The Daily Zeitgeist - Jordan Was Quarantining In the 90s, Is THIS Our King? 5.5.20

Episode Date: May 5, 2020

In episode 623, Jack and Miles are joined by quar-bae Jamie Loftus to discuss Mike Pence admitting he should have worn a mask at the Mayo Clinic, Trumps new war on surgical masks, coronavirus data, Th...e Last Dance recaps, a Florida man living in Disney World, and more!FOOTNOTES: Pence Admits He Should’ve Worn A Mask During Mayo Clinic Tour Trump World Turns on the True COVID Villain: Surgical Masks US coronavirus data is at odds with Trump’s push to get the economy back up and running 34 days of pandemic: Inside Trump’s desperate attempts to reopen America Coronavirus Live Updates: Trump Administration Models Predict Near Doubling of Daily Death Toll by June She Predicted the Coronavirus. What Does She Foresee Next? ‘The Last Dance’ Episode 5 recap: Michael Jordan was Kobe Bryant’s ‘big brother’ ‘The Last Dance’ Episode 6 recap: Being Michael Jordan was ‘an impossible task’ Alabama man arrested for camping out in coronavirus-shuttered Disney World WATCH: Matt Martians Ft. Steve Lacy - Pony Fly Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. And Lincoln.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Fuck Lincoln because he clearly endorses President Trump. Based on that interview at the feet of the Lincoln Memorial. Hey, man. He's getting crushed out here, man. I haven't been treated this bad since this guy.
Starting point is 00:02:56 No one. No one's been treated. It's Tuesday, May 5th, 2020. Cinco de Mayo. Happy Cinco de Mayo to you all. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'm not on my way.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I know that I'm not going. I'm not on my way. Staying home till I don't know when. Goodbye all plans due to Corona. Won't see me soon unless it's a zoom call that is courtesy of philly nuts it is me and julio and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray and here i go again on my own. Jogging down this empty road, I'm all alone. I could live, but I prefer to leave my home.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And I'm making good time. Six feet ahead and behind. Here I go again. Thank you to Christy Yamaguchi, made Crispy Meme Donut, inspired by the tweet of Hannah Soltis. This is just a remix is a remix of a remix. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:04:19 A remix is a remix of a remix. Exactly. A powerful collaboration. I'm actually just got that tatted. When it heals up, I'll show everybody, but I just got that. A remix is a remix of a remix whoa uh well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by today's choir co-host and guest uh she is the hilarious the talented lil zam herself jam, Jamie Loftus! Okay, bear with me.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I don't know how this song goes, really. Okay. Staying inside in the world today takes everything you got. Feeling trapped with all your worries sure don't help a lot. I know that you'd like to get away. Am I even remotely close? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Well, you should stop before you go because there's a global quarantine. So just, you, you have to be where everybody plays board games. There you go. Okay, that's where it, okay, I'm sorry. That's, Taylor Fleming wrote that and and I fucked it up, because I have... You killed it.
Starting point is 00:05:29 I've only seen the cheers that Frasier's in. You ignore all others. Yeah. What does that mean, the cheers that Frasier's in? Well, the episodes of cheers that the character Frasier appears in, and then every episode of Frasier. Oh, got it. How many times was that character on Cheers?
Starting point is 00:05:50 A lot? Was it? Most. Quite a bit. I had to watch a lot of Cheers. I mean, I guess it's not true that I've seen every Frasier, but the only episodes I've seen Frasier's been in. Right, right, right. That was my primary. But if they had given you an AKA that started,
Starting point is 00:06:06 hey, baby, I hear the blues are calling, you would have nailed it. I would have, and I would have done vibrato. You would have bowed it. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, note for our songwriters out there. To all composers out there, all Frasiers, welcome. Well, there's a, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:21 We were already improv-ing some great songs before this, but I think the Frasier one is ripe for COVID parody. Should we share it with them? Yes. I don't know. We were just somehow. It was really good. We were talking about the Cheers theme song,
Starting point is 00:06:38 and I slowly somehow made it into a thing about hanging out with people who were doing a bunch of cocaine. Yeah. made it into a thing about hanging out with people who are doing a bunch of cocaine um yeah you know hey buddy you got a second to hear this pilot script i got yeah it makes not much sense but it's about a weird robot and i think the thing is you want to just anyway there's things where everybody goes your name everybody's on cocaine. Look, let's- That's based on Sam Esmail getting Mr. Robot going, wasn't it? Exactly, right? Wouldn't you like to-
Starting point is 00:07:11 Wouldn't you like this? Would you please read this script I'm writing? It's about a weird robot. Sorry, look, this is where we're at. In an After Hours episode that I wrote, I talked about my theory that cheers is like actually the subjective perspective of the drunk people at the bar. Oh. Because it's like well lit and everybody's funny and everybody is good looking and all their jokes land.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And I feel like real cheers, objective cheers is a much more depressing bar. Right. It's true. Yeah. The tourist bar is also very depressing. Yeah, it is. It is very depressing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's a tourist bar in Boston, right? On the Common? Yeah, the only place worse than the tourist bar is the actual cheers that your uncle will bring you to and get in your face and be like, this is the actual cheers. That's also that I was based on.
Starting point is 00:08:14 That's the actual cheers. What are the regulars like at the actual cheers? Uncles saying that it's the actual cheers. Right, right, right. Got it. I don't know what it was like when it was not uncle, pre-uncles. Talking shit about like Patrick Waugh or something in there.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Patrick, oh, I mean, let's not talk shit about Patrick Waugh. Not in my house. Yeah, please don't. Be careful. We're going to have a call-in episode with your dad. Pirate default. Great pull. Careful, thank you the theme song from cheers by the way like the original has a uh part of the a verse that's about suicide uh that they cut out of the i knew that there's
Starting point is 00:08:58 there's a bunch of like theme songs that are secretly like kind of sad. The lyrics to the cat dog theme song are also very kind of sad. Right. Yeah, there's a whole extra verse to it. Where's that other thing we were talking about how there's a weird transphobic line in that Cheers theme song too? How long is this song?
