The Daily Zeitgeist - Jeremy Renner’s Weird Secret Life, Ted Cruz Meets The World 9.26.18

Episode Date: September 26, 2018

In episode 240, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, performer, and You're Making It Worse co-host Eliot Glazer to discuss Jeremy Renner's hobbies, Lil Xan overdosing on Flaming Hot Cheetos, a hundred... year old man receiving Chick-Fil-A for life, Ted Cruz and his wife being heckled out of a restaurant, Trump being laughed out of the United Nations, Bill Cosby's sentencing, Brett Kavanaugh's demand for a fair process, Michael Avenatti stepping in to give his thoughts on Kavanaugh, Instagram's founders leaving cause of Mark Zuckerberg, Little Baby Bum media, and more!FOOTNOTES:1. Jeremy Renner Debuts 'Heaven' with Sam Feldt at Life is Beautiful Festival!2. Lil Xan Says He 'Ate Too Many Hot Cheetos,' Went to the Hospital3. Chick-fil-A awards free food for life to 100-year-old man4. Ted Cruz Heckled Out of D.C. Restaurant: ‘We Believe Survivors!’5. WATCH: Laughter in UN General Assembly as President Trump touts his administration's progress in past 2 years: "Didn't expect that reaction, but that's OK."6. BILL COSBY, BRETT KAVANAUGH ARE VICTIMS OF 'A SEX WAR' IN D.C., SEXUAL PREDATOR'S PUBLICIST SAYS7. Brett Kavanaugh’s Fox News interview transcript, annotated8. Avenatti promises new Kavanaugh accuser to come forward in next 48 hours9. What does Michael Avenatti have on Brett Kavanaugh? What we know so far.10. Did Instagram’s Founders Leave Because Mark Zuckerberg Meddled Too Much?11. Facebook’s recent ‘bear hug’ of Instagram frustrated its independent founders, leading to their exit12. Why Instagram’s founders are resigning: independence from Facebook weakened13. Little Baby Bum has billions of views on YouTube — and just sold for millions14. WATCH: Lil Xan's Dad - I'm Your Dad Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:10 New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 50, Episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist! For Wednesday, September 26, 2018, my name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Woke up this morning, got Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Woke Up This Morning. Got Jack O'Brien. Yeah. Courtesy of Hannah Soltis.
Starting point is 00:02:30 And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Give me the microphone first so I can bust like a bubble. Jacko and Miles Gray together. Now you know you in trouble. Ain't nothing but a zeitgang, baby. Two podcast hosts going crazy. Stuffed media's the label that pays, man. Unfadeable, so please don't try to fade this.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Now, back to the AKA credit for this. Goes to at Johnny Pompeii. Thank you for that one. You know how we do on the West Side. So, yeah, that was all. Did you say Tupac has the hosts going crazy? What was that? What?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Tupac has? Two podcast hosts. Two podcast hosts. Two podcast hosts. We were just talking about Tupac, and I've got Tupac on the brain. Yeah, you do. You know me. Well, we are thrilled to be joined by the very funny writer and performer. You know him from Broad City.
Starting point is 00:03:18 He is also the co-host of the You're Making It Worse podcast. We're thrilled to have Elliot Glazer. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for being here, man. My pleasure. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we're going to tell our listeners the ridiculous shit we're going to be talking about today, such as Lil Xan eating so many hot Cheetos he has to go to the hospital,
Starting point is 00:03:42 Chick-fil-A graciously giving an old man free food for life on his 100th birthday. So that'll be like another couple months. Republicans ventured out of their bubble. Ted Cruz and Heidi went to a restaurant and that didn't go well. The U.N. did not treat the president all that well when he showed up and just started doing his Trump jazz. Bill Cosby, Dr. Cos, got three to ten years and laughed for some reason. He did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:15 He laughed when his sentence was announced. And his spokesperson decided to loop Brett Kavanaugh in. I'm sure Judge Kavanaugh was psyched about that. So we're going to talk about that as well as Brett Kavanaugh's interview on Fox News where he came off as like a virgin robot type thing. Yeah, the virgin robot defense. No way he's a sex crimp. And Avenatti is claiming he's got clients. So we'll talk about that. We're also going to mention the fact that the opioid crisis can be seen as part of a 40-year trend of drug overdose deaths. And Nark Zuckerberg, he's causing problems for his company, again, and not in the ways that ruin our democracy. We're going to talk about Little Baby Bum, which is a media company-ish
Starting point is 00:05:07 that I've just become acquainted with over the past two years having kids. Little Baby Bum? Little Baby Bum, yeah. They make so many videos on YouTube that are very, very popular. You look and you think it says they have 2 million views. They have 2 billion views. Their videos are just insanely popular. You look and you think it says they have 2 million views, they have 2 billion views.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Their videos are just insanely popular. Cool. Yeah, real cool. So we're going to talk about that and other things. But first, Elliot, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, I was recently looking up Jeremy Renner's song. Jeremy Renner, the actor, released a song. I forget what the name is. That's all I searched was Jeremy Renner's song. Jeremy Renner, the actor, released a song. I forget what the name is. That's all I searched was Jeremy Renner's song. I heard about this on another podcast where he as an actor, I guess, also does music now.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I'm just fascinated by him in general. Not as a home flipper, he does music. But as an actor, he does music. But he is a home flipper. Yeah, yeah. I just didn't know which Jeremy Renner jeremy renner exactly and that's why i'm so fascinated by it because it's like which jeremy renner are we going to get and he he created like an edm song and performed it and i saw it on instagram and had to like look it up wow on the web was it good no no no no no you're being so charitable i feel like you want to say this so much more
Starting point is 00:06:24 it's not great. No, it's just, but I think in a large, for me, like from a larger cultural, you know, viewpoint, I want to understand what Jeremy Renner is as a, like, what is a Jeremy Renner? What is this? So good in the town, and yet he seems so strange. So strange. And like, I think when I was doing research, it said he lives with his business partner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Which is like, what? There's an interview with him. I forget which magazine it is, but it is so strange. It's the one where he reveals that he's like all about flipping homes and has made like insane money. But he also talks about- Oh, wait, that wasn't a joke? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Oh, shit. I thought y'all were doing a bit. He is a house flipper. Yeah. That's like his jam. insane money but he also talks about oh wait that wasn't a joke no no no no no oh shit i thought y'all doing a bit he is a house flip yeah that's like his jam and his downtime and he also not writing music he also says like he's never been in a fight but then like yeah sure i like choked somebody out once or twice he also has an app i don't know if it's still active but there's a jeremy renner app uh-huh again just furthering the mystery. Jeremy Renner is a weird dude. Wait, with every layer you're adding, now I'm like, I know what I'm doing after this. I'm going down a Jeremy Renner fucking black hole.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I think that's why it's interesting is because if you weren't to think about him for more than a second, you would never think about Jeremy Renner. He seems like a very benign, action-esque actor. And then when you find out he flips houses, it's like, okay. And then you find out that he lives with his business partner and you're like okay and then he writes music and you're like
Starting point is 00:07:50 why and then edm and you're like just it's a mirage you know i want to i want to peel the onion and see what's at the center the my first inkling i got was uh my mom she votes in the the golden globe so like sometimes she gets like gets Christmas cards from people who are in nominated films. Right. And I think right after The Hurt Locker or something, he sent a Christmas card, and it was him just wearing a fleece jacket standing in front of a clock. Oh, wow. And it was like, Merry Christmas from Jeremy Renner. Oh, brother.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And it was so off. It was like, yo, there's nothing festive about this. No. In front of a clock. His home wasn't decorated. It was like a clock in his home, but like clearly like his interior designer was like, Jeremy,
Starting point is 00:08:31 this is like the sickest gigantic face wall clock you could have. And he's just like wearing fleece. Just like his face. Isn't even smiling. It's right. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:42 It's a very, yeah. Now that I read it, I didn't realize he debuted a song at the Life is Beautiful festival in Vegas over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Right. Also, what is the Life is Beautiful festival? Just a huge music festival. It's like an EDM thing? I think, no, all kinds of artists played. I think,
Starting point is 00:08:58 who played at the very end? I think Arcade Fire. Did Arcade Fire play at the very end? It was Roberto Benigni. Yeah, right, exactly. Roberto Benigni headlining. Yeah, Arcade Fire play at the very end? It was Roberto Benigni. Roberto Benigni headlining. Arcade Fire was the close. It's a big
Starting point is 00:09:10 mix of different artists. This footage of him on stage, I wonder, what is a Jeremy Renner? Who is at the music festival like, yes! Jeremy Renner, yes! What was his app? It was? Jeremy Renner, yes! What was his app?
