The Daily Zeitgeist - It’s The Endgame Of The World, Trump’s Terrifying Anti-Vax Beliefs 4.29.19

Episode Date: April 29, 2019

In episode 380, Jack and special guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian and Private Parts Unknown co-host Courtney Kocak to discuss the Avengers: Endgame box office sales, Kanye West's Sunday S...ervice, Britney Spears coming back home, a possible herpes outbreak at Coachella, a measles outbreak in Los Angeles, Trump having a history of being an anti-vaxxer, a 'we already live in black mirror' update, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Avengers: Endgame2. Kanye West Considering Starting a Church, Says Source: 'He Is Extremely Passionate About His Faith'3. Britney Spears gets her kids back, but concerns remain on several fronts, report says4. Britney Spears checks out of mental health facility, reports say5. Herpes reports skyrocketed around Coachella6. UCLA and Cal State L.A. quarantine hundreds of students and staff in measles outbreak7. Trump on measles vaccination: 'They have to get the shot'8. Trump: Autism linked to child vaccinations9. Donald Trump is rekindling one of his favorite conspiracy theories: Vaccine safety10. Bill Gates: Trump twice asked me the difference between HIV and HPV11. Why data, not privacy, is the real danger12. WATCH: Ama Lou - Not Always Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 80, Episode 1 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. April 29th, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack and Tan O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined by my special guest, co-host, one of the faces on Mount Zeitmore, the hilariousburnt, the queen of the cons and the charlatans, Khaleesi of the bamboozling, breaker of contracts and mother of deception. Well done. Well done. Not bad, I guess. I mean, Jack and Tan was pretty good, so a hard one to follow. But, you know, your accent work was on point.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Thank you. Thank you. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious writer, Courtney Kosak. What, what? Just plain old Courtney. I love it. Just plain old Courtney. It's good to be with you guys. Miles is up again. And, yeah, it's season 80.
Starting point is 00:03:26 We made it. A lot of people said we wouldn't make it past season 72, but we really did it, you guys. Courtney, how you been? What's new? Holy shit. I just got off a plane. I slept on a plane last night. I was in Hawaii for 30 hours for a work trip.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It was good. Damn. Yeah. How was it? What'd you learn about Hawaii that you didn't know going on? I had an amazing Uber driver who like, isn't that your favorite thing when they just give you a free tour? I mean, if you're in the mood for it, it's perfect.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Not so good when you're not in the mood for it. I have a plane to catch in 30 minutes. Is this a tour where he's taking you the long way to get some coins? No, I think she was pretty efficient. She was pointing out all the landmarks for a 30 hour trip. I was very happy
Starting point is 00:04:16 that she did that. Okay, you got your money's worth because she drove you around. And it looked legit like what she was saying was true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Told me some facts about whales. What more can you ask for? She was like, showed you a timeshare Like what she was saying was true. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:04:55 Oh, that's dolphins. Whales don't jump up out the water. Have you not seen the pack life logo or whatever? Some financial company has a whale just jumping through the water. All right, guys. Courtney, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:15 We're going to talk about the fact that Avengers Endgame is a truly global zeitgeist phenomenon. We're going to talk about Kanye West and the church that he may or may not be starting. Britney Spears is back, kind of, maybe. We're going to do an outbreak update, a hopefully not recurring segment where we talk about a
Starting point is 00:05:38 measles outbreak as well as a herpes outbreak. We're going to talk about the president's long history of being a vaccine anti-vaxxer uh and the then we're just going to do a general check-in i'm trying to launch a bunch of recurring segments today guys uh the we already live in black mirror update uh where we talk about the fact that our world is getting creepy as fuck with regards to our relationship to technology.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But first, Courtney, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I recently searched Burning Man 2019. Oh. Okay. With a question mark? Was that? No, I was like, Burning Man 2019, baby.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Take me. I've never been. Have you guys been? You haven't burned? I haven't burned. You got a burner? You gotta burn, dude. No, I have not been. Our fans, Zeitgang, has a Burning Man
Starting point is 00:06:45 contingent that they're trying to get Miles and I to go tweet at me like I wanna I really wanna go for Private Parts Unknown too I want us to go and like interview people because apparently people take their kids it's like wild there
Starting point is 00:07:00 yeah like it's not even just like the drug stuff you would expect it's also just like well it's like it's it's not even just like the drug stuff you would expect it's also just like well it's like they like i had heard about it years and years ago when i was living in new york and they were i think that's when it was a little less mainstream but it was like you go and you like barter with people for stuff and like it's all about keeping the area clean and everything too and drugs also but now i feel like isn't it so commercial now um that's I I've heard it's commercial but I've heard that from people who then go on to describe their experience
Starting point is 00:07:34 like trading a bike for like mescaline and you know like building a a moving sculpture out of Christmas tree lights and an old RV. That doesn't seem very mainstream. No, it doesn't seem mainstream. No, no, no, it doesn't. It sounds pretty cool. I think the mainstreamness of it is that there are now tech billionaires who helicopter in and out, and people are like, that's fucking whack.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And there's people who really treat it like an opportunity to spend a lot of money to have an air-conditioned jet stream RV trailer or whatever. But if they let you stay in it. Yeah. Do whatever you want. Then it's lit. It's fine. So I'm interested. I have not made up my mind on whether I will go.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Probably not 2019. but maybe eventually. I'll bring my kids. I'll be one of those weirdos. I'll be one of those weirdos. And I'll just go like hardcore, like normcore dad with the kids, like f, yeah. Like act like we're at Disney World, just walking around. Touring around with your kids. Oh, that's so funny. That would be awesome. Some really unsafe rides there. Yeah. So what made you interested in Burning Man to begin with?