Starting point is 00:09:22 It's long. It's like someone's like, and you find out your wife's a man or some weird long it's like someone's like and you find out your wife's a man or some weird line like that we're like what the fuck are these other lyrics in this song? like written by a drunk person or something
Starting point is 00:09:34 in the early 20th century but yeah there's a verse where it's like and you're just trying to get away from your wife cause things are a bummer and it's either this or kill yourself oh it's like, and you're just trying to get away from your wife because things are a bummer, and it's either this or kill yourself. Oh, it's Your Husband Wants to Be a Girl. That's the line that Gary Portnoy sings. Your husband wants to be a girl.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Walls. Anyway. Anyways, guys, here we are. Here we are. In our own version of cheers right this is
Starting point is 00:10:08 what if this is the show you guys oh my god Jack keeps saying this every day this is our cheers people will people will write
Starting point is 00:10:18 yeah they will write theories about this podcast like it was written from the perspective of three people who actually had the things of value to say um all right uh jamie we're gonna get to know you a little bit better we're gonna
Starting point is 00:10:32 check in with you we haven't checked in with you personally for a little while so uh we are gonna find out how you're doing uh but first we uh are gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. The thrilling finale of Maskgate, where Mike Pence basically admitted he was wrong about something, which is apparently something people in the Trump administration can do. Yeah, I did not realize that. Trump has turned his corner on how he wants to message around covet 19 um so we're going to talk about that uh as well as the new fema models which are saying uh things aren't looking good for reopening uh things are looking the opposite of good uh and also their strategy of uh blame china that seems to be i i don't know what the end game is I'm
Starting point is 00:11:28 very scared of what the end game is I guess we're going to talk about an article where someone talks to a public health expert about what the next year is going to look like we're going to talk about last dance episodes five and six or I am going to describe them to you guys uh we're gonna talk about the guy in florida who got busted for camping on discovery island which was a a resort i guess which we'll we'll talk about that very interesting it's every person's every person's dream when they're a kid they're like what if i snuck into the amusement park when no one was there uh but then we'll explain why it wasn't so cool for him uh but first jamie we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that's
Starting point is 00:12:17 revealing about who you are friend uh well i i've been googling umling Ty Warner a lot lately. He's like a fixation of mine most recently in the choir. Ty Warner is the guy who made all the Beanie Babies. And I was not familiar with his story. There's only like one book written about Beanie Babies, but I got it and I read it. Oh, really? Yeah, it is like the wildest story. Like Ty Warner, it was just like this strange, mean man
Starting point is 00:12:55 who got too much plastic surgery and he kept, you know, he was going around shaking his fist, being like the beanbags, the beanbags. And then he like becomes a billionaire and there's it's just it's like it is i highly recommend the book i was reading called it was called the big beanie bubble and if you want to get really worked up about something that doesn't matter in quarantine it's like it's such a wild book like you you would guess i thought that like i assumed that beanie babies would have just been like a focus grouped like uh just kind of like a corporate
Starting point is 00:13:29 endeavor right but it was the project of one unstable person named ty with a vision with a vision who wanted his little name in little tags with hearts on them everywhere he's like a hotelier now or something like that's the new thing yeah he has a bunch of hotels he's actually been pretty well it's a mixed bag his ty warner and covet 19 it's a mixed bag i was gonna say i wonder what does that intersection look like on the intersection of beanie babies and covet 19 as is there's more than you would think the there's well warner like opened one of his hotels for free lodging for first responders which is great so that's good good on him for that the downside is that he released a really creepy beanie baby with a very ominous like you know how they all have little poems yeah yeah um so okay he
Starting point is 00:14:27 released a beanie baby called hope and it's a little bear and it's praying it's praying for covid 19 so far i'm on board okay it's saying please god stop covid 19 here's the here's the poem in comic sans but that's that's just and this is what's written on the inside of the tag? This is on the little tie tag because he's an egomaniac. Okay, so hope. When you go to sleep tonight, pray everything will be all right. And if you keep hope in your heart, we'll stay together and never part. I feel like the end implies that someone has died.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah. A little bit. It's like a stalker talking about somebody they're about to murder. We'll never be apart. There's a lot of different ways to come at the praying COVID-19 beanie baby. I don't love it. I appreciate the intent. I don't love it.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Just a second ago, I was trying, I was, I remembered that there's like a, I know like the Ty Warner name popped up in the context of hotels. I'm like, wait, that's the same guy, right? And I looked it up. It is, yeah. The fucking website for Ty Warner hotels and resorts,
Starting point is 00:15:40 it like autoplays some shitty MIDI pianos. I don't know, earlier it kind of bled into my mic and I had to mute my computer. I was merely just trying to look at what the properties that he owns were and it like forced some shit music onto me. But, you know, look at old Ty Warner making it work for him.
