The Daily Zeitgeist - Joe Rogan Is NOT a Doctor?? Trump’s Weird 9/11 Plans 9.9.21

Episode Date: September 9, 2021

In episode 985, Jack and Miles are joined by writer Dave Schilling to discuss the GOP January 6th probe, Joe Rogan shilling for Ivermectin, Trump doing commentary on a 9/11 right, Andre 3000 wanting t...o be left out of the Kanye/Drake beef, and more!FOOTNOTES: GOP’s Promised Jan. 6 Probe Has One Problem: No One Wants It Joe Rogan Is Back From COVID and Shilling for Ivermectin Now Trump to offer commentary at heavyweight fight on 9/11 André 3000 doesn't appreciate getting dragged into this dumb Drake/Kanye feud LISTEN: El Michels Affair - Masterclass Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 201, Episode 3 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Thursday, September 9th, 2021. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Cum of Vaccine.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Oh, it's just not the same. It is ruined. My cum's not worth anything. That is courtesy of Christy. I'm Gucci Mane. We are sticking with the vaccinated cum theme. And I love it. I love it, man.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Keep them coming. I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Saw E. Lee in two pieces. Racist on life support. Ivermectin not working. Won't wear a mask. Don't care if your ass Stop breathing Okay
Starting point is 00:03:06 So Robert E. Lee's Fucking metal ass Got just ripped to shreds In Virginia Goodbye To that racist monument And shout out to Diogenus the Critic
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Starting point is 00:03:30 I dare say, to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer, humorist, and podcast host whose work you've seen in the Los Angeles Times, The Guardian, The New Yorker, New York Magazine, if you're very well read.
Starting point is 00:03:45 He was the co-host of the Ringer's wrestling podcast, Masked Man Show, and went on to work with WWE's writing staff, which makes him, I think, our most refined expert on the world of pro wrestling. Possibly. Of our illustrious roster of regular guests. He currently co-hosts the podcast galaxy brains along with jonah ray please welcome the hilarious the fashionable the brilliant dave shilling hey thanks guys that's a really cool intro i always comment on the intro when i come on this show and this is one of the best thank you fellas i feel like it was very complimentary and it's always good to be back
Starting point is 00:04:23 we're just that's it's just a mirror, babe. We didn't do anything. I did dress up more last week, or last time I was on here. Last week. Last time I was on the show. Today, I'm just wearing my Arsenal shirt. Hey. Pull it off.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Two of us. Two gooners. That's how you know somebody's fashionable. Feeling real low. Two fucking fools who ruined their life picking the shittiest team possible. Oof. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Are you guys, is this a new coach this season? I feel like I've asked you before. No, we've had the same coach for about 18 months. Same clown. 18 months. No good. It seems like ever since you guys switched coaches, that was kind of a hopeful moment.
Starting point is 00:04:58 No, ever since we, the problem was we had a coach who was like watching over the team for 20 years. So we had such consistency. And whenever you switch it out, it's going to be chaos. And also the Cronkies. That's what I was going to say. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:05:14 The Cronkies are bad. The Cronkies. I look at this. I was telling somebody, can you believe it? You guys spent, someone was giving me shit. You spent all this money over the summer. And I said, look, we're spending players that are going to fucking fucking potentially give us good money all a good value if we transfer them and have a nice solid young core to like maneuver with no matter who the manager is but more than that
Starting point is 00:05:35 of the issue that i see it's like bar rescue it's not that the players you know or the bar you know the bar rescue it's not the staff's fault or the manager's fault you usually look at the owner what's the owner fucking doing because that's fault or the manager's fault. You usually look at the owner. What's the owner fucking doing? Because that's usually where the rot is coming from. And when the cronkies, it's all fucking coming from there. They just don't give a fuck. Yeah, we didn't get John Taffer in there as a manager.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yeah, exactly. Give me Taffer. You know what will make them work? If you stop paying them wages because they're dogs. Did you see him on Laura Ingraham ingram's show dave no i didn't know he was one of those he said yeah with with unemployment benefits he said a hungry dog is obedient i'm talking about workers i was like okay boy okay yeah fundamental differences in how we see uh human existence i guess yeah exactly you're a dog. Yep. Yep. I value all people
Starting point is 00:06:26 except for John Taffer, I guess. He's a prick. But yeah, man, a bad owner is worse than a bad anything because that shit just doesn't go away.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Because think of like how long Raiders fans hated Al Davis. Right. Knicks fans have been struggling for decades now. Yeah. Knickers fans have the best owner in sports right and that's why we're consistently good yeah and the years where we were bad we had
Starting point is 00:06:53 her stupid brother in charge right uh washington football team yep yep the list goes on and on yeah i'm sure like yeah people, that's like, people of the world unite to overthrow the owners of their favorite teams to live in a better world. Yeah, we should own all of our favorite sports teams. They should be owned by the city. By the fan base. Or the fan base, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Absolutely. Isn't that kind of what the Packers are? Yeah, and they've been consistently good for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Who would have guessed? If you just, you know, empower the people who care the most, things will happen that are good. Because I guess it's either that model or the Galacticos, like, Yankees model, which is like, I'll make it rain on everybody and we'll just buy up the best talent.
Starting point is 00:07:41 That's how we'll make it work. But that's not realistic for most people. Unless you're Cutter. Right. Exactly. All right, Dave, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, just to run down on some of the things we're talking about today, we're going to talk about how the GOP is dealing with their January 6th commission. We're going to talk about Joe Rogan back at it again, baby. He's recovered from COVID, and he's got some thoughts on what cured him. It is not the FDA-approved proven treatment. And yeah, we'll leave it there.
