The Daily Zeitgeist - J.Lo’s Lemonade Moment? The “RACISM DOESN’T EXIST” Hoax 01.19.24
Episode Date: January 19, 2024In episode 1610, Miles and guest co-host Alex Schmidt are joined by host of Black People Love Paramore, Sequoia Holmes, to discuss… Trump’s Blotchy Hand Causes “Syphilis” To Trend, What The F*...ck Is Going On In This Jennifer Lopez Movie? Conservative is so smart he proves that white people actually CAN NOT SEE RACE, “Blue Monday” – The Capitalist Hoax That Continues To Persist and more! Trump’s Blotchy Hand Causes “Syphilis” To Trend Donald Trump's hand sores 'are syphilis', says ex-presidential adviser in wild claim We asked a dermatologist about the mystery marks on Trump's hand. Here's what he said. Trump Wants to "De-bank" your life (clip) What The F*ck Is Going On In This Jennifer Lopez Movie? This Is Me...Now: A Love Story - Official Trailer | Prime Video Conservative is so smart he proves that white people actually CAN NOT SEE RACE Blue Monday 2024: When is Blue Monday and how to beat it? IT’S OFFICIALLY THE MOST DEPRESSING DAY OF THE YEAR: AN EXPERT OFFERS SOME TIPS TO LIFT THE GLOOM ON ‘BLUE MONDAY’ Blue Monday is coming up: Are you prepared for the most depressing day of the year? Blue Monday: a depressing day of pseudoscience and humiliation Blue Monday is nonsense The ‘Blue Monday’ depression peak isn’t real, but seasonal blues are. Here’s what to do Blue Monday is (still) just a PR gimmick, actual science shows Man who coined the term 'Blue Monday' apologises for making January more depressing Online sales on Blue Monday rise 18% as shoppers turn to shopping to cheer themselves up “Blue Monday” is churnalism, beware any journalist who puffs it LISTEN: Magpie by Lava La RueSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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And you're probably asking yourself, well, what is January 19th? But what's wild is there's only one fucking holiday today or national day today.
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Yeah.
Or in a hair straightener.
I just love popcorn.
I'm very excited.
Oh, really?
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Yeah.
Well, let's interrogate that in a little bit.
Well, first of all, let me introduce myself.
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Now here I go again. I dream I'm in Japan. I keep my AirPods on in church. It's THC that's
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Playing with a dragon when I'm playing said dreaming
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yeah yeah yeah
anyway thank you so much
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You know, honestly, it is really wonderful to have these kinds of AKAs.
You guys were listening to what I've been saying about my dreams.
They have come back ever since I stopped smoking weed.
But I'm still, I'm lightly smoking weed.
I'm trying to, again, like I told Jack, I'm trying to find this balance between smoking weed and still having my dreams.
Because getting my dreams back has been such a weird...
I don't know. It's been amazing.
But enough about me.
Let me introduce today's guest co-host.
Someone who you've already heard exclaimed they are a lover of popped corn.
Not only that, they're a fantastic comedy writer, fantastic podcast host.
They won fucking jeopardy okay they
have their own pocket podcast which i've been on i got the pleasure of being on called secretly
incredibly fascinating it is the one and only alex smith buddy thank you and i i didn't prepare
it okay let's just let's just say i was on a skateboard drinking a lot of ocean spray while
you were doing your wonderful song i think that was where i should have been and that's where i
was in my heart.
I mean,
again,
well,
can I just clarify,
you love popcorn when you,
like you audibly went for the popcorn.
What go on?
What is it?
Is it the movie?
Is it the,
is it the microwave?
Is it the popcornopolis?
What are we talking here?
I think it's like only not my favorite food because it's kind of just air,
but otherwise it's pretty much. And I like to make it on the stovetop because then you it's kind of just air. But otherwise, it's pretty much.
And I like to make it on the stovetop because then you can flavor it however you want.
You know, you can do the balance your way.
It's not up to the microwave bag.
I'm sorry.
When you do it on a stovetop, would you put like in a skillet or some shit?
I have a custom, not appliance, but it's like an aluminum pot with a gizmo on it.
It's called a whirly pop.
And so you put all the kernels in it.
And then there's a rotating tool that moves the kernels so that they like keep moving around
and pop. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's fantastic. And then how do you see, like, what's your
seat? Like you put the seasonings in with the kernels? Uh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can
add them later, but there's an amazing specific salt for popcorn called flavor call. It's in like
an orange carton. I am let me tell you i do not talk
about this a lot and i am learning how much i'm into it as i say it i know it's a popcorn culture
this you even have producer victor in the chat he's like what the fuck you are blowing my mind
right now i'm so jealous right now hearing of this okay now i'm interested because i i would
love to like turn up popcorn that's like spicy. You know what I mean?
I love spicy shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know.
I'm just thinking of it right now.
Like a bunch of cayenne pepper or like other kinds of spices.
Anyway, that's for another show called Snacks We Never Thought About, which is coming to
iHeart actually next fall.
So stay tuned for that.
But before we do that, Alex, let's introduce our guest.
Someone who also has a very incredible podcast which is
also uh y'all i mean like we're saying label mates on max fun so exciting new thing yeah we've had
her on before everybody loves having her we love having her she is the host and creator of the
black people love paramore pod please welcome to the microphone sequoia homesmes hello hello i'm so excited to be back
thanks for having me thank you for coming back thank you for coming back all right where are
you at on the popcorn conversation i saw you you were definitely you had movement too so i was like
i was talking with the popcorn i love popcorn i love popcorn so much alex have you tried
trader joe's has a seasonal popcorn that's stuffing flavored it's the best thing i've
ever had in my life. It's wild.
It's so good.
It's so good.
It's only there in the month of November, though.
And it sells out pretty quick.
If they have it next year, I'm buying so many bags.
It's fire.
I'm fucking dead inside from hearing that.
Are you?
It's crazy.
I love stuffing is like one of my is really for me, one of my favorite fucking things.
I love everything.
I love everything. Thanks, Stephen. Don't get get me wrong but i fucking love stuffing same i think
it's the time it's the every the celery the onion they have popcorn that tastes like that it tastes
just like it too like i was shocked and when i went back to trader joe's trying to get it again
they didn't have it but the lady pointed me to the seasoning that they have that they use for
the popcorn and the seasoning is called everything but the leftovers and i think they have it but the lady pointed me to the seasoning that they have that they use for the popcorn and the seasoning is called everything but the leftovers and i think they have that
year-round not positive and it's fire so you've had that one i i have put it on popcorn yeah
there it is there it is so you've had it more or less okay okay so we're learning a lot we're
learning a lot about each other where are you on the you know like the tins of popcorn that you
would get at the mall i love a good tin of
popcorn i'm not mad i'm not a super sweet popcorn girly but i do like when they mix the the like a
white cheddar caramel or something fire my mom is also from chicago and chicago has like this big
thing around oh yeah what's the spot like what's i can't remember the name what's the name do you
know alex producer producer just, you're from Chicago area.
Garrett's.
Garrett's.
Thank you, Justin.
See, we always have proper Chicago representation here.
There's like Nuts on Clark has the bags too.
She can do that.