Starting point is 00:15:56 He is still America's 52nd richest person at 4.5 billion net worth and he is 62 and for some reason they include marital status single ladies well there's a whole thing with with the don't okay to all the zeitgeist listeners don't date ty warner no don't do it don't do it he just do you remember the beanie baby patty the platypus no of course well we all remember well guess what he named that after his ex-girlfriend because he thought she was mean and he thought she was a mean old platypus and he is like patty so what what ty warner would do with the women he would be in relationships with is he would do like that i i'm trying to think of
Starting point is 00:16:44 another example of this but i feel like it happens where he would never in relationships with, is he would do like that. I'm trying to think of another example of this, but I feel like it happens, where he would never marry them so that they would never be entitled to any part of the Beanie Baby fortune. Keep them at a legal arms distance. Exactly. But then would always make them work for him,
Starting point is 00:16:59 but not in an official enough capacity to give them financial independence so that they couldn't leave him. It like pretty fucked up so like he like treated people yeah like you're gonna run our ideas team right it's not an official job and right like so basically if they break up with him they're like left with nothing but they are also masterminding the beanie Babies pyramid scheme and the whole, I don't know. It's interesting and fucked up. I've been thinking a lot about Ty Warner.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I'm like, I want someone to make a TV show. I don't know who would play Ty Warner. He's a freaky looking guy. Who's a freaky looking guy? So many. There's plenty. Plenty out there. So many to pick from. Who played the character who got a little bit too much plastic surgery and behind the candelabra
Starting point is 00:17:47 because that feels about right. He kind of looks like the Martin Short plastic surgeon character. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:55 A little bit. That's a good call. Anyways, Time Warner. Anyways, that's going to be a very good biopic at some point
Starting point is 00:18:02 with, oof. God willing. Veryof. God willing. Very dark. God willing. Yeah, because he would look at them and he would be like, no, it's eyelashes are all wrong
Starting point is 00:18:13 and make them take a beanie baby back. He was truly an artiste in his own mind. He was a tyrant. He was so horrible. That's so funny. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, I think is, well,
Starting point is 00:18:30 pitting your animals against each other has been fun. We've started at, not like in a scary way. Yeah, not fighting them, just in like a pride way. We've started a behavioral contest in the house where it's a son of the day contest.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And whoever was the best son at the end of the day gets a point on the board. And whoever gets to 10 points first gets a little treat. Gets a water. Wait, so what is... It's more for me than it is for them. So how do you... Are there challenges throughout the day
Starting point is 00:19:03 where to the victor go the spoils that you can assess which is the better pet of the day yeah well yeah because now i basically look at them all day long so it's it mainly goes to whichever whichever of them fucks up less we'll get the point like for example yesterday sunny shit next to the bed. So that docks him some points. Oh, okay. But if the cat messes up worse, then Sonny can still shit in the house and win the day. It depends on who's worse. Got it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Is there a board where they can track their progress? Or is that board inside your mind? No, I got a little... It's actually a little a big lemon that is supposed to be it was like mugs her lemonade marketing and so that's where we keep the scores and right now it's uh flea the cat is leading five to four but it's pretty tight okay wow it's pretty still time though still time, it's the most interesting thing about my life right now. And then something that is underrated to watch on television is The Dress-Up Gang on TBS,
Starting point is 00:20:12 which they finally just released all of, but it's a really, really, really good sketch show. The Dress-Up Gang? The Dress-Up Gang. It rules. It's so good. I saw some of the episodes a year, and they waited forever to release it, but now it's out, and it's so good I like saw I saw some some of the episodes like a year and they kept they waited forever to release it but now it's out and it's really funny and it's yeah awesome uh what is something you think is overrated sourdough starter kits grow up oh enough grow up oh
Starting point is 00:20:39 have you have you baked a loaf though? Have you baked one? I'll know that I've really gone off into another world. If I even learn what a starter dough, sour dough, if I know what it looks like, I'm on the wrong track in my life. I don't want to know what it looks like. I don't want to know how it works. I don't like seeing Jake Gyllenhaal doing it. I don't want to know. I don't want to eat it. I got all worked up about it yesterday. But yeah, I don't want to know anything about the sourdough. I saw Jake Gyllenhaal doing it in a YouTube clip, and it made me upset. Yeah. It's weird how we're even finding quarantine activities that
Starting point is 00:21:23 we're somehow relegating to like basicness where it's like yeah right now if you're basic you're making banana bread and sourdough okay but it's also like everyone's just sort of like we're trying to do something but we still like even though we're all in our houses we're still trying to create like a hierarchy of activities still to be like actually bread smoking weed it's like also don't listen to a word i say because i'm like yeah i'm doing a friendly competition with my cat and my dog to see who shits on my stuff list so take that if i start making food people can eat i'm on the wrong track I need to take a look at my life if I haven't 3d printed pvc armor for my pets uh then something's really going wrong well I'm less bothered by like bread of people like that are like right it's like mainly celebrity bread I don't know something about
Starting point is 00:22:18 the celebrity bread celeb bread does celeb bread I'm just it just rubs me the wrong way I don't know what it is i was talking about it with my dad on the phone yesterday and then he he went on like a different tangent that also made no sense where he was like well my father used to deliver 500 loaves of wonder bread a day and if everyone started making their own bread he'd be screwed but if that's a moot point because he's dead right that's a good point there are no and also i don't think we're even close to becoming a society where people are home making their own bread i don't think we've put wonder bread out of business dude america is built on like defanging people and taking away the skills that make them less
Starting point is 00:23:03 reliant on like consumption. Like it's, it's built that way. Don't worry. Nobody's, nobody's going to try and learn how to make white bread all of a sudden. But my, my grandfather ate a loaf of white bread a day. No. Yeah. In his chair.
Starting point is 00:23:16 And then he died at 64. Do you think the two could be connected? Wait, he would eat an, no, are you, are you serious? He would eat an entire loaf of like. That was his food for the day? No, there was other food as well. He was a pretty big guy. He died when I was very little, but that's the family lore. He worked for Wonder Bread and at the dog track.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Between jobs, he would eat a loaf of bread. Wow. And eat a dog. And then eat a dog after that job. Eat a greyhound. With a bunch of bedding stubs. Yeah. I do wonder if some of this
Starting point is 00:23:51 self-sufficiency, making stuff from home is part of America's collective unconscious realizing fuck capitalism. Maybe. I don't know. That could be nice. I also was going to say that you said that it's not bad to make food people can eat,
Starting point is 00:24:09 but if you change the punctuation and you're making food people, that gets weird. That's usually a sign that you've been inside too long. I think bread offers people a thing. If you're not normally creative it gives you the same satisfaction any creative person has in that you you're working on something and there's an outcome fairly quickly that you can assess and it gives you feedback and then you can begin iterating like on your loaf you're like oh okay so i gotta do this it's like i think it's just it helps people feel like you're fucking making some shit.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Because I know I've had that urge too. I'm even like, fucking give me a Lego set or some shit. You're always iterating on your loaf. I've always said that about you. Yeah, exactly. Iterating on loaves, the new EP from Miles Gray. Jamie, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Okay, so this is also a food-related thing. people think is true you know to be false okay so this is also a food related thing uh a myth is that if you make the food smaller on purpose you'll eat less of the food i've been experimenting with this we've been experimenting with this in the home where so my boyfriend's been making cookies like bait like basic you know, nothing wild, but just cookies. And then we had a brilliant idea while we were trying to stop our animals from shitting on our stuff. We were like, what? Maybe we'd eat less cookies if we made the cookies really small.
Starting point is 00:25:38 And then it turns out you just eat the same amount of cookies and you feel worse because you feel like you ate 12 cookies. Ate more cookies. Yeah. Turns out our stomachs just don't resolve to numerical values. I thought about that. But I had three teeny ones, stomach, hello, feel like it's expanded. I really went into it with some Polly Pocket logic of like, this is just as good as a regular doll, but it's very small.