Starting point is 00:08:58 It's piqued my interest for several years, and I just haven't gone. I haven't done Coachella either, even though it sounds like I should go just for the herpes yeah just for the I mean you go for the music you stay for the herpes okay so you think you know herpes but then but then you go there they have herpes you've never seen before like types of herpes that are just uh yeah no i i've done coachella once and that was plenty for me uh because i'm old but uh yeah i would say i don't know burning man seems to be a little bit more of
Starting point is 00:09:32 a like unique experience whereas coachella is a music festival and there it's just very much that and that is like so commercial and mainstream right yes like without a doubt yes without a doubt i'm trying to do both but i'm trying to be like the whack commercial mainstream person who flies in on the like because i've done coachella like as a regular person i was like i will not go back unless i am constantly being driven around by golf carts i want to i want a porcelain toilet with a bidet i want water shooting up my booty at Coachella I'm not gonna be out here at no I mean that could be arranged but I don't know about the porcelain bidet I want it from a bidet okay okay yeah um yeah I do think that's like Coachella is worth doing if you are there and like connected and like know all the parties like there's all sorts of like private
Starting point is 00:10:24 parties it's it's all the worst parts of capitalism and stuff like that and like know all the parties. Like there's all sorts of like private parties. It's all the worst parts of capitalism and stuff like that. And that's what I want to be involved in. The exclusiveness and the, you know, mining FOMO for corporate profit. Sadly, I love that part of capitalism though. The other day, LA is the worst place for this shit too. I went to the store, pretty little thing
Starting point is 00:10:42 because I kept seeing all the influencers posting about it. Why did I go to this store? Okay, I got out of my Uber. I was Ubering at the time. And I get out and I go to open the door and this bouncer comes up and he goes this store is for Instagram models only. He was like, oh damn, you just got out of your Uber too. It just left.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And then he gave me a coupon for 40% off and sent me on my way wow they wouldn't let me into the store honey they said your money is no good here plebe wow but one day they will invite me that is offensive that is really it was horrible but listen y'all gonna see me hashtag pretty little thing on my instagram i can't wait till you pretty woman woman oh yeah i'm gonna pretty woman pretty little thing i'm gonna come in with all my fashion Nova bags. Big mistake.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Huge. What is pretty little things? This is. It's another one of those high fashion like we rip off outfits and sell them high street online. OK. It's a thought store. There's a billboard like by Capitol Records. OK.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Probably seen it a million times. So, I mean, I'd be able to get in, right? Oh, for sure. Yeah, you tell them about the Daily Psych guys. Right? I want to see Jack modeling for Pretty Little Things. Hey, guys. I was told that this is a cool place to shop.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Use my coat, Jack Tan. Will you hold my child for me? What is something you think is overrated, Courtney? Single-use plastic. I know I'm a little late. Earth Day is over, but it should be Earth Day every day. Right. So that's when you use a plastic thing and just throw it out your window because you're
Starting point is 00:12:18 done with it? Well, here's the deal. Even if you recycle it, it doesn't all get recycled and people throw stupid shit in their recycling bins and like mess it all up. So just throw it in the ocean. No. Okay. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:12:31 No, don't throw it directly at a turtle. Throw it directly at the turtle. Is that what you're saying? Kill the turtle for sure. With the plastic bottle. A hundred percent. Cut the middleman out.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah, no, I have just been like reading stuff and bummed about global warming. I know that this isn't fun, but this is real. We do all parts of the zeitgeist, even the parts where we're destroying the earth and all going to die in 12 years. I just want to issue a challenge to the zeitgang that I did this recently and it was hard, but also I learned a lot of stuff. I did a 30 day zero waste challenge, personal challenge for myself.
Starting point is 00:13:13 You can't poop for 30 days? That sounds really hard. Sorry. Super backed up. Okay. No, I, yeah, I just tried not to, I mean, zero waste, that doesn't exist, right? Right. So I still generated waste, but way less than usual.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And like, normally I wouldn't think twice about like using a plastic, you know, or buying like a Diet Mountain Dew or like drinking a sugar-free red, you know, whatever. Now you're speaking my language. Or were you specifically putting it in terms of Mountain Dew because you were trying to appeal to me? Jack, I also have an issue. Oh, that's right. We've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Okay, cool. So yeah, I just think overrated. We should cut that out. So single-use plastic is... Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it. Just as a culture, don't you think we can... What are some tips? Because when you said, oh, I like Mountain Dew, I was just thinking that you just get it from the soda fountain. Oh, you guys. Yeah, what are some tips? Because when you said, oh, I like Mountain Dew, I was just thinking,
Starting point is 00:14:05 then you just get it from the soda fountain. Oh, you guys. What are you doing? So in my 30 days, I developed a real trash monster routine where I would just go to my, this is bad, but I would go to the Taco Bell by me
Starting point is 00:14:21 and I would take- You would live moss? I'm so embarrassed to admit this. I would take two water bottles, like, you know, reusable water bottles. And I would ask for my Crunchwrap Supreme with beans instead of meat. And I would say, don't give me a bag. Do not give me a bag or any napkins. Just put the beans in my bare hand.