But Garrett's, yeah, that's the way to get the tub of the three.
Yeah, for sure.
Wait, your mom's from Chicago?
She is.
Is your dad from Chicago?
No, my dad's from Alabama.
Oh, okay.
See, it's interesting because my grandparents came out from Chicago to LA. There's like, there's always, there's always that poll happening. I think it was mostly the second world war that did that for my grandparents, but anyway, Sequoia, we will get to know you and your love of popcorns and other things much better. But first, we've got to tell people, give them a light preview as to what we're going to talk about today.
We're talking about what is going on with Donald Trump's hands.
You were prior on Twitter and everyone's like, he's got syphilis or it's, you know, he's playing too much PlayStation.
We will we will dive into this because I don't think it's syphilis.
But we have James Carville to thank thank for that the raging cajun
uh and former clinton advisor also in just other just very obviously culturally significant news
we must discuss whatever the fuck is going on in this new jennifer lopez movie we must yeah i'm i
saw the trailer i like to think i have good sort of visual comprehension, but I'm not sure if I can adequately describe what this is.
So we will take that journey together and try and figure out using our combined intellectual strength to decode whatever that trailer was.
miles you you saying that i wish you were describing like made in manhattan too or something like just the most normal jennifer lopez movie for real of uh what was it marry me marry me
say yes what was that movie was that was that the movie i think was the yeah i dude i don't know why
i watch every like when j-lo puts something out i fucking watch it i don't know why a lot of people
right yeah yeah a lot of people feel that way about her acting roles yeah i don't know why a lot of people right yeah yeah a lot of people feel that way about her
acting roles yeah i don't know but it's not even i don't know what the thing is i'm like i gotta
respect it i think it's because she was selena and i'm like ever since then i'm like you know
what j-lo i'll i don't know why i'm gonna watch everything even your straight to peacock movie
black people love selena miles oh hell exactly Exactly. And also like West Coast, like West Coast, no matter what.
But especially like for black people on the West Coast, you know what time it is with Selena.
So we got it.
We got a shout out.
Selena.
But then we also talk about this conservative Michael Knowles.
He's so smart that he actually proved that white people are incapable of seeing race. He's figured it out.
He has the proof or he will just very in bad faith, misinterpret a survey and say that's what
it is. But anyway, we'll get to that plenty more. We might even talk about blue Monday, which is
like this thing that happens in the UK. And sometimes we see it over here and what is going
on with that. It just turns out it's a a sales thing but we'll get into that plenty more but first Sequoia B Holmes we must ask you what
is something from your search history okay I recently searched Billie Eilish and Rene Rapp
together in a photo because I have a hard time believing that's not the same person
tell me that's not the same person it is the that's not the same person. It is the same human being.
At a baseline, related.
And it doesn't appear that they are.
They're cousins.
Right.
I'm not getting proof of that.
So, undefined theory.
What do you think?
Is it the head shape?
Because that's where I feel like they've, with their blonde hair,
the way their hair falls and their head face shape,
I'm like, okay, that's, we're in Eilish territory. You know what?
Honestly, it's the whole middle part
of their face. It's really the whole face, but it's
something about the eyes. They both have these kind of like
not dead behind the eyes,
but a little like they've
seen some things behind the eyes.
Yeah. They both have that look.
Yeah. It almost
feels like they're both characters
in a movie where it's twins swapping lives or something, you know?
A parent trap.
I need a parent trap from them.
That would be so good.
Yeah.
She also, like, I would believe if she was related to Pink, too.
Oh, I could definitely see that.
Yeah, yeah, I could see that, too.
That makes sense.
But are we putting another, or should we put the conspiracy theory out there now that they are one and the same?
I do think, until I see them together.
You can't tell me otherwise.
So, OK.
Yeah, I like this.
Again, maybe we just start a podcast about that called How Come Billy and Renee ain't in the same photo ever.
Why not put them together now?
Put me wrong.
Also, oh, I forgot to ask.
I don't.
Were you on since you had Haley from Paramore on your podcast?
I don't know if I've been on.
I don't think you were've been on since then.
I'm not positive.
I was fucking geeking when I saw that shit.
Thanks, guys.
I was like blown the fuck away.
And it sounded like you had such a good time. I just wanted to point that out.
I saw that.
Thank you so much.
I thought it was great.
It gave me excitement in a way
that I don't think I ever have. I was like, yo, fucking Haley's
on the front of the group!
I was so excited to post it.
I was like, ooh.
Were you sitting on that for a minute?
For a minute.
It was very hard.
I don't think I've ever sat on a picture like that.
I hope to one day be like,
oh my god, post this shit. I couldn't think I've ever sat on a picture like that. Like, I hope to one day be like, oh, my God, post this shit.
I couldn't even sleep.
I woke up at like 5 a.m. like posting it.
Yeah, it's going up right now.
You're like for the East Coast, obviously.
For people in the UK.
They are.
Yep, they got it.
People in the GMT Greenwich Mean Time also love Paramore.
So we might as well post it then at that time.
Yeah, they got it too.
What's something that you think is overrated, Sequoia?
Cold Stone Creamery
is the most overrated
ice cream chain among them.
For sure. Go on. What is it about it?
What are we saying here? It's so rich.
Cold Stone is so rich.
The flavor combinations are not
interesting or original.
And it's just kind of gross. It tastes like I'm eating
cheese. And we know I don't like
cheese. I talked about this on the first episode. I don't like cheese and it tastes like i'm eating cheese and we know i don't like cheese i talked about this on the first episode i don't like cheese and it tastes like i'm eating cheese
every time i eat cold stone i like i like that you've come by the anti-cold stone and then with
the even bigger take of anti-cheese that's great like just escalating yeah yeah just the fucking
attack of me like it tastes like cheese I don't want to eat that.
Okay, then what's a superior ice cream for you?
Like you're saying, get that out of the way.
Allow me to introduce you or we should be embracing this place.
I'm a Jenny's ice cream girly.
I think that's in different spots in the U.S., not as pervasive as a Cold Stone.
I also love Haagen-Dazs.
Haagen-Dazs has fallen out of public grace recently.
Or public, I don't know, just public in general. But I like Haagen-Dazs haagen-dazs has fallen out of public grace recently or public i don't know
just public in general yeah but i like haagen-dazs it's great yeah haagen-dazs because like the whole
thing was like it was based on like a fake like the the mirage of it being this fancy ice cream
place but the people were just like what can we name this shit to make people think this shit is
fucking fancy and they said haagen-dazs and they got my ass because yeah i'll stay with a little pint of
haagen-dazs in the freezer it's good yeah jenny's has some good i mean jenny's i feel like they have
nationwide distribution now like yeah oh yeah it isn't like grocery stores and stuff yeah because
whenever i see it i'm like oh shit okay what about you alex yeah alex you got where were you in on
this ice cream debate i i had never thought about my opinion of Cold Stone.
And I think I don't like it that much either because I'm not that into toppings on ice cream.
And the whole process is sort of toppings all over.
I don't really need that many toppings.
The ice cream is so good already.
It's wild.
The ice cream is good, but it's not at Cold Stone.
That's why I have to lean on the toppings.
This is the thing.