Starting point is 00:26:02 But you get the same amount of joy from it. I tried to apply that logic to cookies, and it didn't work. Have you tried anything else? Or cookies, you're one and done. You're like, all right, tried it. We're done there. Well, the nice thing about the small cookies
Starting point is 00:26:15 is that they're fun, and I like them. So we're going to keep them small. But we're not going to try to regulate the amount. What are we, like quarter size? What are we, like little famous amos i'll grab one during the break they're pretty they're pretty small some of the cookie crisp size or how small we're talking that small i would say about about not longer than a thumb oh okay small cookies okay and you're taking these from like the prefab uh cookie dough that
Starting point is 00:26:44 you buy the store and just like just making it into little smaller balls? Yeah, make little, little tiny cookies. Hell yeah. Put them in the cookie jar, see how long they last. Yeah. Do they cook quicker? Do they bake fast? They cook a lot.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Well, yeah, that's another problem is you can get a lot of cookies much faster. Because they do cook faster. You said that with such glee in your eye. But that's the thing, man. Here's the thing you need to know. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
Starting point is 00:27:41 President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 you get your podcasts and we're back and mike pence that there was an evolution of this story that should have been fairly straightforward uh it shouldn't even have been a thing that happened it should have been a thing where the mayo clinic was like hey bruh we're all wearing masks because sick people are here and yeah uh and instead he chose to go go raw uh and put everyone at risk yeah so the the his response to it though has evolved over time yeah where are we right now it went into first step was everyone was like what is this photo of mike pence looking at someone getting treatment for covid19 and talking to him with no mask or any kind of ppe on while every other person including the person he is speaking to has a mask has a mask then he comes out and says you know i wanted to look them in the eye and let them know like you know there's leaders here and basically
Starting point is 00:32:19 the whole thing is i get tested all the time and i don't have it. So I'm not going to, I don't have any kinds of anything. So I don't need condoms, fool. You don't get it. I'm pure. I'm clean. And then people were like, that's a stupid, stupid reason. Then mother. Also your eyes are in your mouth, clearly, which is weird.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Then mother had to come. Karen Pence had to interject as well and just basically be like it's fine i don't know what the deal is he's not like everything was done anyway just piling on even more and more and then we've come full circle because after the a segment on fox he basically copped to it very like they're like you know what about this thing at the Mayo Clinic and he just said you know i didn't think it was necessary but um i should have worn a mask at the Mayo Clinic and said it pretty yeah just pretty straightforward I mean and it was like yeah no shit and now I'm like Pence 2020 Pence 2020 row that's how low the bar is it really is that's like whoa what that's not even the bare minimum to admit you should have done something
Starting point is 00:33:21 that's where it is now a week later like. That's not even the bare minimum. That's how starved we are. But I was so thrilled to see it. I know. I really feel like I'm a hostage at this point because I really have genuine affection for Mike Pence for admitting that
Starting point is 00:33:39 he was wrong about something. That's the role that When George W. bush took out his panties for the first time we were like yeah at least it's not a war crime it's like well it's just a painting of one uh i think like when you look at just sort of this mass gate and just the general discourse around masks now like it all kind of it's all part of a bigger narrative about the mask and are you know the rights rejection of reality that there could be something larger than them that is completely out of their control that not even white supremacy could cure um and
Starting point is 00:34:19 when you look at just the quotes right about all of the luminaries of the right and what they have to say about masks. Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh says, it's clear that the mask is a symbol of fear. And when you see various people suggesting that we may now have masks as part of our public lives for the rest of our lives. Oh, why? Okay. Because of your safety, fucking idiot. Laura Ingram goes on to say, quote,
Starting point is 00:34:48 the masks, they're kind of a constant reminder. You see the mask and you think you're not safe. You're not back to normal, not even close. So everyone is sort of using, it's like, this is the left sphere tactic to try and convince us that we're all at risk, even though there's plenty of evidence to show that we are all at risk. And some people exponentially more. I have a quick anecdote about I got tested the other day for all you test heads.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And you were going to get Wendy's after. I ended up getting, bravely, I ended up getting Wendy's before. And I was like, hey, I bet this line's going to be pretty long. And? And I was right. It was pretty long. But so we're, I mean, we're very fortunate in L.A. County to have been, I think, one of the first, if not the first county to get testing for asymptomatic people as well. So it's not perfect.
Starting point is 00:35:47 asymptomatic people as well um so it's it's not perfect there's still limited accessibility to it in terms of like it's a drive-through system so you have to have access to a car we were lucky to get a loaned car uh but we signed up we got an appointment two days later i was worried because the line of cars was a mile long but we got all the way through the line and uh did everything in less than an hour it was just a swab of the inside of the mouth i was scared because i thought that they were going to do the skull one fully skull fucked yeah uh but you don't get skull fucked it's just a very like a light dystopian experience where you drive through and they give you a little swab and a little thing of solution the person in a hazmat suit talks you through it to make sure you don't fuck it up somehow and then you you slip it through the window and uh then in theory they'll call me in a couple days and let me know in theory did you do the wise thing and save some
Starting point is 00:36:35 of your wendy's for after so you have a little treat after a couple bites or you full-on smanged your wendy's before you even got there i'm an adult. I saved my Frosty and some fries. What if they call you back and they're like, the only thing we tell is you're positive for Wendy's. Could be a test inconclusive. There were chunks of fry
Starting point is 00:36:58 in there. You're not supposed to eat 20 minutes before. You had to time it just right. Close call. Just right. But it worked. But so if that testing becomes available in more areas,
Starting point is 00:37:13 which I hope it does, I recommend it. It was a painless experience and I got to go to Wendy's. Well, we'll be on the edge of our seat waiting to hear your results. I hope you're healthy are you are you symptom free yeah yeah we were uh symptomatic gang exactly since 92 baby all right well let's talk about how mike pence's boss is dealing with this current stage of the coronavirus situation. We talked last week about how he was real mad about some polling around his reelection prospects and just lost his shit on his entire staff. Threatened illegal action against his campaign.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, threatened to sue his staff. And now he is like doing a thing where he's like just putting a shiny spin on, uh, the news and how we're getting over this and the country's going to open back up and be better than ever. Like, I don't think this is going to be a sustained thing since he changes so frequently and just like a different, uh, article on Fox or the New York Times can like set him off in a new direction. But this seems like the direction he's going right now.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Well, yeah, because trying to point the finger at every other person just wasn't sticking. Like they're still trying with China. That one hasn't ended. But you remember the World Health Organization was in the crosshairs earlier. That wasn't really sticking with people when they came back with receipts. And like, we've been telling you. What are you talking about? He can't blame the intelligence community because they've also been telling him. So now it just has to be have to control the optics of the economy because that is the only thing that he could that he feels that he has a chance to win on. that he feels that he has a chance to win on.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And, you know, like now we first, first he was saying like, yeah, we did maybe 60,000 deaths and we've really, we've really, we've come out of this really well. It's been a really great success. Now he's saying if something around 100,000 people passing away is still total victory. So those goalposts still keep moving.