Starting point is 00:09:25 It was... I guess it was... It was called Jeremy Renner. Yeah. Dude, do you know what the name of the song was? Jeremy Renner? No. Yeah, the split track?
Starting point is 00:09:34 It was Heaven, and then for the parenthetical, Don't Have a Name. Heaven Don't Have a Name. That's right. That's what it was when I looked it up, and it was not good. Yeah. Not good. What is something you think is overrated? up and it was not good yeah what is what is something you think is overrated um i think that i'm as a huge golden girls fan uh i will say that estelle getty is the overrated golden girl
Starting point is 00:09:54 wow yes an unpopular decision by many really sofia sofia yes because um just because she was the oldest no no no i think every she was the how do i put this she was the oldest? No, no, no. I think she was the... How do I put this? She was the easiest laugh. Right, yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. However, that veers into my underrated category, which is Rue McClanahan.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I was going to say, okay, yep. And she was sort of like, oh, she gets sort of written off as like the funny, sassy, sexy one. Right. When in actuality, she, from my opinion, as like a funny sassy sexy one right when in actuality she from my opinion as like a comedian and comedy writer i find watching her to be you know as an obsessive viewer who's watched every every episode an unhealthy amount of times watching her i always feel like i'm getting
Starting point is 00:10:36 new nuances from her yeah stuff that just impresses me you know yeah and estelle getty i mean you know bless her heart but like sometimes a line, even in a final cut of the show that has lasted for decades, still, I'm like, you said it wrong. You said it wrong. How did you say that wrong?
Starting point is 00:10:54 It's so, it's just strange. But of course, you know, I love her and may she rest in peace. But Rue McClanahan really, I think she, Rue McClanahan passed away too, didn't she?
Starting point is 00:11:02 She did pass away. Isn't Betty White's the only living? Betty White is alive and well, I think she- Rue McClanahan passed away too, didn't she? She did pass away, yeah. Isn't Betty White the only living? Betty White is alive and well, I thought. And then they played a clip of her on the Emmys on a radio show I was listening to. Yeah, right. It was a rough, rough, rough, rough go. She'll outlive us all. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:11:16 She will, she will. She'll be here forever. But yeah, so my underrated is Rue, my overrated is Estelle. Rue played, was it Blanche? Blanche Devereaux, yeah. Blanche Devereaux. Yeah. Very rich character.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I remember my first memory, I think as a kid watching Golden Girls, I always remember her being the oldest and I think what you mean, the easiest laugh was I was able to laugh because she's the oldest one. So the little relationships I could pull out from my seven-year-old mind,
Starting point is 00:11:42 I was like, she's like the old one. She's the old one and she says the dirtiest things right has the sassiest lines and it's great but it's like a tiny insult comic and then she was a stop or my mom will stop or my mom will shoot and then I was like wait that's the from golden yeah it's all coming together yeah what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false oh I know that the myth that CrossFit is dangerous is not necessarily untrue but it's a myth that's been perpetuated without understanding that the I used to do CrossFit I don't do that more but people will be like oh did you quit cuz you got you know an injury or something fell off and honestly like I quit the first time because I got a
Starting point is 00:12:22 horrible injury horrible horrible and then when I got the first time because I got a horrible injury. Horrible. Oh, wow. Horrible. And then when I got back into it, it was at a, they call it a box. I'm rolling my eyes, but it's called a box. A CrossFit school is called like a box. I know, I know. But I went to a box where the instructors were like so human and normal and like it wasn't at all culty. And they were really instrumental in putting together a regimen for me that didn't – like nobody at this place ever got injured. And I always respected that and appreciated that because they were – it made me realize that like it really does depend on which – whatever school you go to to do that type of fitness, it's always completely subjective as to who's teaching you.
Starting point is 00:13:04 And who understands that like yeah the human body is like you know has its limits right right and you know the place that i went to i used to go to one in new york and i destroyed my back doing a like a deadlift and the the like instructor was like push through it man push through it you push through the pain baby and i was like okay and then i went to an orthopedist and he was like you have a lower disc injury your arm is fucked like wow my curse yeah yeah yeah yeah it was it was nuts but with that being said you know come on elliot just push through it man yeah hey your back's looking lumpy but it's all good and they use like felled trees and shit For like their workout
Starting point is 00:13:45 Felled? What's a felled tree? Like a Like a tree Like a entire tree trunk Or like I feel like They use tires Tires
Starting point is 00:13:52 And like stuff you Just like find around It's a very utilitarian Right Kind of It's got this sort of like Steampunk-esque Right
Starting point is 00:14:00 Right That is very obnoxious To people who aren't doing it I What is the other slang? I like that you call it a box. Like, yo, which box are you at? Box you training?
Starting point is 00:14:10 Are there other ones? It's the reason people are like, oh, CrossFit. It's funny because I feel like I know people that do it, but I've never heard the real, the slang. And I haven't,
Starting point is 00:14:18 I mean, I always suspected, or I've heard the thing that people get injured, but I just realized that's just because the people who are working there are probably not. That's literally it. Know your limits, though, too. This people get injured, but I just realized that's just because the people who are working there are probably not. That's literally it.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Know your limits, though, too. This is CrossFit, but also listen to your mind. It's no more complicated than that. It's like if you go to a place where the teachers are good and understand limits and don't push you in an unhealthy way, then you're at a great place. If you go to a place where they're like, push through it, man, it's like you've got to get the fuck out of there. So some places you think they just scream at people? Yeah. I mean, it's not really even man. It's like, you gotta get the fuck out of there. Right, right. So some places you think they just scream at people? Yeah, I mean, it's not really even that. It seems like a positive thing still.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yeah, I mean, there's that drill sergeant vibe, but not at the place that I would go. And if the place had that kind of vibe, I would never stand for that. Right, right. I mean, personally, I liked the individuality of that type of fitness, but now I just do like regular gym stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Right. Yeah. Regular gyms. Regular gym stuff. Right. Yeah. Regular gyms. Regular gym stuff. Regular gym stuff. Well, from talking about fitness to maybe the least fit human being in America. Well, we don't know that.