Starting point is 00:08:15 We'll talk about what Donald Trump, the true president, is going to be doing on 9-11. We'll talk about Andre 3000. All that, plenty more but first dave uh what is something from your search history well i'm glad you asked because it's something we've talked about already off mic and that is the war on tiktok over skinny jeans i googled tiktok skinny jeans because i was researching an article a column I'm writing for the LA Times, about the backlash against skinny jeans from Generation Z, jeans for those who grew up in the 90s 2000s you know the millennials those were the most important garments you could purchase like we were all wearing skinny jeans and all of our favorite celebrities were wearing really tight
Starting point is 00:09:19 clothes for a long time and uh yeah now people people are like, nah, man, you gotta blow those pants out. I need space to grow. I need to be able to billow when I walk. And that's why I wrote this piece is because I really wanted to express my joy as a millennial at being freed from the tyranny of this bullshit, of these incredibly snug pants
Starting point is 00:09:44 that no one actually fits into no and i was telling you before i was like i could never even find a pair of skinny jeans that could fit me because i'm just i have like i just massive thighs i could i couldn't wear them unless i i would probably have needed like a custom- made pair of jeans that could have conformed to my physiology to even have the look of a skinny jean. Yeah. And now like whenever I like if I have anything that's remotely like a skinny jean, I'm like, oh, it's just got got to have a lot of elastic. Exactly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:16 You got to just basically put a rubber band in that shit. Let me go to town. Now pants are a little a little looser, a little wider. Elastic waistbands are way more popular. And for me personally, I have more means than I ever have in my entire life. I mean, I better. I'm almost 40 years old for fuck's sake. So I better be able to buy stuff now. And now I can go get stuff tailored. I can go take a pair of Tom Ford tuxedo pants that I bought from the Real Real and get those tailored to fit me properly. That is not something that I could do when I was
Starting point is 00:10:51 in college. And every single place you go to buy clothes, the pants are skin tight. Right. Have you gotten a pair of jeans tailored? Is that even a thing that's possible? No, no. I mean, you can. I've never done it before because I'm not a big jeans guy. I remember I was so hyped on getting these like black Supreme jeans like 15 years ago. And the only ones I could get were like two sizes too big. So I had to take them to a tailor to adjust them to fit me because I was like, I was like, fuck it. Maybe I took an L, but like buying a jean like jeans I couldn't fit into. But, you know, for 40 bucks, they did it right.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Always buy bigger, never smaller. Because at least, you know, in your 20s, you can expect you're going to get bigger. I guess now, no matter what, you can expect you're going to get bigger. You're going to fill out. You're going to exercise less. You're going to eat more. You're going to be constantly full of stress. You're not sleeping well so if you buy a pair of supreme jeans today in your if you're in your 20s
Starting point is 00:11:51 or early 30s just hold on to it let it ride those are gonna be cherry those will be classic when you're fat enough to fit into them i have a pair i'm sitting on that i have been tailored from fucking 10 years ago yeah there you go dude that's that's basically found money that's like finding a 20 bill in your pocket now i just want to i just want to clarify like there's nothing wrong with you being a bigger person i'm certainly a bigger person than i have been in the past and i always encourage people to dress comfortably and to to feel comfortable and to feel good about themselves and their bodies. Don't try to conform to some bullshit stereotype. That's what I hate about skinny jeans is that they force people into clothes that didn't fit them, that made them feel bad about themselves.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah. And it's got to go. The only thing I liked about skinny jeans is that it made it easier to, like, kind of show off the shoe that you're wearing. Oh, yeah. I thought you were going to say show off the goods. The only thing I liked about skinny jeans was, like, yeah, you could show off the pipage. You know what I'm talking about, right? What are you laying over there?
Starting point is 00:12:57 The rooter's arrived. That's right. Roto-rooter. What is something you think is overrated? I always have a hard time with this when I come on this show. But this is the one week, the one episode I've been on where I'm really prepared. And the thing I find the most overrated right now is letter writing. There are all kinds of people who are like,
Starting point is 00:13:20 You know what would be cool? Is to write my sister a letter. Or my mom and dad letters. Like, I'm going to sit down with a piece of paper and a pen and Is to write my sister a letter. Or my mom and dad letters. Like, I'm going to sit down with a piece of paper and a pen and I'm going to write a letter. Like, why? You're just going to cramp? Your hand, your poor hand, is going to cramp up. You're wasting paper.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You have to then get a stamp. And then you have to go to the post office. Or you have to go to whatever, like the mailbox in your building or your house. It's just too much work for what? Someone's just going to crumple it up and throw it in the fucking trash. Who saves letters? Nobody saves letters except for characters in Jane Austen novels. Like, get out of here with this letter writing horseshit.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Or like people in Love After Lockup. And I have all the letters he sent me from the inside. Yeah, who saves letters or saved letters? Fucking Charles Manson. The Menendez brothers. Scott Peterson. Shall I continue? Who does?
Starting point is 00:14:15 Who is it for? I mean, because I try and look at it practically. The reason I don't write letters is because I have much quicker ways to communicate with people. And I guess I don't see. much quicker ways to communicate with people and i guess i don't see i'm not too attached to like i guess the whimsical or the you know the the value uh that makes letter writing sort of attractive but i don't also like i just i write big block letters and i'll fill up a page in like three sentences oh yeah my handwriting is fucking poor right that's another thing. My mother has beautiful handwriting and she'll like
Starting point is 00:14:46 send her letters with like perfume. I'm like, Bob, who gives a fuck? Just send me an email. Type it. Text me. Just don't call me
Starting point is 00:14:55 because I don't have time to talk. Don't verbally speak to me. Yeah, please. Whatever you can do, efficient conversation is more important than good conversation in my opinion. What's going to be our letter writing?
Starting point is 00:15:07 Because I can see why your mother would say she loves it. I look at my parents, my grandmother, she had fucking beautiful handwriting. In a way that I was like, I get it. This is like graffiti for people at home. They're like, let me throw up this beautiful letter but i'm trying to think of what our dated sort of mode of communication that will insist on then people like we're off that we're all meeting in the metaverse ho i mean i think there's like a classiness veneer to letter writing that like still persists with some young people like that it's like artisanal emails that's why
Starting point is 00:15:47 i hate it email thank you note and yeah yeah there is something about getting a nice handwritten note you know after the fact as a gesture i i see the value and maybe it's like as a gesture like i've come with something like oh wow look wow, look at that. That's handwriting. That's a little more effort. Give me a card. Go to Hallmark and get me a card. Go to Papyrus if those still exist. Give me a greeting card.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Thanks. Signed, whoever, Miles. Like, I don't need you to write a fucking tome about how great my wedding was. Just get out of here. Do you feel pressured to then return it? Is that perfect? Yes, of course. Hell no. You have essentially given me extra work.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah. By doing the work yourself, you have forced me to give you the labor that you have so graciously bestowed upon me. No, thank you. If I don't do it, then I'm the bad guy. And in a sense, it's ableism because I do not have the ability to write.
