The Daily Zeitgeist - Killer Robots Bad? Kavanaugh = Victim? 9.17.19
Episode Date: September 17, 2019In episode 475, Jack and Miles are joined by The Reddot's Kim Winder to discuss Tulsi Gabbard coming after Trump over Iran threats, GM going on strike, new allegations against Brett Kavanaugh and call...s for his impeachment, Seinfeld coming to Netflix, ex-Google employee claiming killer robots could ruin us, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Tulsi Gabbard Rips Trump on Iran Threats: Acting Like ‘Saudi Arabia’s B*tch is Not America First’2. JPMorgan’s Dimon Among CEOs Rejecting Investor-Centric Model3. New reporting details how FBI limited investigation of Kavanaugh allegations4. New York Times apologizes for ‘inappropriate and offensive’ tweet about Kavanaugh sexual misconduct allegation5. Trump blasts calls for impeachment of Brett Kavanaugh after new allegations6. Calls for Justice Kavanaugh’s impeachment are mounting. Here’s how it could work.7. How to Bungle an Impeachment8. ‘Seinfeld’: Netflix Lands Global Streaming Rights To Comedy Series In 20219. Ex-Google worker fears 'killer robots' could cause mass atrocities10. WATCH: ANGELICA BESS - SAIL TO THE SUN Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 100, Episode 2 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio.
This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top,
Fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. It's Tuesday, September 17th, 2019.
news it's tuesday september 17th 2019 my name is jack o'brien aka what do i do with my hands not a clue do i put them in front or beside me lend me your fears and i'll pass you the bong
i will try not to freak out or flee oh when i get high i can't cope with my hands uh that is courtesy of wide awake at 3 45
a.m and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray look at these ak's
it's nickelback every day Why did I get so high?
Chad Kroger, yo, that's my guy
Wanna get a Mexi-melt
Hot takes just under my belt
A hundred weeks of this show
Don't lie, you already know
Oh, man.
Hannah Soltis, thank you so much, Hannah, for that.
Nickelback inspired, a.k.a.
And I was saying we could do Nickelback this week.
You know what?
Also, let's start also going into Linkin Park territory.
Oh, no.
Because as if my voice wasn't.
You're really showing off your taste in me.
I just want to shriek.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And for the people who don't like the singing, thank you for enduring it.
But this is what the new show is.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Kim Winder.
Hello, guys.
Welcome back.
Welcome back.
Well, thank you for inviting me.
Hey, it's a pleasure having you.
Yeah.
It's been too long. Yes. It's been a little
bit, but I've grown as a person. You've grown as a person. Great. Fantastic. How's your comics doing?
It's going. Yes. It's going all right. Yeah. I have not improved technically, but
the comedy, as you can see, is landing. I feel like, you know, and I don't want to take credit, but since you were on this podcast,
I feel like I've seen your work everywhere.
Yes.
Oh, no.
Thank you for the huge bump.
Yeah, we totally blew you up.
And if I don't get that same kind of bump this time around, we'll talk.
This time, yeah.
You can come back and burn this place down.
Hey, what's the name of your comic?
The Red Dot.
That's what I thought.
Go check it out, guys.
Where can they find it?
Well, oh, we're flipping this up.
Okay, well, I'm on Instagram and Twitter,
the double underscore Red Dot.
Okay, double underscore.
I know.
Oh, somebody, yeah.
I'm still over here with my amateur ass single underscore.
I'm hyping it up.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's good for people to know because I think
last time after the fact, people were like, wait,
I know that comic and I didn't even realize
that's who's here. So that's who's here.
That's who you're listening to.
Hi, Mom. Bow down.
Yeah. Your mom is a huge
fan of the Zeitgeist, right?
You were saying enormous fan.
Cool.
Oh, no. your eyes just went
definitely she would have turned it off from the announcement at the beginning of the show yeah
yeah uh as with many moms well we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment kim
first we are gonna tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today on this second episode from our 100th
season oh can you believe how do we do it congratulations oh really thank you so much
thank you this is 501 uh i don't know it doesn't break down perfectly like that because we've taken
some days off here and there then we do some bonus episodes recap it's you know we're not it's not
about the numbers. Yeah.
I mean, it's about the fans.
You're right.
It's about the fans.
It's about you guys.
It's about the guests.
Now I feel like an ass for pushing myself.
No, no.
I think we feel worse because we don't even know our own output.
Yeah.
No clue.
I can give you a ballpark.
I think maybe around 5,000.
Yeah.
That's good.
That's good.
Seems like 5,000.
Not good at numbers.
So we're going to talk about Seinfeld coming to Netflix.
Oh, wow.
We're going to talk about Iran and Saudi Arabia, the bombing of the oil fields.
I did not catch up.
Refinery.
Oil refinery plant.
We're going to talk about that GM strike.
We're going to talk about Kavanaugh's dick.
Unfortunately.
Probably.
There's something very vivid about this particular accusation where I can just like really picture
it. Anyways, we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about an ex-Google employee who has a
really, I don't know, it's kind of a controversial take saying killer robots could be bad.
Yeah.
Well, we'll see.
I mean, seeming.
Killing what?
They seem nice to me.
But first, Kim, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Well, recently I had to look up womanizer charging issues, and you are both male, so I don't think you know about women's sex toys as much.
Is that the one with the suction?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm glad you're on board.
Yeah, the one that sucks the clit.
It sucks the clit, yes.
Sorry, I know a thing or two.
The clitoral function as well as.
They help you when you're a male who cannot satisfy a woman.
Or they're a way, you know, whatever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But these sex toys are getting like so advanced and so well made.
But they still have like these really crappy chargers where it's two metallic magnets
that connect to another
that charges. But I'm not
putting a box inside me. I'm putting
a spherical object.
So it's hard to keep the charge. It always falls off.
Wait, so it's shaped
in a way that isn't even conducive to properly
charging? Yeah, so it slips off or you
have to set it just away for
it to stick and then sometimes it doesn't charge fully.
Got it.
And it's a pretty expensive toy, totally worth it.
Right.
But at the same time, when you have this charger,
it just kind of defeats the purpose.
And I was trying to find like-
Hacks.
Yeah, ways to do it.
And honestly, all I found was women
just ranting how stupid it is.
Like I paid 200 bucks and it's not charging.
$200?
Where is that on the price scale of what we're talking?
Is that super high end?
Is that Ferrari?
Or is that like Kia?
I'm sure they go higher.
But for me, that was the most expensive thing I've ever bought.
And wait, so when you're talking about charging,
like in my mind, anything that's charging,
typically it's like some kind of cable that you plug in or whatever.
Yeah.
But this is using some kind of contact charging, essentially.
So there's nothing.
It's a balancing act.
Well, it still has a USB, but at the end is like this little sphere with the two magnets.
And then you have your toy with the two magnets and you have to position it to where it will stand.
Because it's too top heavy, it won't fall over.
You're paying too much money man for this to happen
for $200 sort out
the charging issues
how long does a charge last for?
how frequently do you need to charge it?
a lot
a lot because you know other
power output
two hours or so
I mean it's also not one of those
devices that
I don't know. You don't
necessarily, you're not constantly
thinking about it and
thinking about it in a practical way. Sometimes
it's more of a need-based
thing. Yeah. It's not like
I'm charging my phone every night.