Starting point is 00:14:43 What would you do? Don't wrap up my tacos! Okay. And then I would fill up the bottles and they let you. They not only let me, most of the time they didn't charge me. They would not charge me for the
Starting point is 00:14:57 That is a trash monster. This is not shocking. Taco Bell's consumers they're like, look, we know our clientele. Right, right. That's amazing. they're like, look, we know our clientele. Right, right. That's amazing. Wait, okay, this is crazy. Listen, I didn't use all those bottles that I would have used on those beverages. What was the Crunchwrap Supreme placed on?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah. It just comes in like a little envelope type deal, which I can deal with. But then when they also throw it in the bag and they give you like 50 napkins. Oh, yeah. And then they give you like the big plastic cup, it's like, that's too much. So, and then you have to eat the napkin as well, right? Totally. Doing your zero waste. And then not poop it out because you can't.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Right. And what is something you think is underrated, Courtney? Quick trips, you guys. Okay. I have, most of them I have been for work, I'm going to say, but I have had to take five trips in the last month that have been this 30-hour kind of deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 And it's actually dope. It seems like a not great way to experience the city. Yeah. Maybe you need more time. Right. But really, it's the same as sex. It's like a little quickie will really do you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Real good. That's a lesson all men need to hear. One night in Palm Springs. No, this is for just locals too, right? It's a great sexual metaphor for sex with me. One night in Palm Springs. One night in Palm Springs. No.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I don't even know what that means. It's hot. It's arid. So are you... It's hot and arid. Yeah, exactly. A little tumbleweed. That's how you like your sex, right? That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:32 That's how you like it? Wait, what's wrong? Where are you going? Are you spending the night there, 30 hours? Yeah, usually I spend the night or I wind up spending the night on the plane whatever yeah like Maui was 30 hours I spent one night oh wow um I did a recent uh thing in New York same thing but I got to see people you know yeah every time you can maybe get an uber tour if you're lucky yeah I just did a my first business trip where I took the flight in the morning and flew back in the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It was just like a single meeting trip. And yeah, it was good. It felt efficient. I was like, man, this modern world that we live in. Those are baller. Am I right, guys? Those are baller. I've done a couple of those too.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And I feel like I should have a little briefcase. I'm a real businesswoman now. I've booked a flight in a restaurant because I have a friend in San Francisco. And I a real businesswoman now i've booked a flight like in a restaurant because like i have a friend in san francisco and i was like what you're doing tonight he was like what do you mean i was like i'm coming there's a sandwich up there um i feel like this is we'll probably get called out for the environmental damage that our wanton traveling is doing. But that's for the people in our comments. That's for the people in our comments to worry about.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I fly on group planes. That's better for the environment. I fly on the prop, like biplanes, the ones with the two wings and the propeller up front. I fly like the Wright brothers. Yeah, I have goggles and like a leather hat on and a scarf, always a scarf that's just blowing in the wind behind me. United, legit. They made me watch like a five minute infomercial about how eco-friendly they are. So.
Starting point is 00:18:16 They must be spending their money on something. So, yeah, maybe it is. They're like, look, when you beating up your passengers and you killing their dogs. Yeah. Yeah. But all this traveling also, as we'll find out later in this episode, might be giving us a nice quick case of the measles. But we'll get to that in a moment. Also, what is a myth?
Starting point is 00:18:39 What's something that people think is true you know to be false? Also travel related. Babies are the most annoying people on any given plane okay not true okay sat next to a full grown woman who was just acting crazy shaking like i was like she kept reading this this message over and over so I was like at first I tried to be sensitive I saw something about like I think it was fiction I think she was like reading
Starting point is 00:19:11 I wasn't trying I read a message I definitely read over people's shoulders to be like okay not gonna judge you but I am Jack you're so tall that's not fair just looking down on You're like, okay, not going to judge you, but I am. Jack, you're so tall. That's not fair.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Just looking down on, literally looking down on everything you're reading. So she's having this like anxiety attack, it sounds like. She was so fussy and so annoying. And it was an over, it was a red eye. I was like trying to sleep. And she, and then, and she was encouraging her daughter to act the same way. And she would like, at the same time, she knew what she was doing. So she'd be like, I'm sorry. Just flying sucks, right?
Starting point is 00:19:50 And I'd be like, yeah, but you don't have to act like that. Not that much. Wait, she was encouraging her daughter. She was like, you're not shaking enough. Yeah, her daughter. More fidgeting. She would be like, her daughter would, she traded spots with her daughter. And then her daughter would like bump me or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And then she would make it worse by like loudly yelling at her daughter. But also like getting in and out of the seat a million times. Anyway, I'm just saying things can be worse than babies on planes. Babies are bad like half the time. And when they're bad, they're really, really bad. If they're like having a meltdown the whole flight, nobody's happy.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Put a little Jack Daniels on that pacifier. Do us all a favor. Hey, from your heart to God's ears, sister. Yeah, that's good parenting advice. Give your children alcohol. Just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Just a little taste. This lady could have used some, for sure. That's actually, I should have bought her a drink. Oh, yeah. I should have just been like, shut the hell up. Yeah. Have you ever sat next to somebody who's like, just mainlining like vodka sodas or whatever?
Starting point is 00:20:54 Those are my favorite people. I know. It's just, I respect the hell out of like, really serious drinkers on planes who just like, need to constantly be actively drinking liquor to like get through the flight. A hundred percent. So there was this guy that I spotted on the way. I was like, oh, he's kind of attractive. And then he started drinking all these mini bottles of wine and he was like watching a star is born. And then he passed out right before the ending.
Starting point is 00:21:23 So I went from like thinking he was attractive to thinking he was the biggest dumbass in the world. Also, who drinks and watches A Star is Born? That just feels like the darkest thing you could do. That movie is sad as fuck. I like that somebody with a drinking problem watches it. And then right when it's about to get to the consequence of the guy's drinking problem he passes out so he's just like man that movie was about an awesome alcoholic and how awesome drinking is uh yeah that movie is aggressively sad uh all right guys let's get into one quick story from the zeitgeist. And this is, we've talked about it on like the past three episodes,
Starting point is 00:22:07 but it is a uniquely kind of zeitgeist puncturing event. The Avengers Endgame is like the box office for this is just really, it's an enormous event in France, China, the UK, Korea, like every country around the world france and germany uh it seems seem the weirdest to me that it's like there are german people who are we're like yes we must get the culture the iron man um that's terrible and offensive and i apologize uh but super producer anna hosnier was just in germany and she was talking about how like everyone in berlin is like a super hipster like it's all one
Starting point is 00:22:53 big williamsburg brooklyn uh and it's just funny to me that they're still like yeah but we got to find out what happens in the last avengers movie um yeah, it's looking like it's going to set all sorts of records. I guess it's already set all sorts of records since we're at the end of the weekend. So yeah, everybody, literally everybody saw that movie last weekend. Yeah, I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to see it probably tonight. So I've just been staying off the internet because I don't believe in spoilers. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I'm going to live stream right after I see it just tell everybody what happened um but it's I I feel like I was trying to think of another thing where everyone in different countries is all doing the same thing at the same time and it's like it's almost like a corporate sponsored like christmas or something like it's like a holiday almost where everybody's doing the same thing on the same weekend you just like don't have many instances of that anymore the world cup the world cup i guess is an example. Popular Olympic sports, because not all of them. Right, yeah. I mean, we're not all watching curling at the same time. The Olympics, World Cup, and now Avengers movies.