Starting point is 00:39:21 But now we're seeing now that they have no messaging on testing and they they need something now because people just they just keep getting hammered on everything else so now it seems that they're completely shifting all of the energy to now talking about the economy it's like so they're gonna throttle back the appearances by doctors burks and fauci and more larry cudlow more mnuchin to be like i mean the way this economy that's all they're going to say it's all going to be about how the economy is recovering and when you look at this tweet from uh the president on sunday this gives you a glimpse
Starting point is 00:39:55 of the kind of like thematic shit they're gonna the tone that they want this is a tweet yeah and then came a plague a great and powerful plague i should read this in his voice just so you can hear how fucking stupid it is. And then came a plague, a great and powerful plague. And the world was never to be the same again. But America rose from its death and destruction, always remembering its many lost souls and the lost souls all over the world and became greater than ever before. I don't know what the fuck cormac mccarthy also describing like a pokemon too like i don't know what this is it's some may the fourth be with you energy you know yeah yeah for sure for sure and you know the whole idea is get these
Starting point is 00:40:41 economies back up get some anecdotes to put in the headlines about how Georgia opened up and there was no issues. Florida reopened. There's no issues. But the bottom line is when you look at all of the numbers, there's not even of all the states that are reopening who have this like really smooth brained idea to reopen aggressively. They none of them even meet the criteria that the CDC has laid out for when to reopen, which is 14 days of consistent declines in new cases. None of them have done that. And if anything, all of our all of our data shows us that our death rate is going up at best plateauing. So it's all just very, very creepy. But again, this is all just to keep that, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:24 hopefully have a v-shaped recovery as i keep saying on wall street yeah so i mean it's it seems like there's a clean break with reality uh jason pargin was uh saying that he feels like you know we keep seeing these headlines that are well this surely this will change how people how trump Trump's supporters feel about him. And when you look at his favorability ratings, it's been 43% before his election, the day after his election, and today it's all right around 43%. So it's just like they're not changing anything
Starting point is 00:42:02 about how they feel about that. So when the reality is that you can't... When you can't have the reality be that... When reality doesn't fit with him being a competent leader who you can plausibly, insanely have as your leader, something else is going to have to give. So I don't know. I just feel like we're headed for a really like we're already
Starting point is 00:42:27 seeing it i'm not like predicting anything we're already seeing it with the protests and the open the government back up shit um but it's just i don't know it's very scary there there's this article uh frank bruni column where he talked to to this woman, Laurie Garrett, who is being featured everywhere because she was saying this could happen at any time. And she talks about, like, she makes a bunch of predictions, like, this is going to go in waves in various places. There will be, like, an outbreak in one city and not in the other. It's not, not like this whole nationwide thing so we need to get over the idea that this is like a nationwide story that we can encounter that way she predicts travel is gonna like how we think about travel is going to change a bunch of
Starting point is 00:43:16 stuff that just seems really smart but one thing she doesn't she's like and i think people's political values are gonna change because they're seeing how rich, rich people are getting off of the virus. And we're going to come out of quarantine and there's going to be 30% unemployment. So she's assuming that those people will then change how they feel about the president. And I don't think that's true. I think that is like a constant. They've picked their side. Yeah, they've picked their side
Starting point is 00:43:49 and they're going to change reality to fit whatever will allow them to keep supporting him. He's the conductor. He just has to change the tune. It does seem like a death cult at this point. Absolutely. When people are wearing no masks in the midst of a pandemic to cosplay as oppressed white people with guns and shit that's yeah they're
Starting point is 00:44:11 clearly they're like it doesn't matter because at the end of the day that number is not going to move because those 43 44 percent of the country that is always there for him they're not interested in politics they're interested in white. They're interested in white dominance. They're interested in the oppression of marginalized people. They just need to feel on top. And they walk this really great, and I say great because it's able to feed on either side. They always feel simultaneously like the dominant culture or the oppressed culture at any given moment. And they can modulate so quickly between the two that they never have to reconcile one with the other.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Like, it's like, I'm oppressed, but I thought you were, y'all were so rah, rah about this is Trump's America. So, well,
Starting point is 00:44:53 that's in that context. But in this one, I need to, I need to activate this side of my, you know, my personality to energize myself, to go out there. Other times it's,
Starting point is 00:45:01 I think it's just, it's really, yeah, it really, nothing's really uh yeah it really nothing's gonna move i think really the the work is gonna have to be in november to turn out as many people who do not agree with donald trump just to fucking vote all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll come back and uh talk about some bullshit. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
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Starting point is 00:48:26 Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season?
Starting point is 00:48:43 Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Daphne Spring, Daniel Thrasher, Peppermint, Morgan J, and more. You gotta watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you gotta listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us,
Starting point is 00:49:05 but you got to listen. Like if you're watching us, you have to tell us like if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just just you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh first of all time baby breaking news guys joe exotic apparently a scripted series that's been in the works since before this docu-series that everybody went crazy about, Tiger King. And yeah, they've been developing it for a while and they just announced.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Is that the one that's sort of like the Jinx? Yeah, that's the one that's kind of like Southern the Jinx, except not as good. And the guy is an innocent. But it's going to be Nicolas Cage playing Joe Exotic, which is a choice. No. It's a very...