It's just when I
want to use the toy and shit, it's
not charged.
Right.
Well, if anyone from Womanizer's R&D is listening, you got a big problem here.
Yeah, seriously.
Also change your name?
Yeah.
Yeah, Womanizer?
Yeah.
At first when you said charging issues, I was like, is that a crime?
Yeah.
Trying to charge this person with Womanizer. I was thinking about toxic men.
What is something you think is overrated?
Okay.
So you guys talked about this last week, but White Claw is overrated.
Okay.
I know there's a shortage going on.
In some places, yeah.
Yeah.
And it's really just because they can't keep up with demand and the cost of the tin can.
I know this because my hubs works in the industry and has a rep.
Oh, and the tea was spilled to him.
Yeah.
I see.
Also, it just tastes like watered down Kool-Aid.
It's not great.
It's deceptive.
Yeah.
Because the first time I had them, I was like, oh, I mean, I think i had two in a row for the first my first claw experience
and i was like the first one's like i drank it so quickly i thought i was drinking seltzer and then
they had that alcohol aftertaste but then at the end of the day i was like it almost takes the fun
out of drinking alcohol because it seemed it's so flavorless but if you're just trying to get at it
i think that's i think that might be the X factor for people
who just want to like, can't handle the taste of alcohol, but just want to be drinking constantly.
That's just so many calories because it's still like 100 calories. The taste isn't great.
And then I don't know, I'm left dissatisfied. And there's better seltzers out there,
hard seltzers, in my opinion. Yeah. I mean, some might even advertise on this show.
We don't even know.
If you're out there, let us know.
Maybe I'll give you a testimonial.
It may happen.
Do you have a cocktail of choice?
A cocktail?
Yeah, an Aviation or a Black Manhattan.
What's a Black Manhattan?
Ooh, it's whiskey, Angosera bitters, orange, and I'm always missing one other thing.
I should know because my husband's a bartender.
I guess what makes it different?
It adds an extra level of booziness.
Oh, okay.
So it's a nice fall-winter cocktail that you have to sip.
You can't just down that.
Right, right.
You have to respect it.
Yeah.
It's no wonder you don't fuck with White Claw because you're over here being like,
I like dimensions of flavor. Like, to respect it. Yeah. It's no wonder you don't fuck with White Claw because you're over here being like, I like dimensions of flavor.
Like you're evoking seasons.
I'm sure you think of a color story about like a cocktail even.
Oh, I'm totally ruined.
Yeah, I'm a snob.
Well, I mean, but what's wrong with that?
The finer things, as we say.
Exactly.
Now, are White Claws a thing that people order in a bar?
Will you like?
You can.
You can.
It depends on the place.
Yeah, I guess so i haven't
seen it in a bar but it's definitely at the liquor store closest to my house yeah because all people
at that liquor store buy are tall cans of pre-made micheladas uh the clamato and bud light ones
they can't keep those on the shelf and blunt wraps which they can't keep on the shelf thanks to me
that i i do see a lot of people buying the Micheladas or whatever.
The pre-made?
Yeah.
Man, there's so many now.
There's one with Golden Road Brewery,
where it's mango cart plus the Clamato.
I don't know.
I don't know if the wave has quite reverberated outside of California,
but I feel like more and more people like drinking Micheladas.
I've never tried one.
Really?
No. Do you like Bloody Marys? I drinking micheladas. I've never tried one. Really? No.
Do you like Bloody Marys?
I do.
Will you drink a savory cocktail?
Yes.
Then this is like a very, you know, like an easy sipper of basically Clamato or clam juice,
tomato juice, Mexican beer, maybe a little tajin on the rim.
Maybe you put some Hugo Maggi in there to turn it up a little bit.
You know, there's there to turn it up a little bit um you know there's ways
to do it like for me with cocktails it's always i have to have a bartender make it because the canned
seems so unreliable right right right right um no i much prefer a handmade michelada versus like
the canned ones the canned ones out here are just too salty and i'm like my insides have been
preserved that's what i'm afraid of either too salty too sweet and I'm
just going to be fucked up the next day.
You're not looking
for your insides to be preserved. That's usually
one of my top
considerations.
Also shout out to the
father of Twitter user Kendra
who said
who tweeted over the weekend
Super Producer Anna Hosni I shared this with the thread that
my dad thought white claws were just like LaCroix's and has been drinking one every
morning on his drive to work.
Laugh my ass off.
That's the thing, though, that I've heard somewhere that in the South, like that was
a thing people would do is like take a shot once in the morning and once at night just to get loose, I guess.
What?
I don't know.
Well, that was the basis of the old fashioned.
Oh, really?
It was a morning cocktail because you were so hungover from the night before.
Right.
And you have your dead end coal industry job.
So you had your old fashioned, which is cheap uh way to make a cocktail and then
you would just go about your day yeah oh good for your healthy nerves yes i've heard uh what
is something you think is underrated uh well this other seltzer i'm um underrated i'm gonna say
tiktok tiktok is underrated all right let's get into get into TikTok because I don't know what it is.
Is that the kids?
What's it?
The new Vine?
Pretty.
Well, yeah.
It's the new kind of Vine.
Yeah.
Musically.
It was formerly musically.
And then on Reddit, there's a subreddit TikTok cringe.
Oh, no.
I can only imagine what's on there.
It was a lot of furries, a lot of lip syncing.
Like really dark stuff sometimes, right?
Yeah.
Weird kind of.
Or maybe I'm thinking of a Twitter that was like.
There was a Twitter that got shut down.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
But behind all that cringe, there's like gold.
Magic, yeah.
There's some really funny shit.
At 3 a.m., I'm scrolling through laughing my ass off just because some of them are really, really funny.
Yeah.
So I think it's underrated because you hear so much of the cringe.
But if you have the patience, there is some really funny stuff on there.
Like intentionally funny?
Intentionally funny.
Like really funny shit.
Really?
Like really good comedy.
Although one thing I will say is I'm pretty sure they've scrubbed like
all existence of any kind of hong kong protest from tiktok oh yeah which has been very interesting
but like i mean that's that's a separate issue who owns tiktok is it just like a company that
sprung up in the vine void um no who owns it i mean there's something. Vine, like a lot of really talented comics and, you know, just funny people start out on Vine.
No, there's like the kinds of bits you will see.
It was Bite Dance, which is a Chinese company.
So, yeah.
That makes sense.
Some of the bits you see are so funny because they're playing around with videos that you think are going to be like, wow, amazing videos.
So it would be someone making a latte and putting a heart-shaped filter over the cup and pouring foam through this shape or whatever.
And when they reveal it, it's just a blob underneath.
And they nailed it or there's another one where this woman was doing a bit where she was like uh had a water
bottle in front of a coffee cup and pours all the water into the coffee cup and then takes a coffee
cup and dumps it upside down and it's empty but then when she stands up water all over her
people just doing like dumb shit like that too i'm like yes that's what makes it wonderful. And then you have a function like do it where you can take someone's either super serious TikTok and then just do a side by side and people like endlessly mock or somehow add to it.
