kind of a mullet.
The hair just came down.
Didn't care.
He just got out of bed.
I'm here to fuck shit up.
I don't think he had ever touched his hair.
He just went to get haircuts every once in a while.
Shaq says the four toughest players he ever played against,
Hakeem, The Dream, Olajuwon, Patrick Ewing,
David Robinson, and Rick Smith. You beat him twice in a row.
David Robinson.
Okay.
And Rick Smith.
Wow.
This is a quote from Shaq.
Rick destroyed me every time.
Oh my God.
Pick and pop.
Jump hook in the post.
I couldn't stop that kid.
If it wasn't for his foot problems, I probably never would have been able to stop him.
When we played them in the 2000 finals, I had to go back to some old tape.
I saw that this guy used to kill me. So now that I'm here in the finals, I had to kill him. When we played them in the 2000 finals, I had to go back to some old tape. I saw that this guy used to kill
me. So now that I'm here in the finals,
I had to kill him immediately so he understands
this is a different Shaq.
That's some respect right there. All big men, too.
I'm surprised there's not
a little guy who annoyed Shaq.
Yeah. Right. Well, nobody
was dumb enough to put a little guy on Shaq.
Yeah. It's like, oh, that Muggsy
Bogues.
Just a little gnat.
Just tripping over him.
Greatest duo was, was it Jordan Pippen?
They're definitely on my list, begrudgingly.
Yeah.
My husband said Jordan Bugs Bunny.
Okay.
Now everybody needs to listen to this show because that is fucking
yeah we're naming cartoon characters does lola bunny get in there oh well jesus when when cj and
i first started dating his best friend said you just like megan because she looks like lola bunny
oh my god and cj was like wow maybe that. Like, I do have sort of like a cartoon-esque animal vibe to me.
I've got a very bunny-like face.
Like, I'm a bunny with tits.
Okay.
And that's what he wanted.
Yeah.
And he hit the fucking lottery.
What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
This was this morning.
that is revealing about who you are?
This was this morning.
This was, I Googled if there was a way for me to buy myself into Delta Platinum status.
Oh, probably, right?
Yeah, of course.
There's a way.
It's America, baby.
There's a way.
Buy yourself into a fucking kidney.
Yeah, but it's a lot of money.
Is it?
Because I missed it a little bit.
How many miles?
But they emailed me and they were like,
you still have time they were like you still
have time right you still have time to give us 700 I'm so close oh it's like double that oh no
I'm really really close but then the thing is I've this is what comedians like talk about now
right when we're together it's like okay but if you have platinum on it and so I have heard that
platinum on delta almost isn't even it's great great, but you're never going to get upgraded LA to New York.
Right.
You're going to get upgraded LA to Portland.
Right.
And it's like, well, that's not a lay down bed.
Yeah.
No, no.
If a lay down bed is in play, I will sell my family to the devil.
Oh, wow.
If it's a regular old sit-in chair
and you get a cold
chicken Caesar salad,
get that shit out of here.
Right.
The first time,
I've only been in a full
lay down once.
I was upgraded on a flight
by the grace of our God,
whoever you want to name them.
In this case,
I'll say weed.
Ja.
From Japan to LA.
Oh, my God. And I was like yo we're her majesty and I were
like get ready fucking 11 hours wow and I drank port wine watching fucking mrs doubtfire with a
cheese plate yeah and I cannot believe three three square three wow yeah I even got uh visiting hours
too that sounded like someone from the back could come say hello. And an hour in the yard for exercise.
Wow.
That sounded like a, what's his name?
What's Maybach?
Rick Ross line.
Drinking port wine, watching Mrs. Doubtfire.
They doubt fire.
They see me in first class, think I'm an outlier.
Or Action Bronson.
This is like a really nitpicky thing, but sometimes I know they're like actual rich people
do not like when-
Normies get in there.
When normies walk through, you know?
But like I'm trash and not rich,
so I want everyone to have to walk past me laying in it.
And you're like, can I get the aisle seat?
No, I'm like making eye contact high out of my mind
with everyone.
And they're just like, who is this?
You're like, who do you think I am?
Trashy lost woman.
Who do you think I am?
What do you think my backstory is?
What are you telling yourself as you walk by?
The last time I flew, and it was not laid on bed.
It was just regular bed.
But I was wearing a brand new head-to-toe monochromatic Nike jumpsuit.
And I was like, I bet people think I'm a choreographer.
Yeah.
Oh, 100%.
You created your own
that's amazing did you have high top sneakers
I had like really cute
custom Air Maxes on
oh shit well I mean custom in the sense
they had like flowers on them
and my husband bought them for me
and he knows yeah yeah yeah
so I was like yeah people I was flying to Chicago I was like
people probably think I'm going in a month early
before all star game to choreograph the lovables,
and then I got to go back to LA.
Then you got to go back to LA.
In reality, I was...
Actually, I was going for a full reason.
By the way, you danced through that scenario
just for people to know.
Live in the studio.
The isolations were wild.
Yeah, wild.
Thanks, guys.
What is something you think is overrated?
Okay, this may be alarming to you guys.
I think kombucha tastes like shit. I'm furious. I think is overrated. Okay. This may be alarming to you guys.
I think kombucha tastes like shit.
I'm furious.
I think it's disgusting.
Okay.
And people have gone, no, this one's good.
Try this.
They're all trash.
Trash.
Is it the sort of vinegary aspect to it? Yeah, of course it's the vinegar.
Vinegar tastes like shit.
Yeah.
Salt and vinegar chips.
Why?
Oh, I love salt.
Don't come after my salt and vinegar chips.
I'm coming.
I'm coming.
I get it in the context of some of you drink, right?
You might not want that little bite, but I get it because sour tastes are in a lot of
like Japanese food.
So I get it, but I'm never seeking it.
But especially when you go out like on the east side, have you been to like little parties
or they're like-
I live in Highland Park.
It's all Booch cocktails.
I'm like, no, motherfucker.
I don't want Jack and Booch.
Okay, that's something that completely missed me.
They do Booch cocktails.
They're out here mixing the shit with whiskey.
Or like Booch with alcohol in it.
Yeah, it already tastes like something that's fermented,
like that went bad.
Well, yeah, you could get a little buzz, you know,
if you got the heavy kombuchas,
but now
they're really making it a cocktail kombucha always one time when i was a kid i took uh
orange juice on a camping trip it was out in the sun it went bad it like turned on it and that's
what kombucha has always reminded me of is the taste of when I took a big old gulp of like warm Boy Scout Pruno.
Yeah.
Boy Scout Pruno.
Exactly.
I understand drinking it for its health benefits.
I don't know what those are.
Right.
It hasn't been explained to me.
But if that's like if you're like, no, it's, you know, it's taking like a shot of wheatgrass or whatever.
But when people are like, no, it's good.
It's like, well, that now you've gone too far.
Like I'm willing to meet you there that there are antioxidants or something.
Somebody ruined coconut water for me by saying that it tastes like it's been in somebody else's mouth.
And I was like, yeah, that's true.
It really does taste like it's already just hung around in a mouth for a little bit.
And kombucha has like a loogie in it for the most part.