I used to work when I worked at this laser tag place back in high school
and college doing like kids birthdays the spot was above a cold stone and so i would go down there
and i would trade like laser tags and shit with like the people that worked at the cold stone
they're like oh let me hook you up i was like please don't i just want i just want this sweet
cream ice cream on its own like that was the only thing
i ate there i did not like they were like oh you're gonna try the apple pie a la mode i'm like
i do not please listen to me when i say you're hooking me up by just giving me a big ass cup
of sweet cream ice cream that's hard yeah that's it yeah that's it yeah it's not so difficult is
it yeah jenny's got it what's the one that I fucking I'm absolutely in love with over there?
Is it Salt and Sal?
Gooey Buttercake.
Gooey Buttercake.
Oh, at Jenny's.
Yes.
The Buttercake one at Jenny's.
Yes.
Their Salty Caramel is my favorite.
It's so good.
It's perfect.
Jenny's.
And we're looking, we're willing to look past the Listeria scare that you had a few years ago.
You know what I mean?
Stop it.
Come sponsor the show.
Stop it.
I remember it full on.
And everyone was like, no, our favorite ice cream place.
I'm like, just eat around it.
Eat around the Listeria.
Enough.
Please.
Wow.
When you said that, I suddenly imagined it being Jenny's fault personally.
I don't know who Jenny is.
Just a character popped into my mind who's like, oopsie-ing something into the ice cream.
That was the story.
One of the Desperate Housewives living on Listeria Lane or wherever the fuck it was.
Was she?
No.
Are you joking?
Okay, thank you.
Wasn't their shit called Wisteria Lane?
Wisteria.
That sounds right.
Wisteria.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, sorry.
That was a bad.
You know what?
I'll see myself out.
I'm doing Desperate Housewives references in the year of our Lord 2024.
No, it's fine.
It's worse because I fell for it.
Sequoia, what is something you think is underrated?
We're going to stick with the ice cream theme here.
Oh, okay.
Perfect.
Or frozen yogurt in general.
A simple tart flavored frozen yogurt or a plain vanilla ice cream is so superior. And if you have those done well,
you don't need all the bells and whistles that everybody's doing right now.
Yep.
Who's your,
what's your,
who's your favorite tart,
frozen yogurt or ice cream?
You know,
I'm pretty indifferent.
I can get it from yogurt land.
I could do tutti frutti.
I could do pink berry.
I could do pretty much anything with a tart frozen yogurt.
I haven't seen that messed up
yeah it's good because it's got that little yogurty bite to it just a little a little pucker
yeah it's good it reminds me like when i could like my mom wouldn't buy me like snack pack
or like chocolate pudding at the store she's like you should be in yogurt and i'm like there's no
fucking sugar in here but i'll but like that's all i could get down on so once i remember when
pinkberry came out i was like like, again, I'll just eat
this. No toppings.
If you put regular
yogurt in the freezer, is it frozen yogurt
or is there something special about frozen
yogurt? Is it not just frozen yogurt?
I don't know. I don't know how they make it.
I'm realizing this.
This is an experiment.
This is probably good.
Alex, are you a topping guy? Are you simple pleasures guy because i know obviously you don't like your popcorn simple
do you like your yogurt right i think i i'm very excited that i'm finding all three of us are so
on the team of simple dessert and like make dessert just one thing when you're having dessert
just do it well yeah like i even the how. Winter always reminds me that I don't like
eggnog very much because I don't
need dessert to also be alcohol.
I can just have dessert.
Oh, alright. The team's breaking up.
I never say you gotta have alcohol in it, but the flavor
fucking goes. I don't even put alcohol in mine.
Yeah, the flavor goes.
I will fucking eat the ice cream.
Oh, we were doing so fucking well, man.
This is, I jinxed it.
Before this, Alex.
This year, or this past year,
I found a ice cream sandwich
that had eggnog in the middle.
It was an eggnog ice cream sandwich.
Was this also Trader Joe's?
That sounds pretty good.
Where was that at?
It was at like Ralph's or Vaughn's,
one of those main grocery store chains.
It was the Signature Selects brand, like the grocery store chain brand.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sometimes they don't miss.
They understand our simple palates that we're little babies who just want to drink eggnog and have yogurt all day.
All right.
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And I'm sure some of you have probably heard of this or luckily, maybe some of you have are doing the good thing and not spending a lot of time on social media.
But there is a picture of Donald Trump that was really just doing the rounds on the Internet
on Thursday or on Wednesday, going into Thursday as well, where he was leaving the courtroom
where he was absolutely having a fit.
We'll probably touch on that next week.
And was just giving just a wave to the supporters and the reporters.
And someone took a photo of this.
And on his right hand, not unlike a 14-year-old's yearbook photo, it was covered in red splotches.
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what are we doing here? And it all basically, it seems like it all comes from an unverified claim
made by James Carville, the raging Cajun who loved to just talk a lot of smoke about Donald Trump.
And on his live cast show, he said this about the photo.
He said, they don't look like cuts to me.
They look like sores.
And I've asked a number of MDs what medical condition manifests itself through hand sores.
And the answer is immediate and
unanimous secondary syphilis i'm sorry i said what's the secondary syphilis he also said
maybe the picture was doctored or whatever maybe the story will go somewhere maybe it won't it's
like okay sir first of all you can't just i know you want to just be saying this shit but this is
not journalism at all maybe it was doctored or whatever.
And maybe it'll go somewhere that I'm saying out loud that this is syphilis.
Whatever.
It's my podcast.
Yeah.
You mean he's not going to get the Pulitzer for guessing about hands?
He's not going to get that award that they always give every year?
Oh, and I'm just, I don't, what is secondary syphilis?
I would imagine my theory on what secondary syphilis is, is you have syphilis, right?
And that manifests, you know, where syphilis usually manifests, I'd imagine somewhere on your junk.
And then if you're Donald Trump and you tug it often, where does it go?
Your hand.
Oh, okay.
So that's what, that's my theory.
Yeah.
What syphilis?
There's just, there's too much going on.
And that was so specific. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's just, there's too much going on. And that was so specific.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a generalized infection.
It's characterized by systemic symptoms.
Okay.
Whatever.
All that to say is when I look at that, I'm like, as much as I want to be like, yeah, man, Carville fucking nailed it.
This dude has syphilis and it's on his hand.
That's like, that's where everything goes.
But like everything, like so many people like started talking about this, that like other
like news outlets were like based on this syphilis claim, like they were reaching out
to dermatologists to be like, what is it like?
What could be going on?
And most people said like, it's probably a rash caused by like over washing, which makes
sense.
We know Trump is like a germaphobe.
I honestly think it's from golfing.
That looks like where it is like on your hand.
That's from just swinging a golf club all the time.
Like that looks like a friction injury is again,
look,
I'm not here to defend Donald Trump and his hands and whatever the fuck,
but it's just like the people who are getting so giddy about the simplest thing is just a little too much for me like be real he's playing so much fucking golf
and he sucks he's probably his techniques probably all fucked up that he's got a lot of blisties
okay yeah and i i think a lot of people are giving like this sort of clap theory a lot more weight
mostly because of trump's love of not ever making sense when he's
speaking out loud. And they're like, look, got to his brains, man. And people claim it's like it's
it's his it's his mental deterioration due to the syphilis. It could also be because he's old and
highly inarticulate. But here, a lot of people are saying like, because recently he said this,
I'm just going to play this clip where he started talking about banks, but then it became about something else.