Starting point is 00:15:16 We don't know, but Lil Xan had to be hospitalized because he ate too many hot Cheetos. It burned a hole in his stomach lining is what he told fans. Or, yeah. It burned a hole in his stomach lining is what he told fans. Or, yeah, he said something ripped in my stomach a little bit. I guess it ripped something in my stomach. And he's like, so I puked blood, so we good. Those two sentences rarely go together.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So I puked a little blood, so we good. Yeah. Well, I mean, Lil Xan, Xanarchy, they have to do what they got to do. Is he very young? Yeah, he's like 22 or something, I mean, Lil Xan, Xanarchy, they have to do what they got to do. Is he very young? Yeah, he's like 22 or something, I think. Oh, because I think I saw a picture of him. I mean, I know I sound like a grandpa, but I feel like I saw a picture of him and he looks like a very little baby with tattoos. Yes, he has a child's face.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Oh, that is not... Look what you did to your parents' face. But he's 22 and he looks much younger than that. He doesn't look like he's 22. But hey, you're abusing all those benzos. Right. You're going to look like little shit in about fucking four years. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:13 It's so funny to me, though, with this era of rapper where you're so aggressively, and it's like Lil Opioids is the next thing. Why are we glamorizing Xanax like that? We're like, I'm Lil Xan. But I don't know if he takes them anymore or whatever. I think people are like, he's just Diego. That's what his glamorizing Xanax like that we're like I'm Lil Xan but I don't know if he takes them anymore or whatever I think people are like
Starting point is 00:16:27 that's what his name is from Xanax yeah oh that's that's so that's why it's X-A-N yeah well you know
Starting point is 00:16:33 when you're 19 also don't you don't these I mean don't you get to a point where it's like if you're coming up with a rap name
Starting point is 00:16:40 or an MC name or whatever or even a band name like don't you think about Google and like hashtags and handles and how like Lil Xan could be, you're going to get swept up in all the Lil's.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, exactly. You're like washed away. Or someone thinks it's Little and then they're like, Lil Xan is not coming up. Exactly. Lil Z-A-N. Don't you want something that is so unique that no one will ever, you know, mistype it or not be able to find you? Right. Not this guy.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Not Lil Xan. That's what's brilliant about the ASAP crew is putting that dollar sign in there. Yeah. And then making your A's, V's. Yes. Doing all that. I do love that. Or the U as the V.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The V as the U. Exactly. The Vich. Yeah, yeah. The Vich? The what? The Vruel. Oh, right, yeah. The V as the U. Exactly. Traverches. Yeah, yeah. The Vich. The what? Veruel.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Oh, right, right. Well, yeah, so I've been a fan of Lil Xan since he said Tupac wasn't that good and then completely backtracked on that when he was cornered by what appeared to be like high school students. Well, you can't say that. California is, you know, you can't be talking shit about Tupac when you're like a young kid. I'm not agreeing with his opinion. I just like how transparent he is. But I love that High School Crew is like, what the fuck did you say?
Starting point is 00:17:53 Because these videos are him at a Del Taco addressing a crowd of angry teens. Like, the media misconstrued my words. I think Tupac is a legend. And they're like, that's right. And he's like don't hurt me and then people were uploading videos of them like
Starting point is 00:18:08 pressing him on the street where they're like what you gonna say about Tupac he's like nah I think he's a legend he's like that's right so he's like
Starting point is 00:18:15 the only rapper who like gets bullied out in public yeah well he's not he never claims to be a gangster right so like
Starting point is 00:18:20 that's the other interesting part of this new generation of rappers where it's like I just like to rhyme words and have that like opioid vocal fry all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And then he started a beef with John Daly. Yeah, or maybe John Daly started it. Right. But he's the ultimate troll. So yeah, he clapped back in epic fashion. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to Chick-fil-A and other food-related news.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Chick-fil-A will allow you to live to your 100th birthday, apparently. That's just eating that once a week is all you need to do because a guy named Steven Bellissimo has been making weekly visits to his local Chick-fil-A. Weekly visits to his local Chick-fil-A. And when he came in for his 100th birthday, he was presented with free food for life. Yeah. Which I guess he was already receiving half off. Yeah, before that.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So they were just like, fuck it. Let's just give him 100%. And he's like, now I have a reason to eat here every day. Right. But I don't know. I mean, I get that it's a nice gesture he's a regular customer apparently everyone in the store really likes him but like come on 100 years old like that doesn't feel like if you gave it to like a struggling college kid and we're like look man the very least you can eat our questionably moral like morally questionable
Starting point is 00:19:39 food uh but for old Steve Mr. Steve as they call him I mean I don't maybe he'll live to, this could be the secret to him living to like 103. Yeah. I mean, if this is the rest of his life, hopefully he'll make it to like six weeks. Right. Yeah. And just have a really good time. Well, now he has something to live for though. You guys, that free Chick-fil-A. It'd be really cool if they did that for like, if they donated that amount of food to like an LGBT center.
Starting point is 00:20:04 Right. To, you know to to make up for the fact that they're like president is a homophobic monster right right but that won't happen they're gonna be like well we'll give this old man yeah right hooray that will probably kill him i i'd imagine that eating chick if he actually did start eating more chick-fil-a at his age that would probably accelerate his maybe this was all a ploy maybe they had it like charted out and they were like we're taking a bath on this 50 off thing so if we just go full like free he'll start eating too much of it and that'll be the end and then like when his brain starts to rot they're like we'll just deep fry you yeah right like you're gonna love these brain nuggets i think the real honor though if they could give him one
Starting point is 00:20:44 would be to open that place on Sunday. Oh, gross. That's right. They're closed on Sundays. Ew. He's like, what about Sundays? Oh, God. Fuck off, Steve Bellissimo.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Oh, my God. The Lord works in mysterious ways, guys. Ted Cruz was also eating recently in Washington, D.C. was also eating recently in Washington, D.C. Yesterday, I think, went out with his wife, Heidi, or two days ago, and was greeted by a lot of protesters, a lot of people who don't appreciate them, a Ted Cruz. And I think we have audio of them heckling him. We believe survivors! We believe survivors!
Starting point is 00:21:22 We believe survivors! Beto is way hotter than you, dude. We believe survivors! We believe Survivors! We believe Survivors! Beto is way hotter than you, dude. We believe Survivors! We believe Survivors! Beto is way hotter than you, dude. You know that crushed him probably a little bit. That was that picture of him looking at a photo of Beto O'Rourke on his phone like yesterday. Yeah. Or the day before.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Oh, man. I mean, this is what happens when you're out here giving cavanaugh the craziest underhander questions like i think he asked him something about how he coached his daughter's basketball team like he used his time like other people like were you talking to these people did you ever lie to you and he's like uh do you ever run the three-man weave right is that dated how do you get around the triangle offense? So I don't know. He has mastered the face of like when you're truly just being embarrassed or humiliated of like just putting on this like – The fakest smile. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:12 The most like pleasant, ugly face. Right. Because he just looks like mayonnaise had a face. Yes. And the way he's able to just shut that off and then walk out. And the only time he got a little bit stuck his chest out is when a guy kind of got in his way when he was like him and his wife were trying to leave he's like please get out of my way sir and then went back to his like you know regularly scheduled program but i find that so refreshing i'm like give me a buttoned up republican loser who puts on a quote
Starting point is 00:22:38 brave face right like excuse me like give me that any day over the chaos of Trump. Yeah, then like the chest out haters. Yes. Hate filled maniacs. A Pence of Cheney. Give me that. Yeah. I'll take that. He was literally like the president of the debate society in high school and was like,
Starting point is 00:22:56 I'm an evil nerd. Who, Ted Cruz? Ted Cruz. That was his jam. Didn't his college roommate say like he's a monster or something? Yeah, basically. Nobody has ever liked Ted Cruz. No.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Has known Ted Cruz. But again, as it should be. If politics could return to that, where it was like shitty losers in charge, I will take that any day over the chaos of what's going on now. And people who are actively have an agenda to just tear everything down. Right. It's like, I'll be polite because I know the rules. actively have an agenda to like just tear everything down right it's like i'll be polite because i know the rules but clearly it's funny because he should know that all these top
Starting point is 00:23:28 republicans who have gone out to eat in dc they've most of them have depending on what kind of bullshit they kicked up they're usually met with protesters because they're backing really shitty policies or nominees yeah right and so like i don't in his mind he's really in that bubble where he's like yeah we can go out to eat yeah even. Even though, yeah, I'm just, I'm like one of the most unpopular senators right now, but let's just, let's just have our cake and eat it too. But, but Beto O'Rourke, he tweeted something. He's like, yo, this shouldn't happen. You know, just leave him alone, which is fine. I get it, Beto, but. We get it. You're cool. Yeah, you're cool, but I'm not running for Senate, so I'll boo this fucking man. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:28:10 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. And the President of the United States was at the UN speaking to the UN General Assembly and just kind of blabbed on about all kinds of stuff that he likes to talk about, like North Korea, oil prices, his solution to the migrant crisis. And I think he literally suggested that the other people on the UN General Assembly make their countries great again. He's basically like, why do they want to leave? Make it so they don't want to leave anyway, and then you'll solve the crisis, because it's just that easy. But yeah, that was an
Starting point is 00:28:59 odd couple of moments, that whole speech, And he got laughed at pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah. I think within a minute or two, people were just laughing at him. I think they laughed because he said, we've done the best work of basically any administration in history. Right, right, right. And it's like, he's literally like a fucking Willy Wonka character. Yeah. No. He talks like, what. And it's like, he's literally like a fucking Willy Wonka character. Yeah, no. He talks like, what's that character's name?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Like Prudius or like the little fat guy? Adolphus? Adolphus, yeah. Is that his name? Yeah. Adolphus? That's Trump. Just like being like, look at me.