Like it has like a little piece of saliva hanging in it. What? What are you talking about? Have you never looked at the kombucha has like a loogie in it for the most part. Like it has like a little piece of saliva hanging in it.
What?
What are you talking about?
Have you never looked at the kombucha?
No, man.
Because every time someone offers it to me,
I'm like, no, I'm good.
I mean, I have a sip.
Yo.
No.
And that's it.
You would look at it and think it is basically like iced tea.
But if you pour that shit, there's like a loogie.
Viscous.
Yeah.
It's fucking gross.
I'm nasty, though.
People in the rest of the country
are like, what the fuck are they talking about?
This is like a true LA.
We're complaining about bad first class and kombucha.
But you know what?
This is the getting to know you section.
This is who I am.
And this is what it's like.
I'm sure everybody drinks it around the country in some places. the getting to know you section. Yeah, exactly. And this is who I am. You are a queen. And this is what it's like. Yeah. For people,
I don't,
I'm sure it's everybody drinks it around the country
in some places.
Yeah.
No, it's gone.
It's just,
I'm sorry.
It's just the cocktails.
That's when I had to draw the line.
For me,
I'm like,
no,
do not try and make this.
No,
but mixing as a mixer.
That's disgusting.
Are you serious?
Well,
that segues beautifully
into my underrated, which I think the people will like because now I'm coming back down to earth.
Okay?
You're going to really feel the Indiana in me.
I think the most underrated drink of all time is Fresca.
Fresca.
Fresca and vodka.
It's so good.
You mean frotka.
Oh, my God.
I cannot wait to be
90 years old and
have like at that point I think they'll
have giant jugs of Solo Cup
and I'm just gonna like
sip out of it like it's Gatorade
on a sideline.
How often do you drink frotka?
I mean I had
like four on Sunday. I had four
on my way in.
No, I don't have it as often.
Delta, my airline of choice, has Fresca.
Thank you.
Oh, who is the parent company of Fresca?
Is it Coca-Cola or Pepsi?
I think it's Coke. Oh, it has to be Coke because Delta is Atlanta.
Coke is Atlanta.
If they did, I'm sure the universe would have loved it.
And Fresca is, like, people are like, LaCroix.
No, Fresca is zero calories, zero sugar.
Delicious.
It's the best mixer.
Oh, that's artificial sugar
in Fresca? I don't know what the fuck's in it.
Zero sweetener? Zero calories?
That's all sweetener then.
That's the only way you get that taste. Delicious.
I like the grapefruit bite
or the vague grapefruit bite
of a Fresca. It's like a
prickly Greyhound.
I love a Greyhound. Yeah, see? And now you're talking about the working man's Greyhound. Fresca. It's like a prickly Greyhound. Yeah, sure. I love a Greyhound.
Yeah, see?
And now you're talking
about the working man's
Greyhound.
Fresca and vodka.
Boom.
Oh, so good.
And finally,
what is a myth?
What's something people
think is true
you know to be false?
Billie Eilish is 45.
We gotta stop.
She's not 18.
I don't think
that's her brother.
I'm getting very, if it is her brother, if it is her brother, it's very Property Brothers
vibes.
If you know what I'm hinting at.
I don't.
No, what that means?
Incest.
Oh.
No, I can't.
Aren't they twins?
No, well, that's the thing.
It's like he looks-
Is it one man?
Is it two?
Oh, the Property Brothers are twins. That's what I'm talking about. And I think that they're deeply in love with each other. Well, that's the thing. It's like he looks- Is it one man? Is it two? Oh, the Property Brothers are twins.
That's what I'm talking about.
And I think that they're deeply in love with each other.
Oh, okay.
Like sexually.
Is that why they all hang out together?
I think so.
It's like our wives have to approve of each other because we have to be together all the time.
Yeah.
Marrying a twin would be- I actually have a friend who is a twin and she married a twin.
And I actually think that's maybe the only right way to do it.
Yeah, without the-
Otherwise, they shouldn't be allowed to marry.
Well, it all depends, right? Because I have friends that are identical
twins and they have their distance.
They're not on like,
you know, you see other twins
who are identical and they're like,
no, you're my, hey Darce,
you're my twin.
Versus people being like, yeah, I don't know what my sister's doing.
My dad is a fraternal
twin and he has no idea what his brother's doing.
Yeah.
I mean, he checks it.
Like, sometimes I forget they're twins.
Right.
Because he has two other brothers, and he's equally, if not more so.
I mean, like, they love each other, but there's definitely not, like, a sixth sense that they have going back and forth between them.
No, I think Billie Eilish is a day over 35.
Okay, so give me some, what do you,
obviously you've made some observations.
You go, this is 2017.
What are we dealing with?
They're writing this music that is like,
what are you talking about?
At 16, you haven't experienced any of the things
that you're talking about.
You wouldn't even like know, like it's so,
it's not even like sexual.
It's just sort of like moody that you cannot have it.
Right.
Like moody 16 year olds are like getting lava lamps.
Right.
They're not winning.
But that was back in our day, Megan.
I know, but it's not even the level of success.
It's just her face is also not the face of a 16 year old girl.
Right.
We have, it's just not. She's not a child.
You think we'll always do this with young artists that come out?
Like Lorde was, you know.
No, well, no, but Lorde looked like a little girl.
Did she?
I mean, not a little girl, but.
Everyone came after Lorde.
They're like, yo, Lorde is 48.
Well, I always was like, Lorde looks.
There's just like a facial structure thing. But I think we come after them or we speculate
because if there was an industry that
would lie about the age of a
superstar, it's music for sure.
Oh, for sure.
And they were like, okay, now go out there and say
you don't know who Van Halen is. Exactly.
Like trying too hard.
Put on like really weird clothes.
Say you know every episode of The Office.
They're going to freak out other 35-year-olds.
And so even if she's 25, which I do believe she – I said 45, you know, for a fact.
Right.
We're going down a decade.
I think she's 25.
Okay.
And I think they are like that will be less exciting.
Uh-huh.
Sure.
And I guess that's true, but it's like we would still like her.
I think she would still win all these Grammys if she was just 25.
Right. I do wonder, like is that something somebody could get away with today uh yeah absolutely right but then what happens when the when it all comes down well when would it all come
down well then there's a scandal right then we love a scandal right and so then she gets to have
a comeback it's kind of like a win-win didn Rebel Wilson, and this may happen to me. I hope not. I hope this isn't like libel or slander.
Rebel Wilson sued an Australian newspaper for printing.
I believe it was her actual age.
Right.
But she won the case, so maybe it wasn't.
Yeah.
But yeah, people try and out people's fake ages.
Yeah.
I know somebody who's pretty famous who lost about five years from when
i knew them before yeah yeah i can't wait i can't wait to be like i was born in 91 sure fuck it yep
91 91 i remember seeing ghostbusters in the theater right the next the next time you see me
i'm gonna be like i was born post 9-11 um Right. What was it like? Can't remember it. Oh, my God. I'll never forget it, but I can't remember it.
Right.
That's so funny.
OK, Boomer?
Well, Boomer is the Pacers mascot.
So OK, Boomer is like really tough for me.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
That is difficult.
That must hurt.