It's really, really funny.
So, I mean, the functionality is it just is like a more flexible like almost like instagram video yeah just another
video platform another video platform with cool functionality like the duet thing you just mentioned
yeah but it helps make good video content like it like these other things just sort of like allow
you to put like a post video but this is sort of like being like look you want to make a video like
here's some tools to do it yeah tons more tools than i think vine ever had um i never was on mine i was very briefly
okay but not in like uh i maybe posted three things and they didn't go anywhere and i was
very discouraged i have spent a lot of time on youtube just watching thomas sanders vine the um
he does a great stewie gr impersonation. Oh, really?
And then a lot of just optimistic, dark.
He's funny.
He's on Instagram now, not on TikTok.
You had me at Stewie Griffin impression.
She's really good.
That's all Jack shares with people in our text thread.
What is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Okay, so I had like three I was debating on,
and I guess I'm just going to call it now.
I think sending nudes over the internet is not a bad thing.
Okay.
Obviously, when you do it,
it's going to have the potential to get out publicly
to the person that you didn't attend.
We live in an age now where dating is not just in your social circle, not at your community.
It could be someone across the country.
And if you don't see each other a lot, you're still allowed to be intimate and sexual.
Right.
But if you're going to send a nude, you might as well just take the precautions, keep your
face out of it, keep any tattoos out of it.
Just be smart.
Yeah.
And if you're under 18, don't do it.
Yeah.
That's good.
I feel like euphoria was all built on people weaponizing the distribution of child porn against each other.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Like, did you watch euphoria?
No, I still watch it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
There are like moments where they're like, and I'll get you for distributing child porn.
Right.
Like to like other minors.
And you're like, wow.
Okay.
for distributing child porn to other minors.
And you're like, wow, okay.
But yeah, I think there is a lot of people because a lot of the backlash tends to come from older people
who would never themselves imagine that happening.
But it's also to an older person, like, have you been so horny
that you had to send your nude body across the internet
to get some kind of feeling back?
Yeah.
Well, I see a lot of girls especially just feel
like uh my ex-boyfriend is threatening to share which obviously that guy is a cunt um but she has
to apologize for doing it in the first place like sweetie you're allowed to be sexual like right i'm
i'm sorry you were with this jerk but you're not wrong in wanting to be sexual with your partner.
Right.
So I just stop apologizing.
Send nudes.
Just be over 18.
Yeah, I feel like it should be, if somebody's threatening to do that,
like outing them for threatening to do that should be the actually damaging part, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Aren't there laws that are being put into...
Revenge porn.
Revenge porn laws.
Yeah.
Because they have to, like, really articulate a whole, you know,
vocabulary around it to be, like, properly...
Yeah.
But, yeah, I mean, it's...
People love to moralize about shit that they never even had the option
to make a decision about.
So, yeah, older people are going to be like,
well, I never did that.
And it's like, well, yeah, because you would have had to fucking get a VHS tape and like
ship it across the country.
A Betamax.
Right.
Oh, man.
In fact, we used to just do sketches of ourselves.
Yeah.
I mean, Titanic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Old as nude.
That was hot as hell, man.
Yeah, or just classical sculptures.
If those are really like, those are actually nudes.
They're not art pieces.
That's just how those people got down.
Yeah, I mean, when you think about it, that's exactly what they were.
It's just because they're so removed from any distinguishing features.
Some of them have the head taken off.
They're hard
all the time right yeah it doesn't matter yeah yeah although even though we're talking about
with eric lampert the look the reason some of the penises are small because there's an adrenaline
rush right not that's just david or maybe just david yeah i heard that um back in like greek
roman times i could be off but having a smaller penis meant you were smarter like you were less
I could be off, but having a smaller penis meant you were smarter, like you were less brutish.
Yeah, I believe that.
That sounds probably right.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that's physiologically the truth.
That's pretty spot on from how I would see.
What was the reason they had?
It just means that you're more intellectually sound.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, I remember reading a-
Very intellectually sound. Like something like that.
And they had a quote from a Greek writer
that was like his beautiful small pecker
or something like that.
What?
Yeah.
That was seen as like a manly, awesome thing
to have a little wiener.
All right.
All right.
Well, we are off to a fucking great start
learning something new already.
We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered.
There are crooks everywhere you look now.
The situation is desperate.
My name is Manuel Delia.
I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere,
a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption
that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
And she paid the ultimate price. and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state.
And she paid the ultimate price.
Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.
Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Girl, yes.
Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do,
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The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies.
Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take.
Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career
without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app,
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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys.
I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically black.
I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only
going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things
sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored
by Diet Coke.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is
Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we
live at the intersection of sports and
culture. Up first, I
explore the making of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history. People are talking
about women's basketball just because of
one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
What exactly ignited this fire?
Why has it been so good for the game?
And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
And we're back.
And a Saudi oil refinery got bombed by a drone.
A few drones.
A few drones.
And it was apparently a very successful bombing because it threatened 20% of their oil output.
Yeah, it was huge.
I think it was one of their largest refineries,
if not the largest one.
Right.
But I think, you know, again,
it just kicked off the whodunit
where you have on one side in the U.S.
just out of nowhere be like,
yeah, it was probably Iran.
Right.
Even in Saudi Arabia, they're like, well, we're still looking at it.
It could be.
Obviously, it's having like the rebels in Yemen are the ones saying it was them.
Some Houthi rebels.
Yeah.
But it's also just, again, right when John Bolton leaves, I feel bad.
This would have been right up his alley to start banging the war drums
again, doing a sick solo on the war
drums.
I think as
things develop, we'll see what happens. I think
anything, if the Pentagon has
information or intelligence that
actually confirms who it was,
they're very quick to try and shove that in
people's faces. Because I remember when
Nikki Haley back in the day was like holding up
pieces of like missiles or bombs or,
or fragments was like,
see,
it says right here,
it's stamped made in Iran.
So it has to be Iran.
So I think we have to go to work.
Like it was like,
Whoa,
easy,
easy,
easy.
Right.
I mean,
even the,
some of the more recent reporting on this is saying that Tehran arms,
these Houthi rebels.
So if it is them, Iran is at least partially responsible.
But it just seems like, I don't know,
that's not really a one-to-one relationship.
Yeah, and also, let's be real.
We're backing Saudi Arabia in the middle of a humanitarian crisis
that's happening in Yemen,
and we're
constantly on the wrong side of fucking everything right now right so uh this is just another moment
too or like even with what trump was like tweeting was essentially kind of like well whatever we'll
see what the saudi arabians say and then based off of that we'll attack whoever that we they think it
is kind of essentially right uh which was sort of the gist of his tweet, I think,
where he says,
but we're waiting to hear back from the kingdom
as to who they believe was the cause of this attack
and under what terms we would proceed.
Which is odd because it's like saying,
hi, MBS, just point and we'll shoot.
Yeah, exactly.
And if you can't trust Saudi Arabia,
who can we trust, right?