Starting point is 00:50:14 I mean, Nicolas Cage makes his characters Nicolas Cage. Like, that's the... Yeah, it sounds like a good choice when you first hear it, and then you think about it, and then you're like, oh, man. Is he producing it? It should have been Rockwell. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:30 I wonder how many people wanted to play him. Right. But I'm also like, who's like, yeah, I want to make this, and I objectively think Nicolas Cage is the best person. I guess it all depends on how you're trying to make the film. I think us as directors, we would like to see almost these real-life people come to life as they are on screen rather than the artist's interpretation. Because really, I think at the end of the day, we just want to see which actor has the best Joe Exotic impersonation. There should have been a whole reality show about that that led up to the miniseries
Starting point is 00:51:06 that would have been oh can you imagine what a treat uh i mean in these times now more than ever this is something that kind of coronavirus panic world's most famous character actors compete for the role of Joe Exotic. That would be incredible. Gary Oldman and like fucking Christopher Walken. But just everybody. Ian McKellen. Like everybody who's so wrong for it. Just everybody. Danny Glover.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Timothy Shalney. Alfred Molina. Everyone's in the mix. Oh, that would have been so fun. I just can't even picture nicholas cage's voice like being pinched and high and like reedy like like joe exotics like they like nicholas cage has never had like a high-pitched like voice like that i just i don't he sure so i think what happened here is that like all bad decisions it was like they had a pr announcement in mind when they made it
Starting point is 00:52:07 they were like okay it's nicholas cage's first time on tv so that'll that's like reason enough to do it um and i don't think it is but we will see but i think also if they were developing this for a while they weren't counting on what the response would be to tiger king you know they just knew this was going to be something worth making and then tiger right comes out and that would completely fuck up people's idea of who should be joe exotic because i get it if we didn't see tiger king ever and then they said nick cage is playing this like tiger owner weird dude in oklahoma i'm like okay interesting, interesting. I have nothing to compare it to, but now that I do... I think we're all mad about how much
Starting point is 00:52:50 of our attention it's consuming. I also, yeah, I don't want to see it. I've hit peak king. If everybody's like, it's amazing, then I'll definitely see it. I thought I knew everything about the OJ trial, and then they made two,
Starting point is 00:53:06 they made a scripted series and a docu-series that were like the two best things I saw that year. That's true. I do love the OJ series. I wish that, see, not to bring Robert Durst into the mix, but it happened to him in reverse where they made the movie first
Starting point is 00:53:22 and then they made the docu-series where Ryan Gosling plays Robert Dur they made the movie first and then they made the docuseries where if they where ryan gosling plays robert durst in the movie and he i like i generally think ryan gosling's a pretty good actor but he did not even google robert durst he just played he just plays it like a sexy man not like a not like a little like freaky keebler elf which is what robert durst an innocent keebler elf murder elf just what Robert Durst, an innocent Keebler elf. Like a burpy murder elf? Just a little burpy murder elf.
Starting point is 00:53:52 And Ryan Gosling's like, I have abs and that is Robert Durst. I'm like, abs have nothing to do with Robert Durst. They couldn't have anything less to do with Robert Durst. More Durst erasure, really. It's really sickening to see. I think that we should, I think that someone, someone, it could be anyone, could be a woman, could be me, you know, should have just a shot at making a proper Robert Durst tribute. Yes. Called Innocent. Robert Durst tribute band.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yeah. Yes. All right, guys, let me tell you what happened in The Last Dance, episodes five and six. Ooh, strapping. Gather around, kids. So the show is progressing on two timelines. One is like a slow walk through the 98 season, and then one kind of goes from the beginning of his career
Starting point is 00:54:39 to the 98 season, the end. So the flashback career storyline is now in the thick of them winning the first three pete and like the challenge of defeating the league is kind of over now they're just like winning championship after championship and it's kind of a it's so hard to be famous episode which it is like he's they i mean they make a compelling case and i i've never doubted the the case like even since the beatles made it that like man it's hard to be the beatles because everywhere you go you're fully like i feel like quarantine has made me even more like there's a part of the of the docu-series where jordan is just like sitting in his hotel room smoking a cigar
Starting point is 00:55:25 and he's like I can't leave this room ever or else I'll be you know like I just can't go anywhere now we're all Michael Jordan is what I'm saying thank god Madonna was right the great equalizer truly we're all Michael Jordan. So this episode, these two episodes, I actually don't know which is which, but one of them had the dream team, which was dope. Yeah, that was a great one. Oh, so you watched it? I watched it, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Oh, awesome. I'm caught up. I'm so excited. So some things I didn't, like the things that are part of legend are the dream team practice where like there was one uh scrimmage game that was like the greatest basketball game ever played because all the best players were there and they got really competitive to the point that they were like ready to fight each other um and it was interesting because Magic, who's always this happy-go-lucky public presence,
Starting point is 00:56:30 is throwing the ball into the upper rafters of the gym and just being like, fuck you, man. He's so mad. My wife had a good point when we were watching it. She's like, wait, so he doesn't realize that Jordan is better than him yet? And it's like, yeah, no, that's the illusion all of these guys have to keep going is that you are the best player of all time at all times. That sounds such a stressful thing.