Yeah, because I love him.
And I'm like, you don't need to bring my Boomer into this.
Don't stay away from him.
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And we're back and here we are in the future from when you were just listening to us talk uh the 62
percent uh of results have been released as of now could be more by the time you hear this and
it's buddha judge yeah that that's as of now we just got the first incremental release but we
wanted to get a little bit uh with like having uh felt this titanic groundswell uh you know buddha judge in a
landslide i think is the takeaway yeah uh he's as of 62 i think he's ahead of bernie by like two
points so that is developing yeah but yeah as you'll hear in the following segment we didn't
know who had anything and to this point we actually don't know who the declared winner is still.
But yeah, Washington Post has like was running some models where they were saying it's like not as like the lead isn't as safe as you might assume based on the numbers, like it's an unlikely to trend in the direction that Buttigieg is going to
open up a bigger lead than he currently has based on,
you know,
what precincts haven't reported or what caucuses,
caucus high?
Yeah.
Cause then Sanders is ahead in the Washington post room,
but Buttigieg is ahead in whatever.
Well,
Sanders is ahead in the popular vote.
Right,
right,
right.
No matter where you look
no matter how you cut that cake and uh yeah enjoy the rest of the segment yeah so what the fuck
happened uh we're still at a stage where we don't know any of the results other than what the
sanders campaign released we know their own internal numbers which those were entry polls
like those were polls of people going in or those are the
sanders numbers or those no those are those are from them from people reporting from inside those
caucuses like internal data that they have sent back but didn't pete's camp release some internal
stuff too i don't know what they released i think they're just no numbers they're just like
whited out bernie's name and wrote pete name. They're like, oh, Pete, good. I mean, even Bernie's numbers look good for Pete in the sense that he came in a fairly close second to Bernie.
Yeah.
And I can see how Pete would interpret that as a win because he's just assuming that Bernie will be taken out by the DNC in some way. So, right.
Monday night, everyone's
on the edge of their hemorrhoid cushions
trying to know what is happening in Iowa.
By the time
they said, hey, we're going to get results at this time.
Fucking not coming, not coming, not coming. Constantly
when they're coming, when they're coming.
There's shit like people were getting hung up on
live on the air when they were trying to call the party,
like the state party. Yeah, Wolf Blitzer fucked it it up he was like and just uh real quick can you
answer it and the guy's like wait wait they just actually just picked up hold on and then like they
hung up on it that was one of the more stressful moments of tv watching i've ever had right so
there's this moment where they said okay we're not going to get any kind of announcement of the
winners which caused this like second wave of like speculating or people going out there saying, well, you
know, Bernie did the thing where he said, I have a feeling we did very, very well today.
Which was fine.
Yeah.
Pete Buttigieg declares victory in his own way.
Was like, we shocked the world.
Yeah.
You know.
And I think, you know, people are mad about that.
But I think in terms of just looking at it as, you know, the game of politics is about being opportunistic and picking your shots.
If nobody in that time period between when they said, yo, we don't know what's going to happen with the results.
A lot of these candidates should have been out there talking.
Everyone was sort of like, what the fuck?
So it was radio silence from a lot of people.
And I think if you're working with a candidate, you'd be like, yo, get out there and go, you make some headlines right now. Cause nobody's
part of the conversation. And I see why mayor Pete goes out there and says something like,
you know, we shocked the world. We did it y'all. Right. Because he's looking at it. Well,
you know, I'm not saying I won, I'm sort of implying that I won, but more, it was more of a
spiritual victory, like a good achievement by their team on the ground.
So it's, you know, I get why people are pissed.
But at the end of the day, the results will come out eventually.
And you will see who won.
Yeah.
We just don't know who yet.
But isn't the whole point of Iowa is you win and then you get this momentum.
Right. And then you also get a financial boost because people are like,
oh, okay, I'll give money to that person.
He's viable.
And so even when we do find out eventually who won,
which may be 48 to 72 hours after, it's kind of already on to the next.
Yeah, that was Nate Silver's point.
He was saying that this might totally swing swing their math on who's going to win
because if Iowa, usually the whole deal with Iowa, like you said,
is that it creates momentum for the winner.
For instance, they said that they had it modeled out
so that if Bernie Sanders won,
and it was reported like it normally would be, he started out at 31% before the caucuses,
they had him jumping to 58% to win the nomination overall. But because it is completely blunted,
But because it is completely blunted and they're basically doing a calculation to set the other boundary of what if Iowa was just canceled and we never found out anything about who won?
Bernie would be down to 24% because they were building in the possibility of that wave.
It seems like it will just mean the later primaries will matter more. Right.
Because it still won't have been
decided. Right. I mean, I
was canvassing this weekend.
Wow. I'll hold
for applause.
I mean, did I do it just so I could
talk about it on the show? Maybe.
I mean, when you're out canvassing, people ask
you questions. I know, your Bloomberg t-shirt looks-shirt looks great i'm here to not feel guilty okay not
to tell you where your polling place is ma'am so and every single house we went to but one they
were like we uh we don't know right we don't know who we're voting for yet oh really yeah wow i mean and and this is in california yeah this was in monrovia okay um so
a little bit east of la and so these are like working class families that are you know every
house we went to there was like a baby cry like these are people that are like doing shit and are
not on twitter and are not like they they didn't even know iowa was happening and it's not like
them being ignorant or naive.
They're working and living their lives.
But they all knew the candidates.
And they were like, I'm leaning this way or I like this person.
But they truly had, there was not one decided voter we talked to, but one older black woman who was like, I like Elizabeth Warren.
And we were like, okay, thank you, bye.
One person, no.
who was like, I like Elizabeth Warren.
And we were like, okay, thank you, bye.
One person, no.
Yeah, I think even with the whole idea of this bump you get from being announcing on the stage,
I felt like a lot of pundits were really leaning like,
oh, this hurts Bernie a lot.
This hurts him a lot that he can't go up there and give the...
Because that's sort of born out of this idea
that they're sort of placing a lot,
their own created value from being the media by being like,
yeah, and then you're on TV doing this,
and then that's how we feel important because we allow that to happen.
Because at the end of the day, it seems like, you know,
based on how a lot of people are talking, how the results went,
Bernie Sanders probably did well in Iowa.
And I don't think, you know, knowing that he has a ton of momentum in terms of how he's polling in New Hampshire, which is the next one.
He's going to win New Hampshire.
It's not like the same.
I don't know if that's necessarily a negative.
Sure, he loses that like optics win.
But if we're talking sort of the raw data of like getting these delegates, I think he's in a good place.
Then there's like the whole thing about Biden where they're like, well, this helps Biden.
Right.
Because he didn't from all from the reporting I saw,
like when people were in a lot of these caucusing places,
fucking Biden support was like.
He wasn't even a viable candidate.
It was not, it was a little cringy.
It was like kind of limited to the elderly.
Yeah.
Is there, is there anything to be said?
Because like everybody came out of the,
or everyone that I'm at least seeing on my timeline
being like, ugh, Mayor Pete.
Is there anything strategy-wise where he was like,
maybe I need to show that I'm the shadiest candidate
because we're probably going to need,
like as none of them have come out and said I won,
except for him and he did all the morning shows today too.