Starting point is 00:24:11 But fortunately, it's in the hands of the good people at Disney, and they would never do anything shady. Are they into it, Jack? That power. Kind of, yeah. I'll go see it. He's like, those stupid Germans and me. No, I don't think it he's like those stupid Germans and me I don't think it's stupid I just think it's funny that it's like I just think
Starting point is 00:24:30 it's funny to picture Germans and like French cinephiles is it enjoyable because they're dubbing it right like when they're watching it it's getting dubbed right into German so in some cases sometimes it's subtitles sometimes it's just in English
Starting point is 00:24:45 because everybody in other countries can speak two languages. But how do they do it? Like I can't watch a foreign film. Right. I mean, I got to read for two hours. All right.
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Starting point is 00:29:33 But you know, just like the church, it's open to everyone with a verified check. Is he Jesus or what's going on? So, I mean, I think he's Christian and like believes in like all the Christian stuff that Christians believe in. I'm very well versed, as you can tell.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But I do think so now there's rumors that he is thinking about leveraging this whole Sunday service thing into a church. Yeah. So he's talked about starting his own church and like what exactly that would be. Like, I guess it wouldn't be, this is like from a source that it wouldn't be a traditional three hymns and a sermon thing. Instead, it would be a way to point people to Jesus through the arts and through a community of people who love and care for each other and also all wear pastels and Pantone colors. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And buy his $300 merch. If you've seen Wild Wild Country, the Sunday service that they streamed from Coachella definitely had a Rajneesh-y, cult vibe. Oh my God. Because everybody was wearing the same color. It wasn't the red raspberry color from wild wild country but it was this like weird kind of dark muddy purple pink pastel thing um dusty bro dusty dusty rose uh is what it's called obviously um
Starting point is 00:30:57 but i don't know i've always like kanye west is like i i just think there's no limit to what he can achieve. And I think that's not necessarily a good thing. Like Billy Wayne Davis has talked on the show before about how he once like just heard Kanye West speaking in an interview. And the hair on the back of his neck stood up because he was like, oh, that's a cult leader or like an authoritarian like Neo Hitler type. Then he turned around and was like, oh, it's only Kanye West. Thank God. But like maybe this is like Kanye taking it to the next level.
Starting point is 00:31:37 It just seems weird for a guy who calls himself Yeezus to start a church that's not where he's not the God. He's like, it's not the Holy Trinity. It's the Holy four-way thing. We got Kim K as the non- Virgin Mary. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:59 She's exactly the opposite. But, I mean, Kanye can do anything. And also also his music is lit you get a black church choir behind anything honey and his spiritual wow okay um they're mostly singing his music too and it's crazy how much of his music just sounds like church music it was stevie wonder like traditional like hymns and kanye songs and they all sounded amazing together on the, uh,
Starting point is 00:32:26 on the stream. And that's the biggest hook for me about church is like devotion is what we call it in Baptist church. So we go in and we turn up those Jesus tunes slapping, you know? So I would go to Kanye's church and I buy his $300 merch so I can make it into heavy. I'm scared.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Thank you, Jesus. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's heavy i'm scared thank you jesus yeah um yeah but he did go from his first album talking about how like he was gonna rap about jesus even though it wasn't cool to changing his name essentially to becoming jesus and also kanye raps about everything that he does like he'll be like yeah when he get on leave your ass for a while left his black woman for a while but like everything he's done he was rapped about before right But like everything he's done, he's rapped about beforehand. Right. But like in a negative connotation, he's like, these are bad things.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But he's like, okay, I'm doing this. Yes, and now I'm going to do it. Yeah, so I want to join his cult for sure. Yeah. So another huge personality from a little further back in history, Britney Spears, is back. Bitch. Britney bitch. Nailed it.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So there was speculation that she was being held against her will, particularly by some former guests on the Daily Zeitgeist have a podcast about Britney Spears and her Instagram. Barbara Gray was talking about how on her podcast, they kind of go into Britney Spears' Instagram and were seeing weird things that they were interpreting as maybe she was being held against her will. She has a weird legal situation where her parents
Starting point is 00:34:02 or her father is in control of her, I guess, legally. And like, it's usually reserved for people who are like vegetables. Yeah. So it's very strange story. And it kind of broke through into the zeitgeist because Britney Spears felt the need to come out and be like, hey, I'm not being held against my will. For those of you said so, her exact quote was just checking in with all of you who are
Starting point is 00:34:29 concerned about me all as well. My family has been going through a lot of stress and anxiety lately, so I just needed time to deal. And I think we should just take her at her word. 100%. Her sister also spoke up. Her dad is legitimately sick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Yeah. But I don't know if you coming out and saying, I'm not being held against my will. That is not reassuring to me. Yeah. Also, she wasn't like outside or anywhere that didn't look like she wasn't being held. Right. I needed some confirmation that she was free. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 I mean, that statement that I just read was held up on a board and her mouth was taped up. But I think we just need to take her at her will. Yeah. was held up on a board and her mouth was taped up. But I think we just need to take her at her will now. Yeah, so I mean, I think there are like very complicated things going on there with, you know, mental health and all sorts of things that like we should maybe just respect. But leave Britney alone. Yeah. Or if you're a super fan and Barbarabara uh and uh her co-host you know keep keep doing your thing because it's you know they they are super uh like they know more
Starting point is 00:35:36 about the subject than anybody i've ever talked to their their podcast is really interesting people should check it out anyways britney's graham britney's graham is the name of the podcast all right guys let's do an outbreak update first of all i guess let's start off talking about herpes because uh because the measles thing is kind of will transition to our next story so coachella happened two weekends ago and last weekend, not this past weekend. And there was apparently, so there's an app called Herp Alert, which checks the number. Yep. It checks the number of reported.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Who's going on this app? I need to know. Yeah, I need to make sure nobody's got this downloaded on their phone when I talk to them. At first, I was like, this sounds like something you're just pressing a button being like, herpes, and they're like, we've got more reports than ever, or something like that. But it's actually a website where you can send the not safe for work images for clinical evaluation and receive prescription treatment for when you're diagnosed with actually having herpes. And it's like in just a couple hours as opposed to like having to go to the clinic.