Starting point is 00:57:01 When the evidence to the contrary is like there all the time right that just sounds yeah so this covers when jordan beats barkley in the finals in 93 uh i didn't realize jordan averaged over 40 points in that finals is the most ever uh but he barkley like says there's like this game two where Barkley has the best game that he can play at this point, and it was the year he won the MVP, so it's probably the best game that he ever played, and Jordan just outplays him. He's like, that was the first time that I ever thought someone
Starting point is 00:57:39 on the court with me was better than me. It's like, wait, what? How is that possible? You've played against Jordan so many times. Yeah And it's like, wait, what? How is that possible? You've played against Jordan so many times. Yeah, it's like you've known him for a while. Do you think there's a way as an athlete to take, like, you know, as like artists or creators, you can take those kinds of moments of humility and grow.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Like you can say like, damn, like that person's fucking killing it. And I understand the confidence thing. Like, I guess you would either need to be so like maniacally confident like a jordan where you just have tunnel vision and it's like fuck everybody or you would be like so humble and truly a student of the game and be like i'm just trying to be the best person i can be i don't necessarily think i'm better than everyone but i'm taking you know i mean like is there you think there's a way to reconcile those attitudes as an athlete
Starting point is 00:58:23 or is it i mean like watching that episode specifically made me feel like more grateful to be in a more subjective form of things right yeah then how many laughs did you score on that episode right you can just always like lie to yourself if you're doing a shitty job and be like oh it's just not for them but like there's a numerical like it's you can't really it sounds like just a really difficult like headspace to be and like you just have to become a better person or never talk right like i don't know right yeah you have to basically gaslight yourself into just thinking you're the best or yeah or just be someone i I don't know. Are there players like that? It's a difficult thing. Listening to Vin Baker talk about his alcoholism when he was in the NBA, it's like, yeah, no, that,
Starting point is 00:59:12 he describes how having a crisis of confidence and just not being able to deal with that crisis of confidence, he was one of the best players in the league and one of the top paid players in the league, and he became an alcoholic, and now he he's in recovery and just talking about it it's like yeah that seems like actually the sane way that you would encounter that situation of like having to perform in front of thousands of people who are yelling at you every night like of course you would have doubts but i think you have to be able to like
Starting point is 00:59:45 foster and grow almost like a sourdough starter uh this illusion that you are the greatest and i was enjoying the series so there's a great uh detail in the dream team stuff where uh tony kukoc is i hadn't realized, but he was being kind of recruited. He had already been drafted by Jerry Krause and was like being talked up by Jerry Krause, the Bulls GM. And so Jordan and Pippen decide they're just going to fucking destroy him in their first game playing against him. And it's so funny because they're just they're using their incredible skills to just dominate him in such a cool way and kukoc kukoc has this line where he's like i didn't expect you know that there to be someone next to me you know the whole time it's like oh you've
Starting point is 01:00:41 never had somebody play like man defense on you like mostly zone i guess because you know a lot of like even like football soccer like man marking isn't as commonplace i mean you may put one guy to one player specifically but yeah that's what's interesting they were picking him up full court yeah yeah dominating him but i just love those two because like that those are the elements of european basketball that have blended well into the nba is like the fluidity of passing and like first time passing like immediately like i think anyway that's just my yeah just thinking there's also a role change that champ made it so that uh it's just less physically people beating the shit out of each other and more of a beautiful game but so he scores four points and is like people were calling him the
Starting point is 01:01:25 euro magic johnson before that game and afterwards everyone like thought he was a joke but then he like comes back and like plays great against them and they point out that like he grew up in in a war so like he he's like a tough motherfucker this docuseries also continues to just be scary for me as someone in my 30s staring down the barrel of like everybody looks like shit everyone looks so bad they're in that phase of life they're like looks terrible man i was like fuck well i think being an athlete but being an athlete they're like in your prime people are looking at you at a like when your body is at a place most people don't take their physical presence to where it's like i'm a finely tuned athletic machine with very little body fat i'm
Starting point is 01:02:17 like eating like very healthily then you just become a middle-aged guy and i think maybe that compared like if we just knew tony Kukoc is just like Tony, you know, who was never in the NBA. Tony's a middle-aged guy. Yeah. Then like, it's less jarring,
Starting point is 01:02:29 but I think, yeah, cause our memories of them are so like, they're so like virile and vital. Yeah. I feel, and they're also, I feel bad,
Starting point is 01:02:37 but yeah, there's like some, I can't remember, but there was like some guys that like, they weren't dream team guys. They were just like, you know how there's like talking heads of like, he was on the team at the same time but you're like who the fuck is that those people look especially like shit you're just like yeah
Starting point is 01:02:53 wait he played a sport like it's so right right yeah horace grant judd bushler uh the bill winnington yeah these are all guys who look terrible. I remember as a kid getting a Bill Wennington card and I was like, what is this? This guy's an athlete? Watching the episodes where like, it looks like it happens to Larry Bird in the space of like two years.
Starting point is 01:03:23 The year after he retires, you're like, oh my God. And then he after he retires you're like oh my god like and then he switches to coaching and you're like oh so that's how does that happen like he just like aged like a president but i'm like maybe that's just like what happens to your body when you're really relieved i don't know yeah well i think so i think what these guys do is so physically taxing. Like they're getting the most, when you play an 82 game schedule in the NBA, you're getting like the most exercise anyone has ever gotten ever. And you're also like not, at that time I feel like the guys
Starting point is 01:04:00 weren't really closely regulating their diets. And so they yeah they develop shitty eating habits it doesn't matter at that time because they can just you know burn through all the calories but then like the second they stop playing uh yeah uh another just my my favorite tweet uh i'm gonna have to find the person who tweeted it but uh mentioned the fact that a moderate shot so a moderate shot enters as he was always you know an nbc broadcaster who was a friend of michael jordan's uh and is making like some character statements about jordan and somebody tweeted saying before we like go trusting Ahmad Rashad as a
Starting point is 01:04:45 judge of character let's remember who the best men were at his wedding and there's a photograph of him and Felicia Rashad from the Cosby show getting married and his groomsmen are OJ and Bill Cosby oh my god wow
Starting point is 01:05:01 yeah do you think he just looks like in that and goes like god damn he's like man I look like an asshole now I used to defend those guys yeah anyways I'll tell you who tweeted that
Starting point is 01:05:16 when we get to the tweets at the end guys real quick should we talk about the Florida guy who got busted camping on it's just in a it really it's just a fun story i like because this 40 a 42 year old man okay named richard mcguire he was arrested last week mcguire because they caught him basically camping on this old disney world island like in the on the property of disney Discovery Island, that used to be like a wild animal attraction and all this other stuff. And people basically,
Starting point is 01:05:48 there were allegations of animal abuse and things like that. And the park had other developments like animal kingdom. They're like, all right, we can just shutter this whole 11 acre Island. So this guy apparently just got like the great idea when they found him, he said, when he was arrested, he told the deputies, he said he had entered the island to go camping on monday or tuesday and planned on staying there for about a week and he was just like just said i didn't i didn't know that like you know what the deal was just looks like a tropical paradise because it was like you know they put all this like flora and fauna there to make it look like as tropical as possible because it was an attraction that's just completely overgrown and it wasn't until like a couple disney employees like spotted him like walking around on
Starting point is 01:06:30 the island from like a boat or something they're like wait what the fuck i think some guy is camping like on the property so they had to use boats fucking uh like on foot i think a fucking helicopter at one point and they were like blaring over pa system be like yo come out like you're trespassing and the guy just came out and apparently said sorry dude i didn't he claims did not see or hear them due to being asleep in one of the buildings on the island okay this is great this is like eminem style lose yourself one life one opportunity this opportunity comes once in a lifetime okay do not miss your chance to blow right probably had some of mom's spaghetti on his shirt
Starting point is 01:07:08 you also say that 42 like that's shocking but have you seen the people who are too into disney they're all 42 they're all like the whole disney youtube community is 42. It's a thing that happens to us whites. At the age of 42, we go on a Mormon-like journey where we must just take a year off to be obsessed with Disney. Did you ever go to Discovery Island? I've never been to a world, so I'm completely ignorant of all of the fantastic things that live there. I was not aware that existed. I didn't know that that was a thing.