Starting point is 00:16:47 My handwriting fucking sucks. I'm left-handed. It's like all over the place. I smudge the shit out of it. So it's like they're wagging in my face their ability to write beautifully. And it's just they don't understand what it would be like if I tried to write them back. It would be an ordeal for both of us. I think our version of it, our generation's
Starting point is 00:17:08 version of this sort of artisanal horse shit is AOL Instant Messenger. Or Gchat. And it's already dead. Yeah, it's already dead, but we're like, remember when you come home from school and you just talk all night with your crush and you'd send
Starting point is 00:17:24 little emojis that weren't actually emojis because you had to use like a colon and the parentheses to make a smiley face you remember that it sucked it was not that great it was it was fine it was a mode of communication that's it i don't see anything like cool about it oh shit are you playing the sound i was like what the fuck is that oh my god i oh wow i am i am about to pop out of my trousers oh shit this is so exciting i know you're hitting up smarter child and saying hey uh when the what what time is a mortal combat playing at the amc north six yeah where are we where are we riding to tonight boys or just like flirting with a girl all night
Starting point is 00:18:07 and having like a really intense conversation that amounts to absolutely nothing oh boy i think she really likes me oh i wonder what it's gonna be like at school tomorrow which is so which i guess makes sense why like on like app dating is so it has like kind of similar energy but most people don't have the same passion for it like we did aim because a lot of people like it's just like i'm dating over text i'm like that is pretty much the only way i was communicating with people at a certain point yeah we weren't allowed to have phones in our rooms and we had cell phones but like they weren't yeah we we didn't have um you know iphones at the time so it was just like, well, let's get on AIM and we'll figure it out.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Get on AIM and just have very lewd conversations over text in someone's family room. The computer is stationed. Good Lord. Yeah, the computer was just riddled with viruses and all kinds of horrible things were being said. Kind of like now, I guess. Yeah. It's not that different. It's just like a test run for the internet, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:19:08 What is something you think is underrated? R&B legend. British R&B legend, Craig David. Have you guys listened to the song Seven Days recently? Yeah. It slaps, man. It's so good. That's all I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I love Craig David. That song in particular. I guess this is kind of the opposite of what i said was overrated because this is nostalgia for me i think about like middle school dances high school dances and this song playing if you haven't ever heard this song because you're incredibly young and you don't remember this was this was a radio hit this was on mtv all the time craig Craig David had hair that looked like it was painted on. Because that was the style back then. It's like black men with hair that looked fake and really, really well-groomed facial hair.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. The kind of like Lothario sort of vibe. Those edge-ups, you know, like John B. had one too. Like, oh, his beard line. And when I look at Craig David now, I'm like, you look like Lloyd Banks mixed with Matt Barnes. But he does have a little Matt Barnes in there.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah. But he had swag in the day. He had swag. His album. Yeah. It was off his solo album, solo debut album, born to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:19 That's right. I love that title. I like the directness of that title. Tell me everything I need to know in the title of this album. What were you born to do, my friend? It. That's right. It.
Starting point is 00:20:29 That's right, baby. I mean, Fill Me In is another, you know. That's another jam. Another Craig David banger. There was one I caught when I was really into that show, People Just Do Nothing. Like, they were doing this thing on the BBC where they would do, like, these garage takeovers on BBC Extra. And they would have all these, like, on bbc extra and they would have all these like garage mcs coming out and like spitting and they had craig david come out and
Starting point is 00:20:49 he sung he sang phil he started rapping and he actually was kind of nice with it yeah and then he started singing fill me in over the justin bieber or like where are you now beat and like he kind of did a remix and i was like oh shit this shit goes okay craig david yeah he's still a superstar in in the uk uh he hasn't fallen off at all but here he's just been kind of lost to time sadly and can you fill me in as it does not appear to be a song about getting pegged or asking to get pegged no listen. Listen, every song is actually about that. I'm just going to tell you. Right, yeah. Deep down.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I mean, if you really look at the lyrics, I mean, you know, can you fill me in? Come on. It starts with that question. What you want me to do? Yeah. Can you fill me in? He was born to do it. Look, it's all there.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Come on. You don't need a map to figure out what the fuck he's talking about. Okay. I was checking this girl next door when her parents were in the house said hey boy come on right around do you know what i mean for pegging come on right around the door around where we're ready to pour right around the corner you know yeah you got the blind ready dressed in a long black satin and laced to the floor so i went in then we sat down started kissing caressing told me about jacuzzi sounded interesting so we jumped right in i mean we jumped right into what exactly yeah we'll look into it yeah listen it's no laughing matter pegging is a cool thing it's no laughing matter
Starting point is 00:22:15 and yet i'm laughing i'm sorry i think we're with continuation from that uh dell curry That Del Curry tweet thread we were talking about last episode. Peking out here. Down here pecking, man. You're not ready, Del. You're not ready for being out here. They're pecking out here. They need to make that thread into a movie. They really do. Enough with the Zola stuff. Make that into a movie.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Yeah, what this man went through. You know what I mean? Oh, hell yeah. I'll write the scripts. Like a rom-com. We'll get Jordan Peele direct. Starring that guy. I mean, 60% crab leg was 30% iced coffee, 10% vape pen or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:53 That's a very vivid person. I keep saying somebody needs to hire that guy. Somebody has hired that guy or whoever wrote that. Right. That was brilliant. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come right back. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
Starting point is 00:23:27 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday.
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Starting point is 00:26:10 We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and yeah so the republicans are you know, taking the January 6th, you know, investigation that they're doing their separate one about as seriously as you would expect them to.
Starting point is 00:26:54 But they were not too long ago talking about how they were they were here to find justice, bring justice. Find justice. Bring justice. Dude, Kevin McCarthy pulled up. He said, I don't need the bipartisan commission, even though that would have given us a lot more room to fuck around and alter the course of the investigation. We don't need it because we will do our own. We'll do our own. Well, it looks like they aren't doing anything at all
Starting point is 00:27:22 because it's been a long time and we haven't seen anything meaningful in regards to any kind of investigation aside from the fact that they seem to be like we got to know what happened with the capitol police why were they so ill-prepared and i think that was just because they knew that was a way they could eventually put like nancy pelosi into focus so i just there's a couple of things that there are a lot of people on the hill are saying like look the whole thing is none of these people want to fucking engage in a real investigation because all roads are going to lead back to them or trump it's not going to end up being antifa and the fucking you know ghosts of uh you know murdered black men who you know
Starting point is 00:28:01 took over people's bodies to take over the Capitol. Like Candyman. Yeah. Right. Because a bunch of dudes with hooks for hands are like, fuck America. Right. And like they said, one anonymous Republican aide said, quote, none of us want this to be a priority. I don't think there's any member that wants to serve on this committee. Wait.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Who said that? This is a Republican aide you know who's just giving a quote off the record yeah off the record they're like yeah this is just it's radioactive it's like one of these things that republicans have to do where they have to have the appearance like they aren't just here for the absolute like just deterioration of the country and be like yeah we got to look into that but we can't because it's all it's all theater it's all a way to deflect to delegitimize the actual investigation the actual hearings to say well we didn't participate well what'd you do instead oh nothing but it was it's a sham anyway like they don't there's nothing
Starting point is 00:28:57 that they can get out of this as you said like it's yeah even if they were to try to do something and like bring out experts who were on their political prisoners so just like basically doing doing the most like yeah it's just the performative because that formative they say you know in this article in the daily beast they're talking about how the especially the political prisoner angle is a good talking point for someone running for office because it doesn't necessarily you know it it helps make them look like they're still on their side and even if maybe they didn't vote to overturn the election by calling those people political prisoners it sort of like realigns them to be like no like i get it you know maybe i wasn't doing the things that you were demanding of me but i will i will we will miscategorize them as political prisoners
Starting point is 00:30:06 so I understand the oppression that's happening. Yeah, I mean, it's all designed to shore up their base going into the midterms in an attempt to win back the House, which would then kill these investigations. Mm-hmm. That is, of course, something we don't want to happen. And you have to hope that turnout And that is, of course, something we don't want to happen.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And you have to hope that turnout is the way that it needs to be for these elections to swing the right way. Because it's certainly not going to do anything to combat the voter suppression, aside from being like, hey, man, I guess activists just got to work harder, huh? Right. Yeah. That's an escalation. It's been an escalation and it will continue. Like they will pass laws and then the other side will say, all right, here's here's the loopholes around these laws. And here's how we're going to make sure that we can bypass these things. But that's it's a war of attrition because it's just going to continue happening, you know, and then people are going to feel disenfranchised and things are going to get ugly.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah. I mean, what happens when people truly just are like, fuck all this? Like, what's the point in helping, supporting these people, these clowns who are moving at a snail's pace for just the theater of it all? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:19 It's a war of attrition where the Democrats are not doing the things they need to do to, like, they're not fighting back. They're just kind of letting them make these changes. Well, I mean, I want to give a lot of credit to the Texas Democrats in their state legislature doing what they could. Eventually, it was going to pass, but they were able to forestall it as long as they could,
Starting point is 00:31:41 and they drew a lot of attention to the issue. That's the best they could have done sure the thing that is really problematic is that we can't get any sort of voter right legislation passed right congress yeah because the most that happens all this attention's brought and then all we hear is chuck schumer be like yeah we really got to figure out the filibuster, huh? Yeah. What are we going to do? Text Schumer to 27498 and pledge to pay $10 so that we can fix the filibuster. Yeah, exactly. It's all just campaign finance. It's just how do we get more money out of these people?