Oh, boy.
Who can we trust? They seem like, boy. Who can we trust?
They seem like good people, right?
Maybe John Bolton changed teams.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
I mean, I think he still wants to have his special
where he gets to talk all this shit about Trump,
but I don't know if anyone wants him.
Wait, does he have a special coming up?
No, but I mean, just when we were talking about how he got fired,
how he was basically, all the reporters in D.C. were like,
he's really pissed off and wants to have his moment to tell everybody how bad he thinks Trump is.
But we've yet to see that happen quite yet.
That's amazing that a guy who has that mustache would be that upset about how something made
him look like that image conscious.
Well, yeah.
The one interesting thing was hearing Tul tulsi gabbard yeah just came said trump awaits and so trump was talking about
basically what you just said that he's waiting for uh saudi arabia's take and she said trump
awaits instructions from his saudi masters having our country act as saudi arabia's bitch is not america first uh so we'll see what
he does with that one we will but i mean yeah again it's we'll see what kind of talks they're
gonna have i mean before it seemed like he was willing to trump was willing to have uh condition
or no conditions uh talks with iran and other people have said it numerous times.
And now suddenly it's like saying like the media is saying that I would meet with Iran
with no conditions.
Oh, that's that's wrong.
That's wrong.
That's right.
But it's my man.
You're going to have to meet with these people if you want to avoid some kind of, you know,
terrible, terrible, catastrophic armed conflict.
Right.
Can meet these hands.
This is what these little hands meet these tiny hands
yeah and also i i do like how spicy the democratic candidates are getting like
like we were talking about after the uh debate kamala harris being just like fuck you man when
just how she was talking about uh trump like She was just basically wanted to get him to respond.
And now Tulsi Gabbard.
I feel like there's a race to try and get him to engage with one of the Democratic candidates.
But I think he has explicit instructions.
Like, don't give life to anyone.
That's the only time he'll listen to the aides because it keeps the focus on him and not
helping any of them.
Yeah.
It's free press.
Can't give it away.
Although he gave Chrissy Teigen and John Legend some free press last week.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
I guess if you're not running for president, then maybe he can see the value in that.
Right.
Although, all it's going to take is one more poll and he's going to be like Pocahontas
and Wacky Bernie or whatever the fuck he calls him.
to take his one more poll and he's gonna be like pocahontas and yeah wacky bernie or whatever the fuck he calls him i think he does talk shit about biden because i think he was he already recognizes
that he's like the presumptive nominee right but he slowly started to his gaze has shifted towards
elizabeth warren too but anyway it's it all depends on the day yeah uh. All right. Let's talk about the GM strike. It's the biggest strike, biggest
US labor stoppage since 2007, the last time GM struck or striked. I don't know which one is the
past tense. I don't remember. I was asking people in the office if they remembered that strike being
a huge news story, because this one feels like it's
being covered as a huge news story, which I think it is. And the teacher strike last year was covered
as a big news story. And I'm just wondering if there is a slightly more labor-friendly
kind of underpinning to the mainstream news cycle. I wonder if because it was sort of fallout
from the 2008 financial crisis,
they were getting bailed out,
that they probably didn't want as many stories
about how that actually, it was like corporate welfare.
Right.
Because I feel like a lot of,
from my drug addled memory from back then,
it would seem like a lot of it was talking about
how we need to save these companies. Right really we don't want to bail them out but if we
don't it's really going to take a hit to like one of the biggest industries in the country the
automotive sector or whatever and it wasn't so much of like uh we're just letting them completely
fuck up and we're bailing them out i mean i think a lot of progressive news outlets were like that
but i think the story was more like guys we, we got to save the banks and GM.
I think the way of the collective thinking has shifted because back in 2007, 2008, it's like, let's save the companies because that has the people.
But now we're really focused on the people instead of the companies, which is, I think, a great step forward. Yeah, I mean, I think probably the media is at least partially taking its cues from
Bernie and Elizabeth Warren, like polling as strongly as they're polling, despite the fact
that they're, you know, not the traditional candidates that the media would cover. So at
least they have to take into account that, into account that there seems to be more general support
among the general public
for these more kind of worker-friendly,
labor-friendly policies.
Well, yeah.
And I think, again, it's just a function
of the way the economy is moving
and working people getting fucked over consistently.
And now we're slowly, I think, entering an era
where people are beginning to make sense of who the perpetrators are.
And now it's being more like, oh, right, yeah, unions.
Yes, good, help each other, live better together.
And now we're looking at, because I think a lot of it too,
is they think they were promised raises during the financial crisis.
And they're like, yo, we still have not fucking see like what what happened there right like y'all got bailed out and nothing has happened nothing has improved for the workers and the
amount that they've moved on the contract is like they said something like two percent of the
contract has been negotiated right and only there's 98 and there's just been a lot of foot dragging.
So yeah, I mean, God,
do what you got to do.
Yeah, speak out, stand up.
You're working for them.
It's a partnership,
not you're indebted to them for your job.
Yeah, yeah.
But sadly, I think still companies all look at their employees like that, right?
It's just sort of like,
yes, how much can I get out of you?
Well, it's time for a fucking change.
Like, go GM workers.
I support you.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I mean, you know, just back to the more general like zeitgeist vibe of the country, you know there's a change when CEOs are actually changing to be more worker-friendly
and employee-friendly, at least in what they're saying. Jamie Dimon and a group of CEOs are
basically challenging other CEOs to change the governing principle of corporate America to be less profit and
share price focused and more holistically focused.
This is a story that was covered in the New York Times and the New Yorker, the fact that
CEOs are doing this.
And I don't necessarily trust it as far as I can spit, but it definitely, at least this change to the zeitgeist is being observed by them.
You know, they're not going to say that they're, they're not going to like change the core principle of their operating procedure unless they're really think it endangers their future profits to not do that.
Yeah. Jamie Dimon as the head of JP Morgan Chase. He's probably seeing some things in the forecasts
that might suggest that you're dealing with a consumer base who you're trying to get to buy
more shit, but realizing their wages are stagnant and they're like the ability to accumulate wealth is not,
is nearly impossible for younger generations.
So yeah,
like at a certain point,
I feel like just in terms of a business,
the,
you need to begin to pivot,
but I don't know if that's again,
Jamie diamond said some other thing earlier this year,
but I was like,
really Jamie diamond.
But again,
talk is nice,
but I'm curious to see like what functionally
that actually means.
Like, are they going to incentivize?
I don't know.
What are we doing here?
What's really good, Jamie?
I would see like they're testing it.
Like, can we get away with just saying good shit
and will they be quiet?
I'm sure.
It'll buy you two months.
Yeah.
And then they're slowly going to have to accept it
because suppressing it is not going to work anymore. It's just, we're at a phase where people
are going into adulthood with debt from school. You can't buy a house. You can't do anything.
That's what it was. I think is what Jamie Dimon was talking about where he was like,
they got it. We got to deal with their debt or they're not going to be able to buy stuff that
we sell essentially. It's true.
But I guess that's more of just a very logical thing of like, look, y'all, if they need money in their pockets to give back to us, then we need to sort of cancel some of this debt out.