Starting point is 00:36:52 So this app says they saw an influx of cases in Coachella Valley, like right around the two weekends where Coachella was happening. Yeah, Indio, California. So they say normally the app dulls out 12 diagnoses per day, but between April 12th and April 21st, spanning the two weekends of Coachella, they counted up to 250 herpes cases per day. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Which is a lot of, that's a lot of herpes that's a lot of herpes catching that usher raymond oh my god was he at coachella this year i don't i was he oh that's a good question no no we can't blame this all on usher um yeah no um i'm gonna stop damn though like i know coachella is like a free love you know but herpes is expensive coachella sponsored by valtrex next year i know they might want to do that go where you want to go yeah what's the ticket like a thousand dollars uh like 500 500 yeah too much too much to pay for you could stay home and get herpes for free y'all 100 it's crazy because you really are with a ton of people it's a perfect place like breeding ground for diseases right yeah we were trying
Starting point is 00:38:21 to figure out if this was even possible to like it that quickly because we don't know an epidemiologist, but we know somebody who's studying to be an epidemiologist. And she was like, I think this scans is like maybe or like this might be fake because it's like a multiple incident transmission disease, STDs generally are. And so you would have to be having just a tremendous amount of sex for that to be happening. But I mean, their methods for diagnosing a spike being herp alert, I don't know what to tell you. It seems like that was actually happening. So and Lacey, you were talking about before we started recording, you were talking about the scam community around Coachella, which I found pretty interesting. Absolutely. Festivals are breeding grounds for scams. And there's it's festival season as the
Starting point is 00:39:22 summer comes. You know what I mean? We're going less we're gonna go out more um and everyone should be aware like when you're at concert venues especially like Coachella one there's a massive amount of people and you're switching you know stages and going and pushing up against each other trying to get like the best view and there are people who literally get tickets for Coachella specifically to rob people so like oh you're drunk and your phone is sitting down next to you in the grass you look over it's gone you're walking through a crowd I was walking through a crowd and there were two girls and they were speaking Spanish which it's America don't ever speak Spanish and think that people don't understand what you're saying so um they were speaking about I thought that was going in a different direction. I know, totally. I thought you were doing the, it's America, speak English.
Starting point is 00:40:08 No, it's America. We speak in several languages, okay? Yes, yes. S-A-P. Empredite aquí. Although probably the safest place to assume that the people around you don't speak multiple languages. Spanish aquí, okay? I mean, you sound fluent.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Is Spanish your first language? It's my second, but i do speak and i think so they were talking about stealing and they rubbed up against me and i felt my bag unzipping and i grabbed it and i started cursing them out of spanish like i was like what the hell but this but you're going by imagine being body to body in crowds like pickpocketers can do that kind of shit like in european countries or wherever just walking past you if you physically are being touched by so many people and you're intoxicated it's so easy to get guys yeah so just like when you go to festivals guys like have those you know fanny packs are great anything that you can put in front of you where you can see and you know like make sure that you're not being robbed also don't sit your shit down everyone goes to concerts
Starting point is 00:41:01 and it's like free love come on now we live We live in America. Yeah. You got to put that fanny pack over your pussy so you don't get herp. That is the lesson, I think. Guys, put those bandanas over your genitals. That's right. Sorry. Yeah, that's what, you know how the people at Coachella are always wearing the bandana like from the nose down. Maybe they were covering up an outbreak.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Oh no. Never know. Leave that on. Anna like from the nose down maybe they were covering up an outbreak oh no never know leave that on um but the other big outbreak that is less fun to talk about is uh there's a measles outbreak that you know we've talked in the past about how it was happening a lot around orthodox communities in New York and Brooklyn and some places like a little further upstate, but now it has arrived in Los Angeles. Yay! And particularly there was somebody with measles at LAX and on UCLA's campus. A measles-infected student went to class in the library,
Starting point is 00:42:00 and they had to quarantine over 100 kids, and they had to quarantine like over a hundred kids. And they're like still 80 of them as of this recording are still being quarantined. So this measles student went to class and the library. Well, if I was at UCLA, I wouldn't have caused shit because I don't go to class and I definitely didn't go to the library. I would have been like, measles ain't made it to my dorm or to this house party. So all the people that they quarantined weren't vaccinated right no so they're they quarantine these students and then the students have to prove they were vaccinated and then they get let out basically and they also yeah it's it's weird but um i truly blame jenny mccarthy for
Starting point is 00:42:42 all of this yeah i mean it is the it is the fact that they've sort of fucked up our herd immunity. And in 2000, it was gone. And now it is back. She is detrimental to the community. Like, really, we need to lock her up. You got to go to jail. Something that I hadn't really thought about since this measles outbreak uh that our writer jm mcnabb was pointing out is that our president is actually
Starting point is 00:43:12 a anti-vaxxer uh if you look at his social media he has been trying to promote a link between autism and vaccines for years he recently came out and said, this is really going around now. They have to get their shots. And that was great. But people were like, oh, thank God. Because he has in the past talked about how Barron, they only give him one shot at a time with months in between. So this is anti-vaxxer light. This is a belief that the vaccines themselves don't cause autism, but getting all the vaccines at once causes autism, which is not true,
Starting point is 00:43:51 but it's like a way for people to be like, look, I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I don't think the vaccines cause autism. It's just all of them at once is too much. These needles are too cruel to these children. And there, so he tweeted in 2012, massive combined inoculations to small children is the cause for big increase in autism.