Starting point is 00:32:19 How do we dupe these rubes into paying us more money? That's all it is. And they don't care if anything changes. They just want your money. Yeah. Well, it's just easy fundraising. You know what I mean? Because then you don't have to go on the road to actually do a lot of fundraising or maybe the lobbyists aren't packaging your funds well enough for you.
Starting point is 00:32:41 You know, then just do send a couple emails. Get move on on the case every fucking email i get is this is the end of the world dave this is it we're all can we count on you to stand up for democracy i'm sorry am i the fucking president i'm sorry am i the fuck am i the majority leader in the senate my five dollars is gonna do what where is that five dollars gonna go huh yeah you want to tell me what it's going to be for? Send me that clip of Chuck Schumer acting like Tony Soprano, acting like, get out there and crack some fucking skulls
Starting point is 00:33:14 to get this filibuster reform passed, because that's not the energy they have at all. It's just like, he's just sort of like, hey, you better not. You better not. Don't do that. Don't do that. And then it's like, okay, but they don't give that don't do that i'm gonna say okay but they don't give a fuck and then you have people in the senate like diane feinstein who are very clearly
Starting point is 00:33:29 in cognitive decline and people have said like yeah she's pretty like i don't know she has a hard time remembering stuff and we're all just like okay that's fine so the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, is being recalled and might be replaced before she dies? Would she will sooner than later? I think I've talked about this on this show before. But the greatest problem with our society is that people refuse to retire. And I'm talking about rich people,
Starting point is 00:34:01 not normal people. Normal people are like, yeah, I'm going to go to Cancun. I'm going to mow my lawn every morning, drink a nice tea, watch Jeopardy, and go to bed at 8. If you even can retire. Exactly. If you can. If you're able to financially.
Starting point is 00:34:17 But these motherfuckers are just like, I refuse to quit doing my very high-paying, powerful job. Right. are just like, I refuse to quit doing my very high-paying, powerful job. Right. If it's, you know, a Supreme Court justice, if it's a senator, if it's the Speaker of the House, none of these people have any interest in stepping aside for the good of the country. None.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Because that's not their first priority. And Republicans are taking advantage of that. All of those old bastards have stepped aside. Or if you're Mitch McConnell, like you just throw up your hands and say, well, I mean, this is the party. I support the party. This is what I do.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And then all of these ghouls, these very young ghouls like Madison Cawthorn keep popping up out of nowhere. Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, all of these younger people who are amassing power, amassing political influence, and amassing support. Every single day, they're on Fox News all the time. They're constantly being puffed up by the establishment of the Republican Party. And the Democrats are like, AOC, I simply don't agree with her because she's a socialist. Or Ilhan Omar is a Muslim.
Starting point is 00:35:31 And so we need her to back Israel and denounce the PLO or something. Yeah, Rashida Tlaib said the F word. So, I mean, please, everyone, let's not consider them. And like, there's a lot of energy there with a lot of these younger people coming in. Because I didn't see anyone except for Cori Bush really make a fucking stink about the eviction moratorium ending. And she had to really, you know, do what she knew how to do as an organizer and activist. And just said, fucking, I'm going to sleep on the steps if they don't understand what's at stake here because everyone else would rather just go on break and yeah we then i think the media doesn't do a good job of you know giving these
Starting point is 00:36:15 younger politicians the kind of airtime and exposure that they could because you can see it on fox they'll they'll put all of these younger folks on TV and give them what they want. They don't care. As long as you're a good soundbite, they'll put you on TV. But MSNBC is propaganda for various parties, and we don't have to talk about that. But other platforms are not engaging with these people. They're not putting these people front and center. They're not putting their people front and center. They're not putting their issues front and center. But if Matt Gaetz says something ludicrous about, you know, America being under attack from Antifa, that's front page news. That's news,
Starting point is 00:36:57 you know, it trends on Twitter, all of these things that are incredibly unhelpful, but help him to get his message out and to launder his image when he is under investigation and yet he is still in in office he is still treated as a legitimate politician i i can't speak to why the media is so fascinated by young republicans and this idea of, you know, the outrageous things that they say. But they are. And they are so concerned with,
Starting point is 00:37:31 you know, kind of like contrarianism when it comes to any sort of liberal idea, any sort of real liberal idea. Well, because it takes it because it takes the position that they're sort of like this liberal neoliberal ideology that they subscribe to is the default truth. And there's nothing beyond that that could possibly improve it.
Starting point is 00:37:54 So they're not interested in anything that would augment policies or makes things more inclusive. So they're more interested in just defending the position. And the best fodder for that is someone on the right saying something ignorant. And that is the airtime because it's surely not going to be someone who comes on with a very good plan for bail reform or a really good plan for how we can like, you know, create more equitable housing that might actually threaten the status quo. It's easier to just get in your you know outraged by the guys like he compared apartheid to this vaccine man oh my god yeah we have to we have to we have to be
Starting point is 00:38:32 shocked by it and we have to be disgusted by it but we can't do anything about it and that was the the defining trait of the trump presidency was here's this horrible thing that happened can you believe it isn't that sad moving on all right so uh what's going on on tv right now who's winning dancing with the stars or some shit right and and the january 6 commission is a good example of something not being sexy and not being exciting to talk about it is is depressing to talk about. It is ugly and it is unpleasant. And it is a physical manifestation of a lot of very unpleasant truths about American society and how close we are to chaos. Yeah. But the Republicans turn it into a like sexy talking point for their base with, you know, talking about political prisoners. The Democrats are not doing that work.