Starting point is 00:29:38 We did it. And they're like, you idiot. Just chocolate all over his face. He's like, dude, get the fuck out of here. Laughing at him. Laughing. Listen, we have a clip of it. Just so you can kind of it's funny
Starting point is 00:29:45 have you seen the clip like yeah you there's a moment when right after he says it oh yeah he's processing he's like yes oh they hate me right but anyway here let's listen to the whole clip my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country america's America is so true. So true. Didn't expect that reaction, but that's okay. That's amazing. It's kind of, it was the one time I was kind of like,
Starting point is 00:30:20 oh, he showed a human side for a second, where I thought normally he would just be like, yep, and that's what I said. Right. Applause break applause break now moving on but you could tell he was even like all right yeah it kind of took a l on that one wow that didn't go well so you guys read the news huh you guys didn't realize it was an informed audience there's also that part of his personality where like he loves to talk a big game on Twitter and when people aren't around, but like he doesn't like to fire people. He doesn't like to be disliked by people. So if he's faced with people, you know, laughing in his face, which is by the way, his biggest
Starting point is 00:30:56 nightmare, that's like textbook narcissistic personality disorder is your nightmare is people laughing at you. And then if you go through his speeches and just him talking in general, it's like, they're all laughing at us. Don't let them laugh at us. Mexico is laughing at us. Oh, right. And then I think four years ago he tweeted, he's like, the president is a laughing stock. And you're like, wow, you foresaw your own future. He said his country is, people are laughing at our country.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It's like, nah, dude, they're laughing at you. Yeah, now it's him. Yeah. yeah just that moment though you I could kind of tell like I said he's in his bubble and he really thought he could say some shit like that and people just be like you know backyard rally or like a right but he's actually in front of people and you's literally so dumb that he has to fill the dead air by going so true so true while they laugh
Starting point is 00:31:50 okay that didn't go his brain can't even come up with anything slightly more sophisticated so true I wonder if Stephen Miller wrote that and then backstage he goes you burned me Miller I look like a goddamn fool out there. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I was wondering, I was trying to think of the speechwriter writing that and thinking it was like a defiant statement. Yes. And then Trump gets it out there and is just like, yeah, everybody's going to agree with this. This is just a known fact that we're the best in the industry. You're not at a rally. You're at the United Nations.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Right. And you're shitting on the term globalism in front of the United Nations. Right. You think people are going to take you seriously when you say we've done better than any – almost any administration. Then who are you referencing as who's done better than you? George Washington. George Washington. George Washington.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Such an idiot. Right. Such a blithering idiot. All right. Well, you know. The other part, too, was when President Rouhani of Iran was also just taking shots when he went up there. And he's like, oh, this guy's basically talking some Nazi shit now. And he's like, I don't need to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:32:58 He's like, if he wants to negotiate, he's like, all his other friends, China, France, they still want to fuck with us. Because the other countries that are still in the Iran deal, like, no, it's working. And we're not going to let like old President Porcini penis fuck the whole thing up. So Triple P. Porcini cock. Yeah, they're holding steady. And it's sort of like one of these moments where he's like, you know, Rouhani was like, well, and all your friends like me. So what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Just all his worst nightmares. Yeah, I got laughed at. Speaking of laughter, Cosby was sentenced to three to 10 years and laughed, which was a weird, weird response from him. And I don't know. It was a weird scene. They cleared the courtroom so that they could cuff him
Starting point is 00:33:44 and take off his suit jacket. And then his spokesperson came out and basically was like, what's going on in Washington today is part of that sex war that Judge O'Neill, who was Cosby's judge, along with his wife are part of and tied it to Kavanaugh. along with his wife are part of and tied it to Kavanaugh. He also was like, Judge Kavanaugh is getting caught up in this sex war, which I'm sure the Republicans were like, no, we are not on Team Cosby here. Or maybe not. Maybe they were like, yeah, tell him, Cos. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:23 It was the whole thing. I know on CNN someone like a pundit went and just like completely made that comparison and the like people on the right were like how they're gonna let him let this person make this comparison uh which i get that you know if you compare the two what we know sure they're not comparable but i think the point that this person was trying to make was like if you're so so disgusted by sexual predators, why are you withholding that for, you know, someone who's a Supreme Court justice? But then on Fox, it was weird.
Starting point is 00:34:50 When I clicked over to Fox, how they were talking about it, this one guy was like, oh, and he's going to go to one of those jails like you see in the movies. It's a very dangerous place. It's not a nice place with a lot of danger. Like, it was weird like they were like almost celebrating like he might get killed and raped in prison like and look i get that this person like you know he has to do his time justice has to be served but the way they're almost gloating about
Starting point is 00:35:16 it was really bizarre i don't know it fox doesn't seem like they have any racial bias yeah but oh you think that but the way the guy was setting it up was really to walk a viewer through when he's like, it's like one of those ones in movies out of a Hollywood film. Fox News is like, they're just whispering to old people. They're making things so simplistic,
Starting point is 00:35:37 so dumb, and easy to digest. Literally, there's somebody on that show or whatever on that network at the time really need to be like, and the was wee wee scary right for babies they make they make like content for babies with old people steal and kill oh no it is i mean to me it's also nuts that we're coming up on the the anniversary of anita hill's testimony coming up, and we're still at this point where it's like, Cosby gets three years.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I mean, it's like- Three to 10. Three to 10, but even so, just him laughing, that in and of itself is pitiful, and that his spokesman is like, even trying to tie it to Kavanaugh, and that Kavanaugh's standing strong, and people stand by him.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And he said something like, Christ was also persecuted, is what his spokesperson said. I'm like, yeah, very Christ-like to date rape people. He said that this is the most racist and sexist trial in the history of the United States, which might lead one to believe that Bill Cosby's spokesperson cannot be trusted with American history or just rationale.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I don't know. I mean, Cosby allegedly raped people of all different races, including a lesbian. So how sexist could he actually be? How sexist could it be? Also, that spokesperson, is he just committing career suicide up there? You're like, that's probably the last time I was gonna be like, I need that guy. He might be one of those people who has a single employer. It doesn't work for a lot of different people. And so Cosby going away is not good for his career. Because when we tried to look up Andrew Wyatt, we're like, the guy from Mike Snow, the band? It's a different Andrew Wyatt. So I don't know what his background is, but I don't think we'll be seeing much of him. All right. Well, on to Cosby's co-defendant, according to his spokesperson,
Starting point is 00:37:25 Brett Kavanaugh. He went on Fox News last night, along with his wife, to defend his honor. And he had a very specific point that he wanted to make and made it at least 17 times. I think 22, actually. 22. I will give him credit because he didn't come off robotic at all. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Or like he had no time. I don't know. I'll let you decide if it sounds like, if this sounds like a guy who's been drilled. We're not repeating any of these. These are just being played. These are cut together. His uses of this,
Starting point is 00:38:00 this phrase. Uh, yeah, there's no repeats. I am looking for a fair process, a process where I can defend my integrity. All I'm asking for is fairness and that I be heard in this process. All I'm asking for is a fair process where I can be heard. Again, just asking for a fair process where I can be heard and I can defend my integrity. Again, I'm just asking for a fair process where I can be heard and I can defend my integrity.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Again, I'm just asking for a fair process where I can be heard and defend my integrity. Fair process, let me be heard. Fair process and listen to me. I want a fair process where I can defend my integrity. I want to be heard. A fair process. A fair process where I can defend my integrity Process fair process fair process process an opportunity to defend my integrity and have a fair process a fair process So in terms of the process I
Starting point is 00:38:57 Just want a fair process Process where I can be heard defend my I just want an opportunity. Fair process where I can be heard, defend my integrity. Was she trolling you? I just want an opportunity, a fair process where I can defend my integrity. This process, we're looking for a fair process where I can be heard. Yeah, that goes on and on. Yeah, I think he did say it about 17 times, 15 times, whatever the count is. But, you know, luckily, fox news can do whatever the party needs it to do so they're like for the first time ever you have a supreme court nominee going up there and being like hey let me do a quick show real quick to try and like get your trust or something
Starting point is 00:39:36 in a completely organic way and it just like you heard it it's just it sounds like here is the fucking thing you need to say over and over is they just want a fair process and you want to be heard and you want to defend your dignity and that's it and just really let them know that and then we'll we'll get through this other believable things he said was uh when asked about like what he was like in high school and how you know he could have never done this he said i was focused on trying to be number one in my class and being captain of the varsity basketball team, doing service projects and going to church. Aw, so cute. What the fuck? That means he's never done a crime before. No criminals are near churches. No criminals. No sexual criminals are ever near churches. No, no. There's no, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:25 Like, that's what makes it even more eerie to me is that they have completely run out of, like, actual reasonable defenses of him. Everything has just been denial. And then these really bizarre things like, well, I was a virgin. I was a virgin, yeah. So I don't know how sex works or how to even assault someone. Like, what? That has nothing to do with it.