It's like, oh yeah, we actually do need a shitty person right at their core to maybe beat this to play the game hella
hella shitty person I haven't heard that said but I had that thought as he was like doing that I was
like this is really shrewd yeah and probably unethical and like the fact that heading into
the caucus he had a poll spiked that had him
not like in a good like i think the poll was like disappointing numbers wise and he found one person
who said that they hadn't offered him as an option and was like well this poll is invalidated and so
cnn just didn't report it like he is working all the angles in a way that is probably unethical, but we're going against a proven cheater.
Right.
Eventually.
Yeah, he took a little page out of Trump's book.
Like a thing I hear a lot of Bernie supporters saying is that he's like a CIA op, like Pete is, which I mean.
There's worse things.
Right.
I hate him.
The company that he worked for certainly has some connections there.
But again, if you're just thinking about we need Trump out of the office for the sake of America,
you might want somebody who has some experience doing covert ops.
Your candidate is going to be like, are you versed in knife fighting?
Yes, yes.
Okay, well, that definitely puts you in the running.
I mean, if you're the mayor of South Bend, you're definitely first night by day.
Yeah, you know, the people, there are a lot of people who are quick to say that, like,
he had something to do with the app failing.
Because a lot of this has been, which is not true.
I think if anyone, I forget which campaign actually paid the most to this company,
but it's not even because they were paying to, like, meddle with the actual app.
Right.
this company, but it's not even because they were paying to like metal with the actual app.
Right.
So the whole delay in counting these, the votes are counting who the delegates are going to go to is born out of this problem where all the people were supposed to use an app to enter the results
that would just go to a central database. So then they can be like, great, here's our digital
digitized results that we can just pull from because there's three data sets that they're
using. And it's, it's a new thing.
Like there's the popular vote after the first alignment,
then the popular vote after who's viable and who isn't.
Then you start vying for more people to see who can make the cut in the second alignment
just to see how those votes were.
And then from there, they have to then calculate
what fraction of a delegate each precinct win means.
So there's a lot of data going around.
And this app just fucked up, basically.
I mean, I don't know what you just said.
So, like, I can't imagine.
I'm like, oh, my God, these poor people.
I think the thing that is confusing me, and probably I've heard it, like, kind of referred
to, is that it seems like if you had run the election
like we presumably did in the 60s where you took the paper ballots you you wrote the number down
on a piece of paper of like how many people were in each thing this checks out drove drove the shit
to like probably I think they had phones back in the 60s so maybe they didn't have to drive it but
like well let's verify before we make a claim like that.
Right.
But 24 hours later, you would have the results.
Sure.
So if you had somebody just sitting there with a fucking abacus, just counting all the shit, doing the math.
They could even watch a YouTube video how to learn the abacus, then use that new knowledge you would have the numbers by now but like somehow in trying to enter it into a
app that didn't work and trying to call this information in that exists in these various
locations they are unable to there were just too many people calling that everything was just
a fucking the thing is too with this app they really fucking like were relying on this thing
like like here's the new shit and when you look at what like what people were saying The thing is, too, with this app, they really fucking like were relying on this thing.
Like, like, here's the new shit. And when you look at what like what people were saying, like people in these precincts who are using the app would lose any of the previously inputted results if they didn't keep the screen open.
So like there was shit built into the coding, too, that was just like, oh, my God, my screen went out and it just erased all the inputted data.
Just like, oh my God, my screen went out and it just erased all the inputted data.
Then there was another thing going on that a lot of people were saying that the app was basically just slapped together in the last two months.
I mean, we're just relying on like unproven technology too. And I don't know who in the fuck in the DNC is like, yeah, this is a great idea and let's cause even more problems.
The cynical version is they knew Bernie was going to win and they wanted to rob him of the speech to get that sort of momentum going.
But that's I mean, you know, however you look at it, the whole thing is just a fucking disaster.
Can I ask a question?
I think of Bernie and Elizabeth as having like pretty much the same policies with some changes here and there.
If anything, in a lot of ways, she's actually – with the guns, she's further left.
Like they're both the furthest left.
So why do people think that the DNC hates Bernie so much more than they hate her?
Because he is not a Democrat.
He's not like a true Democrat.
He's a democratic socialist.
And I think because he's like, they see the energy he has and like the attention it's bringing truly towards like the like wealth distribution in this country.
That Elizabeth Warren is doing the same thing, but she's still a capitalist.
And I think that's the difference.
She's like, I'm still a capitalist. I just feel that we can have capitalism work for everybody on the Bernie
camp. They're like, no, capitalism is the exact reason we have all these fucking problems in terms
of our like working people having no viable income, not being paid living wages, our healthcare
system being completely in shambles. So they're diagnosing the problems differently. And I think for other people who are firmly in the, hey, capitalism's
great because the wealthy get to keep making money. They don't like the diagnosis of the
Bernie side of things, which is like, it's capitalism. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Thank you for
clearing that up for me. But they're still, yeah. But to most people, they're like, well, yeah,
they're arguing for like, let's try and wipe
out some of the student debt.
Let's get everybody insured.
But there are some things where, you know, people who support Bernie Sanders wish Elizabeth
Warren goes a little bit harder on.
But that's where she can't quite move because at the end of the day, she's like, well, I
still believe in the markets and I still believe in, you know, people in these boardrooms somehow
doing the right thing, even though there's no historical evidence that would confirm that.
But I guess if they build enough structure around capitalism, they can make it work for people.
OK.
So we already kind of covered everything there is to cover about the Trump's approval popping to 49 percent.
By the way, we are going to check back in once we have the results from Iowa,
or at least the partial results from Iowa.
There is a drill in the background.
That is the DNC.
Yep, DNCIA.
They're doing everything in their power to just get to those results.
Did you guys see the Ben Carson photo?
Yes.
Oh, it made me laugh.
Really?
So it's a photo.
It's all the Trump people leaving Iowa.
Yes.
And they've all got red hats on and they're all in seats.
But then for some reason, Ben Carson is like kneeling in the middle of the aisle.
Yeah, like sitting on somebody's armrest.
Or they just like needed him to be like, come on, Ben, closer.
We actually need to see you, bud. Yes. Oh, I mean, he definitely had a seat for him? Yeah, armrests. Or they just needed him to be like, come on, Ben, closer. We actually need to see you, bud.
Yes.
I mean,
he definitely had a seat.
I don't know if...
Was he flying the plane?
The cynical version is like,
hey, get our token in there.
Yeah.
That's what it looks like.
Miles, I don't even think
that's the cynical version.
I think that's
the truthful version.
I don't know why
I give white supremacy
a chance sometimes.
I'm like, maybe it's...
I think you're giving Ben the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, and then Karina, what's her face, Pearson or whatever, is sort of in the same area.
I mean, wow, they're center-framed.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wilbur Ross with the hat on.
What swag.
I know.
He looks great.
I mean, I think that's the big takeaway from that picture, Wilbur Ross.
I mean, actually, Ben Carson is quite literally the focal point of this photograph.
I mean, he actually looks young and vibrant and pretty good.