Starting point is 00:39:32 It doesn't seem like. Well, you can't make it positive. You can't make it. Oh, we need to support our political prisoners. Like you can make Ashley Babbitt a star in death or a martyr because she's not here she can't go on meet the press she can't go on fox news she can just be someone who died and isn't that sad it's playing on sympathy there are no sympathetic figures on the other side to make this feel good because guess what the sympathetic figures are the police right and we don't like them and nancy pelosi and
Starting point is 00:40:07 nancy pelosi yeah like we're not gonna feel bad like yes it is horrible what happened to these people these police officers who were just doing their best some of them at least were doing their best but it is difficult for people to wrap their minds around the kind of like sticky patriotism that would be required to make this a bigger story right it's never going to tug at my heartstrings it's it is a tragedy it's sort of like thinking about the hindenburg disaster like i feel terrible that it happened but i'm not going to be i guess i'm not moved by it. Yeah, like a sick album cover. Yeah, it's really, it's a really great. Like January 6th is going to be like that.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Like some shit from that, like Yost's sick album cover. Baller ass B-roll for something. For TikTok. Yeah, I'm never going to be moved. And that's not because it is not a sad story, but because I'm talking about me as a general person, like the general you,
Starting point is 00:41:05 like you are never going to be moved by this because there isn't like a figure for you to latch on to, to feel sympathy for. It's like a movie or a TV show. You have to have a character who is your protagonist. That is your entry point into the story. There's no, there's nobody for the left in this story.
Starting point is 00:41:23 So it's just like a horrible thing that most establishment democrats want to forget right all right let's move on to uh you know from the rulers of politics to the ruler of the podcast landscape the man himself joe Rogan, defeated COVID by putting it in an arm bar and going to the mat with it. He pegged COVID. Pegged COVID. Then he pegged it. No. So not surprisingly, you know, he threw everything at it.
Starting point is 00:41:58 All the most expensive treatments that money can buy at his case of COVID got better, like most rich people who are able to treat their COVID aggressively tend to. And now he's back claiming that the thing that got him better, surprise, surprises, is the unproven kind of conspiracy theory treatment that he took among many other proven uh treatments yeah yeah just a couple things to point out of his like return and just how many fucking mental pretzels this guy put himself into just speaking he was like yo first he was saying how covet is nothing you know and like it's it's all good or whatever but yet you needed to take regeneron like yet you were at a place where you realized you had to actually take real medications and really you needed to take Regeneron. Like yet you were at a place where you realized you had to actually take real medications and you needed medical treatment.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But you're not going to lean on that. He said COVID was nothing for a, you know, young, able-bodied person, seemingly implying like including himself in that before he got it. And then once he got it, he was all about throwing every single treatment at it like it was the very serious disease that it actually is. Right. And you say you took ivermectin and it's like, oh, that really helped. But you also took monoclonal antibodies like Regeneron. And you're saying, but you're not really pointing to that. He said the media doesn't talk about how I took ivermectin and now I'm better.
Starting point is 00:43:25 said the media doesn't talk about how I took ivermectin and now I'm better. But he's also not saying himself that you actually took an FDA authorized treatment in Regeneron or these monoclonal antibodies. And that may also have been the reason you were doing better. And then he goes on to say, oh, I don't trust the whole vaccine scheme because big pharma, you know what they're trying to do is trying to get rich, man, trying to get you to take these vaccines so they can make more money yet the maker of ivermectin is fucking merc so which big pharmaceutical company are you like i don't even understand he's talking about the farm animal division of merc so it's very different that's more of a scrappy upstart than the human being division of murk i mean right exactly so that storyline is the thing that he has like clung on to because it is like i didn't realize that ivermectin is both like used for horses and farm animals but it's
Starting point is 00:44:19 also used for people not for covet but for like as an anti-par like... As an anti-parasitic drug. Yeah, an anti-parasitic. So he's like, people talk about it being a horse dewormer, but the reason people talk about it being a horse dewormer, by the way, is that people are actually taking their horses... The horse version, yeah. The horse version. Yeah, it's a paste.
Starting point is 00:44:40 There's a problem. But he... So he's like used that as kind of a misdirect to be like, and they're calling it horse warmer, even though I took one that was prescribed by my doctor, which very well he may have. He has access to doctors that 99.9% of the American population does not have access to but then he says he claimed that the reason ivermectin is not being approved is to force vaccines on people like that's the like that's he said you know there's a lot of speculation what so you know you know when he starts off with there's a lot of speculation it's's the Trump equivalent of a lot of people are saying. No, they're not. No, they're not.
Starting point is 00:45:29 One of the speculations involves the emergency use authorization for the vaccines. That in order for there to be an emergency use authorization, there has to be no treatment for a disease. That's not true. But just complete and utter this is where he's you know that's that's his that's his worldview he's gonna have to reinforce it all the time and use whatever loose spurious claims that he can to to back it up because the big thing especially with the ivermectin thing he talked about was like oh that when japan the government said uh they should use it to treat covid not fucking true right it's just there was the chairman of the tokyo medical association cautiously like i guess supported the treatment but the association themselves nor the government
Starting point is 00:46:17 was just like no we're not authorizing that this is what this one guy said out loud at a thing and that turned into this whole social media claim that yes in japan they are using it to treat covet and no yeah well i mean at the end of the day it really is just virtue signaling for a different kind of virtue and that virtue is contrarianism and joe rogan became very rich and very famous by being a contrarian and saying the opposite of what he's supposed to say and that's what spotify paid millions and millions of dollars for is for him to say ah nah that's bullshit and here's why i read this thing on this in this study uh on this website that is just a bunch of letters strung together.com and apparently all the shit you read about uh
Starting point is 00:47:03 eating healthy is bullshit and you can just eat whatever you want or you should just inject uh steroids into your cock and then it'll get really big and awesome like that's all it is it's just it's just idiocracy on a microphone it is just it is it is a hair away from info wars right it is a palatable, more mainstream version of InfoWars. And if you listen to this stuff, you are being given false information, you are being manipulated, and you are being bilked in the same way that he is saying that the pharmaceutical industry is bilking people through the vaccine. He is saying, listen to my show, subscribe to Spotify, buy this merchandise. He's stealing from you, folks.