Yeah. The New York Times piece that I read these CEOs talking about was kind of giving a general
history about how this is the most that any CEOs and business leaders have most attention they've
paid to workers since the 70s. And they explained the way that it got this way was during the 80s,
a bunch of CEOs, I had always heard the term corporate raiders, but apparently there were
these hostile takeovers where CEOs would come in and basically say, this current CEO is giving away too many benefits, and we're going to strip it down to the bare
minimum.
And so CEOs became afraid of having hostile takeovers of their companies.
So the organizing principle of CEOs became to make it as shrewdly profit-driven as possible.
And that's sort of the period period we we're still in up
until right now but the new yorker piece that it was a part of uh started off looking at this like
corporate retreat where like all these people it's the thing from the end of mad men if you've seen
that where like everybody's meditating but they're all like fortune 500 ceos and, but they're all Fortune 500 CEOs and shit.
It's like this blending of New Age wisdom and shit and the corporate.
And predatory capitalism.
Yeah, predatory capitalism.
Jesus.
But yeah, it's this exclusive place, like corporate retreat or something.
I think, I can't remember the show.
Tobias is on it.
He has a hook. Arrested Development.
Arrested Development. I think they had something like
that too where the dad tried to
do a new age cult retreat out
on the border
of Mexico with his twin.
So kind of poking fun at it. The sweat lodge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was great.
Oh man, it's funny. Again, I think
like you're saying, right? we're hopefully slowly getting into an era
where people are looking upward class-wise as an explanation for why they have little
rather than down or to the margins of society.
And I think that's why now, I think maybe that's the heat CEOs are feeling.
It's like, some guy said I evil right just for being a billionaire it's really weird i i worked hard
for this money right and not understanding it's like i guess numerically now more and more like
these people are going to be viewed as like the real fucking pariahs or at least to a group of
people who are engaged enough in understanding like the nuances of our economy and things like that.
But maybe that's the thing.
They're also trying to do a little PR spin because if I was at that level, you would
think, one of the pitchforks come out.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And then did I say enough that maybe I can...
They'll remember that I was one of the good billionaires that was kind of on their side,
but also took everything they had.
I don't know.
Yeah.
For sure, the thing that's weird
is not that these CEOs are having a crisis of conscience.
It's the 30 years that preceded it
where CEOs were just raiding
and mistreating their workers
to increase their share prices.
But it's still, you know, at least progress from within.
Or it can look like progress from within.
Yeah, well, then, look, we've got a, you know, maybe an election.
An election can begin some kind of shift there.
Right.
All right, let's speak briefly about Justice Kavanaugh, Brett.
Yeah. What a guy.
What a guy. So the New York Times dropped a new report that involves another incident that had been brought to the attention of the FBI and kind of totally discarded.
Yeah, not publicly known.
I mean, so during his confirmation, right, Christine Blasey Ford's testimony was the focal point of sort of like, oh, this is the example of why Brett Kavanaugh should probably not be anywhere near a court.
Yes.
Unless he's in the defendant's seat.
And there, I think once that happened, I remember the weekend before, then there was another allegation that came out from this woman, Deborah Ramirez.
Right.
And the FBI was like, all right, well, hold on.
Hold on a second.
Fine.
We'll look into this for a couple days.
And then we'll say we're, quote unquote, investigating so we can give cover to Jeff Flake and Susan Collins, who's going to get this fucking guy through.
Right.
Because that's really the end game everyone was looking for.
So that was sort of like how things had left or ended but now we're finding out that there was another classmate of brett kavanaugh's this guy uh went
through chris coons and the fbi to be like at a party at yale he put his genitals like thrusted
his genitals into the hand of a passed out uh well another classmate. Miles, now what you are
missing, what you're leaving out is
that his friends pushed his genitals
into her hand.
Who says that?
That's the story actually, but that's the thing that
conservatives are seizing on and they're like
so he was the victim because they
pushed his genitals. He was this
unwilling person.
He was just at a party
as one does at yale yeah right you just do it and how dare they grab his penis and force it into
another hand just were they really so we're i i know i was joking earlier when we were talking
about it about being like i feel like i think they need to find out who those guys were yeah
that's what ben Shapiro was saying.
He was like, I mean, it's I mean, that's basically sexual assault on on their part.
It's just a bad faith.
How the fuck do you make Brett Kavanaugh a victim?
Like, just by hearing it back, you know, actually, Brett Kavanaugh has been the victim this whole time.
Yeah, I guess that's how the logic works of that party.
I want to know if his dick was hard in the guy's hand.
That's a good question good you'll never know yeah sick because justice kavanaugh is a he's a good stand up standing catholic penis
was hard he enjoyed it right that's no the i mean this whole thing right it's just bringing
back to light how fucked up that whole confirmation process was because it was clear to fucking anybody who wasn't so
gassed up on GOP propaganda that Brett Kavanaugh did not even have the fucking temperament to be
a fucking toll booth operator. Like he was just, he was very upset, very angry. Everyone knew he
was lying under oath. He unequivocally said, I have never blacked out. Like I don't black out
ever. He was Mr. Blackout during high school and college right everyone were like no that's not right
change the definition of a devil's triangle right that's how fucked up it's a drinking game
where do you two guys have sex with a woman
anyway then again and so now i think because of that too oh another thing is i think the doj gave
like some in just like one of the highest recognition like awards to the team of lawyers
who got his confirmation through well done on shady work boys well done and if you look at
too like how the fbi did pretty much nothing they said on their hands now you know a lot of uh dems
and especially uh 2020 candidates are like we need to impeach Justice Kavanaugh.
We need to have an investigation into what the fuck that investigation was because it was not an investigation.
And it's kind of bringing this whole thing back.
But I think when you look at just the mechanics of it, I know there are a lot of people calling for his impeachment.
I think he absolutely needs to be removed from being a Supreme Court justice or probably just judge in general. But it's the same thing as with the president, right? Like the impeachment for removing a Supreme Court justice is it'll go to the House. If it gets up to the House, then it's off to the Senate for the trial. And then they need a two thirds majority to remove him. But the numbers aren't there for something like that.
Yeah, he's not going anywhere.
Isn't Mrs. Ford still in hiding because of death threats?
I believe so.
Yeah, I don't think things have improved much.
Out of all of that, that just enrages me even more.
Yeah, it's like watching old history where the bad guys win and you're just like, God, that must have been so brutal.
It's happening in front of us now.
It's just beyond words for me that this woman obviously put herself on the line in front of the entire country, detailing her sexual assault.
And yet the bad guy wins and she's in hiding because people want to murder her
for speaking what the fuck is this country if you can't talk right like number one amendment
i just oh i get i'm so mad about that yeah no i mean and again i think too and the people who are
rah-rah-ing it from the sidelines are the people who like just want the kind of supreme court
justice that will slowly dismantle the federal government, essentially, or like take away a lot of programs that support people because, you know, you have
all your fucking your Koch brother type people like, you know, working to get these kinds of
Supreme Court justices in to help these major decisions that fundamentally change the laws in
this country to go in their favor. And again, I mean, look, if it can help motivate people to vote for a Democrat in 2020, then
sure, you can talk about this.