I try and follow along with whatever Donald Trump was saying here in New Hampshire.
But we're also going to play strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your, you know, your political beliefs, what they do.
They want to debank you and we're
going to debank think of this they want to take away your rights they want to take away your
country the things you're doing all electric cars give me a break if you want an electric car but
they don't go far they're very expensive they're going to be made they're like boom syphilis did
someone i feel like someone taught him the word debunk and then he's just messing it up.
Oh, is that what he's trying to say?
Debank?
Okay.
I don't know.
Or he's starting off, right?
He said he wants to play strong protections.
I think this is a culture war thing to stop banks and regulators from debanking you because that's like financially deplat like hate sites or people who are involved in
hate speech you see where they're like oh okay this bank will no longer bank with me or i can't
sell my like kkk fucking like t-shirts with this they don't want to do any of my consumer like
transactional banking i think that's what he meant because that's what's like to debank you from your
political that's they want to and we're gonna debank think of this they're
taking away your country it's like that's where we always end up yeah i mean i think that's where
it's like and then maybe reflexively just went into like just you know doing the rah rah like
let's get all angry about uh the fact that america is a diverse place it felt but then electric car
then he did electric cars.
He hit us with electric cars.
That's where I really got lost.
I don't understand.
How do we get here?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If his flow is caused by syphilis,
he's had syphilis for his entire life.
Yeah.
Just seeing it on his hands.
Right.
Yeah.
We've,
we've always just called it Trump jazz.
That's just what he does.
Right.
It's like,
you think it's like, and then he just changes up to something else.
And now he's just like playing in a completely different key.
And you've got to follow along with all the changes.
But yeah, you know, James Carville, as much as I like to say that, you know,
I like that Donald Trump is lower than snake nipples.
Maybe there's a different explanation here for his blisters,
which it might look like, but who knows?
I feel like it's such a media literacy thing.
Broadly, people just need to know that if a story sounds way, way too exciting and good to you,
that's the story you check the most.
If you're thrilled about Donald Trump suddenly having weird public syphilis, it it's probably it's probably too much of a treat we're back to talking about dessert
you know what i mean like okay okay new flavor from jenny's secondary siffy
with with i'm not i'm not even wouldn't even describe yeah i wouldn't even describe that but
we get it and like it's true alex like I think a lot of people, like with anything,
when your confirmation bias is set to a certain direction
or a certain flow of things, narratively speaking,
all you need is something that sort of begins to intersect with that.
To be like, yeah, dude, he's got syphilis all over his hands, man.
He's losing his mind.
It's like, relax.
I know you don't want him to be president,
but let's maybe focus on other things that might feel more substantive than just being like, it's the sy i know you don't want him to be president but like let's maybe focus on other
things that might feel more substantive than just being like it's the same my last yeah well let's
focus our energy on something truly confounding more than donald trump's hand source the trailer The trailer for Jennifer Lopez's new Amazon Prime movie just hit the internet.
And, huh?
Was my first reaction.
It's called This Is Me Now, a love story.
And it's also the name of her new album, which also comes out the same day.
So are we doing a lemonade type thing here,-lo is that what this is now i'm that's
i'm look i have to i have to i'm just i'm looking at the pieces and i'm trying to put the information
together to try and make sense of this or is this a musical that's what it is is it a feature-length
gucci ad because that's what i also suspect i'm
wondering how much money gucci put in on this because there is so much gucci in that trailer
i was like okay like we get it like you either you're sponsored by gucci or they're sponsoring
this whole thing but nobody seems to be sure one person on twitter said that the plot was seemingly
about quote a sex addict who works in a nuclear post-apocalyptic factory which kind of
tracks visual visually like where are we what's happening what do we like the open this like the
trailer opens says with a credit that says the movie is from the heart soul and dreams of jennifer
it's like from the heart soul and dreams of jenn. I'm like, okay. Okay. Go on. Like, what is this about?
It seems very dark.
But then it plays like a, like a rom-com or something where, but they say she's a sex addict and she's getting married too much.
And I don't know.
What, what, what do you think?
What is going on here?
Or what were the most confusing parts for you guys watching this whole thing?
I mean, the genre is the most confusing part.
Like, I don't even know.
I don't know if this is scripted.
I'm positive that it's scripted, but like, it's not super clear immediately.
I don't know if it's a musical.
I don't know if it's feature length.
I literally don't know anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Alex, you're smarter than most people.
What is this about?
got that vibe from the trailer maybe it's kind of a the city is a character kind of thing like it's just in the background of the film i don't i really don't understand that that big title of
from the dreams of jennifer lopez i feel like somebody at least kind of knows this is out of
control yeah like that's it on it and maybe j-lo maybe j-lo stopped smoking weed and her dreams
got so wild she's like y'all i figured out out my lemonade. So everybody says I'm a sex addict, but then I'm getting married to three different dudes because you know how I like to get married.
And then I'm playing, I'm dancing on a basketball court, but then I have a hazmat suit on in a steampunk industrial complex where I'm also performing with the other.
Right.
It's, I don't know, but it's intriguing.
I'm intrigued.
I want to know more.
And when you look at the people and they say like starring Fat Joe, Trevor Noah,
Kim Petras, Post Malone, Kiki Palmer, Sophia Vergara, Jennifer Lewis,
Jay Shetty, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Sad Guru,
the dude from YouTube doing all the spiritual shit,
Derek Huff and Ben affleck i was
like okay you lost me again i yeah i'm i'm not sure because there's like also these moments
where she it looks like she's like on somehow like ripping the fabric of space time yeah sure
it gives like really big disney channel original movie with movie with a budget. Like a high school musical production.
Big budget, though.
Meets Interstellar.
Yeah.
Because the visual effects are like, they don't look cheap at all.
Like, they don't look janky.
Like, it would be one thing.
I was like, this looks janky.
I'm like, there's a lot of money in this.
And I think Lacey Mosley, she was saying something on twitter about it how they're
like look she just went in there and said like all this wild shit and they just bought it in the room
like they didn't give a fuck they're like yep we're all in on this we love it so much jlo we
love it jennifer green lit how much money do you need okay uh 40 million dollars that's the life i
want to have too. I admire that.
Yeah.
I have to say this does seem like some shit that I would do.
It was just very zany off the wall.
I'm going to sing and I'm going to dance and this is going to be my thing in my life story.
I get it. I get it, JLo. Yeah.