Starting point is 00:47:49 He's stealing from you every single day by giving you horse shit that you want to hear. That's it. He knows you want to be told that the vaccines are bad, they don't work, that you can just, you know, take some pills that you get from a shady website or, you know, worst case scenario, because you can't get the pills because there's a run on ivermectin and a shortage for people who actually need it. You can go out and you can get the paste from fucking Cabela's or something. That is what it's all about. And you're being you're being taken advantage of.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Yeah. Well, he laughs his ass off and it's like 15 million dollar mansion yeah all of these people telling you not to take the vaccine are rich enough to not take the vaccine if they don't want to yeah or they're living in a completely different reality yeah or they take it and they don't tell you that is not your business right yeah well i mean this is just it uh he's not gonna stop uh people aren't gonna stop listening and it seems like his numbers took a little hit though well they did because yeah they're it's not free to listen to anymore it's it's it's really hard to get someone who is listening to
Starting point is 00:48:58 everything on one platform to switch and so all of these exclusive to Spotify podcasts are seeing a drastic reduction in their listenership. Now, that's not to say that people don't end up going on to YouTube and listening to the show, because I think they're they're pretty a lot of people listen to on YouTube. Yeah. And they can, you know, monetize it pretty easily on YouTube if they have to. So they're still they're doing just fine. There's no problem there. And that's the Internet, man. It's a free for all that you can get your stupid message out anywhere you want. Yeah. And just keep gaining and gaining and gaining. I mean, that's what we see, like whether it be Facebook or Donald Trump or, you know, and you will keep gaining momentum until something stops you.
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Starting point is 00:53:59 I'm not familiar with his work. Dude, Donald Trump one night, sick ass commentary with Don Jr. at the Seminole Hard Rock on the 20th anniversary of 9-11. It's just this one fucking, I just love the way it's being billed. Fight. The digital streaming service carrying the Saturday pay-per-view event announced
Starting point is 00:54:19 that the former president, along with his eldest son, will, quote, offer their perspective throughout the night, including during the headlining fight between Evander and Vitor. I. OK, sure. I mean, that's this is my bigger thing. More than like with all these factors, you got Trump, you got Evander Holyfield and, you know, a fight. Is this going to do Paul Brothers race war pay per view levels of revenue-per-view levels of revenue i don't think so i
Starting point is 00:54:48 don't think so yeah and that's got to hurt for donald trump the paul brothers are the biggest heels in america to use a wrestling term people want to see them lose right yeah and they've booked this they've they've scripted all of this to perfection because every time you think this is the one this motherfucker's going down he's fighting tyron woodley oh he's finished and of course oh wait he withheld his fighting the last couple rounds yeah it just goes to a decision and then he wins because they're gonna wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and wait and draw it out for as long as they can before they finally have to lose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Do you think now? Because a lot of people suspect, obviously, like when he fought Mayweather, they're like, dude, Mayweather could have fucking absolutely like he was knocked out at a certain point. You know what I mean? And like you held him up. And then with Woodley, they're like, he got him a few good times and then looked like he just sort of ceased fighting like towards in the in the later rounds and so a lot of people like these are all they're all just being they're all just getting the check to lose or whatever yeah exactly that will there be someone who stealthily says yeah yeah i'm down for that and just knocks the shit out of him in the ring he's like i went off script sorry
Starting point is 00:56:03 sorry i couldn't do it a lot of money at stake there yeah there's a lot of money at stake there's a lot of contracts that i'm sure are uh done you get sued it's like you weren't supposed to knock him out i think it would actually end up being better like as a wrestling mind as a person who wrote for professional wrestling understands wrestling pretty well if you if you did a thing where you're just like all right so mike tyson i just want you to you know go into it like we planned like we talked about with logan but in like the fourth or fifth round just let let loose just take him down don't kill him but knock him up a little bit put him on his ass have him be knocked
Starting point is 00:56:53 out because then the rematch is even bigger right because you can say oh he went off script i wasn't ready yes it was fake but but this time it's real. Right, right, right. And then you've wiped out all of the naysayers, all of the people saying this is fake. Wrestling is all about the illusion of reality. How do you suspend disbelief in the audience every single week once they've figured out it's fake? Or not fake, but it's predetermined outcomes
Starting point is 00:57:24 because those people hurt each other. They hit each other for real. once they've figured out it's fake. Or not fake, but it's predetermined outcomes. Because those people hurt each other. They hit each other for real. Once you've done that, you have to keep up the illusion so that people buy into it. They spend money. They say, I want to buy the pay-per-view. I want to buy the merchandise.
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm emotionally invested in this thing. Because it's not like watching a movie where you are transported to another place, where you are in a movie theater and it's dark and you can just focus on the story being told or even a tv show where you binge it and you just kind of get lost in it this is this is scripted fighting where oftentimes things happen that defy the laws of physics or boxing now like if you are telling me that Tyron Woodley couldn't knock out Logan Paul.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Was it Logan or Jake? I think it was Logan, right? If you're telling me that, you're lying to me. It was Jake. They're all the same to me. They're like the twins from The Matrix. Reloaded. Like some fucking goopy, pale ghost. They should do that as a tag team match the the guys
Starting point is 00:58:26 from the matrix against the paul brothers and they both have dreadlocks so it's hard to figure out who's who who's more problematic way more problematic yeah i do we don't we don't talk enough about the cultural appropriation in the matrix sequel do we yeah of the ghost twins am i the only one seeing this i'm kidding um anyway yeah like this is this is the perfect way my my plan to get people back on board because i can see the steady loss of interest like okay this is another one where you pull the wool over my eyes once you've made it clear that your shit is not real people are going to start tuning out. So think about it. So then he'll need to get knocked out.
Starting point is 00:59:07 He's going to have to get knocked out and they're going to have to be like, look, it's real. And then you do the rematch and then he wins. And then he knocks out Mike Tyson. And then you do the blow off. You do the third fight.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Right. You get the trilogy. Exactly. It's a rubber match match that is where the real money is is in the rubber match two uh details of this that are intriguing to me one that he's doing this commentary uh the donald trump fight night commentary one is that he's doing it with donald trump jr who he like plainly despises and, I feel like over the course of just like a long like conversation where you're just kind of riffing,
Starting point is 00:59:49 that that will be evident. And also he is really bad at talking about 9-11. Like he, right. He like, he on like just hours after the towers fell, he like bragged about how one of his buildings was now the tallest in downtown manhattan and this is why you put it behind a paywall right only the people dumb enough to order this pay-per-view will see it but oh man i kind of want to watch it because don't do it do not support this this is the worst thing in the entire world you're paying their
Starting point is 01:00:22 legal bills by buying this pay-per-view that's all this is and i'm sure that's why don doju donald jr is involved with this too because we see his sniffling ass on cameo like he's probably looking for anything to be like all right fuck it dad you know it's in florida we barely have to go anywhere and you just say a couple things about how holyfield's a great champion and then uh say that the election was stolen and then uh donate and then we'll be good he went to a mma fight and like they didn't show him and i think he was like pissed off about that like dana white had to like come out and be like sorry like we meant to show him but like there was a camera miscue so for some reason he like really wants to like be be seen as a fight presence.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Well, I mean, he had a run where he was doing shit like that, I feel like, back in the day, like in the 80s or something. Oh, yeah, he would be at WrestleMania every year. The WrestleMania 4 and 5 both took place adjacent to Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. He loves that spotlight. So he's getting back to his roots, and that's good for him. He loves that spotlight. So he's getting back to his roots, and that's good for him. I do wonder, he's going to a crowded indoor facility. In Florida?