No, but I mean, even the way, I'm just thinking as a photographer, with your aperture, your
depth of field is actually, you're adjusting it so he is the most in focus in the photo.
Which I don't think anyone on the Trump campaign is good at taking photos.
So I don't think that was on purpose.
But I do think his placement was on purpose.
A lot of people benefit from being slightly out of focus too.
It helps sort of obscure their pictures.
Maybe that's why I'm like, he looks so good.
But it does look like they just photoshopped him into the middle of a picture.
But I'm just trying to say there are fun things happening out of Iowa.
There's been some fun moments.
Yeah, and I think all this to say, right,
I know there's, just from working on campaigns
and things of this nature,
there's so much anticipation built up for these days
where all of your work is hinging on these couple hours
on a Monday or Tuesday.
And when you do all your work, you start caucusing,
you get all your work done, and then you feel like, fuck yeah do all your work, you start caucusing, you get all your
work done and then you feel like, fuck yeah, we did it.
And to not have that moment where you can say, hell yeah, we did that.
I really, my heart goes out to everybody in every campaign because that's why a lot of
the times you, you have those moments that sort of energize you.
Um, and so I don't want to take anything away from the people, uh, of Iowa, but my God,
the fucking party really showed how just out of fucking sorts they are.
Last night I was thinking that it felt like a high school play opening night.
And the first scene of the play, the entire set fell down.
Right, right.
And then they were like, um.
CNN was losing their shit.
Like if you change to MSNBC, they were just kind of like.
What the heck's going on?
Yeah, MSNBC was kind of going with the flow like, yeah, but this isn't the end of the world.
But CNN, like for whatever reason, just could not deal with their shit.
They were losing it.
We are also rightfully so hypersensitive.
We just had a major foreign enemy interfere with an
election. And now the first
part of the 2020 election
feels like a giant debacle.
And so it's almost
impossible to not
get overly like, oh my
God, it's happening again. We're terrified.
We're so scared
of losing and of something
going wrong.
And this like plays into their hand,
but it's like, it's okay.
It's February.
We've got time to go.
But then you just start like, oh, the DNC is,
can we get Queer Eye there?
Like they need help.
They're just floundering.
Something we talked about on Tuesday's episode even
is that like so much of the coverage
is about the horse race.
It's like, well, but this, our coverage will then influence the coverage, which will influence
like who wins.
Yeah.
It's like.
It's not examining what the leadership of any of these candidates would mean for the
country.
When you go back to like the fact that this is a major scandal, it's really just like
the news cycle is delayed 24
hours like it shouldn't necessarily like it it's a news story about the news story essentially it's
like well now like the whole impact is gonna be blunted because now we're freaking out about this
yeah it's like okay okay you are right you're freaking out about this i like the people you
were canvassing talking to probably
don't give a shit about this no um but this is a massive story and it gave like the conservative
media a nice chance to you know make fun of democrats the average voter isn't going to say
like oh man what happened in iowa well there goes bernie's post iowa kick that he's gonna get in a
hamster that only pundits talk about.
And I get why they talk about it, because the media does inform so many people's opinions about things.
But like, hey, just just let just let them happen as they're going to happen.
Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Oh, one thing we didn't cover in the Iowa piece was the woman who smuggled a bottle
of wine into the fucking gym and then dropped it and it shattered.
She shouldn't have had to smuggle it.
Like it was an episode of The Office.
Like it's just amazing being in a thing like that.
Well, why would you bring red wine, ma'am?
You're going to have purple teeth.
You're going to walk up and be like,
Amy Klobuchar.
And then you're going to be like, ma'am.
I'm sorry, what?
Did you eat a pack of blueberries?
Get out of here.
If you're trying to smuggle wine in,
white.
Hey, I was Yang,
but now I'm Klobuchar.
So guys, just come on in here
and you're gonna get viable.
Right.
I think they should be allowed to drink.
Oh yeah.
Fuck yeah.
I think, I mean,
I guess it's a school.
I think the whole process kind of,
I'm assuming,
because I didn't
understand the Iowa caucuses before
last night, because I was
like, why would everybody set aside
a night to go stand
in a crowded room with a bunch of strangers
and talk about politics?
That sounds like a fucking nightmare.
But if they're drinking, if they're smuggling
bottles of wine, that makes more sense.
It's like, oh, yeah, that would actually be okay.
There's something sweet about the process, I think.
I actually, and I know everyone's like, do away with it.
And it's like, yeah, but I do like the idea of like you and your neighbors being in the high school gym together.
Yeah, let's just not do it as the first one that the media fucking loses their shit.
Maybe not a caucus.
Maybe we turn it into like a jump
rope for life. Wow.
But I still like the concept.
Absolutely. We also
didn't talk about impeachment stuff which is
progressing along towards
absolutely nothing.
Nowhere. No. But it just seems
like the Republicans
are sticking at
it was bad but not impeachable.
Okay, that's one excuse.
He didn't do anything wrong.
The Democrats in the House are evil.
And the Democrats in the House didn't actually prove anything.
Those are the four buckets.
And they're all making them all at the same time.
Even though they're all making them all at the same time which even though they're all logically
contradictory
so
oh remember when
Dershowitz
his like new thing
was like
well
every candidate
thinks them being elected
is in the public interest
and I was like
oh this is
so wild
and they need to be like
no I didn't really mean that
nevermind
I don't want smoke
yeah
and then he was like
immediately taken off,
like out of the Senate.
They're like, you just argued
that the president
can do fucking anything?
Well, he basically argued
anyone who's running
for any public office
could do anything.
Whenever there's a drought.
Sorry, I forgot
what the rest of that lyric was.
I was going to say it
and then blew it.
Get your umbrellas out because that's when I brainstormed.
That's when I brainstormed.
Fuck!
Yeah, I mean, what he argued was that Nixon could have done Watergate.
Yeah.
Like that Watergate.
Come on, guys.
Leave Nixon alone.
He did okay. Now that it's more
than likely that, yeah, I mean, it's pretty much a nailed on certainty that the Senate is just
going to disgrace themselves and acquit the president. Trump is more focused now on phase two,
which this is out of Vanity Fair. Some Republicans are being interviewed anonymously. This one Republican, prominent Republican, said it's payback time.
He has an enemies list that is growing by the day.
I mean, in high school, this would get you expelled.
Right.
An enemies list?
Oh, yeah.
He's got a burn book.
So apparently it's Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Mitt Romney, and John Bolton.
Stormy's nowhere on there?
No, no.
And a lot of people are saying he's going to try and go up Bolton so hard, like he's
trying to get him in jail.
Uh-huh.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
We'll see how that plays out.
He seems to have a really good grasp on the law.
Will you tell me the enemies list again?
I'm so sorry.
Yes.
I'm visualizing him write it with like a dull pencil.
Adam Schiff.
Okay.
Jerry Nadler. Okay. Mitt Romney. Okay. I'm visualizing him write it with like a dull pencil. Adam Schiff. Okay. Jerry Nadler.
Okay.
Mitt Romney.
Okay.
And John Bolton.
Wow.
John Bolton.
John Bolton.
Yeah.
I can't wait to see what he does to those people.
Yeah.
Watch him abuse his power further.
Right.