But I think it's hard to figure out how this could possibly happen because historically
it's just been very, very difficult.
And I'm not sure if it has like a Supreme Court justice been removed, maybe in like
the 1800s or something yeah they tried to impeach a supreme court justice
because uh he was like blatantly like weighing in on partisan stuff but even then like it ended up
not happening i think vox was writing that you could remove a judge from office office without
resorting to impeachment uh or driving them out to the woods and yelling
at them to go home like in Harry and the Hendersons.
Apparently, it says that a judge shall hold their offices during good behavior.
Right.
And they think that the term good behavior would have been understood to have legal implications
at the time.
Congress could impeach over treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors,
but also good behavior.
Right, meaning that there are many other things,
because they're pointing to other judges who have been stripped of their bench duties
from taking bribes or other things like that.
Right.
But what's funny is like that paper about good behavior
was written by these two law professors
who you're like, oh, hell yeah, man.
He's like progressive, like legal scholars looking into it.
One of them was a law clerk to Clarence Thomas.
And the other was just a frequent contributor,
like libertarian conservative think tank, like op-ed writer.
So it's funny because even though you'd think this was like laying the groundwork for a liberal victory like this was
just another this was from the right coming from the right of even examining the constitution
understanding like oh is that you know is is that possible well because the right is the insurgency
like they've like had an insurgent mentality because they have, you know, a far smaller base of voters.
So there they have to use just horrible trickery and, you know, just conniving shit like this.
And it's good that more liberal institutions are even like thinking about stuff like this, about using things like this.
But the Democratic Party is legs way behind on this
shit like they won't even impeach the president when he committed high crimes and felonies
in a report his own executive branch ordered like so are they going to use this very uh kind of
circuitous route to try and get kavanaugh out of office. I doubt it.
I don't know why the Democrats are so hesitant on making change in progression, because last time I
would really say the 60s with the civil rights, like we kind of threw shit out the window and
just did it. And it was for the better. Why are we so complacent on holding it how it is? We're
not going to get anywhere, especially when
the right wants to play dirty. Yeah. Well, I think you have less and less people who are,
you know, I mean, like they say, politics, politics. But there I think there are even
less people who are in office now who actually care fundamentally about like the well-being of
the country or the democracy or anything. It's like it's a job. I happen to be like a really savvy business person in my part of the specific state.
Other people said, like, I could probably do this politics thing.
I will, you know, like so there's I don't know.
I mean, it's just it's really difficult to watch, like when you see all of these things happening just in broad daylight.
But one thing we've seen is many of the leadership or the leaders on the Democratic sides of things just fear a boat that is rocked too hard is going to throw everybody off because they are not – I guess there's no belief that some like real meaningful change is actually very – could energize many people rather than like the well-funded minority groups like a minority of wealthy people or other stakeholders who just want to, you know, fund messages that
are counter to that to kind of obscure the narrative.
Right.
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And we've talked about how Netflix lost friends or is going to lose friends.
And The Office fairly soon.
Really, really.
So they needed a win.
They needed something.
Yeah.
And it may have come.
Yeah.
The answer has come in the form of Seinfeld.
In a way, I think how no one cheered right after that shows that yeah okay that makes sense
i mean it's a good show people like watching i remember when it first went to hulu that was a
big deal right but then i'm not sure what those numbers are when you think about the actual the
amount of like man hours people are spending watching friends in the office on netflix
yeah gonna make up for it?
That seems like a big weight because when it first went to Hulu,
Hulu was kind of crap.
Yeah.
No one really cared for Hulu.
It was a hook for Hulu.
Yeah.
Right.
Now it's going to Netflix.
The weights are changing.
Yeah.
Right.
The one thing that I was impressed with is that this will be the first time
that all 180 episodes will be on one service
globally and in 4k now i don't know if i'd i'm not sure i need to see seinfeld in 4k
oh you gotta see it and it's full glory yeah beautiful yeah i feel like sometimes it's like
when things are up res like that i'm a little bit like this doesn't have to be like that right
we could have gone we could have stopped it at like 720 yeah you know res like that, I'm a little bit like, this doesn't have to be like that. I was, we could have gone,
we could have stopped it at like seven 20.
Yeah.
You know,
don't need to go that far,
but there was a,
it's odd that even the bit,
there wasn't much of a bidding war,
like the way Sony,
who was pitching it to other streamers,
they were kind of just sort of like,
we don't have an asking price,
but we just want something like that shows that you treat it in like,
or view it similarly to a friends or a the
office in terms of their bids so i guess it's like 130 a year yeah 30 million a year i think
with streaming services it's definitely younger audiences because we're much more quick to cut
the cable like i don't have cable i I have Hulu and Netflix and YouTube.
YouTube's free.
Well, the premium.
I'm not going to pay for the commercials.
You're like, no, there's some cool stuff on that YouTube, man.
Dog videos.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
One of my favorite channels.
Yeah.
So with Office and Friends, those get quoted all day long still,
where Seinfeld,
like I told you guys, I've never really watched a full episode.
Yeah.
Were you a fan of Friends and The Office before they became like streaming phenomenon?
Definitely Friends.
The Office is when it was on, but I think that's just like my personal schedule.
Yeah. And I can turn that on and like still kind that's just my personal schedule. Yeah.
And I can turn that on and still kind of laugh with it and do something else.
I feel like I've watched The Office too much where I can –
I'll basically say the words along with the episode.
Yeah.
And I'm no longer being entertained.
I'm doing some kind of memory recall exercise of a show that I like.
Right.
Which I've had to start distancing myself, wean myself off the office.
In the brief DVD period, I didn't give a shit about Friends DVDs, but I did buy Seinfeld
DVDs.
Those are collectors.
Yeah, see, that was the thing.
I think there was this attitude maybe for us elderly millennials too, that Seinfeld
felt like an important thing in the 90s.
So when the whole DVD thing was happening, I felt like a lot of the DVDs I bought were – again, it wasn't about like watching them.
It was about manifesting your tastes on a shelf.
Right.
And being like, and that is who I am.
Yeah.
Okay?
City of God, The Office Season 4.
Had it.
Had it.
The Professional.
Yeah. And The Rock. rock sorry i'm canceled but you know that was kind of the i think the attitude and now that like we're in the post dvd world
that things are changing seinfeld's definitely like quotable and they're like funny like concepts
in the show that i could see like being memeable and stuff like that. I do think there's something to the fact
that Jerry and George are having sex all the time
and they're these ugly middle-aged guys.
Oh, come on.
You too can have sex.
Yeah, I feel like that might jump out to people,
to young people as being like, really?
Yeah, well, yeah.
George, especially at times, you couldn't believe what those moments were like where he was being charming.
Right.
But I guess watching Curb Your Enthusiasm, I get Larry David's charm and knowing that that's just supposed to be Larry David.
Right.
Like not actually seeing full episodes or really knowing much of it.
There's still stuff I know, like the Soup Nazi,
and then I think there was an episode where,
what's her name, Diane in the show?