Starting point is 00:40:45 It's just, and you're just seeing it break down more and more. And even with like the doppelganger theory was being thrown around last week. Like, it makes me feel more and more. I'm like, there has to be some really dark shit behind this. Because normally, like you said, you know, we've said before, if you're an innocent person, you would be like, please have the FBI investigate this.
Starting point is 00:41:02 That's the easiest response. If you were right innocent and weren't somebody whose character was deeply flawed in a way that threatens the justice system you know for quote-unquote a lifetime then you would welcome an investigation to your background you wouldn't be on fox news you know pleading a quote due process over and over right i just want a fair process that doesn't involve an investigation into what actually happened. I also love when people say, oh, you know, nobody's perfect. It's like, yeah, nobody's perfect, but somebody who is running to be a Supreme Court justice
Starting point is 00:41:36 should be pretty damn close to it. Or at least not have any criminal allegations against them. Exactly. At the very least. Exactly. You know what I mean? And yeah, again, I think what you're saying too is like, if this person is going to be like one of the physical embodiments of the law in this country.
Starting point is 00:41:51 He should be a pretty good person. Yeah. Or to think like, hey, if I really respect the law, there should be a fair process where a person who is making the allegations can be heard. I can defend myself. Yep, go ahead. We can find some form of truth around this. But when you just go, I was a virgin.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I was never there. I have a calendar that says I didn't party ever in 1982. And it's like none of these things carry weight. Yeah. His insistence that he was like a full Catholic saint as a teenage boy, just it's so unconvincing and it just leaves him open. Like now people are just like looking at his yearbook and being like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:42:30 look at so creepy that it had the name of a woman of a, I guess at that time, a girl from another school just littered throughout their yearbook. Yeah. Right. Alumnus. Disgusting. It's so gross because you think about it and it's like,
Starting point is 00:42:44 you know, you forget all it's like you know you forget all these people you know who are talking about this stuff especially on the news and in politics are adults but you forget that like in high school the walls of your world the the limitations and parameters of your world are pretty small yeah you know like you you don't your world exists not far beyond your family and friends and school. And so in that capacity, like, imagine, I mean, she didn't know about that then, apparently. But even knowing about it now, she's like, someone was saying, I think a friend or somebody from the school was saying, it's like sickening. You have to think like, my name was smeared all across your yearbook because you thought I was a slut or something. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And she signed that letter of like one of the women who was like, I think he's an honorable guy. I stand with Brett. And then they're like, did you know about this? Did you see this? Oh, fuck, that's sickening. Unreal, man. Yeah, because it was, yeah, there was a photo of nine football players
Starting point is 00:43:34 and it was like, Renata alumni, and then on his actual little yearbook entry, it said it. Right, it said alumnios. Yeah, alumnios. Which I never heard that. I do expect my Supreme Court. Isn't it just alumni or alumnus? I don't know. That's whatnus. Yeah, alumnus. Which I do expect my Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Is it just alumni or alumnus? I don't know. That's what I thought. Yeah. I had to Google it because I'm like, this guy can't, this has to be a typo. It also brags about like having sex with women, brags about puking the most at like beach week, drinking kegs of beer, which are all perfectly average things for a privileged prep school kid to do.
Starting point is 00:44:06 But again, stop fucking lying. You're making yourself, you're making it much harder on yourself. Because he even did in that interview, he was like, well, there were parties with beer, but in Maryland, the drinking age was 18 and the seniors had it. Shut up, dude. Shut up. The seniors had it. And were you like, what, the fucking checking IDs?
Starting point is 00:44:23 Like, hey, let me see. No. Does this scan, no just does this scan dude does this scan let me scan this id no it's nuts fuck out of here it's amazing but again it does suggest something about his makeup like how his mind works that he just can't like he has the you know on the clock guy who's just never done anything wrong in his life and is fully inside the lines. And then there's this release valve where he just goes fucking crazy and he writes his friends, he's like,
Starting point is 00:44:52 don't tell anybody what happened this weekend. Not even your wives. Right, exactly. Why do you want to be this? Just exit. Just exit before it blows up in your face because it already has. But I think that's the difference, right? I think someone who had some integrity and was an actual judge would be like, this is too much.
Starting point is 00:45:09 And I respect the law. It's so bad for his family. This is actually shameful what they're doing to this person. And to the women who have to move out of their house. Right. You know, moving out and they have death threats. It's like, what are you thinking? He's just acting like a sort of proper, you know of proper neocon guy who's been in the system.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Like, man, my fucking day will come. Just keep your head down, Brett, and you're going to be fucking Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh by any fucking means necessary. Even if you have to say there's doppelgangers or go to these canned responses on Fox. People were pointing out that if they withdraw him or if he steps down, it will be somewhat deflating for conservatives. Whereas if he gets voted down or if like he, you know, something comes out in this and people, people feel like the conservative cause has been wronged, like that's better for getting people out in the midterms. So it might be a thing where he's just being a good, you know, Republican soldier.