Even to people within his own party and watch.
They're going to be like well you
know mitt romney was never a republican he was actually socialist this whole time but he was
your nominee for president no no actually no i don't know that because he went against him he
went against trump so that means he's actually dog shit i can't yeah i keep assuming that like
well now they're gonna really crow when they see like how fucked up his abuses of power are and
like no they just don't maintain minority they're just so scared of power are. And they just don't give a fuck.
Maintain minority power.
They're just so scared of him.
Yeah.
And they have to maintain this slim minority power
that they have,
or it's gonna be lost to fucking progress, essentially.
Yeah.
No, it's complete disaster, backsliding.
Let's talk about Wendy's breakfast.
Okay, thank God. let's switch gears to
something really invigorating i love a good fast food breakfast okay mickey d's is still my number
one but wendy's is out here as they say they are unleashing new breakfast materials i did not know
about now some people apparently may have been in limited markets but this new shit um i'm
just looking at this baconator breakfast sandwich it looks like a guaranteed heart attack by bite
three what about it makes it a breakfast sandwich the baconator breakfast because it has egg and a
sausage patty but then everything else bacon american cheese no, no. And it's on a burger bun, though. Yeah. Huh.
What about the, so that's a biscuit that has fried chicken on it?
Yep.
Because it has bacon, it's breakfast?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's like a chicken biscuit.
You know, that's how we navigate that one.
Love the context.
Did I hear they were going to be doing Frosties with cold brew?
Yes, you did. No, you didn't. A Frosty Chino. She did not hear that were going to be doing frosties with cold brew yes no you did no you didn't a frosty she did not hear that yes it is what oh wait actually
no the baconator is has a bacon uh burger patty in it pardon me pardon so it just has an egg
and they're like breakfast that's breakfast bro blow it out with that but then the other ones
you can use traditional breakfast meats but yeah yeah, the Frostichino. Yeah.
I found out about Wendy's Breakfast because I had a friend who auditioned to be the voice of it.
And she was like, I'm auditioning to be the voice of Wendy's Breakfast.
And I was like, what the fuck?
Why didn't I get asked to audition for the voice of that?
And so Wendy's Breakfast is like starting off on a bad foot with me.
Yes.
Not that.
Secret hater.
So you're someone's secret hater.
Do you want a Baconator?
Like I'm clearly not the voice.
I don't know. Like a Frosty with coffee, you dumb piece of shit.
I'm sorry, Megan.
Can we try that one more time and just stick to what's in the sides there?
Okay.
Baconator.
Great.
Do you wish that the Frosty would make you have to shit incredibly bad?
Immediately?
Like speed home?
So good though.
Oh, yeah.
Dipping those fries in it?
Is that?
Well, now will they be dipping tater tots?
Yeah.
Yeah, or maybe French toast sticks?
I'm sorry.
I have to, this just in.
The Baconator does have a sausage patty.
The breakfast Baconator.
Okay.
So it is, they're trying to respect the sanctity of the breakfast meats.
This is like the Iowa caucuses.
Yeah, you never know.
Your reporting on this is just back and forth.
Yes.
We're hearing.
Yes, and they do predict that this will contribute to a 10% growth in sales.
Okay, great.
March 2nd.
Dunkaroos back.
Yo.
I didn't, first of all, I didn't know they ever left.
Yeah.
But apparently these shits were canceled in 2012.
I think we've just not been up to the age.
Yeah.
I mean, first of all, did everyone here engage in dunkarooing?
Oh, yeah.
Dunkaroo consumption?
Yeah, absolutely.
I had like a whole strategy.
What was your strategy?
So my strategy for Dunkaroos and for like the snacks that were the cracker with cheese.
The craft with the red plastic thing that you could slash somebody's face with.
Good.
My strategy was go light early and bulk up at the end.
Thank God.
Yeah.
We all have that deferred gratification mindset.
Same way I eat Lunchables too.
Yeah.
I'm like, I would eat a couple light ones just for the end and be like, yo, bro, I'm
eating a fucking fistful
of meat and cheese.
So Dunkaroos,
they're coming back in 2020.
And really the only reason I wanted to bring this up was to
find out everyone's Dunkaroo eating strategy.
Sometimes I would fucking eat all
the cookies and leave two
and try and just get my last
two, just pure diabetic shock.
Yeah, but sometimes do you have to use your finger to finish it off?
You can't get everything.
You can put your tongue in there.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Well, shout out to Dunkaroos.
From Betty Crocker.
I didn't realize that was a Betty Crocker product.
They were probably just like, we got all this extra frosting in the factory.
Can you put it somewhere?
Oh, yeah.
They're like, yeah, and these to-go things.
The leftovers.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, oh, boy.
So, I mean, hey,
everyone get high
and get your Dunkaroos.
I recently saw
at like one of those coffee shops
that's like an artisanal coffee shop,
Adult Lunchables.
No.
Yeah.
What do you mean?
What that means?
It was just a like
cheese and cracker package,
but-
They called it Adult Lunchables? No. No, no. and cracker package but they called it adult lunch
yeah no no i swear to god they called it adult lunchables yeah what is it like oh it was the
one at our portland hotel like they had it listed as adult lunchables and it was just a charcuterie
plate with uh cheese and crackers what a quaint way to describe i know fancy shirt it's more of
an adult lunchable we want to make it accessible.
Right.
But, I mean, that was one of the most profitable products of the 90s.
I can only imagine that Oscar-
What were the margins on that, man?
Oh, my God.
Fuck.
Fuck, bro.
Just fucking trash.
Feed your kids trash.
Feed your kids trash.
Did you ever eat the pizza ones?
No.
Oh, man.
Did you ever eat the Taco Bell ones?
No.
Oh, boy. Was it Taco ones? No. Oh, man. Did you ever eat the Taco Bell ones? No. Oh, boy.
Was it Taco Bell?
Yes, they had Taco Bell
where the meat came
in a fucking packet.
Oh, yeah, I had that.
I had that.
Wait, it had the red meat?
The beef?
It came in a salad dressing packet.
Packet.
You could get nachos,
or no, tacos,
beef taco and shit,
and nachos.
The nachos, yeah.
And then there was like a little salsa.
Let's look at what movies are coming in 2020
that might have a political influence,
political ramification.
Sonic.
Sonic, obviously.
I think people are predicting that Jim Carrey
as Dr. Robotnik is going to swing the election.
Oh, absolutely.
Yes.
You think he's a Bernie bro?
Yeah.
I think he's going to remind a lot of people of Bernie.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's just trying to tear the system down, you know?
Now, this is a thing that our writer, J.M. McNabb, put together just kind of looking forward.
This is something I hadn't remembered. So ahead of the 2012 election,
people were saying that Steven Spielberg held back the release of Lincoln, the Lincoln biography,
because it was too reminiscent of Obama, basically. It like too influenced by obama and like they thought it was going to
swing the election for obama so they held it back until after the election which seems
what fucking times we lived in i know they might be reminded of obama right uh with spiel why why
didn't spielberg want to push swing the hill right well know, I'm sure he's friends with Mitt Romney.