Elaine.
Elaine.
See, this is how that...
Sam and Diane.
Yeah.
I think she was trying to go to Sam.
That is basically cheers to younger millennials.
It might as well be.
But she wanted to start a store
where it was just selling muffin tops.
And like 12-year-old me,
like mind fucking blown.
That's like, of course,
no one eats the bottoms.
Right.
Yeah, muffin tops.
Wait, no one?
Oh, are you that kind of person?
Like it resonated where you're like,
of course no one would dare
to eat the bottom part.
I'd rather not say I'm there.
Okay, yeah.
And that's your information
to keep to yourself.
Yeah, but that's funny.
You were saying that you would watch The Simpsons
and then Seinfeld would come on
and that was your cue to leave,
stop watching at the end, after school.
Pretty much, yeah.
So Seinfeld was essentially your MASH.
That's what MASH was to me when I was a kid.
Oh, right, right.
You don't love MASH?
No. Oh my God. I love the movie. That's funny that you like you're like i've never seen this and like but
you don't like mash i don't love mash like that shit was serious and funny and i'd totally fuck
hawkeye okay how did you get into you still could i's still around. He has a podcast. Very funny and charming. Mr. Hawkeye.
Sir Hawkeye.
My dad was in the military, and my mom thought cutting cable in the summer would make us go outside.
Oh, hell no.
I watched Bonanza.
I watched MASH.
I watched all the oldies.
Nice.
So, yeah, that show's great.
Try that.
It's funny because in my mind, I would be dozing off to the theme song of MASH.
Because in LA, it came on after the 10 o'clock news a lot of times on Fox 11.
Okay.
Shout out to John Beard.
Who also was frequently in Arrested Development.
I think I fucked up on Arrested Development.
Tobias is the never nude, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Because the hook hand guy is... You're talking about Buster. Yeah. Buster. That's okay. nude, right? Yeah. Yes. Okay. Because the hook hand guy is.
You're talking about Buster.
Yeah.
Buster.
That's okay.
No, no.
Tony, you're right.
Okay.
The theme song to MASH is Suicide is Painless.
Yeah.
What a fucking, that's dark, man.
I think you can actually go on a hike here in LA and they still have like some of the
prop stuff up.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Me and my roommate keep talking about doing it, but it's like pretty far north towards like Malibu and everything.
Right, right.
But they still have like where the helicopter takes off in the very last episode.
And I really want to do it just because that out of anything seems really cool to me.
So what New Zealand is to Lord of the Rings fans, the Santa Monica Mountains.
Yes.
As long as it's not on fire,
I'm totally there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The season is upon us.
That is funny that that was shot
in the Santa Monica Mountains
because it was supposed to be about Vietnam,
but it was actually set during the Korean War
because you couldn't say something about Vietnam.
But it definitely looks like
neither of those countries, really.
It's like dry shrubbery and shit.
Like, totally Southern California.
Well, shit.
We'll see.
All right, you think it'll be a hit?
You think it'll be a office friends level hit?
No.
I don't think, because Seinfeld's time
has come and gone in a way,
and I don't think there's going to be a revival.
Right.
You know what I mean?
I think the revival Seinfeld had was on DVD.
Like, it went off the air.
And then people, like, sat on it a little bit.
The DVDs came out.
They were like, oh, shit.
I can get the fucking Puffy shirt deluxe edition box set.
Right.
Or whatever.
And then it died off.
And it came back on Hulu.
Some people were like, cool.
Yeah.
But then it's these other shows.
I don't know.
I mean, we'll see what the watch times.
I'm sure Netflix will either share or not share
how intense the watch times are.
I'm just talking more about like the memeing
and like the fact that The Office became like
the comedy show that was like part of.
Right.
Well, I guess the difference is like with The Office,
especially like a lot of people
who make content or even younger people who are from the meme era they were like coming they were
watching the office right that's already sort of hardwired into their sort of sensibility right
that happened like where seinfeld like you probably have to be in your 30s 40s to be like
yo fuck well i focus i felt heavy right and then at that point are there enough people I don't know
yeah we'll see maybe it'll be like the
Gen Z the office where like
even younger people will be super into
it maybe they'll be into mash right
hell yeah my kids will be
bring it back yeah
well I think the two
ladies from the office
Jenna Fisher and the
lady Angela Kinsey yeah they just started a podcast.
So people are still really into this
shit. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Well, I guess Jerry Seinfeld's doing
comic and Carr's getting coffee.
That's what a lot of people thought.
One of the reasons why I went to Netflix too, because
he was already doing business with them.
That was a $100 million deal.
He has not.
For comedians and Carr's fucking wasting your fucking time.
Holy shit.
It doesn't even look like good coffee.
Sorry.
Oh, come on.
The episode I've seen of that show sucks.
All right.
Let's talk about Google.
A former Google employee named Laura Nolan, who was
an engineer who worked on
Project Maven,
which is their joint venture with the Pentagon.
Basically, she's
saying autonomous weapons
are going to... Could bring about
terrible disastrous consequences.
Have some unintended... Yeah.
She was like briefing fucking
UN diplomats that diplomats
in like geneva new york kind of saying because uh you know project maven was a thing like over
3 000 google employees signed on to to be like yo knock this fucking shit off we want nothing
to do like the work we're doing on like you know machine learning to be helping killing robots identify humans better like that's
so they let that they let that deal you know collapse or whatever they didn't renew it or
whatever so they're no longer involved but she's been really out there campaigning by saying like
this is going like just from our standpoint there's a lot of things that could go wrong
when you have a ton of you know uh basically killer robots on autopilot just flying around right that's
terrifying this is actually the first that i'm hearing of it and in my mind i just keep thinking
back like the first law of robotics was do no harm to humans or is that computer robotic yeah i think
it was the robotics yeah um but that's terrifying i mean i wonder what isaac asimov would say if he
did see this.
He'd be like, what the fuck are you guys doing?
Right.
I think his vision of the future was like, well, they wouldn't be so stupid as to do something like this.
Right.
Like just create hunter-killer drones.
Because the thing she's also pointing out, she's like, look, yes, obviously, like the target recognition thing is going to get more and more sophisticated by discerning between like someone maybe holding a gun or versus, you know, a box or an inanimate object.
But context is still a huge piece that's missing from these things.
So she she cites an example, says, quote, You could have a scenario where autonomous weapons that have been sent out to do a job confront unexpected radar signals in an area they are searching. There could be weather that was not factored into its software or they come across a group of armed men who appear to be insurgent enemies but are in fact out with guns hunting for food. or common sense that the human touch has. Because right now, drones are operated by crews like human beings and, you know, that
are using some of this AI to help them.
But it's not the decision making is still falling to like a human operator.
And they're saying that the other scary thing about these autonomous war systems is that
you can only really test them by deploying them in a real combat zone.
And she speculates, quote, maybe that's happening with the Russians at present in Syria.
Who knows?
It's going to get to be like where Amazon delivers your package via drone and then makes a hit on its way back.
Right.
Just to get the most out of it.
Yeah.
Really utilize the technology for the benefit of bad people.