Starting point is 00:44:14 And in 2014, healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes autism. And changes autism. changes autism and catches autism many such cases exclamation point aren't you so curious what his like theory is is based on like do you think it's eric right well i think it's i went to Coachella and I caught autism. What? Yeah, so I think there's all sorts of... All you have to do to find out what it's based on is just go on Amazon and search autism
Starting point is 00:44:54 because you're going to get all sorts of terrible literature that is not scientific. There's just Google, Amazon. There's all sorts of anti-vaxxer shit. Is there money all sorts of anti-vaxxer shit is there money in being an anti-vaxxer is there like anything to gain no i think it's just the idea of like knowing the truth and being and i think it's also people whose children have autism and they want like an explanation and you know having an explanation feels better than not having an explanation didn't you say bill gates somehow yeah so this is the other thing so
Starting point is 00:45:33 bill gates has had a few quotes about the president that are memorable one that uh he spoke to the president and he twice confused hiv and hpv. But so the reason they were talking about those diseases was because Bill Gates was talking to him about vaccinations. And basically, Bill Gates had heard what Donald Trump was saying, like all this crazy shit about vaccines causing autism. And so he tried to get in front of him to consult with him ahead of his presidency to stop him from doing things. Because Trump said that he was meeting with a chair of a commission on vaccine safety and then said, no, we're not doing anything with vaccines. We're just considering forming a commission on autism.
Starting point is 00:46:22 So it was basically he was admitting there was a commission that was going to try and connect vaccines on autism. So it was basically, he was admitting there was a commission that was going to try and connect vaccines and autism. One of the Kennedys is tied in this, and apparently is the person who's in the presidency here. I think it's Robert Kennedy Jr. is an anti-vaxxer who is big in Washington circles and is the one who's telling the president to like look into the connection. As much misfortune that has fallen upon the Kennedy family in terms of death. You would think they would be doing everything to try to stay alive.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Yeah. But, you know, it's. Shout out to Bill Gates. He took a break from control, alt and delete. Right. To school our president. control, alt, and delete to school our president. Yeah. So he claims the first time he met Trump that Trump knew a, quote, scary amount about Gates' daughter's physical appearance.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Oh, Lord. Of course. He was like, yeah, Melinda was not too crazy about that. But yeah. So I'm assuming Trump was like like your daughter's very beautiful she's just like my daughter yeah yeah they're both so hot i'd love to see him because that's like the ultimate compliment he can think of is like talking about how hot your daughter is um well that's all she's good for hi bill gates i'd love to have sex with your daughter yeah exactly a
Starting point is 00:47:39 lucky man uh that's that's kind of the weirdest part of it and then gates just convinced him that vaccines don't cause autism um but so unsuccessfully it sounds like no so yeah so he's been quiet about it lately uh and you know recently came out and said you have to get the shot the shot so it seems like he might have succeeded and at least telling him to shut the fuck up while he's president do you think bill gates was like how did this fool get my number hey bill it's me i'm sure he never would have been caught dead in a room with him and then he found out that he was president and basically threw his body in front of him and anything he was trying to do yeah he's bill gates is trying to do good doing his best uh all right guys let's take one more quick break and we'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:52:27 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And for this last section, I just wanted to talk about what we're calling. We already live in Black Mirror update the we already live in Black Mirror update because so I've just been hearing a lot of people talk about, you know, anecdotal stuff about people having a thought or having a conversation that they, that their phone then like puts an ad up that is like where that conversation was headed or they have a thought that they don't even say out loud. And then a ad is like put in front of them for the thing. That's even creepier. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Have you, have you had that experience? Yeah. And the ads are normally very shady. I don't appreciate it. I've been getting a lot of ads for this one book that's like, stop getting played by men. Fall in love. And I was like, bitch, how y'all know I'm getting played?
Starting point is 00:53:37 Are they looking at my text messages? Can they see my text? And it's like, girl, he not working late, bitch. He done said that for three weeks in a row. Buy this book. But I haven't said anything about men. Maybe because I downloaded some dating apps, they were like. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Because something happened, but I never said anything. And that ad kept popping up over and over. Yeah. So there was this article in NBC that was talking about it interviewed this guy who in NBC that was talking about it interviewed this guy who his claim to fame is that he invented the eternal scroll
Starting point is 00:54:09 like you know how you used to paginate articles he invented the just constantly scrolling thing and then he realized that by doing that he was basically wasting the equivalent of like 200,000 human lifetimes every day like on the planet because
Starting point is 00:54:27 of like this addictive scrolling thing that he had done but he was pointing out that we worry about privacy uh and like you know people are going to find out our credit card information they're going to find out our uh social security and you don't have to worry about that stuff. So just share it with us. No. I agree with this man. Share with Lacey. Post your information online. But he was saying the thing that we need to be worried about is data
Starting point is 00:54:56 and the stuff that we voluntarily give up. They're just creating this basically digital version of you that is getting more and more detailed and more and more like psychologically accurate, basically with everything that you do online. And it's just the, as recently as 10 years ago, the way people found out what we were watching was by asking them to like
Starting point is 00:55:21 fill out a form, trying to like remember what you watched and when you watched it. Like the Nielsen. Yeah, the Nielsen thing. And now we have smart TVs and they can see like everything. They can see the movie that you hovered over for like a split second. So they know that like you were considering that before you moved on to watching whatever the fuck you watch.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Hey, I don't know you, man. watching whatever the fuck you watch uh hey i don't know you man uh but uh and then our phones are gps enabled tracking devices that can you know listen to what we say uh there's alexa is now you know constantly listening and there's a team of that girl in my house there's a team of like people in and there's a team of engineers in romania are just listening to Alexa recordings to try and learn about what people are searching for. And I don't know specifically how they're choosing who to listen to, but they've specifically said that they've heard people arguing. They've heard a child crying for help. And they're like, what do we do when we hear just and they've also they said they heard a sexual assault and brought it to amazon and
Starting point is 00:56:30 amazon was like amazon's policy is to not interfere in such situations i don't know about that so amazon y'all y'all gonna take our information so that you can make money but you're not gonna help us we can attack yeah and they're just send us shit for free that doesn't seem like a good deal yeah and they're getting so good at like figuring out what our motivations are and what our thoughts are and what our interests are that we're like a lot of people are pointing out that you're essentially giving up your autonomy to corporations because they're able to like predict like your behavior and like your interests and they basically know more about you than you know about yourself yeah and that's like a control thing too um when i was in college
Starting point is 00:57:18 and i was taking marketing classes um the psychology behind advertisement like we were told like if you don't want to be controlled by consumption, never sign up for email lists. Whenever you buy anything in a store, never sign up because you always want to purchase things on your own volition and because you want something, not because it was presented to you. And we used to have mechanisms to be able to avoid unnecessary advertisement that kind of pollutes your brain.