They were probably on vacation
together. When you're so rich, man, there's no
such thing as party. I feel like at a certain point you're like,
yeah, dude, it's the other billionaire. It's the other rich guy.
But I mean, maybe, because I think this is a world
too where people are trying to be decent
and they're like, I don't even want the
seeming impropriety
of putting it out so close to the election.
But like, let's...
Right.
Yeah, hey.
Yeah, it was at a time when people still were naive enough to think that you could have
an objective election that wasn't biased or where one side wasn't using undue influence
to get people to vote one way or another.
Are there any like political porns?
Yeah, Deep Throat.
Well, I guess Deep Throat wasn't a political porn.
No, with Linda Lovelace?
Right.
Watergate was a porn political scandal
because they were using-
No, Watergate's a pee video.
Right, right.
You can check out.
There's also Naylin Palin.
I believe that came out too.
Right.
Wow.
And that was just a woman with glasses.
Woman with glasses with her hair up.
And I believe she, the male performers in the video were dressed like Russian guys.
Cause she was like, I can see Russia from my house.
And then the Russians come through and they're like, let us fuck.
Uh, actually Tina Fey said, I can see Russia from my house.
And everybody imprinted that onto their memory.
Or she said something. Yeah, she worked closely with Russia.
Anyway, the Russia connection.
You can see Russia from some parts of Alaska, which is true.
Yes, that's true.
Yeah.
Everybody needs to leave Sarah Palin alone.
Okay.
She's a great leader.
Sorry.
No, no.
I was just going to keep listing political porns.
But yeah, let's do this one more.
Okay, that's like a trend.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
political porns but yeah let's okay that's like a trend yeah um rush limbaugh saw the dark knight rises uh which features a villain named bane as a slate towards uh mitt romney because of being
capital uh even though bane in that movie attacks the stock market and steals everybody's money and
you know tears down the fabric of society which couldn't be further from Mitt Romney.
And also Bane was created in 1993.
Sure.
That other minor thing.
So we also have –
I just like the idea.
They're taking shots at Mitt Romney because that guy's –
That's pure –
Like Mitt Romney would be lucky to be as cool as Bane is.
I mean those dots Rush Limbaugh is connecting
and a lot of conservative pundits do
when they try and be like
we're victims of this like media thing
would be great like improvisers
like seeing them shits come out and know
they've had podcasting for three decades
like they've had Joe Rogan
they've had their Joe Rogan for three decades
it's just you know people who are professional bullshitters.
But it's like, why don't you guys make good movies
then?
No one is forcing you
to make dog movies.
You have taken on
dog movies as your cause.
You could also be
making Academy Award films,
but you're not cool or good.
So we're gonna to do it.
And then if you don't like it, that's fine.
Go watch your weird fucking dog movies.
Boom.
Now, what dog movie are you speaking about?
Well, I feel like every Jesus movie has a dog in it.
Is that true?
I don't know.
Every Jesus movie?
Because sometimes I think I go see bad.
I go to the theater a lot.
I love it.
As in theater, I mean movie theater.
I'm a fan of the theater.
So I go to the movie theater.
AMC in particular.
And I see a lot of shit.
And so I get a lot of bad previews.
Okay.
And so you'll be watching and you'll get like 30 seconds in and you're like, oh, this is
a Jesus movie.
What's a Jesus movie?
A Kid Falls Through the Ice.
A Dog is Reincarnated. A dog is reincarnated.
A kid
falls through the ice? Yes, Greg
Kinnear is in it.
Greg Kinnear is helping
at a soup kitchen and
is nice to a black man and the black
man is Jesus.
I know what you're talking about.
There is a light.
There might be a cornfield. A dog learns to play basketball. Yeah, okay. I know what you're talking about. This is the, it's a lot of, there is a light. Sure, sure, right.
There might be a cornfield.
A dog learns to play basketball.
Yes.
There could be baseball.
Right.
Yes.
Like, it may sound obscure what I'm naming, but when you see it, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It evokes a, like, you know, reverence to a higher power.
Yeah.
A flag.
Mm-hmm.
Camo. power. Yeah. A flag, camo.
Yes.
So people in the tradition of Steven Spielberg having a vaguely political
movie coming out the year of an election,
people are saying that West Side Story,
which is his movie coming up in 2020,
could end up being that this year.
It's like 60 years old.
Oh,
here comes the musical vote.
A famous story of Puerto Rican immigrants,
even if the original is cartoonishly stereotypical
and full of whitewashing.
That's why Rita Moreno, I think, had notes for him.
Yeah.
And he was like, I will take these on board.
And he was like, okay, fair, fair.
This is, huh, didn't think this might be problematic.
There is a new political satire directed by Jon Stewart that is literally about the election.
Oh, God.
This time it's a small town mayoral election and competing party political consultants.
consultants and hopefully it's not uh hopefully it's more like the voice he used on the daily show and less like his rally to restore sanity at the end of the bush administration which was
the i mean who is there any effect that these films have really no it's just like i don't know
i mean maybe we we we I guess you never know.
You never know.
Some people might see that and be like, you know what?
West Side Story just humanized the Puerto Rican experience for me.
I just don't think conservatives go to these types of movies.
I remember seeing Moonlight two weeks after the 2016 election,
and it was so deeply, deeply affecting to me.
And I was like,
God, I hope these motherfuckers see this movie.
And it's like,
they're not going to see Moonlight.
Right.
There's no way.
They're seeing Doolittle five times.
And it's still bombing.
And it's still bombing.
Again, yeah.
Well, that was actually the next movie
I was going to talk about.
Doolittle, people are saying,
is going to swing the election for,
no, I'm just joking.
There's a movie, a series actually,
called A Higher Loyalty,
based on the book by James Comey.
Jeff Daniels stars as Comey.
Brendan Gleeson stars as Trump.
Brendan Gleeson?
Yeah.
That book just-
He's too good of an actor to do that.
How is Comey getting deals?
Who the fuck is his agent?
I know.
Well, it's because he's like the one conservative who steps out of line and does, quote unquote,
the right thing.
Did he?
Does anyone else remember him costing Hillary the election?
Exactly.
But I'm saying the way they look at it is everything's erased when you speak out against
Trump, apparently.
Right.
It's like, oh, yeah, we'll forget everything,
all the other weird shit you've done.
John Bolton is our hero.
Has anyone told OJ that?
Yeah.
I mean, there's some people looking for a comeback.
OJ's out here.
He's like, I don't agree with President Trump.
Oh, my God.
Hey, Twitter world, yours truly.
I think Trump sucks.
Woo!
Horror movies, also usually good reflections of our current cultural anxieties,
like with the torture porn craze during the invasion of Iraq.
And we've got a few slightly political ones.
First of all, we have a new purge coming,
which the purge that came out in 2016 actually predicted
like there was a debate
between a Republican and Democrat
where they wore the exact same suits
that Trump and Hillary wore
during their first debate
except the movie came out
or was made before the debate.
So it was like they just somehow.
I'm telling you, man.
Zeitgeist.
No, the Purge feels eerily possible.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
We're also getting a Candyman reboot produced by Jordan Peele.
Candyman.
Have you, I recently, like over Halloween,
we went back and watched a bunch of these.
And Candyman is an insane film.