It's totally like, that's what throws me off is like,
there's some really dark visuals along with stuff that is like so pop,
like not even like pop music like popular culture
like rom-com like sleepless in seattle type stuff yeah but but then like you said we go to
interstellar and i'm like i whatever i'm probably watch it yeah i don't know i don't know what it is
but no idea i love it i think i think yeah yeah is the is the problem here that jennifer
lopez is too talented like that opens up so many avenues for what this can be like like she can
dance and sing and do fashion and do like five genres of movies so we don't know what this is
sing i don't know if she can she does she does say she definitely can dance oh yeah she can
right she can dance so she does sing so she can put an outfit together but all right she
you know she'll be able to look visual artists like that that's where i'm a little bit like
i'm i don't i did not know let's let's see like i'm not trying to be disrespectful i'm just trying
to say oh i did not know that about you j-lo that you were a visionary because i just know you to be a very talented performer but i did not know this is
art do we think and sequoia i know you recoiled a bit is she trying to get in the lane of some
of these other artists like beyonce who are like you thought it was just singing and dancing i'm
gonna fucking you thought i'm seeing art in five? I'm going to fucking... You thought.
I'm seeing art in five dimensions.
That's why I'm ripping the fabric of space-time,
talking to Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Come along for the ride.
I don't think she's trying to do that.
It kind of seems like she's in on the joke,
or they're in on the joke,
based on the From the Dreams of Jennifer Lopez.
That kind of makes me feel like you're in on the joke.
There was no joke when it came to lemonade.
We was not giggling. Yeah. That was so serious. was so serious right right right but that's what i'm saying like
could you like do you think this could even have like a bit of like winking at the audience like
i know this is kind of i do you do i really i hope i really do think that okay well what if it
isn't like what if that's like what y'all think like is it if it's executed well enough i think she could pull
it i think she could pull it off if it's executed well enough okay okay yeah well we'll have to have
some art critics on uh to really examine this yeah further because i love a good musical now
singing and dancing in a number i'm in so i'm already wanting you to win j-lo please come through for me she's i mean how old is j-lo
she's again the time i think she's like 50 lopez come on now what are we talking here 54
let him know halfway to 60 eating the girlies oh come on jennifer
man i'm just like, is it?
I mean, it's genetics and obscene wealth that I think puts you like in a time machine like that.
We're like, I don't know, stress.
I mean, I haven't had a driver look me in my eyes since 1988.
Yeah.
So from that aspect, I think that was someone was saying that, right? It was Jennifer.
Like someone was driving Jennifer Lopez around and like they couldn't look her in the eye kind of thing.
Like that was for real.
Like, why do so many celebrities have the note that people can't look them in the eye?
What's going on?
Are they okay?
Or is that like an urban legend?
I've heard this story from about a number of people now.
About JLo not looking you in the eye?
No, about celebrities not want to be looked in the eye.
Remember when Ellen didn't want to be looked in the eye?
Oh, yeah.
And there's one other one that was notable that was like, don't look at me.
Right.
Why?
Alex, do you think the looking in the eye could be like our confirmation bias with Trump's syphilis?
We're like, yeah, I believe that.
Ellen don't want to look nobody in the eye.
You know what I mean?
Thinking they're too good for eye contact?
Or is there a real thing to be like no nothing they just
don't fuck with eye contact from workers i i feel like it's an evolution of celebrities simply
wearing sunglasses but now they're like sunglasses are for plebeians i tell people to not observe that
i have eyes right wow i don't have to wear sunglasses well i'm not gonna cover them you're
just gonna not look at them yeah i'm high as fuck to not look at them. Yeah. I'm high as fuck. Do not look at me right now.
Oh, now.
I can believe now.
Yeah.
It's really like, I got some stuff going on.
Don't look over here.
I get it.
But, yeah, but it's such a flex where you're like, I don't need sunglasses.
Those motherfuckers just shouldn't look in my direction.
How about that?
You should hide from me.
Stop perceiving my face.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Because I'm me.
Stop perceiving my face.
And y'all are not.
All right. Well, yeah. perceiving my face yeah exactly because i'm me and y'all are not all right um well yeah zeitgang let us know what do you think this is going to be a comedy do you think or not comedy
but do you think it's going to be somewhat tongue-in-cheek is this her pushing her boat
out to be just a complete like you know visionary and doing a whole new lane i don't know is it a
gucci ad that's the other part. I know Gucci
had to have funded some dimension of this.
I just cannot believe
that I was hit with so much Gucci
iconography and
they don't have something to do with this shit.
It would be fantastic if this turned
out to somehow be like 30 seconds long
even though the trailer is bigger.
It's truly just a commercial.
That's it. truly just a commercial that's it yeah the trailer was right does this come out on april 1st when is the when is the date no right no i think it comes out in february oh okay yeah yeah okay i mean but who knows yeah
but she pushes it back she's like actually i have to push the release back to march yeah
march 32nd right 32nd yes Are there 31 days in March?
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
See, I knew that.
See, that joke landed.
All right.
Let's move on to something a little more confounding, aggravating, but also so predictable.
So right now, I feel like a lot of conservatives, they're loving to do this thing right now is to pretend that America has no history of racism or is currently having a contentious battle with the history of racism of the United States.
We have people like Vivek Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley going around saying things like America was never racist, except a couple of years ago when they were very racist to me as being the only Sikh Indian family in this town in South Carolina but after that there has been no racism aside from
chattel slavery and other things like that or manifest destiny and there was no racism during
the Trail of Tears and things like that and then the genocide of indigenous people and taking the
land and aside from that we I don't understand why people are bashing our history just makes no
sense and then people like Charlie Kirk kirk are trying to take down
like the contributions of people like martin luther king just like the latest conservative
tactic which is again to be like racism was never a thing in order to because i think the long game
here is if like from what i'm seeing is that to attack the civil rights act and then say if there
was no racism to begin with there was actually no need to have all these weird protections
for marginalized people in the Civil Rights Act.
And I think we need to rethink that because we were never,
and now look what it's doing.
It's just causing all these problems.
You see what I'm saying?
But Michael Knowles is a contributor over at the Daily Wire,
and he is mostly known for his violent homophobia.
But this week he decided to talk about another thing
he knows absolutely nothing about, which is race.
And he's saying he can now prove through social science
one of the most beloved tropes of racist politicians,
which is, I don't see race.
I just, I'm unable to see race at all.
The way he gets into the story is because the new coach of the New England Patriots
is a black man.
And he was talking about, he's like, I absolutely do see race because it affects people very
deeply.
So I do, I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit up here and say, I don't see race.
Like I absolutely do.
But for the reasons I'm saying, it's to not discount people's experiences as being on the margins of society or being part of a minority group. So that's sort of his inroad into sort of this next really wild quote you're about to hear from him where he breaks down. He's like, I just don't understand like white like white people just truly don't see race. I don't think y'all get it, but here he is in his own words. White people are the only people who do not see color.
In as much as that phrase means anything at all, I don't see color.
The only people for whom that is true is white people.
What? The only people for whom that has been true ever in the whole history of the world
is white people. This is very clear from modern social science.
When you ask people their racial consciousness, when you ask people, hey, is race, is your race
somewhat or very important to you? Every racial group other than white people is above 50%.
what were very important to you? Every racial group other than white people is above 50%. Asians, Hispanics, for black people, it's above 70%. What's the number for white people? 15.
White people have zero racial consciousness, 15%, I guess. They really don't see color.
Everyone else does, and everyone else has for all of history, which is how we've ended up in a situation today where white people are the only group that you can discriminate against by law and according to the mores of society.
Woo!
Woo!
Michael Knowles.
Alex, do you have anything to say?
knows. Alex, do you have anything to say?