Starting point is 00:57:43 But now if you get on any free app, it's not free. You get on Instagram, you're seeing ads, you get on Facebook, you're seeing ads, you get on the internet, you click on an article, you're seeing ads. And so now you're being sold to and even more specifically to you all the time. And that does influence your brain and influences your purchasing decisions. Do you think if like you had to pay for Gmail or whatever, would you rather pay than have them like have access to all your emails? Yeah, that's another huge data input is they read all your emails. They have access to everything you're emailing, they being Google. And they trade and share and sell information back and forth so that they're all sharing this massive composite of you that's like a little simulation.
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't know. I feel like I, in theory, would rather pay for Gmail than have them have access to everything I'm thinking and emailing about. have access to everything I'm thinking and emailing about. At the same time, like I never pay for apps that are, that cost more than like a dollar 99. And even then not really. Um, so it is, I mean, in that respect though, like it does disadvantage people who, you know, don't have as much money because it's like, well, these are the tools that are just par for the course. It's like how you do things now in the modern world. You have to have email, and if you don't want to pay for it, you have to have Gmail or Yahoo or Hotmail if you're really old. I don't do anything in my email that I'm afraid of people seeing. It's just so much information.
Starting point is 00:59:22 in my email that I'm afraid of people seeing. It's just so much information. Remember when that Sony hack happened? Yes. And that woman, the president of Sony was like using dye on her pubic hair. And like that was one of the things that came out. I did not know that actually. Well, hot piece of information. You know, you need to email that to people.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Right. So what number Clairol should I give for my pubes? Right. CC. I'm just saying there's probably stuff in your email that like you don't even, you don't think it's embarrassing until somebody like puts it on a website and you're like, oh shit, that is crazy embarrassing. I don't think I've ever sent an email without the thought of like would i send this if everybody had access yeah i don't think about it i think oh really oh i think of the email yeah i i also send emails to myself with like crazy notes and thoughts that i have so i send
Starting point is 01:00:18 texts to myself i don't do emails though maybe you should switch it up yeah yeah that's crazy yeah i thought they're just as bad though yeah there's interesting. Maybe you should switch it up. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good idea. Yeah. I thought about it. Texts are just as bad though. I'm sure they are. Yeah. There's nothing to say that they're not. Texts like, no, listen,
Starting point is 01:00:28 text messages, oh, I'm sending everything. Right. Exactly. Yeah. They can definitely get access to those chats. I've never even taken like nudes
Starting point is 01:00:37 because I was like always concerned about things popping up. Yeah. I don't know if it's generational or what, but I've never taken a dick pic. No. People are like, send me a pic. I'll send them a pic for my Instagram
Starting point is 01:00:49 or I'll draw a picture of my boobs and send it to them. Draw a picture? That's cute. I've been in the moment before and sent some stuff that I'm like, oh God, I wish no one ever had that picture. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Yeah, also- They probably got rid of it don't worry about it oh 100 guys are always good about that i got i so i checked my spam folder recently i had a black mare moment um and there was like a ransom for some porn that i i was telling you guys about this before we started but someone had emailed me and they were like we know your password we saw you you were watching porn on this site on this date or whatever and we're gonna send it to the five most frequently emailed people in your contact list if you don't pay fourteen hundred dollars specific and here's the thing
Starting point is 01:01:42 they had my password an old password of mine so i legitimately for a second was like this is real was it a porn site you have been to uh i don't think they listed the oh they didn't say the name they didn't yeah i think they just said like a porn site i think they would have listed it if they probably would have listed it but they had my password that was the creepy part an old password right that's the only reason if it would have been a current password i would have been like immediately changing my password yeah like maybe paying them the 1400 like out on the street purse snatching to get the 1400 yeah because if they got a video from the computer that's not a good angle those aren't good angles
Starting point is 01:02:21 oh god um but they yeah they were i guess uh one of the quotes is i get that it's creepy to imagine that they listen to your conversations like through your smartphones or your smart speakers but isn't it more creepy that they can predict what you're talking about without listening in your basic it's this little model of you you're super predictable to these platforms it's about persuasion and prediction not privacy yeah like just thinking about like they probably know you're hungry 10 seconds before your stomach tells your brain you're hungry and you know it's like they is not a is not a person it's like an algorithmic learning thing so i i used to take solace in that but now i'm like that it doesn't matter they're not like weaponizing this information against you they're just taking over autonomy
Starting point is 01:03:13 they're they're taking away your free will essentially uh and which is way more scary yeah they're so another terrifying hypothetical is health, which if you've ever had like a condition that makes them not want to cover you or less likely to give you life insurance or whatever. They're like, why were you drinking all that Mountain Dew, Jack? Right, exactly. Maybe you brought this on yourself. Why were you on Herp Alert? Exactly. They have your browser history.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Right. exactly they have your browser history so a recent joint venture announced by apple and the insurance giant etna will reward customers who agree to wear an apple watch uh with nudges toward good health practices and the company's promise to safeguard individual privacy but at the same time they're going to know everything right it just gives you every that gives you access to if that heart rate is trash if they don't see you going to the gym you know you can get dropped from your health insurance that's crazy i guess if i got an apple watch for that i had to put it on a baby like a fresh healthy baby uh the, I mean, think about like the, the heart rate could tell them like who you have a crush on or like who, like what, something that makes you nervous when people
Starting point is 01:04:32 bring it up and like, they'll be like, your deepest, darkest secret is about this subject. You know? Are you doing cocaine regularly? Yeah. There's also that. Um, yeah, that, that was from a Black Mirror episode in particular. Yeah, and then there's, so there, like I was mentioning, there's this Amazon office that doesn't have an Amazon sign on the outside.