Yes.
I think we were young enough when it came out that it was like,
oh, this is scary.
There is wild shit happening
in that movie.
You were like,
I can't handle this.
It's so crazy.
Mm-hmm.
And there's so many different levels
and layers
and it's very sort of feminist
and also...
Really?
Yeah.
Well, I mean,
it's not feminist
because
Candyman is
also trying to like
sexually assault this woman
but I guess
it being like
he's bad
is at least feminist
right
I don't know if it passes
the Bechdel test
right
I'm gonna guess no
yeah
because Candyman
comes up a lot
and man is in his name
but it's a
disgusting crazy
movie and I can't wait
to see Jordan Peele's version
I do remember it's one of the only horror movies
from that I remember
from my childhood being set in an
urban location
it was usually like
horror movies were usually set out
in the wilderness
or something.
Right.
And apparently,
so this new
Jordan Peele reboot
is going to somehow be,
tackle the themes
of gentrification.
So that should be interesting.
And Disney is releasing
their live action Mulan, which i i think might just be
purely to rattle mike pence who as we've mentioned before i said hate hates he wrote that in uh an
op-ed in my hometown newspaper that's where that mulan opinion came out live action aladdin was
one of the worst movies i've ever seen and I actually found it to
be racist as well.
But the previews for live action Mulan look beautiful and good and Guy Ritchie did not
do it.
So I have hope.
Well, Megan, it's been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist once again.
Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, see you?
I would love for you guys
to listen to The Greatest.
Subscribe,
rate,
and I heart sister.
Yeah.
And my Instagram
is BetterMeganGaley.
Twitter is MeganGaley.
I will be in Washington, D.C.
the last weekend of March
for some shows.
And I'm also one of the co-hosts
on Crooked's
all-female podcast, Hysteria.
So if you want more of my idiotic political takes,
you can go there.
And if you want...
Oh, I posted a really thirsty thought photo today.
So I would say get on my Instagram.
It's me in lingerie sitting on a Nissan Cube.
Nissan Cube. Nissan Cube.
Say less.
You need a little Iowa caucus break.
I was going to save it for my birthday, which is in two weeks.
And then I was like, you know what?
These people have been through enough.
Let's give them a little Iowa caucus meltdown juice.
Breathe.
Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?
Okay.
So I really loved loved and this was
an interview i guess but then they tweeted about it michael bloomberg got a dig on trump that was
so good he was being asked um like do you really think people want to just see you two go back and
forth is the american public really interested in watching two billionaires fight?
And he goes, two billionaires?
Who's the other billionaire?
Oh.
I retweeted it, and I really,
it like, I was like, okay, I'm a Bloomberg bitch, I guess.
It's not.
I'm just here for the pettiness.
I do think as we enter into this chaotic hellscape,
we do have to remember this man does not like when we call him poor.
So let's just call him poor.
Yeah.
And that is fun.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Miles, where can people find you and what's something you've been enjoying?
Well, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey.
And on my other show, 420 Day Fiance,
where we get high and talk about 90 Day Fiance.
Miles, I would love to come on that show.
Oh, do you like the show?
Of course.
Yeah.
I want to go on Anna's Below Deck podcast.
I'm just, I'm literally inbox open.
Okay, fantastic.
Some tweets that I like.
One is actually from a listener Alex Gouletes
who tweeted at me and said
this was in my group text and it made me think of you guys
and it's just a cut out that says
Scott Adams comes bone in chicken wings
yeah
I love that
whatever that is
it spoke to me
to revelation
my two year old daughter watched the Super Bowl halftime show.
She's now a stripper and selling pictures of her feet online.
She's supporting the entire family, and we've never been more proud.
Fantastic.
And then one last one from Onoshi Twinton.
I'm going to be really pissed if after all of this,
Bran is the nominee.
Game of Thrones reference for you there.
Ran is the nominee.
Game of Thrones reference for you there.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Somebody replied to Mayor's Pete.
The skeptic said, not now, not this time.
All this talk of belonging, of bridging divides is too naive, too risky. So tonight I say with a heart filled with gratitude, Iowa, you've proved those skeptics wrong.
And Mass for Shut-ins
tweeted, you're a
PowerPoint presentation that got
one wish and wanted to be a real boy.
And I think that's
about the list description. I am
Indiana's greatest representative.
You are. I really am. Hell yeah.
We should be talking about Mayor May. I would love for you guys
to tweet at me a better Hoosier.
Right.
I can't think of one.
We're batting low.
Yeah.
Is there someone you would actually say, okay, I would cede the floor to this?
David Letterman.
Yeah, he's pretty great.
Okay, so you did have someone in mind.
That's it.
And I do love Babyface.
Oh, Kenneth Edmonds?
And Vivica A.
Let's call him Kenneth Edmonds.
Okay, yes.
He has, he, there's, in Indianapolis, there's an interstate named after him.
There is?
Babyface Highway.
Oh, my God.
And it's not because he contributes to the cleanup of that highway?
I do.
No, no, no.
He did not adopt a highway.
He birthed it.
Wow.
That's beautiful. Gotta love the way she moves that's produced by the
one oh can i oh this is just so funny he was on um real housewives of beverly hills
and lisa vanderp him I mean he just was like
So kind
He was like
No
No
Is he one of the
Real housewives now
No but
Yolanda was married
To David Foster
That piece of shit
Since divorce
He got mad
Because she got a disease
And got her
Breast implants taken out
Now he's married
To Catherine McPhee
Who's basically
His granddaughter
And baby face
And the foster
Are friends That's Catherine McPhee That's the Catherine McPhee, who's basically his granddaughter. And Babyface and the Foster are friends.
That's Catherine McPhee.
We went to high school with her.
That's the Catherine McPhee.
Wow.
Yeah.
That is...
So Bella and Gigi Hadid's mom was married to Catherine McPhee's now husband.
Jesus Christ.
And they met performing together at someone...
At Catherine McPhee's first wedding.
Oh, really?
You'll love to see it, folks.
I don't know why I know that.
You love to see it.
No, everybody, especially like, because in the Valley, we talk a lot about Catherine McPhee.
Wait, wait.
So Catherine McPhee is getting married.
David Foster is there.
Her mom and David Foster meet performing.
No, Catherine McPhee and David Foster met performing at Catherine McPhee's first wedding.
He performed at Catherine McPhee's first wedding. He performed at Catherine McPhee's first wedding.
Yeah.
She left her first husband.
I always had my eye on her.
For the dude who performed at her wedding.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
Big dick energy.
That is.
Big old dick energy.
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I just want to keep this boom-back, neck-crack music going.
This is from Big Ghost Limited, which is basically West Side Gun,
his brother Conway the Machine.
This track's called Fendi Seats.
And if you need that New York flavor from the late 90s, this whole –
It's called Big Ghost Limited, but it's not related to Ghostface?
No, no, no.
It has that grimy, like...
Ooh.
Yeah, it just does something.
Does something to me.
Yeah, again, this is for the old heads out there.
Yeah.
You know, listen to this.
My head couldn't be older.
Get your neck loose.
I am 32.
Right?
Wow.
Changing birthdays.
All right, Billy.
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