Even if any of it was true,
it didn't make sense on its own thing.
He said it was zero white people, but
also 15% white people.
Which one is it?
And how would either of those...
I just can't stand it when
people invoke a phrase like the whole
history of the world and then don't cite anything.
Well, this is the wild part.
It's always wild.
Right?
Because to start, he's citing this Pew Research study that came out during Black History Month, I think like two years ago.
especially black people, black Americans, feeling a connection to a larger group,
like a larger culture that, that is, that connection is vis-a-vis race and like their,
the culture of blackness. And then they, then they go down and compare that with like Hispanics,
with Asians, et cetera. And it was about their, again, their feelings of connection to their larger community and consider like, he's completely leaving out the part that
this is about people that are living in america okay because this is a majority white country
with many people coming here whether through coercion economic or straight up uh just being
like go get your ass over here get on this boat like that's that's that's that it's a very specific
dimension to sort of look at rather than like being like all these people are like they're
like their whole thing like race matters so much to these people like they they can tell your race
like that's how he's trying to make it look like and say like for white people that's just not a
thing and you're what's blowing me is he's saying race matters.
The study was determining if your own race matters to you, not other people's race fucking matters.
Make it make sense.
What are you talking about?
You're not even talking about things.
And if this proves nothing, this proves that white people see themselves as raceless.
Right.
Not that they don't see other people's race.
And the reason that they see themselves as racist because they are the dominant race so they don't have to be othered they are not othered and
never mind that's it i that's enough i know but but truly to your point michael it's called hegemony
okay people's whiteness typically is not has not mattered because it isn't an obstacle for them to
live happy that's the fuck.
Why is that?
Because white people are like the people,
the respondents in this survey were like,
I don't see a race.
It's just a different,
a completely different experience.
And like when you completely leave out the part of like what the experience is
for people who are not white,
cis,
het,
Christian people in this country,
a lot of these other things matter a lot because they've
typically been presented to you as a reason for you to not get a raise or to not get an opportunity
or the reason why people don't want to sit with you or be friends with you and shit like that
so it's a very it's very like wild to just like look at that and just in such bad faith like
you see what i'm talking about 15 don't even see race it's like
he's illiterate like words don't mean things to him like he read those words and decided that they
didn't mean what the word means right they mean something else yeah it it feels like you know
again this is like why this like information landscape is so bad right now is that you have
people because there are people there are going to be white people who listen to this who are like probably beginning to have some kind of feeling of like
interrogating or inspecting or having some introspection about like race and it's like
has like it doesn't matter like is it is it bad that i'm white am i bad for being white or something
and you have people who just want to like dead any kind of real thought there and just be like
no no stop stop stop stop stop they're trying to make you feel bad because
you're white and the DEI stuff that's going to make planes crash. Just please stop thinking.
It's a thing to consider. These people are just haters. Right. And you just need to get past that
because guess what? We don't see we're actually like, here's a study to help you stay in your place of no growth is we're actually like one of the only people on earth where it doesn't matter.
And I think and that's what bothers people is that we honestly, we're just not even capable of having race matter.
I can't do this.
Slippery slope, slippery slope slippery slope yeah i am i'm so curious about this guy's like co-workers that is his right wing billionaire funded content
mill or whatever like do they think he's just doing kind of what the rest of them do for work
or is he really going even beyond what they say when they when they log into the office
i mean this feels this feels like part and parcel of what you hear in conservative media in general
which is to always dismiss the idea of racism because if if racism doesn't exist then we never
have to take people seriously when they say racism is an issue yeah so to because if you begin to
entertain someone's criticism or someone's
observation analysis about a society then you would have to begin to engage with that but they
don't even want to begin to engage with that because they saw what happened in 2020 some
people were like oh man like should i read a book they're like i don't read no fucking book
they're fucking tripping okay they're tripping that's it and it sounds like the kind of
shit that like people when they have like bad friends who like you know for example like if
you drinking or doing a lot of drugs and you're like yo i'm actually thinking about like doing
less like oh really oh so you better than us no don't do that bro the people that are telling you
you got a problem they're haters bro they're haters and they want to keep you at the same level they don't want people going whatever outside of that
way of thinking so it's always good for them to just be like neutralize any kind of critical
thought with this like yeah no thought killer here's a thought killer we're incapable of it
and racism doesn't exist i don't know why people keep saying this y'all this is so wild to me that
don't you know social science disproves that don't know why people keep saying this, y'all. This is so wild to me. Don't you know? Social science disproves that.
Don't you know social science?
Right.
And then they can go and say that at, you know, the next, like, local gathering of people.
And they'll be like, well, I believe that's actually, we're incapable.
And people are going to be parroting this shit straight back to someone who's trying to actually make a point.
Yeah.
And then it'll make it to the RNC stage.
And then it'll become more mainstream.
And then we'll be fucked. So rnc stage and then it'll become more mainstream and then yeah we'll be fucked so yeah yeah which is wild because with uh nikki haley being like
oh you know like racism doesn't exist or whatever guess donald trump has started calling her by her
given name nimrata to to begin to turn up the heat on her to be like, just so y'all know. Stop it. She's not white.
She is Nimrata.
She is Indian.
Yeah, you're like, people, it's...
See, Nikki?
Yeah.
Watch your motherfucking mouth.
Watch your mouth.
Look it.
Don't get cozy with them.
Don't get too cute and cozy.
Yeah, because I understand the feeling
that to be in the in-group might feel like it's safe,
but the second you are a fucking obstacle or they just need you're too much for them, they're going to fucking throw your ass out.
Just like I was talking about Vivek Ramaswamy on the Babylon Bee, which is like the conservative shitty version of the onion.
They're already making jokes that they're like, oh, he's going to be working the White House 7-Eleven.
That's going to be his job in the administration.
And you're like, look at how they're already doing yeah like and i'm sorry but they don't see race though
yeah what is that based on that's based on the simpsons that's what i thought yeah this is i
have a simpsons i have a simpsons based philosophy yeah i mean you know a joke is good if the simpsons did it and was not even the first to do it yeah yeah
yeah truly i mean yeah so michael knowles uh you're trying it but again i think this is
important to see like this is this is the kind of mental conditioning inoculation that they're doing
on the conservative side because again i'm honestly there's so much talk about being like
the civil rights act man if
we can just get that out of the way and you're like holy shit like don't even get the fuck out
of me i literally did not know that this was going on i'm terrified people are that you i hear this
more and more and more like when i'm reading conservative shit or like looking at their
little fucking video podcast and shit there's like this real like that's why charlie kirk spent so much time with with the help of this black man to be like
uh here black man can you tell everybody why mlk was actually bad and like and just uh you know
drag his name through the dirt and you know that way we can just prove this point that everything
that he was trying to do was actually bad therefore the civil rights struggle was just for not like
it was just all a waste of time it's dangerous it's dangerous very yikes yeah yeah i give that
two yikes all right let's take another break and we'll come back to talk about blue monday
and i wish we were talking about the new order song but we're not but we'll be back after this.
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And after I made that New Order joke about Blue Monday,
I was like, what was that band like in the late 90s or aughts that covered it
and kind of brought the song back?
And my younger esteemed guests were like, sir, are you talking about debanking again?