Starting point is 01:01:32 In Florida, where mask wearing will not be mandated. Vaccines will not be mandated. Do you think that this motherfucker shows up wearing a mask? think that this motherfucker shows up wearing a mask so one thing that i like i actually think they probably won't even be there because there's a there is a trend of yeah there is a trend of commentate like uh monday night football is adding a commentary track like a place where you can go and watch commentary from eli and peyton manning. But they're just doing it from their garage, their respective garages. Yeah, but you know
Starting point is 01:02:10 he's not afraid of a fucking super smart thing. He's been having them every couple months since he left office. I do think he's going to show up for them. The operative word is in-person commentary. Oh, they did say that? Yeah, the marketing material is full live in-person commentary oh they did say that yeah like that the marketing material is
Starting point is 01:02:27 full live in-person commentary wow okay yes yeah i mean what if yeah he shows up one with a mask and they all get pissed at him for wearing a mask pictures are taken of him with a mask and people get mad or or what if he gets it again i mean he's vaccinated so he's probably gonna be all right not necessarily if there's a bunch of people get that booster positive tested or people who are positive for covid not wearing masks lots of people not lots of people i don't want to spread misinformation, but people are getting breakthrough cases if they are around lots of unvaccinated, positive COVID carriers. For sure. I'm not trying to wish it upon the man.
Starting point is 01:03:17 I would never do such a thing. That would be wrong. But what if it happens? There's just a lot of speculations around it. One of the speculations. I heard people are saying speculations. I've heard people are saying that if Donald Trump were to show up to this event in Florida, the chances are good that he could get COVID again. Yeah, he is an elderly man. I mean, that's where Joe Rogan got it. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Fucking around in Florida. That is what I heard. That's what I heard. There's a lot of speculations. People keep saying these things on television. of florida and that is what i heard that's what i heard there's a lot of speculations people keep saying these things on television got tucker carlson over here in stories and it's concerning to me okay isn't it concerning don't you feel like your world is falling apart sometimes i feel like i don't have a partner sometimes i feel like my only friend is the city i live in the city of angels
Starting point is 01:04:05 yes sorry by that i of course mean the united states of america yes let's talk andre 3000 real quick we kind of touched on it yesterday but just to get into the specifics of the controversy over the weekend drake leaked an unreleased track from donda featuring andre 3000 and it was like a it was a track on which kanye like this is drake and but andre andre's verse does not dis drake and he's come out to say like he doesn't give a shit about any of this bullshit yeah it's that track life life of the party and i guess it was only played at a very specific private event which is like the only iteration or the only place where this version
Starting point is 01:04:58 was heard but there's a the andre verse is about mothers you know yet the album version comes out and it's just a fucking diss track and he says he comes this is his sort of quote on it about the how the whole thing went down he said a few weeks ago kanye reached out about making me uh having me be a part of the donda album i was inspired by his idea to make a musical tribute to his mom it felt appropriate to me to support the Donda concept by referencing my own mother who passed away in 2013. We both shared that loss. I thought it was a beautiful choice to make a clean album, but unfortunately, I didn't know that was the plan before I wrote and recorded my verse. It was clear to me that an edited, quote, clean format of the
Starting point is 01:05:40 verse would not work without having the raw original also available. So sadly, I had to be omitted from the original album release. The track I received and wrote to didn't have the disverse on it. And we were hoping to make a more focused offering for the Donda album. But I guess things happen like they're supposed to. It's unfortunate that it was released this way. And two artists that I love going back and forth. And then he said, I love Drakeke i love i want to work with kendrick i want to work with jay-z tyler blah blah blah but yeah that sounds like a very kanye thing to do this is gonna happen more often where he brings people in to his
Starting point is 01:06:18 process and he says i'm gonna do this thing it's gonna be great and he's got those crazy eyes like his eyes are huge and he's like i'm gonna do this thing. It's going to be great. And he's got those crazy eyes. His eyes are huge. And he's like, I'm going to do this thing. It's going to be awesome. And then he changes his mind two weeks later. And he's like, ah, I've got to go to the Mercedes-Benz Superdome. Or not the Superdome. But I've got to go to Mercedes-Benz Stadium. And I've got to live inside of the tunnel.
Starting point is 01:06:40 And I've got to just come up with a new idea. Because the thing I did before sucked. And it's like okay You're gonna burn a bunch of material. You're gonna burn a bunch of talent like Andre thousand who's gonna be pissed off He's gonna be you know diplomatic about it like he was in his statement, but you think he's happy That this song was associated with him shitting on Drake? No. Of course not.
Starting point is 01:07:08 That's not good for him. That's not good for anybody. But there's like probably 70 versions of Donda just floating around. We're going to hear all of them one day when he dies. Right. Because they're going to be like, oh, here's the new Holocube edition of Donda featuring all the songs that were rejected from the album.
Starting point is 01:07:25 This is the good one. This is the good one. This is the good one. I prefer version number 29 because it's got that beep, beep, beep, beep, beep part. I really love that beep, beep, beep, beep part. Can't get enough.
Starting point is 01:07:39 If the album is meant to honor your mother, why are you wasting your breath trying to come at this other rapper? Because it's not about honoring his mother. Or even his own mother. You know what I mean? Like, even for Donda. You know, it's just like a whole thing.
Starting point is 01:07:54 I'm just confused at, like, the intent. But again, this was not a focused album. So I don't know why I'm being like, what is going on over there? Not a focused mind making the album. That first track does say her name like 25 times. So that is kind of impressive. Okay, so what's the confusion?
Starting point is 01:08:12 I'm sorry. Yeah. There's also like no, not that many, if any, women featured on the album. What a surprise. Didn't he try to get Trump to show up to one of these events that he did? Yeah, that's who he was trying to marry. In that marriage thing.