Starting point is 01:07:44 And I watched those roller coaster youtube channels i i saw with your new form of edging um discovery island was once called treasure island it was opened in 1979 been closed since 99 oh wow and like there's a there's a keeping it up enough for somebody to camp there no there's a youtube video of a dude who went there recently, clearly just trespassed one of those urban explorer type YouTube channels. And it full on looks like a place that has not been operating for 20 years. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:19 I mean, some of the fixtures are not fully rotten, but it's completely overgrown. Yeah. Love it. completely overgrown. Yeah. Love it. Good for him. Something to aspire to, gang. Fun. Fun.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Looks like fun, and hopefully you don't get shot while doing it. Jamie, it's been a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you and follow you? Hey, you can find me online at twitter.com at jamieloftishelp. You can find me on instagram.com at jamiechristsuperstar. You can listen to the Bechtel cast. We've got some fun ones coming up.
Starting point is 01:08:58 This week is Bad Moms for Bad Mother's Day. Hey. Let's see. And then I know I've liked a tweet recently. I can just feel it in my bones. Oh, let's go with this one. This is from Amanda Mull at Amanda Mull. Not a single famous person doing TV appearances during quarantine
Starting point is 01:09:17 has ordered a $20 laptop stand online yet. Just a lot of millionaires being shot from under their chins. This is how we end stand culture. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey. Also, my other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, talking about
Starting point is 01:09:41 90 Day Fiance. And if you're hearing this in time, on Tuesday, Cinco de Mayo, we are doing a live stream on our twitch channel so go to twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance and you can check us out recording the show okay get a glimpse into there uh just to give you guys some content uh some tweets that i like first up i just want to say monty bennett the guy who got all that ppp money giving all the money back okay all right just want to throw that one up on the board uh first tweet is from allison balsam at fool in the lotus it says 30 years ago a comedian could wear a leather jacket and just go hickory dickory dock suck my cock and he'd get a hundred million dollars and people would be like wow this guy's a genius okay but he was good in a star is
Starting point is 01:10:27 born yeah fantastic actually uh the then another one from past guests melissa lozada oliva she's fantastic follow uh she said wondering if soon dating is going to involve a socially distant courtship of two weeks and then if you're trying to fuck you both self-isolate for another two weeks to make sure that you're not sick and then you can finally bang um and then this one is from michael benjamin it's a video uh and it just says how some of you sound and it i think we've all began to see a lot of people take the fucking foot off the uh social distancing pedal um and this man's tweet like this video just really sums up the point of view i'm just gonna play the audio but i will show the rest of the crew this weekend's been really rough i quarantined with some friends we tried to go to this restaurant but it was takeout only so we went to my friend's house
Starting point is 01:11:21 there's a patio and we all quarantined there together we would try to go to palm springs but the airbnb usually gets booked so we did a quarantine hike's house it was a patio and we all quarantined there together we would try to go to Palm Springs but the Airbnb I usually get is booked so we did a quarantine hike and then quarantined in my friend's pool and now I'm just home super bored but I am meeting up with some people later so I can't wait for this all to be over
Starting point is 01:11:36 genius just putting quarantine in front of something doesn't mean you're socially I do a quarantine brunch yeah but it's so true i'd like the there were fucking kids across the street yesterday like having a fucking rager uh and there were like 20 kids uh the cops had to be called uh but yeah there there was a cops had to be called as a nice way of you saying you called the cops on some kids. No, I didn't because I'm like, well, I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:12:07 At first, I just thought, oh, somebody's playing their music really loud. And then I just saw a bunch of traffic in and out. And there are older people in my neighborhood who are not fucking around. And they definitely broke it up. Pulled that trigger. Yeah, there's been some cookouts starting in back up in my neighborhood that i like had to on my daily outside time i had to like swerve around it's like come everybody it's tough man i think is honestly man it's just like a feeling that you feel inside
Starting point is 01:12:39 too where you're like i i want to do something different, but I think some of us just are able to, I guess, compartmentalize that. I'm addicted to being upset, so this has worked out great. Oh, perfect. That Ahmad Rashad tweet was from Slim Bowler at Returns Grinch. Great handle. Update, Ahmad Rashad responded,
Starting point is 01:13:03 Whoa. Were they questionable at that time, or are you looking for controversy? Sad answer. Just fade to the back, sir. You didn't need to speak up. Yeah, just close the window, sir. Wow.
Starting point is 01:13:21 And then the garbage shit boy tweeted a picture of The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway and then focused in on a four-word segment and said, greatest writer of the 20th century, my ass. And the four words are, we were eating shrimps. Which is apparently in there. shrimps and then Mahanad
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Starting point is 01:14:11 where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we going to ride out on today? Okay, this track is from Matt Martians featuring steve lacy uh two producers i absolutely love matt martians started with odd future and now just doing all kinds of stuff uh la base originally from east point uh georgia and you know steve lacy one of the great guitar players right now and producers uh i think he's from chicago uh but this track is called pony fly and it's just got you
Starting point is 01:14:45 know it's nice to hear people playing their instruments i've it gave me a little bit of an escape as i listened i felt like you know i was around people oh god that's where we're at right now is a pony fly like an adorable horse fly or is it it's up to you different you know a little yeah like a baby yeah it could be a little horsefly. It could be just a really odd looking fly. It could just be a command while you're riding a pony. It's the grossest looking pegasus. It's like, no, that's a pony fly.
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