What's on your hands?
And I'm like, no, it was this band.
They brought the whole wave back.
It was orgy.
And shout out to my geriatric millennials and older who remember when orgy brought the Blue Monday song or Blue New Damn New Order song Blue Monday back.
when orgy brought the blue monday song or blue new damn new order song blue monday back all that to say we need to talk about blue monday the capitalist hoax that continues to persist i
wasn't fully aware of this as a concept did you guys know about blue monday at all
alex what about you i've heard that phrase but i think it's mostly because of kurt vonnegut's
writing and he's referencing like an advertising concept for washing machines right you can beat Alex, what about you? I've heard that phrase, but I think it's mostly because of Kurt Vonnegut's writing.
He's referencing like an advertising concept for washing machines. Right.
You can beat Blue Monday by having easier laundry to do in like the 1950s.
Ah, well, again, along that similar vein, apparently like this is something that's really big in like Europe, mostly the UK and in Canada as well.
They've heard tell of Blue Monday.
and in Canada as well. They've heard tell of Blue Monday. But apparently, it is the third Monday in January, and it is known as, quote, the most depressing day of the year. And I'm like, what
does that exactly mean? Like, here's headlines from the Standard in the UK. Blue Monday 2024.
When is Blue Monday and how to beat it? Another headline. It's officially the most depressing day
of the year. An expert offers some tips to lift the gloom on Blue Monday.
Blue Monday is coming up.
Are you prepared for the most depressing day of the year?
So we had it.
I didn't realize it was the most.
I guess that MLK day for us was Blue Monday.
Damn.
Yes.
Maybe that's why they're trying to get him out of here.
I know.
I'm surprised there wasn't like, oh, coincidence much that Blue Monday is also Martin Luther King Day.
Right.
The most depressing day for white people.
So they're saying, are you prepared?
I'm like, okay, so what is going on?
Now, some of these outlets do admit that there is no actual scientific evidence to back up this premise, this concept of Blue Monday.
But also not all of them call out this concept of Blue Monday. But also,
not all of them call out the fact that Blue Monday is just a straight up scam. You're getting
bamboozled. The culprit, perhaps, is late stage capitalism. This pseudoscientific reasoning behind
why, quote, Blue Monday is so depressing involves like this actual, I mean, actual, I only say that
because there are like like equation like it
looks like a math equation a legit looking mathematical equation which equates things
like debt motivation weather and the time that's elapsed since christmas as a way to determine that
like to quantify that this is the most depressing day but even anyone anyone who like looks at this for like
one moment you'll realize like how the fuck can you even compute this because there aren't even
like shared units of measurement like how do you compare it's like saying okay a large pizza
times the gdp of brazil equals uh that mickey rooney is actually bill Billy Eilish's grandfather.
Yeah.
And you're like, what?
Is this metric SADS or imperial SADS?
I can't figure it out.
Right.
How do we measure the depression?
And whose unit are we using?
And I guess the inventor of this equation was a guy named Dr. Cliff Arnall,
who was hired by a fucking travel company, Sky Travel.
They're defunct now, back in 2005,
to basically just contribute to a press release.
And they wanted to sell people on the idea
that there is a most depressing day of the year,
which would then inspire the consumer to consume
and to book a vacation,
thanks to Sky Travel bringing this all to light and he kind
of has like some credibility to back up these claims he's like yeah well you know i was a
cardiff university psychologist but then pretty quickly the uh like cardiff university was like
no this dude was a quote former part-time tutor like let's not get this like fucked up like he
was not that's not what he was doing and he later tried to walk back this great cultural myth that he created by saying it was never his, quote, intention to make January even worse for people.
And he even admitted the idea of Blue Monday was not particularly helpful.
But guess what?
That fucking apology was part of another commercial campaign for a travel company
virgin atlantic police keep fucking with this guy they said the campaign will encourage the nation
to dispel their blue monday beliefs and instead embrace the new possibilities that another year
can hold possibilities like traveling to Thailand or Vietnam or South America.
It's just like one of those really, it's just super cynical when you're just like kind of like using this idea that, yeah, winter is hard for people.
Coming out of the holidays is hard for people.
Having resolutions and like trying to stick to those can lead to people being demotivated.
But then to be like, book your package holiday with us.
Wild.
Check out Marbella Spain.
It's absolutely popping.
And the time he also, he supposedly cracked the formula for the happiest day of the year.
He said, oh yeah, I'm doing that now.
Because he pivoted to saying he was a freelance happiness guru, which sounds like me when I was just like dating a bunch of people and smoking weed in my 20s.
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, well, what do I do?
I'm like a freelance happiness guru.
What the fuck?
It's like a vibes curator.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
But, and for some reason,
I kind of respect a vibes curator more than a freelance.
I think it's just the wording is just more with our times. Yeah, guru's bad.
Guru is bad overall. We have too many gurus, especially on social media. freelance i think it's just the the wording is just more with our times yeah guru's bad guru
yeah it was bad overall we have too many gurus especially on social media yeah vibes curator
you can say you're a vc that's kind of nice you know wow yeah yeah we should be c are you
sequoia are you a vibes curator do you do you i like to think so absolutely i definitely do
curate vibes yeah yeah like i think the same way if i'm having you know
like a like a gathering or somebody's like being like oh like i want to have like a dinner i'm like
okay what do you like what are you thinking like you don't have a spread is it going to be like a
spread you want a bounty for people do people bring in their own thing do you want to just
have it so your guests are like blown away by your hospitality is it a group effort i feel
it could be me overthinking maybe that's a vibes curator
a little bit you know a little type a a little overthink but i never heard nobody i like that
though i also like to host like that so i feel it yeah i mean i love can i for the record i love
a spread same when people put a spread out there is nothing that blows me more away than somebody
who's like you thought of all these other things just to put out here for this little gathering?
Like, these are fine meats.
Maybe not cheeses.
No cheeses for me.
But yogurt flavored ice creams and popcorn.
What's your spray?
It's going to be frozen yogurt and popcorn.
Yes.
The fro-yo right there.
Frozen yogurt and popcorn.
I'll give you some Cheez-Its, some Goldfish.
Oh, you eat Cheez-Its though?
Oh, yeah.
I like cheese flavor things.
Okay.
Yes, but not cheese.
Flavor blast?
Yeah, I like the flavor blast.
Okay, Alex.
Goldfish.
Flavor blast?
Oh, they're great.
Yeah.
Yeah, the more the better.
Okay.
All right.
I'm just making sure.
Just making sure.
Are you a vibes curator?
Do you see yourself as a vibes curator, Alex? I think maybe i i don't know if i aspire to it
i think i try to participate you know but i'm not a big spread builder i'm more of a spread uh
supporter or like oh good job keep it up okay i like that that's also but that is good you are
contributing to the vibes in a positive way yeah so i think vibes consumer vibes contributor these are all contribute consume or be a connoisseur or curator either way
you do you do what you got to do but yeah the reason why like blue monday it just like
sticks around like apparently all like in so much marketing people are still using it as like a
fucking being like hey man like you want to buy a fucking big Mac by get the fucking vibe meal and
shit.
Burger King that a vibe meal anyway,
but it seems like the calm might be working.