Starting point is 01:08:32 He had to settle for Kim. Yeah, that's a shame. Instead of getting Trump, he got Marilyn Manson. Yeah, right. Honor your mother with Marilyn Manson. What has this guy marilyn man what does this guy gotta do what does this guy gotta do for people to be like enough i've had it he makes the music that people are mostly frustrated by he does all of these these stunts that are designed not just to
Starting point is 01:09:00 transgress but to actively upset people things that are offensive to people like the big Yeezy stans though they're all like you know pre Ye and all that other stuff like it was always the battle cry I was like I can excuse everything that he does because his message is about believing in yourself
Starting point is 01:09:19 no it's about believing in Kanye West no right but I'm saying but that's how the supporters like who are like the most, you know, diehard defenders have to sort of repurpose whatever they believe the message is. So like I'm here because I'm here for the uplifting pep talks in the form of his lyrics. Yeah. He's like T.D. Jakes, but he's a rapper, huh? Is that what he is? T.D. Jakes who sells uh 80 gilded t-shirts with balenciaga yeah yeah and hey dude you could buy a weird bulletproof vest with his mom's name on it cool it just bums me out because i see all you know fashion writers fawning over it
Starting point is 01:09:59 and i see music journalists fawning over it. And I see cultural critics taking it seriously. Like, oh, he built a version of his house in the stadium. Oh, what does that mean? Oh, Kim and him are pretending to get married again. Oh, boy, what is that? It's all narcissism, and it's all designed to take money from you. Like, this is the same thing as Joe Rogan. It is just provocation for the sake of it.
Starting point is 01:10:26 It's contrarianism for the sake of it. And it's designed to part your money from your pocket. Right. That's... Oh, man. We've been saying from very early on in this show that it seems like having the narcissistic personality disorder is the cheat code to modern America
Starting point is 01:10:44 because of social media. Yeah, it is your ticket to success. If I have any shame, any shame, any empathy, any respect. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:52 For other human beings. I'm fucked. I'm not going to succeed. That's why no one knows what it means, but it's provocative. Yeah. Right. Let me ponder this.
Starting point is 01:11:01 I think he told us before. No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. And that's been the guiding principle. I blame Will Ferrell. Well, Dave, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you? I am at Dave underscore Schilling on Twitter.
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Starting point is 01:12:00 it's this is the best run of episodes we've ever done. Also, I have a monthly column in the LA Times style section that you should check out. As I said earlier, I wrote about skinny jeans and why they are being phased out of our culture. And before that? Dead hats! I was talking about dead hats! Yeah, this was really
Starting point is 01:12:20 serious for Miles to read about his culture and his beliefs and his religion in print for once. Yeah, been validated. That's my job. I'm here to validate everybody, especially you. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Okay, so this is a tweet that isn't necessarily funny, but it brought a little tear to my eye.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Bob Odenkirk tweeted a photo of himself being made up to look like Saul Goodman. Yet again, he said, Back to work on Better Call Saul. So happy to be here and living this specific life surrounded by such good people. By the way, this makeup is, this is makeup pro Sherry Montesanto
Starting point is 01:12:59 making me not ugly for shooting. I just was really glad that he's back at it. Yeah. A lot of people were were really worried about him and uh yeah he means a lot to a lot of people and so i'm glad that he's back out and making stuff and hopefully taking care of himself yeah he's like quietly just had having one of the great careers of like our. Not that he's our same age, but of our generation of
Starting point is 01:13:28 pop culture that we grew up on. Somehow without being a horrible narcissist. Right. How did he pull that off? He doesn't have it. He doesn't have narcissistic personality disorder, and he's still successful. So let that be a lesson to you kids. You don't have to be
Starting point is 01:13:44 like Kanye West or Donald Trump. You to be like kanye west or donald trump you can be like bob odenkirk or me a great white guy with heart problems yeah exactly uh miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying uh find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also the other podcast for 20 Day Fiance. Let's see. Quick shout out to over the weekend, I met some Zeitgang at a social gathering. Steve and Maddie, thank you so much for complimenting me in public.
Starting point is 01:14:15 I felt very validated. So shout out to y'all. I didn't hear about this. I know you. I'm like, come on now. Now, please hand me some tequila. Shove a gun into your ribs. Over this way. Oh, shit. She's like, please, hand me some tequila. Did you expect them to shove a gun into your ribs? Over this way.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Oh, shit. She's like, yeah, you're about to be a footnote in history, motherfucker. I'm like, oh, fuck. But anyway, shout out to y'all. Really great talking to you. And I want to say some tweets that I like. First one is from Bronna C. Titley, at Bronna C. Titley, tweeting, wow, okay, unfollowing now. Was a big fan of her house made of sweets, was not aware she used it to lure children into her oven to cook and eat them. Love that structure of outreach tweet.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Another one is from Bond at Gresham 2X. He tweeted, I broke down at my great grandma funeral at the podium when I found out nobody got her red velvet cake recipe. out of my great grandma funeral at the podium when I found out nobody got her red velvet cake recipe. That shit hit me in my fucking heart. Because let me tell you, as somebody who has like family recipes, I did everything I could to document, especially my grandfather's barbecue sauce recipe. And I'm telling you, if you have things like this in your family, do what you have to do to preserve these things. And I know it can be frustrating when like older people are like, no, just put a little bit of this and a little bit of that. You're like, I don't what you have to do to preserve these things. And I know it can be frustrating when like older people are like, no, just put a little bit of this and a little bit of that. You're like, I don't, you have to put down number values and just tape them on your iPhone so you can watch.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Or if they do it, be like, okay, give me that thing. And then you can weigh it and say, that's the amount. But please preserve your family history, especially through recipes, because even if that was a joke, I felt that one. and the last one is from miles clee at miles clee said steve martin saw the opportunity for upper west side boomer zoomer murder comedy streaming deal left open by woody allen's forced retirement and he seized it you just got banjoed bitch i don't know if i like that show but we'll talk about that another time yeah i have not watched it yet. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Chase at NotChaseLions tweeted, My dentist said I grind in my sleep.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Damn, he's real for that. No days off, baby. No days off. Team NoSleep. And Schweitz at SchweitzA tweeted, The Fugitive, but every time Harrison Ford says my wife, it's Borat's voice. I didn't kill my wife.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Get that super cut. Let's get that popping off on TikTok ASAP. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might
Starting point is 01:16:54 enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy today this is a track by l michael's affair they're one of my favorite instrumental bands and I've gone out on a few of their tracks. You know, famously, you might know them from their, you know, full like, like instrumental band treatments of Wu-Tang tracks. But this one is one of their new singles. It's called Masterclass. And I really like it because it has like this David Axelrod kind of like it feels like something that would be sampled by like Mobb Deep or DJ Premier. But it's just they do a really great job of like replicating vintage sounds and things like that. So it's an easy listen and it's a little head nodder.
Starting point is 01:17:30 So take this one, Masterclass by L. Michaels. Damn, I thought David Axelrod was an Obama administration official. He is. There's many David Axelrods, but the true GOAT is David Axelrod, the jazz musician. There you go. And American composer. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio.
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