Starting point is 00:46:06 And well, here's the thing, right? You think about so Chuck Grassley said that they're going to vote Friday morning at 930. So after Dr. Ford and Brett Kavanaugh, you know, give their testimony to the Senate on Thursday, the next day they will vote. That's the plan right now, which either means that, you know, their end game is so much about tilting the Supreme Court into the conservative direction that they're willing to just eat this election cycle. And they'll be like, fuck it, man. We'll lose the fucking House, maybe the Senate, but we can at least perma-tilt the Supreme Court for right now. And I'm sure there's all kinds of math being weighed.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Because they're not going to be able to confirm anyone in time after. They're not going to have the power to do so. And you never know. able to confirm anyone in time after they're not going to have the power to do so and that's you never know and if they're willing it seems like they're willing to just do like full fucking burn up upon re-entry into the atmosphere as long as we can just get just stack the supreme court with one more conservative justice right they want to actually start the the sex war right yeah so avenatti says he's got clients with a kavanaugh story to tell we're kind of waiting on him to elaborate i guess on that i mean michael avenatti and i've been saying this he's
Starting point is 00:47:13 either the coolest dude ever or the biggest piece of shit ever right and i don't know which one he is half the time half the time i'm like yeah give trump that work and other times i'm like dude shut the fuck up stop trying to make hashtag Basta work. Stop like his, his like whole self worshiping, like talk. And I just, I'm gonna run for president. It's like,
Starting point is 00:47:31 I'm the antidote to Trump. I'm like not feeling that, but that was the point of no return for me when I was like, Oh, you do not have a good sense of who you are and your role. And yeah, my whole thing is like, just get messy.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Do your part as just being the mess maker in chief. But now, now he's saying that he has clients with other allegations, like their own allegations and people that can corroborate this. to what she witnessed and experienced concerning Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. And ultimately, we're going to let the American people decide who is telling the truth. And then Sunday, Avenatti did a screen grab of an email he sent to Mike Davis, who is the chief counsel for nominations of the Senate Judiciary Committee, and was sort of like, these are questions that you need to be asking Brett Kavanaugh. And if any of these are even remotely near true, I think it's very disturbing. Like he put six questions to this. So these are questions that he says, as a starting point, Senate investigators should pose the following
Starting point is 00:48:34 questions to Judge Kavanaugh without delay and provide the answers to the American people. One, did you ever target one or more women for sex or rape at a house party? Did you ever assist Mark Judge or others in doing so? Two, did you ever attend any house party during which a woman was gang raped or used for sex by multiple men three did you ever witness a line of men outside of a bedroom at any house party where you understood a woman was in the bedroom being raped or taken advantage this goes on and that's where i'm like i don't know if a i don't like that he's like teasing someone's like sexual abuse or their sexual assault story. Like it's a cliffhanger to a fucking reality show.
Starting point is 00:49:08 Right. And like that's where I'm like, dude, what the fuck are you doing? But then also I'm really concerned if this is even remotely true. I don't know what else needs to happen for people like Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins or Jeff Flake to be like, no, I'm out. I'm out. Right. I don't do it anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Jeff Flake to be like, no, I'm out. I'm out. Right. I can't do it anymore. Yeah. And do you think that they think that people will lose interest if they confirm him, that people will stop looking into these stories? Because that's sort of Supreme Court justices, I feel like, the question of will he get on, won't he get on?
Starting point is 00:49:39 Like after that, after they're approved or voted onto the Supreme Court, people sort of- We just grin and bear it. Yeah. We just sort of assume, okay, they're there or voted onto the supreme court people sort of embarrassed yeah we just sort of assume okay they're there now no i feel like the energy is so like on the left they're like fuck this whole thing yeah no this will never stop if he gets yeah if he gets in i feel like and he's gonna be just an investigative journal magnet for the rest of right and if and if they can if democrats can sort of tighten up the margins in the senate and be like hey we have all this evidence we can we're looking at vulnerable republicans now are you ready to maybe look at impeaching this guy or whatever i have a
Starting point is 00:50:15 feeling people won't let up yeah i don't know it's hard to say i mean between like the the surge of women running for office and winning. Right. And, you know, with everything that's happening now, like I hope that people are reactive enough as they are at least and bombastic enough online and in terms of like Twitter and Instagram. And if they're bombastic enough to, you to their words and be as outspoken by actually going out and voting or actually calling senators and making demands and actually doing the active work it takes to make change through group stuff, through group mind. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I mean, it seems impossible now to – I don't know. Who knows? It seems impossible for something like Kavanaugh to make it through. And yet Trump is still the president of the United States who bragged about being an assaulting woman. Right. So I don't know how he's invincible and then everybody else is not. I don't really understand that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:24 It's, yeah, this whole Kavanaugh confirmation process has just really brought out the worst parts. I think it was Republican women in maybe Florida, some tape that was around somewhere. I forget where it even came from, but they were being interviewed. It was like nine, I think, Republican women. Maybe they weren't even all Republican.
Starting point is 00:51:41 They were just like nine, a bunch of women being interviewed about Kavanaugh. And all of them were like, you know what? Like, so he did something – boys will be boys. And they're just like making these rancid excuses. And it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't you have vaginas? Like what's happening?
Starting point is 00:51:59 That's where like the culture war – and I think we said this the other day too is you've seen how hard is like how just how much we're polarized that now people are just so in their corners like i'm gonna look at the version of this that i have to to maintain my team and not it's non-truth yeah yeah yeah and self-delusion yeah i mean we've talked before about how uh during the 2016 election in colorado there was a group of called women for trump that became like sort of women you know support our president we don't care and they formed the day after the access hollywood tape because they were like don't push your morality on us so i think that is an actual part of you know the conversation that probably doesn't get put out there that much as conservative women do
Starting point is 00:52:44 feel like it's very funny they're like how dare you tell us how to think about somebody who brags about sexual assault right right it's like and let and by the way let me tell you what you should do with your the fetus in your body right you know but don't you tell me what to think about donald trump bragging about assaulting women's genitalia. I'll believe what I want to, what I need to. So weird. Everyone's so weird. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah. Well, I just hope, you know, I honestly feel, I don't know if I feel bad, but I wonder what the actual vibe or consensus is among GOP women, like who are actually in the party, like who are in Congress or in the Senate. If they're like, God, like I just want to blow this thing up, or if they're also fully have drank the Kool-Aid to that end. I mean, Susan Collins has shown half what resembles a heart. Lisa Murkowski has also somewhat, but I'm waiting for that moment where you hear them
Starting point is 00:53:39 start to actually exercise a little bit of independence. Or maybe they just know that they have to hold the formation hold to me it all just boils down to empathy versus money and empathy versus greed yeah and it's like and and you know that's a very simplistic way of looking at things but it's like to me that's kind of how i how i see it i see this like blockage of empathy by the you know hyper greed and that Republican fiscal conservatism, which is like, okay, that's fine. But in an era like this, doesn't this movement, how does this not move the needle for you seeing that your country and your co-workers are all being led by somebody who is so corrupt and so rancid and so problematic and troublesome
Starting point is 00:54:28 and toxic and infantile in everything that he does. The list is so long at this point that you have to wonder how they don't want to blow things up. How could you just sit there? How could you just go along with it? I don't know. I'm not in the government. I'm not in that field. But I not in that, you know, that field.
Starting point is 00:54:47 But I certainly don't think I could stand for it. I certainly couldn't look at him every day or hear him every day and see everything trickle down so quickly into the system. But I think Kavanaugh is – getting Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court is sort of the final boss of like – it's the end goal of the whole Trump presidency. The Bowser. is sort of the final boss of like, it's the end goal of the whole Trump presidency. The whole sort of conservative movement for the last like 40 years of being like, how do we just get more conservative justices on there?
Starting point is 00:55:11 But in terms of grinning and bearing it, I think a lot of people just told themselves, well, as long as we get a Kavanaugh type or a Federalist Society stooge. Which is outrageous because then it's like, so then what does offend you? Right. What does offend you people? Because if you're the conservative core
Starting point is 00:55:27 and you're all about morals and values, then what actually pushes you besides getting a judge on a court? A person of color's happiness. Yes. That is offensive. That's pretty much it. I don't want people in the LGBTQ community to have rights. I don't want gay people buying cakes. Yeah. Right. I don't want people of color doing anything. Nope. I don't want gay people buying cakes. Yeah. I don't want people of color doing anything. Nope. I don't want them canvassing. Even if they are running for office, I will call the police on them. Like, which happened to somebody over the weekend.