Cause last year in the United Kingdom,
online sales were probably reportedly shot up by 18% on blue Monday because
all this shit like,
Oh yeah.
Like,
like it's wild how you can get in people's minds,
right?
Like in America, black Friday, cyber Monday. it's like yeah you better buy some shit don't be fucking
stupid fucking around it's black friday you fucking dumb man go fucking buy something you
don't fucking need because that weird mobile phone charger uh costs like half off now like i don't
and i and look at me i bought one but i use it
sparingly sparingly but you know like i i try to i try to and then like so it's wild that like they're using this thing of like weaponizing people's own like mental health or like seasonal
affective disorder whatever like just to be like oh yeah it's gloomy to be like you know what will
fucking help you to buy some shit man that is so ugly. I don't appreciate being manipulated
like that. This is so ugly.
Well, you know, what are they going to do?
Deal with root causes of people's feelings
of loneliness, sadness, isolation?
Who would support the pharmaceutical industry if we had to do root causes?
Yeah, exactly. Oh, what am I going to do? Pay real wages?
LOL.
No. No. It's Blue Monday.
Okay. Did you buy
that, uh, whatever the fuck? Did you buy that Stanley mug? The Stanley Blue Monday. Okay, did you buy that whatever the fuck?
Did you buy that Stanley mug?
The Stanley?
Right.
Yeah.
Did you get your Stanley?
Oh, man.
Yeah.
It also just feels fake that it would be a Monday specifically is the saddest day.
Like, why?
I don't know.
Tuesdays can be harder.
And it just, I don't know.
I don't buy that either.
I'm kind of with you.
I think Tuesdays, Mondays, I get like just because it's the first day back.
But Tuesdays, you're like, fuck, bro.
It's only like you do this.
You're like, it's only fucking Tuesday.
It's the other part.
Monday, you know, you're like, it's fucking Monday.
But Tuesday, you're like, fuck, then there's Wednesday.
Yeah.
Thursday.
You're so far from what we get on a Tuesday.
You're like, nah, never mind.
Let me just put it out of my head right now.
We're at Friday today, so we're good.
Yeah, exactly.
And happy Friday to you.
And thank you so much to our guests, our guest, Sequoia B. Holmes.
Thank you so much for joining us.
It's always a pleasure having you.
Where do the people find you, follow you, listen to you and all that very important stuff?
You can listen to my podcast anywhere you listen to podcasts, including YouTube. You can find me
on social media at BPLPPod
and listen to Black People Love Paramore.
It's a fun time. Go see what we're talking about.
Yeah, what are some upcoming episodes you guys
are talking about? Today I'm talking about the Cheetah Girls.
Oh my God, I'm so excited. I love the Cheetah Girls so
bad. I recently talked about 13,
which is a very dark teen movie that came
out in 2003. I don't know if y'all have seen it.
It's wild. If you have not, please go check it out i i just remember hearing about it and be like i don't know
about if i need that yeah it was way it was adult eyes and i remember being when i was a kid but
yeah that's a raven because i haven't seen it yeah i was like oh that all that was in it what
yeah yeah who's in that in 13? Evan Rachel Wood.
That's right.
That's right.
That was the thing that kind of put her on, right?
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also the one that played, the lady that played one of the vampires in Twilight.
I can't remember her name right now.
Yeah.
Nikki Reed.
Nikki Reed.
I learned from your show.
Sorry.
Yes.
Nikki Reed.
Yeah.
Nikki Reed wrote it.
She co-wrote it as a 12 year old or 13 year old
You know interesting story
I used to get fucking high
As hell with one of the cheetah girls
Whoa
You're going to have to tell me after
You're going to have to tell me after
It was Keely
Not you telling us now
Whatever
You know what that tracks We Whatever. You know what? That tracks.
That tracks really hard.
We were 18.
You know what I mean?
She had like her fucking whole.
I remember she had her little checks and things.
And she was like, y'all buy a fucking ounce of it.
She could.
I mean.
She was smoking.
We buy it by the pound.
She said.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Was not playing.
Did not get him to play.
Anyway, Keely, I hope you remember me.
It's Miles.
I used to hang out with Mike and them. We used to the spot all the time yeah yeah yeah shyla buff that
was a way that was just a whole other era though um anyway uh what is a tweet or other work of
social media that you're enjoying oh i forgot about this it is io adebri and quinta brunson
on the red carpet singing the cheetah girls lol um together and
then they put the little fake microphone next to Yami Rami Yusuf oh got it got it got it and he
finishes the lyrics for the cheetah girls and I'm like gang wow and that's how influential it is
thank you man because like what was the other was it Adrianrian bylon too adrian bylon yes yeah yeah what was the
group that the 3l dub right 3lw yo yeah because that was the group keely and them wasn't and
adrian came from yeah yeah yeah see this oh shit this is all because i'm telling you all the little
child actors and shit they all lived in the oakwood apartments over there off barham in la
and like that is sort of like the nexus point for like i grew up in the valley so i would
always meet these kids so i have a lot the intersection with the oakwood apartments i have
i have so many stories man that should be its own fucking podcast anyway yeah thank you again
sequoia um alex always a pleasure having you you're always so fun just a gentleman and a scholar
um and a vibe contributor and consumer.
I always appreciate that.
Where did the people find you, follow you, and what's the work of media that you've been enjoying?
Thank you for this spread.
It's great.
Media I've been enjoying.
I got to find a link for you guys.
There's a TikTok I saw, and I believe it's in Italy, but they titled it Bongiorno Cat.
Because when people say hello to this cat,
it meows back three little meows
that sounds like,
meow, meow, meow.
It's Bonjorno, but it's meows.
No!
It's very exciting.
Yeah.
Hold on, I gotta look that up.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
I love that.
Bonjorno Cat.
Oh, shit.
Here it is.
Bonjorno.
It's so cute oh man italy is such a wonderful place uh what a magical place um you can find me okay well first
let me tell you a tweet that i like uh this one is from chase mitchell at chase mitt uh tweeted that photo of donald trump with his like hands all blistered
and stuff and just just put a tweet a quote on it said many people said the fajita plate was too hot
folks but i picked it up very easily some would say too easily that's a good donald trump impression come on miles ain't that yeah
i love that shit that's oh no no no oh and you can find me uh at miles of gray on twitter and
instagram you can find jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad
boosties that's an nba podcast and also find me on
my 90-day fiance podcast for 20-day fiance uh with sophia alexandra um and also you can follow us at
daily zeitgeist on twitter at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a
website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes footnotes thank you
so much alex see that was just alley you you just
took it and you put it down so yeah be sure to follow us there where you can find things like
the song that we're gonna write out on today a song we're gonna write out on today is by the
artist lava larue uh comes from west london in it you know described as funkadelic brit pop
and this track is called magpie i feel like I've heard this song super
sped up on TikTok because when I first started hearing, I'm like, wait, I know the vibe of this
song. But I think it's one of those tracks that gets like either like played at 3x speed or played
at like 0.15 speed, which is what I feel like what all the kids are doing on TikTok now.
So anyway, check this one out. It's really dope, I really love her sound The production is really cool
And you know, just kind of give you some upbeatness
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