Starting point is 01:04:55 It's in this crumbling part of a town in Bucharest, top three floors of this Romanian building called global worth. And these Romanian engineers review and listen in on people's most personal moments, like a woman singing badly off key in the shower, screaming for help. And yeah, they,
Starting point is 01:05:19 they basically email each other clips of us being idiots and just to like relieve stress uh so yeah i don't know we're fucked we are fucked somebody people need to legislate this stuff then we don't have to worry about it right i feel like they're better at that in the european union than we are because they're not driven as hard by capitalism as we are. We'll sell anything. I mean, come on, look at the NRA. Right. The NRA has scholarships.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah, they do. In fact, that Parkland shooter had one. Is that true? Yeah, he was a marksman. He was learning how to shoot. Oh, shit. Yeah, but they covered it up and tried to act like it wasn't the case,
Starting point is 01:06:04 but it's not. Right like covered it up and tried to act like it wasn't the case but it's like it's not right we're selling our lives we're all just hoping that we're not next ah america that is the thing with your free gmail is like you are selling your life a little bit right yeah if you're getting something for free you're the product that's the thing we always say here on the daily Zeitgeist. Well, guys, it's been a pleasure having both of you. Courtney, where can people find you and follow you? Check out my podcast, Private Parts Unknown. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I host with Sophia Alexandra, who's been on the show a bunch. She's rad. And we're dropping our Helsinki episodes now, which is dope. Hell yeah. and we're dropping our Helsinki episodes now which is dope hell yeah I'm on the internets at Courtney Kosak K-O-C-A-K can you talk about what is interesting about Helsinki in terms of relationships over there
Starting point is 01:06:56 oh my god Helsinki is so so we're doing like a bunch of parts to this series but soniculture is really dope over there. It's super... Sauna culture. It's wet or dry. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:07:11 You know, like the wet sauna with steam or like... Steam room. They're all steamy, aren't they? I don't know the difference. No, saunas are the dry ones. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Sauna. Sauna. Anyway, they're super feminist. I didn't know what I was going to throw. And it's having an interesting impact on masculinity, right? Yeah. That was like the most interesting thing we found. It's like, yes, they're way more feminist and advanced.
Starting point is 01:07:34 They do not want men paying for their dates over there, anything like that. Oh. But the dudes are like, what the fuck do we do? Yeah. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Sophia actually tweeted last night from the Bikini Kill concert. And she was like, yo, why is every woman at the Bikini Kill show so fuckable and every man is a swamp thing? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And then she tweeted again a follow up and she spelled harem with three R's. Have you guys ever heard that before? Harem with like just all the R's. Have you guys ever heard that before? Harem with just all the R's in a row? Yeah. Uh-uh. Anyway, I had to look that up. Yeah. Is that real? But she wasn't the only one on the internet. It was just bizarre. Anyway, shout out Sophia.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Yeah. Laci. Yes. It's been wonderful having you. Where can people find you? Oh, you can find me on the internets at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I on all platforms. If you haven't listened to my podcast, Scam Goddess, it's on Earwolf Presents. And also, Florida Girls, I have finally a release date for the television show that I'm in. It's going to come out July 10th on Pop, which was formerly the TV Guide channel.
Starting point is 01:08:44 And then it'll be on a streaming platform. I don't have that info yet. As always, if you're in Los Angeles, come see ya, girl. I think you'll see me theater every week. And, you know, send me your social security number so I can verify it. That's so nice of you to volunteer to provide that service. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Ooh, yeah. what I can. Volunteer to provide that service. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Ooh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Here we go. The millennial version of 2.5 kids and a picket fence is six houseplants and no roommate. And I'm currently about to live by myself, so I'm like, ooh, I made it. That's it. Right. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. So Donald Trump tweeted, Welcome to the race, Sleepy Joe.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I only hope you have the intelligence, long in doubt, to wage a successful primary campaign. It will be nasty. You will be dealing with people who truly have some very sick and demented ideas. But if you make it, I will see you at the starting gate. And Mike Drucker tweeted, This genuinely sounds like the start of a very bad D&D game. I was going to say like Hunger Games or something.
Starting point is 01:09:50 That was a very bad Hunger Games. It's like a very bad role playing. And then Megan Gailey tweeted, one year I watched the NFL draft at a bar. There was a man dressed in head to toe Eagles gear. And when the Eagles were on the clock, he picked up an Eagles helmet phone and pretended to make the pick he's my favorite comedian I really like that bit that is a good sports bar
Starting point is 01:10:12 a bit uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Super producer Anna Hosnier.
Starting point is 01:10:36 What song are we going to ride on? This thing on? I am going to recommend a song by this artist who I've really been enjoying recently. Her name is Amalu. And this is another song in the spirit of Lacey getting these ads for these books about men being trash. So this song is all about that. It's called Not Always.
Starting point is 01:11:00 So check it out. It's really good. She's got a great voice. And her future is looking bright just kidding i love her please listen to her and blow her up now that she's gotten a hose knee a bump her future is looking bright yeah all right we're gonna ride out on that we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast and we'll talk to you guys then bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye
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