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Starting point is 00:59:57 I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. And we're back. And the two guys that founded Instagram are leaving the company to just travel the world and be rich. Yeah. I mean, this statement, when I read it, I'm like, damn, it must be nice to be 34 and have like sold a company for a billion dollars. Like what was that, 2010? Yeah. But they said, we're planning on leaving Instagram to explore our curiosity and creativity again. Building new things requires that we step back, understand what inspires us, and match that with what the world needs. That's what we plan to do.
Starting point is 01:00:37 That sounds like partying a bunch or just being like, dude, I'm going to veg out on a fucking island. Or just being like, dude, I'm going to veg out on a fucking island. I'm going to do like blow from the fucking mountains of Bolivia and just be like, dude, what's the fucking next app? What the fuck is it, dude? It's like someone with like fucking Apple Watches or some shit. I don't know, dude. They burn their one good idea. They're just so panicked.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Like, dude, I don't know if we can do the next one but yeah it's interesting because it seems like there's been a lot of exits from the facebook family of like whether it's facebook proper or the other companies that they own and it sounds like a lot of it has to do with mark zuckerberg recently just getting so hands-on and like the meddling has been so much that it's pushed a lot of people out so in recode they were saying that zuckerberg reportedly ordered developers to throttle promotion of instagram within the Facebook app, which dropped referrals by hundreds of thousands of users per week. And they also recently began removing labels, noting whether a photo had come from Instagram, a decision that Systrom, one of the founders of Instagram, voiced his opposition to within the company. So it seems like maybe he was like, you guys are doing better than Facebook. Right. Let's figure out how we can even even the scales again that's interesting and then someone from his inner circle was put in
Starting point is 01:01:49 like a leadership position at instagram too and they're like now you're just putting like your people in the company here so yeah i don't know it seems like instagram was working fine right but i mean who knows what they're i don't have has there been like a reckoning or we found out what the if there was any real troll campaigns on Instagram, on the gram? I don't know. I think it was probably all-encompassing, but Facebook was probably the easiest one to just proliferate all that kind of fake news. I still feel like Instagram, as popular as it is, it still has enough unique tools on the interface where I'm like, how could somebody actually kind of you know, kind of feed
Starting point is 01:02:27 propaganda or something through this app? Cause it's so it's, I mean, for better or worse, it's a very, when you stop and step back and you're like, what the fuck is Instagram? It's like, it is so weird that it's like filtered photos that we're scrolling through and the sort of group mentality of what is now on Instagram where it's like, oh, it's a meme account or it's like an account where it's like, you know, just thirst traps or it's like a fitness account or whatever, you know, inspiration. It's like it's so unique, like the content on Instagram is so unique to the app that it feels like there's no real way to actually trick people outside of, you know, like booty shots or whatever. I think, yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:07 the politically, how, how, how would you be able to infiltrate and actually influence me or somebody else? It's probably through a meme account because I know that that was one thing that you'd see on Facebook where like the really wacky right wing memes or it was like,
Starting point is 01:03:19 what was it? Satan and Donald Trump or Satan and Hillary Clinton arm wrestling for the fate of America Satan and Donald Trump arm wrestling and then Hillary Clinton arm wrestling Jesus and that makes sense on Facebook
Starting point is 01:03:32 because it's become like a graveyard for the elderly right where they're like oh they're like you know they're like un-nowed
Starting point is 01:03:37 just like oh look at the you know I can press this button and it's so easy yeah and Instagram it's still
Starting point is 01:03:44 even my mom I'm like you have to not post screenshots. You can't just screenshot things and then post them. Right, right. And she's like, I don't know. Wait, what does she screenshot? Other things. I'm like, save a photo to your phone, post that, and she'll post a screenshot of something. Of a photo that she took?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yes, yes. And then cut out a head or something by accent. And I'm like, you also don't have to date the photos. Like, what are you? And I'm like, get off of Instagram. August 15th, 2018. I'm like, you don't have to do that. You're doing what the thing does for you.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Yeah, or it's like sort of learned behavior from like being in school at that age. And at the top, I will put my name, the date. Well, I think think it's learned from facebook which is why facebook feels so archaic to me now right i know it's not archaic but i associate it with like old people right yeah well it's definitely the the the fun of it has worn completely oh by far i don't even i can't remember the last time i logged in but i wonder how much of it is just the format of Instagram being hard to game and how much of it is just the user base of Instagram being much more tech savvy. Much savvier, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:51 So you just like can't. Because if you saw some weird right wing meme bullshit, you're like, get this off my fucking feet. Or if you promote it and you're like. In a really simple and almost strange way of saying it. It's like Instagram is almost like too cool for propaganda. Right. It just is. It wouldn't make sense there. Yeah, or at the very least
Starting point is 01:05:12 it's there, but it's for someone who's looking for it. You know what I mean? People who are distinctly looking for Pepe shit. Yeah, so if you're like full Keck army, you're gonna be looking at your right wing Instagram shit. But you're not gonna see pictures of Steve Bannon doing like hot dogs or legs or whatever like it's never gonna happen what is that right hot dog legs or whatever wait what is that when people will take a picture of like their
Starting point is 01:05:35 thighs on the beach oh yeah yeah yeah and they're like is it hot dogs or legs i guess with Bannon, it's like a burrito or my ass. Yeah, but I do wonder how much of it is that Instagram is too cool for propaganda and how much of it is just that your Instagram is too cool for propaganda. Well, I think it's too intentional, right? With what you follow on Instagram, you know what you're following. And the chances of other shit just popping up, it's only going to happen because someone you follow is posting it. Like where on Facebook, there's shit on the sides, on the margins, like news stories that are doing well. So there's a lot of extra information given to you. And an old person already feels like they've conquered the world if they can figure out facebook with all that stuff everywhere
Starting point is 01:06:25 right columns and icons are like well look at what i can i made an event that's interesting dog's birthday because the other big propaganda feeding tube on social media is youtube and youtube is the same thing it's just like fucking things everywhere and you could be thinking like yo i'm watching this video of like justice Souter talking about the end of democracy. And then also in the line like, the end of democracy, Alex Jones. You're like, wait, what the – Okay. I'm curious.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah, I wonder if it is just like the busyness and clickbait titles that make it possible. Yeah, there's less to be distracted on Instagram. And like you said, you know when you're seeing some shit that you're not looking for. Because it'll say like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, it feels very sophisticated in that way. The idea that you can mute somebody is sophisticated. Right. You know, it allows you to feel, I think, actually, or at least for me, like I feel, you know, my personality tethered to it in a way that is not,
Starting point is 01:07:18 I'm not saying it's a good or a bad thing, but it just is. And Facebook, I'm like, what, mom? You know, stop, stop stop you're just writing hello on somebody's page right you know right right aunt Leslie directly your status update is just hello Leslie and then signed yeah love mom yeah I did want to talk real briefly about something weird on YouTube that I'm just kind of learning about. It's this media company, I guess, called Little Baby Bum. They have all these videos that have just like hundreds of millions and sometimes billions of views.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Billions and billions. And they're hours long videos and what they are are just really average to below average computer animations that are illustrating like nursery rhyme songs okay just like end to end and basically i've realized that they're hypnotic for children to just watch it and hear the songs. And you can basically just turn a child off. It's like an off switch on a kid, basically. And you just put them in front of this. Suspended animation.