Here's a new docking station for your womanizer.
I also have to go put down an uprising in a city.
I also have to go put down an uprising in a city.
And when you look also, though, at the other weapons that are already being developed by like just the U.S., Russia, they're already on this wave like into it.
There's the AN-2 Anaconda gunboat, which is the U.S. Navy's completely autonomous warcraft equipped with artificial intelligence capability.
What basically is going to do, quote, loiter in an area for long periods of time without human intervention
so it's like a sentry boat
that's like hovering in the air
no no no it's a gun but it's a boat but
like it's just sort of being like it's on autopilot
it'll blast out whatever the fuck it has
just off in the distance just waiting for
waiting for you to fuck up
Russia has a tank that doesn't sound unnerving
Russia has a tank that is unmanned and autonomous.
Right.
There's another one.
The reason that she speculated
that maybe Russia is already deploying these in Syria
is that at the UN,
they opposed any treaty,
let alone ban on these types of weapons.
Right.
Yeah, they're probably already out there
killing people with these.
Yeah, we're also, God, how many fucking existential threats do we have to fucking face right now?
It's like fucking global warming.
Now we're like, the war toys might fucking kill us all too.
Yeah.
At the same time, I feel like there were.
There's fucking white claw shortages.
It's not that good.
We're fine.
I'm personally already terrified
of my Roomba. Like, that
shit sucks up shoelaces left
and right. I just, I can't. Oh, like with
you with your shoe, like, you have your shoelace untied
and you're like, oh, fuck, my Roomba got me. Yeah, it just
eats it and goes on its way. Now, just
put a gun on it, you know?
Yes. You and my three-year-old
both can't stand
the Roomba. there's something that's inherently
inherently terrifying about it wait for real yeah yeah he doesn't trust it oh not at all can't trust
it yeah uh and anytime it's on he like doesn't want to be around and when i'm telling him like
oh you don't have to worry it's fine like it Like it's our friend. I only like half believe it. Like I'm like,
maybe like I just have too many,
like my like sense of what's normal is so calcified that I'm not terrified of
this.
And I should be like this robot that roams my house.
It knows the dimensions of your house.
Yeah.
No,
cannot be trusted.
And then is that sent to some kind of Skynet?
I don't know, actually.
It can't be.
I mean, could you imagine?
Because then you'd essentially have mapped out
the interiors of like people's homes.
Yeah.
For the gun boats.
That should already be public record
with blueprints, right?
Oh God, you're right.
When does it stop?
Kim, it's been a pleasure having you
on the dailies
like this
very fun
thank you
where can people
find you
follow you
let's remind them
support you
yes
well
to restate
I'm on
Instagram and Twitter
the double underscore
red dot
and
recently
I made the very
bold and courageous
step to say
I want to try to do
my comic full time.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Woo.
Yeah.
So.
Push your boat out there.
Yeah.
My atomic.
Your autonomous gun.
Sea warfare boat.
Womanizer boat.
The Womanizer 9000.
Yeah.
So if you want to support that project, follow me on Patreon.
I draw my nudes there so there is benefits
right great and i think also too uh just if you've never read her comic you're gonna love it yes it's
fucking it's amazing right now it's poignant it oftentimes nudges up against the things we talk
about i remember i think somebody sent me the pineapple pizza topping one when we had a furious debate about pineapple pizza.
Not to mention I see your work on Reddit a lot, too.
And the good parts.
You're just making me feel a little happy.
Thank you.
Well, shit.
I mean, I feel like at least to people who might be like Internet humor literate, they've probably might even without knowing maybe the title of your work.
I would wager they're familiar with your work.
That's the coolest shit since I've started it.
Cause I follow tons of online artists already,
but getting to interact with them and then say like,
Oh,
I saw this comic of yours.
I love it.
I'm like,
Oh my God,
I've loved you since 10th grade.
Right,
right,
right.
Yeah.
That's been the really neat part.
Well,
and again,
please,
I,
yeah,
I think it's always important to,
you know,
support artists out there.
And I think it's great that you want to take it to the next level.
Yeah, Main Street.
And then we'll be asking you to draw us.
Although that's how it all started.
I remember when you drew Jack.
With nipples.
With nipples.
Way high-ass nipples.
Shipples.
It's high art.
Yes.
High art.
High nipples.
Is there a tweet or other act of social media you've been enjoying?
Yes.
I actually have a tweet from a fellow comic artist on Twitter that had me in stitches.
It's from at TinySnickComics, and it goes,
I touched the damn bill.
Or, excuse me, let me start this over.
Bernie, I wrote the damn bill.
Pete, I smelled the damn bill.
Booker, I saw the damn bill.
Warren, I touched the damn bill.
Biden, I played my record player to the damn bill.
Beto, I wrote the fuck bill.
I wrote the fuck bill.
I wrote the fuck bill, bro.
And there's more, but it's just on point from last week's debate.
Put your record players on.
Yeah.
So your babies hear words.
What was the question about?
Slavery?
Miles, where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
There's a few tweets that I like.
Uh,
one is from Molly Lambert who was just retweeting another tweet.
Um,
she just said,
this is the funniest thing to me.
And it was from another person who tweeted from Tash Dodick,
um,
in memoriam,
Joe Keery's immaculate hair.
Now,
Joe Keery is the dude who plays Steve on stranger things.
And if you remember,
he has a head of hair on him.
But this evolution of hair is a fucking crime.
Wait, what is he from?
Stranger Things.
Oh, shit.
He had like that huge mane of hair.
Oh, my bad.
Oh, shit.
It blew it up.
Yeah, so there's original.
Oh, yeah.
And then now he's rocking like a fucking weird Noel Gallagher bowl cut.
Did he have a bad breakup?
I don't know, man.
That hair was for a man who is follicly challenged.
Bruh, I should fight you.
I should fuck you up.
Oh, man.
Like, I know the pain because I just chopped six inches of hair off because it's so much
to maintain and it felt heavy.
But at least I think my hair looks good.
That just, oh, man.
No, this is a terrible decision.
Yeah.
Terrible decision.
That's a problem, man.
That's a fucking, I mean, we can talk about crimes against humanity.
There we go.
One right there.
Another one is from Evo Driscoll at NoMoneyNoHoney with U's.
So not H-O or M-O.
It says, a Lunchable is a charcuterie
if you're not a fucking classist.
Daniel Kibblesmith tweeted,
you're killing me, Smalls.
Please, Smalls, I'm your friend.
Stop, you're not a murderer.
Oh, God, Smalls.
Oh, God, Smalls, I don't want to die.
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as well as the song we ride out on.
Miles, what's that going to be today? This ride out on miles what's that gonna be today this
is a track from i don't i'm not familiar this artist i was just hearing it and i got nostalgic
because it kind of reminded like drum and bass jungle but like the kind of trappy music and
uh very 90s edm uh vocalist on it uh and this is from angelica Best and it's called Sail to the Sun.
And yeah,
I don't know.
It got me nostalgic. It made me feel like I was listening
to electronic music from the
mid-90s but updated.
Early 90s, rather. I don't want to misspeak
for any EDM historians out there.
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