Starting point is 01:08:36 And then it just will loop over and it'll play for however long you need it to play. And I think this is raising children now. Like I think this is the future, like the way that we have debates over Sesame Street characters. Like this is what our children's brains are gonna be built out of is these like middle of the road,
Starting point is 01:09:01 shitty computer animations that are, like they were made by people who looked on YouTube and were like, oh, these are terrible. The quote from the creators, we thought, why not combine our efforts and have a go? It can't be worse than what's on there already. Like it was just like, it's like a Buzzfeed lists, how they hit like, you know, max capacity. And now this person or this company was like let's do the same thing with shitty animation for babies right and because of youtube and like the way that that model works because they were the first ones there they just overwhelmed the whole
Starting point is 01:09:38 thing and so now it's just full up with all these really mediocre and you know sesame street is made by you know people with masters and phds and like they like pay a lot of attention to brain development and shit like that and this is just made by a married couple yeah this is just made by a married couple who were like oh man we can make a lot of money off this because there's not anything like this on youtube twinkle twinkle little. The 10-hour version. Literally. And you're like, what the fuck? The first video they uploaded was Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star,
Starting point is 01:10:15 and they have one of the 10 or 15 most popular videos on YouTube, and it's just like a 50-minute version of Wheels on the Bus that just plays and plays. Oh, it's not chopped and screwed, it's just slowed down. It's like, wheels on the bus. And it's got like two point something billion views. Wow. It feels like it's, and I don't have any kids, but it feels like it's primed for like the parent who just has the iPad ready to go.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. And I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. I'm just saying it feels like perfectly suited for that type of parenting mode, which is a smart move. Right. And yeah, I have no idea. I'm not going to say this is bad because I'm also not an expert on psychology and child development. But it does seem to be the thing that our toddlers basically are doing instead of Sesame Street and playing with toys is just like staring
Starting point is 01:11:05 into a into a black mirror. It sounds very scary it's like you know Sesame Street I was raised on Sesame Street and it was such an active show right and so like you said so clearly thought out out of time by people who understood psychology and were framing things to look a certain way and the format of the show was almost like SNL in the way that it went from a sketch to a live thing to a you know pre-recorded to a remote to a you know non-sketch thing like the tone was changing and it challenges your young brain to keep up right this feels like a pacifier yeah well it's just sort of like everything like everything's becoming more democratized and anyone can get in on it now. So Instagram's like, oh, I'm actually, I guess with these filters in my phone, I can look, pretend I'm a photographer and be like, these are cool. And now with YouTube, it's like I can fill a space that usually child development experts were in.
Starting point is 01:11:56 And I'm just, this is my asinine idea for kids. I don't know where this is going to go, but hey. going to go but hey i mean it really is dependent upon the idea of like the screen like like how much a screen a kid or a baby could have access to or should have access to and again i have no kids but i feel like i've heard friends who are teachers say something about kids not needing to see a screen for the first year or something two years two years they're now saying two years yeah and which is i mean to me it's like it seems about right yeah it seems about right i don't want to screen for the first year or something two years two years they're now saying two years yeah and which is i mean to me it's like it seems about right yeah it seems about right i don't want to get them started just going like mouth open yeah yeah oh let's get a little more real like from
Starting point is 01:12:35 five months they will if they enter a room and there's a screen on they will find that and just like stare into it right you really have to like work to keep them away because there's screens everywhere. And now I hear my mom's voice. Like when I was a kid and I will watch like an hour of TV, she's like, your brain is rotten. Your brain's rotting.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Yeah. Well look at me now, mom. But yeah, what's funny too, I was just reading an article. I feel like maybe in variety or something about how like now Disney and Netflix are going at each other to basically be the dominant force in child
Starting point is 01:13:05 entertainment right yeah because that's the wave now where they're like man parents are just throwing their kids in front of Netflix on a loop and it's better than YouTube because you're not going to get ads you know what the fuck they're going to get it's not going to suddenly turn into like weird like bondage cartoons with Spider-Man and like Shrek we We can regulate. Yeah. And also if we have a sort of corporate responsibility, we can attempt to make programming that's challenging and active and requires something from the viewer rather than just makes them, like you said, sit slack-jawed and just gaze onto – look at the light. Yeah. And like Disney could – like they're saying Disney could pull the ultimate power move because they're like – Completely. We have all the – I mean we have all the worthwhile kids content.
Starting point is 01:13:47 But Netflix just commands so much of the market. Right. That they're like they're trying to see like I wonder how this is going to play out. Yeah. Disney has a direct to consumer video service that, you know, their own Disney play. Yeah. Disney play that'll launch and could very well just change the game completely. Right. play that'll launch and could very well just change the game completely right there's also a period
Starting point is 01:14:06 between you know one and probably like three where they kids have no sense of quality so like they'll watch this middle of the road shitty animation that somebody made on their home computer instead of a pixar movie because it's just like wait so what but once they hit four they're like uh this ain't Pixar well I mean there must be a reason that Pixar movies are so good and right do so well uh Elliot it's been a pleasure having oh thank you for having me I appreciate it uh where can people find you follow you uh you can listen to my podcast you're making it worse on iTunes uh or anywhere you listen to podcasts and then uh everything else is at elliott glazer and broad city is obviously on tv and also on hulu good
Starting point is 01:14:51 is there a tweet that you've been enjoying yeah joni martenko i think is a producer a famous producer and she posted a a picture of something that i think it was Markowski posted of her. I'm not going to even describe it the right way, but it was her at a potato festival or something autumnal. And she wrote something like, Babe, look, I love potatoes just as much as you, but can you focus on getting the vote? Voting down Kavanaugh?
Starting point is 01:15:21 It was so funny. Babe, I love potatoes too. Babe, I love potatoes.. Babe, I love potatoes too. I'm obviously paraphrasing, but the tone of the tweet was what killed me. Babe, I love potatoes too. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. There are a couple of tweets I like.
Starting point is 01:15:42 One is, oh shit. Okay, this one is from at MP Real or Ky. One is, oh, shit. Okay, this one is from at MP Real or Kyrie Irving, secret black girlfriend. It says, rib condoms don't even taste like ribs. I don't know. I love ribs. So I felt your pain because they don't taste like ribs. I know. And then what else is there?
Starting point is 01:16:01 Oh, yeah, this is from Natasha Rothwell. It says, I feel like we're all in a super shitty escape room with really obvious clues like vote and believe women and don't put children in cages. Those are great. And that is at Natasha Rothwell. I've been enjoying a tweet by C. Joyner, C-E-E-J-O-Y-N-E-R. Ice-T should rap over an instrumental of Beyonce's Lemonade and call the album Arnold Palmer. And you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore
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Starting point is 01:16:46 You can also find that stuff in the information just on whatever app you're listening to this on. Just click into the episode information. Miles, what song are we going to ride out? Well, before I tell you that, I want to remind people I'm on this week's Behind the Bastards. We're talking about Eric Prince.
Starting point is 01:17:05 The first episode is up. I think the second one should be out on Thursday. So, yeah, stay tuned for that. What did I say about advertising? Hey, man, this is what I got to do. Also, check out my new potato salad brand I'm working on. Anyway, so this track we're going to write out on, we were talking about Lil Xan and his epic war with John Daly,
Starting point is 01:17:24 where John Daly had so many teenagers in his mentions, and he was just dispatching them with grace and maturity. But then it got to the point where John Daly, he likes to make a joke song here and there. Obviously, we know about the Peppermint and his Red Hot Chili Peppers crew. Then he made a just, like, SoundCloud mumble rapper track under the alias Lil Xan's Dad.
Starting point is 01:17:44 This is a clapback diss track to him. It's called I'm Your alias Lil Xan's Dad. This is a clapback diss track to him. It's called I'm Your Dad by Lil Xan. So good. It really does sound like SoundCloud rap. Yeah. Alright, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then. Bye. I'm a foreigner, yeah Ice skittles out my pussy, yo
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Starting point is 01:20:05 Do your chores, mop the floors Drink your milk, eat your veggies Do your chores, mop the floors Take your bed, I'm your dad Take off my belt, make you sad Take your bed, I'm your dad Take off my belt, make you sad I'm your dad
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